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/mkg/ - Topre and IBM Fags Unite Edition

>Buyer's template:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Use the buyer's template
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Keyset wiki
http://keypuller.com

Previous thread >>58786916

>> No.58815799
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58815799

>>58815779
EnjoyPBT Cyrillic Kit 3 is on the way
>mfw

>> No.58815827
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58815827

IN

>> No.58815831
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58815831

DAILY REMINDER :^)

>> No.58815863

>>58815831
I have a 2 year old G502 and the braiding is fraying a lot.
Makes me think that a regular rubber sleeve is more durable. It definitely looks nicer.

>> No.58815891
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>>58815827
>LOOK AT MY FUCKING COOL GUN GUYZ XCDDDDDDDD

>> No.58815903
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58815903

:^)

>> No.58815976

>>58815891
>cool
>mosin
unless it's finnish, it's shit

>> No.58816001

>>58815891
that's a pretty cheap gun m9

>> No.58816568
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58816568

>>58815903
noice. what year is that from?

>> No.58817129

Anyone have the Anne Pro? How do you like it?

>> No.58817294
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58817294

Why are people paying real money for zealencios when GMK QMXes are a thing?

>> No.58817309

>>58817294
Can't use QMX clips on a plate mount board.

>> No.58817324

>>58817309
So why not just buy a PCB mount keyboard so you have something to use them on?

>> No.58817340

>>58817324
or just use a plate and use landing pads instead

>> No.58817342

>>58817324
because pcb mount is shit

>> No.58817350

>>58817324
PCB mount is shit, and few boards nowadays use it.

>> No.58817383
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58817383

>>58815779
can somebody please recommend some nice quality, heavy keycaps for my 60% pok3r? the ones that came with this board feel too light

>> No.58817385
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58817385

good night /mkg/

>> No.58817393

>>58817383
Get some thick cherry profile PBTs. Or get an SA set.

>> No.58817400

>>58817383
read the pastebins in the OP

>> No.58817407

>>58817383
https://rama.works/store/rama-ss-o-liquid-moon-kc-mx-le
https://rama.works/store/rama-ss-o-liquid-black-kc-mx-le
https://rama.works/store/rama-al-w-red-anodized-kc-mx

>> No.58817419
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58817419

>>58817383
get a micro switch board with triple shot keycaps then 3D print some adapters

>> No.58817421

>>58817393
thanks for the abvdice

>>58817400
oh ok are we friends now can be

>>58817407
this is good let me trap my on browser patches clicking right now

>>58817419
no

>> No.58817497

>>58817421
shit nigga lrn2 type

>> No.58817547

>>58817497
i try hard but see i need the caps to cap my kes i haven not any caprsor now

>> No.58817563
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58817563

I got my numpad so now its time to build a case

>> No.58817639

>>58817419
Holy shit that cap is thicc. It's almost solid.

>> No.58817776
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58817776

Thoughts on this? Never messed around with a mech keyboard, but my 'ol Logitech is on it's last legs so I thought I'd try something new.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LXD7TP9/ref=aw_wl_ov_dp_1_4?colid=20PMCOQAX5BQE&coliid=I2TMIAW0B9N5N2&vs=1

On a scale from 1 to dumpster fire, how garbage is it?

>> No.58817806

>>58817776
I'd take the tomoko since it looks less edgy, but if you want a keyboard with a heavier switch then go for that red dragon

>> No.58817834

>>58817419
How thicc is too thicc? Are there any completely filled keycaps?

>> No.58817858
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>>58817806
Never noticed the tomoko before. Thanks.

>> No.58817875

>>58817834
not for cherry since you wouldn't be able to press down the key

>> No.58817934
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58817934

Damn so now Originative has pic related by gmk. I was going to get an enjoypbt set but with proxy fees and shipping it will be almost $100. Should I spring for the gmk set? I have only ever had pbt sets on my Leopold and I like the gateron blanks I have on it now. But that GMK set is clean as fuck.

>> No.58817958
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58817958

Just bought this, any thoughts?

>> No.58817969

>>58817958
why

>> No.58817982

>>58817969
Not many small keyboards with mx silvers

>> No.58817991

>>58817958
you got two keyboards for the price of one

>> No.58817992
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>>58817958
Get an ergodox eventually.

>> No.58817994

>>58817982
fair enough

i was just thinking what's the point of getting a split keyboard to increase ergonomics if you're still gonna use the unergonomic standard staggering

>> No.58817999

>>58817563
>numpad on left
>60% w/ arrow keys

This is my fetish.

>> No.58818007

>>58817991
Price isn't that much of a issue for me

>> No.58818023
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>>58817934
lol it's 100 overpriced if you are getting the blank set. pic related was only 100 bucks

>> No.58818041

>>58818023
What kind of keyboard is that? Looks slick

>> No.58818059

>>58818041
that's not a keyboard, that is the tray gmk sends their keycaps in

>> No.58818121

Can I line the insides of my keycaps with an oil-based clay that won't dry out to make them heavier?

>> No.58818138

>>58818121
Just use lighter springs nigga.

>> No.58818140

>>58818121
you can, though why would you do that?

>> No.58818152

>>58818023
I have not seen any gmk sets go for $100 in a while. Seems they know they can get away with charging more or the people doing the runs are just gouging.

>> No.58818173
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58818173

>>58818152
they used to be under 100. I know carbon was another $100 set, but that was only because it sold over 1000 units

>> No.58818186

>>58818138
>>58818140
I dunno, as an experiment, to increase their heft, see if that makes them feel better. Anons above are talking about spending $75+ on keycaps just because they were made with a few extra grams of plastic, I should be able to achieve the same 'hefty' effect with less than a dollar of clay

>> No.58818218

>>58818186
You might increase the weight of a cap by a gram, give or take, if you stuff it with clay. The side effects include getting that shit everywhere, including possibly the inside of the switch. If you want to be a retard, go right ahead.

>Anons above are talking about spending $75+ on keycaps just because they were made with a few extra grams of plastic

Because the question "what are some heavier keycaps?" was asked. So it was answered. That and a thick PBT set is $30.

>> No.58818219

Just bought a Topre board. Hopefully it lives up to they hype.

>> No.58818226

>>58818186
Keycaps packed with clay would probably feel and sound awful.

>> No.58818248
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58818248

>>58818186
>spending $75+ on keycaps just because they were made with a few extra grams of plastic
npkc has thicc keycaps sets for 30-40 bucks on aliexpress. If you don't trust the chinks then there is a set on massdrop right now

>> No.58818254

>>58818218
>>58818226
Yeah, they probably would feel awful, just wanted to sound it out

>> No.58818345
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>>58817419
>>58817834
TOO THICC TOO THICC!!!!!

>> No.58818362
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.58818371
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58818371

>Budget
200 USD
>Location (continent at least)
US
>Preferred switch type
Topre (is it a meme?)
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
60/80%
>Backlight
RGB?
>Previous/current keyboards
1984 Model-M
/Cheap MagicForce MX Blue
Mitsumi KPQ-E99YC

>> No.58818403

>>58818371
Import a HHKB from japan for $180. I dont know how much the shipping fees will be, but when I bought a keyboard from chyna it was 20 bucks

>> No.58818475
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58818475

>>58818345
we THICC now?

>> No.58818522

What's the most thug keyboard around? I need people to know I'm a gangsta when they step in my crib

>> No.58818664

Are Cherry keycap sets "standardized"?

Can I buy a Ducky keycap set and slap it onto my Steelseries keyboard? They have the same layout and dimensions etc

>> No.58818690

>>58818522
Old model m

>> No.58818698

>>58818664
Yes.

>> No.58818883

>>58818522
A Korean custom with kailh switches.

>> No.58819074

do side-symboled (or w.e its called) double shot transparents exist for backlighting

>> No.58819096

>>58819074
So transparent doubleshots only the print is on the front of the keycap? Not that I know of.

>> No.58819102

So are gateron keys the same shape/dimensions as gmk keys? I know they are both cherry profile but the tops of the gateron keys look more narrow.

>> No.58819104

>>58819096
right

dangit

>> No.58819165
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58819165

>>58817563
Excellent choice in chink caps.

>>58815891
Post your keyboard, friend.

>> No.58819202

>>58819165
You only own one keyboard and you have a pretty boring set of caps on it. We all know you just want to show off your guns. Why pretend otherwise?

>> No.58819218

Is switchtester.com a reliable site for getting keycaps?

>> No.58819298

>>58819165
i dig the collection, and I love the wood grips on the earlier models, but damn man, how often do you actually find yourself firing those? Like between the P99, PPX, and PPQ, how can you say "yep, I'm gonna fire this one today" when they're so similar? I plan to pick up a Walther or two (thinking PPQ in .45 and P99, maybe a P38 if I can find one) but I can't imagine owning that many. Its like the people with a safe full of glocks, wheres the fun in it?

>> No.58819335

>>58819298
>i can't imagine owning that many
>where's the fun in that
hey are you retarded?

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>>58815891
>>58819165
>this triggers the liberal

>> No.58819434
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58819434

good morning.

>> No.58819492

>>58819386
noice 870P m8, is that one of the surplus ones that are floating around?

>> No.58819533
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>>58819492
yes a local department traded a bunch of em into our shop around christmas time. got to pick a nice present out for myself. they have love marks from the cages in the back seats and stuff. we got about 25 of them i think, they went fast.

>> No.58819621

Is it possible to build a quiet mechanical keyboard? I mean quiet enough to type at a library

>> No.58819644

>>58819621
Any non-clicky board with rubber dampeners will be. o-rings, zealencios, QMX clips, etc.

>> No.58819801

Wrist Rests that aren't wood go.

>> No.58819906

Reminder to take your keyboard out of your bag when doing security checks at airports
I had my pok3r in a side pocket of the computer bag, and the security guy couldn't find how to take it out so they searched the whole bag before asking me. Wasted like 15 minutes. My fault I guess, didn't occur to me a keyboard counts as 'electronics'

>> No.58820079

>>58819906
>didn't occur to me a keyboard counts as 'electronics'
Are you retarded?

>> No.58820121

>>58820079
Well phone/laptop chargers are electronics too but you aren't required to take them out.

>> No.58820593
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58820593

>>58815799
ypa

>> No.58820656

I'm getting a g410 in the mail today. Ridicule me.

>I couldn't live with a keyboard that didn't match my g502

>> No.58820706
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58820706

>>58820656
>romer-g

Oh don't worry, I am ridiculing you

>> No.58820724

>>58820706
But I need to be AESTHETIC™

I'm trying to come up with an excuse to get a 60% keyboard, but travel isn't good enough because I like the keyboard on my t430.

>> No.58821239

>>58819801
Just use a towel

>> No.58821278

>>58817563
Tha's a custom build, isn't it?

Who left numpad isn't more common? I know that's what people are used to, but it just makes so much more sense.

>> No.58821918

What's the next new meme in keyboard industry? Or has the RGB meme still not gone out of style?

>> No.58821991

>>58821918
Floating keycaps or low-profile keycaps seem to be emerging new fads.

>> No.58822005

>>58821918
Do you mean custom keyboards or mainstream ones?

For custom the current meme is more weight and more bezel, for mainstream they're still RGBing everything because your keyboard needs to match your mouse, mousepad, headset, coffee mug, RAM, graphics card, motherboard, water-cooling lines, power cables and case.

>> No.58822170
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>>58821991
Floating keycaps isn't really big news, just a good way to cut costs on tooling, though ducky is doing some interesting things in terms of design, even though some of them are ugly as sin

>> No.58822474

>>58821991
floating design is nothing mainstream memboards have been doing since before I got into this meme 5 years ago

>> No.58823538

>had to disable ad block
>accidently turned it off
>saw the new ads hiro now uses
>they all recommend me gh60 PCBs, PBT keycaps, and topre clone keyboards.
I think I need to slow down a bit

>> No.58823570

About to get babby's first mech keyboard and was eyeing the cm masterkeys pro s with cherry blues. How bad of an idea is this? any better suggestions? i reeeeeally like mx blues. Oh and i need muh special meme nordic layout

>> No.58823631

>>58823570
The CM boards are a solid choice if you want RGB lighting and software customization.

>> No.58823641

There was a guy here with a numpad that looked like it was 3d printed, I was just wondering where you got it printed? It was in some weird shape too if that helps

>> No.58823690

>>58823641
He >>58822170 3D printed it himself so ask him for the .stl files

>> No.58823774

How bad are premium rubber domes?

Logitech prodigy is decently cheap and has the gay rainbow I need

>> No.58823783

say i were to have, theoretically, spilt something onto my keyboard, what is a decent solvent to un-stick the stuck keys?

>> No.58823843

>>58823783
Mix bleach and ammonia to create a super cleaner

>> No.58823871
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>>58823774
Most of these premium rubber domes cost more then a cheap mechanical keyboard. Just get a tomoko on amazon for 30 bucks

>> No.58823899

>>58823871
Do the legends wear down?

Logitech looks like they have good legends

>> No.58823912
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>>58819202
>you have enough hands to use more than one keyboard
>you only have enough hands to hold two guns
Well now which is it? /mkg/ argues in favor of having multiple keyboards but against having multiple guns. Do you want lots of things or fewer things? Be consistent please or you lose credibility! Also how can you justify the hypocrisy of making this off-topic post without posting your keyboard?

>>58819298
Because sometimes you feel like a nut. Of those three, the P99 would be my pick. PPQ is goat and PPX is who-cares tier but P99 is goatest.

>>58823783
Hot water. Obviously, unplug it and disassemble first. Unless you had a tall glass of adhesive you accidentally knocked over onto your keyboard, water will dissolve anything you'd be drinking.

>>58823843
Don't do this. I'm pretty sure this is a violation of global rule 3 as well, though I'm not the type of petty cunt to report it.

>> No.58823943
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58823943

Last day to get in on these vim themed gmk caps.
http://www.mechkeys.io/product/gmk-vimcaps

>> No.58823976

>>58823899
They both use laser etched legends if that's what your asking

>> No.58824004

>>58823976
I may just keep my duck one then

I'm just annoyed by how ugly the grey brown caps are on the ducky pbt

>> No.58824010

>decide to check on mech general
>hey guys wha--

And the attention whore is still posting his guns. Do you guys let him post just so the general wouldn't die?

>> No.58824022
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>>58823641
yes hello, I printed it with my 3D printer, hit me up later and I'll upload the .stl file for you on thingiverse or something

>> No.58824030

>>58824004
Looks like you got the old shit batch. I was worried the same would happen to me, but ducky said they fixed it and it looks like they did

>> No.58824040

>>58824010
this general is 99% attention whores
>oh em gee look at muh custom faggot keyboard without 50% of the keys
this is reddit tier general, it should be purged. the only discussion is about meaningless visual mods that only make the keyboard cringeworthy.

>> No.58824045

>>58824030
Fuck can I just return it

How much does a mechanical keyboards.com return end up costing?

>> No.58824063

>>58824045
It might be a lighting issue since the coating reflects light in some weird way. For example if I shine yellow light it looks brownish

>> No.58824087

>>58824040

Well, it's a general about keys which do different kinds of clicks and clacks. There's nothing to talk about.

>> No.58824092

>>58824010
exactly how is that different than anyone else attention whoring? dont let your fee fees get in the way of your objectivity

>> No.58824161

Anyone have experience with these 60% kits from AliExpress? I've been looking for a 60% keyboard with an aluminum case and gateron switches and this seems to be what I want for a solid price. Is it shit or nah?

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Customized-KC60-Full-Set-Aluminum-Case-Programmable-PCB-Steel-Plate-Switches-LED-For-60-Standard-Layout/32620290856.html

>> No.58824163

>>58817419
NUGH OOOOOUUGGGHH TOOOO THIIIGE

>> No.58824194

>>58817419
>3D print some adapters

That means tolerance trouble yo. Can you print with that level of detail without problems?

>> No.58824477
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58824477

How much am I gonna miss the Function Keys and Escape if I buy a 60%?

>> No.58824513

>>58824477
escape is there, it's in place of `~

>> No.58824527

>>58824477
Function keys and ~ are there on a fn layer

>> No.58824574

>>58824513
>>58824527
I know, but am I gonna miss not having to use a layer?

>> No.58824584

>>58824574
I don't miss it but I can't speak for you senpai

>> No.58824648

>>58824477
if youre a gaymer you wont miss them.
if youre a programmer/actually know shit about IT you wouldnt even ask this question.

>> No.58824742

>>58824648
>if youre a programmer/actually know shit about IT you wouldnt even ask this question.

Yeah it would be a bitch for debugging, etc, but I'm not gonna program on it... I think...

>> No.58824838
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>>58820593
My body is ready. One question, what's the quality of the sub-legend like in comparison to the main legend?

>> No.58825153

where can I get a straight spacebar (6.25) wire for pcb mounted cherry stabs?

>> No.58825212

>>58817776
There's certainly better keyboards out there, but this certainly can't be beat for the price. Actually having NKRO over USB is a big plus, though I would either find replacement keycaps ASAP or spend the extra four bucks on the red-backlit model since it has double-shot keycaps.

>> No.58825374

Noob question here.
What do I have to do after assembling a GH60 to make it usable? I assume it is more than just plugging it in, but I am struggling to find information on that

>> No.58825387

>>58815827
That's a really nice photograph.

>> No.58825883
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58825883

Just started getting into mech keyboard modding. I'm looking for something retro-looking in either DSA or SA profile. Any suggestions? I'm looking to get something low-cost as I'm just starting out.

My current set is a beige/white set in standard cherry profile from Aliexpress. Want something in a more retro-looking profile/font.

>> No.58825923

>>58825374
You have to program the controller if it hasn't been done yet

>> No.58825935

>>58825883
SA retro

>> No.58826049

found these double shot Filco SA profile keycaps. Anyone know what material they are? PBT? ABS?

http://www.keyboardco.com/product/double_shot_filco_104_key_usa_keyset.asp#reviews

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>> No.58826095

>>58826049
I'd say ABS, going by pics. It's too shiny and smooth to be PBT, that's for sure.

>> No.58826114

>>58825935

Can't seem to find it for sale anywhere and the previous listings for used seem to have super-high prices.

>> No.58826157

>>58826049
There are only two SA profile is made by SP and there are only two PBT sets which can be found at pmk. All the others are ABS.

>> No.58826183

>>58826157
>>58826049
Wow I butchered that. I meant to say that SA profile is made by signature plastics and they have their own website called pimpmykeyboard.com. There are only two PBT sets and the rest are ABS

>> No.58826195

>>58825883
If you really want retro then get a black Unicomp. Either the one with the orginal case, or the slim one

>> No.58826205
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>> No.58826246

tfw picking up a 1990 model m tomorrow

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>>58826205
my camera makes these look purple (they're blue.) I wish the blank keycaps I got were a little less translucent when backlit. the picture makes it look worse than it really is

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>>58826448
better example

>> No.58827060

Guy looking for a retro keyboard again. What should I expect to pay for a SA or DSA profile kepcap set on a group buy (full Filco tenkey)? I keep looking, but can't seem to find anything on sale right now. Wish they'd do another granite or similar retro group buy.

>> No.58827064

>>58826448
Maybe your camera is trying to tell you something

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>>58818007
Then get an ergodox instead of going for half assed ergonomics.

>> No.58827099

>>58827060
Over $100. The cheapest SA set other then the Filco one was godspeed and that was like 90 bucks for a full set

>> No.58827103

>>58827064
Don't be silly, we're all faggots in here anyway.

>> No.58827113

>>58827060
They did do a granite set last week and it sold out in less then a day

>> No.58827160

>>58827103
Hey man I didn't say that. I don't know what you thought I implied but thats your opinion

>> No.58827174

>>58827160
lol that wasn't me some other guy replied. I don't know what either of your comments were about!

>> No.58827215

>>58815831
Fuck off you stupid autist, nobody fucking cares

>> No.58827318
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58827318

should i get this TKL but not TKL board?

>> No.58827323

>>58827174
Suuure thing pal

>> No.58827335

>>58827318
Just get a tomoko

>> No.58827352

>>58827318
I think i got a tumor reading that.

>> No.58827360

>>58827352
http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/alienware-aurora-r5-desktop

>> No.58827580

>>58827360
Now my tumor has metastasized

>> No.58827629

>>58817992
That looks like it was made in a fucking sweat shop.

>> No.58827689

>>58818248
Massdrop also gets their stuff from chink so it makes no sense to recommend them over just aliexpress.

>> No.58827720
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58827720

Just fucked up and doused my keyboard with water. It's currently drying out, but just in case it's dead, what's a good similar replacement for a Noppoo Lolita Spyder with Kailh browns?

>> No.58827777

>>58827720
Basically any other TKL chink board with brown knockoffs. Just go on Amazon. Or take this chance to get a keyboard with switches that aren't shit.

>> No.58827812

>>58827777
So recommend one that isn't shit then.

>> No.58827842

>>58827689
Massdrop has reasonably fast customer service and a warranty which is why many people pay the $10 extra cost

>> No.58827884
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58827884

Are the fc660c boards still available?

>> No.58827994

>>58827884
Yes

>> No.58828040

did i make a mistake getting the ducky pocket with browns from massdrop?

>> No.58828069

>>58828040
How much did you pay?

>> No.58828087

If i buy one of those 40 dollar Redragon keyboards can i replace the keycaps with all those fancy sets i see on massdrop?

>> No.58828165

>>58828069
$70US shipped halfway across the world

>> No.58828393

>blindly buy mechanical keyboard with no research
>keys give too easily, sometimes I'm holding down a key when I don't realize it
>find out I bought red switches and I probably wanted brown switches
Fug

>> No.58828410

What is the mechanical keyboard of the mouse?

>> No.58828426

>>58828393
you probably want clears then

>> No.58828467

>>58828426
...I may as well but a switch tester then. I'm gonna have to get used to this for now.

>> No.58828522

>>58828040
>>58828165
lemme get this straight. you bought a wired calculator with switches for 70 bucks?
wew

>> No.58828528

missus is in japan on business
she goes into yodobashi in akiba and buys me a hhkb for valentines

is this true love /g/?

>> No.58828538

>>58828087
Yes, but it would still look like shit with that logo

>> No.58828559

>>58828522
no, i bought a normal battery powered portable calculator that can also be plugged into a computer to use as a numpad

>> No.58828568

>>58828522
It can be used wirelessly like a regular calculator so if you want to annoy your classm8s get one with blues

>> No.58828569

>>58828528
She felt bad for all the gooks she let fuck her and bought it to make up for the guilt.

>> No.58828579
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>>58828528
>hey honey I bought you this keyboard I heard you talk about so much :3

>> No.58828611
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>>58828569
gooks are korean you dip

>>58828579
pic related

>> No.58828683

>>58828611
Well duh. Nobody wants to fuck a Japanese dude and the Korean population in Japan is high

>> No.58828726

Is there any decent way to get a Ducky Shine 5 in Canada? Or am I stuck getting one from the states?

>> No.58828744

>>58828410
Ducky secret is made out of pbt plastic and has somewhat heavier/louder switches compared to Logitechs latest offerings.

>> No.58828757

MORTAL KOMBAT GENERAL.

Can anyone recommend me a good keyboard for gaming?

>price
50 - 100$
>switch types
Something fast and easy to press down
>layout
ANSI preferred
>form factor
100% or 80%
>back light
Neutral
>current keyboard
Whatever 10$ membrane keyboard

>> No.58828778

>>58815891
Sorry Hillary lost :^)

>> No.58828845

>>58828757
Cherry mx silvers or silent reds are the new gaming meme. I think some ducky and also filco boards with them are coming out soon/ were just released. Check mechanicalkeyboards.com . You can filter by switch type/color.

>> No.58828928

>>58828757
Get a kahiua k16 for 60 bucks

>> No.58828945
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58828945

>>58827884
Yes, but why wouldn't you want the superior layout?

>> No.58828983

Does anyone know the manufacturer for the cherry profile dyesub pbt caps on assdrop? The printing is not as dark as the enjoypbt sets but I can get them for half as much money.

>> No.58829020

>>58828983
Never mind I guess they are gateron caps. Pretty decent considering $45 is how much I spent on a set of blanks from them last year.

>> No.58829036

>>58828983
If you are talking about the master control ones then judging by the discussion the quality isn't all that great

>> No.58829065

>>58828945
Why would I want a number pad?

>> No.58829085

>>58829036
Damn I got all excited. Thanks for the heads up.
>>58829020
Disregard this I am dumb.

>> No.58829141

>>58828528
Hi from Reddit /u/Wodge!!!! Does the narwhal bacon? xD

>> No.58829147
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58829147

Which colour scheme should I get?

leaning towards pink+blue currently.

>> No.58829157

>>58829141
pls upvote my posts

>> No.58829261
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>>58829147
Miami is on massdrop right now

>> No.58829290

>tfw you aren't sure if you made the right choice on the switches you bought

>> No.58829369

>>58829290
As long as you didn't buy reds you should be fine

>> No.58829605

>>58829369
I chose reds because Reddit told me they were good for gaming and typing.

>> No.58829673
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58829673

Does Unicomp's Sun Unix keyboard have anything that would keep it from running on a system running Mint? The catalog page says "hard coded for Sun Unix OS" and I don't know what to make of that.

>> No.58829681

>>58829065
to triforce
too bad it can be copied now

>> No.58829710

>>58829261
What's up with your space bar? Looks like it broke in two spots

>> No.58829754

>>58829710
that keyboard uses a 5.5u spacebar, he took a 6.25u one and shortened it to make it fit

>> No.58829796

>>58828528
It better be Topre.

There's a regular rubber dome HHKB, and if she bought that, she doesn't love tou.

>> No.58829808

>>58828611
>$270 for a keyboard

wat

>> No.58829946
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>>58829147
They all kind of look like shit but Miami is least shit. Depends on your desk desu

>> No.58829972

>>58829673
It works on windows so it should work fine on linux. Send them an email

>> No.58829975

>>58829946
I just got my tax stamp for my first suppressor today senpai. Will post a pic for you once I pick it up. :^)

>> No.58830087
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58830087

Thoughts on this keyboard?

I'm gonna pull the trigger for this if it's good.

Gateron Blues, and this, Redragon Kumara, and Razer Blackwidow Tourney (lol) are on my price range.

>> No.58830112

>>58830087
looks ugly

>> No.58830118

>>58830087
shit keycaps, board that's really good for the price

>> No.58830218

>>58830087
Just get a tomomo for 30 bucks

>> No.58830357

>>58830218
I would if I could. TOMOKO doesn't ship to my shithole country.

>>58830112
>>58830118
Is it horrible to type on this thing? I'll just order regular keycaps for this, or wait for the regular Smart 68 to restock.

>> No.58830426

>>58830357
the board is fine the keycaps are shit

>> No.58830571

>Budget
like up to $1000, i don't care
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
topre
>Layout/Form factor
ANSI-ish I guess, but really I want something with an ergonomic layout, and also split and with adjustable tenting
>Backlight
don't care
>Previous/current keyboards
some ducky shine with cherry browns, some kul tkl with cherry greens, extensively used some keyboards in a computer lab with cherry blues.


Basically it seems like the only option for ergonomic with topre is the utron, but apparently it's sold out (except for one on ebay with a huge markup, even after all the japan proxy fees). Are there other options I'm missing? Tbh I'm not super fond of the fact that it's in JIS format and that it doesn't have an equivalent of the windows key, but I'm assuming I can just get around that with xmodmap, and like even if I can't, I really don't mind a bit of a learning curve. I don't want an ergodox because I've had thumb issues in the past and I don't want to bring those back, and also I'm sick of cherry switches (I can't imagine gaterons are that different).

>> No.58830584

>>58830571
Get a data hand

>> No.58830656

>>58830584
hmm, looks interesting, but kinda worrying that it's been out of production so everything you can get is super old.

>> No.58830692

>>58830584
>>58830656
also, it would be nice to have a usb connection to plug into my laptops. I guess I could use a ps2->usb converter, but like whatever

>> No.58831607

>>58828757
Corsair K65 Vengeance and done. Get one off ebay.

>> No.58831657
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58831657

Ended up getting those brown and beige Filco SA double shot keycaps. Would have preferred something in PBT and with a better color scheme, but couldn't find anything in DSA or SA anywhere close in price ($55)

pic related (but not my board).

>> No.58831705

>>58831657
Yeah that's the cheapest SA set that we'll ever get.

>> No.58831748

>>58831705

Anywhere I can get a few single keys with the same SA profile and font? Want to get an escape and enter (for commons and for numpad) key in burgundy red to give it a little color.

>> No.58832002

https://www.storeuni.com/collections/mymkb/products/group-buy-minimal-metal-96?variant=34160247110

$90US for a programmable 96-key with ps2avrGB, should i go for it?

>> No.58832069

>>58831748
http://pimpmykeyboard.com/novelty/

>> No.58832217
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58832217

how do i get a keyboard like this? no hhkb come with these caps as far as i can tell.

>> No.58832290
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58832290

>>58832217
you'd have to spend another $300 and get a topre hi-pro

>> No.58832459

Now that keycaps are becoming popular, why don't Chinese manufacturers start pumping out SA and DSA-style keycap sets for much cheaper?

>> No.58832475

>>58832459

It's happening. XDA as a DSA alternative has had two group buys in the past two months, though the second one provided no discount compared to DSA.

SA has popped up though I'm not sure if it's in mass production yet.

>> No.58832535

>>58832459
those already happened, not only that but vortex is now making SA and DSA keycaps

>> No.58832553

>>58832459
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/DSA-keycaps.html?ltype=wholesale&d=y&origin=n&isViewCP=y&catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170206215258&SearchText=DSA+keycaps&blanktest=0&tc=af

>> No.58832560

So I'm looking for a 60% (or 65%) keyboard to build out-
I want Top and Bottom RGB though. Before anyone throws a fit, one of the spots I go to do work (to get peace from the rest of my family) is somewhat dark, and the LEDs on my current keyboard give me enough light to work with (I don't have that much space to bring a light into the workshop)

What kits are my options? I have a GH60 and that's been great to work with, but I need something with lights (And I use Gateron Clears, so premades are not entirely my friend)

>> No.58832574

>>58832459
>>58832553
this didn't come up from some reason
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/150-keys-PBT-White-Radium-vulture-Perfect-Arc-Spherical-Keycap-Cherry-MX-switch-keycaps-for-Wired/32778268138.html

>> No.58832595
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>>58832560
GH60, but with an acrylic case to let rgb lights through. Also the GH60 does support RGB lighting if you bought the PCB that does

>> No.58832640

>>58832595
I was uncertain about that one based on the descriptions I was seeing. Does it support both top and bottom LEDs though, and are the top ones SMD? The one I have absolutely does not support RGB, Which is fine because I'll just turn it into my travel keyboard.

>> No.58832642
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E N D G A M E

>> No.58832669

>>58832640
It supports LEDs that are on the switch, not SMD LEDs

>> No.58832705
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58832705

>>58832560
If you want 65% there is the RS68. The LEDs are mounted on the PCB

>> No.58832737

>>58832705
I absolutely adore the RedScarf, but I cannot find a place to buy it from

>> No.58832772
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58832772

>>58832737
They come in stock like twice a year. You already missed the first one so you're gonna have to wait till the middle of the year, or you can build a GH60 with RGB lighting

>> No.58833064

>>58832535
>vortex

Link to any news on the vortex dsa and SA sets plz

>> No.58833191

>>58827083
Function over looks I know but there is a limit

>> No.58833201

Is it just me or does everyone feel overwhelmed by the sheer variety of switches, layouts and keycaps? I feel like I need to find the perfect board but I don't have that much money to burn but if I don't buy this thing now then I'll probably never find it again.

The worst part is that it's almost impossible to know exactly what you like without shelling out a shit ton of money.

God.

>> No.58833450
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>>58820593
I really hate this font and seems like every cyrillic set uses it. That ugly ass й especially triggers me.

>> No.58833499

>>58826205
>>Tobacco and a gun with shitty alcohol
I would tell you to kill yourself but youre already doing it kek

>> No.58833641

I need a 60% keyboard to type during my classes. Should I get mx clears and o-ring them or should I get a type-s? I already have a 87U 55g so it's hard for me to justify buying a 340$+ keyboard.

>> No.58833667

>>58833641
Do you bottom out? O-rings only affect bottom out noise, Topre silencing only affects the upstroke.

>> No.58833688

>>58833667
Yeah, I bottom out.

>> No.58833897
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58833897

>>58833450
Not every set, no. This is a replica of early cherry cyrillic caps, those are ugly as well.
Though Й doesn't triggers me as much as Ю and misplaced Ё.

>> No.58833921
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58833921

I just got my magicforce keyboard. I can change the polling rate (c/s) between 20, 40 and 60.
Does the c/s rate relate to the hz polling rate? Does the keyboard run at 1000hz? Does it only run at 1000hz when it's set to 60 c/s?

>> No.58833956
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>>58833897
And Ъ. Ugh...

>> No.58834105

>>58833956
There is a lot of things wrong with this russian layout legends: Й, Ю, Ъ, Д with descenders bigger than on Ц, misplaced Ё, weirdly placed /, half-height № (WHY).
It's all fucked up to the point that it has certain "so ugly its beautiful" charm to it for anyone who knows what cyrillic font and layout should look like.

>> No.58834244

I replaced my DSA caps on my Mx Clear Pok3r with ePBTs and now the switches feel slightly too heavy for my tastes. Are Gat Blacks worth considering if I want something slightly lighter than clears but won't be loud as shit? Not a fan of Mx Browns and Mx Blues are too loud

>> No.58834251

>>58834244
if you want lighter clears, you're gonna have to either replace the springs in your clears or buy mod/zealio switches

blacks are a completely different thing

>> No.58834268

>>58834244
Wouldn't changing springs be a cheaper option?

>> No.58834278

>>58834251
I know but I want to try linears but I'm unsure if they'll feel fucky or not after being used t clears

>> No.58834315

>>58826205
You are the trashiest person I've seen on /v/

>> No.58834561

How long do i have to wait before they restock the Anne pro gateron browns? I need that shit

>> No.58835223
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58835223

>>58833191
You have shit taste.
Also there should be no limit to functionality.
Limiting yourself in comfort, ergonomics and functionality because of some design trends is pretty damn retarded.

>> No.58835238

why do you guys hate brown switches so much

racists

>> No.58835241

Guys, I have a serious question. How can I use my own layout on Gh60 chinkmen edition rev C? It is real pain in the ass to flash it.

>> No.58835303

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsF7ttfBn8g

>> No.58835375

>>58835238
we're not racist, we love og blacks

>> No.58835404

>>58835303
>RGB
>Gaming
>Best
**DOES NOT COMPUTE**

>> No.58835627

>>58835404
look up the difference between best and good

>> No.58835657

>>58835238
Well gateron browns are liked, ao go.figure.

>> No.58835671

>>58835241
Doesn't it use an atmega32u4?

>> No.58835701

>Budget
100-130$

>Location (continent at least)
Europe

>Preferred switch type
Blue or Brown

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
100%

>Backlight
White or no backlight

>Previous/current keyboards
CM Quickfire TK Mx Red

Is this a good choice?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Leopold-FC900R-Mechanical-Keyboard-Cherry-MX-Blue-Click-Double-Shot-LED-/281800109896?hash=item419c986f48:g:HCYAAOSwsB9V9070

>> No.58835740

>>58835238
They're boring to type on.

I just got myself some Gateron Cumskins

>> No.58835820

poorfag here, what is the best knockoff switches brand?

>> No.58835856

>>58835820
Gaterons from aliexpress
Look for seller that has ones that are like $22 for 65 switches, there are more options

>> No.58835910
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58835910

>>58815779

Anyone familiar with the TOMOKO/VicTsing?
Can i put those keycaps on it:

http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/keycap-set/88-key-iso-cherry-mx-keycap-set.html

?

>> No.58835952

>>58815779
Using Realforce 140 atm, feels good man

>> No.58836182

>>58833921
Polling rate is a meme

>> No.58836212

>>58836182
So what you are saying is that i should be using ps/2?
fine.

>> No.58836284
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58836284

What can i do to remove the ywllowing? I know hydrogen peroxide works with some UV light, but the problem is that there is no sun where i live and UV bulbs are fucking expensive

>> No.58836320

>>58836284
retr0bright is pretty much it, that or you could paint it

>> No.58836362

>>58836212
If you want too. Polling rate in keyboards is a meme since you really can't tell the difference between 125hz and 1000hz

>> No.58836579
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58836579

Isnt it supposed to be some sort of plastic stuff that makes it stay steady on the table? It really moving around easily

>> No.58836846

>>58835856
switchtop can be cheaper

>> No.58837284

Anyone have experience with any of the cheap aliexpress mechanical keyboards?

Want to try a mechanical, don't want to spend a ton of money on a keyboard though.

>> No.58837296

>>58837284
Just get a magicforce with gaterons.

>> No.58837319
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>> No.58837527
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>>58837319
oh hey are we doing this bullshit

>> No.58837528

>>58837296

It's not full size, no thanks.

>> No.58837578

>>58837527
yes! everyone post legs.
also cute cat you got there

>> No.58837744

>>58837527
are you in a barn

>> No.58837764

>>58837744
no
that's packing material
shredded wood

>> No.58837778

>>58837528
Magiforce makes full size keyboards

>> No.58837889

>>58815779
Okay, let's go:

>Budget
200€
>Location (continent at least)
Spain
>Preferred switch type
Non-clicky tactile, like cherry browns. Don't care if it's a cherry clone as long as it has some manner of quality to them.
>Layout
Prefer ANSI, am fine with ISO
>Form factor
75%, willing to settle for a good lefty tkl.
>Backlight
Don't care as long as I can turn it off.
>Previous/current keyboards
Some piece of shit.

>Also:
Floating keycaps because I'm resistant but not entirely immune to fashion.

>> No.58837927

>>58837889
If you want floating keycaps get some shitty chink shit keyboard since they love those.

Otherwise there is a Filco with the spanish layout on keyboardco.com

>> No.58837948

Are there any mechanical keyboards with a detachable left side? To get the fuck rid of arrow keys and numberpads when I am thrashing my mouse about.

>> No.58837980

>>58837948
Just get a noppoo choc mini if you're a gaymer

>> No.58838129

Logitech g15 Master race

>> No.58838186

>>58837980
noppoo has quality issues. If a company wants me to roll the dice with their shitty product they better send me two for the price of one so I don't have to send the one I have back if it fails two weeks down the road.

>> No.58838187

>tfw fell for the red swtich meme

>> No.58838215

>>58838187
What's wrong with it

>> No.58838233

>>58837778

Any idea where to get them in Canada? Aliexpress only has the 68 and Amazon doesn't list them.

>> No.58838238

>>58837948
Calm down autismo its just a game.

>> No.58838239

>>58838215
I don't think I like them but now I'm stuck with them.

>> No.58838263

>>58838238
I solve my problems by buying stuff that is more expensive than the stuff I already have.

>> No.58838273

>>58838233
Can you buy them from the US?
This one has gateron blacks
https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlight-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01HGDKJK4

>> No.58838289

>>58838239
Not necessarily, you can mod current switches into any other switch you want without desoldering.

You would of course need to buy the other switches. Then just swap the stem/spring.

>> No.58838319

>>58838273

Amazon us doesn't ship to Canada unless you do it through a 3rd party service, which makes shipping stupid expensive. There's usually a border charge too, so unfortunately massdrop and Amazon.com are out.

>> No.58838343

>>58838319
Then get a tomoko since that's the next best thing
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B01DBJTZU2/ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486490549&sr=8-1-fkmr0&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=qisan+magicforce

>> No.58838441

>>58838343

Is there a model with backlighting? Do I need to upgrade the switches?

>> No.58838560

>>58838343

Found it. Still unsure about the switches though

>> No.58838565
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58838565

Just got this, holy fuck its small

>> No.58838721

>>58821278
>sense
why?
for you maybe m80

I want my numpad in the right

>> No.58838831

>>58823912
is the Walther P99 the most aesthetic weapon ever made?

>> No.58838928

New thread!
>>58838919
>>58838919
>>58838919

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