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>Buyer's template:
>Where to Buy:
>Use the buyer's template
>Keyset wiki

Previous thread >>58767983

>> No.58786956

tfw just bought a topre

>> No.58787080
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i'm still triggered

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Best brand.

>> No.58787446
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Anyone got the bluetooth version of the hhkb? If so, how do you like it?

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Friendly reminder that the Tada68 is only 84$ on taobao

(60 $ + 24$ shipping)

taobao /item/537653557670.htm?fromSite=main

>> No.58787614

Do the MOD-L switches have their tactile bump at the top like the rest, or should I be buying the heavier ones instead?

>> No.58787634

>chink holidays are finally over so they can ship mine
thank god

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good night /mkg/

>> No.58787920

I'm looking to get my first real mech. Currently using shitty razer bw ultimate. I'm between Pok3r, Tada68, and Anne Pro with browns as a decent cheap starter. Does anyone have a better ~60% rec?

>> No.58787937

Do you need some sort of proxy to order from taobao?

>> No.58787975

Those are all pretty good for how much they cost and how much they offer. Get the Pok3r if you want the one with the best overall quality, TADA68 if you need the arrow keys and Anne Pro if you want something with RGB LEDs. Not sure if the Pok3r has Gateron browns, but the other two definitely do, and they're a lot better than Cherry browns.

>> No.58788038

Here's some formatting for my post.

>Location (continent at least)

>Preferred switch type
browns I guess, blues are too loud for me now and I type pretty light. Clears sound like a gamble and zealios are difficult to find in an "accessible" board.


>Form factor
60% or 65-75%

RGB preferred, not a big deal though.

>Previous/current keyboards
Razer Black Widow Ultimate

>> No.58788075

Any of the ones you mentioned or a Magicforce as another option. The Anne Pro has RGB and is $80, while a Pok3r RGB is $130 and a bit harder to find. The others all have backlight but not RGB.

>> No.58788133

Yea I found a white Pok3r RGB with cherry browns which fills most all of my requirements, but it was sold out. Couldn't find it anywhere else. Wish the pok3rs offered gats but I believe it's only cherry. My main dilemma is that there are no available mechs that check all the boxes.

I've considered the MF, but it dropped out of the running because I wasn't a fan of the logo on the front. I may consider it again simply because of the price and availability of gaterons.

>> No.58788155

The stem shape is essentially the same as the other clear clones out there. The difference in feel comes from the weight of the spring, really.

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>> No.58788183

That looks tasty

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why are Cherry switches so shit? I never thought I'd buy Topre but it truly has godtier tactility with zero key wobbling.

>> No.58788353

What makes Topre so different from a rubber dome? I get your feeling, I tend to drift back to rubber despite extensive time MX.

>> No.58788391

Japanese mystique

>> No.58788404

As someone who's never used Topre, how is it for gaming? Does it make that much of a difference?

>> No.58788554

It's perfectly doable, but personally, I prefer Cherry MX (or its clones) over Topre for gaming. Hell, I even prefer blues over Topre. Somehow it feels like Topre is very slow to pop back up.

>> No.58788657

Damnit. I want something that supposedly feels as great as topre and sounds just as clocky but is actually functional for gayming.

>> No.58788691

Matias Quiet Click and zealios are great imo. But Topre is perfectly functional even for competitive FPS as long as you don't double tap a lot. If you want to go the tryhard route, might as well get reds.

>> No.58789160

I tried a topre in Japan, and it felt exactly what it is: rubberdomes with spring

>> No.58789535

Stop posting this in every mkg you autistic faggot

>> No.58789611

Thanks. It's what I always wanted to know.

>> No.58789634

tada68 vs. whitefox vs. hhkb?

>> No.58789662

I recently bought topre.
They are great for typing but i shit u not i turn to shitty laptop chicklets while playing. Feedback from topre switches is really odd while consecutivily pressing/holding the same button.

>> No.58789774



>Preferred switch type
Browns, since I do a good amount of both typing and playing games.


>Form factor
preferably full, but willing to try 80%

no preference

>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech K200

This will be my first mechanical keyboard purchase. I really dug the Anne pro but from the looks of it, it only came in 60%

>> No.58789786

Hey dogs.

I peck at the keyboard with two index fingers. I haven't used a mech kb but imagine that if I do, I'll be bottoming out because of the amount force I hit the keys with. As such, I was interested in MX Blacks or Reds, but people complain that they are not smooth. Besides Gaterons, what should I consider?

>> No.58789826

Forgot to add:

Budget $175
USA English ANSI 100%
Definitely no backlight.

Have only used rubber domes and Dells like this one:

>> No.58789912

get blank caps and learn to touch type, you will be as fast as before in a week, probably doubling your speed in a month.
Gateron browns.
>100 %
don't do this.

>> No.58789971

I type 70 WPM without trying very hard. No hunting, just pecking. An advantage of sticking with pecking is that I don't need a split or ergonomic keyboard to avoid contorting my wrists.

And I'm sure I want a numpad for calculator use and other numerical typing. Functionality is more important to me than meme size.

>> No.58790086

So why do people rave about them so much? There must be a difference or that'd mean people are paying ten times more than what they should on rubber domes.

>> No.58790102

i can toggle my second layer faster than you can move your hand to your numpad, i doubt any fullsize keyboard beats a fully programmable keyboard in functionality.

>> No.58790136


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>> No.58790266

On those 60% keyboards, is it common for the toggle/function button(s) to lock? I.e., I need a one-handed numpad, directional keys, and home,end,pgup,pgdn,etc without holding down a fn key.

I have always dismissed small keyboards due to this but I should've probably looked into this.

It would be important to achieve this without software due to wanting to use the keyboard on locked down work computers. Important but not absolutely required.

>> No.58790285

dunno about other firmwares but yes tmk lets you control whether fn keys are momentary on or toggle on

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truly programmable keyboards work via firmware changes.
for example the ergodox, gh60, lets split, minivan, dactyl...
i set one of my layers to toggle and one to push, so i have mouse movements and a numpad on my toggle layer, but this is fully up to you.
i personally have all the things you describe on my ergodox.

>> No.58790298

And ideally I would use numpad etc on the left hand only.

This is getting pretty specific so I know I'll have to do some research, but if you or anyone knows off the top of your head I'd appreciate it.

I'm starting to warm up to software-based remapping and macro type stuff.

>> No.58790301

Topre or bust.

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Is that some new PCB to move the thumb cluster closer inwards?

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Has anyone here every bought a keyboard refurbished from Corsair's site before? They have some good prices but I'm afraid I'll get something either broken or looking like it survived an explosion.

>> No.58790330


This changes things bigly. Hopefully I can find one that doesn't look like I'm preparing to enter the matrix because I do like the idea of a very simple split design.

Thanks for all the leads on brands.

>> No.58790344

>>This is getting pretty specific so I know I'll have to do some research, but if you or anyone knows off the top of your head I'd appreciate it.
this is really easy to do on a programmable keyboard.
takes like ten minutes to customize your layouts. and flashing is literally just make, teensyloader, pushbutton. i like qmk personally, tmk is not that far off. i just recommend using GNU/Linux or at least some GNU/Linux VM for the firmware part, windows makes things difficult.
looks like it, might also be custom made without a pcb.

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well the ergodox-ez for example looks fairly vanilla, the GH60 and the diverge TM2 look vanilla as well if you want. but i am not sure what firmware people use on the diverge.

>> No.58790422

Wait wait wait so Topre feels exactly like rubber domes, yet people spend hundreds of dollars on HHKBs. So are people actually overspending on something that could be 20 dollars or is there actually a difference between rubber dome and Topre that justifies the price?

>> No.58790431

96 Key groupbuys where, I fucking neeeeeeeeed it

>> No.58790530


open source firmware and hardware for keyboards.. damn. fxing 2017

Thanks, my dogs.

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I prefer super flat scissor keys

>> No.58790542

I also enjoy penises.

>> No.58790544

good for you

>> No.58790609


>> No.58790624

They are just very smooth rubber domes that activate before bottoming out.

>> No.58790685

they don't feel exactly like rubber domes at all. it's more like a dollar steak vs a $50 steak

>> No.58790820

weird ass censorship

>> No.58790836

is there any way to have the cable to the computer going to the left half with an ergodox, or does it have to be right half only?

>> No.58790967

Yes, but if I recall correctly it's a hassle and requires modifying the case.

>> No.58790990

That's annoying. If only the Infinity version didn't have the issues it does and had the option for a nicer case like falbatech and profet offer

>> No.58791118

Dude it's a fucking cable get over it.
You shouldn't have fallen for the mechanical artisans meme in the first place and learn to make shit by yourself.
You could've DIY'd a few cables for the price of that one.

>> No.58791186

You'll get over it soon enough. I had a HHKB for a year and a half and I sold it. It was really great at the beginning but it just becomes boring.

After that I built a custom 60% for around the same price of a new HHKB and it's so much better. And the thing with cherry, if I get bored with one switch, I just replace the stems or springs and I get a "new" keyboard.

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Maybe when they drop the costar stablizers.

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>> No.58791596

couple of options for your to look at:

ducky one
leopold fc900r
cherry board mx 3.0
rosewill rk-9000v2

>> No.58791828

Well you can also switch sides, but if you want both sides to be separate keyboards it gets a bit more complicated, like with the infinity.
it depends a bit on which case you use. but for most cases it works. maybe you could ask the falbatech people if they can make a switched case.

>> No.58791944


>gaymen LED shit

Just buy a type heaven and save $150 you idiot.

>> No.58792027

But then I can't change the actuation distance. What will I brag about then?

>> No.58792257

Rosewill browns will be your best bet for that budget although see if you can find a Dell AT101W keyboard. They have black ALPS switches that are similiar to Cherry Browns and you can modify them if you want to make them linear instead of tactile. Most are around 20 bucks on ebay or less if you can find one in a recycling center or thrift shop.

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>> No.58792394

Redpill me on paying extra for 7u spacebars and 1.5u bottom row mods with winkeyless keyboards that would also fuck with my decades of muscle memory involving the left alt position and windows key

>> No.58792606

Does anyone know whether or not you can disable the LEDs on a TADA68?

>> No.58792616

yes you can

>> No.58792904

Pro tip: regular $0.50 cables transmit your keyboard signals just as well, while lasting longer.
Braided cables belong on /fa/.

>> No.58792953


>> No.58793035
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Aesthetic purposes.

And I want at least one board with fancy lights in my collection at all times

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its pretty meh really. They keys aren't fully rgb lit

>> No.58793061

what's the best place that internationally ships legit cherry pcb stabs

don't wanna buy from zeal since he's a faggot

>> No.58793083


>> No.58793102

how can i be sure i won't be getting shitty rattly clones like the ones that came with my rs68 kit

>> No.58793130

they're all rattly except for the costar ones

>> No.58793279

I don't even play games. I just wanted LED backlight, and RGB came as an extra so why not.

>> No.58793410

No they're not.
t. Chink

>> No.58793472

google search says you have to wait a few more days

>> No.58793543

Some of my stuff that was pending isn't anymore, so at least some of them are done with it. Probably gotta wait until Monday for everything though.

>> No.58793760


>Diamond arrow key arrangement instead of WASD
>Eject button on the keyboard???

>> No.58793822

I'm considering getting a 60% keyboard, but I'm miffed by the lack of arrow keys and function keys on most of them. So a coupla questions:

Do any of the following exist? (dont care about switches or price range for now)
-Numeric keyboard with arrow keys
-80% with arrow keys on left side
-100% with numpad and arrow keys on left side
-60ish% with function key row

I found this keyboard (https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=96) but it looks kinda funky.

>> No.58793831

well the HHKB is fully programmable with qmk so if you don't like those button placements then change them

>> No.58793853

...eject cd maybe? Who fucking uses fn keys anyway. Fake arrows will never fill the void in my heart.

>> No.58793865

60% have all those on a function layer, and the programmable ones like pok3r let you rebind them however you want. If you need a dedicated function row then get something like the noppoo choc mini

>> No.58794029

>function layer
why do I feel dirty every time I hear that?

The choc mini looks okay though. Now I think about it, I can just use the numpad as arrow keys if I really want to. And I was going to bitch about macro keys but I guess that has the same solution, just dump the responsability onto the separate numpad. Feasible right?

I'd love to just saw off the right side of my keyboard and replace the switches with mechanical ones. If only.

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You can get all that with Anne Pro, it's more compact and aesthetic than that one plus it's cheap, has LED lights controlled via app, and by default the arrow keys are mapped to FN+WASD.

>> No.58794180

anyone try or have a plum87?
massdrop has it for $90

>> No.58794210

Do some custom key caps improve the typing experience or is it purely for aesthetics?

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ITT: Needless Gearfaggotry Deluxe

>> No.58794415

PBT keycaps, specially thick ones, feel better to type on. It's not a massive difference, but you really start to grow into it over time, and it feels nicer than ABS.

>> No.58794544

They only have Gateron Black, Brown, or Green.

>> No.58794573

Its not... You need the hasu controller for any customization.

>> No.58794686

Hello peoples,
I'm looking for some purchase advice. I need a blue switch mechanical tenkeyless or full tenkeyless preferred that has raised keys like
for easy cleaning. I've used Daskeyboard and really like the high build quality and metal body so something similar would be great. No budget really just not stupid expensive ~$400 stuff. I'm in America so Amazon or pretty much anywhere is on the table for sellers.Thanks in advance for the advice.

>> No.58794702

Can anyone recommend a keyboard like the MasterKeys Pro S but better or of same quality? I've had to replace my first one because it would randomly turn off sometimes and now my replacement seems to keep disconnecting and connecting back but not working unless I re-connect the wire, not sure if this is because of a tiny coca-cola spill (as in one little dot or two on the keyboard from a splash far away) or the cable being a little bent (the head). I asked for a new cable but if they refuse I'll ask to refund as this keyboard is giving me too much trouble.

>> No.58794707

That's not green, it's blue. Which one do you want?

>> No.58794756

Never saw anyone with this issue. Mine works fine, but then again, I never dropped anything on it. Why not try literally any other micro USB cable? You don't need a specific one.

Regardless, if you can't work this out, then I guess a Ducky One is pretty similar.

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You may only post in this thread if your keyboard was made in America. Not so fast, 95% of /mkg/

>> No.58795011
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american pig disguisting
i have a soviet reed switch keyboard, they used switches of precisely this model on the Mir space station
space tech fuck yeah

>> No.58795024
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I made mine at home, does that count?

>> No.58795268

I just spent the last two weeks using a model m, then switched back to my mx blue switches today.
Holy shit I hate them now, I understand why people say model ms are the best keyboards ever made.

>> No.58795282

please respond the only thing ive found close are the corsair kb's and they seem pretty garbo for the price

>> No.58795313


>> No.58795514

Clears or Reds.

>> No.58795618
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If keyboard X is using Cherry MX switches (e.g. brown), and keyboard Y is using also using Cherry MX, then the typing experience will be the same on both, right?

>> No.58795695

There's a lot more factors to conaider, but general presses yes.

>> No.58795729

switch plate and keycaps are also important factors.

>> No.58795730

Yep, its cherry it will be equally shitty.
Cherry basically produces two types of switches,
linear scratchy as fuck switches and even more scratchy switches which they try to sell as tactile switches.
Keep your money and avoid cherry at all cost.

>> No.58795738
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>mfw most people buy mechanical keyboards for gayming
Gayming is literally the last thing that mechanical keyboard might be useful for

>> No.58795752

wtf? topre is just a rubber dome? why are they so expensive?

>> No.58795757

>not manufactured by IBM before 1993
fucking trash

>> No.58796039

wtf dude you're telling me corsair and razer lied when they said their ultra fast switches would improve my gaming performance??

>> No.58796239

people like trash because it's expensive. That's like asking why apple products are so overpriced.

>> No.58797329

Music editing

>> No.58797500

>He doesn't use a diamond cluster

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Black or white /mkg/? I need something to replace the hideous gamerfont ones that came with my chinkboard. This is the only set I can find for cheap that matches my layout with the short shift.

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What the everloving fuck is this switch?
The seller claims it's "better than Model M" but he can't even name it.

>> No.58797709

Some kind of beaner shit.

>> No.58797839

Aye, no shit Sherlock.

>> No.58797956

how about you give us some more information about it?

>> No.58797960

Topre senses the change in capacitance in order to register a switch. Those sensors are expensive and even cheap chink ones cost around 100 bucks

>> No.58798040

Unless you give us the name of the keyboard we can't help you. Looks like a rubberdome with slider

>> No.58798091

That's a Focus keyboard mane. Don't even bother, rubber dome with clicky tactile mechanism.

>> No.58798120

Seems to be a chink brand - Ecovision, though I'm positive it must be a rebrand of an actual brand. There are no visible model numbers on it.

>> No.58798134

am i going to notice a big difference if i go from a type heaven to a realforce or is it even worth it?

also, does the 'all 45g' thing make that big of a difference? i can't find one with the keypad on it that's only one kind, and i need it for work

>> No.58798181


>> No.58798235


Nice, thanks for the lead. So they're kinda like Fujitsu Peerless? To be honest, for the price the guy is selling it I might as well get an actual Model M, or some alps clone. If it's just a regular old dome with slider it's definitely not worth the price.

>> No.58798296

Very similar to a fujitsu peerless, yeah.

>> No.58798316

rubber dome is better for gaming desu

>> No.58798540

definitely not

>> No.58798547

the type of keyboard you use is irrelevant for gaming
just use what feels best, functionally all keyboards do basically the same thing.

>> No.58798550

Literally just go on Amazon and type in "mechanical keyboard blue" and you will find countless variations on what you're looking for.

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Try using a keyboard with 2key rollover

>> No.58798747


>> No.58799057

Topre is a meme. Call me back when we have a modern buckling spring switch on keyboards that don't look like shit.

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Good evening fellow autists and /g/entooman. I humbly request your suggestions.

Anything less than $185

United States

>Preferred switch type
I think I would like to use browns unless someone has another suggestion

>Form Factor
The super-minimalist keyboards with no wasted keyboard space that some of you guys have look really cool, but I prefer a full keyboard with a numpad. I'm not set in stone on it, so maybe a tenkeyless would be okay too

Either with or without no hard preference

>Previous/current keyboards
I had a keyboard with cherry mx blues but I ruined it a few months ago and have been using a cheap spare since. I liked the blues but I don't want the sound this time aroud so that's why I think I want to try browns.

Thank you anons!

>> No.58799166

United States
>Switch type
Red because muh gayming
>Form factor
Not 100% necessary but I don't mind them
>Current Keyboard
CM Storm Devastator (membrane)

Currently looking a the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid. Is that one good?

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try getting a board with gateron browns.
Muh gayming is not a reason to get a shit switch.

>> No.58799465

K underage,

>> No.58799508

my god, it's like loose teeth

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The power of realforce

>> No.58799924

Okay anon, gateron browns I will look for. Thank you for the reply

>> No.58799945

>Muh gayming is not a reason to get a shit switch.
then what do you recommend for people who play games, mx browns?

>> No.58799981


>don't care about switches

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>> No.58800057

All I can say is that you're gonna have to try for yourself. Ultimately, it shouldn't make too big of a difference unless you're a hardcore typist.

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bought a cherrry mx 6.0 for €100, how badly did i get ripped off

>> No.58800490
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Need some help here I'm looking for a very specific keyboard. I need tenkeyless with cherry MX blue I don't care if it has LEDs or whatever but it needs to have a flat base for easy cleaning like the pic I can not find a single keybord that matches this description please please help.

>> No.58800558

Not that guy, but there is far more personal-preference to switches than anyone on 4chan will ever admit.

Some people prefer red for typing, some people prefer blue for gaming. Buy what you want.

Personally, I have owned Red, Brown, Blue, Topre 55g, Model M, and a variety of rubberdome. I currently use the Topre 55g at home, and the Red switches (with o-rings) at work.

Now if you need fast double-tapping, then a light linear switch like Red is objectively best. However, I play shitloads of games, and the only time this has been an obvious difference to me is while playing Unreal Tournament since double-tap is dodging. I have had no issues playing anything else on everything from reds to buckling springs.

Having said that, IMO I think the best all around choice is Topre 45g. Not too light, not too heavy, actuates before you bottom out (unlike regular rubberdome), not too loud, suble tactile bump, keys will never develop chatter. The biggest problem with Topre 45g is that compared to Cherry or Model M, the typing experience is much closer to a cheap rubberdome. Although there are objective improvements, the subtlety means that the high cost of a Topre board doesn't feel worth it by comparison.

If I could go back and start all over, I would buy 2x Topre 45g (home, work) and be done with it.

>> No.58800605

Those are usually called "floating keys". Don't really know much about decent ones in order to give you a recommendation, but try searching around with that, or maybe some other anons can help.

>> No.58800607

If you want easy cleaning, just get a keyboard with floating keycaps (and there are plenty)
Perhaps a Magicforce could work.

>> No.58800705

thanks for the info didnt know the term still searching with no luck im finding a lot with knockoff cherry switches but none real blues

>> No.58800743

I have a cherry mx brown switch keyboard and I don't really like how the switches feel(they seem mushy and gritty). For my next keyboard im thinking of either gateron blues or browns. Are gateron browns different enough to get me to give browns a second shot or should I just go with the blues?

>> No.58800759

I think there are some gaming branded ones like that, but I don't really know if they're any good. Finding one with Cherry switches might be hard though. You can get a Magicforce, a Tomoko or a Noppoo Spyder Lolita for cheap, but I think they all have Kailh switches, except the Magicforce, which you can find with Gaterons. The Varmilo VA87MR also seems very close to what you're looking for, but I'm not sure where you can find one right now.

>> No.58800764

Looks kinda like a futa switch.

>> No.58800775

Gateron switches in general are a lot smoother than Cherry ones. Gateron blues are quite a bit louder than Cherry blues though, so you might want to stick to Gateron browns, which aren't rough like Cherry browns.

>> No.58800799

yeah the Varmilo VA87MR would be perfect but of course i can only find it on mass drop ;.;

>> No.58800817

So would you say that the two gaterons have the same feel but different sound? Or different feel too

>> No.58800835

Looks like you can buy them directly from the official Varmilo store on Taobao: https://world.tmall.com/item/531228425879.htm

You might need to use an agent, but it's an option if you don't want to wait for another possible GB on Massdrop.

>> No.58800863

You mean Gateron browns and blues? They're like the Cherry ones, with browns being tactile and blues being clicky, but they're smoother, and the Gateron blues are louder, but apart from that they technically work the same way.

>> No.58800864

lmfao I wish I could into runes I would be kinda scared about international shipping anyways probably expensive as hell although budget isnt really an issue.

>> No.58800883

The keyboard seems to be about $90-110, plus you'd pay probably up to $20 for shipping, which doesn't seem that expensive all things considered. You can use Google to translate the page, and I think there are agents that help you with that too.

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So anyone preorder the optical switch keyboard?

>> No.58801127

does such a thing exist?

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>> No.58801311

Most rubber domes are 2kro and people game on them just fine

>> No.58801344

I want this keyboard as soon as possible but I'm riding the delay train with Originative. Should I cancel my order and buy it from Taobao, or am I just better off waiting on Originative?

>> No.58801363

what is this?

>> No.58801565

move over rgb lighting the next big meme is here. Both Topre and Ducky are releasing analog switches. That keyboard pictured is the wooting with analog switches, which is up for pre-order

>> No.58801829

How are the reds with o rings? One of my prime complaints against reds is their lack of tactility as I'm used to bottoming out. Would reducing the travel distance help at all?

>> No.58802345

Reds are lighter then most rubber domes and using orings won't really help

>> No.58802447

Recommend a good wrist rest.for a keyboard.

>> No.58802471

Is the anne pro a decent first time keyboard? Poorfag from a third world country here so I can't really afford something too expensive.

>> No.58802497

Make one yourself out of dark walnut.

>> No.58802523

ALRIGHT I'm at a crossroads here. I have a decision between a Royal Kludge RC930 55g topre with new PBT keycaps OR I can buy a pack of MOD-M switches + keycap set and drastically improve my Corsair K65. Definitely enjoy the Corsair K65 look and style more, but since I have no direct comparison for Topre, all I can say is that I definitely like MX switches and would like more tactility.

Which one's more worth it in the long run?

>> No.58802852

>drastically improve my Corsair K65
it's still going to look like trash, but for some reason you like the edgy gamer look, so go for it I guess
I'd rather get the switches and an actually good keyboard

>> No.58802865

This one is quite decent and cheap: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/palm-rest/32695477602.html

>> No.58802876

There are cheaper ones if you want, but yeah, it's quite good, specially with Gateron switches, while some of the other cheaper options may have Kailh.

>> No.58802885

keyboard fedora

>> No.58802912

Topre clone ("plum" switches) y/n? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Noppoo-new-108-electrostic-capacitive-pro-mechanical-keyboard-topre-clone-switches-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap-detachable/2039433313.html

Also, is there any place I can score some blue alps outside of paying the ridiculous markup on ebay or getting lucky at a thrift shop?

>> No.58803007

Topre clones are breddy gudd. To my knowledge basically all Topre clones are made by the same people and just branded differently. Saw this from a while back, still available I think.


>> No.58803197

Thanks for the link. I might check that out. Not sure if I feel comfortable buying off of another user online though.

>> No.58803200

how the fuck would you ever play with 2 key roll over?
Want to crouch or sprint or jump or throw a grenade or switch weapons or do literally anything while moving diagonally? lol fuck you, too bad.

>> No.58803218

Just use Paypal. Just about everbody on there is legit.

>> No.58803237

Anyone that isn't wood? It doesn't fit my aethestics

>> No.58803925
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>seminario 7748

>> No.58803935

The one they like. Get a switch tester.

>> No.58803948

Use a rolled up towel. Wrist rests are bad for you.

>> No.58803957

>Not that guy, but there is far more personal-preference to switches than anyone on 4chan will ever admit.
Funny, normally you see people on here talking about how the whole "GAYMEN SWITCHESSSS" thing is a dumb meme and personal preference trumps all.

>> No.58804119

what keyboard should i get for my mom who is >60 and getting back into HR temporarily for ""Fun""

Apparently there is much more computer stuff required now days, she retired ~35 years ago.

I was thinking some ducky with brown keys or something but i havent thought too much about it. She has arthritis so something light with a nice silent click would be perfect.

I dont really want edgy black or bright white but what else is there?

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The lightest you will get is with gateron clears.

>> No.58804946

if you're still about anon, I got my VA86MR from http://shopkey.doyustudio.com/keyboard/varmilo.html

Shipped to switzerland in around a week.

>> No.58805021

Gonna be ALPs then. Try the Matias silenced click.

>> No.58805119

>look up topre keyboards on ebay
>just a topre key numpad alone starts at $150

>> No.58805471
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which canton are you from?

>> No.58805497

Basel Stadt. Why?

>> No.58805508
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Just curious, don't see other swissfags around here very often.
Bern here.

>> No.58805551

am not actually swiss, am britbong, been here 6 years, it's alright.

>> No.58805916

lmao how do you even work with these tiny keyboards without functional keys

do you only use them to write in word or what?

>> No.58805931

fn layers

don't be a retard and assume that keys can only do the one thing printed on them

>> No.58805950

i don't trust these guys

i ordered some cherry plate-mount stabs from them for a handwired build in november last year, they never gave me a tracking number or anything, the stabs never arrived and the order's been marked as "complete" on their website so i can't raise a complaint about it or anything.

>> No.58805982

Bamboozled! Sent from a 60% board :^)

>> No.58806020

Why TKL keyboards are more expensive than 100%. It doesn't make any sense.

>> No.58806036

are you comparing like to like?

>> No.58806055

I'm just saying that keyboards that require less materials and switches to be made are more expensive.

>> No.58806150

60% is what's "in" right now. It has more to due with demand than supply.

Same reason why an assembled kit keyboard is generally cheaper than the bare kit.

>> No.58806477

Are you comparing similar keyboards? You can get a 60% keyboard like a magiforce for under 40 bucks to over 1000 for some Korean custom

>> No.58806676

Did anyone order one of those new production model F keyboards? I am pretty tempted, but that will be my whole keyboard budget for a few years.

>> No.58806798

Well there is going to be one more production run and after that there will be no more. The factory in chyna will destroy the tooling. If you want a model F with better materials then the original go for it

>> No.58807072

an ergodox ez is far more expensive than building one, same for a gh60.

>> No.58807443

This one is available with reds: https://world.taobao.com/item/537653557670.htm

Should be the third option with no pictures (键盘→红轴白光)

>> No.58807921
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hi thread, please recommend a 100% keyboard with tactile switches for a neetwork engineer

i had a tkl and a 60% one which barely worked in BIOS, realized i absolutely hate memorizing tons of shortcuts for regular keys, and would rather use a comfy 100% one

>Location (continent at least) Russia
>Preferred switch type Blue, if its even more tactile i'd love that, haven't had a chance to try anything other than red, brown and blue
>Form factor
not necessary
>Previous/current keyboards
NEC PC-9800 one, anne pro, rapid-i


>> No.58808070

Filco Majestouch 2 with browns
WASD V2 with clears
Topre 104UB seems to be over your budget.

>> No.58808569

Should I go with Gateron browns or blacks?
I have mx blues now, and I fucking hate how clicky they are.

>> No.58808584

I'd go for browns personally.

>> No.58808974

Are Anne PROs any good? They seem a bit tacky but alright for the novelty. The lighting app they have is pretty cool, too.

>> No.58809018

That's because you have shit taste

>> No.58809021
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looking for heavy keycaps for my 60%. the ones that came with my keyboard are nice, but feel too light weight. any recommendations

>> No.58809151

Oh sorry didn't read properly. Substitute browns/clears with blues. Browns a shit.

>> No.58809295

on laptops, yes.
otherwise, nah.

>> No.58809420

where can I get a switch tester

>> No.58809469

Your chinkshit site of choice is probably the cheapest option.

>> No.58809560

Higher tech than regular Cherry MX-type switch. Higher build quality. Lower demand. Made in Japan. No clone truly replicate the typing experience.

>> No.58809619
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Never ending use since 1986 and still works... is Model /ourkeyboard/?

>> No.58809812

I've got a job

just no cool clothing, that comes next

>> No.58809957
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Should i clean the keycaps and stem or just the keycaps?

>> No.58810147
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You can get thicc PBT for cheap

>> No.58810975
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I _need_ to get enjoypbt Russian for my ISO Pok3r... does this exist?

If not, I'll just sell it and get the ANSI version (any takers?)

>> No.58811021

RAMA makes solid titanium keycaps, they're heavy

>> No.58811118

Are those PBT? The bottom looks a bit glossy. How cheap are they though? I'm looking for some thick cheap PBT caps, specially if blanks are available.

>> No.58811199

Get blank getron PBT for 40 bucks

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>> No.58811231

That doesn't sound that cheap when there are PBT NPKC sets on AliExpress for $25. Still, where can I find Gateron keycaps?

>> No.58811253

Do Corsair legends wear off?

I'm not as concerned about the shine. Speaking of which maybe I should just go for ducky shine

>> No.58811277

You're trying to decide between those two? Why the fuck would you even consider a Corsair keyboard?

>> No.58811281

Corsair's legends do wear off over time, new Ducky's won't because they're doubleshot keycaps.

>> No.58811304

Nice media controls and I like how the lighting works, shines brighter and clearer

It's just hard to imagine after all these years Corsair could sell something so shittily

>> No.58811365

I was looking at a store in america that has them with standard free 2 -7 day shipping. If you don't live in america then get them from aliexpress

>> No.58811380

It looks like trash, and you can have media controls under secondary functions on keyboards from Ducky and Cooler Master, with the bonus of not looking like edgy gamer shit. If you need software to customize LEDs then get a MasterKeys.

>> No.58811398

Ducky has programmable media keys so you can move then where ever you want. I put all mine on the numpad.

>> No.58811457

I've searched around AliExpress before but couldn't find any Gateron keycaps. Most of the decent ones seems to be NPKC sets, or EnjoyPBT from Taobao, and I can't find much else. There are Gateron keycap sets on MechanicalKeyboards, but the international shipping there is way too expensive.

>> No.58811522
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Corsair has a common issue with LEDs dying, but they did fix it on the new K70 lux, but Ducky's implementation is still better since they use two separate PCBs for the LEDs and the switches. Only the new Ducky keyboards have software support, but I can't stand how ugly they look

>> No.58811628
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If you want thicc PBT massdrop has these ones right now and they come in cherry profile too

You can compare them to the black Filco keycaps

>> No.58811734

Those really look thicc. According to the description, they're NPKC, so they might be the same ones being sold on AliExpress. They're like $25-30 there, but they have free shipping, so I'll probably get them there instead of Massdrop.

>> No.58811747

>we need more pixel, son

>> No.58811803

Those floating low-profile keycaps are fucking weird.

>> No.58811865

The newer Cooler Master keyboards also have a separate PCB for LEDs and have software support in addition to still being able to customize things on the keyboard itself, so it's a pretty good alternative.

>> No.58811965

What's that antenna on the right

>> No.58812015

I'm gonna guess for your mouse cable.

>> No.58812046

Anyone know how easy returns are on mechanicalkeyboards.com?

Looking to switch a keyboard for another, it's easy as heck on Amazon with just a $5 shipping charge

>> No.58812100
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Anyone know where I can get low profile keycaps like the Tesoro?

>> No.58812136

There is not reason not to go rgb if you want a back light
Unless you dont like options because someone will call you a meme on the internet

>> No.58812938
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>alps keysets non-existent

>> No.58813007
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Alpine Winter

>> No.58813335

>What is unnecessary cost?

>> No.58813376

From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

>> No.58813408
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there are plenty anon from the cheap ones like all the tai-hao sets to some DCS and DSA sets like light cycle which should be dropping sone

>> No.58813450
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Ducky is selling some right now on massdrop

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My regular Shine 6 came with the full size keycaps from the YOTM edition for some reason, which was a nice surprise.

Also came with a voucher for a free set of PBT keycaps.

Pretty happy with it so far.

>> No.58813548

It's a shame the keyboard isn't fully RGB because if they had options other then a solid back light I would have bought one

>> No.58813577

>Also came with a voucher for a free set of PBT keycaps.
That's because they advertised the keyboard with PBT keycaps, but they changed them to ABS last minute. I guess they didn't want to get in trouble or something

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I can't say I wouldn't mind full RGB either, but I feel like having full RGB at the top would look it too much like some chink gaming board. I like the unique aesthetic it has with the RGB case and the white light on top.

>> No.58813689

Its made by Ducky so it already is a chink gayming board

>> No.58813695
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Just finished cleaning it up :^)

>> No.58813741
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I guessed as much. Can't complain though, the board that I'm replacing with this one was also a ducky, they make good keyboards, nice to see them do interesting things with keyboard rice.

>> No.58813743


blues on my ducky are actually sort of getting in the way of gaymen

looks like browns are what i actually needed

>> No.58813873

Did you piss on the keyboard? The model M case is made from PVC and it shouldn't yellow that badly.

>> No.58813912

learn how to take pictures please

>> No.58813933

Also curious, would someone be able to point me in the direction of ISO keys for EnjoyPBT?

>> No.58813975


>> No.58813994

Any quick rundowns on how to take a phone photo?

>> No.58814042
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Its from '86 so that mught have something to do with it, i need one of those hex screwers so i can open the thing and fucking boil the case

>> No.58814050

You're a godsend, I'm disappointed that they're not marked though. :/

>> No.58814111

NPKC also has PBT iso enters that are in the same profile as EnjoyPBT, but they don't sell them independently, its a $3 add on to the set

>> No.58814290

>gateron brown
>shit taste
so what are your favorite switches?

>> No.58814342

Have any of yee bought GH60 kits from aliexpress?
Are they worth it or is it better to order GH60 PCB from ebay and buy the parts separately

>> No.58814365

Topre is a waste of money

>> No.58814366

Just get the plate and case then hand wire the whole thing together

>> No.58814369

either parts or falbatech.

>> No.58814500

those keyboards were a waste of money back then compared to their rubber dome counterparts and they still are.

>> No.58814508

Razer Ornata switches are the best and less than $100 for their board

>> No.58814517

I got my BTC 5100C for £10 lol...

>> No.58814525

so shall i order the PCB from falbatech and the case/plate/gateron switches/ stabilisers from ebay?

>> No.58814594
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Just got a new keyboard! What does /mkg/ think?

>> No.58814637


Is the Magicforce 68 with MX reds any good for 75€?

>> No.58814639


>> No.58814645

she looks like she smells bad

>> No.58814662

I do not!

>> No.58814665

How does /mkg/ feel about buying a Dell AT101W ?

>> No.58814670

Try to get it with Gateron reds instead, which is cheaper and better than Cherry. It's not that expensive though, considering the one with Gaterons is $62.

>> No.58814768

It a solid keyboard and better then all the chink shit out there

>> No.58814818

Black alps don't feel that great.

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What keyboard is this?

>> No.58814876

I'm interesed because I can have it linear or tactile without having to buy a new one.

>> No.58814944

ajazz AK33?

i think

>> No.58815399
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About to go for the plunge and buy a set of Cyrillic EnjoyPBTs, those who oppose... speak now!

>> No.58815425

>BTC is only 90% as good as Topre

>> No.58815480
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just do it

>> No.58815489

ruskaboo pls go

>> No.58815514
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They don't look as good as the OriginativeCo ones.

>> No.58815529

What are the NPKC PBT caps from ali like? Is there much of a different feel/look to them compared to ABS?

>> No.58815531

chuvak no u

>> No.58815540

wut? they're both made by gateron lol

>> No.58815558

"The set is newly manufactured by GMK in Germany with the original Cherry equipment. GMK is known for using high quality materials to ensure longevity in its products.

This is created with Cherry’s original double-shot molding equipment using the highest quality ABS plastic."

>> No.58815578

As long as the EnjoyPBTs won't fade (at least for a long time) then I don't think I can really justify the difference in cost...

>> No.58815579

"The Modern Beige is a mix of modern and retro style keycaps. Using bold and bright legends, Mod Keyboards was able to show their work through their dye-subbing job. The beige is true to the classic colors.

The keycaps are molded by Gateron. The quality of the PBT is one of the more higher quality that is done producing thick Cherry Profile."

>> No.58815586

oh their website still lists gateron, but if its gmk then that means the sub legends are some of the worst pad printed keycaps out there for high end keycaps

>> No.58815602

You're looking at a different item.


>> No.58815608

how pleb am i for actually liking the G710?

what if anything would i gain from getting anything else?

>> No.58815634

ah, they have new stuff

it's difficult to tell what originative have available sometimes, they just add and remove product variants at whim without posting about it

>> No.58815656
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Well I prefer a more minimalist look of something like a Ducky One. The nice thing about ducky is that the media keys are programmable so I moved them all to the numpad on layer 2

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These ones and >>58815514 are double shot with the Cyrillic pad printed on red, then glazed.

>> No.58815690
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EnjoyPBT's Cyrillic keys are purely pad printed.

>> No.58815703

fug, how hours of use might they last for then?

>> No.58815711

they're dyesub idiot

>> No.58815787

Oh, guess I misread then.

>> No.58815788

New thread guys, please keep the memes to a maximum

>> No.58815988

What would you guys think of me getting a cm storm quickfire rapid? Would it be a good replacement for magicforce which has switches dying? I plan on getting cherry mx browns.

>> No.58816109


>when you bought a Tada with meme MOD M switches for $145 and was forced to spend $15 on "priority shipping" and it hasn't even shipped yet
>should've just bought it off Taobao with Gateron Blues.

Please tell me these meme switches will actually be worth it. I feel like a dumbass right now.

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