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>Headphone purchase advice

Please put some effort into your requests and questions.

If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:

>> No.58775394
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First for Master Race

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is this a real audio player or just something made in a prop department?

>> No.58775701

>shilling plebbit
>shilling your own shitty yt channel

>> No.58775768
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Sony voice recorder

>> No.58775795

thanks. looks pretty cool

>> No.58775948
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I got dt770s pro 250Ω and I'm just wondering whether or not I need to buy an amp for them, or replace them for a lower impedance model i.e. 80Ω ? They sound alright for metal and such music (250Ω w/o amp that is), but I'm curious since I'm not impedance savvy.

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>> No.58776344

I don't think you get the meme
he's bashing those things

>> No.58776352


>> No.58776506

what's wrong with z reviews

>> No.58776597

Hello, Steven C.

>> No.58776682

It alters the voltage sensitivity between the models. It's more likely that you need an amplifier if you choose one of the higher impedance models because you will need more power(voltage) to drive them. The impedance alone doesn't tell you anything important about the requirement for amplification. And even if you know the headphone's voltage sensitivity, the answer to you question depends on how much power is your current gear able to provide as much as the load. If you don't want to worry about the amplification, get one of the low impedance versions.

>> No.58776767

That guy is so utterly retarded to record how the headphones sound and upload the videos. Also, it's more of a shill than an actual reviewer since he praises everything he touches.

>> No.58776911

he rambles on endlessly without really saying anything, theres no insight to what he says, he never has a point. and he doesn't like my favorite headphones

>> No.58776959
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What's the longest coiled headphone cable out there? Either 1/4" or 3.5mm, ideally male-to-male.

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A friend is coming back from Japan on Monday and he's bringing me a pair of IdolMasters. Can't wait! Anyone own a pair?

>> No.58777117

this is funny

>> No.58777186

Riina is shit.

>> No.58777255

is SONY MDR-7506 still worth picking up in 100$ price range or is there a better choice?

>> No.58777391

check op for purchase advice

>> No.58777396

I'm letting my shure 535 meme-in at the moment.

The box was made to make sure you cant return them in bought condition. Real jew move.
And the stock earplugs are on there really fucking hard, was afraid I'd break them.

>> No.58777850

Watching movies and listening to music is pretty much it. Also if cables are detachable, it would be better if they were easy to disconnect, but not super loose.

At the most $110 dollars
United States
My phone(Samsung Galaxy S7 edge). (On a side note the, I both do and don't regret falling for the samshit edge meme)
>Type of headphone
Any kind that is comfy, won't make me look like an autist, good (sound and build) quality for the price range, and Definitely IEM and not over or on-ear
>Comfort level
Has to be Pretty comfy, will be wearing them for long periods of time.
>Sound signature
Not really sure, I'm a newbie audiophile. If there are any you would recommend, go right on ahead.
>Past headphones
My SE215 IEMS just broke because even after doing what the site said, the cord ripped because I can't muster up 20 to 30 pounds of force to pull off the cords properly so I could clean them; also before that I just had a series of shitty skullcandy earbuds

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Tell me I did good /g/. My ameriburgers are depleted.

>> No.58778040

Dude you're not a little girl you're a grown man. Stop embarassing your poor parents

>> No.58778493

prob another se215
alternatively, e10

>> No.58778546

Kinda depends on what you're doing with them. Use them exclusively at home? Go for 250 or 600 and buy the Shiit stack or something.

I got the 80Ohm variety because I sometimes use them on the train/plane or when I'm in the computer lab in my University and don't want to carry an amplifier with me.

When I went to the store to check them out I didn't hear any difference between the 250 and 80 variety but don't know exactly how they were powered (music came from an iMac but cables were hidden so no idea about DAC/amps).

Not an audiophile though, so ymmv.

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What do amps do for headphones that don't require one to drive them?

Will it give more volume/bass?

>> No.58778742

more volume, yes
more bass, if they're bad

>> No.58778751

plz respond

>> No.58778788

I own a 250 ohm pair and you will most assuredly need an amp.

My phone can drive them to decent levels but the sound quality just isn't the same compared to my E10K. The high end especially suffers, cymbals sound like total ass. Whereas amped they are the best headphones I've owned.

>> No.58778792

do you really need more than 20 feet?

>> No.58778814

Cool, thanks.

>> No.58778927

>What do amps do for headphones that don't require one to drive them?
All headphones need an amp. I highly doubt you're running headphones only off a true DAC, so your mobo/soundcard will have an amp. DAC out will probably fuckin kill your ears/headphone drivers unless you have a fairly inefficient headphone.

>Will it give more volume/bass?
Volume, likely, though depends on what you're coming from. If your current amp is already powering your headphones, probably not bass. A higher quality amp may tighten up the sound as a whole, but not because it's a stronger amp or anything, just that it's better than your old one. Differences between amps generally aren't hugely significant anyway.

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>> No.58778992

About €150
The Netherlands
Phone, Laptop, PC.
>Type of headphone
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
Comfy AF (But Quality is more important)
>Sound signature
Neutral or Bassy.
>Past headphones
Steelseries Flux

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>> No.58779046


How good are these?

>> No.58779138
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Just got this for 100€, some reviews say they are uncomfortable but I haven't found them that way so far, a bit too bassy but might be because I'm used to the bass-less ath-ad700.

>> No.58779193

What's the point of this meme? Is it that the size of headphones are important too? I've always found headphones really uncomfortable, I have a big head and they always clamp my head like a fucker until it hurts. What should I do?

>> No.58779244

get headphones that clamp less
stretch the headband

>> No.58779249
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I'm just using pic related with an iphone 6s plus and a shitty 6 year old laptop.

Can't seem to get the volume I want. Even a cheap amp is going to outperform an iphone right?

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Did i do good

>> No.58779340

How do I find a good pair of headphones that don't clamp? I'm no audiophile, I just want them to sound alright and not hurt.

>> No.58779358

Get the Superlux HD661 if you want a cheap not as comfortable clone.

Otherwise get the NVX XPT100/AKG K553/DT770 instead.

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Are the ath m40x with brainwavz hm5 pads as comfy as Sennheiser 558? I have the 558s and I'm looking for a new pair of closed headphones because I'm tired of open, but comfort is a big issue for me. The 558 is only pair of headphones I've tried that I can wear literally all day and feel no pain or fatigue. Anyone have any idea on the comfy rating of the m40x with hm5 pads compared to the 558?

>> No.58779396

mate why did you take that turtle out of his shell

you might want to consider just getting hm5/xpt100 rather than m40x with the pads

m40x/m50x have quite a lot of clamp, so you'll have some discomfort from taht most likely

>> No.58779404

>Superlux HD661
I was under the impression the 661's were a clone of another headphone.

Anything to confirm they're 7506 clones?

>> No.58779427

No because of the M series clamp pressure. Then again you could try stretching out the headband. HM5 pads will help a lot in the comfort of the M40x as the stock earpads are garbage.

If you want a comfortable closed headphone around the same price get the Brainwavz HM5/NVX XPT100. They're not nearly as portable as the M40x are though.

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I'd like to add that I'm looking for more of a bassy sound. From what I've read, the xpt100 lean more towards neutral than bassy. Any recommendations?

>> No.58779464

xpt100/hm5 are the best bassy headphones in the ~100$ range
if you don't mind treble also, which I doubt, have a look at dt770
but I think hm5/xpt100 will suit you fine

it definitely has more bass than m40x

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Thanks, friend. Last question. Is there a difference in sound between leather/velour hm5 pads or are they purely preference?

>> No.58779507

not directly ofcourse, but because of the different seals they'll have, yes.

basically, leather = more bass

>> No.58779551

Just got a SHP9500 and it's making a buzzing sound on the left.
Is there some way to fix this? (Help me guys, even if I ask for a refund, I already paid taxes, about 65U$ dollars, that I won't get back, and if I order another one, I risk paying it again!)

Also, the right side is louder than the left side.
Yes, I did tested it in multiple devices and the problem persists.

>> No.58779580

Sounds like a busted pair.

>> No.58779658

What can I do? I'm desperate.
This shit was about 127$ total (welcome to Brazil hueland)

>> No.58779682

They sound amazing but holy fuck they fit terribly. The headband is too loose and fully extends everytime and even with it fully extended it's still too small unless you have a baby head. I had to use rubber bands so that my ears don't touch the pads. Also the cable is stiff at some parts while flexible at others, pretty poor quality.

>> No.58779700

you need an amp, most motherboards have one built in if you don't want to fall for the dac meme.

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I managed to get one of these at a reasonable price($40)...holy crap bluetooth is amazing. I seriously don't give a fuck about what other people think about me when I wear a retarded neck piece all day but it's convenient/comfy. I can't imagine 5 years from now when this becomes more popular. The base is rich and present but not overpowering, and the mids and highs are well balanced with no distortion even at higher volumes.

>> No.58779857

As high as one should go before hitting diminishing returns / paying for snakeoil

Washington DC

Sound Blaster ZxR

>Type of headphone
Whatever headphone that is fun to listen to and has a big soundstage. I like colored sound and I'll get an amp if it's required

>Open or closed

>Comfort level
My current headphones make the tips of my ears scab so I straight up don't care

>Sound signature
I play a lot of gaymes that need accurate positioning/multichannel downsampling, so whatever works well with that. I also listen to a lot of bass-heavy music but I also love high treble as you can see from my previous headphones.

>Past headphones
Grado SR325i
Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro (current)

Loved the sound signature of these until they started breaking

>> No.58779954

Desperate bump.

>> No.58779957

Just out of curiosity, is there any real difference between Grado's i and e series?
I have the SR325is from 2011, sometimes considered the RS1 or 2es.

>> No.58779979

>or replace them for a lower impedance model [80 ohm]
The obvious difference boils down to sensitivity difference of around 10 log(250/80) dB, 4-5 dB.
>They sound alright for metal and such music
Loud enough? Then don't bother with the amp.

>true DAC
It's more likely there's a D/A stage in between the music content that otherwise in this day and age.
We've long since gone past the point where motherboards have integrated sound.
>DAC out will probably fuckin kill your ears/headphone drivers unless you have a fairly inefficient headphone.
Gain structure.

>Even a cheap amp is going to outperform an iphone right?
No. The 6S isn't that weak as far as smartphones are concerned.

Buzzing is a mechanical issue.
Check the driver for hairs, dirt, etc.

>> No.58780013

I literally just got it out of the box.
Well, if it is a mechanical issue, it means it must have a fix. That's better.

>> No.58780031

It's quite subjective so you have only one option: try them out. Go to stores which have them at display(for good models you can ask us with the template in the OP) and/or order from stores with a good return policy.

>> No.58780075

Careful or you might upset one of the resident anti-wireless, anti-new technology shitposters. The treble mode on those is really good.


>> No.58780128

return it

>> No.58780137


>> No.58780181

I already paid 60% of taxes (I love Brazil, hue).
Even if I return it, I can't get the taxes and the shipment money back.

>> No.58780197

Hey /hpg/, I'm thinking about getting about getting the SE215 IEMs but I'm wondering if I should get the SE215LTD. Or should I just get the Clear SE215. I have used the clear ones from late 2015 and they were great and they still work fine, but I used some black ones from late 2016 and they broke after about 3 months.

>> No.58780198

Perhaps. Nice headphones in their own right but desperately need EQ.

All headphones need some source device to drive them that provides current. Most of the time with modern electronics it's a simple amplifier circuitry after a DA-converter stage embedded on to the same chip with low output impedance.

Amplifier's purpose is in the name: it amplifies the signal and this results into louder volume. A good amplifier will not alter the signal in any other way so no, you don't get more bass with a more powerful amplifier or whatever.

If you use a potent headphone amplifier with a pair of high sensitivity headphones, you end up using only a small part of the volume control. Pretty unintuitive, potentially dangerous for your ears and headphones if you turn the volume knob into 11 and at high attenuation most volume pots have audible channel imbalance.

>> No.58780222

Well you're fucked then. Time to move to a non-shithole.

>> No.58780232

>order from stores with a good return policy.
Stores with good return policies shouldn't accept returns of headphones due to hygiene. Headphone returns is revolting.

All stores should have restocking fees when the seal is broken. Too many people abuse the hell out of return policies.

>> No.58780236

Thanks for the replies, anons. You've convinced me to try and save some money and go for something better then the 9500's.

>> No.58780321

Heck, I'll even open them if needed.

>> No.58780329

The problem with that is I can only really tell that it hurts after an hour or more of continuous wear. It seems the only thing to do is buy them and hope for the best.

>> No.58780343

Any thoughts about the AKG K712 Pro in relation to the DT990?

>> No.58780437

I need a new set of headphones for my computer, need them primarily for gaming so i mic needs to be included or built in

100-130 dollars
>Type of headphone
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
Really Comfy
>Sound signature
The best
>Past headphones
I had a pair of turtle beach x12s I've had for like 5 years, it recently stopped playing sound from the left side

>> No.58780454

I'm getting tired of waiting for another HD 6XX drop. The HD 600 is $299 on Amazon right now. Do I jump on it? Or should I wait to pick up an HD 650 for the same price? I'm not sure which one I would rather have.

>> No.58780457

try to sell it to some other retarded nigger then get a new one

>> No.58780539

Kek. I was just thinking about doing that.

>> No.58780552

Audio noob here. Got a 100 euro gift card for amazon.
Currently considering either marshall major 2 or sony MDR-ZX770BN.
I think I will like the sound of the marshall and the reviews look good but the sony looks more comfy(over ear). Both are wireless.
Currently have a brandless shitty on ear of 15 eur and before that I had a steelseries siberia v2 which I liked.

>> No.58780557

hyperx cloud 1 (not 2, it's worse) if you really need a built in mic
otherwise dt770 with a zmmic1 or a desk mic

>> No.58780565

Use is for music through oneplus 3t or pc

>> No.58780567

marshall is a shit choice for headphones since they piggyback off their amp success.
check OP for purchase advice

>> No.58780575

So, are amps basically only for volume? When I plug my DT990 600Ohm into my amp, I literally have to keep the volume knob a few millimeters of a turn from 0 or my ears start bleeding.

I really have to start reading up on the technology and not just falling for every consumerist meme there is.

>> No.58780602

My 6 yr old pair of HFI-580s had one side go out.

For everything needed to repair it, would cost like 30 max, where as to find a place and have it repaired would probably be closer to 60-80.
Has anyone did a 3.55 repair here? Is it a pain in the ass?

>> No.58780722

>So, are amps basically only for volume?
Yes, that's their purpose but a good amp can have some other benefits over a crappy one(lower noise, quality volume pot, low output impedance etc).
>I literally have to keep the volume knob a few millimeters of a turn from 0
Sounds like a pretty powerful amp. Those are quite insensitive headphones. Or you have sensitive hearing.
>I really have to start reading up on the technology
Always a good thing. Try to understand it, not just take someone else's word for it like majority here seem to do.

>> No.58780909

>I'm getting tired of waiting for another HD 6XX drop
It's not going to happen

>> No.58781006


Love these headphones, but my amp is busted and I've been too lazy to send it back in to get fixed. Maybe today...

>> No.58781126

If you want sound-stage then the AKG K7 series headphones are right up your alley. Not sure if they are as v-shaped as the DT990 though. If you want the most colored one check out the K7XX.

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Someone in a previous thread commented that i did not infact need an amp with these IEMs and i did not see it until the thread was archived!

Indeed he is right as these are quite sensitive and works great with lower power sources like smartphones and what have yous.
What he forgot or most likely ignored is the fact that headphone jacks on stationary computers are mostly pure dogshit with frontpanel outs running inside the case next to powercables giving of distortion to the signals.
80% of why anyone would use stuff like the Fulla 2 or Odac is getting around these issues, as is why i went this setup!

>> No.58781147

Hello /hpg/. I listen to classical music and compose it too, it is important to me that I'm able to tell very small changes in pitch and timbre, the problem is my budget isn't very much. I have never owned any headphones worth mentioning before.

50$ is a fixed ceiling for me
Czech republic, EU
PC, laptop
>Type of headphone
>Open or closed
doesn't matter that much, prefer closed
>Comfort level
want comfort, not at the expense of sound quality
>Sound signature
>Past headphones

I would appreciate your help very much, thanks.

>> No.58781174

looking for neutral studio monitors under 300 (a way under is fine, too)

>> No.58781336

superlux 662 evo

>> No.58781401

hd600/he400i, you'll need an amp tho

>> No.58781652
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Hey /hpg/, I need your help. I'm using my shitty laptop with my passive speakers connecting it to my amp via AUX. Will be there noticeable difference in sound if I will send signal through headphone Amp/DAC? Looking at FiiO K1 at the moment.

>> No.58782049
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I'm in the market for a new pair of headphones since my sennheiser HD448's broke.

What's a good neutral set of headphones I can use for mixing/mastering?

Trying to spend $300-$400

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>> No.58782227

could you recommend some open headphones in the same budget range as well?

>> No.58782247


>> No.58782330

see >>58781401

>> No.58782361

Thanks, Any suggestions for Audio interfaces?
I plan on plugging headphones and a midi keyboard into it. An audio interface would serve the same purpose as an amp, correct?

>> No.58782371

What is your opinion on the JVC HA-RX 700? Paid 50 euro for them 2 years ago. Wondering if there's something better in that price range.

>> No.58782417

well fuck you then i hope you die from cancer you little cunt i bet you live with your mom and your dad left you after he found out you are such a piece of shit

>> No.58782447

HD681 Evo with a couple of simple mods, HD668b for fuckoff massive soundstage.

>> No.58782473

what do you mean by 'mods'? where can i read more about it?

>> No.58782496

it's bright as shit and has a bass boost

681 evo is literal garbage but don't know about any mods

>> No.58782545
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So I'm looking to buy some HM5 earpads. They seem like a good deal for $25. But there's also sheepskin versions for $40.

Is there any noticeable difference for the $15 extra?

>> No.58782562

what would you recommend?

>> No.58782565

Those mods, the PDF covers pretty much the entire process and includes measurements of multiple variations of each step.

Tons of other headphones and modifications on there as well.

>> No.58782601

if you absolutely have to have an open one, 681 or shp9500

>> No.58782688

HD600 and an e10k amp. Done.

>> No.58782711

No. They might be a bit more durable in the long run, but that's it. The normal hm5 pads are god mode and will be more comfortable than leather anyway.

>> No.58782726

you're just trying to justify $100 of wasted money. Fact is that you can't tell the difference between Fulia and and onboard with those IEMs. If you had something that requires 250Ohms, Fulia would be good.

Do a fucking A/B test and see for yourself. If I were you, I'd just sell that Fulia and put the $100 towards something useful.

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>> No.58782773

>using IEMs

You're a strange fella

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SACD collection

>> No.58782883

Thank you for the response, one last question, I found Presonus HD7 and it looks nice, what do you think?

>> No.58782953

new HM5 pads have a smaller opening for your ear to rest in.

Get the NVX XPT100 pads from ebay if you want to stay around the same price.

Once you begin looking at the lambskin hm5's, you may as well look at the zmf lamb skin pads or alpha dog lamb skin pads. as they're not that much more expensive.

>> No.58782958

Leather pads breathe better than artificial leather pads. They won't get as sweaty/hot when wearing them for an extended amount of time, especially in the hotter weather.

Sonically, I don't think there is much of a difference, afaik.

>> No.58782993

seems like a clone

>> No.58783013

Superlux rebrand, not entirely sure if it's the 668 or 681.

>> No.58783043

At what price do headphone amps start to outperform an iphone?

>> No.58783085

iphone has a pretty strong amp

price isn't a measurement of quality

>> No.58783151

Is the OP implying that the X2 are bad headphones?

>> No.58783184

Probably 668B since I was recommmended those when I wanted a bassier 681 and was given Samson SR950 or Presonus HD7

>> No.58783212

What're the best cheap closed back niggbass headphones?

>> No.58783254

Sony XB950

>> No.58783354

Get a Fidelio X2 or a DT880 premium special edition. If you don't have an amp go with the X2 if you do then either one. The HD600 isn't worth the extra cost over those 2.

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Anyone know how this compares to HD558, HD598, etc.?

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>Budget around
around 100-150 USD
phone, desktop, laptop
>Type of headphone
Full sized, circumaural
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
need to be able to wear all day
>Sound signature

I'm looking for a headphone with a removable 3.5mm cable or possibly modifiable to use a 3.5mm cable with an adapter or something.

>> No.58783595

Most decent headphones do not have an inline mic. So I doubt it compares well.

>> No.58783638


Haven't tried HD558/HD598 yet but I got the HD461G and they are pretty ok. I'm not an audiophile or an expert but I like the sound, they are mega light and comfy and the mic/controls work perfect with my Android phone. Decent headphones for work/on the bus.

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Thanks for the info, guys. While looking at the NVX XPT100 pads I stumbled on these Status Audio CB-1's. Are they any good for a sub $100 headphone?

>> No.58783723


>> No.58783793

Superlux HD 669/Samson SR950

>> No.58783800

>Fact is that you can't tell the difference between Fulia and and onboard with those IEMs. If you had something that requires 250Ohms, Fulia would be good.
I bet you think you are being smart.

>> No.58783818

can you rate the t5p's>?
also the ue900's

>> No.58783841

>butthurt retard
faggot, you referenced a fucking dead thread when ppl told you you're a fucking idiot. you were so butthurt. and now, you can't even accept the fact that Fuila doesn't do shit to your IEMs and you're making up excuses.

stay butthurt and retarded!

>> No.58783855

Please be bait. I'm not the anon who has that setup and I'd never put money on SE846 but you are being a complete idiot.

>> No.58783873

I have this and like it more than my SMSL amp.

>> No.58783918

>Status Audio CB-1's
Really not sure but considering there's a review on amazon saying they're amazing with a picture of them hanging beside an LCD(not sure which headphone version) and a Fidelio X2. They might be good. The earpads look pretty comfortable so I doubt you would need the NVX/brainwavz pads for them.

NVX XPT100's can be had for the same price as the CB-1's, and I can recommend those.

>> No.58783957
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Lg g4
>Type of headphone
Something relatively portable.
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
Moderately high
>Sound signature
>Past headphones
I've had sennheiser momentum Iems for on the go and I have X2s for home listening.

I recently lost the Iems and I'm just about done with earphones becuase I always fucking loose them. Call me a sperg or whatever but I won't lose headphones as easily. I was thinking about the Momentum 2s.
Thoughts on these or others?

>> No.58783958

Be sure to listen to shijou.moe/imas-radio on them.

>> No.58784013

Oh and over ear is a necessity

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>> No.58784119

Is there a reason to buy hm5 pads with the xpt100? It looks like it already comes with hm5 pads on it in a video I saw. What's the difference?

>> No.58784137

hm5 is the real deal
xpt100 is a clone & has one pair of pads less (iirc the hm5 has flat pleather & angled pleather & xpt100 only has flat)

supposedly the xpt100 has been having quality control issues lately, so if you want to be safe, pay the extra for hm5

>> No.58784212

Never seen them before but they look nice. Either get those or the h5's, which are amazing imo.

>> No.58784213

>outperform an iphone
Voltage output is 1 Vrms, fairly stable and linear at full output w/ loads above ~30 ohms as with most other iPhone models.
It had a lower noise floor but was somewhat more susceptible to interference than the other iPhones.

The first question is how much louder do you want it to be?

>xpt100 is a clone
These are OEM headphones sold through various brands. There are many other brands the same headphone have been sold through over the years.

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what headphones are these?

>> No.58784300

Stupid question that isn't in the FAQ,
How do you deal with WASAPI or ASIO drivers taking exclusive control of the audio? If I have a game open or music playing through the browser, the audio player won't work unless I restart both programs.

I don't really feel like buying a portable device atm

I'm using musicbee if that matters

>> No.58784309

Good amp for my Hd700, 200 euros max, EU.

>> No.58784353
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Help me replace my Scarlet focusrite 2i2
all i need is XLR left right for my Rokit 6"

>> No.58784462

There is Objective2 +ODAC for 215 euro on headandhifi.com. Amp only is 140 eur.
Choose Weekly Priority Mail RoW if you will order because no tax.

>> No.58784496
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I had a Senheiser HD 202 II which I loved so much I destroyed, its wires don't work anymore.
Now I want to go wireless, what wireless phone has a similar quality and a decent price?

>Budget: $50~$100
>Location: Brazil
>Source: my PC.
>Type of headphone: Full-size
>Open or closed: No preference
>Comfort level:
>Past headphones Senheiser HD 202 II

>> No.58784545

>I destroyed

>> No.58784809

SHP9500 with a bluetooth receiver.

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woops, meant dt770

>> No.58784890

What's the best dac nowadays under $100?
or a dac/amp combo.

>> No.58784909


Philips SHP9500

thank me later.

Either that, or in-ear monitors.

>> No.58784925

>detachable cable
Jesus Christ, I'm such a newfag I didn't even know this existed and now I love this feature. Thank you anon, you're the best.

>> No.58784951

No combo required though, as I have bookshelf speakers I need a new amp for as well. RCA out is best.

>> No.58784973

meant for >>58784890

>> No.58784988


buy local next time?

>> No.58785030
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contact Philips directly. maybe their customer service can help.

>> No.58785069

some shitty sounding headphones right there. literally meme quality. I sent mine back and got grados.

>> No.58785191

You don't know a thing about this shithole called Brazil, do you?
If I were to buy it on a local store (still not officially, since the 9500 ins't available here) it would cost me around R$500 (that's about 150 USD)

I'll try.

I'm no audio expert, but I think they're pretty good. Also extremely comfy as expected. Unfortunately, my pair is faulty, but I don't see anyone else with the same problem, so I was just an unlucky motherfucker.

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>bluetooth receiver.

never knew these existed...

>> No.58785281


I have both.

I agree that Grado is better, but Grados have less bass and cost a lot more. The 9500's are still really good @ the $55 price point they've been selling at.

>> No.58785307

What are some good and cheap headphones with detachable cables?

>> No.58785440

You get a grado sr80e for $90, then eq it and you have the perfect headphones.

shp 9500 are meme tier

>> No.58785662

is it acceptable to wear these in public? i might buy one

>> No.58785672

So I just bought some SHP9500S. I have a replacement wire from my old headphones since people said that was a problem, but these are my first open back headphones.

I'm really curious though, how audible will porn I'm watching be to people outside of my room? I usually keep it quiet but it's a concern none the less.

>> No.58785798

put them on your desk and go stand outside your room

>> No.58785817

I don't have them yet. I ordered them about an hour ago, but I'll give that a try once they get here.

>> No.58785863

Z reviews says the shp9500 r good. R they actually good

>> No.58785928

they are not 7506 clones. I've got both and fucking hate the superluxes. Mod after mod after mod and even new pads and those things are absolutely awful to wear, build quality somehow feels worse than $20 and the sound is OK. Semi open back is terrible for outside use and the coil cable of 7506 is ass to deal with in general but at least they're comfortable and sound proper

>> No.58785940

>Z reviews

>> No.58786002

I guess thats a no.

>> No.58786214

Zeos knows more than you faggots ever will you are all just jumping the hate train cause youre jeleous pretty petty tbqhfamilia

>> No.58786234

Shut up Zeos.

>> No.58786317

>Zeos knows more than you faggots ever will
The man who preaches about balanced cables and burn in knows more than me? I'm sure.

Though I won't deny I am absolutely jealous that I don't get to be a fat fuck and record myself talking mindlessly about headphones for a living.

>> No.58786348
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Best budget headphones coming through.

>> No.58786379

Are they really. I want them and zeos says they are really good do i buy

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That all depends on what you like, anon. Just don't expect them to be bass-heavy.

>> No.58786533

Im not a nigger. And ive never owned good headphones so idk what i like. I liked my gaymer steelseries siberia v2. I disliked my razer kraken gaymer shit

>> No.58786806 [DELETED] 

Please buy these, anon; I promise you won't regret it. I spent $200 on a Siberia 650 before realizing a pair of $50 headphones beat it out of the park. Just don't expect these to isolate any sound, so I better hope nobody's living with you.


>> No.58786848

What headphones to buy if I want to use them for gayming on my xbox connecting them to the controller? Full sized, open or closed. Fidelio X2?

>> No.58786874 [DELETED] 

Sorry kiddo, but at any price, this headphone's going to kick your current headphone's ass. Just don't expect these to isolate any sound, so I better hope you aren't living with anybody right now.

>These are now selling for $50
Buy it, nigger.


>> No.58786887

Im looking at headphones and i settled on the Audio-technica ATH-M50x and the M70x.

So my question is, is there are worthwhile differences between the two models?

>> No.58786902

do I need a DAC? I have Sennheiser HD598s and I'm just using my mobo's onboard sound card at the moment.

>> No.58786928

Unless you're getting any buzzing from your onboard sound then you're fine.

>> No.58786996

Met Zeos, can confirm he is maxim WOP WEEB.

>> No.58787072

I almost exclusively see black women wearing them around. Black women still make phone calls though so it makes sense

I used to have the LG Tone Plus and they were awesome until I sweated them to death running. They're cool because in addition to being wireless, they have a place to store the earbuds out of your way when not in use. No digging in your pocket or whatever. Very convenient

>> No.58787082

>sr80e for $90

please link

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>> No.58787135


They're excellent when they're on sale in the $55 range.... like on newegg this weekend.

>> No.58787153

Zeos says everything is good. I have these and can say I like them better than my AKG Q701s. Those cans hurt to wear.

>> No.58787157
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X2 or HD650?

>> No.58787168

>Semi open back
are you talking about the 681? I was thinking of getting them for around the town. these cheapass headphones are too confusing for me with all the numbers

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After a few day of listening to the 9500s still not sure which one I prefer more, them or the 518s

>> No.58787251

558 > 9500 imo
518's are just kind of bassier 558's with a bit more mud

>> No.58787279

No amp, go X2

amp, go HD650 if you want a more neutral sound
go X2 if you want a fun sounding open headphone

Either way the build quality and comfort are better on the X2.

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Next cops will be the athad500x and hd668b because i like dinking around with these cheaper headphones

>> No.58787429

i have the dt770 pro 250 ohm version and use them at work. i personally can't tell the difference between amped (tried schiit mm stack, jdslabs element, cmoybb amp) and unamped (iphone 6s, macbook pro 2014). it's all placebo to my ears. i'm fairly certain anything higher tier than hd558 or hd598 is completely wasted on me.

the one thing i can say for sure is that the jdslabs element (off topic but just ranting) is incredibly susceptible to interference. i use my phone and start hearing static noises. i can't place it anywhere near my wifi adapter. i just purchased a new monitor and i guess there is something in there that interferes with the element as well so now i switched back to the schiit stack. really one of the worst purchases i've made in recent memory. i didn't get any of this interference back when i was just using my onboard sound.

>> No.58787456

I heard they are the best under $200 so $70 seems like a great price

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I have the DT990 250 ohm with the Fiio E10K. I would 100% recommend a DAC/AMP, either the E10K or SMSL M3 mini if you don't want to spend too much. The headphones are far too quiet for normal use without the DAC in my opinion.

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>the best under $200

Well, now you're hearing that they're the best under $65 (because I just said it) so $70 seems like a too-high price.

>> No.58787825

E10K, SMSL M3, shiit stack if you shop around

>> No.58787932

Where the hell do you find Schiit stacks for under $100
Just get a Fulla instead, you're never gonna find a stack for that cheap

>> No.58787970

they're good if you don't mind a lack of subbass

>> No.58787987

same specs as me, I need something better than the skullcandies I got as a gift

>> No.58787993

Idk what that means

>> No.58788092

Just looking for a second pair.
$200-$300 maybe more
PS4/TV no amp or reciever
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Either, maybe a req for both
>Comfort level
2-3 hours
>Sound signature
>Past headphones
598 is current

$200 or less
>Type of headphone
In Ear
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
Should be pretty comfy will use Skiing or on bike. Deep insertion is fine I have worn hearing protection for extended periods.
>Sound signature
>Past headphones
Shit ones that came with MP3 player for free

>> No.58788341

Sorry I was thinking of the magni 2

>> No.58788453

So I been considering getting the 9500. Do I need a DAC/AMP to drive them?
Also, should I just bulk up for the X2 or dt880?

>> No.58788564

>I heard they are the best under $200

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Who whizzer here

>> No.58788673

What are the best under $200?

>> No.58788683

depends what you want
fill out the form

>> No.58788706

Entirely depends on your usage/preferences.

K7XX would probably be the easiest to acquire. HD6XX if they ever drop again. X2's can be picked up for on sale for about $200.

K612's would probably be the most direct upgrade to 9500's, but only because of the similar sound signature.

>> No.58788755

I dont know what i want. I was expecting to be spoonfed

>> No.58788767

Spoonfeeding doesnt work for audio. Fill out the damn form.

>> No.58788773

do you want open or closed
what kind of music do you like (or if possible, what part of your music do you enjoy most)
I assume you don't have an amp

>> No.58788792

Open i guess
I mainly like punk and thrash i guess also pop
But i will also be using them for fps gaming.
No amp
Also price range is $100

>> No.58788824

I think those Philips will serve you all right. Someone like you who isn't an audio snob would probably be satisfied with most anything at that range though

>> No.58788839

Ive had $150 gaymer headsets specifically steelseries siberia v2. Would those philips be better than them?

>> No.58788855

Yes they would.

>> No.58788901

$140 flexible
Nintendo Switch and other vidya with headphone out, laptop, smart phones, tablets
supra-aural, circum-aural
open, unless there is a better closed option with as good soundstage and imaging
medium, preferably something that doesn't trap too much heat/air
neutral, mostly concerned about treble spikes though
past headphones: PortaPro, KSC-75, RX300, RX700, T40RP MkII (modded)
what I didn't like: ANGLED DRIVERS, fixed / long / cheap cable
what I like: airy sound, detachable cable

>> No.58789392

Anything but skullcandy

>> No.58789622
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HE-350s any good? Friend wants to off load them for $50 because he's getting the HE-400i.

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>> No.58789646
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redpill me on Massdrop, /hpg/. I signed up last december (after the HD6xx deal) and have been looking at what they have. I haven't bought anything there because the products are meme as fuck and prices are the same as retail.

has anyone bought anything off that site??? is there even a single good deal one there?

>> No.58789647

about to blow my tax return on a pair of audeze lcd-3's

this hobby is retarded lmao

>> No.58789685

Headphones should not be a hobby, they should be a tool to practice the hobby with.

>> No.58789696

The only product that seems worth a shit that they sell is the 7XX. Everything else can be bought elsewhere without waiting weeks to ship unless you desperately need to save $5, in which case you should probably be worrying about more important things than where you're buying headphone equipment.

>> No.58789699


>buying high end lcd's for anything but listening to music

that is the hobby m8

>> No.58790260

They're competitors with SHP9500's, 598's, and AD500x.

If you like highs, yeah they're decent. Also have quite a bit of a modding scene behind them now.

>> No.58790825


>> No.58791273

hi guys, I'm an dummy looking to get some comfy over-ear headphones for watching vids/listening to music on my pc
anyone have any recommendations/tips/advice?

£50 or so, maybe a bit more but not too much
PC, maybe phone. Want bluetooth as my easy to access headphone jack is broken
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
comfort is good
>Sound signature
no idea, I'm not experienced with headphones
>Past headphones
cheap ones that come with my phone and fake beats :^)

>> No.58791299

Anons, I accidentally bought a pair of Senn's. HD 461i. I didn't realize they were sitting in my Amazon cart when I bought an iPad cover. I have been looking for some decent $50ish headphones. Did I fuck up, or are they pretty fucking sweet? I haven't opened the box yet so I can still send them back if I went full retard.

>> No.58791398

see >>58783427

>> No.58791441

there's two good bluetooth options and they're both of your budget, so you're fucked
I'd say just get a 662 evo

>> No.58791502
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>$200 for HD650
>save $5

>> No.58791526
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Does anyone have any experience with the Fostex T50RP MK3's?
I'm looking to acquire a pair a planar magnetic cans, but don't particularly want to shell out over $1000 for them.
I don't really care how easy or hard they are to drive, as my Mojo has power for fucking days.

$300/$400(USD/CAD) ish.
Shanling M1 (mostly) -> Chord Mojo ->
>Type of headphone
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
Anything not shite
>Sound signature
Flat is best, but I don't mind a high end sparkle or two
>Past headphones
Grado SR325i & SR325is, Shure SE215

>> No.58791710


I own a pair of t40rp mk3's which are exactly the same as the t50rp's but with the vent more closed. Honestly the best headphone I've used, both before and after modding them, but I haven't really listened to a lot of headphones. Definitely better than my old DT 770's.

Whatever you do, do not use the stock cable with the MK3's, and you probably want to replace the pads. I'm using alpha pads but I find them a little too thick and would probably buy zmf pads in the future. And be sure to check out the modding scene with these. I'm using my own offshoot of the mayflower mod and I tweaked them over and over until I got just the kind of sound I wanted.

>> No.58791846
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Another desperate bump.
I contacted Philips and I'm waiting for a answer.
I tried opening the pad, but I can't remove the plastic to reach the driver diaphragm because it feels like it's going to break if I force it.
What to do?
Pic related. This is where I can't go any further.

>> No.58791884

most everything you can get on MD you can get on amazon for the same price and with prime you can get your stuff in 1-2 days vs waiting like 3-4 months on MD
I like MD and i use it to find interesting products but their either need to massively improve their logistics or give substantially better discounts

>> No.58792088

Fuck, fuck, fuck.
I'll try contacting the Brazil's Philips service, but I'm 99% sure they won't be able to help me.

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Ops, forgot pic.

>> No.58792507

Are piston 2 still the most memed cheap iems? I liked my soundmagic e50 but I destroyed them and don't want to spend 70 yuuros on something that won't last more than a year. Bassy/balanced @phone of you have recommendations.

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>> No.58792582

>this hobby is retarded lmao
just you

>> No.58792650

Bluedio T series is breddy gud as far as cheapo bluetooth headphones go.

IEMs might also be a better option at that price point.

>> No.58792739

Pads are garbage. If you do want to try them, get the Mayflower versions. Sound-wise they're an improvement, and they ship with pads anyway. Youre hardly paying any more than just doing the mayflower mod + pads yourself, and you have no chance of fucking it up yourself.

Otherwise you could look into other mods that may interest you more if the mayflowers dont look to hot. Modhouse Argons are apparently really good for a bassy mod. I think mayflower also has a more bassy option.

There is a massive head-fi thread with measurements for different mods that may help you out. Stock, the T50's are pretty 'eh'.

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>refurbished sony mdr-xb950
>refurbished sony mdr-xb330bt

Under $100 spent
Sound fine, look fine

>> No.58793051

when i got an amp, there was more detail and more dynamic range

>> No.58793357

in between your ears

funny thing, the brains

>> No.58793389

Owners of headphones with detachable cords: can I replace them with any other audio cable if the original ones ever break?
Or am I stuck with proprietary cables that I will never find again to buy?

>> No.58793417

depends on the connector. you can use whatever cable but connector types vary and a lot are proprietary.

>> No.58793457

Any cable.
But be careful, certain headphones like Fostex Tx0rp have proprietary locking mechanisms.

>> No.58793522

Thanks. Do you guys happen to know if the sennheiser HD 461G can be used with any cable? I'm thinking about getting one because I always break my cables over time.

>> No.58793547

Laptop/Phone/Mobile Music shit
>Type of headphone
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
Something OK, but since poorfag, I understand if this isn't possible

>> No.58793646

And when was the last time 6XX's dropped? No one's selling theirs for $200 either, you'll have an easier time finding a used pair of actual 650's for that much.

>> No.58793668

If you even bothered to look it up you'd see in the description it said "detachable cable", but have fun with your cheapshit low end Senns

>> No.58793718

I knew it used a detachable cable, but the cable has controls in it and I wanted to know if I could use any cable to at least have the sound part (which is what I want).

>> No.58793958

e10k is on massdrop right now

>> No.58793983
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In theory you should be able to use any 3.5mm cable, but that custom shaped sheath looks like it may prevent thicker-sheathed cables from being inserted properly, so I'd look for 3.5mm cables with a slimmer termination.

Using a standard TRS cable in place of a TRRS cable (the termination that's used for cables with phone controls) should be without a problem. You'll still get sound, minus the controls.

>> No.58794073
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I'm thinking of replacing my VMODA M100s soon, they're okay for what they were but I want something better.

What are some meme brands to avoid? Apparently Audio-Technica is one of them? I already know hyper-normie memes like bose and beats

>> No.58794125

>What are some meme brands to avoid?
literally every single brand that makes anything

>> No.58794279

Can anyone give opinions on Piston 3s?

>> No.58794284

I dont have the ue900

>> No.58794308


>> No.58794329

Decent but you need to make triple sure you're not getting fakes.

>> No.58794384
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Superlux 681 arrived yesterday, plug it into my PC no sound out of the left ear cup :( fiddle with the aire for a few minutes hear crackling finally get sound to come through, but every time I remove the HP no sound once again gotta fiddle with it til he works.........besides that the sound is pretty good had to EQ the highs down by -7db, and the comfort is pretty bad.

I don't get why these headphones are so highly recommended.

>> No.58794428

You just got chinked son

>> No.58794461
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Be honest: why didn't you spend less money to get a better sounding system with speakers?


>> No.58794481

well you learn the hard way I guess.

at least I know what I want now. going to send this pos back to Amazon and get a pair of Koss SC-75 and buy a used Sennheiser 558 off of eBay.

>> No.58794488

>Apparently Audio-Technica is one of them?
What kind of retard says something like that?

>> No.58794549
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>accidentally snapped the jack on my headphones while drunk a few weeks ago
>every repair shop gives me a $60 quote to repair it even though I know it's a simple fix
>have never soldered anything in my life so I've been putting it off for over a month now

>> No.58794582 [DELETED] 

When did the hd600s come out

>> No.58794613

> I know it's an easy fix
> But I can't do it
> 60 bucks to pay someone who knows is too high

>> No.58794648
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>Klipsch RB-10 Bookshelf Speaker (pair)
Somewhat off topic, but are is this a good deal or it is Chinkshit with an fictional, inflated base price?


>> No.58794679

klipsch speakers are really bad

>> No.58794692

>new klipsch for $72
>meme tier design
>meme tier plastic front
>meme tier speaker cones
>meme tier speaker cone color
>meme tier tweeters

looks like a great deal for only $72

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Bought this, waiting for it to arrive, how'd I do hpg?

Planning to run with the TV inserts.

>> No.58794744

Was this the greatest review in the industry?

>> No.58794750

Cool your ass faggot, if your brain had folds you would be able to pick up that anyone can do it but just don't want to right now

>> No.58794786

>If your brain had folds
Hot shit talk you little faggot

>> No.58794788

lol my hd600's are better than that.


>> No.58794857

I didn't want to create my own thread so I thought I'd just ask here. I'm looking to get a mic. Budget is about $140 and preferably something small (or even better, be mounted) since I don't have enough space on my desk

>> No.58794865

>open back
>better bass than an actual sub
That's a negative, ghost rider.

>> No.58794871

Good answer 9,5/10

>> No.58794946

But anon, my dad gave me his 300$ Yamaha reciever and 400$ pair of local manufacturer when he moved, perfect for blasting my non-normie EDM

>> No.58794977

*local manufacturer speakers

>> No.58795067

Everything but the bass is better though

>> No.58795085

Blue snowball/yeti. everything needs more shit to work properly

>> No.58795092

audio technica at2020usb, blue products are garbage

>> No.58795105

fuck me senpai~

>> No.58795112

at2020 if you're doing something you want to make money off

snowball/meteor if you not

>> No.58795115

Koss PortaPros or Koss UR-40

which is the overall better headphone.

>> No.58795122

Dont listen to this >>58795092

>> No.58795127

>non-normie EDM
What exactly does that mean?

>> No.58795139

but anon, the bass is
>all that matters

>> No.58795174

>places speaker sideways on a wooden desk

>> No.58795193

Why would that matter?

>wooden desk
... why would that matter?

>> No.58795205

vibrations which degrade the sound of the speaker because the whole table resonances with it

>> No.58795226

Are you one of those people who spends $30 on "speaker isolation pads"?

>> No.58795250

Anon that's actually a thing though

>> No.58795252

fuck off moron, anyone recommending blue dildo mics doesn't know what they're talking about, they just popular streamer products because they want to be streamers

>> No.58795255

The artist doesn't regularly have more than 5mil on his tracks any platform, because popularity ruins active artists.

So Illenium is still aight

>> No.58795264

I have a pair of Senhizer Momentums that i really like. Great sound quality.

>> No.58795295



"I'll Be Your Reason" is groovy too.

>> No.58795315

No it isn't

>> No.58795366
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i been like you once,

but when you develop "audiophile" ears which can identify unwanted reverb/vibrations, positional misalignment, audio treatment of your room, it does matter alot. i'd advice for a direct step to isolated standmounts though

the perfect room condition gives you better sound than any speaker in nearfield

>> No.58795392

i forgot to add.. on a desk setup, the smaller the speaker, the better the soundstage

>> No.58795395

>they want to be streamers
So blue dildos are good for streaming? Good thing that's exactly what I'm doing.

>> No.58795403

You'll like this too:

>> No.58795412

>talks about room conditions
>is incapable of proper speaker placement
good job
i hope your investment for that 1 viewer is worth it

>> No.58795435

that shit plays on the radio, how is it not normie tier

>> No.58795436

i never said that i use the perfect condition.. my room is a mess when it comes to this. but i will move out the basement this year so yeah. let's see who will laugh next

>> No.58795450

>let's see who will laugh next
anyone who spends $200 to get better speakers than you have

>> No.58795463

>dynaudio m20


actually this photo is when i tested them, i kept my kef ls50

>> No.58795474

I don't like the original track that much, remix makes it amazing.

>> No.58795482

from one shit pair to the next, somebody stop this madman

>> No.58795487

this meme is getting old, i'm just reading envy from your sentence

>> No.58795502

i was specifically talking about the remix
i know you have post purchase rationalization kicking in but the ls50 are not good, nor do they cost enough to invoke envy from anyone. you simply made an incredibly poor purchase decision.

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>> No.58795527

name me any speaker for 800€ which is better than the kef ls50.

anything bigger creates a messy sound in my room

>> No.58795539

>i hope your investment for that 1 viewer is worth it
I'll get more than that being a grill and all, I'll probably even see you there so make sure to have your donation ready

>> No.58795544

scythe krocraft are better than the ls50, i don't even need to name anything more expensive

>> No.58795547

doesn't look that comfortable desu

>> No.58795551

They're not good, just popular. Watch this to get an idea of what you should get.

>> No.58795596

are you one of those memers which swear on cheap technology because you can't afford it and tell people they messed up when buying anything more expensive because the technology can't be different?

how deluded are you please.

i heard many b&w speakers, dali speakers and kef r300 and ls50 and the dynaudio emit m20. and now someone on 4chan mentions 58€ are supposed to be better than everything out there

sure, your credibility must be the reason why you're still unemployed

>> No.58795616

>are you one of those memers which swear on cheap technology
no, you just bought really bad speakers, irrelevant of price. i just named a really cheap speaker that outperforms the ls50 to prove a point

>> No.58795617

>reverb/vibrations, positional misalignment, audio treatment of your room
No disagreement there. Those cause real, measurable, objectively correctable issues. Rattling shit on the wall, cancellation at certain frequencies (ie dead zones, particularly with subwoofers), and echoes all degrade sound quality.

However, a speaker sitting on your desk vs sitting on a retarded foam block won't make a detectable difference except in weird circumstances where you have a sub sitting on a desk or your desk is really lightweight or hollow or some arbitrary, extremely unique situation.

Based on everything I can find on Google, """"soundstage"""" is nothing but a bunch of audiophile bullshit, like most of what they say. Stereo imaging is affected by speaker positioning. Nothing else.

Again, unless we're talking about some extremely unique situation where you're running a super shit-quality amplifier and the stereo channels are leaking inside the circuitry or some such bullshit.

I can guarantee, to both of you and to anyone else who considers themselves an "audiophile", you would not be able to tell a difference between
>using speaker isolation pads or not
>speaker sideways or vertical
>using a $100 set of speakers or a $4000 set of speakers
>using a $100 amp (which is really the upper limit for anything to actually make sense) vs using a $1200 amp
>any of that *completely* retarded stuff like massive cables or cable risers

Rattling stuff in the room, misalignment/poor positioning of the speakers, and echoes however? Yes, you'll be able to tell. Those are real. Everything else is not.

This is the same thing, SAME exact thing as wine snobs. I guarantee you, they cannot tell which is which between an $8 bottle of wine and a $400 bottle of wine. Perception is reality, a fool and his money are soon parted, and it's much easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they've been fooled.

>> No.58795628

Haha, am I missing something or is this copy pasta

Your post reeks of buyer's regret

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>but when you develop "audiophile" ears
You spent your entire part-timer paycheck on these and think you're hot shit now. You school kids crack me up.

>> No.58795655

That's good. You good anon, I like you.

>> No.58795696

i feel like talking to an ai which does nothing except repeating it's bootstrap. anyway, without proper evidence, every sentence of yours is wasted potential

>this professional biker cares about a 1000$ suspension in his bike to further develop his biking skills
>you school kids crack me up

>> No.58795698

Hooooooly shit this is retarded. Anon you need to stop.

>> No.58795721

yes, i'm probably as retarded as somebody buying a car for 50.000$ while a 20$ bike can get you to a location aswell

>> No.58795727

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and the fact that you think you have 'audiophile' ears really is hilarious, especially when you can still sit in front of LS50s for more than 15 seconds.

You have a lot to learn, kid.

>> No.58795749

what do i have to learn? please teach me your ways.. oh wait. you won't since you're repeating your trash for a decade

>> No.58795762

No, it's more comparable to you paying $100,000 for a Toyota when you could have paid $80,000 for a Mercedes.

You make terrible comparisons.

>> No.58795771

thanks for correcting though

>> No.58795801

Yeah except a car for $50,000 will at least have a nice interior. There's some tangible benefit, as tiny and not worth it as it is. For the sake of simplicity we'll glance over the fact that a $20,000 Supra can outperform every single production vehicle BMW has ever made.

However,spending 800€ on a set of speakers actually gets you literally nothing. I guarantee, if I put you in a chair blindfolded, played your favorite song on a set of $60 speakers and then again on your pants on head retarded 800€ (or even something more expensive), you would not be able to tell which is which. If we did a multi-song test, ran through 40 sound clips all from different songs and artists and genres, you would be right 50% of the time, because you just be guessing.

>> No.58795818

What a good speaker sounds like, apparently.

>> No.58795835

i specialised my ears on neutral tonality so i'd instantly figure which speaker is which due to the different technologies, granted.

what does a good speaker sound like master?

>> No.58795848

>i specialised my ears on neutral tonality so i'd instantly figure which speaker is which due to the different technologies, granted.
What the fuck am I reading?

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>i specialised my ears on neutral tonality so i'd instantly figure which speaker is which due to the different technologies, granted.

>> No.58795896

Sony mdr 1a. Build quality is good but they can creak. You can fix this with some carefully applied wd40 or something like that

>> No.58795898

i have many portable speakers in my reservoir for the sake of it. i based my product choice on my personal requirements and what sounded good to me.

portable speaker are biggest evidence what price categories can influence when it comes to audio

go to youtube channel clavinetjunkie and i pretty much have the same hearing as him

that's like saying that people shouldn't get the sennheiser hd800 because you'd hear exactly the same thing on a sennheiser 201, disprove this fact

>> No.58795905

>i specialised my ears on neutral tonality so i'd instantly figure which speaker is which due to the different technologies, granted.
sugoi monogatari oniichan

>> No.58795923

used Parrot Zik 2, best portable speaker in my opinion for the money


>> No.58795932

Getting your musical tastes validated feels good

>> No.58795938

*portable wireless headphone

>> No.58795949

An ego this big should be reserved for someone who actually has an idea of what they're talking about.

You on the other hand know about as much as the average head-fier, so it's time to deflate that ego a bit.

>> No.58795973

knowledge has nothing to do with confidence

>> No.58796000

Confidence often comes with knowledge

>> No.58796011

so does intimidation

>> No.58796028

Redpill me on DACs and amps.
Is it really worth it to dump 200+ bucks on a dedicated damp and a dedicated amp? I constantly read that amps change the sound, but aren't they designed to simply take the sound wave and make it bigger? Is there a difference between dacs?

>> No.58796038

You strike me as the kind of person who would regard Steve Guttenberg's opinion highly.

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>> No.58796057

looks like we found where audiophool anon is placed on that chart

>> No.58796071

>this chart shows what's wrong with you..

somehow i begin to believe you're not human afterall

>> No.58796254

In layman's terms the amp drives the headphone and the dac gives a clean noiseless source, that's it.

Buy an e10k and call it a day my friend.

>> No.58796271

A Schiit stack or O2+ODAC will provide you all the amplification and clean signal you'll ever need, anything more is a placebo.

>> No.58796401

Just use the input of your PC, you won't notice a difference anyway on a blindtest.

>> No.58796445

>Redpill me on DACs and amps.
This rabbit hole is not shallow. Do you really want to know? Or do you want the "fake" answer?

>> No.58796453

Thanks anon

>> No.58796458

Not everyone uses headphones that can be driven with a potato, sometimes an amp at the very least is necessary.

>> No.58796499

The only headphones that can genuinely justify a discrete amp would be the HE-6, K1000 and MAYBE 600ohm DT880/990

>> No.58796627

I use an e10k for my hd600's. I used to own the 702, k712 and x2's etc. They all benefited from my e10k. Besides overall quality my onbaord produces background noise so it's worth it alone just to get rid of that.

You absolutely want an amp+dac with good headphones but you only need a cheap one. That's why I always recommend the e10k. I've owned more expensive ones and there is zero fucking difference.

>> No.58796656

>They all benefited from my e10k. Besides overall quality my onbaord produces background noise so it's worth it alone just to get rid of that.
OF course they would 'benefit' if your onboard solution is bad.
>You absolutely want an amp+dac with good headphones but you only need a cheap one.
No, stop spouting nonsense. Just because your onboard was so bad that an E10K not having background noise fixed the sound, doesn't mean everyone 'benefi'ts from an amp/dac.

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Bought a pair of DT770 250ohms and the constant buzzing from my headphones amp finally went away.

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>mfw my ancient essence stx is just as good as those meme discrete amp/dac combos

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Motherboard (asus Z97-E), maybe rarely phone (lumia 950)
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
Only used to Semi-open. I've heard good things about Open though
>Comfort level
as comfortable as possible
>Sound signature
flat, mostly. maybe a little bassy. mainly listen to pregressive/power/black metal and the occasional gay drum/bass edm trash
>Past headphones
Superlux 681 Evo, shitty target skullcandy in ears, and 1More's Triple Driver In-Ear headphones (pictured)

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They also sound better than my last two more expensive headphones right out of the box.

The DT770 meme is actually real.

It's especially ironic because I used to own the 80 ohm version of these and they were shit.

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>Type of headphone
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
>Sound signature
No preference
>Past headphones
Bose OE2

Basically just looking for something of similar comfort to the OE2s with higher audio quality.

>> No.58797084

A basic well made amp+dac is better than onboard sound. I don't care how good you think your motherboard is lmao.

>> No.58797108

Oh please do elaborate on why a basic discrete DAC/amp is better than an onboard DAC/amp.

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>> No.58797311

Why do you keep using the word discrete? what's the obsession?

Before I answer your question, what headphones do you use with your onboard on a daily basis?.

>> No.58797327

>Why do you keep using the word discrete?
To differentiate the two, because they're literally the same thing, one is just not on the motherboard.

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>Before I answer your question, what headphones do you use with your onboard on a daily basis?.
Oh boy here comes the 'your headphones need to be X amount of money to take advantage of a DAC/amp' argument.

>> No.58797368

will silver plated copper cables affect IEMs with BA drivers in them? thanks

>> No.58797392

Yeah it decreases the soundstage, bass lacks speed and attack, highs become a tad veiled and overall makes the sound have a lower clarity and crispiness compared to golden cables.

>> No.58797411

>Stereo imaging is affected by speaker positioning. Nothing else.
You could go read some of Blauert's work, "Spatial Hearing" would be a great start point.
Toole also presents his own summaries of the work.

Let's try a different idea. A subject examines a stimulus, using all the senses available to the person.

>Physical sound.
The pressure difference is propagated through the medium at which point is subject to transfer function imposed by the head and ears. Phase/timing arrival differences emerge, but leave a varieties of possible source locations on the "cone of confusion". Median plane errors are a particular case of the "cone" that are known to be difficult to distinguish.
The sound vibration does not simply transfer to the tissue and is reflected off, creating standing waves. The ridges and troughs of the ear reflect sound in a manner that is highly angle dependent, enabling angle determination even on the cone.

In addition, besides an anechoic space, there are significant secondary sounds that follow the initial stimulus.

From the "first" sound, there is a masker on recognizing similar sound within a few millisecond time interval. The masking is such that an identical sound quickly presented can be up to 10dB greater, but still not detected. The sounds detected within the critical short window are "fused" as location. Precedence effect stuff. Or was it the Haas effect? I don't recall which one.

The masker decays after 5-10 ms or so, delayed reverberation copies can be identified and distinguished by the continuous running correlation performed on the initial stimulus. Physical delayed reflections will be subject to transfer function shifts imposed by angle of incidence; these are identified as added information, timbre, location and so on.

More later.

>> No.58797425

i dunno what are you arguing about but if you have nice onboard shit then it's good but many users have bad onboard shit or even laptops where they simply can't change audio equipment so buying something like e10k is good idea

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>> No.58797486

>Oh boy here comes the 'your headphones need to be X amount of money to take advantage of a DAC/amp' argument.

I wasn't going to say that at all, it just seems obvious that you want a separate purpose amp+dac. I would recommend the e10k for most headphones but not for those. You are literally cucking yourself. or trolling by posting a picture of your headphones plugged into a pc.

>> No.58797492

fuck you

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