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This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch.

>Required viewing for newbies:
>Strap guide:
Previous thread:

>> No.58662523
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I dunno but I found this neat

>> No.58662529
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>tfw to smart to not invest in Explorer II's

>> No.58662531
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Does anon still update the poorfag watch guide

>> No.58662549


>> No.58662590
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So, what, do I just buy a blue Ray II and get it over with?

>> No.58662593

It mostly still applies today.

>> No.58662627

Yeah it's a good choice
What are you looking for and what is your budget?

>> No.58662692

Blue dial

I have no diver, that's why I was kind of looking at the Ray II. I don't like the small numbers on the Mako II bezel and I don't think the Mako USA II is worth $80 more. Not to mention, it looks sort of bland. I didn't like the round pips on the Ray at first but they're growing on me.

>> No.58662766

>that hand

jesus fucking christ is that a tumor or something

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There are some corrections to be made, but unless the creator makes them it's not worth making a new one.

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If he had a tumor, he'd eat it

>> No.58662793
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>All those fuckin Rolex knockoffs

>> No.58662874

Go for it then. I have the blue Ray I and the dial looks great.
It's 41.5mm though.

>> No.58662884

Unfortunately, it's what sells. And cheap brands can't make good original designs.

>> No.58662963


Yep bunch of anti-social plebs trying to give fashion advice. Plus all the watches they glamorize are all shit brands brands anyway. It's all about the brand in the real business world.

Not shit terrorist watches and that knock-off brand Seiko

>> No.58663005

Which is worse guys:

1) "the collector"
>always buying new watches to get that passing honeymoon buzz and fill that gaping void with shiny inanimate objects
>can't part with any of them, and they rot away in his closet

2) "the flipper"
>always buying new watches to get that passing honeymoon buzz and fill that gaping void with shiny inanimate objects
>constantly selling off his watches after a few months

Sure, the flipper gives his watches a chance at another life with someone else, but for some reason the flipper strikes me as the more mentally unsound of the two.
Or simply the poorer of the two, putting him in the "30k millionaire" faggot bracket.

It goes without saying that anyone owning more than 2-3 watches (dresser, daily beater, super beater) is a faggot, no matter how rich he is.

>> No.58663009

Not everyone buys watches to make an impression on others. Some people just enjoy watches and buy what they like. Crazy, I know.

>> No.58663010

Most folks aren't in the "real business world" you speak of and even then, hardly anyone gives a shit about your watch

>> No.58663157

>And cheap brands can't make good original designs.

They can, it's just that they have no pride and would rather shamelessly copy others who make cool shit instead. The only thing worse than the shitter """"homage"""" brands are the tasteless plebs who buy that garbage.

>> No.58663206

It doesn't need an update, it needs to be remade entirely if anything.

I'm myself compiling a list of all the actually interesting, iconic, unique watches. Because really, 99% of watches out there are generic uninspired copies, and many remain uncopied and unmatched.

Here's my current list generally ordered by style:

Blancpain Fifty Fathoms
Rolex Submariner
Tudor Black Bay
Doxa Sub
Vostok Amphibia
Seiko 6105 'Turtle'

Cartier Tank
Jaeger-LeCoultre Reverso
Cartier Santos Dumont

Omega Speedmaster
Zenith El Primero
Heuer Monaco
Seiko 6138 'UFO'/'Yachtman' & 'Jumbo'

IWC Portuguese
Breguet Type XXI
Sinn 556
Sinn U*
Sinn EZM*
Breitling Navitimer
Seiko 6117 Navigator Timer

Patek Philippe Calatrava
Rolex Datejust
Audemar Piguet Royal Oak
Grand Seiko
Panerai Luminor

Seiko Alpinist
Victorinox I.N.O.X.
Rolex Explorer

Casio Digital Classic/F-91W
Casio Data Bank
Casio G-Shock
Seiko G-757
Tissot T-Touch

Accutron Spaceview
LIP Mach 2000
Autodromo Group B
A. Lange & Sohne Datograph
Hamilton Ventura
Mondaine Classic
Orient Disk
Seiko Giugiaro 7A28-7000

What would you add?

>> No.58663256

No they can't. It's actually really hard to make a good original design, believe it or not.
And getting someone to make one for you is really expensive.

>> No.58663265

Wow, you're a fucking retard.

>> No.58663303

It's not really a question of design though, it's more a question of the materials used: if you use shitty materials, you can't make good designs, otherwise they just look cheap.
The designs of cheap watches are in fact incredibly well thought out, simply they're made with the cheap materials in mind, trying to hide their shitty quality as much as possible.

>> No.58663325

Thanks anon.

>> No.58663425

>Tudor Black Bay
>Anything but a budget submariner

>3 Sinn pilots

>Grand Seiko isn't a watch

>Ugly Victorinox i have never heard of

>Ugly Tissot I have never heard of

I think the SKX also belongs on the list over the turtle tbqhwy.

>> No.58663435

Meant as a response to >>58663206

>> No.58663440
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Will this strap be too thick for the Black Bay?


>> No.58663509

I would remove Doxa which is an absolute garbage brand that costs way too much money considering they're made in fucking China.

I would replace it with an Oris Aquis Depth Gauge which is actually something unique (and relatively new).

Some other watches I'd throw in would be a VC Malte for the square category (actually more barrel shaped but it's unique an beautiful)

Throw out the Sinn watches they're shit.

"Alpinism" should be changed to field watch.

>> No.58663553

Source on the SARB being made in China?

>> No.58663568
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My Seiko snkl83j1 from CreationWatches finally arrived!

>> No.58663570

Open the case back, it says made in china on the inside.

>> No.58663597
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Sorry for potato quality.

>> No.58663641

Well this isn't so much a list of "my favorite watches", I mean there's a Panerai in there, it's just that I find them well-designed, unique, iconic and/or influential.

I find the Black Bay largely different, with color tones and contrast that are unlike anything else, though I wouldn't wear one, the Tissot T-Touch was full of innovation and a best-seller, though I wouldn't wear one either, Sinn designs are recognisable, very influential, yet still varied, and that Victorinox is well-known in some circles as an affordable, bomb-proof mechanical.

As for Grand Seiko, they obviously exist in many options, but I'm listing ranges in here too. All GS are still similar in design.

>Oris Aquis Depth Gauge
Was currently mirrin' Oris watches, plenty good stuff in there. Though Doxas are still quite iconic and there's plenty great vintage ones.

VC Malte is pretty good though.

>> No.58663698
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Why did Zenith decide to mess with perfection?

Also WHAT were they thinking with that overlap that covers the chronograph minute markers? Like how can designers working for a big watch company make such a stupid mistake?

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>I think the SKX also belongs on the list over the turtle tbqhwy.
They kinda both belong, but the Turtle certainly does.

It's more than iconic, being the absolute Vietnam watch, sold in US army stores during the war, worn by both sides as Vietcongs picked them off dead bodies, and still common among veterans. It's also seen in countless movies, most notably Apocalypse Now.

Nothing screams "Phế liệu máy bay trực thăng này! Lỗ đít!" like a Turtle.

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damn your list.

THIS graph shows all of you -- ALL OF YOU, all that you need to know.

>> No.58663932

I think anon just wanted to list nice and original looking watches, not argue which brand is the best. Even with your graph, that doesn't quite give me an idea of what good watches there are from either of those brands.

It doesn't even mention odd brands, like Lip, or the Autodromo Group B that got posted just last thread: >>58660107)
Meanwhile, your list is fucking garbage:
>Chris Ward
>Richard Mille

>> No.58663955
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Upboated kind sir
Show us how many of the top tier you actually own then
I don't know bro.. But I want the 1969 so bad, or a Vacheron.

How bankrupt would we all go if we won the lottery

>> No.58663980

the overlap is great

>> No.58663982

good article on filippo loreti


>> No.58664000

if i won the lottery i'd just buy a nomos to be honest

>> No.58664008

>shitty kickstarter watch is made in china

>> No.58664061

what kind of filth would buy vc, hublot, ap, or panerai? disgusting.

money certainly can't buy one taste. or class.

>> No.58664072


What's wrong with AP and VC?

>> No.58664090

AP makes other watches than the Offshores.
And VC doesn't really make anything offensive.

>> No.58664091
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Looking for a midsized dive watch(40mm) for under $200 that you can actually take swimming

What can I get?

>> No.58664141

you don't think this >>58663955 is horribly offensive? it looks like an AP knockoff.


>> No.58664165

It looks pretty damn good. And just because it has an integrated bracelet doesn't make it a RO.

>> No.58664174

I thought turtles were much more recent

Not a fan of the big case, but this makes me like them more.

What's the meaning of the Viet sentence?

>> No.58664219

Best cheap

Diver style
Minimal style (DW, etc)


>> No.58664243

$4 fake dw from ali

>> No.58664285

I'm pretty sure the just cases SARB models are made in China. I have never read about any other part in the SARB line coming from there. Please correct me of I am wrong though.

>> No.58664623


>> No.58664818

SKX013, might have to stretch your budget a bit. How many more fucking times are you going to ask this question?

>> No.58664957
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>> No.58665146

The thing is that we don't know, and japanese law states that it's enough for the chinese production to be overseen by a gook to qualify as "made in japan".

So it's made in china.

>> No.58665277

Seiko makes their stuff in Malaysia if anything.

>> No.58665463

Entirely untrue. I've worn a $30 watch and someone thought it was a $600 watch. People only care how nice it looks, not everyone in the real world is informed about watches.

>> No.58665495

>You should buy Rolex and not IWC
Lol what?

>> No.58665708

Nah m8. Japan or Korea.

>> No.58666181


It's funny how IWC have been around a lot longer than Rolex, yet Rolex have managed to refine their processes and are able to create 100% in-house to a near flawless standard while launching many significant innovations over the years.

IWC are still busy putting ETA movements in their overpriced polished turds

>> No.58666346

>launching many significant innovations
Such as?

>> No.58666410

The waterproof watch
The GMT watch
The date complication
The automatic movement

>> No.58666514

>presenting useful information as memes

>> No.58666520


Yep, Self-winding rotor and Waterproof case are probably the biggest ones

>> No.58666557

Automatic movements have been around much longer than Rolex. It's just the 360 degree rotating weight that's new.

>> No.58666599

bumper movements are shit. oscillating weights made automatics viable

>> No.58666638

Keep in mind, the oscillating weight isn't truely first done by Rolex, as there were some watches in the 1700s made that way. But it was so few and elusive Rolex may not have known about them at the time.

But improving automatic mechanisms is categorically different from inventing it.

>> No.58667158

Should I buy a snk809 as my first auto being a poorfag and all? I've looked at a lot of watches but this one may fit my bitch wrists. I'm still a little apprehensive but am sure this is the best in its price range of ~ £60
Do I pull the trigger or are there any other alternative?
I'm a little worried about the strap like if I get a brown hirsch strap with it will this suit my light brown complexion

>> No.58667202

yes get it

>> No.58667268

I really like mine. I wear it a lot in the summer because it's small and light. And it's cool to show people the windowed caseback

>> No.58667430

Cheers for the replies guys I appreciate it.
What straps would you recommend

>> No.58667436
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How does a Grand Seiko compare to something like a Tudor Pelagos with in-house movement?

I mean in terms of quality, fit and finish, movement, ...

>> No.58667516

go for it

it's perfect for that role

>> No.58667991

Does /g/ really have a boner for Rolex and their richer-than-average-redneck watches?

>> No.58668266

If you read the thread you will soon see that most of us are in fact not exactly Patek collectors.

>> No.58668345
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If you go see some in person I think you'll notice a pretty big difference.

>> No.58668533

Are Tudors not as nice as Grand Seikos?

>> No.58668968

>poor faggot bitch rant

>> No.58668990

>while launching many significant innovations over the years

>> No.58669010

The new in-house Tudors are actually nicer than most GS.

>> No.58669101

Movement-wise sure, but in terms of finishing it's not even close.

>> No.58669171

good quartz moonphase?

>> No.58669357
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You guys are a bunch of insecure poorfags trying to compensate by wearing overpriced jewelry.

If you want to check the time, get something that does it more durably and efficiently. Pic related

>> No.58669403

The only one sounding like an insecure poorfag is you.

>> No.58669441
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Just got this beat up vintage automatic watch from a german micro brand, apparently a jeweller/watchmaker from Hannover, for just 27€ shipped from an eBay auction.
Not sure about the movement but I think it's ETA based. Do you guys like it?

>> No.58669444

Explain to me again how a $1000 Sinn is objectively superior to a Casio digital watch

I'll be waiting

>> No.58669455

You won't look like you live in your parent's basement still

>> No.58669473

Btw the seller claims that it's a steel case but the scratches tell me that it could be chromed plated brass like my vintage slavshit watches.

>> No.58669490

Haha I thought so faggot. Casio superior

>> No.58669567

Like I said. Go take a look.

In what way would you say they are nicer?

>> No.58669625

Because the Sinn, even though I don't like their designs, doesn't look like a plastic piece of crap.

Also, it will last longer, more than a few decades at least, wich is longer than any plastic Casio.

>> No.58669734

Oh my God are you trying to bash sinn again you never stop

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I had the same one in blue
My shitty ex gave it to me for valentines. It somehow fell the day she broke my heart, and the seiko logo fell off the dial.
I removed it and thought I would just wear it as a beater or something, but for the first and only time in my life, the springbar failed and it fell like 4 feet on concrete. Needless to say it doesn't work anymore, it's like the watch reflected my relationship.
Btw fuck you lisa

>> No.58669862

Why so insecure about your shitty Casio?

>> No.58669884
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There's literally nothing wrong with casio thoough. Sinn is my favorite mid tier brand however, and I need a 903 in my life.

>> No.58669893

Some unhelpful faggots you are

>> No.58670148

King Quartz or LM Special, /g/?

I already have a King Seiko so my need for hi(ish)-beats is pretty sated and I'm really just looking for something I can wear all the time

>> No.58670773

Are there any good quartz moonphases?

>> No.58670811

There aren't fucking many, just get whichever

>> No.58670921

Ok can you list all of them for me

>> No.58670967


>> No.58670986

What's your price range anon?

>> No.58671016
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Which KS model do you have? LM Specials can still be gotten for dirt cheap off Yahoo! Japan Auctions, but its definitely caveat emptor over there.

Maybe a penis quartz would be a more suitable choice for you, leave the drowning oneself on 52xx movements to me.

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Horween is some expensive stuff.

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Shell cordovan should be even pricier.

>> No.58671101


Just make sure you get some navy and some tan and you'll be able to sell at least two straps right off the bat. I'm literally holding off from throwing money at Combat-Straps waiting for you to get this shit sorted out.

>> No.58671288

What's reasonable ? I'm pretty open

>> No.58671396

You shut your dirty fucking mouth about Seiko

>> No.58671397

>mfw I want to post my collection in response to this post, but this is obviously a blatant bait

Hey m8. I read the list and I found it interesting. If you please, I'd love to see what watches you actually own, and I don't care if they are expensive or affordable.

Maybe. The BB is a bit thick already, at least my BBBronze is.

Congrats m8.

>shit chart is shit
Unless you're comparing especific models, no chart can succesfully reflect the brand's quality.

>How bankrupt would we all go if we won the lottery
Plenty I think. lol
That new Overseas is really good, although I prefer mine, it was sad to see the big date disapper from VC family.

My friend, you don't know much about this passion.

>Missing AL&S and still being an unuseful chart.

That's why I don't trust business models like kickstarter watchmakers.

>many significant innovations over the years
They undubtely refined and create some contruction technics, or developed next-gen materials, but I think you're pushing it m8.
I enjoy my Milgauss very much, but it's nowhere near the craftsmanship of IWC's annual calendar.

While not getting in the arguement of whats and whatsnot, none of those innovations belong to modern watchmaking era.

Get it, relax and enjoy it. And if possible, do post pics in here.

Both have their cons and defects.

Tudor's new caliber seems very good and reliable, but it needs to pass the test of time an I have yet to examinate in irl. However, their asthetics are more interesting.

GS, in the other hand, have workhorse movements that imho lack a bit more sofistication in their finishing, with "cotes de Geneve" being too shallow, hard and sterile, and in some cases no anglage at all, like >>58668345 but with overall great QC so you'll probably get a close to perfect dial, hands and case, to look at.

>> No.58671502

As someone else said, the one that seem insecure in here is you m8.
I love watches, and I don't need to give any more explanations about that.

Congrats! I like the big ass numerals. What are they painted with? Maybe tritium?

Maybe it's cursed?? Take it to a priest and see what happens. Shitty ex's tend to curse things, you know?

I like very much your KS my friend, but I think it needs some vacations in a warmer weather, don't you think? Send it over here.

What's is your budget? there are options from 350 usd to 10k.

>> No.58671610


Got a 5621-7000T because it was more or less mint and I liked the styling (full 70s), thinking of eventually going for one that conforms more to the Grammar of Design eventually because you can never have too many!

No pictures I'm afraid because it's 3am here and I'm knackered

>> No.58671748
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>that one guy whose bored so he decides to take a terrible picture of his 3 watches and applies a bunch of filters in an effort to make the picture less terrible

>mfw he forgot to wind one of his watches and didn't realize it until after taking the picture

>> No.58671775


I revise my previous opinion. You clearly need some Daini Seikosha in your life. If you want something full grammar of design then look for an LM Special 5206-6130 or a 5216-8020. Both have the iconic design language.

Keep in mind that the 5216 lost the instant day/date change at midnight the 5206 had to gain protection against people breaking the quick-set by using it between 9pm and 3am.

Of all the watches I own, that is the one I would part with last. It's the most accurate mechanical movement I've ever seen.

Actually, that's a a good question. Of all your watches, which would you keep if you could only have one?

>> No.58671983

>Montblanc being disregarded
>Sinn/Oris/Rado/Chopard/Longines/Hamilton/Breitling/Tudor being above it

At least Montblanc has movements developed in-house movements.


>> No.58672062


I don't think I'll be ordering any anytime soon, I think I'd want to order at least two hides at the least to outweigh the shipping costs so it'll be like, $500. Gotta save up a bit.

>> No.58672282
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are non-black straps w/ black dials okay (ie this one)? or just generally a no-go

hope you enjoy my grimy hands while you're at it

>> No.58672362


Whelp, guess I'll have to give money to a Quebecois. This disappoints me.

>> No.58672539
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I appreciate the pic anyway anon. I love collections pics.
Are those your entire collection?
cheers and saved

>Of all the watches I own, that is the one I would part with last.
Well, my friend, that can be easily arranged.
Where do you live?
>like, exactly

>Of all your watches, which would you keep if you could only have one?
If I'm forced to choose only one, and I mean at gunpoint to my head, rusty knive to my dick and balls, I'd sell all of them and buy something like a Greubel Forsey Double Tourbillon 30 (pic related), a JLC Hybris Mechanicca, or a ALS Tourbillon Perpetual Calendar Handwerkskunst.
Something REAALLY crazy.

>reality check
If I had to choose from what I already own, I think it would have to be something I haven't shown in here, my Datograph.

>are non-black straps w/ black dials okay (ie this one)?
No problem. Wear what you like m8.

The fact that some brand has in-house calibers is not as important as how those movements are made, or how sofisticated they are.

Montblanc has several grades among its familys, but Chopard, Tudor and Breitling make way better watches than Montblanc's base and entry level models.

The Villeret manufacture is something completely apart, and yet, sports the Montblanc name.

This is my problem with that shitty chart. You cannot compare brands as a whole, only especific models against each other.

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Questions for fun.

>Which you wear the most:

>What makes the watch mechanically/technically interesting

>Anything else unique or novel that compels you to wear it:

>Which watch, if given to you, would dethrone your most worn watch:

>What makes that watch mechanically/technically interesting:

>Anything else unique or novel that contributes to the dethroning

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first to identify this correctly wins a prize!

>> No.58672915
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It probably is an Omega DeVille Co-axial Chronometer

>> No.58673193
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>>Which you wear the most:
My Omega Speedmaster MOTFM moonphase

>>What makes the watch mechanically/technically interesting
Is as reliable as they come, sturdy as fuck, the bezel can take lot of damage without showing any harm, it has a chronograh, a date, a moonphase -wich is very useful to me-, it's comfortable and not that ultra expensive to service/repair/replace.

>>Anything else unique or novel that compels you to wear it:
MOTFM fuckers!!
(even if it's not the historically correct reference)

>>Which watch, if given to you, would dethrone your most worn watch:
the Omega MOTFM Aventurine Dial
the IWC GST Perpetual Calendar Chronograph

>>What makes that watch mechanically/technically interesting:
MOTFM Aventurine dial: SPACE, bitch!

IWC GST: Is an understated Perpetual Calendar Chronograph with moonphase in a 120m water resistant titanium case.

MOTFM AD: 44mm, so no that comfortable, and the dial might brake or shatter from a hard hit.

IWC GST: Probably not even nearly as sturdy, thicker, 43mm case, scratch magnet, more expensive to service/repair/replace.

>>Anything else unique or novel that contributes to the dethroning

>> No.58673412
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Where to buy pic related?

>> No.58673587

>fishing for (you)'s
>the only one to respond is your butt buddy

>> No.58673723


I love the case design and its character. I default to it because it seems to handle just about everything. Swimming, rock climbing, hiking, travel. Haven't had a single issue.

Unless it breaks I don't see anything dethroning it. I wear it often because it's a goddamn workhorse that I don't have to baby.

If it does manage to break, we'll see. Probably a sinn since by the time this thing breaks down those should be well within my price range.

>> No.58673886
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Citizen Nighthawk for pilots seems unique enough

>> No.58673925

Obris Morgan is literally impossible to buy.

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>> No.58673985

natos are good and cheap

>> No.58674035

That's a pretty good collection. Sporty, dressy, beater. Don't need anything else.

>> No.58674056
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>shits on the all powerfull chart
>can't afford any of the top level names

>> No.58674070

Most people here only have cheap watches with basic movements, so those questions don't have any good answers...
The watch I wear the most is a seiko 5, and what makes it interesting is that it's mechanical. That's good enough for me and as good as it gets with my budget.
And most watches could replace it.

>> No.58674083


You haven't been here very long, have you? Avacado has many of the top-tier in that chart.

>> No.58674094


They were a very limited edition, Japan-only iirc. And now they're a meme. So they're only available used and overpriced.

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You could have just asked for his (partial) collection pic like a non-retard, you know.

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>> No.58674437

why post a pic of a filthy pouch?

>> No.58674522

Can anyone recommend me a nice skeleton watch for about 300-440$?

I don't know much about watches, but i just think it's sad to not be able to see it all.

Also, it'd be my first watch ever if that matters :)

>> No.58674528

Get something with a display case back instead.

>> No.58674537


Got some dye on it, but I made it.

>> No.58674727

In two weeks I will be going to japan, primarily to ski in Sapporo but I will be staying in shibuya for a few days to do touristy things. I'd love to be able to pick up a grand seiko, what is the price range I would be looking at, and are there any reputable 22nd hand shops you would recommend? Should I consider anything else if it's available?

>> No.58674738

Jack Road is good

>> No.58674854

Why even have this many watches when you can't even wear them all in a week?

>> No.58674868

>What's the meaning of the Viet sentence?

"Shoot at the American helicopter you fucking retard!".

Commonly heard when flying over Saigon.

>> No.58674873
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You're not thinking creatively.

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>> No.58675079

>you can never unsee the clown face

Well, shit. And I thought it was a good looking watch.

>> No.58675719

>Whats your budget
Anywhere from that minimum 350 to 800

>> No.58675848

>Are those your entire collection?

Yes, 3 has always done it for me. Enough to be varied but not so much that I have to worry about maintaining a bunch of watches.

>> No.58676370


>Which you wear the most:

My 1975 King Seiko 5256-8010

>What makes the watch mechanically/technically interesting

The 52xx movements was the final high-end mechanical movement developed by Daini Seikosha before Seiko's high-end moved to quartz and is amongst the best series produced automatic movements every designed.

The 52 King Seiko Special was developed as Daini Seikosha's final statement of what they were capable of and was adjusted to a much higher standard than normal King Seiko's. According Seiya of Seiya Japan (who captured much of Seiko's unrecorded history by talking to the people who worked there), the KS Specials were adjusted to beyond base Grand Seiko levels. They also have a screw type micro-adjuster, greatly easing regulation.

My particular example appears to bear this out, running between +0s/d and +6s/d in six positions and on the wrist having run for 12 and 14 days at a cumulative +0s/d without ever having exceeded +/-2s in the first case and +/1s in the second.

>Anything else unique or novel that compels you to wear it:

It's a fairly definitive example of Seiko's Grammar of Design design language, has a white sunburst dial, rectangular baton indices and nice hands.

>Which watch, if given to you, would dethrone your most worn watch:

Grand Seiko SBGH001

>What makes that watch mechanically/technically interesting:

It sports what is very likely to be the single most technically advanced conventionally regulated movement in series production today. Because I regulate my own watches, I prefer convention regulation with a micro-adjuster to free sprung balances, and the 5hz beat rate of the 9s85 should somewhat compensate for the downsides of conventional regulation.

>Anything else unique or novel that contributes to the dethroning

A truly astronomical level of finishing and similarly Grammar of Design styling, but with a bracelet.

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Pretty good indeed, there's a strong identity to the entire Nighthawk range, along with the older Promaster Sky range leading up to it: thin bezel making for a large dials, distinctive markers and slide rule, sword hands, knurled crowns, and the shininess of the transparent dial above the solar panel makes for a highly recognisable design, certainly the most striking one of the EcoDrive range. I've been contemplating getting one of the radio-controlled sapphire ones from the older range, back then when this design started.

Though Citizen strangely hasn't updated them in a long time, pretty much the entire catalog has been updated, but nothing new on the Promaster/Nighthawk horizon, and it's apparently not being restocked anywhere. Might be the time to get one.

>> No.58676743
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>Hey m8. I read the list and I found it interesting. If you please, I'd love to see what watches you actually own, and I don't care if they are expensive or affordable.

Well for now I own:
>Rolex Explorer I
>Laurel Alpinist
>Seiko 6117
>Seiko Type II

And they're all back home. I've been spending the past few years in-between third world countries, where wearing an expensive watch isn't a good idea unless it appears utilitarian and beat up, and for now it's a SKX whose sole luxury is a custom bezel.

But I'll soon return to civilization with my hard-earned shekels, and finally able to wear whatever I want, and I'm planning to expand this little collection with more original, unique, and above all varied watches. To me it's all about the design, I don't really care whether it's cheap quartz or haute horlogerie as long as there's this little "something" that clicks for me.

I'm hopefully not going to buy all those watches, but I'm already set to begin with a Reverso, an Autodromo Group B and an Eterna Super KonTiki. Also surely an Accutron Spaceview and a Seiko G757 which will be smaller purchases. And I've added the QlockTwo W, Sarpaneva and pic related Vulcain Cricket Nautical to my list.

If you have well-designed watches to suggest, I'm more than interested.

>> No.58676809
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Does anyone one here have any experience with Seiko quartz watches with moon phase?
I kinda like this one that has a day/night and moon phase complication and the fact it doesn't have a seconds hand that goes tick tick tick is quite appealing.

>> No.58676980

that's legit

>> No.58677136

Eye candy

>> No.58677207
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>Pilot's Watch
>Mechanical Automatic
>1500$ max
Basically a watch to impress hipsters
Hit me with your best recommendations

>> No.58677339

I definitely need a higher resolution pic of this one, Lawyeranon.

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My 24H Raketa just came in the mail and this sunburst dial is making me hard, lads.

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Looks cool on a Bond nato

>> No.58677901

The real question is why wouldn't you want all of those watches?

Also, this

>> No.58677932
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I went to the GP manufacture today, it was pretty cool.

>> No.58678069

>>Missing AL&S and still being an unuseful chart.

Why buy a Lange when you can get a Patek? Serious question.

I'm talking objective, concrete quality here, not buying more expensive for the sake of it or "I prefer X design better".

>> No.58678144

>objective, concrete quality
>ALS vs Patek
M8 at that price point nobody cares

>> No.58678190


Could you share anything more about it? GP seems like a pretty cool watchmaker.

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>Buy a SRP773 from the US and order a bracelet from HK
>Both shipped in the same day
>Bracelet arrived in two weeks
>Still waiting on the watch

Just what the hell is going on.

Also, the poor man's Omega dynamic is working well.

>> No.58678413

where the fuck did you get this from

i need one

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Also, said Vostok Dynamic.

>> No.58679626

Look on ebay for "Raketa 24h" or "Raketa world time" but inform yourself a bit about this model first or you will could get franken'd.

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>> No.58680004

Whats the second from the left, first row? The oval one.

Also, is that an original Seiko aliens?

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What do you guys think?

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>> No.58680435
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I didn't think a Bell & Ross I liked existed.
I was wrong.

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It was a pretty standard factor tour, like you would see with patek/ap/etc, difference being that GP is quite a lot smaller. Though still as industrialized as bigger brands, which feels a bit off sometimes.

I also went to a horology museum nearby which had a bunch of cool shit, pic related.

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>go to GP factory
>take a picture of an old Seiko
Only on /wt/.

>> No.58680498

Dude did the strap cost more than the watch

>> No.58680516

What's a horograph

>> No.58680517

No you were right

>> No.58680536
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Why, yes it did.

>> No.58680566


Nice. How's the accuracy on it?

>> No.58680576
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>That I like
Nope. I was wrong.
At least make a clever joke if you make one.

>> No.58680586
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I did get to fondle the GP constant force while at the factory, but its kinda obnoxious to go take a bunch of shitty foto's. And you should Google that old Seiko :^)

>> No.58680620

>And you should Google that old Seiko :^)
I did. Doesn't make it any less or old or any less Seiko.

>> No.58680629
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OK lads, I fixed the hands. what do you guys think?

>> No.58680637
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What's /wt/'s opinion on Christopher Ward? The c65 trident looks nice as fuck desu

>> No.58680649

Why are you even here senpai?

>> No.58680672
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Not for Seikos or commie watches, that's for sure.
I'm just getting kind of bored by the constant Seiko circlejerk in /wt/.
I don't visit as often as I used to, but check in every now and then to see if it's still the same shit.

>> No.58680743

>using the smiley with a carat nose

>> No.58680821

It's caret

>> No.58680887

The big Christopher Ward ruins it.

>> No.58680895

>Christopher Ward
british invicta

>> No.58681006
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You can dislike Seiko all you want, but that doesnt Mean that quartz astron wasnt at the very least the most important watch they had in their collection, thus really cool and worth to post.
Here, have something non Seiko thats also really impressive

>> No.58681071

Posting to see if I've been banned

What notable brand wentry under the shitter during the quartz crisis

>> No.58681088

They're that bad?

>> No.58681115
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I'm buying this tomorrow, a £100 is a lot of money for a poor student like me and I just want to know that theirs nothing wrong with it.

>> No.58681165

Looks fine to me

>> No.58681331
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Some anon posted this in the last thread, does anyone know it's name?

>> No.58681493


NVCH-30 Reissue

>> No.58681499
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That looks like the limited edition of the Vostok Amphibia they made a while back, only for some Russian watch forum I believe. It's essentially a flashier remake of the original first generation Amphibias of the late 60's.

>> No.58681543

>You can dislike Seiko all you want, but that doesnt Mean that quartz astron wasnt at the very least the most important watch they had in their collection, thus really cool and worth to post.
But everybody has already seen it and know it.
I saw it at BaselWorld myself, and it was rather underwhelming.

>> No.58681569

no, I don't know "it is" name
it's a 31 jewel automatic vostok, and there are shitloads of different variations on all of their watches

>> No.58681658
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Your not very good with grammer are you

>> No.58681711
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Well I hadnt and thought it was cool.
I dont really take that much pics anyways.

>> No.58681740
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>That new Overseas is really good, although I prefer mine, it was sad to see the big date disapper from VC family.

Close ups on your VC mate? I'm keen to regret not studying law even more l

>> No.58681744

Oh btw about baselworld, how was it?
Is there a lot to see?
Going there this year but getting kinda mixed reviews from people.

>> No.58681769

Much better. But the two watches are sitting a little too close to each other for my autism

>> No.58681900

Not actually checked it properly, doesn't seem to lose much time at all

Probably should check, thinking about it

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Eh.. It was alright, but I reckon it's a lot more fun if you have money to spend, haha.
But interesting booths nonetheless.

>> No.58682395
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Just got my Sturmanskie commemorative edition Yuri Gagarin watch in. Pretty sexy for only $50 including shipping. My first real watch in over a decade.

My plan is to get an authentic Poljot watch in the $300 range once I'm ready to take the next step. For now, this will help me see if I really want something on my wrist all the time.

>> No.58682472
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Only the dead can know peace from this evil

>> No.58682493

Postmen are cunts, I bet those faggots didn't even bother to try and knock on the door or anything.

>> No.58682550


If you have a job then it makes sense.

>> No.58682610

Yeah I wasn't home but having to wait another day is hell.

>> No.58682784

>You cannot compare brands as a whole, only especific models against each other.
While I can see where you are coming from, if TagHeuer were to out of the blue release a fantastic watch I still wouldn't wear one due to the negative association that the brand name has. TagHeuer won't release a fantastic watch tomorrow out of the blue tomorrow because they know their reputation is shit and their role in the world is to produce shit.

The exceptions are way too few for the rule not to apply tbqhwy.

>> No.58682958

>buying fake slavshit

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>> No.58683425

Is there anywhere you can still find one? Or any chance of a rerun?

>> No.58683447

Bleh, quartz. Not one of the better reissues.

>> No.58683537
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There were originally plans for a not-limited 200m version (this is 300m), perhaps not gilded either, but I don't know if that is still true. Your best bet is to stalk Ebay and private sale forums Watchuseek and Watch.ru. You could ask on the latter to be added to the wait list but that seems like a lost cause.


>> No.58683612

Why'd you waste your money on ruskie shit?

>> No.58683643
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They work.

>> No.58684059


Hamilton khaki field is the only one I'd wear at any price desu senpai sjw maximus.

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I know, but it was only $45 total and I like the way it looks. I'm in a nursing student budget. Once I have my RN I promise to come back to you with a watch you could never afford on your call-center representative budget ;)

>> No.58684250

Only if you get lucky, mine didn't.

>> No.58684282
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Why are you a fag with poor taste?

Not everyone buys the same watch as you. Get the fuck over yourself.

>> No.58684326


That's cause you bought a POS fake.

>> No.58684346
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I must get lucky a lot.

>> No.58684475

Was there a Seiko price increase recently?

SNZH53 went up $30.

>> No.58684568


Currency exchanges bro.

>> No.58684589

where can i buy a good replica nowdays?

>> No.58684597
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So... was I right?
Where is my prize?

Looks nice. I could use a few of those.

Even if I didn't own any, that wouldn't mean the chart correctly depicts the quality of the watches.

>tfw some people actually saved my pic
Thanks anon. Somehow it makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

Well made skeleton watches are not available for that price m8, sorry. I think you have two options: either buy an openheart (that still wont be very well done), or opt for a crystal case back, that would let you see the movement.

RIght now I can't even wear all of them in a month, but the thing is, I love watches, a lot, and collect them is a great hobbie/passion.

lol my friend
How creative could one be before is extremely weird, NineBalls?
>inb4 watches in ankles and dick

In the 350-800 range I would suggest something like a Maurice Lacroix Eliros Moonphase (pic related) or some piece of vintage Seiko, like the ones you already posted.
Keep in mind the Maurice Lacroix is a bit averpriced for what it is, but imho looks really nice and fulfills the swiss meme checkbox (although is probably not totally swiss)

I like your collection m8.
And you're right, is a handfull.

>in-between third world countries, where wearing an expensive watch isn't a good idea unless it appears utilitarian and beat up,
And to think I have rode the subway with my Lange1 on my wrist, in NY, Mexico City and London.
From the models you cite I would first go for the Spaceview. It looks really cool and they are kind of becoming rare with the vintage love revival.
Have you taken a look into vintage Omegas?

This one looks pretty nice too.

Let me see what I can do, m8s.

Congrats anon.


>> No.58684636

>Maurice Lacroix

A brand with a fictitious name for marketing purposes with no horological history whatsoever.

>> No.58684718
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Well my friend, the thing is although I like Patek as a brand, most of their entry level models are not as well made as they could, in oposition to their most expensive; and this has always bothered me.

For example, if you look at pic related, you'll notice that both of these movements have the same mainplate but while the simple time looks very good, it doesn't has gold chatons, not are the cotes de Geneve really deep and the beveling or "anglage" isn't as wide as it could be.

Disregarding their PP seal, the manufacture actually has different standars for their watches, depending fo how expensive they are, and for me, it sounds like a lack of respect to their basic models and their customers.

I'll still buy a PP eventually, but for now, that lack of enthusiasm has stoped me from doint it.

And this in not mi opinion only, check this recent thread:

That's why I went for A. Lange & Söhne.

>> No.58684775

IWC Spitfire 3878
IWC Portuguese 3714-46
Breitling SuperOcean Abyss Chrono
Omega SM
Blancpain Fifty Fathoms
Tudor Heritage Ranger
Seiko Padi Pepsi Turtle
Seiko SKX007

If someone had a collection like that, what would you add?

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AL&S in the other hand, has the exact same stardar fo finishing to all their movements, disregarding if they are 40k -like one of mines-, 90k or 350k (pic related) the only thing that changes is the sofistications and complexity of the construction, due to the complications in place.

You can see here that the three calibers have exceptionally deep cotes de Geneve, bright and strong perlage, clean and wide anglage, and in all three cases the balance wheel bridge is hand carved with a gorgeous motiff.

In my humild book, A. Lange & Söhne is a better brand that PP and is the greatest not independet brand right now.

Plus, I like their designs more.

>> No.58684855

Do you have any JLCs? Is archie's claim that they're 'patek quality at rolex price' accurate at all?

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I really like multifaceted cases with hard angles and alternating finishes. That list strikes me as not having much of that, the speedmaster probably has the most of it.

GS Hi-Beat. Either GMT or non.
Or a 15202st.

>> No.58685174
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I sense the strap is more expensive that the watch, but I like the look.

I envy you m8. I haven't visited GP yet.

Then you could post and discuss watches of other brands, don't you think m8?

Go in youtube and you'll probably find a video fo someone showing how to use it. Learn it by heart and try to check it tomorrow before exchanging money. Best of lucks m8.

Well, that case looks pretty nice.


That sucks m8. Haven't you thought of haveing them delivered to your work?
I do this with camara equipment.

I also see what you mean, but belive me, you should try to judge a watch for itself, not the brand. For example, I don't really like Breitling as a brand, but I know one of the best quartz ever made came from them, and maybe I'll buy one, disregarding of its origin.

The guy is asking for a moonphase quartz for less than 800 usd and I think the Eliros looks quite good and is better made than some other cheap options.

This is precisely what I mean whe I say that you should judge the watch itself first, not the brand.

I fell you're lacking a more formal piece, an elegant one. How do you feel about JLC Classic Reverso family?

Yes, I have JLC and they are extremely, extremely well made, plus they are probably the biggest manufacture all around that develops haute horlogery, their familys are quite diverse, and also, their range of complications and decorations. I love JLC.

However, with the exception of the very special, they are not as well finished as AL&S or PP, but they do use decoration techniques others can't, and improvements other brands won't even dream to (see the new Gyrotourbillon 1).

>pic related, the calibers offered by JLC solely to the Reverso family.

JLC offers haute horlogery that sometimes can be bought for the price of an expensive Rolex, and I think that's what Archie means.

>> No.58685176


I'm not Lawyeranon, but I would argue that JLC's horological pedigree is so strong that it deserves to be considered in the same breath as the big four.

For one thing, as far as I know JLC has NEVER used an ebauche, while JLC ebauches have been used in PP, VC and AP watches.

>> No.58685354
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That would be my Audemars Piguet MIllenary 4101 and yes, the other is an original Seiko Aliens in LNIB condition I bought from and Edinburgh collector.

Here m8. Hope you like it.

>I would argue that JLC's horological pedigree is so strong that it deserves to be considered in the same breath as the big four.
Well said m8.

In fact, I would say that there should be a top5:

AL&S, PP, AP, VC and JLC

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>> No.58685631
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What's the closest I can find to this?

>> No.58685645

Lavvocato what are those things in your collection pic near the back left that look like tubes with a bell end

>> No.58685648


>> No.58685666

Vatek Cilippe.

>> No.58685669


>> No.58685791
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I think what more resembles what you're looking for, is the nixie watch, like pic related.
Be advised, those aren't very well made and also difficult to find, fragile and expensive. Best of lucks.

>someone should developp a better nixie watch, with real cases QC and shit

Those are watchmaker loupes. You put it on your eye and hold it with your face, but are quite useful. Those were given to me by some brands sellers and executives; I have like 15.

Vacheron Constantin


>> No.58685822

If you mean specifically a VFD display, just that one. Otherwise old LED watches are your best bet.

>> No.58686385

Why is Zenith El Primero so coveted?

Is the movement special in some way?

Does it have historical significance?

Personally I find it unappealing.

>> No.58686533

Not a fan of Reversos to be quite honest. It's difficult for me to accept them as true formal pieces considering the actual purpose of their inception. My Master Control is essentially my go-to for formal events. I also alternate with my Vintage Ingenieur (a tad thick for a dress watch but it's possible with certain shirt cuffs) for less formal events.


The AP just doesn't do it for me. With regards to the GS, I've looked through the line but I find too much of a semblance to my Vintage Ingenieur with the hands and the markers on the GS watches that I do like.

I'm kind of leaning towards adding a Glashutte PanoMatic or another JLC after selling off the SuperOcean.

>> No.58686540

36,000 bph, cool design on the original, first automatic chrono movement (although seiko beat them to market with the 613x)

>> No.58686798
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my dream watch being a speedmaster, being way out of my price range, i ordered a bulova moon watch.

really loving it.

>> No.58686857


Why wouldn't you just continue to save?

>> No.58686895

because this was expensive. if you can aford a $3k+ watch, you can't afford it.

someday i will ge a speedy, but that day is far away.

>> No.58686930

How loud is the automatic rotor/mechanism in the Seiko 5? Is it noticeable?

>> No.58687204

Its actually quiet as fuck. Probably the most quiet watch I own besides my Casio.

>> No.58687301

That moonphase disk looks nice.

>> No.58687449


It's not an expensive watch. It's actually fairly affordable.

>> No.58687465

Maybe in comparison to the top tier watches out there, but to most people (aka poorfags) dishing out $3k on a wristwatch just isn't something that can be done on the drop of a hat.

>> No.58687502


I'm not saying at the drop of a hat. Did you have to save for a year to buy that watch?

>> No.58687511

Not him bro. I could get a used speedy right now for about $3k, but I have shit I need to pay off first.

That and I'd rather save up for a snow frake.

>> No.58687703


Then you can't buy a 3k watch.

>> No.58687711

If I wanted to be financially irresponsible I could, but then I don't want to be.

>> No.58687768
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You can get a raketa one for real cheap. Its not bad :3

>> No.58688201

Autavia reissue?

>> No.58688626

That actually looks pretty good.

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>> No.58688661
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They make decent watches that are a pretty good price when on sale. I got pic related for less than £200 on sale.

>> No.58688858
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anyone ID the seiko on the top left?

>> No.58688888


>> No.58688940

what a waste of pentas

no this model doesn't show up on that general google search

>> No.58688962
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>> No.58688970

>not dagger hands
>not metal bracelet

>> No.58688996

SUR009. Increase your google-fu.

>> No.58689531

don't ever shitpost using my watchfu ever again

>> No.58689603
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Post your Amphibias, we need even more slavshit on /wt/.

>> No.58689624
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>not everyone has the same taste, idiot
>but your taste is shit
Haha, ok. Kind of shut down your argument there, buddy.

>> No.58689640
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>> No.58689744
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About to pull trigger on an snzf for 150 bucks. Is there a better diver for the price I don't know about?

>> No.58689776

For another $30 or so you can grab an Orient Mako/Ray, which are both very cool.

>> No.58689792

At this price point its this or the Ray II

>> No.58689805

If the one on the right didn't say "Diver's", I'd want one.

>> No.58689823

is the mako and ray better?

>> No.58689846

Better WR.
In-house movement. Which is nice.

Entirely objective, but better styling too.

>> No.58690113
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>> No.58690156
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>tfw I want to get rid of my chink 3,50€ denzel Washington watchwhich I bought just for fun to have more space in my box
>tfw too pussy to sell it on eBay and get reported/ bad feedback for selling chink fake shit
>tfw not stupid enoghyti just toss it in the bin
>tfw no gf to give it to and get good gratitude sex in return

Wat do?

>> No.58690168

Wew. When is this coming out and how much is it going to be?

>> No.58690169

mod it

>> No.58690175

>>tfw too pussy to sell it on eBay and get reported/ bad feedback for selling chink fake shit

How can a Daniel Wellington be faked to begin with? It's already chinese garbage.

>> No.58690192
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Amphifrankirskie reporting in

>> No.58690277

I like this idea, i could try to replace the dial for a handmade one, any design suggestion?

True, only real difference is the price tag.
I've compared it to my flatmate's real one and it's literally a 1:1 copy except for the case back. People who spent over 100€ on this piece of junk are tasteless retards.

>> No.58690391

I just opened the case back of the chink DW watch. Where do I have to press to release the stem and take out the dial?

>> No.58690432
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It doesn't look like I can access de dial by removing the movement, fucking dirty chinks.

>> No.58690448

Thanks anon

>> No.58690516
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This is probably next on my list, slide rules get me hard

Also pls r8 my to buy list for the next 4ish years:
>Citizen Nighthawk
>Seiko Turtle
After I graduate pill counting school:
>Sinn 903

>> No.58690653

I got my memeblue for the same price.
I would bump up to a ray ii if I were you

>> No.58690724
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Don't have an Amphibia but I do have a Komandirskie.

>> No.58690983


what's this?

>> No.58690989

Deep Blue, it's a brand that makes oversized shit watches

>> No.58691027


>> No.58691041


he has a point. anything over 42mm is just overcompensating for something tbqh.

>> No.58691075
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He's right. I have 7.5" wrists and wouldn't wear anything over 42mm

>> No.58691224

Stumbled across a watchthred a while ago, I don't have a watch yet, but would like one for when I go out so my arms are less naked. Since I'm relatively poor and a wristlet, the Timex Easy Reader seemed like a good choice.
Are there any similar in style/size/pricerange (€45 around here) you'd recommend?

>> No.58691237

Casio MTP line

>> No.58691258

>Vostok Super KonTiki

>> No.58691269

Cheers, those are indeed pretty nice too!

>> No.58691276
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>€45 around here

gold digi casio

>> No.58691284

>Really want to like these but they pull the fuck put of my arm hair

>> No.58691317
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I'll be in HK next week, anyone need me to check out anything or any pic requests while I'm there?

>> No.58691368


Yes. Sell that AP and buy a PP, VC, ALS or JLC instead.

>> No.58691385

I'll try on some ALS again. I'm really liking the VC tradionelle small seconds lately. No need to sell the AP though. Definitelyi not because someone on 4chan says to do so.

>> No.58691399

AP is a brand in decline tbqh. you'd be doing yourself a favor by selling it off.

>meme oak design on everything

>> No.58691465
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I brought that watch today and I love it. 10/10 would recommend for £100.

>> No.58691466


The Irish must be exterminated.

>> No.58691518

Whats a good hoemagee of this?

>> No.58691630

Nothing really.
You can't homage good finishing.

>> No.58691796
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Teaser for the next thread

>> No.58691800
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About to put the trigger on a used seiko quartz watch with moonphase but not sure about which one yet.

This one...

Pros: no seconds hand, day/night + moon phase complication
Cons: weird lugs but accepts normal straps, maybe a bit femenine looking

>> No.58691837
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...or this one?

Pros: cooler case design, AP inspired
Cons: second hands that goes tick tick tick, bad lug design that won't accept other straps, probably bad printing of the dial (see the Seiko logo)

>> No.58691860
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Mako/ray/usa 2 and the skx series is objectively better in every way.

>> No.58691868

They both look pretty bad, although if the second were not two tone it would be a massive improvement.

>> No.58691915
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What's wrong with two tone watches? I kinda like the 80s/90s yuppie vibe of it

>> No.58692420

Thanks lawyer bro appreciate the pic. You've cemented one my love for VC.

The dial alone.. Hngggggg

I hope it doesn't collect much dust while you wear your others

>> No.58692505
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From my gf for Christmas.

>> No.58692558
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Second hand, probably pic. related. Hipsters will most likely soil themselves.

>> No.58692623

From pic. some jewels have 2 (blue) screw, others have 3. In a few cases there are no screws.


>> No.58692631
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>> No.58692656

A typo. It should be Horrorgraph,

>> No.58692698

Any lume?

Design is tidy, but really, would it kill them to use the full area of the face rather than leaving the outer 5 mm bare??

>> No.58692761
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>buying a bell and ross without the iconic large numbers

you might as well throw your money away

>> No.58692786

Light skinned peoplr shouldn't wear gold it looks gaudy. The shittier your skin the more likely golf suits you. The opposite is true for silver

>> No.58692802

>buying bell and ross

you might as well throw your money away

>> No.58692975

this is also true

>> No.58693174

What'd your gf get you for your Christmas?

Meh I tan quite well in the summer

>> No.58693253

Except for old men.
Old men can wear gold as well.

>> No.58693298

they look extra sleazy if they do

gold is for clueless boomers

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