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Post your component list, rate other anons', ask questions in general.

Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.

>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons by vendor and compatibility filter.
https://pcpartpicker.com

>Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.
>Consider substituting an i5 6500 for an i3 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build
>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build
>Consider a B150 mobo for any i3 build
>Add a 240GB SSD to the "Great" tier build
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

>General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.
http://pastebin.com/9Pbm4nHL

>Information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc.
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

If you see any other build advice or part list threads, direct them here with >>>/g/pcbg

Previous thread: >>58392183

>> No.58402312
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Add a good sub 140.00$ ATX motherboard to this build. Pic related.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4ygnNN

>> No.58402420

>>58402312
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vbpKNN

>> No.58402434

how is this for an external cd drive?
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/19209/silverstone-ts06-external-usb-slim-optical-drive-enclosure-black

>> No.58402453

>>58402434
>USB2.0
It will do the job

>> No.58402461 [DELETED] 

>>58402420
Looks nice, but is ASrock a meme brand?
Never heard of them before.

>> No.58402465

>tfw want a new pc because want to upgrade to 4k and 4670k + r9 290 couldn't handle it
>tfw don't want to go with intel and nvidishill
>tfw have to wait for ryzen and vega

>> No.58402479

>>58402453
>reading DVDs at 10Gbps

>> No.58402505

>>58402465
Vega is expected to match a 1070/1080 performance level, that's hardly 4K itself. At 4K, you're probably gonna be limited to 60fps, which means your CPU isn't as important as it is for high-fps gaymen, zen should be able to do it, but the last 4 years of Intel also should do it fine
I honestly think vega is unrealistic for 4K, you're probably gonna have to go with nvidia for that if you're expecting this before 2018

>> No.58402526

>>58402505
I'm fine with high settings, maybe even turning it down to 1440p, and I'd prefer to avoid Nvidia for graphics cards.
But AMD themselves are promoting Vega to be able to push 4k, so we'll see.
Also, I'm not upgrading my CPU for gaymen, but for other tasks.
I'm just excited to have an all-AMD system after all these years ;_;

>> No.58402550

>>58402526
The exact same quote that said vega was for 4K said the 470 was for 1440p
I'm all for sticking it to the man but don't buy and if it turns out to be shit

>> No.58402559

>>58402550
I'll never go for the option equivalent to Nvidishill *80 pricing anyways, as the price to performance is just fucked beyond all belief, so I'm fine with Vega not being ubertopmeme

>> No.58402612
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Morning, sunshines, I have some trouble choosing a MB for kabylake. So basically I have a pci soundcard which I will keep at any cost, so it comes only to 4 choices (upgrading bios of 170 ones isnt a problem):
*MSI Z170A GAMING M3
*ASUS Z170-A
*ASUS PRIME Z270-K
*ASRock Z270 Pro4
After some thoughts I'd like to prefer asrock over other ones. Is there any particular reasons why I should choose another one for using and probably OCing 7*00k?

>> No.58402637

>>58402612
PCI to PCIe adapters exist
But let's not mention that PCI support hasn't been mandatory since broadwell, you're completely relying on motherboard hardware/firmware for PCI, it's out of the chipset and has mixed success with different motherboards and OS'es

>> No.58402646

Posting my first build and looking for some suggestions. What do you guys think? Trying to keep it at around $1000

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nMv49W

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>>58402612
Why the fuck would you prefer assrock?
That's the opposite of what you should do

>> No.58402680

>>58402646
Get more ram, fast ram at that (3000mhz is usually at good prices)
Get a better PSU brand
Looks gud tho

>> No.58402703

>>58402680
Don't you really only need 8gb though? Isn't 16GB a bit overkill? And is there any particular brand you would reccomend?

>> No.58402708

>>58402646
>Get 1 8 GB stick instead of 2 4 GB sticks, leave a slot for future upgrades, you can also get a single 8 GB stick for about $10 less than what you chose there
>Rosewill is known as Roseshit for a reason, get a proper PSU, that is the last thing you want to cheap out on
>That said, that system does not need a 650 watt PS at all, use this http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator to calculate what you really need
>Get a cheaper MB, ones around $80 are just fine
>Mechanical keyboards are a meme, save your money for a better GPU, you will be glad you did
>Use savings I've already enumerated to get a 1070, or stick to 1080p but get a better monitor
>Beware those random nobody sites surprising you with shipping costs that are not included in this list
>B&H charges no sales tax outside of NY so if you buy as much stuff as you can there you'll save an assload on tax, obviously compare and contrast the prices on amazon that have tax to B&H without tax, go with the overall cheapest, really useful for graphics cards

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I'm trying to get ahold of the Titan X Pascal from the NVIDIA site (since its cheaper to buy it through them), but they sell out in 2 seconds. How are you supposed to get one of these fuckers???

>> No.58402731

>>58402612
buy the assrock and oc then watch as the solder fails

>> No.58402747

>>58402703
Some games+programs use more than 8GB
8GB is like a minimum nowadays, even just for games
And seasonic is the go-to PSU brand

>> No.58402811

What's better? Laser or Optical mouse? Or does it not really make a difference?

>> No.58402833

>>58402708
>Get a cheaper MB, ones around $80 are just fine
Any particular mobo you would recommend?

>> No.58402844
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is 60 bucks a good deal for a X4 860k ?

>> No.58402879

>>58402833
Avoid no name brands, past that just look at reviews, because even companies that are generally okay have lemons sometimes. One thing to bear in mind is not to weigh one "My shit was DOA" review get to you and psych you out of buying a piece of hardware, people who have shit that goes fine tend not to write reviews, and everything ever made has some failure rate. If it has lots of reviews and 3 stars then avoid that shit though.

Also check the chipset to make sure the MB you're looking at has OC support, just in case you're unaware that is something to consider.

>> No.58402883

>>58402811
Optical mouses are usually more accurate than laser ones.

>> No.58402898
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>>58402883
Windows 10 uses optical mice to send high resolution images of your mousepad to Microsoft for malicious botnet purposes

>> No.58402918

>>58402879
>people who have shit that goes fine tend not to write reviews
This, but when my shit is fucked I become a loud mouthed American.

>> No.58402931

This is my first build, any feedback?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c3K3sJ

There's so many power supplies, I don't know which one I should choose...

>> No.58402945
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>>58402931
25TB/10

>> No.58402951

>>58402945
muh RAID 10

Blame Daiz for this.

>> No.58402960

>>58402879
You do realize that only the Z model Intel mobos support OC right?

>> No.58402969

>>58402951
Why even run raid for redundancy if a second drive is gonna fail by the time you rebuild 6TB?
Also why not use M2 NVME drives if you're going for muh futureproof meme?

>> No.58402977

>>58402647
>>58402731
what's the meme about asrock?

>> No.58402978

>>58402960
Depends, newer non Z boards can OC if you are willing to fuck with your BIOS, at least you could with Skylake.

>> No.58402993

>>58402978
Anon said this was his first build though. I doubt he wants to fuck with his BIOS.

>> No.58402997

>>58402977
They're not good

>> No.58403002

>>58402969
>Also why not use M2 NVME drives if you're going for muh futureproof meme?
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?78648-Maximus-VIII-HERO-M-2-or-RAID-not-both

>> No.58403005

I'm still with in the return period for my 6700k, which I bought a couple of weeks ago.
Would it at all be worth it to go for the minimal gains of the 7700k, if I can essentially get it for free? On Win 7 by the way.

>> No.58403008

>>58402978
I never heard that, I heard you had to downgrade bios on Z170 to OC non-K CPUs, on Z170 only

>> No.58403027

>>58403008
I'm pretty sure how it works is you need a Z mobo to OC an unlocked intel CPU.

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>>58403002
My gigabyte Z170 doesn't have this problem kek
Maybe it's because you're using HDDs

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Stupid question, if I were to remove the i3 processor from a dell inspiron 3520, could I use it in a PC build? If it is compatible, I don't think it will be a problem since the PC will be for older games like TF2, and I'm willing to buy a good graphics card.

>> No.58403138

>>58403027
That's how it's SUPPOSED to work. But with Skylake, there's a workaround where on CPUs with locked multiplier you can still increase the BCLK with the right motherboard and BIOS version.

>> No.58403153

>>58403138
Except that anon is getting an 6600k, which is unlocked.

>> No.58403170

>>58402309

Looks like an Amiga 600.

>> No.58403172

>>58403137
Desktop and mobile CPUs aren't cross swappable, except in the rare 10 gorillion dollar gaming laptops that use desktop CPUs.

>> No.58403193

>>58402844
yes but for 15 more you can get better shit

>> No.58403223
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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7nHWKZ

Give me the go-ahead.

>> No.58403255

>>58403223
She would be perfect except for the visible abs, I like a girl with no gut, but with a soft tummy.

Anyway

>Your MB is ludicrously expensive, you are literally paying twice as much as you should the hell is wrong with you
>Get cheaper RAM, you're getting ripped off there too
>Getting ripped off with your PSU too, change it
>Unless you really really like the look of that case you can get cheaper that's just as good

Otherwise basically okay.

>> No.58403279

Will I need to get separate SATA cables to connect my SSD? The one I got didn't come with any.

>> No.58403302

>>58403279
Unless they explicitly say they are throwing in SATA cables, do not expect them, most of the time they are selling the drive and nothing else.

>> No.58403331

>>58403302
What kind of SATA cable will I need? Will the power connector come from the PSU into the drive?
Also, will I need to get a tray for it or will the case include one?
Nothing I read included any of this extra stuff and I want this thing built by tomorrow.

>> No.58403363

>>58403331
Sata3 (6Gbps), basically the only one you'll find
Yes you'll also need a SATA power cable, your PSU should come with plenty
Depends on your case, some come with HDD trays that have SSD mounts in them, some require you to buy a $3 3.5"-2.5" adapter, some cases just have holes to screw/slide your SSD into place directly onto the metal
If you don't have any of that, you can Velcro your SSD anywhere on your case, toss it into an empty bay of any kind, or literally just leave it hanging, SSDs aren't affected by how they're mounted

>> No.58403400

>>58403363
Thanks a lot for your help.

>> No.58403407

>>58403331
Get some SATA cables, just search "SATA cable" on amazon, these are SATA cables for data

The power supply has the power supply cables for SATA devices running out of it, only one type will fit the SSD, so you'll know it when you see it.

>> No.58403415

>>58403363
One last thing actually.
The case I'm getting says it comes with two trays for HDD/SSD, but would it also come with the screws? Or would I need to buy them separately?

>> No.58403433

>>58403415
The case will have screws.

>> No.58403443
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>>58403415
I mounted all my drives with the power supply screws since I had extra
I don't know if my drives or case came with HDD bay screws, if they did I lost them

>> No.58403485

Should I buy a hyper 212 evo for my non-k i5?
It gets over 65 degrees under load

>> No.58403497

>>58403485
65° is fine.
Only get a cooler if the noise bothers you or if you're actually getting 85°+

>> No.58403502

>>58403485
It will help lower temps, but 65 isn't bad.

>> No.58403524

>>58402312
Gigabyte Z170X-UD3, nothing else and swapp the NEX for a G2 or preferrably a G3 PSU.

>> No.58403527

Is it bad to use a 4 pin PWM splitter to power two fans off the single header?

>> No.58403539

>>58403527
That's why they make the adapter you're describing

>> No.58403542

>>58403497
>>58403502
Thanks, the stock cooler is quite noisy though

>> No.58403562

>>58403539
You can also get 8 plug power boards that run off one wall socket but that doesn't mean it is safe.

>> No.58403586

>>58403542
Then get some cooler for like 20 bucks, Deepcool Gammax 300/400, Cryorig M9i or if you'rr from EU some EKL, Be Quiet or whatever you find.

>> No.58403591

>>58403539
I know its possible but what about the PWM line having two signals?

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nice video game consoles

>> No.58403678

>>58403527
Most headers support max 1A, just look at the fan specs and if both combined are less than 1A, its fine.

>>58403591
Usually the splitters will have one 4pin and one 3pin so one fan's PWM signal controls the speed of both fans.

>> No.58403688

>>58403562
From what I'm seeing online, there is no standard max amperage through a fan header, but people are regularly pulling 1 amp+ through a single fan header on older motherboards
Noctuas website is shilling their fan as "ultra low power .06 amps" compared to "standard 2 watt (.16 amps) fans"
So I'm assuming, even with "normal" efficiency fans, you could put 2, 3 or even 4 off of a single fan header safely
>>58403591
But the PWM pulse comes from the motherboard, there's only one PWM signal. The fan speed sensing pin might be a bit inaccurate but it shouldnt affect how your fans work

>> No.58403707

>>58402646
A 24" monitor really is worth the extra money. Check www.acerrecertified.com for good deals on monitors. I've read great reviews on the scratch & dent items.

>> No.58403742

>>58403255

Do note it's AUS prices.

>> No.58403754

>>58402931
Make sure you have enough sata cables. I doubt your mobo comes with 6. They cost $2. I'd get a 650w psu with at least an 80+ bronze rating, and make sure it comes with at least 6 sata power connecters. Dont buy Rosewill.

>> No.58403765

Repostan in new bread

I got a 120GB Kingdian because I was going for a relatively budget build but with Christmas sales and a bonus from work, I ended up buying an 850.
What the fuck do I do with the Kingdian?

>> No.58403772

>>58403765
Put virtual machines on it

>> No.58403775

>>58403742
msy has that mobo for cheaper

>> No.58403777

>>58403742
I did, even considering that those items are far more price inflated than several other things he has there that are close to being reasonable, considering it's Australia. I refuse to believe a typical motherboard sells for 240 kangaroo bucks there.

>> No.58403809

>>58403765
>2017
>buying KingDian
Chinkshit SSDs and sharks had a good run but since the chinks raised the prices they aren't worth it anymore.

>> No.58403812

>>58403775
cancel that, I bought the same one last week from them for $209, now its 259. Must have got a pricing fuck up special

>> No.58403817

>>58403809
I got it on 11/11 for a whole 40 aussie bucks.

>> No.58403819
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Check out my overwatch and wow box. I can't believe how well it's running, I'm even able to play ultra with render scale at 150% in overwatch. Max settings in WoW too. Both at 60 fps 1080p. All for the price of a craptop at walmart. I got a 22 inch 1080p TN panel for $50 on craigslist. My friend gave me his old mechanical keyboard and I had a mouse I used to use with my laptop.
Who else /poverty/ build???

inb4 you wasted your money on old outdated shit should have bought a amd chip and a rx 460.
overwatch/wow/diablo/rocket league/lol don't give a fuck about the architecture, they almost fully utilize the gpu regardless of age, which is nice.The 770 benches higher than a 960 in ow.

Next I think I'm going to buy a new power supply just because I don't trust this one.

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>>58403812
>motherboard manufacturers can just tack on 50 digeridollars just because, and nobody can stop them

>> No.58403843

>>58403819
I mean good for you, but all those games are easy to run so it's not super impressive that you spent 300 bucks on a mediocre build.

>> No.58403858 [DELETED] 

>>58403223

here
let me fix that

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/jVgnNN

>> No.58403873

>>58403817
>11/11
Chances are you got chink'd, they usually raise prices before 11/11 and/or """rebate"" from the original MSRP which they never ever sell the products for.

>> No.58403886

>>58403835
Just MSY being jews.

>> No.58403888

>>58403873
I used that price checker thing that was posted a lot and it was indeed a "sale" back to the original price after being raised a few weeks prior.

>> No.58403895 [DELETED] 

>>58403223


let me FTFY

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/4nFZqk

>> No.58403897

>>58403819
You should have waited for ryzen. Prices will drop everywhere mang.

>> No.58403903

>>58403888
See, that's why i don't buy chink shit anymore unless i need it or it's really on sale. Fuck those semitic chinks.
For SSDs i'll stick with PNY CS1311, SanDisk Ultra II and Samsung 850 EVO.

>> No.58403918

>>58403903
I did get an 850, which leads back to my question of what I even do with a spare 120GB SSD.

>> No.58403933

>>58403223

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/cvC8xY

>> No.58403961

>>58403918
VMs as some other anon suggested, dual boot for Linux, swap out some old HDD in a laptop or sell it online.

>> No.58403979

>>58403933
Fixed it for you laddie

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/vwFZqk

>> No.58403992

>>58403918
Use it
Like what kind of question is this?

>> No.58403993

>>58403979

that's retarded and you should feel bad

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>>58403897
>2500's and GTX 770's
The shilling just will not stop will it

>> No.58404002

>>58403993
It's retarded to spend less money on RAM and get the same quantity, and get a higher rated PSU for less money? Are you a 14 year old Australian practicing being a sick cunt online?

>> No.58404003

>>58403933
>>58403979
Both are shit and you should both fuck off.

>> No.58404071

>>58403843
I mean $300 for something that is likely going to out-perform an i3 6100/rx 460 or gtx 1050 build in every game is really good.

>> No.58404079

I'm a good damn retard.
I was so happy with my new PC until i found out it had Cool Whine.
How do i prevent that from happening ever again??
I did research on the parts of course before i bought them.

>> No.58404092
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>I still have a 660ti

what can i do about this?

>> No.58404107

>>58404079
Identify the part causing it, RMA, get a new one, hope this one is better.

>> No.58404124

>>58404079
My PC has it as well. Why does it bother you so much? Just buy loud fans to cover it up with white noise.

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>>58404092
Sell it and use the money to take your local qt on a date

>> No.58404150

I haven't looked at upgrading for almost 8 years and I've forgotten everything about what to do and where to start

I'm so fucking lost

>> No.58404157

>>58404150
Do you play video games

>> No.58404158

>>58404150
Logical increments, google the current CPU and GPU lines as needed.

>> No.58404159

>>58402612
>Assrock
Get gigabyte you retard.

>> No.58404170

>>58402977
Unreliable.

>> No.58404183

>>58404107
>>58404124
But coil whine is only sound yeah?
It does not make my performance go down or hurt my part?

>> No.58404190

>>58404183
Of course not, just sound. Nothing to worry about.

>> No.58404201

>>58404183
Harmless, just annoying.

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>>58404139
>Sell it and use the money to take your local qt on a date

How much would it even sell? Enough to cover postage?

>> No.58404220

>>58404157
I want to, current is a microATX prebuilt I got as a lil kidder, with 1.3ghz and equivalent of notebook integrated graphix, so I need a complete newbuild

Additionally, I'm looking to use the PC for work as well; Mech. Eng student so I'm sure what sort of GPU to get to support AutoCAD and Solidworks at a good clip.

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Looking to upgrade to 1080p/1440p 144hz gayman.

I also do a lot of music recording and editing. What monitors are decent and will Vega deliver? Freesync yay or nay?

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>>58404220
Get 6700K/7700K CPU, Z170/Z270 motherboard, and if you're at 1080p and 60hz, a RX480/GTX1060
Solidworks doesn't need a 24GB ECC OpenGL powerhouse for school projects, one of those gpus should keep those programs moving fast enough, and the 6700k/7700k CPU have hyperthreading, which 3D modeling programs take full advantage of
There is practically no difference between 6700K+Z170 and 7700K+Z270, that's more of if you simply want the newest or not, the K means it has idiot-proof overclocking
Get plenty of ram, and fast ram since Z170/Z270 can use fast ram, 16GB 3000mhz ram is usually at decent prices
Get an SSD, and the another SSD or an HDD depending on how much porn you hoard
Get a case of your choice, an evga G2 or seasonic anything power supply of 550w or more
You'll need a CPU cooler as well
Don't forget your programming panties
Of course this will all change depending on your budget

>> No.58404424

>>58404325
Thanks for the outline, sounds good, you're a lifesaver. My budget's low at the moment so I'll probably take the rung below and work up, or piece it together over time

>Another SSD or HDD depending on how much porn you hoard
More anime honestly. And good lord the obscene drawings of the new Nier MC, 2B's boobies.

Additional questions;
>Should I fall for Windows 10 or pirate 7?
>What do I need to keep in mind for cases and motherboards?
>What do I need to keep in mind so that I can think about upgrading to multiple monitors?

>> No.58404505

>>58404325
Imho Z170 + 6600/6700 K is they way to go if you're too impatient to wait for Zen, Kelvin Lake sucks ass.

>>58404424
>mobo
Sweet spot for Z170 is 109-139 USD, choose one with features you like.

>case
Don't overpay. Good budget cases are CM N series, Tt Versa H series and Deepcool Tesseract.
More expensive options are Enthoo, Fractal Design and Be Quiet.

>> No.58404590
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I have pic related, I can sell my MSI 1060 6G.
What would I get if I swapped this to an Gigabyte RX480 8GB G1 OC?
Obviously the following
>2GB more VRAM
>backplate, RGB
>vulkan
>no drivers [still a thing? I've experienced driver crashes on my 5770 and 7770, I've yet to experience a single crash on my 1060]

Here are some games I play
>DaS 2/3, TW 2/3
>Dota2. Overwatch
>Terraria, Stardew Valley
>Ragnarok, Diablo 3, FOTM mmos

>> No.58404602

>build first rig
>doesnt work
>shit.png
>go through troubleshooting
>finally know whats wrong
>motherboard is fucked
>panic.png
>its ok i can return and get a replacement
>get the replacement 2 days later
>have to rebuild again
>sweating.png
>turn everything on
>doesnt work
>are you serious.png
>can feel tears coming
>check the fan connector
>I put the cpu fan in the wrong connector
>switch it around
>it works

For a first time build I can honestly say these past 3 days have been the most stressful, fuck parts not working out the box, working with thousands of dollars of components and you get fucked over by one part thinking you just fucked everything up.

blog over

>> No.58404612

>>58404424
Windows 10 is objectively the better OS but it has that ol' botnet fucking you in the ass. Also the home edition is free from Microsoft
Make sure your case is the right size, ATX or mATX or whatever
Motherboards are tough because they all suck. Get the right chipset (Z170 can overclock and use fast ram, but isn't necessary if you're not overclocking or getting a K CPU). Check reviews. /g/ likes gigabyte ultra durable shit
Multimonitor depends on what you're doing with it. If you're not running two GPU heavy tasks at once like rendering a project and playing a game, or playing a game on both screens together, it might be worth it to get a stronger GPU like a 1070
But if you're not running two GPU heavy programs, you don't need anything more than a 480/1060, an extra desktop screen or chrome browser isn't gonna demand anything from the GPU

>> No.58404627

>>58404602
>Building a PC is hard/stressfull
Nigga shit's easier than Lego's

>> No.58404629

>>58404590
You'd likely gain absolutely nothing whatsoever
Are you having problems hitting 60fps with that 1060?

>> No.58404633

>>58404590
A decrease in FPS in every single game you play. Especially overwatch. Get your free 10% OC and enjoy the 1060. Those are all nvidia favored games. Rx 480 is slightly better at some AAA

>> No.58404663

>>58402708
wont single stick totally fuck up games performance instead of dual channel?

>> No.58404676

>>58404629
>>58404633
Nah not really, I've playing all those games at 60fps+ ultra settings on 1080p.
What got me into thinking about swapping it is because of comparisons between them now that they've released several driver updates and it seemed like the RX480 is starting to take the lead.
And admittedly I also love backplates as I'm planning to get the S340 Elite when its price drops.
I'm a filthy subtle ricer.

>> No.58404685

http://ark.intel.com/products/97143/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G4560-3M-Cache-3_50-GHz

>3.5 ghz
>2 cores/4 threads
>64$

OK, where's the catch? I just need something for internet and some occasional light gaming. This will do?

>> No.58404703

>>58404676
1060 will most likely stop getting optimizations through driver updates in a year or so.
AMD cards tend to last longer because AMD supports optimizations and performance increase for older gen cards for much longer than NVIDIA does.

>> No.58404722

>>58404676
They're still about the same performance just like when they were released. It was 2% better to have a 1060 then and it's 2% better to have a 480 now, it's not anything to worry about

>> No.58404754

>>58404663
No.

>> No.58404769

How often do you guys upgrade?
And how often do you guys clean the pc?

>> No.58404788

>>58404769
I have too much money so about every 3 months, and I have it cleaned weekly.

>> No.58404803

>>58404769
I upgrade when my computer becomes too dusty to turn on

>> No.58404955

>>58404769
Once ever 8 years

>> No.58405018

>>58404769
>How often do you guys upgrade?
Every year. Went from Ivy Bridge to Haswell to Broadlake to Skylake. Waiting for Kaby Lake parts to come in.
And I start fresh every time because I feel anxious about using year-old worn parts.
>And how often do you guys clean the pc?
Compressed air once a week. Take down clean up once a month. Don't know why I even bother anymore, they become worthless to me after a year or so.

>> No.58405054
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I mean, it works, but what
yeah i know >EVGA

>> No.58405061

>>58404676
The 1060 will still last you like 3 years.

>> No.58405107

>>58405018
Must be nice to be so incredibly wasteful, unless you sell the parts on ebay or something. CPUs don't die. I've used ones from the early 90s that still function just fine.

>> No.58405153

>>58402465
Crossfire lol

>> No.58405166

>>58405107
How do you package up CPUs you sell so they don't die of static in the post? I'm going to upgrade and I won't need my 2500k anymore, might as well make some money.

>> No.58405177
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XGccyf

>USA
>Not really a strict budget but 2500 is about where I was willing to draw a line.
>Gaming, Media, Twitch, Digital Artwork, video editing in the future.

Here's what I've got. I placed a pretty high priority on achieving the black and silver aesthetic. Only parts I'm still waiting on are the Mobo, Processor, and HDD.

I took a lot of inspiration for this build from this build: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/zd4CmG

I really would like to get custom cables and cable everything the way this guy did as it looks really organized and the silver cables would fit the black and silver theme I was trying to stick to.

When it comes to placement of the radiators for the CPU and GPU I would do it the way he did if possible but I'm not sure if my case will allow that. This will be my first time building a PC.

>pic related is the look i'm going for

>> No.58405178

>>58405166
I sold mine a year or two ago, if you don't have the plastic thing it comes in you have a few options. I put it in a ziplock bag, in the corner, let the air out and wrapped it tight. then I put it in a padded envelope which went into a box with bubbles in it

>> No.58405195

>>58405107
Why the fuck would I sell used parts? I keep them on a shelf. I've got a Z77, Z87, and a Z97 board on my shelf with the CPU (3770K, 4790K, 5775C respectively), heatsink, and RAM still in place. Same goes with my GPUs (pairs of GTX 770s, 780 Tis, 970s, and 980 Tis). That's all they're good for, collecting dust in the background.

>> No.58405208

>>58405195
It must be so hard for you to go about day to day life.

>> No.58405222

>>58405208
What's so wrong about that? I can afford to buy and replace entire computers once a year. Go cry about being poor elsewhere.

>> No.58405271

>>58405222
Christ you're really defensive huh

>> No.58405330

>>58405271
And you are a poor crying baby.

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>>58405018
>Every year. Went from Ivy Bridge to Haswell to Broadlake to Skylake. Waiting for Kaby Lake parts to come in.
Good goy.

>> No.58405412

>>58404002
Worse PSU with higher wattage just wastes both money and electricity.

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>>58405330
IF ONLY I HAD ENOUGH INCOME TO LEAVE A THOUSAND DOLLARS OF USELESS SILICON ON A BOOK SHELF I WOULD BE SO MUCH HAPPIER WAAQAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MOMMMMMMY

>> No.58405483
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>Waiting in all day for components to be delivered
>They don't come
>Tracking website still says out for delivery

This is the worst fucking thing in history.

>> No.58405487
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58405487

>last part was supposed to come in today
>they tried to deliver it 30 mins. before my apartment complex opened
>"Delivery will be re-attempted the next business day."

>> No.58405569

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RrZcyf

Helping my dad create a build between $450 to $550 dollars. He wants to do some recreational video editing among other things, so I tried getting him something with a little power to make it easier. We have additional hard drives we're going to put into it. Anything I should consider or reconsider?

>> No.58405606

>>58405569
Get a PSU that isn't total shit. Also, you're paying WAY too much for a 750 ti, that shit isn't even worth $60 and you can get a RX 460 or a 1050 for $100.

>> No.58405613

>>58405487
I would literally kill someone. Get to the UPS place or call them and freak out and tell them that you'll meet the driver some where.
>>58405569
The locked i5s suck major dick because they're clocked so low. An overclocked 2500k is superior to almost all of them.

>> No.58405643

>>58405569
Wait for Zen and get the 4C8T CPU.

>> No.58405692

>>58405569
>GTX 750 Ti
Why? If he needs a dedicated graphics card just get a RX 460 or GTX 1050, they're much better and cost almost the same. You should also cosider just using the iGPU of your i5.

>>58405613
I'd rather give my parents a locked processor rather than some outdated juck that needs a massive cooler running at 3000rpm to keep it below 80 celcius under load.

>> No.58405707

>>58405692
Or you could spend a bit more and use a 6600k on a locked motherboard, or get a 7600k they are clocked a bit higher.

>> No.58405714

>>58405692
>Not assembling and pre-overclocking a PC with a 6700K and H100i, running at 5GHz

Do you even love your parents?

>> No.58405717

>>58405707
and i5 7500 i mean, not 7600k.

>> No.58405730

>>58405707
Getting a 6600k over 6500 is a waste of money if you're not going to overclock.

>> No.58405741

Is not having noise insulation in case bad thing?
I run old CM case that are just sheets of metal and its so quiet I can barely hear
Im just worried about next build

>> No.58405743
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58405743

>>58402309
Speccy shows 4 gb instead of 8 gb for the 1080. Runs any current game, and renders video without problems

>> No.58405762

>>58405730
>22% faster stock vs stock
>$20 more
>waste of money
the i5 6400, 6500, and 6600 are complete rip offs and you are brain dead if you buy one

in this situation since it's not his computer he doesn't really have to give a shit

>> No.58405765

is silentium shit brand?

>> No.58405857

>>58405762
>22% faster stock vs stock
6500 has 3.2 GHz base and 3.6 turbo vs. 6600k's 3.6 base and 3.9 turbo. That is nowhere NEAR 22%. And the 6600k is $50 more expensive in addition to requiring you to get a cooler separately and consuming more power.

>> No.58405861

Hey /g/,
Could i get some feedback on my upcoming build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pG8Tjc

I'm from Europe.
The pc is gonna be used for gaming and programming when working from home.

Not sure if i need a better PSU

>> No.58405882

>>58405857
>requiring you to get a cooler separately
If you don't have a dozen Intel stock coolers kicking around I'm not sure this board is for you.

>> No.58405892

>>58405882
First build in 10 years.
Lost all spare parts last time i moved.

>> No.58405914

>>58405861
Seasonic doesn't even make bad PSUs and 520W is plenty for the build. That said, good 80+ gold PSUs are pretty cheap these days so you might want to consider spending a little extra to get one instead.

>> No.58405926

>>58405861
The PSU is fine. The build in general looks fine. Myself I'd add a HDD but if 250 giblets is enough for your purposes then don't bother.

>> No.58405936

>>58405861
>Not sure if i need a better PSU

http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

I put your build in quickly and it suggests a PSU of >331W. 520 should be plenty.

>> No.58405939

>>58405914
Any specific brand / model you can recommend?

>> No.58405980

>>58405857
My bad, it's 15%. Not 22%. Just ran a bench on my stock 6600k. http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/2516397
Quadcore integer and float score of 439, vs the average of 381 for the 6500. So 15% faster. I'm using a stock intel cooler I've had forever. Paid $230 for the 6600k. The i5 6500 is $204, so my 6600k was 13% more expensive while being 15% faster. The fact is that doesn't amount to a "waste" no matter how you look at it. Don't be mad just because you mindlessly followed some retarded guide from the OP or reddit.

That said blck overclocking on the i5 6400 with a ~100 dollar z170 board has been by far the best value buy all generation.

>> No.58405981

>>58405939
Evga seems to be popular these days, but anything manufactured by Seasonic or Superflower should be good. Depends on what you can get for a good price in your country.

>> No.58406016
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58406016

did i do this correctly?

getting gpu in the next few months.

>> No.58406026

>>58406016
Yes, it looks fine.

>> No.58406033

>>58402312
Swap the i7 for an i5 and put the proceeds into an SSD

>> No.58406087

Hi /g/.
I'd like advice on this build : https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/s9jnNN
The 1070 may be too much for 1080p/full details, but I don't want to buy a new card in a couple of years.
I would like to keep it around 1200€. I already have a hdd.

>> No.58406126

>>58405606
>>58405613
>>58405643
>>58405692
Thank you for the suggestions. I didn't realize I could get better for the same price. Also, I'm on a time short time limit for this, so I can't really wait for anything to come out.

I went back and modified the list a bit. It's a bit more, but I'd rather have something good. Hopefully, the part selection is better since I changed the CPU and got a better PSU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/msckbj

Anything I should consider again?

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Any britbongs selling old cpus / gpus?

I want to build my first PC but i'm on a tight budget and want to buy at least the cpu used. Thought I make one of you faggots richer if you got an upgrade this christmas.

pic unrelated

>> No.58406456

>>58406126
It's shit and if you have tp ask why you should probably buy a prebuilt.

>> No.58406486

i5 6500, b150 or h110?

>> No.58406487

redpill me on this monitor
27 inch 2160p IPS 5ms response time freesync 99% sRGB flicker-free for around 400 euros
looks too good to be true for that price so where is the catch?
also how is hidpi support on gnu/linux?

>> No.58406503
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>>58406487
LG 27UD68P
pic related

>> No.58406555

>>58406456
Nope. I'm here to learn and get advice. I'm clearly behind on everything and trying to catch up, so only saying it's shit and nothing else isn't helpful.

>> No.58406575

>>58406486
http://ark.intel.com/products/90590/Intel-H110-Chipset
http://ark.intel.com/products/90592/Intel-B150-Chipset

If you have to ask, you most likely won't need the extra features of B150.

>> No.58406582

>>58406486
Don't buy it, the locked kaby lakes are way better. The i5 6500 is clocked low.
You could
locked kaby/h110
unlocked skylake/h110
i5 6400/z170 for BLCK OC
and get better pref
>>58406555
He's over exaggerating and saying it's shit because you went with a b150 board and an unlocked CPU. Fact of the matter is that the clocks on the 6600k make it 15% faster than the 6500 for 15% more money, so it's fine if you absolutely cannot afford the z170 to oc it. Or maybe it's because he thinks the rx 460 is better than the 1050 or something. Fuck that nigger.

>> No.58406763

>>58406582
Okay, I see now. This is for my dad and not me, so there won't be any overclocking. I know that for sure.

Thank you.

>> No.58406821
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Any advice where to find a good, cheap, and OC friendly LGA 1336 MOBO? Trying to save an i7-960. Thanks for the help in advance :)

>> No.58407241

>>58404612
>>58404505
>>58404325
>>58404158
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KP8Zqk

Alright, how's it look?

>> No.58407477

>buy a new computer
>motherboard is broken, so I need to wait for the RMA process to finish before I can use my new PC

is there anything worse?

>> No.58407612

>>58407241
How about this: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KdfpVY

>> No.58407754

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WgCwCy

Hello please recommend me a mobo and case for the build I have linked. My intention is to heavily game on this PC and to OC the CPU, RAM, and GPU.

>> No.58407773

is it safe to reuse high quality psu in 3 or more builds, ofc in span of few years

>> No.58407805

Crucial MX300 or OCZ TR150 as ssd?

any problems with any of them?
(I dont want samsung)

>> No.58407839

>>58407477
This happened to me with that terrible gigabyte h110m motherboard on amazon for like $50. It's the thinnest PCB i've ever seen. I checked everything too, couldn't see anything physically broken. Then the replacement came and it was broken too.

>> No.58407856

>>58407477

>RMAing instead of buying a new motherboard immediately while returning the defective one to the vendor.

For what purpose?

>> No.58407884

>>58407754
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cbfpVY

>> No.58407928

>>58407856
don't have that kind of money i had to save for over a year to do this

>> No.58407947

>>58407928

You get refunded when you return the other mobo to the vendor...

Hell you could have bought the same exact mobo from the same vendor as you returned he other one.

>> No.58408044
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58408044

I'm building a PC I'll be gaming and doing digital illustration for the most part. What graphics card should I buy? I've been trying to find a good one for the money; and everyone has been steering me away from Radeon chips but offering no alternatives.

>> No.58408106

>>58408044
You're not even giving us a budget, you mongoloid.

>> No.58408129

>>58407612
Good changes, though I'm keeping the cube case.

>> No.58408136

>>58408044
GTX 1080 Ti is coming out soon. R9 490/Big Vega is DOA, can't even match a 1070, let alone compete with a Titan X.

>> No.58408185

>>58408044
yeah nvidia fanclub is strong on message boards

>> No.58408196

>>58408136
>R9 490/Big Vega is DOA, can't even match a 1070

It's almost as good as a 1080.

>> No.58408220

>>58408196
No it's not. Even the Vega 10 demo rig AMD provided couldn't match a 1070's Vulkan performance in Doom. And this is a piece of silicon that's as large as the GP102 in the Titan X.

>> No.58408239

It's time to finally upgrade my old Sandy Bridge setup (i7-2700K + GTX 970) mostly for the new mobo chipsets and M.2. This is what i'm getting: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tWvjqk

Already bought the case. I'm iffy on the AIO cooler but I want to try my luck at overlocking the 7700K to 5GHz for e-penis reasons and this had good benchmarks.

Planning on upgrading to a 1440p display once a model with HDR, IPS, and G-Sync is out. Currently have a 1080p 144Hz GSync monitor to tide me over.

Cannibalizing three 1TB HDDs, a Blu-ray drive, and a SoundBlaster ZXR from the old setup and selling the rest for $500-$600 altogether.

Fuck waiting five months for an AMD release that will just be catching up to 1 year old parts for around the same price. I've been doing this too long for fall for the marketing hype again.

>ignore the prices, picking up a mobo+cpu combo at Microcenter for $40 cheaper
>ordering everything from Amazon for free, fast shipping
>probably getting different RAM depending on what's available

>> No.58408319
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>>58408106
$300 and under.

>> No.58408332

>>58408319
GTX 1070 on sale or a GTX 1060 6GB

>> No.58408358

>>58408196
>Vega is DOA, can't even match a 1070
Source or GTFO, nigger.

>> No.58408409

>>58408358
nvidia uber alles

>> No.58408457

>>58408358
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5mre3k/a_look_at_the_vega_gpu_and_ryzen_cpu_performance/
Vega 10 is slower than the 1080 with OpenGL and Vulkan CONFIRMED.

>> No.58408509

>>58408319
RX 480 8GB. Anyone saying otherwise is a paid Nvidia shill.

>> No.58408537

>>58408509
you mean 99% of board?

>> No.58408541

>>58408319
Wait for Vega.

No, really, wait for Vega.

>> No.58408553

>>58408537
Yes

>> No.58408612

>>58408457
i7 6900K + GTX1080
Minumum FPS: 15.15ms or 66FPS
Average FPS: 12.97ms or 77.1FPS

Ryzen "6900K k1773r" (don't have a code name) + VEGA 687F:C1
Minimum FPS: 17.23ms or 58.03FPS
Average FPS: 13.86ms or 72.15FPS

Let's see.. we are looking at 6900K + 1080 VS. Ryzen 8C16T + VEGA 687F:C1.
Now let's tell me why you are talking shit:
1. 1070.. 1080.. what are you talking about? Make up your mind.
2. Initially you said Vega is DOA because it can't even match a 1070, after seeing how it performs vs. the 1080, we can safely assume it's going to beat the 1070 without problems.
3. VEGA 687F:C1 is the name of the GPU, you do not know if that's everything Vega will bring to the table.
Overall, Vega beats the 1070 since it competes with the 1080 since it's min FPS difference is like 8 FPS and the average difference is 5 FPS and that's why you are talking shit.

>> No.58408653

>>58408136
>can't even match 1070
>literally 0 benchmarks of any kind released

Kill yourself Nvidiashill.

>> No.58408659

>>58408612
>Vega beats the 1070 since it competes with the 1080
But it's supposed to compete with the Titan X, dumbass.

>> No.58408691

>>58408659
I might be wrong but they had on floorVega 10 and the one against titan is Vega 11

>> No.58408702

>>58408659
>But it's supposed to compete with the Titan X, dumbass.
That's why i said you do not know what Vega will bring to the table since not everything is released/leaked yet you illiterate retard.
And there's also Vega 11.

>> No.58408774

>>58408691
>>58408702
Vega 11 is the smaller Vega chip meant to either replace Polaris 10 or go one above it. Vega 10 is the largest AMD GPU. Idiots.

>> No.58408849

Posting my updated list. Any advice would be welcome.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vTFZqk

>> No.58408885

>>58408774
>talks shit about 1070 and Vega
>has no actual proof
>reddit post contradicts initial claim
>lol guise u dumbasses idiots xddd
>Team™ Nvidia™!!!!1111 xddd
Already told you twice it's stupid to theorize on how and what Vega will be able to do while AMD doesn't release more info, same applies to Zen.
Now, go back to your autistic children daycare, retard.
>>>/v/

>> No.58408888

If I have a 1070 should I stay at 1080p 144hz since I have >60fps in all games or is 1440p worth playing at 60fps

>> No.58408919

>>58408849
>335W avg
>360W PSU
Are you retarded?

>> No.58408932

>>58408919
How much wattage should my PSU have then? 400W?

>> No.58408998

>>58408932
Just get the SeaSonic G 550 or EVGA G2 550 like anyone else does, also get a 24" monitor, a used one is ok if you can't afford a new one.

>> No.58409081

Just jumping into this whole pc building nonsense for the first time. Got a price range firmly in mind, but the one question I have is this: In the interest of keeping to that price range ($1000-1500) what can I afford to skimp on that won't bite me in the ass? Case? Storage?

>> No.58409108

i56600k or 6500 with a RX 470 build?

>> No.58409158

>>58409081
1000-1500 is quite a big budget so you don't really have to skimp out on anything if you're just building a standard gaymen computer.

>> No.58409177

>>58409081
>what can I afford to skimp on that won't bite me in the ass?
Honestly? Nothing. Everything will bite you in some way in the ass if you skimp on it.
A cheaper case will probably have worse cable management, worse fans, cheap build quality, etc.
A cheap SSD is likely to be slower, a cheap HDD is likely to be slower, louder and might fail you somewhere down the road.
This applies to ALL components, but of course there are good value options that don't have worrying downsides, but they obviously won't perform as good as top tier components.
Anyways, you shouldn't worry about it since you have a generous budget of $1000-1500 which is enough for a good PC.

>>58409108
Both are fine, if it's for gaymen only get the 6500.

>> No.58409190

>>58404226
wow I have almost the same build, but I'm waiting for the new amd releases to see what to buy~

>> No.58409221

I have a question /g/uys. I have a corsair 900d, it's black, and I want to mod the color to the classic 90s beige. Anyone done this? What paint and primer did you use?

>> No.58409229
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I'm ripping out the innards of my Old PC and building a new one. I'm also re-using the HDD and I have an external HD which aren't listed here. Windows 7 I plan on throwing on a USB and uploading. I also have plenty of spare fans I'll be using to keep everything cool. The Monitors are ones I purchased when I made my first build and I plan on keeping them unless there's some reason I shouldn't.

Later half of the year I plan on either getting a second GTX 1080 or moving to a liquid cooling system. Let me know what you guys think.

>> No.58409246

>>58409158
Well, it is 1500 CAD, so...

I guess what I want most of all is to understand just what I'm paying for with things like the Case. Looking at the "excellent" build on LI, for example. What the hell am I paying for with the "Storm Trooper?" I feel it necessary to mention I have absolutely no desire to fill my PC with a bunch of LEDs, since I'm a light sleeper to the point that I have to cover my laptop while I sleep to get rid of the damn blinking lights.

Is the point a more expensive case just space for fans/wiring?

>> No.58409267

>>58409177
Not the anon you are replying to but don't you want the 6600k for OC if you are buying it for a gaymen PC?

>> No.58409293

>>58409267
Probably not paired with a 470 4G.

>> No.58409300
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>>58408849
PSUs have optimal efficiency at around 50% load and so you should get something like a 500-750w. It seems most 2tb HDDs are only marginally more expensive than 1tb ones, so maybe that's something you could look at.
Maybe also get a evga 1060, they are very lenient with their warranty.
That motherboard supports the 7600k and it overclocks higher than the 6600k, I don't see much of a reason not to buy it. Unless that 6600k is significantly cheaper.

You're over paying for that corsair mechanical keyboard.
If you could trim $100 off your total you could afford a 144hz monitor which you will love.

Here maybe something like pic related, $20 more bucks but you get 144hz monitor. You'll love it for games like overwatch, cs go, league, world of warcraft, rocket league, etc etc.
Next time you have a spare $40 grab another 8gb of ram for it

>> No.58409332

>>58409300
>recommending EVGA GPUs
I mean, maybe they usually have good ones, but after their fuck-up with 1070 and 1080 cards I sure as hell wouldn't touch anything coming from their GPU division.

>> No.58409353

>>58409293
The 470 scales really well when overclocked because it has less cores per rop than the rx 480 and so more bandwidth per core. an overclocked 6600k is a nice match for it. great value/pref buy.
>>58409332
it was a small percentage of 1070s and 1080s and the issue isn't present at all with their 1060s so

>> No.58409407

>>58409353
Imho a 6600K @4.5GHz will sit back relaxing when paired with a 470 4G, i wouldn't bother with it unless you plan on upgrading the GPU or keeping the CPU for long.

>> No.58409471

>>58409407
The other options are so shit though. I hate the locked i5s from the skylake line, they're all clocked so low that the 2500k beats them. I bought a i3 6100/1060 6gb last summer and ended up just picking up the 6600k and throwing it in my b150 mobo because the i3 was incapable of driving my 144hz monitor.
The locked kaby i5s seem like okish buys but their price is too close to the 6600k right now.
I do understand your point of view though. I don't even know how you were initially talking to, I just chimed in like a faggot.

>> No.58409487

>>58409300
>overpaying for a $60 keyboard
wat m8

>> No.58409529

>>58409471
>the i3 was incapable of driving my 144hz monitor
Seriously.. what did you expect?

>The locked kaby i5s seem like okish buys
6400 is.. meh, 6500 is good for budget/mid-range builds and if you don't want to OC.
Other than that you're right, the 6600K offer the best price/performance right now.
That's also why Kaby aka Kelvin Lake is such a huge failure with all it's issues and the 6600K and 6700K being so good.

>> No.58409597

>>58409487
I was going to suggest a $40 mechanical from amazon but then I noticed the corsair has dedicated function keys and thought he might not want the qisan because it doesn't. But something like this https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Water-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01DBJTZU2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1483995442&sr=8-4&keywords=mechanical+keyboard is half the price and knock off switches are fine. couldn't find it on pcpartpicker
>>58409529
The 6500 is 12% cheaper for ~15% less performance than a stock 6600k.
Depends on exact budget, future plans, etc.
I bought the 144hz monitor after the i3. I originally had a 2500k/144hz but ended up selling them. Figured the i3 6100 was roughly equal to my old 2500k since i ran it at stock.

>> No.58409697

>>58407884
>>58407754
fractals are alright, but a bit bland. Not to mention I'd rather the S over the r5. I'd say something like the Evolv ATX, S340/Elite or despite its flaws, maybe even a Pandora ATX with that board, or a krait, or if you want to get away from the "look how mature I am" aesthetic /g/ is so obsessed with an M7, maximus viii hero, or anything like that. your choice though

>> No.58409703

>>58409597
6500 is more cost effective for budget builds since you can save money on CPU, mobo and cooler, but otherwise 6600K aaaaall the way.

>> No.58409735

What are the general rules for applying thermal paste?
Like how much should I use? Is it bad to use too much?
How should you apply it too? There are so many methods of doing it online I don't know which one to use.

>> No.58409736

>>58409703
Yes my point was just that the 6600k is a decent buy even in a mobo that doesn't support OC because it's stock clocks make it ~15% faster than the 6500. I suppose you do have to buy a cooler too though

>> No.58409766

>>58409597
The keyboard you linked doesn't have dedicated fn keys either though.

>> No.58409776

>>58409735
I've always used the 'dot' method, just put a roughly pea-sized dollop of thermal paste on the heat spreader and let the heatsink do the work for you

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nHnK2R

also, current setup, waiting for vega to buy GPU. Plan is to water cool and i'll probably get an 850 P3 PSU around then too

>> No.58409783
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>>58409735
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyXLu1Ms-q4
>>58409766
pic related

>> No.58409790

>>58409407
I originally asked about the 6500 vs 6600k, since I'm a poorfag I figured it would be better to get the 6600k and have it last longer in a $600 build.

>> No.58409862

>>58409783
Those fn keys have shared functions with media player keys. Those aren't dedicated function keys.

>> No.58409868

>>58409783
So the cross method is the best?
I've read it needs to reach as far as all four corners to get the best results.

>> No.58409903

>>58409868
ehh, not really. It uses a lot of paste and you don't really need 100% coverage on the heatspreader. Line and (if you use a bit more than in the video) Dot give enough to ensure good contact with your heatsink/block

>> No.58409941

>>58409697
Fractal cases are overall excellent, they don't look like gaymer trash, are silent, fans are ok, R5 has a fan controller and good layout for storage and cable management.
Evolv is good, NZTX is meh and no idea about the Pandora. The MSI Krait is just objectively a shit board, not only because the (((gaming))) branding, but also because the shit VRM.
The Krait costs around $125 while the UD3 goes for $139, so usually about $15 difference, but it's worth the money. The UD3 is a smaller UD5 which received excellent reviews.

>>58409736
That's why, also no idea about you but here in EU the price difference is even worse because muh Jewish Union taxes.

>>58409790
6500 is ok, 6600K is imho wasted, but also ok depending on the price.
>$600 build
Post before buying it, if you fit a 6600K in there that's an extremely tight budget for the rest and i doubt it will be fine.

>> No.58409967

>>58409941
oh god, didn't know about the VRM, glad I didn't get one then

>> No.58410087
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i really dont know anything about pc parts or building one, sorry. but playing video games is probably the most enjoyable thing in my life

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rRRWJV
is this okay? im willing to spend this much

>> No.58410089

>>58409941
and about the Pandora, dmitry didn't like it, Wendell did, and I was kinda inspired by a build in it hence I got it. And I just feel like the Fractal goes too far in the other direction, which is why I'm biased toward the evolv and the S340

>>58409776
by the way

>> No.58410129

Anyone know a decent Mobo that will support two GPUs and an i5 2500? I have a GTX 560 to 448 and a gt 730 (and as stupid as this sounds) I use the GT 730 as a dedicated physx card. And it works quite well, on Borderlands 2 I get an fps boost of about 7-10. There's just limited space for things, and the SATA ports are underneath my GTX, so I have to use right angle cables, and can't use one of the ports.

>> No.58410147

is there budget case that doesnt have holes in top and the sides like every other shit?

>> No.58410224

>>58410087
Get a good network cable and a cheap gigabit router instead of that n wlan receiver

>> No.58410265

>>58409967
In case you want to know more:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7326/gigabyte-z170x-ud5-intel-z170-motherboard-review/index3.html
I know it's the UD5 and not the UD3 but the VRM is the same.

>>58410089
https://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/chassis/pandora
This one? Looks good but layout is hit imho, no exhaust other than top, only 2 intake front (probably fine though) but the most concerning part is how narrow the case is.
You'll probably have difficulties fitting any decent tower cooler in there which means AIO or top-blow.
Fractals don't have this issue, they can fit Trident Z RAM with it's huge heatspreaders and a NH-D15 which will have to have it's front fan moved up my 20mm.

>> No.58410266

>>58410129
honestly I'd just stick with your current setup, sell the 560 and 730 and get a 470 or a 1050 ti, better to have the most powerful single card you can get than a separate dedicated card like that

>> No.58410302

>>58410265
nah I meant the big Pandora

https://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/chassis/pandora-atx this one

>> No.58410384

How much ram should I have for my gaymen computer? currently have 8GB but was thinking of upgrading to 16GB. Is 16 even necessary?

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>>58410302
and the build i got inspired by, gonna keep it black and only have a single card, but I'm a fan of the 'lots of fittings' waterloop look

>> No.58410648
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I want to use a Fractal Design R5 case. That's all I know.

I have a $1000 - $1350 budget.

No, I don't NEED it, I just want something nice, fast, and reliable for work and play.

I checked out the logical increments thing and I like it but I feel like it's missing some info and my case I like wasn't on there.

Also outside of that budget I'm looking for some great 1440p monitors. Open to suggestions that are good for work and play

ty guys <3

>> No.58410651

Welp, Here's what I've got so far: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fhtWKZ

Not sure what exactly I'm going to need for Power Supply, since I'm green as grass when it comes to this, as well as what I'm looking for with HDD/SSD.

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>>58410087
I helped a friend build a pc just like this a while back. Everything looks good, but I would rather go for Ethernet than Wi-Fi if you want lower ping and faster speeds.

>> No.58410735

>>58410266
Well, it's not a GTX 730. At most, I'd get 50 bucks from it. And I got the GTX 560 for 50, I could probably sell for 100

>> No.58410752

>>58410651
If you're planning to game, get an SSD or if you want to go cheaper, get a Western Digital Black 1-2TB, as for power supply in case you want to add on to your build in the future, get a 650w for the extra head room, since you haven't chosen a monitor yet.

>> No.58410784

>>58410651
Well, the calculated wattage is 279W, so a 350W would be sufficient, or 400W if you want some extra headroom. If you're planning to upgrade in the future, 500W would allow for an unlocked CPU + a high-wattage GPU.

>> No.58410810

Is there any real difference between the different ram speeds (2133, 3000, 32000, ect...) or should I just get the one that fits my size best?

>> No.58410815

>>58410302
>>58410400
Huge as fuck but looks decent, only downsides are no noise canelling insulation and you have to lay down the case sideways to access the front intake filter.

>>58410648
Checkout the Define S and C if you don't use the ODD cage. By 1440p do you mean 60Hz or more? Makes a price difference.
I'd say save like 350-400 for the monitor and spend the rest on the mobo, you may have to cut some edges with that budget depending on what you want.

>> No.58410951

>>58410752
650 seems like a comfortable allowance, though it's starting to encroach onto my budget.

Is SSD worth the price/lower storage capacity? The Western Digital 1TB I'm looking at is all the storage I see myself needing in the forseeable future, I still have plenty of legroom even on my 500 GB laptop HDD after 3 years, though.

Is SSD really going to blow my socks off, to be worth paying over double for half the storage?

>> No.58410969

>>58408136
490 is confirmed as not vega, and confirmed to be just as "4K" as the 470 is "1440p"

>> No.58410982

Thinking about putting together a local file server for light/medium use between about 15-20 people and some database software (Sesame), would buying a server motherboard/cpu like a xeon be worth it at this level, or should I just shell out for a decent normal setup?

>> No.58411047

>>58410951
Believe it, it'll blow your socks all the way off your thighs

>> No.58411125

>>58411047
Alright then. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mqbkbj

Monitor and Keyboard are lesser concerns for now. I've got some hand-me-downs that will suffice until I've come to a decision on what I need. If I need external storage, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. For now, I'd like to square away my Case for as little as I can get away with. A guy I was talking to at work swears by Cooler Master, but I don't really have any frame of reference on that.

>> No.58411138
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How much better is 5ms response time than 6ms?
Thinking about cancelling my order of https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PC9HFO8
to get https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YWCYKQM/ .
thanks falcon for not updating your prices btw

>> No.58411172

>>58411125
Cases don't really matter, coolermaster is cheap and practical and assume it has good airflow

>> No.58411175

>>58411138
>How much better is 5ms response time than 6ms?
...exactly 1ms better.

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>>58411125
I have a coolermaster N200, it works but it's nothing special, everything I need and only a few things I don't
$25 after $25 mail in rebate that should get in in less than 2 months now

>> No.58411214

>>58411125
>6500
>Z170
>3000RAM
For what purpose?
You can also drop down to a 550W PSU, that's enough for even a 6600K OC + 1070.

>> No.58411216

>>58406016
this is what i just built.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sXnGd6

only problem is when i turn it on a bunch of numbers flash on the motherboard little number screen, hit reads 55 then it restarts over and over.

>.> i have the kabylake bios update on a flash drive but it wont go to it or display anything on the monitor.

>> No.58411249

>>58411216
what a boring computer
how far will your 7600k go? did you get a 5ghz chip

>> No.58411258

>>58411138
Completely unnoticeable
just look up reviews and get the one that has the most accurate panel

>> No.58411260

So I fucked up in installing my cpu and bent some pins, and it's not easily fixable. Do you guys think newegg will accept the RMA? Am I fucked? Also, is it fine if I don't return it with an electrostatic bag, I fucking threw it away...

>> No.58411262

>>58411214
would you believe I'm brand-spankin-new at this? By all means, I'm open to suggestions, especially if those suggestions reduce the cost.

>> No.58411266

>>58411175
That's one smart-ass response but I kind of deserve it for not saying, is the extra $40 or so worth it? I don't do that much gaming, but I do more than none at all.

>> No.58411289

>>58411262
Do you understand the concept of un/locked CPUs and different chipsets? If not, i suggest you do some research and come back again before you mindlessly waste your mone like this.

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58411299

i´m kinda new to all of this stuff, rate please?
i'm trying make a mid tier pc but i'm trying to not go over $700.
What should I change or remove? if i can go for more cheaper the better

>> No.58411310

>>58411262
If you don't want to overclock, like ever, you're 100% sure, then you can go down to a B150 or H170 board and normal 2133mhz ram
You can save $20 on the power supply by searching around, I think seasonic makes a 520 or 620 watt modular 80+ bronze for $60

>> No.58411338

>>58411299
It's shit desu.
>Z2
>$28 total
L O L
O
L

>> No.58411358

>>58411299
Get a i5 7400 and a h110 motherboard that supports kaby, unless you specifically chose that z170 board to BLCK overclock your i3 6100.

>> No.58411389

>>58402420
>>58403524
>>58406033
Thanks.

>> No.58411410

>>58403918
donate it to me nigger

>> No.58411419

>>58411310
A lot of my pricing vs. budget woes come from the fact that I'm in Canada, so I see $65 only for it to be more like $85

>> No.58411423

>>58411299
Wait for zen.

>> No.58411426

>>58411338
what do you recomend? i've been reading threads to understand everything for a few months now but I still struggle a bit.

>>58411358
i kinda want to toy with overclocking to understand it better but a higher base speed sounds more reliable

>> No.58411440

>>58411249
im generally not a fan of LEDs or Colors.

but im new to this so i dont know how to get it to boot properly. if i can figure out how to get it started and overclocked, ill see.

>> No.58411589

>>58411310
>>58411289
I'll do more research where suggested. In the meantime, I think I'm going to pull the trigger and order the GTX 1060, just so that I don't back out like I always do, unless anyone wants to dive in and shout "NO! Not that one!"

>> No.58411717

>>58411426
If you want to OC you'll need a better cooler, if you don't want to OC, why Z170?
Also, no SSD and expensive case for a budget build.
>I still struggle a bit
Then lurk more, it's not that hard.

>>58411589
>I think I'm going to pull the trigger and order the GTX 1060
Don't prices might drop when Vega and 1080Ti release and what will you do with a 1060 if you can't use it?

>> No.58411795

>>58411717
i'm still looking for a good option since the mobo is sorta like a placeholder until i can find a better one that meets most of my needs
>Then lurk more, it's not that hard.
will do.

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/kbX2zM
I intend to overclock as much as I can
This would be used for light/medium gaming.
If you have any advice on how to make this cheaper than I'm all ears

>> No.58411882

>>58410815
I mean at least 60hz. And what's wrong with the R5?

>> No.58411890

>>58411440
yeah I didn't mean LED wise I just meant nothing stuck out about it. Bog-standard build. Not a gamer?

>> No.58412101

>>58411882
>And what's wrong with the R5?
Nothing, the Define S and C are just cheaper and smaller options in case you don't use the ODD cage.

>> No.58412122

>>58411717
Good call, actually. I didn't know there was a new release inbound.

>> No.58412135

>>58411717
The 1060 price will not drop below MSRP
I'd bet a 1060 on that
Did you see the price of the 1080ti? I doubt even 1080s will see a price drop

>> No.58412271

>>58411138
There would be no difference. I play osu with an 8ms monitor at a relatively high level, and even compared to a 1ms response time, there is hardly a difference.

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>>58412135
Maybe, maybe not, Nvidia is probably too jewish for it.

>> No.58412310

>>58412271
>he fell for the sluggish IPS meme
By the way you have over a frame of pixel response time at 120hz, theoretically your monitor shouldnt even work at that framerate

>> No.58412627

>>58412310
In osu, an approach rate of 10 (highest without mods) is 450ms. That's under 2% of the duration of the circle appearing, and at that speed, it's fucking nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=osu+ar10

>> No.58413216

new thread:
>>58413207

>> No.58413597

>>58409941
Late reply but I got recommended this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GR6zpb
As a ~600 build with 6600k.

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