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/mkg/ - Mechanical Laptop Keyboards Edition

>Buyer's template:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Use the buyer's template
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Keyset wiki
keypuller.com

Previous Thread >>57984820

>> No.58006690
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58006690

Opinions on the Leopold FC750r? Might buy it with blue switches as my first keyboard

>> No.58006711

>>58006690
It's a solid board, coming with thick cherry profile PBT caps as stock is nice too.

>> No.58006735
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58006735

>>58006690
Its got good build quality, thicc 1.5mm PBT keycaps in Stepsculpture 2 profile (its lower then OEM and more similar to DCS/Cherry [see pic]) as well as nkro and a detachable cable

>> No.58007001
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>tfw alps

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>>58007001
soon

>> No.58007141

Does anyone know of a company that sells a "Super-Man" themed Super ("Windows") key?

I figured this would be more common, but I'm not finding one.

>> No.58007170
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I just ordered pic related. how did I do?

>> No.58007202

>>58007170
I'll never understand all that extra space at the top, it just looks odd to me.

>> No.58007213

>>58007202
80s design

>> No.58007220

>>58007170
its pretty I want to fuck it.

>> No.58007227
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58007227

got a dot-com era Sun Microsystems keyboard and monitor in the mail soon

>> No.58007231

>>58007141
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/abs-shine-through-emblem-keycaps?%20mode=guest_open

>> No.58007264
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>>58007202
In the olden days that where they put the controller. I think they kept it because its still the same keyboard case design from when the original g80 released in 1988

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58007284

Is that double switches on enter and shift?

>> No.58007326

>>58007284
That's what it looks like. Fuck me that's retarded. I just noticed the non standard stagger too.

>> No.58007343

>>58007326
This is the chinkiest chinkshit I've ever seen

>> No.58007344
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58007344

>>58007284
looks to be so, at least on the shift

>> No.58007505

https://geekwhack.org/index.php?topic=86364.0

>Group buy price will be 350 EUR plus postage.
>I will continue to make these on demand after the GB at a slight markup (undecided, likely around 500 EUR)

>slight markup
>150 euros

>this is what geekhackers actually believe

>> No.58007542

>>58007343

nah russian

>ivan is not time for make cherry mx switches for fix computer input device, rip keys off bayan for to start hacking of american elections

>> No.58007546
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>>58007505
what did you expect anon? Its called geekwhack for a reason

>> No.58007559

>>58007326
That nonstandard stagger should be the new standard. It makes you move your fingers less. There is no point in using uneven staggering anymore since mechanical typewriters are long gone and forgotten.

>> No.58007571

>>58007546

christ fuck 3d printing can't become mainstream sooner

>> No.58007598
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>>58007571
the actually use silicone molds, which you can set up yourself for like a couple thousand bucks

>> No.58007660

>>58007001
keyboard?

>> No.58007681

>>58007660
looks like a v80 with matias switches and keycaps from Tai hao and and some old apple keyboard

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?keyword=&brand=&switch=32&size=&led=&capmat=&capprint=&model=&availability=in_stock_pre&show_kb=off&show_kb=on&show_acc=off


https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1362

>> No.58007696

>>58007660
>>58007681
Actually I think he just bought
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1359

>> No.58007706

>>58007696
First anon was right, it was Tai-hao. Those are regular Matias switches, not quiet.

>> No.58007753

>>58007202
>>58007213
>>58007220
>>58007264

you guys recommend any styled keycaps for it?

>> No.58007807
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>>58007753
anything from GMK to match the same profile if you are only planing to replace a few keycaps. Otherwise anything that matches the case like Dolch would be fine

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>>58007001
What is that feel when?

>> No.58008058

>>58008042

What's your lighting setup here?

>> No.58008174
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58008174

I bought the Elven alphas and nothing else from the last Granite run. I've got these red mods but I'm bored with the look. Should I get black blank mods?

>> No.58008194

>>58008174
what keyboard is that?

>> No.58008196

>>58008042
Airsoft?

>> No.58008202

>>58008194
literally any generic 60% keyboard

>> No.58008211
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58008211

>>58008174

This is what Dolch mods look like with Elven

>>58008194

KBP V60

>> No.58008270
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58008270

>>58008058
Canon 580EX off the ceiling

>>58008196
Never, ew.

>> No.58008283
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58008283

>>58007706
how are the Matias standard clicky compared to mx blues?

>> No.58008302

>>58008283
Stiffer, heavier, deeper sounding, and a lot less scratchy. Better in every way imo. Keycap options are limited and even the AEK caps wiggle more than any cherry cap would.

>> No.58008323

>>58008270
why do sockfags and you have to shove your shitty tastes and personalities into people's throats every fucking thread?
Why couldn't you just only post your keyboard or nothing at all? not that hard.

>> No.58008339

>>58008270
Ew lever-actions with tube mags

>> No.58008352

>>58008302
ah thanks. i'm doing a spring swap on the mx blues I salvaged with sprit 72g springs pretty soon for a heavier feel, but I might just buy a board with the Matias switches instead.

>> No.58008375

>>58008302
Also, are Matias switches compatible with cherry plates/pcbs?

>> No.58008429

>>58008375
Not entirely. You can get plates that will fit either switch and PCBs with mounting holes for both, but a lot are designed for one or the other.

http://builder.swillkb.com/ shows the plate cutouts for cherry only, alps only or both

>> No.58008501

>>58007227

I love Sun but I don't care for their keyboards.

All the ones I've used were squishy, and the placement of the ESC key gets on my nerves.

>> No.58008510

>>58008501
>placement of the ESC key
Isn't that the standard position for TKL/fullsize boards?

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>>58008323
Ok fine here.

>> No.58008552

Is the Tomoko the best poorfag/babby's first keyboard? Has good reviews and the TKL one is dirt cheap although I'll probably go for full size one.

>> No.58008557
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58008557

>>58008510

Ah, so it is.

The previous generations (what I used) had the escape key were backtick/tilde are on a standard keyboard, and an unlabeled dead key where ESC usually is.

>> No.58008564

>>58008552
Yes. Also, the Magicforce 68. Outemu switches are underrated right now.

>> No.58008571

>>58008533
thank you.

>> No.58008648

>>58008533
Than--waaaait a minute

>> No.58008737
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58008737

Yo peeps, not a frequenter of this board, but I have a quick question.
I just found a deal for a G410 tenkeyless keyboard for like, $50. Seems like a decent deal, I think.

https://www.dealzon.com/deals/logitech-g410-gaming-keyboard

Though, I already have a razor lycosa (Got the thing for $30 at some target back in 2008), and it kinda seems like this thing is just fine.


Do you ~keyboard experts~ think it's worth "upgrading?"

>> No.58008808

>>58007807

thank you. I will check out GMK. I'm looking for a full set of "interesting and/or classy" keycaps

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>> No.58009028

>>58007807

http://keypuller.com/round-4-spherical-space-cadet/

are these keycaps compatible with that cherry G80 3000?

>> No.58009354

>>58009028
Yes

>> No.58009649

>>58007284
>>58007344
I'm having second thoughts because of the strange key layout...
But it's a rarity to see the correct mac function row, and for $80 (with BT) it doesn't seem like a bad beginner board.

I'm surprised they kept the alt key, might as well went full mac and made it option.

>> No.58009656

Anyone who owns a topre gone back to cherry mx?

>> No.58009833

>>58008270
>>58008042
>guns and keyboards
muh freedom

>> No.58009842

When will custom Topre PCBs and firmware exist?

>> No.58009845

>>58006639
Is this the new retro thread?

>> No.58009852

>>58009656
Paging tripfag

>> No.58009893

>>58009833
Autists.

>> No.58009916

>>58009656
I switch between topre, cherry mx and gateron multiple times a day

>> No.58009956

>>58009916
When will you get an alps board?

>> No.58009992

>>58009656
>Anyone who owns a topre gone back to cherry mx?
I tried and don't like them anymore

expecially the noise

>> No.58010093

>>58009845

Naw, it's just once you start using high quality keyboards you don't ever want to go back. Keyboard quality has gone way down since the '80s, so you see a lot of pictures of old keyboards.

I'm an avid Type M user (IBM keyboard from the 80s and 90s) and won't use any keyboard that doesn't have good feedback and travel. My girlfriend hated my keyboard until hers broke and I lent her my spare - I had to order another spare because she won't give it back.

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>>58009956
I had one.

Probably with my build after whatever I'll build next. I don't want to make another AEK themed byild, but they're the only nice alps keycaps around

>> No.58010368

>>58006639
Want a mechanical keyboard very similar to my Lenovo Enhanced Performance keyboard. Which would be the best one?

I don't need nor necessarily want any shitty gaymer gimmicks like backlights.

Want it to click clack too.

>> No.58010398

>>58010368
In what way do you want a keyboard similar?

Just the fullsize layout? Fullsize with dedicated media controls? Fullsize with additional programmable macro keys? Fullsize with both those things?

>> No.58010470

>>58010398
Fullsize with both those things if possible (and USB ports).

Also, what I really meant is the design.

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58010708

Need a cheap rubber dome for work (can't waste time choosing the perfect mechanical, even if it was cheap). Which brands offer the best office standard keyboards?

pic related, example of something I found new for 10€

>> No.58010715

>>58010708
oh, and it must be usb

>> No.58010738

Just got my Unicomp classic delivered last night. Definitely has a good feel to it for typing, no complaints so far. The cosmetic defect stuff has been way over exaggerated, it has one little blemish on the upper right corner that I couldn't even see without shining my flashlight directly at it.

>> No.58010751

>>58010738
Oh, I do wish they had used the original model M's font for the keys. I didn't really buy it for aesthetics though so it's not a big deal for me.

>> No.58010785

>>58010708
that's very good when brand new.

1 year in, already mushy

>> No.58010809

>>58010785
>already mushy

That's why I'm asking for the ones with best quality, although I wouldn't complain if I had to spend 10€ a year, seems like a good bargain considering that I'll be trying out mechanicals for the time being.

>> No.58010829

>>58010809
don't bother with mechs, they feel and sound like shit.

rubberdome is where it's at.

honestly if it's for work, a 200€ rubberdome keyboard (topre)
would only cost you 10€ a month,
hell 5€ a month in 2 years, and they last over 10 with the same perfect feeling.

>> No.58010830
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58010830

I'm getting a razer memeboard because stores here can't figure out to sell nice stuff that isn't GAMURXD. I don't know how to feel about this

>> No.58010833

>>58010830
>because stores here

you are on the internet buddy
the world is your "store"

>> No.58010845

>>58010738

I've got three of 'em.

They get abused, and I do have issues with them sometimes (my desktop keyboard has started repeating the letter 'n' for some reason), but any time I have a real problem with 'em I send one in and they fix it for $35. Comes back clean and working. The most common problem I've had was with the shift keys sticking. Sometimes cleaning them fixes it, sometimes it doesn't.

One thing: open it up and move the wire so that it's not pinching, and wrap some electrical tape a few inches along the area where it comes out of the keyboard. The cords for the USB versions suck (but you can order replacements for not too much, and they're easy to replace).

>> No.58010852

>>58010829
>topre

God fucking dammit. I swear to god, I was going to put "inb4 topre" on my post.

Too pricey. I will only buy topre after I try one for myself. It's a huge investment.

Also, if you seriously suggest hhkb, kys.

>> No.58010862

>>58010845
I'm using the PS2 version.

>> No.58010865
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58010865

why are ergo clears the god-tier switch for workplace environments? topkekpres don't even come close t b h

>> No.58010866

>>58010852
>Too pricey
>for work
>a device you use everyday and that in 2 years will have costed you 5€ a month

just order a realforce on amazon and if you do not like it, return it, get full refund

>> No.58010882

>>58010862

I've never used that. My PS/2 Type M was an actual IBM model, and it had a completely different (detachable) cord.

Wish I'd sent it in for repair rather than just tossing it... it was a great keyboard.

>> No.58010913

>>58010865
Either I'm getting too old to be here or you are pure stage 5 linguistic cancer. Either way what the fuck did you just type?

>> No.58010919

>>58010833
it's not since it's a christmas present and my mother demanded something she could buy locally.
There wasn't even anything with blue switches

>> No.58010926

>>58010913
>he can't mentally untangle my dense meme-ry.

>> No.58010931

>>58010913
he prefers ergo-clear to topre

>> No.58010945

>>58010931
That explains the underage memes in place of a legible sentence.

>> No.58010947

>>58010931
>he recommends R U B B E R D O M E S to anons in /mkg/

>> No.58010958

>>58010866
>just order a realforce on amazon and if you do not like it, return it, get full refund

Compelling argument, but I've gone through this on this general: I don't get free shipping, it would cost me about 30€ minimum for getting it and returning.

>> No.58011168

>>58010945
>underage memes

are you the guy complaining about vaporware and memes that was here yesterday? This is a retarded board with retarded memes, if you don't like it, you can leave, grandpa.

>> No.58011179

>>58011168
are you the same idiot who made the "meme"?

>> No.58011204

>>58011168
>My memes are mine!
Thanks for confirming the underage.

>> No.58011213

>>58011179
>made the "meme"

>>58011204
>memes are mine

Go ahead, put more words in my mouth.

>> No.58011220

>>58008945
gonna need the name of that top model

>> No.58011236

>>58011213
>This is a retarded board with retarded memes
Seems to me like you're trying to take ownership of these dank memes. Apparently old people aren't allowed to have them.

>> No.58011239

>>58011220
You gonna need 350$ and 6 months of wait

>> No.58011248

>>58011236
>call them retarded
>take ownership

I wasn't even the one who started spouting them. Here's your (you)

>> No.58011254

>>58011248
K, meme police.

>> No.58011265

>>58011239
i'm rich and have all the time in the world so idgaf

>> No.58011277
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>anon still mad he got found out for being underage

cherryfags, everyone

>> No.58011524

>>58011277
>2559x1439
what the FUCK

>> No.58011557

>>58011524
;-)

>> No.58011848

>>58009842
Soon.

https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/another-custom-split-hand-topre-board-need-your-input-t14769.html

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>>58011848
>Need your input

>> No.58012004
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>>58007559
Staggering should just be gotten rid of entirely.

>> No.58012048
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58012048

how many IBM is too many IBM?

>> No.58012072
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58012072

>>58012048
>that tiger skin one

>> No.58012090

>>58012004
>Staggering should just be gotten rid of entirely.

Every time someone shits on staggering I see no proof or argument for their claims

>> No.58012109
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58012109

what is it with hhkb users and good taste?

Just wow

>> No.58012115

How do you get custom lettering on keycaps without it looking shit? Would want to try to get some black model M keycaps and add white lettering to them, like the Model M13.

>> No.58012118

>>58012090
Move your fingers up and down between rows m8, without trying to land on a specific keycap. There's no point in moving left or right along with up/down to hit certain keys. The staggering is a holdover from typewriters. Just like the qwerty layout.

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58012125

>>58012115
>without it looking shit?

This is a retarded board with retarded memes, if you don't like it, you can leave, grandpa.

>> No.58012153

>>58012118
If you sit your hands on the keyboard at a 45º angle (the most natural and comfortable angle) staggering makes complete sense. Your fingers fall right into the diagonals.

>> No.58012161

>>58012125
>This is a retarded board with retarded memes, if you don't like it, you can leave, grandpa.

>breeding another meme

You'll doom us all.

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>> No.58012163

>>58012153
That's why split ortho boards exist.

>> No.58012170

>>58012163
That would make the most sense.

>> No.58012176

>>58012163
>post a ortho
>gets #REKT by basic anatomy

>j-just kidding I m-meant split ortho are good g-guys...

pathetic.

>> No.58012186

>>58012176
Not every pleb is going to go straight from a staggered board to something like an ergodox. Standards are hard to change, go figure.

>> No.58012189

>>58012186
>Standards are hard to change, go figure.

Have a kid and raise him with only ortho keyboards until he's 18. Then, give him a staggered one. Good luck.

>> No.58012293

full sized novatouch when reeeeeeeeee
i just want a full sized topre keyboard that i can easily change caps to T H I C C pbt caps

>> No.58012298

>>58012048
send me one for my 20th bday next week anon
thanks in advance

>> No.58012303

>>58012293
>what is memeforce rgb

>> No.58012308

>>58012293
>full sized novatouch when reeeeeeeeee
jokes on you the TKL novatouch has been discontinued already

>> No.58012313

>>58010919
so buy something else and buy the keyboard urself online

>> No.58012324

>>58012293
can you not buy novatouch stems separately?

>> No.58012340

>>58012324
so buy the stems and the caps hmmm id rather spend more for topre caps then
>>58012308
god fuckin damnit

>> No.58012361

>>58012340
>so buy the stems and the caps hmmm id rather spend more for topre caps then
i imagine they wouldn't be expenisve though but idk

>> No.58012366

>>58012340
if you have a topre board, aliexpress is selling mx stems for like 0.05 each (packs of 10)

>> No.58012367

>>58012308
I have a Novatouch I'm looking to sell actually. Got it for free, and have hardly used it before putting it back in the box.

>> No.58012377

>>58012367
flip it on r/mechmarket for like 180$

good goys will eat it up

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58012406

How is /mkg/ doing this cold Thursday morning?

Underage meme kids do not reply.

>> No.58012410

>>58008737
the switches on the g410 is something you either love or hate I'd suggest holding out for a deal on a cherry or cherry clone board

>> No.58012425

>>58012048
>the laptop isn't ibm

>> No.58012438

>>58012406
topre is shit t b h fampai :^)

>> No.58012444

>>58008737
Tomoko is cheaper right now on amazon

>> No.58012508

>>58012303
>250$ + whatever the fuck cherry caps cost
HMMMMMMMM insteresting

>> No.58012564

>>58012406
>backlit topre
>identity crisis between a gamur kiddo or a /g/entooman

>> No.58012605

why do kids """"trade"""" artisan keycaps?

I thought the whole point of spending 100$ on a stupid skull cap was to be a special unique snowflake faggot

what's the point if another pleb gets to type on your 100$ jello puddi?

>> No.58012636

>>58012406
>backlit
>calls other people kids

>> No.58012648

>>58012508
>>58012636
Why is backlighting bad? It lets me know what actuation setting I'm on also.

>> No.58012659

>>58012648
As long as it's not RGB meme

>> No.58012676

>>58012648
just shitty looking

>> No.58012682

>>58012648
it just looks bad is all

>> No.58012683

>>58012659
I just keep it white.

>> No.58012700

>>58012682
>>58012676
>>58012659
This is a retarded board with retarded memes, if you don't like it, you can leave, grandpa.

>> No.58012712

>>58012700
ur the minority though u leave
go to reddit they seem to like them

>> No.58012718

>>58012700
>forcing memes

>> No.58012726

>>58012648
Because it serves no purpose. Just have a tiny little row of LEDs above the numpad or on the side of the board if you need to know actuation settings. It's so fucking pointless and it looks super tacky
>>58012700
>Don't criticize anything, you'll hurt someones fefees!

>> No.58012744
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>>58012700
you asked senpai i was just sayian

>> No.58012748

>>58012726
>Because it serves no purpose.
I like them.

>> No.58012757

How are razers green switches?

>> No.58012767

>>58012748
And I think you have shit taste for liking them. But you're welcome to it, ofc.

>> No.58012779

>>58007598
Or you can buy one keycap and make the mold yourself

>> No.58012780

>>58012767
It's like you can't turn them off.

>> No.58012781

>>58012757
>How are razers green switches?
GOOD!

>> No.58012791
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>>58012757
You mean, Kailh switches?

>> No.58012795
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>>58012757
they're just rebranded chink sh-
I mean they've been rigorously tested by eSports athletes under the most demanding conditions, Razer Mechanical Switches are perfectly tuned to the specific needs of gamers. Featuring optimized actuation points and a durability that surpasses the competition, these impressive switches enable you to execute your commands faster than before, for even longer.

>> No.58012798

>>58012757
this better be bait

>> No.58012806

>>58012780
then why buy them in the first place. If you want cherry mounts you can but those for 5 cents a piece

>> No.58012816

>>58012806
Because I wanted a keyboard with them already instead of buying them from chinkland and hoping they work.

Also the software that comes with the Realforce interested me.

>> No.58012828

Not sure if I got in on the 1965 Gb or not. Didn't realize I had to replace order until right now OOPS :^)

>> No.58012835

>>58012798
But it's just a question?
>>58012791
but I heard they have other specifications than all kailh switches? and they have other contractors?

>> No.58012866

>>58012835
Would you buy something made by kids in China, if for the same exact price you can get something made in Japan, America, Germany, and Korea?

>> No.58012883

>>58012866
no? But I'd certainly still like to know about the stuff the chinese kids made if the product was part of my range of interests.
hence, it's just a question. I'm not asking "should I buy a razer keyboard?"

>> No.58012891

>>58012866
Well, some chink switches are better than Mx "Sandy" Cherry

>> No.58012910

>>58012883
Besides labor violations there is nothing wrong with chinese switches like outemu, kailh, greetech, etc. Some like Gateron are actually better then cherry switches. The thing with razer keyboards is that they charge a higher price just because of the snek logo on it

>> No.58012932

>>58012910
yes but how are the switches? I don't care about all this, I just wanna know how they feel, how they differentiate from other blues.

>> No.58012936

>>58012835
the only difference between razer and kailh switches is the razer oens supposedly have razer quality assurance professionals at the kailh factory to help assure quality

which considering how garbage razer's other shitty products are, means sweet fuck all

>> No.58012970

>>58012936
how can you say this when they have different actuation points and resistance?

>> No.58013024

>>58012932
The only Chinese switch I have is an outemu blue. Compared to the cherry equivalent mx blue its louder and even more higher pitched, as well as being heavier to press. One of the keys makes this annoying squeak when you press it down, but this is a result of the poor quality control, which Razer could have fixed in their switches, but I don't really know if they did. I've also read online that people are reporting inconsistencies between the switches.

>> No.58013082

>>58013024
again, it doesn't even have close to same specifications as other chinese switches, so I don't see how that's relevant. the outemu blue is closer to cherry in the hard specs than it is to the razer switch.

>> No.58013187

>>58013082
If you want to buy a razer keyboard then go ahead. Its your money and I can't stop you. Now this style of switch has been around since 1985 and has come in wide range of varieties with different springs and metal leafs. I can tell you that the leaf can barely be felt and that the spring makes the biggest difference in the feel of the switch.

>> No.58013214

>>58012004
Long spacebars should be gotten rid of entirely.

>> No.58013230

>>58013214
Different sized keys should be extinct by now, to be hornet

>> No.58013256

>>58013230
I think a 2u space bar would be acceptable, with the rest of the keys being 1u

>> No.58013275

>>58013230
>>58013256
Two 2u keys, one for space and one for shift/backspace/enter/whatever.

>> No.58013295

>>58013275
>>58013256
I was actually being sarcastic, I love my huge ass ISO enter key and my long, shiny spacebar

>> No.58013301

>>58013187
you're just trolling me now, right?

>> No.58013426

Anyone got the Realforce RGB keyboard?
I want to know how it is and is it worth the price?

Currently have the Type heaven.

>> No.58013475

>>58013301
You really can't feel the leaf.
The first mx style clicky switch was introduced in 1987, while the first mx switch was blacks in 1984. So I was wrong about the 1985 date.

>> No.58013485

>>58013301
He's trying to explain that even though "Razer" switches have some slight differences in comparison to other chink switches, nearly all of them are victims to poor quality control, inconsistency and being overpriced. Razer falls in line with all of these problems.

You seem to be adamant on buying expensive, "tuned for gaymin" chinese keyboard, though. It's your money in the end.

>> No.58013494

>>58013426
>Currently have the Type heaven.
I was gonna tell you it's shit but apparently you are used to it already

>> No.58013519

>>58013485
>>58013475
I've multiple times stated that I have no interest in buying any razer keyboard (or anything backlight for that matter, it's an absolute dealbreaker for me), I'm just curious about the feel of that specific switch, because it has different specs but are rather close to the blues, which are my faves

>> No.58013680

cheapest topre i can get with pbt caps and full profile?

>> No.58013689

>>58013680
>and full profile?
you mean 104 keys?

the typeheaven but it's more like typehell

>> No.58013701
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58013701

>>58011220
Same keyboard. Two different prototypes, gotta provide your own keycaps.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5iaxut/photos_m65a_aka_ramabae65_album

>> No.58013725

>>58013689
yeah but that doesnt have pbt caps
how would i go about changing them

>> No.58013735
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58013735

> https://rama.works/store/rama-ss-x-liquid-black-kc-mx

1 cap for 64$

R A M A (Ram my ass again) is quickly becoming the Apple of this community

>> No.58013756
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58013756

do you let your loli play with your keyboard?

>> No.58013757
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58013757

>>58013735
>R A M A (Ram my ass again)

>> No.58013758

>>58013735
>sold out
Of course it fucking is.

>> No.58013779
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58013779

>>58013735
>Liquid black
>Profile agnostic

>> No.58013780

>>58013758
Literally everything on their site is.

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>> No.58013891
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>>58013735
>https://rama.works/store/rama-torx-ring-01
>a cnc'd ring
>aluminium
>220$

>> No.58013930

oh, a unicomp on massdrop..
I wish I had money

>> No.58013941
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>> No.58013945

>>58007326
is it? would make modding easier

>> No.58013967
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>> No.58013985
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>>58013967
Soon™

>> No.58014009

>>58013967
Will this fit my artisans?

>> No.58014014

>>58013941
>>58013967
>>58013985

How does anyone type in these? Just rest your palm and force some key?

>> No.58014036
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58014036

>>58013985
why does this guy keep trying when the most ergonomic keyboard ever's already been done

>> No.58014056

>>58013756
'Sup, badwrench.

>> No.58014057
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58014057

>>58014036

>> No.58014069

>>58014036
not topre :-)

>> No.58014080

>>58014014
You could have just googled a typing video yourself m8.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn-q47jAYfg

>> No.58014088
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58014088

>>58014036
that's not a datahand

>> No.58014090

>>58013941
>>58013967
>>58013985
these are gross and trashy
Datahand is a much more elegant approach to ergonomics

>> No.58014092
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58014092

>>58013426
If you want RGB and MX Cherry compatible it's excellent. My end game keyboard so far trolling aside.

>> No.58014101
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58014101

>tfw you missed on the hhkb sticker groupbuy

T_T

>> No.58014105

>>58014090
Sure, brb shelling out $1400 for a fucking datahand.

>> No.58014113

>>58014080
>vertical mouse

of course he's a meme conoisseur

>> No.58014118

>>58014105
>the fastest typing system which also happens to be top tier economics and aesthetic as fuck isn't worth 1400$
get your priorities straight.

>> No.58014125

>>58014080
Looks interesting, wish I knew anyone with a 3d printer who could do up a case for me.

>> No.58014158

>>58014080
this looks extremely autistic

>> No.58014166

>>58014158
Welcome to 4chan.

>> No.58014321

>>58014088
I'm scared to start on the ergonomic keyboard meme just in case it leads me to spending two and a half grand on one of these on ebay

>> No.58014357

>>58014321
there was one on deskthority that sold for like a grand

>> No.58014511
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58014511

Yay or nay?

>> No.58014550

>>58014511
Folks were talking about it already.

See:
>>58007284
>>58007344

>> No.58014594

>>58014550
>Folks

There really are grandpas here.

>> No.58014691

whats the difference between SMK and SKCM blue alps

>> No.58014898
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>not liking yellowing

>> No.58014942
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58014942

>>58014898
>pvc case
What kind of pleb do you think I am?
Go big or go home

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>>58015167
for what purpose

>> No.58015228
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58015228

>>58015198
fvr what pvrpose

>> No.58015233

Where the fuck can I find the Blue and White ABS Tai Hao keycaps for less than $30 in the US?

>> No.58015247
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58015247

After seeing someone make a Unicomp SSK by themselves, I wonder why doesn't Unicomp just make their own?
If some guy can do it, why can't they?

>> No.58015263

>>58015233
massdrop or https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1445 whenever they restock once a year

>> No.58015933

>>58015247
Because you're a faggot.

>> No.58016023
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58016023

I just got this for $100. Did I do good?

>> No.58016085

>>58016023
Yes

>> No.58016086

>>58014898
It looks nice sometimes. My Mac Plus however, does not. Its lime green to my color blind eyes.

>> No.58016116

>>58015247
That looks photoshopped. Especially the insert/home/etc cluster. I would buy one though for sure if they were real.

>> No.58016209

>>58016116
I think the bigger question is does it really work?
https://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/unicomp-ssk-from-ultra-classic-anyone-t15238.html

>> No.58017138
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58017138

racecar numpad

for fast numbers

>> No.58017478

>>58017138
What's racecar about it? Looks like a letter tray.

>> No.58017734

Any good HHKB mod guides?

>> No.58017789
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58017789

>>58017734
what do you want to do

>> No.58017905
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58017905

>>58017789
Nothing specific, I just want some guides like this one.
I am most interested in lubing right now.
https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/hhkp-pro-jp-variable-force-silencing-mods-t5196.html

>> No.58018065

I ordered the "Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro L" with Mx Browns (used them for 4 years and I'm happy with them).

Anyone has any experience with it?

>> No.58018146
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58018146

Is this a good lube for an HHKB?

>> No.58018182

>>58017478
I dunno, those rounded holes remind me of racecars

>> No.58018196

>>58018146
dragon cum

>> No.58018204

>>58018146
wtf is mechlube

>> No.58018217

>>58018182
If you really wanted to make it look like a racecar add some spoilers

>> No.58018264
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58018264

>>58018217
The racecar aesthetic was more of a side-effect, but you're certainly not the first person to tell me that I should add spoilers

>> No.58018415

>>58018204
https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2

>> No.58018476

>>58018415
>https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube_2

Alright. Are you sure it's not a lot of marketing in there? Sounds extremely expensive.

I guess way cheaper lubricants will do an equally good job.

>> No.58018535

>>58018476
>Alright. Are you sure it's not a lot of marketing in there?
No, and that's why I want more recommendations.
But the price is not so bad if I'm only going to use it once or twice on a keyboard.
I'm also looking at this.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002L5UL92/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=Y6YDG2ONF2TS&coliid=I1GQ47KPB47QMF
Again, the price, but I don't think it's so bad if I only buy one.

>> No.58018552

>>58017734
>Any good HHKB mod guides?
Some people claim lubing the hhkb ruins the sound

>> No.58018584

>>58018552
This sounds great to me, but it could be that the lube wore off as it's Krytox.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vOzZ7cD6fQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8WuYUdB90
What most bothers me as a Type-S user is that some of the keys squeak. I don't know if lube would help with that, but if it reduces the overall noise I would like it.

>> No.58018614

>>58018584
My not type s does not squeak.

Iirc tho the type-s comes with some lubing already on, or maybe it's only the silent realforce (with purple stems)

>> No.58018637
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58018637

found this little memester for 10€. Owner says it's completely functional. Should I?

>> No.58018646

>>58016023
lol

>> No.58018746

>>58018637
what even is that spacebar LMAO

>> No.58018769
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58018769

>>58018637
I mean, why even bother when the superior product for equally superior price is available?

>> No.58018832

>>58018769
>for equally superior price

Damn, lower than 10€? Where is it?

>> No.58018863
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58018863

>>58018832
No, anon, "superior", as in greater, as in it costs more. That's the joke.

>> No.58018894

>>58018863
oh ok, kek

I saw that keyboard new for over 200 dollars though, wouldn't guess it was so expensive. My only uncertainty is the adapter for that kind of connector (5 pin)

>> No.58019011

>>58018894
it looks like a standard ps/2 connector

>> No.58019054
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58019054

>>58019011
that pic is from the internet. Here's the one for sale.

>> No.58019136

>>58019054
still looks like a ps/2 connector to me

>> No.58019482

>>58013680
bump

>> No.58019647

>>58019054
Just buy a "live USB" PS/2 adapter. I use one with that keyboard which I bought in 1999.

>> No.58020622

>spilled milk on my razer keyboard
>screen goes crazy after drying it
>clean it up
>still fucked up

it's gone isn't it? typing with mouse atm.

>> No.58020799
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58020799

I work at a school - found these bad boys in a storage room this week and they still work great

>> No.58021320

> Budget
Between $100 - $200 USD

> Location
USA

> Switch
Cherry blue/green

> Layout
ANSI

> Form factor
65 - 70? Not exactly sure, but I'd like to have dedicated arrow keys, home, end and page up/down allow with delete. Don't need anything else to have a dedicated key though.

> Previous board
Currently typing on a WASD Code 2 100% with clear switches. I really, really like this board but I want to get something that's more clicky as this isn't the most enjoyable for typing long papers on, something that I'll be spending most of my time in college doing. As I described in the layout there are some things I need to have dedicated keys for but the rest can be Fn. Something that comes in (or can be nicely converted to) a miami or gray themed keycap set would be really nice.

>> No.58021743

>>58020622
If you didn't let it dry for at least 48 hours after cleaning, yeah, it's unfortu--
>razer
You've escaped. Congratulations.

>> No.58021825

>>58021320
>Not exactly sure, but I'd like to have dedicated arrow keys, home, end and page up/down allow with delete.
>Something that comes in (or can be nicely converted to) a miami or gray themed keycap set would be really nice.
There are a few 68%ish layouts that have only and exactly what you want, if you're willing to build it yourself. But it'll be much easier to find greens on (and get custom keycaps for) a TKL board. Blues are ubiquitous, of course.

>> No.58021849
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58021849

What's a good lube for my HHKB?
Ripster recommended this over Mechlube 2.
>>58021320
>>58021825
Make sure to watch out for 5.5u spacebars, which you may have difficulties replacing.

>> No.58021889

What's the best way to clean a keyboard?

>> No.58021899

>>58021320
Magiforce 68 or
Leopold from mechanicalkeyboards.com

>> No.58021966

>>58021889
Get a keycap puller and use your hands to remove the gunk in it.
That should get most of the stuff from normal wear.
Of course you could do without one but it would be more difficult to remove the keycaps.

>> No.58021996

>>58021966
thanks. what do you use to clean the keys themselves? just something sharp to get random gunk off?

>> No.58022012

>>58021996
You could use IPA on the tougher gunk but dish soap, water, and a toothbrush should be enough.
If you have shiny ABS keys this won't do anything as there is permanent wear on the keys, making them reflect light uniformly.
I guess you could sandblast them.

>> No.58022039

>>58022012
it's alright, doesn't seem to be too bad. willing to bet an old toothbrush would be more than enough.
thx

>> No.58022757
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58022757

good night /mkg/

>> No.58022817

Just accidentally ate a few keycaps.
Will doubleshots hold their legends through digestion?

>> No.58022820

>>58022817
Are they double shot PBT?
ABS is less acid resistant I believe.

>> No.58022906

>>58022817
>>58022820
Might want to drink some bleach just to be sure.

>> No.58023033

>>58022906
Classic Anon

>> No.58024286

>Budget
About 120CAD(~90USD) in NCIX store credit
>Preferred switch type
No idea, something silent with low travel distance
>Layout
Any
>Form factor
Full size, with volume controls
>Backlight
Yes, prerably no rgb
>Previous/current keyboards
Shitty membrane keyboards, first time buying a mechanical keyboard. I was thinking about a g710+ or a g610, just want to know what other options I can have at this price range.

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>>58024286
G610 with browns because it has a standard bottom row, so you can replace the keycaps, and browns because reds are too light, they're linear, and "muh gamer switches"

>> No.58024764

>>58024582
The bottom row on the G610 isn't standard, nor is the stabilizer placement

>> No.58024872

>>58012816
>Buying a keyboard for the software
Oh i am laffin.

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R A M A

>> No.58025728

>>58025717
Wazzat top board? I like the bottom row.

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I was not prepared... for such an awesome gift, or for such incredible caps. Brohoho has always been one of my favorite coloways. I find it uniquely Brocaps. This is the first time I've handled the Rama stem too, very nice!
AND
'The Betrayer' is a marvel to behold. So much detail, so much expertise on display, and top notch craftsmanship and finishing. I have no idea how he achieved the variation in color on the horns, but they have a very realistic look. Another great feature is the stem is translucent and allows the eyes to be backlit very effectively. There are more details than I have words for! I love it! Thank you so much Bro, you live up to your name yet again. I can never thank you enough. <3

>> No.58025737

Why I can't find a decently priced keyboard with spherical keycaps?

>> No.58025744

>>58020799
Fucking lucky bastard. Congratulations.

>> No.58025746

>>58025737
Because XDA and Devlin drops aren't common yet so the only reasonable sources of spherical keycaps currently are SP and vintage boards.

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>mfw my keycaps have been shipped from Tokyo

>> No.58025951

>>58025763
>dumb akarin poster

>> No.58026154

>Budget
$50 AUD
>Location (continent at least)
AUS
>Preferred switch type
Quiet
>Layout
qwerty
>Form factor
standard with numpad
>Backlight
not needed
>Previous/current keyboards
M$ Wired 600 Rubberdome

Just need anything better than this MS basic keyboard that I got for $12 including the mouse. Hell, I'd even learn to put the whole thing together myself if I can do it for under $50. Is there anything cheap that is in the middle of rubber dome and mech? Or does a kb exist that is rubber dome but actually nice to type on?

>> No.58026168

>>58026154
Yea it's called a topre keyboard look it up

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>>58026154
>Or does a kb exist that is rubber dome but actually nice to type on?
yes

>> No.58026176

>>58026154
About the only mechanical you'd be getting for $50AU is compact chinkshit. If you're really deadset on fullsize, you'll be paying at least $100, maybe as much as $150.

>> No.58026261

>>58026176
Good to know. Thanks m8. I'll just wait then.

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NEW THREAD


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