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The best switch is not even a switch Edition

>Buyer's template:
>Where to Buy:
>Use the buyer's template
>Keyset wiki

Previous Thread >>57893531

>> No.57917633
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Why is ergo so rare?

>> No.57917654

Because plebs, and convention.

>> No.57917688

Kinessis is better

>> No.57917723
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>> No.57917862

outemu blues are pretty tactile, but i agree with the inconsistent and loud.

>> No.57917892

>tfw can't convince good friend to stop buying snake oil switches from the scammerman

>> No.57918012
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Because you can't improve on perfection.

>> No.57918029

>staggered qwerty
dude it was literally made to be the opposite of perfection.

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anybody try the new topre-like yet?

>> No.57918098


middle/eastern europe, whatever you call this place

>Switch type
Brown but blues are welcome too


>Form factor
100% - 80%


>Previous keyboards
plastic chink shit for 5$

Wanted to get Ozone Strike Pro but I can only find it with red switches so fuck that.

>> No.57918146
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Nah I'll stick with the real thing :-)

>> No.57918276

I have heard there is only one topre, and it feels amazing

>> No.57918370
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>QWERTY is bad
>staggered is bad
alright guy, let's see your devorak ortholinear fagboard

>> No.57918385

i literally posted a maltron with malt layout.
i use an ergodox with malt. i still need blank caps for it though.

>> No.57918388

Sent ;-)

>> No.57918431
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absolutely disgusting

>> No.57918435

Is even possible to assemble a custom keyboard if I buy individually all the materials?
How much would it cost?

The base will be a 100% form ISO qwerty with clear or black switches

>> No.57918488

has PCBs and cases

>> No.57918544

>paid 50 bucks for a complete printed hhkb keyset
>Mfw that esc/control combo costs 38€ on its own, 4 fucking keys and a bad key puller

This hobby is all retarded I swear

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it was actually cheaper to buy it from japan because they had free shipping

>> No.57918622

You also bought the jp set, right?
How much?

>> No.57918701

staggered is bad and a relic of typewriters with mechanical arms.
QWERTY wasn't designed to slow anyone down, but keyboard layout doesn't really matter unless it's a steno.

Speaking of which, why don't you fags use PLOVER?

>> No.57918723

>QWERTY wasn't designed to slow anyone down, but keyboard layout doesn't really matter unless it's a steno.
yes it was
yes, seiden can help you with that.

>> No.57918740

$56 from japan
but like $15 shipping

the guy i bought it from sent me black by mistake
Japanese city addresses are so fucked
i spent as much shipping both ways i don't think he bothered to charge for the white set

linear only makes sense on something like an ergodox
otherwise staggered is better on a normal rectangular keyboard

there is literally no proof that qwerty is slower than anything else

>> No.57918746

I see, thanks

>> No.57918768

>>otherwise staggered is better on a normal rectangular keyboard
>>there is literally no proof that qwerty is slower than anything else
how would you prove it? finger travel distance? native words in the homerow? people typing their whole life in qwerty vs people typing half their life in some other layout?

>> No.57918783


Because your finger spread better diagonally than straight up and down

>> No.57918813

think about how your wrists are in relation to the keyboard and you might figure out why i think you're retarded

>how would you prove it?
just fucking google it
there's been lots of thought put into it
the most that can be said about other layouts is a reduction in fatigue

>> No.57918822

except they move diagonally no matter how your layout is, unless you actually make the keys fit your finger travel. and ideally one barely moves his hands while typing.

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thoughts on layout?

>> No.57918861

why is END where the delete should be
what is the point of the ISO meta key

>> No.57918868
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>Trying to improve perfection

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>delete should be
i mean the backspace

>> No.57918903

No it wasn't.
No. Staggered is always worse and increases horizontal and vertical movement when typing. There is no need for it.

>> No.57918920

i actually read into the topic a lot and pretty much everything proved that qwerty is suboptimal in pretty much every regard. xahlee did a few good writeups

>> No.57918924


That's doesn't appear to be Topre like

If you want Topre like them Royal Kludge and Plum are the way to go

>> No.57918989

Lmfao that's the same retard who got so mad at the hhkb he had to write a fucking rant about it

What a loser

>> No.57919018

Can someone explain the scammer?

>> No.57919041

have you actually tried to type on a planck?
anyone who says it's in anyway comfortable is lying through their fucking teeth

oh this autist

remember i said layout changed nothing except fatigue
it's not worth it for most people including the hipsters that infect this hobby

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Can I join the shitposting?

>> No.57919078

have you actually tried to type on a HHKB?
anyone who says it's in anyway comfortable is lying through their fucking teeth

>> No.57919091
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>RGB lighting

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the thing about that is planck users are everything anyone thinks about hhkb users

most of the things on the HHKB under an FN layer aren't used much anyway
it's hardly an inconvenience for casual use

fuck me if i have to use it for CAD/CAM work

>> No.57919151

no function keys


>> No.57919154

>>the thing about that is planck users are everything anyone thinks about hhkb users
>yfw that's the same people

>> No.57919188
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Hey I like my rainbow puke

and what's wrong with M&Ps? need the ambi because I'm a dirty lefty

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the only time i need f keys at home is switching vehicle seats in BF1 :^

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are the bottom ones gateron?
thinking my next keyboard should be a bit smaller, i have very limited space at the moment to use this thing till then

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>dirty lefty
what a crippling disability

>> No.57919278
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Set up my numpad so I can get in some practice using only 10 keys for when the RAMA ends up arriving.

>> No.57919280
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I always fatfinger the mag release on righty guns if I grip them too tight

>> No.57919305
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>those ARs

>> No.57919306

>Implying you will live until then

You will die before receiving it

>> No.57919341

The only bothersome part about setting it up like this is having to make sure that the AHK quick toggle script works correctly in order to emulate the macro-ability of the RAMA M10-A

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surprised you didn't say shit about the pink rifle. one of the ARs is a 22, the other is my dads

>> No.57919384
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the fuck do i care about a child's 22 rifle

that AR is pure AIDS

>> No.57919422

Around 100
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
I just don't want them to be too loud
Doesn't matter
>Form factor
Doesn't matter

And I don't like any color except black/grey/white

Thank you

>> No.57919452

I like it, need to change out the barrel, gasblock, and barrel shroud though...

How's the SCAR treating you? Been needing to get something that fires a heavier round, the AR doesn't really cut it as a DMR as it is.

>> No.57919454

Staggering is garbage and needs to go away

>> No.57919514

adding qwerty and tripfagging to the list

>> No.57919537

>need to change out the barrel, gasblock, and barrel shroud though...
you mean handguard but that would fix it.

if you like spending $3000 then it's the best battle rifle you can buy right now.


>> No.57919598

yeah that's what I meant my bad.

if I fix those things I should be able to fire a 72gr no problem, not sure if I want to go to 18" or 20" for the barrel though.

holy fuck I didn't know scars were that expensive

>> No.57919710

>holy fuck I didn't know scars were that expensive
plus another $300 for the trigger and another 300 for the handguard

>and people in this thread cry about the price of an HHKB

>> No.57919761

I'm not sure if I fucked up or not, /g/, but I need to know where to go from here.

I just bought myself a PCB partially done (SMDs installed) and bought a switch plate that holds 80 keys.

Literally every other goddamn google-surface thing only supports the 76-key with the fat keys on the thumb cluster.

Is there firmware/.hexes out there that supports the 80 key layout, or a GUI that does so like the Ergodox EZ has? Does any Anon have such a thing by chance?

>> No.57919772

>>and people in this thread cry about the price of an HHKB
Shit man I hear you, /k/ and /o/ are my two most expensive hobbies, my /g/ and /v/ shit pale in comparison to them

>> No.57919997

ergoanon here, learn qmk right from the start. don't bother with anything else. i don't think adding two keys will be much of an issue. if you can't do without help just ask the guys from falbatech how to do it.

>> No.57920093

Which 60 keyboard can I buy for very little price?

>> No.57920151


>> No.57920789

can you at least label the brands/names of the switches, wtf

>> No.57920822

Can you not read?

>> No.57920902

If I buy gat browns and put heavier springs in them will it be close enough to Cherry clears?

>> No.57920908

not tiny embossed text on a black background in a shitty quality image...some of the brands are readable, some are not.

>> No.57920935

They're all readable except the Gaterons on the bottom row, get a better screen or glasses.

>> No.57920943

t. someone who has never used alps.

>> No.57921020
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Because keyboards, like all products under capitalism, are intentionally designed to be imperfect. You could easily create a keyboard that looks riced, has god tier mechanical switches, ergonomic, and has nice extra functions.
But Capitalism doesn't allow for perfect products to exist unless it's by accident. Think of that old logitech mouse for example, it was so good they had to take it off production and make its successors intentionally shittier, because otherwise noone would ever consider the new products.

Eventually you just cuck yourself into accepting this by pretending boring grey-white mechanical keyboards look "good" because "dude oldschool lmao" or whatever nonsense.

>> No.57921073

That's not a Sig P210.

>> No.57921218

What about mod switches?

>> No.57921295

>If I buy gat browns and put heavier springs in them will it be close enough to Cherry clears?
No the stem is also different

Clears has a bigger bump so it's more tactile

>> No.57921345
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more buttons in the same space

yes they are

the original pic which was posed yesterday wasnt labeled.

havent seen anyone use them online except redditors. i'm not convinced they aren't just another zealio level meme. i would order samples if they offered them, but i dont think they do anymore.

>> No.57921427

I'll be buying some for as build since they're cheaper than both Zealios and getting Cherry clears here, will let you know when they arrive.

>> No.57921428
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how do you guys like my mechanical keyboard?

>> No.57921430

Guys I need your help.

I spent $130 USD on a Corsair K70 Lux RGB. Within two days of owning it, the space-bar started squeaking like crazy. People online said to use something like lithium grease, and to not use WD40 or silicone based grease.

So I used a q-tip and applied it carefully. After a couple hours, I was gaming and realized that my character wasn't jumping when I hit the spacebar.

The spacebar has three switches. Left, middle, right. I applied the lithium grease to the left and the right.

The switches I applied grease to are bottomed out. They will not pop up. They are stuck in the down position. Only the middle switch has any feedback.

The space bar is effectively ruined.

Should I try and RMA it?

If I decide to call it a total loss, what keyboard do you recommend?

I spend a lot of time on the computer, mostly shitposting and gaming. I would like to get into programming though.

I've been looking at the Das Keyboard 4 Professional with brown switches. Blues are just too noisy.


>> No.57921550
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it's cute

>> No.57921572
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kinda lame

>> No.57921578

that's nice, I just prefer manuals..

>> No.57921599
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it's not mine anyway, it was just at the store a while ago

>> No.57921600


You folks really like your electric typewriters, at that point you might as well just use a computer.

A friend of mine has an electric keyboard, don't remember the brand/model but It used a removable ink, so you could correct mistakes.

I don't type on a typewriter for any of that.

>> No.57921625

The left and right ones are the stabalizers. The switch in the middle is the actual switch

>> No.57921628
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if i were to buy a meme-writer it wouldnt be electric

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oh you really want mechanical?

>> No.57921648


Well either way, the 'stabilizers' as you call them do indeed go up and down like a regular switch and they are stuck in the bottomed out position. The keyboard is effectively ruined.

Das Keyboard 4 Professional a good keyboard?

>> No.57921664

why isn't the spacebar working? does the middle switch still work when you remove the spacebar?

>> No.57921669
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Just get a Ducky One with PBT keycaps for $110

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>> No.57921683

how did you fuck up lubing stabilisers so badly jesus christ

>> No.57921691

they don't go up and down

>> No.57921704

sorry if this is asked a lot but i bought and have used one of these for months:

do they really have a hardware backdoor

>> No.57921717

Who cares about the stabilisers. Just clean them or get new ones since they cost like 30 cents each. They have no electronics inside them so just use alcohol to clean them.

>> No.57921744


>> No.57921760

but does it work

>> No.57921787
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QWERTY, was made to keep the keys from jamming; if too many of the things shot up on one side of the typewriter it would jam.
That's it.

>> No.57921794


Yeah the middle switch works fine still. I didn't lube it up.

The left and right stabilizers are stuck in the down position. So when I'm gaming, I can't just hit the spacebar with the thumb on my left and, nothing happens.

The space bar is pretty much ruined with those two stabilizers permanently bottomed out desu.

Literally don't know man. The squeak was driving me nuts. I think I just used way too much lithium grease. I had no idea it would cause the stabilizers to lose feedback / bottom out and not come back up. Shits fucked man. Just spent $130 (150 after tax) on this thing not even a week or two ago.

This is promising. I'm kind of scared to operate on it though. I think I might give corsair a call and see if they will fix it if I pay them.

Honestly I don't really care about calling it a total loss. I was a little disappointed by the k70

>> No.57921834

And how did they achieve that? By making commonly used together keys impossible hit right after each other and placing keys to slow to reach. meaning by slowing the typing down.

>> No.57921894

are they plate mounted? if they are, you can just desolder the space bar's switch and replace the stabilizers

>> No.57921970

Lol you want to pay corsair money to clean some lube. Just use 99% alcohol

>> No.57921992

not sure, that one isn't mine either

i doubt it tho, i think it was being sold in the 50-60 range

>> No.57921997

No, by mostly putting them on opposite sides of the board or in general in places where if they do hit they don't jam.
Do you honestly think that somehow It's the keyboards fault you suck at typing?

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I think the stabilizers are fucked though. I didn't think cleaning them would stop them from being bottomed out. I think they need to be replaced.

>> No.57922082

resize your shit nigger

>> No.57922162
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>> No.57922194

What caps? I thought they were enjoy pbt but the modifiers are different

>> No.57922259

Why do I get the feeling like this was made by someone who was born in the 90s? Dismal.

>> No.57922428



>Switch type
Topre, MX Green, MX Clear
Generally prefer more tactile switches. Browns are gross.

ANSI but open to ideas.

>Form factor


>Previous keyboards
I meme'd myself a while back and bought a K70 with Red Switches.

>> No.57922539

Trump please, why are you shitposting on 4chan instead of preparing for the presidency? Sad!

>> No.57922557

Couldn't have done it better myself

>> No.57922661


Just use the advanced search and get whatever you like
Some good brands: Ducky, Filco, Leopold, Cooler Master, Rosewill, Topre and KBP just to name a few

>> No.57922699


I use my HHKB in my office and I honestly prefer using the Fn keys over a traditional keyboard

>> No.57922755

Will do. Thanks.

>> No.57922787

Is there a keyboard like this (with home/end keys down the right side) that looks less gay?
Searching for a new mech.

>> No.57922800

Forgot to add that it should have function keys too because I'm not a pleb.

>> No.57922841

>shifting the argument to personal insults
did you learn arguing on /pol/ or what?

>> No.57922880


>> No.57922930

in which way? Because of the worse layout, the inferior customer service, the not as good keycaps or the lower warranty time?

>> No.57922935

butthurt much

>> No.57922938

How do I replace a stablizer on a k70

The ones next to the space bar

>> No.57923009

no u

>> No.57923080

Why not just contact corsair customer support, if you just bought it I'm sure it's still under warranty. If you can't Google things yourself I don't think you should be messing around with souldering.

>> No.57923128


I called them and told them I tried to grease it myself and they said they wouldn't warranty it.

I've been googling

>> No.57923159
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Where can I buy replacement stabilizers?

My shit is fucked.

>> No.57923175

>I fucked things up then told the warranty people I did
I didn't think you could get any dumber but wow

>> No.57923202

Jesus dude you don't tell them that, you're supposed to clean up any excess grease and tell them it just broke for no reason.

No wonder your Google fu is weak, you lack common sense.

>> No.57923276


I know, I know. I just figured it was better to tell them then, than clean it up as best I could, send it in, and they still find out I fucked it up.

Can you please look at this pic:


I'm about to just toss it in the garbage. I don't know where to buy replacement stabilizer bars, and even if I did I don't know how to replace it. I just took some pliers and pulled the old one out. Although they're both fucked.

>> No.57923277

what is it with people and their stabilizers today

>> No.57923330


Where do I get new ones?

The bar is intact still. Can I salvage it?

pleeeeasse dude

>> No.57923349

It's just one guy who keeps making things worse

At this rate I feel like he's gonna accidentally drop the board into a woodchipper

>> No.57923418


that guy here

this actually made me lol

>> No.57923463


Shhh let him believe. Save all the best rare switches for ourselves.

>> No.57923493
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What is the consensus on Das Keyboard 4 Professional?

It's $160 shipped right now.

Other recommendations on a good programming / light gaming keyboard?

>> No.57923518

Shit caps. Good board. No extras other than the media keys and big red knob.

>> No.57923614


Anything you would recommend over it besides Topre switches?

>> No.57923643

Is the HKKB worth 200?

>> No.57923684

Ducky, unless you really want those dedicated media keys

>> No.57923726

i thought you could be able to clean up the grease and get it working again but then you pulled it right out... i don't think it's salvagable anymore

>> No.57923762

>Das shit
Stay away from gaymen companies.
Just get a Realforce.

>> No.57923795

Reminds me of the guy selling a cd player or vcr on Craigslist that 'accidentally' fucked it up more and more to the point where I think he completely smashed it in the end

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Found it

This is you

>> No.57923842


whats wrong with das


>> No.57923871


I know, I fucked up man. It sucks knowing I just pissed $150 down the drain. I only make $14 bucks an hour. It's a big loss for me.

I was thinking about trashing it and getting a Das, but now some other anon said Das is shit, so I don't even know what to believe anymore.

I had to fish my old logitech g15 out of the garbage which I'm typing on right now, because my k70 is fucking toast now. At least I got a good laugh out of that picture.

>> No.57923999

-made in china
-costar stablizers
-retarded cases

Just overall a mediocre keyboard.

>> No.57924039


Ok, ok.

I looked at Realforce. They start at $200. That's a little out of my range. I could do a max of around $160. Is there anything better than Das in that price range? Thanks in advance.

>> No.57924061

Looked at any Ducky keyboards?

>> No.57924171

unethical child labor aside, are the OUTEMU switches worth? and if I don't like the switch, can I swap the springs with cherry springs?

poorfag here who's about to order this 60% board:


>> No.57924208

Ducky One has PBT keycaps and a steel plate for just 110 bucks with shipping and taxes

>> No.57924237

just spend the extra twentyish and get the superior gateron switches


>> No.57924266


Yes a little, they seem to get recommended here a lot.


I'll look into it. Thanks.

>> No.57924288

so do you own a board with outemu switches? how are the gaterons superior exactly?

>> No.57924324

I bought the e-element from massdrop like a year ago and compared to gaterons they were louder, heavier and more inconsistent. Also one of the switches broke and wouldn't reset properly.

>> No.57924362



First your tasteless AR in /arg/, now your tasteless mkb in /mkg/.

Whats next, are you going to buy a shit tier motorcycle and start endlessly reposting it in /dbt/ so you can finally finish chasing me all over the chan with your shitposting??

>> No.57924400

Ok guys, I just made the jump to a Ducky One.

What are considered the best key caps to upgrade too?

Are Tai-Hao's any good?

>> No.57924409

Since I don't have money for topre, I think I'm gonna go for brown gaterons next. They're tactile, right?

>> No.57924421

Where/how can i find Qwerty keyboards with weeb text like in OP?

>> No.57924447

>with weeb text
>he probably can't write in hiragana
>he probably can't even speak japanese

>> No.57924463

Originativeco dot com slash modern beige

>> No.57924554
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lol Tai hao would be a down grade. Any way you should read the pastebins linked in the OP for more info. I screenshoted the most important bit for you

>> No.57924568
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enjoypbt has some on aliexpress, red and blue legends
pic not related

>> No.57924575
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EnjoyPBT, SP, and I think XDA is still active

>> No.57924605
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>> No.57924628
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why not just buy a Japanese keyboard?

>> No.57924639
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would i be fucking up if i bought this?

>> No.57924661
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nope, but I love how they raised the prices since they are so popular and people will still buy them since they are great keyboards compared

>> No.57924673

to the other gaymer brands

don't know why it cut me off

>> No.57924682
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>buying cherry mx brown

>> No.57924685

>ISO enter
>1u backspace
It'd be great except for that

>> No.57924710
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there are other Japanese keyboard you know

>> No.57924722

I'll die before I fall for the Topre meme

>> No.57924723


What do you recommend instead? Blue's are too loud. Red's seem mostly for gaming.. I mostly program, little bit of gaming.

>> No.57924743

Why "upgrade"?
It's not like /k/ is any good anymore. Not since a few years ago.

>> No.57924754

even if you import a Filco from Japan, or buy Japanese keycaps, you'd still end up spending more then the cost of a topre keyboard

>> No.57924756


I'm with you anon. I can't stand Japanese key layouts for the same reason. I want a Panasonic Let's Note RZ6, but that keyboard is pure cancer.

>> No.57924779

But at least I wouldn't be typing on an overpriced rubber dome

>> No.57924801
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Post /dirty/ keyboard

>> No.57924817

So spending $100+ on keycaps isn't a meme, but a $100 rubberdome keyboard is

>> No.57924838

I don't write the meme rules, I just follow them.

>> No.57924854
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This post sure did power up my Walnuts®™.

>> No.57924855

It's cup rubber. Not shitty "rubbersome".

>> No.57924892

Cups are basically domes with a flat bottom honestly

>> No.57924895

don't EVER buy the cherry mx brown anon, mx browns = mx reds w/ dorito dust between slider walls
just get the blue version of the One they aren't even that loud relative to ibm BS.

>> No.57924974
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>all cups are domes
You'd be wrong.

>> No.57925001

But that's not a Topre cup now, is it?

>> No.57925025

Are you retarded or just asking a rhetorical question as an argument.

>> No.57925033

is this post a joke?

>> No.57925048

>this post again

Where can I get weeb caps for only 60%

>> No.57925053

Why not both?

>> No.57925055

You're doing it again.

>> No.57925094

Am I?

>> No.57925108
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you just missed out on XDA my friend. Maybe wait a year for it to drop again, or just spend 80 bucks and and buy enjoypbt keycaps

>> No.57925110

Yes, you are being a retard.

>> No.57925132

You shouldn't bully the mentally disabled, anon

>> No.57925144
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Honeywell drop is active. Yay or nay?

>> No.57925163

The fuck is wrong with you? Do you legitimately have autism or are you trolling?

>> No.57925227

Its harder to write that way anon, just use play ol' romaji

>> No.57925236

You seem really defensive about domes. If anyone is autistic then it's you.

>> No.57925278
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I don't own a topre keyboard if that what you're getting at. Its just that you posted something retarded then defended it autisticly. It seems that something triggered you

>> No.57925301

All I said was a cup wasn't a dome. You're the autist getting massively asshurt about it.

>> No.57925349
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I'm not the one that went on a rant calling people retards

>> No.57925355
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i have used this for 2 years
still triggers me

>> No.57925378

So you're just randomly poping in to call people triggered, retarded, and autistic? While also claiming your not autistic yourself?

>> No.57925425

Is Topre any good or just a meme. I'm finally replacing my generic Chinese membrane keyboard for something that doesn't break my fingers after two hours of programming. I am debating a custom (probably Gateron White), Realforce87 or HHKB.

>> No.57925443

Real Topre switches like from Realforce are the best keyboards you can buy. As long as you don't want very distinct tactile feedback like on cheery switches.

>> No.57925448
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no just you anon. Besides you were the one that joined into my conversion

>> No.57925454

Do you prefer Realforce over HHKB?

>> No.57925462
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I'm basic as fuck

>> No.57925499
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>that tramp stamp
Have you considered suicide

>> No.57925542

Never tried HHKB. I prefer fullsize keyboards. I see no reason why HHKB would be inferior if you want a TKL format.

>> No.57925573

yes. That's the thing I hate most about this keyboard. Corsair should issue an apology. I had planned on removing it, it's just a sticker, but then fags like you would say I was trying to pass it off as something it wasn't. There's no pleasing anyone, so I just decided to leave it and piss people off every time I post it. It's more rewarding that way.

>> No.57925583

It would be inferior because of its lack of dedicated arrow keys.
It makes some metroidvanias more difficult to play and less fun.

>> No.57925600

What's the deal with Cherry white switches?
From what I've read the modern whites sound like greens but with some weird shit going on that makes the click vary from switch to switch even though they feel the same
What's the point?

>> No.57925665

cherry whites came before blues

>> No.57925705

yes the vintage cherry whites were the og cherry clicky switch, but now we have blues and greens readily available so what purpose do the current production cherry whites serve

>> No.57925865

there is one slight problem and that is MX whites are no longer in production

>> No.57925895

Then where are KB Paradise and Ducky getting their Cherry-branded White switches from?

>> No.57925961
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good night /mkg/

>> No.57925984
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enjoy your nightmares, FAGGOT

>> No.57926137

anyone preordered the ultimate hacker keyboard?

thinking I wanna do it, but want someone to talk me into it.

>> No.57926303

Just get a HHKB instead for the memes and prestige. Did you know the creator of c++ uses a HHKB, and that Richard Stallman has been an HHKB user since 1997

>> No.57926327

I'd rather not be associated with a keyboard used by the king of the autists who eats shit from between his toes on stage.

>> No.57926353

eh already have a non-gimmicky keyboard I enjoy, want one i can break into two and still have it working.

>> No.57926384

Get money for topre, you won't regret it famalam

>This message brought to you by Realforce® I just typed this from my awesome new Realforce 87UBUSB Keyboard with Dip English Ascii 87 Layout Se170s™

>> No.57926440

was checking out winkeyless but want to do it on a budget, any tips? Or alternatives?

>> No.57926468
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>not using alps

>> No.57926518

so i have a keyboard in 65% form factor and a fullsive keyboard with black apls, is there a way for me to change the switches around so i can have a smaller mechanical keybaord?

>> No.57926597

I'm interested in keys with Arabic, Chinese, Hindi or Bengali subscript on them.
Does anyone know where I can buy these?

>> No.57926615

>another chryros video
>that teaser

Beam spring review incoming.

>> No.57926640

probably not, it's very doubtful that your 65% keyboard pcb supports alps, assuming it's using mx-style switches already

you can look into building your own keyboard or buying one with matias switches

>> No.57926653

XDA Milestone had at least one of those but it ended three days ago.

>> No.57926728

>he can't afford a proper 1911

Where the fuck is the the upper screw to its grip, anyway?

>> No.57926783

>expecting a BR gun to have all the parts

>> No.57927295

Buy an ErgoDox from falbatech or wait for the Infinity on Massdrop?

>> No.57927301
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It's only on the other side

And it's not about what I can afford, I actually did some research and really like the PT1911. I think Taurus did a really good job incorporating some nice features at a very reasonable price point. I did pick it up over 10 years ago now, and I can say, it's really impressed me in those 10 years.

I am getting tired of the size as a daily carry though, thinking about picking up a S&W TRR8 for myself for Christmas.I don't have a revolver yet, and have had my eye on the R8 for a long time.

>> No.57927320

It's cheaper off falbatech, so unless you really want the LCDs, do that.

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Wrong picture

>> No.57927328

falbatech, fuck massdrop and split keyboards that are recognized as two keyboards instead of one.

>> No.57927338
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>> No.57927446
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What's the downside of N-key rollover?

(I assume there must be something since they give you the option to disable it.)

>> No.57927473

Every keypress in NKRO mode drains a small amount of your life force, eventually leaving you an empty husk.

>> No.57927509

I got my new Ducky One today. Thanks for helping me pick it out.

>> No.57927524

Can you link me one with dedicated home and end buttons?

>> No.57927549

>they give you the option to disable it

That's only there for USB because it doesn't actually support NKRO.

The USB spec for keyboards only allows for at most 6KRO. In order to get NKRO over USB you have to break from spec in some way, which can cause the keyboard to not function properly in a low-level environment like DOS or your motherboard's BIOS setup.

Methods vary, such as installing as a composite device made up of 18 different 6-key keyboards. Or as a controller with 104 buttons that happen to map directly to keyboard inputs.

Meanwhile you will never have any issues if you're using a PS/2 keyboard connector because that protocol natively supports NKRO.

>> No.57927791

It's probably for mac or linux. Some of them don't support full nkro over USB.
USB can support full nkro without issue. Realforce keyboards have full NKRO over USB without issue.

>> No.57927980

>USB can support full nkro without issue.

Re-read the post. The USB HID spec for keyboard compatibility doesn't support any more than 6KRO, period. The only way around it is to break spec, which is exactly what an "NKRO" USB keyboard like a Realforce does. It doesn't mean a USB keyboard can't have NKRO. It just means it can't do it while following the spec.

A USB HID keypress report consists of an 8-byte array containing one modifier byte, one reserved byte and six keypress bytes (ie: a 7-byte packet). That's it. If you deviate from this format you're on your own for OS support.

A smart keyboard will stay in 6KRO mode until it receives a SetProtocol packet from the host, letting it know the host supports a wider range of protocols. Except some systems do stupid shit like send the SetProtocol packet but then operate in 6KRO mode anyway, or ignore anything past the first 8 bytes in an expanded protocol. Hence why disable switches are a thing.

>> No.57928029

Realforce don't have any switches. My point is they have full NKRO over USB without issue. It can be done. You saying you need PS/2 to not have any issues isn't correct.

>> No.57928050

What does having switches or not have to do with it when the standard USB HID packet sends 6 keypress signals as that guy said?

>> No.57928068

It's plug n play.

>> No.57928089

Actually you know what, I'm seeing a lot of people online saying Realforce doesn't have NKRO, so I'm gonna need you to prove your bullshit by pressing every alpha key one by one on this and showing a screenshot of them all green.

>> No.57928130

Boot into a DOS environment (eg: MS-DOS on a bootable USB stick) with a DOS keytester like interceptkeys and try to press more than 6 keys at once on your realforce. I guarantee you it will not work. Meanwhile if you use a ps/2 keyboard with nkro it will work.
Some BIOSes behave the same way, and if your keyboard doesn't disable nkro or have an at least partially compatible extended mode, then you can't even set up your machine.

>> No.57928184
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I can hold more down but that should be enough.
Not doing that now or probably ever.

>> No.57928263


Most Topre boards are 6KRO only, including the HHKB. Technically all capacitive boards are natively NKRO but Topre's controllers traditionally only sent the plain-jane 6KRO packets.

That changed around the time they started making the Novatouch for Coolermaster though, since CM actually gave a shit about the controller.

If you want NKRO on a Topre board make sure to check that it's a listed feature or sufficiently new production. I'd assume all RGB boards will have it since they made those specifically to shit on Coolermaster.

>> No.57928297

>Not doing that now or probably ever.

Yeah because NKRO over USB doesn't fucking work there.

>> No.57928310

Traditionally you're correct.

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It's a Razer isn't it.

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>> No.57928463


Called it. Only seen NKRO-capable Realforce controllers on those and one 104U so far.

>> No.57928570

No idea if all Realforce come with it. My RGB has it and I like it. Not a whole lot of use for it over 6knro but it's there.

>> No.57928676

I just bought Rosewill's Brown switch keyboard. How did i do?

>> No.57928682

Browns let you down

>> No.57928691


>> No.57928729


Don't listen to him.

They come with dirt preinstalled in the switches so you can get that gritty authentic shop floor computer feel without waiting six months for the board to fill up with grime.

It's a real time-saver.

>> No.57928905

No more than $40. I'd love if it could be less than that.
>Location (continent at least)
Bulgaria (south-eastern Europe)
>Preferred switch type
Blue or White
>Form factor
Doesn't matter
>Previous/current keyboards
Cheap non-mechanical ISO full size HP keyboard.

>> No.57928925

>No more than $40

Forget it.

Get a tomoko from amazon or ebay or your chinese vendor of choice for 30 bucks with free shipping and be glad that you got anything for less than 40 bucks in the first place.

>> No.57929042

>>No more than $40
>Forget it.

Not true
He could get a beautiful cherry g80 on German eBay, with mx blacks and fantastic caps

Not exactly what he asked for, but a great keyboard for 40 bucks and he can use the keys on other kbs in the future

>> No.57929079

>He could get a beautiful cherry g80 on German eBay
Thanks for the reminder, I somehow keep forgetting that vintage keyboards are a thing

>> No.57929098

That's way too ugly. I'll just type with my non-mechanical 5 euro keyboard.

>> No.57929191

If you like linears that is actually quite the solid choice. I got a few for the keycaps and i kept one to give to my mother.

>> No.57929237

Any reason to avoid corsair?

>> No.57929242

Do Gateron Blues suck?

>> No.57929248


>> No.57929264

enough reason for me, thanks

>> No.57929337

No, they are quite nice. But the difference to cherry blues is not as obvious as the difference between gateron brown and cherry brown imo.

>> No.57929432

Great, I already started regretting the Anne Pro because some people said Gaterons were inconsitent.

>> No.57930097

Assuming the products being sold is through a monopoly. The moment any competition develops, each firm must make yhe best quality product or risk losing market share.


>> No.57930103
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It's my first time buying a mech and I got the Ducky One.

Not even 8 hours has passed and this happened to me. Am I fucked in the ass? Goddamnit I don't want to drive hundreds of miles away to replace the product.

>> No.57930129

>Riced is good
>Gray/white is bad

Kill yourself kid

In fact, hang yourself with a led lights rope

>> No.57930195

Nevermind, I updated the firmware and it worked again. Fuck I was scared because all I've seen on the web are LED failure report. Hope mine will last long.

>> No.57930316

Is this mechanical?

>> No.57930342


MX-Lebensdauer Standardtaste

Seems so.

>> No.57930357


>> No.57930377

Like other contemporary Cherry keyboards, current G80-1800s have Windows keys, a USB interface and only laser-etched keycaps in light grey PBT or black POM.

Current G80-1800s have Cherry MX Black switches. Earlier models and special variations have several types of Cherry MX switches. For instance, the Cherry G80-1865 has Cherry MX Brown.

>> No.57930393

I can't find any info regarding simultaneous key presses. Anyone knows?
Does this differ a lot between specific models?

>> No.57930444
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They have 6kro if that is what you are asking. Also google: cherry article numbers for more info

>> No.57930549
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>> No.57930554

>They have 6kro if that is what you are asking

Source? I'm still googling right now, the G80-3000 can fail to register even 3 keys, but I can't find much on the G80-1800s.

>> No.57930593
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>Mx stems
>Matron curve


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pls respond

100 dollars tops.

>Location (continent at least)
South America

>Preferred switch type
Tactile, preferrably silent.

Preferrably ISO.

>Form factor
60 to 100%


>Previous/current keyboards
Previous: Microsoft wireless keyboard 800
Current: logitech keyboard k120 (sucks hard and has ghosting issues)

>> No.57930864
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Found an old Cherry keyboard model MY 3000L. I'd like to restore it and use it instead of buying a new board. Is to possible to replace these switches with something new?

>> No.57930909

time and time again there have been companies that try and make quality products and just go bankrupt for not going full happy merchant or not having enough brand recognition, cheapness always prevails under capitalism because there are more stupid people than smart people

>> No.57930930
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>100 dollars tops.
>>Location (continent at least)
>South America

>> No.57930976

Anyone living in Buffalo, NY? Found this for a great price: http://buffalo.craigslist.org/sop/5905230644.html

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>> No.57931118

want a low-mid price keyboard for osu! any advice ?

>> No.57931163

It can't come soon enough.


>> No.57931174

price skyrocketed to 700€ already

so this is the power of the endgame...

>> No.57931180

That's the price of getting a one-off prototype m8.

>> No.57931195

bamboo ctl-470

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>> No.57931360

This thread's been full of incredibly idiotic people so far. Okay, that's all. Go on, have fun now...

>> No.57931394

Thanks for the opinion, link to your blog?

>> No.57931417
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successful GMK GB, german ISO. Dolch with 3 different ESC, Enter & Space sets.

can't wait!

>> No.57931424
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>link to your blog?

>> No.57931430


>> No.57931442

It's a step in the right direction, but staggered layout a shit.

>> No.57931454
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I bet you're the same faggot who kept saying topre is linear

>> No.57931462

No, topres are obviously not linear.

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>> No.57931535

What range of orders is yours? Still waiting on mine (#73**). Then again I did order 110 each of MOD-M & MOD-H.

>> No.57931580

what are you soldering them to?

>> No.57931620

Ordered 67g & 78g feelios, and aristotles as well. Whichever combination I like best is going in a fully aluminum ergodox.

>> No.57931636
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fucking radical man

>> No.57931698

>>57930554 here
looks like they're 2-3kro

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>> No.57931969

This is even more of a scam than the purple shit. You wasted your money.

>> No.57932093

keyboard lel

>> No.57932301

It shouldnt really matter all that much since modifiers dont count towards the limit. Also some 6 key combinations can be recognized despite having 3kro.

>> No.57932466

New thread guys get in here

>> No.57932481


>> No.57932483

Fuck lol

>> No.57932974

second one are cherry doubleshots

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