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ZEALIOS edition

>Buyer's template:
>Where to Buy:
>Use the buyer's template
>Keyset wiki

previous thread: >>57704337

>> No.57722156

gj starting the thread off with a meme switch

>> No.57722166
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>mfw waiting for my new keyboard in the mail

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Lolita spyder owner here.

There's one fault about this keyboard and I'm not sure if it's just mine or it's a matter of build quality.

The shift keys and space bar have a switch on the middle and a couple of stabilizers(?) on the sides which fit into the cherry-like cross inserts.

My left shift, however, if pressed on the left, tilts and makes the press harder than it should be. It all seems to fit perfectly, but it still tilts, as if the stabilizers are not synched.
Has anyone ever had a problem like this?

inb4 "cheap chink shit", I know about that. Just trying to come up with a solution.

>> No.57722186

are you the guy with the glossy v60s

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Do I get it?
Do I even want memechanical switches?

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Friendly reminder that if you aren't typing on ZEALIOS you are not living your life correctly

>> No.57722207

fucking pedophile
also just lube up your cheap chink shit

>> No.57722208

dew it

>> No.57722219
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Maybe I'll have better luck cnc'ing this stuff

>> No.57722222

its $50 just go for it

>> No.57722250
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What's the closest keyboard to a whitefox that I can buy RIGHT NOW?

MUST accept gateron switches though,
none of that cherry crap for me thanks

>> No.57722261

Hey guys should I spend $200 on a Corsair RGB keyboard with brown switches?

>> No.57722280

RS68 on originativeco

>> No.57722287

if rgb is worth so much to you, get a coolermaster or ducky

>> No.57722300

Those don't have gamer cred though

>> No.57722376

Do I have to solder?

>> No.57722435


>Location (continent at least)
United States

>Preferred switch type


>Form factor

Yes, if possible.

>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech G15

>> No.57722456


>not a clicky switch

Into the trash it goes.

>> No.57722466

Browns vs Clears? for typing and gaming

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>> No.57722491

>memes on memes

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>> No.57722500

browns are shit switches hence the color

>> No.57722541

why are cherry switches so shit

>> No.57722564

Check the page for them.

>> No.57722567

Hey senpai how much was your tada68?

Did you go with 3tg gateron?
Did you have to assemble/solder it yourself?

>> No.57722591

about 120 bucks with shipping

Yeah, 35g gateron clears

Nope, came pre-assembled and everything, though I wouldn't have minded it being a bit cheaper and assembling it myself instead.

>> No.57722615

what's your opinion on gateron clears?

>> No.57722644

Fuck now I regret not hearing about it in time

Would have been fun

>> No.57722665

their like cherry clears

>> No.57722691

No they're 35g.

Cherry clears are like 50g iirc

>> No.57722711
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Easily my favorite switch so far.

Next up would be Topre, mx clears and gateron black. And I've still got some other switches to try. But gateron clears, especially in combination with the TADA68, providing a very nice sound in combination with the very solid plate and case, and the thicc pbt keycaps.

That being said, I've still got some other switches to try out and also use other keyboards with different switches depending on what I'm doing. But the TADA68 has been getting the most use of all by a long stretch.

>> No.57722725

like cherry clears thats 15g lighter

>> No.57722729

any budget keyboards with gateron clears you can recommend?

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Worth buying?

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I honestly don't know of any.

The TADA68 is already almost budget to me, especially when you consider the features it comes with.

You could get some cheap-ass chinkboard and replace the switches with gateron clears.

>> No.57722824

MagicForce 68

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No. I took one apart some time ago. The build quality is decent, but it feels like mushy crap. The only nice thing about it is the aesthetics.
It's a shame apple can't even into good design anymore.

>> No.57722863


The only gateron to avoid is greens.

>> No.57722866

what keyboard is that friendo

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Take a look at the discussion and make an educated guess.

>> No.57722897

what about browns? I'd like to a have some tactile feedback.

>> No.57722912

>That terrible tab mod

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I got a good deal on one of these
What am I in for

>> No.57723005

even if you don't like it you can sell it for a good amount

>> No.57723021


they're out of production

good deal my ass

they realized they could make more money so they did their own https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2114

>> No.57723031


>want tactile feedback

Then avoid browns.

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Browns suck ass, they're barely tactile. If I had to describe browns, I'd say that they feel like reds with dirt stuck in the middle.

My first keyboard was with browns. They're nice enough switches, but they suck ass compared to any other switch.

>> No.57723056

thx for saving money.

>> No.57723084

what would you recommend then if I want some tactile feedback without the click clacks?

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No wait. That's the steelseries POS I had prior to getting my first mech.

here we go

My pleasure.

Get an old AEK II if you want a nice keyboard, though you'll have to either make your own or shell out for an adapter. But at least they're solid keyboards.

>> No.57723104


>> No.57723125
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cherry clears, also one of my favorite switches.

>> No.57723164
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Any good options (China, probably) for some mechanical keyboards around $30? I'd like to pick some up for friends for Christmas.

Tenkeyless preferred since that's what I can get for the money. Full would be great but that's gonna add cost.

>> No.57723199


>GTR - Clear - 35g Linear

How can it have a tactile bump if it's linear?

>> No.57723220

There's a Das 4 Pro for sale for $80 on my local craigslist. Is it worth picking up? It'd be my first mechanical and I really want this one for the numpad and media keys/volume knob, only catch is that it's the Mac version.

>> No.57723223

wtc nerv keys

>> No.57723224

Cherry clear =/= Gateron clear

>> No.57723230
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Cherry clears, not gateron clears.

>> No.57723231

Hows the quality on this keyboard?

>> No.57723264

ffffffuck where do you get that keycap

>> No.57723279


>> No.57723283

My bad. So, what would be my option with cherry? (or kailh for that matter)

>> No.57723285

link, familia?

>> No.57723287

some chink website

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ebay, aliexpress, just about anywhere


Probably the same as the pok3r: Decent.

Metal case and pbt caps, unfortunately spray painted and laser etched, so not really desirable. Going out on a limb, I'd assume that it's not fully programmable either.

Cherry clears.
Or cherry browns, but like I said, those suck ass.

Though you probably won't find a budget board with cherry clears.

>> No.57723312

>ebay, aliexpress, just about anywhere

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It's the escape key, sure it gets used fairly often, but you're hardly going to use it enough for it to develop shine anytime soon.

You could also get one of these fuckers. I feel like I should pick up the angel for my HHKB, but then again, I'll be doing some extensive modding on that anyway, so I'm not sure about getting keycaps for it yet.

>> No.57723377

What are good keycaps for topre switches? I got a barebones version.

I still paid out the ass for it, just $140 instead of $300

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aaaaand, the link

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Novatouch uses mx caps

There's a zinc Nerv cap around

>> No.57723418


Wow, now that's what I'm talking about. Thank you!

>> No.57723437

I know it uses mx keycaps but what are best for Topres

abs, pbt, ultra thicc doubleshot?

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Post some pictures once you got it.

>> No.57723460

one of the sources for this kind of confusion is that gateron once made a tactile clear switch that was similar to the zealios in the parent post

however, most of the time people refer to the 35g linear switch when they talk about gateron clears

>> No.57723462

Topre doesn't have much choice in caps

Also prepare to lube your novatouch, I had one for a week and it rattled like a mofo
Also the case gets greasy easily

Still better than cherry though

>> No.57723480

>chocolate on keyboard
fucking disgusting

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>> No.57723513

it probably doesn't matter too much, as long as it's not shitty thin abs. just find something that you like

>> No.57723516

If reds are shit, how can gat clears be good?

>> No.57723529

Jesus. as if being a trip fag who uploads uncompressed images didn't make you an annoying cunt already. please kill yourself.

>> No.57723540

you get cap choice if you get a cherry stem

>> No.57723548

>lubing a keyboard

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>If reds are shit
they aren't, though gateron reds are still preferable to cherry reds.


>> No.57723563

>>lubing a keyboard


>> No.57723572

not even that anon. muted and reported

>> No.57723578

So gat clears are lighter gat reds?

>> No.57723584

You always lube before you stick it in

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welcome to a world of memes

yes, 10g lighter to be exact.


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>> No.57723614

Pictured: The Happy Hacking Keyboard owner cannot acquire a real girl and must settle for a cold, unfeeling mannequin.

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>cannot acquire a real girl
but anon I'm a fag

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>> No.57723654

details on the board?

>> No.57723661

Prove it, post your dick.

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Alright, but I'll need your help with that ;^}

>> No.57723776

anyone ever try greetech browns? i hear they are fantastic, even better than gateron browns

>> No.57723857

das keyboards use greetech
honestly cherry clones should be pretty much the same as cherry switches

>> No.57723911

There is a second style

>> No.57723912

what makes you say that? its a different spring (greetech is heavier) and supposedly the bump on the slider is both bigger and smoother

>> No.57723999

definitely isn't true.

i have the mk84 from mechanicalkeyboards with greetech brown switches, and they are noticeably scratchier/squeakier than any other brown switches i've used (i've tried a few cherry browns and kailh browns).

i actually have never noticed any scratchiness in cherry switches (i guess i'm less sensitive than other people), but the greetechs are absolutely awful. i can hear random scraping/squeaking when just typing normally. it isn't restricted to a few problem keys either as i can just hit any key a few times and it will eventually squeak at some point.

>> No.57724042


>> No.57724144

They're linear, and very light. While cherry clears are tactile and heavy. Cherry clears actuation is around 55g & bottom out is around 100g.

>> No.57724269

did you 3D print that? You know Clack Factory uses silicone molds for their cheap artisan keycaps

>> No.57724295

how did the Novatouch feel anon?
Some people tell me theyre more like Cherry reds than actual Topres

>> No.57724297

use the coupon code Kaihua25 to get 45% off on any of these keyboards:

>> No.57724312

hmm the squeaking in that video is definitely pretty noticeably. i haven't heard squeaking like that in any of the boards with cherry switches that i have tried/owned.

not really relevant, but i have purchased and returned two different kbp boards in the past (v80 with clears, v60 with matias quiet click) for chattering issues so i'm somewhat biased against kbp boards in general.

that said, i was mostly responding to the "clones should be pretty much the same as cherry switches" statement, as in my experience the cheaper clones are definitely worse.

is there a cherry mx clear clone i could try for comparison? i've only tried clones for reds, browns, and blacks.

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Yeah, I'll have to experiment some more, but getting tolerances down with the stem seems like it'll be a pain.

I'll probably just end up using molds too, though the 3D printer could come in handy for making the front part of the molds when first casting them.

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Please make 3d model of cosmonaut next.


>> No.57724370

>is there a cherry mx clear clone i could try for comparison?
There are zealios, and the originative MOD switches. Although, the latter don't seem to be up for sale right now.

>> No.57724380

Tomoko on amazon is $33

>> No.57724383
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Is it possible to increase the acutation force of a switch?

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another day without the Viper V2 gb is another shitty day

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Either give me the .stl files for that, or link me some good tutorials on 3D modeling. I know my way around basic shit in autocad, but I have no experience with 3D modeling shit like that.

>> No.57724409

stronger springs

>> No.57724420


It is from a mold, no files exist for it.

Super limited runs too.

>> No.57724423

change the springs or buy a different switch

>> No.57724441

Thank you. Think that replacement Cherry keycaps will work on it? Since they're knockoff cherrys

>> No.57724482

yes they will work

>> No.57724498

just bay a heavier spring:

and replace it:

>> No.57724508
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Yeah, I gussed that much.

Gib tutorials. I'll make you once I'm not a basic ass noob at 3D modeling.

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If you can give me some dimensions I might be able to come up with something

>> No.57724550

most keyboards cant have the tops removed without desoldering

>> No.57724632
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Guys i need your help, this piece of my keyboard broke in an accident do you know how it's called and where i might find a replacement? If it's not clear with the image it's the piece that conects the keyboard pcb to the mini usb

>> No.57724656

Just solder whatever cables you ripped back on

>> No.57724692

the piece is fucked, the solder wont stick to the circuit cuz it got ripped off along with the cable

>> No.57724715

What else is on that PCB? Don't quote me on this, but it looks like you could just connect the usb port directly to the keyboard pcb

>> No.57724724

guess youre buying a new keyboard, be more gentle with your possessions next time

>> No.57724735

yes just swap out the spring

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Sorry for the shitty camera this is what it has on it

>> No.57724840

Sorry for making a mistake Mr perfect. Worst case i get a diy kit and put these switches and keycaps on it

>> No.57724848

buy a new keyboard ;^)

>> No.57724977

What machine is that?

>> No.57724994

Find out which component there connects to those fucked solder pads and see if you can run a wire drom the component to the keyboard pcb.

If that doesn't work, do as you said and get a DIY kit. Good luck mate

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A CNC kit from aliexpress that I built some time ago

>> No.57725068

Anyone like doubleshot abs

>> No.57725096

people around these parts like GMK

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>> No.57725181

that fucking caps lock

>> No.57725195

How much was it?

>> No.57725223

about 3,50

>> No.57725246

Smh desu senpai cuck

>> No.57725252

220 bucks or so

Hit me up in the next thread and I'll find you the link if you're interested

>> No.57725303
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Anyone know how the custom esc/super keys were done here and how I can order some/make my own?

>> No.57725329

get a keycap, dye it, then use a laser to remove the dye.

>> No.57725353

any example of a cheap-ish laser that can do something like that?

>> No.57725370
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What am I in for?

>> No.57725382

just buy like a $2 laser pointer from some dodgy chinese guy in an alley lmao

>> No.57725393

thinking about getting the Steelseries mechanical keyboard


>> No.57725397
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What do you guys do with your old keyboards?

>> No.57725420

why did you buy 2 boards also brown is shit

>> No.57725437

they go into the trash where they belong just like you

>> No.57725447

So that I can try both of them out and see which one I like better.

>brown is shit
I'll probably like it.

>> No.57725458

machines like that are expensive. The best you can do is laser engraving

>> No.57725468


I've had the red, it was pleasant. My second board. First was a daskeyboard with blues. Gave both to a friend, have a masterkey pro s with doubleshot pbt transparent keycaps

>> No.57725469

absolute mad lad

put them in a drawer and dont think about them

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depends. if it's broken right into the trash. otherwise kept as a reserve.

>> No.57725483


I mafe the mistake of buying a browns board one.

I think I am going to have to replace all the switches. It is a Filco Convertible 2, so I can't just toss it.

>> No.57725506
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I just leave them around

>> No.57725510

I didn't understand a thing you said mate.

>> No.57725517

Disappointing, if I could buy one for ~$300 I'd get one to try out making some custom keys

>> No.57725538

thats some shit keyboards

>> No.57725542


The second mechanical keyboard I had was a Rosewill manufactured keyboard with Cherry Reds. The first mechanical keyboard I had was a daskeyboard with Cherry Blues. I gave both of these keyboards to a friend. I now I have a Masterkey Pro S with doubleshot PBT transparent keycaps.

That help, roofucker?

>> No.57725546

so you can get these done at wasdkeyboards but the result will be a shitty ABS keycap that will wear down after heavy use. maxkeyboards is the exact same thing, but they can do backlit keys as well. it's the easiest way to get custom keys, and likely the cheapest at $50

there's a company called varmilo that can do custom pbt dye-subbing which would be better than the wasdkeyboards stuff, but you actually have to email them for an inquiry, so i don't know anything about the price or process and what they can do

and there's a guy on reddit (yes yes i know, don't jump on me) that just tested out some custom pbt dyesubbing, and he says he will likely do custom orders in the future. so you can check that out

and i also know there's this one guy on etsy that does custom pbt stuff as well but it's very expensive

>> No.57725571

I also have model Ms, Cherrys and Duckys, but those are kept in good condition

>> No.57725583

thanks I saw wasdkeyboards stuff before, I'll check out varmilo though and any chance of a link to the guy on etsy?

>> No.57725591

Do I need another shitty keyboard?

>> No.57725601

No, get a good one instead.

>> No.57725626

Sure, everyone could use another Topre board.

>> No.57725632

decentkeyboards is his name

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Hey guys where can I buy japanese keycaps for my corsair k90?

>> No.57725638

Much better, you have to admit the first post you made wasn't written properly. It's okay though, doesn't matter.

How did you like the Rosewill? People seem to like it quite a bit. I hope I have no issues with it.

>> No.57725688
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that's the problem. Corsair uses a non standard layout (pic realted) so finding replacement keycaps is going to be really hard and requires you to get creative.

Now there are a few options like originative modern beige and EnjoyPBT

>> No.57725689


>> No.57725694


I felt that it was fine - I had no complaints. I only chose to part with it as my desk is somewhat small. I gained more space for my mouse to travel by switching to a tenkeyless board.

>> No.57725709

Yea it does look quite large, although space isn't really an issue for me at the moment.

How was the quality of this thing?

>> No.57725720

god dam that last black row is ugly af

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thats corsair for ya

>> No.57725757


Excellent. Constructed well, though the soft touch materials weren't my favorite. The keycaps wore as expected, because they are ABS. However, this is the case with all ABS keycaps. Switch them to PBT and you'll really enjoy it.

>> No.57725792

>soft touch materials
Where were these? And shit I didn't know that these used ABS, that is a negative for sure.

>Switch them to PBT and you'll really enjoy it
Might as well get a new keyboard when the keys wear out. How long does it usually take?

>> No.57725855


god damn these are dope

>> No.57725885
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not him, but the soft touch materials were on the extra keycaps that you get. You can just switch them out easily
Also the vast majority of keyboards use ABS plastics, so buying a new keyboard just because the keycaps get a yucky shine (pic related) is dumb thing to do. PBT keycap sets cost around 35-45 bucks, with some on massdrop going bellow 30 like: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-backlit-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set

The only keyboards that I know off that come with PBT keycaps by default are high end Ducky and some of the fruity 60% keyboards. Everyone uses ABS plastics

>> No.57725890

well they don't normally "wear out" to the point that you can't use them anymore; they just get shiny after use and people don't like that since it looks and feels kind of gross.

as far as how long that takes, well i guess it's however long you can stand the shiny-ness. probably between a few months and a year depending on how and how much you use a keyboard

>> No.57725905

what's wrong with browns? are reds better?

>> No.57725914

browns are reds with a grain of sand superglued to the stem

>> No.57725928

The bottom row is non standard. Getting custom caps will be harder.

>> No.57725942

is this a meme

>> No.57725953
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>Firstblood Geek

does that answer your question?

>> No.57725963

ok thanks

>> No.57725967

>Removable mini USB
Just get new caps and that's actually a nice board

>> No.57725992

it's not a 60% so the layout makes it kind of meh to find new caps for though

>> No.57725997

I kind of liked them on a key tester, does it feel different to type on them? I got reds and blues now

>> No.57726007

Wait, V80 with clears also chatters? I thought it was mostly an issue with matias switches.

>> No.57726010

um im actually new to mechanical keyboard, im coming from laptop keyboards

can you explain how i do that? like i buy new caps and then replace them or something? any recommendations on what caps?


>> No.57726022

What keycaps are these? I need some qt topre keys.

>> No.57726029


>> No.57726045

You just pull the caps off and put new ones on. GMK is one of the better brands out there.

>> No.57726046
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that guy just bought a high profile realforce and switched out the keycaps

>> No.57726060

That looks fucking disgusting, and I wouldn't doubt that it feels bad as well.
I have a Cooler Master Devastator keyboard and I have had it for about a year without it wearing out.

Do you think they will last me a year or so without having to be replaced?
Since it uses standard keys, if I buy a set will it have all the keys I need for my keyboard?

Yea I know, but I hate that look. Is it literally gonna get shiny within a month of use?

Browns are good. They just aren't as loud as the another keys or have as much feedback, they are in between. Probably the switch I am gonna stay with.
They do not feel like they have dirt or sand in them, that is a huge stretch.

>> No.57726077


Get this one instead, it's cheaper and the colors aren't as fucking annoying.

>> No.57726090

Which keyboard is that?

>> No.57726102

most likely a Ducky Shine 4

>> No.57726109

Where do I buy one of these with the Jap caps?

>> No.57726123


No clue on the dimensions. It is about the size of a normal DSA cap, but it stands out a little bit.

>> No.57726157
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from japan. They cost around $100 more tho with shipping and import fees

>> No.57726159

yes you can buy new caps, but the ajazz keyboard has some differently placed keys than normal, so not all sets will fit that keyboard. just a forewarning

i don't think it will look as disgusting as in the picture within only a month, but it might be a little shiny. i'll admit i don't know exactly how long because i haven't had those kinds of keys in a long time.

we are talking about the rosewill, right? a normal set of keys should cover it, since it's standard
a set of PBT keys from ducky or vortex shouldn't be too expensive

>> No.57726198

Would these work properly?

Like would every key replace every key on the Rosewill keyboard?

>> No.57726228
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yes, Rosewill uses a standard layout so this shouldn't be a problem. Any standard keycap set will fit

>> No.57726286


>> No.57726307

big deal the keyboard was already $300 to begin with. whats an extra 100 really

>> No.57726335

Oh shit do you have the same keyboard?

>> No.57726446

So do they work just fine? I found a set of Jap keycaps for the real force that are only $100 on eBay , SA0100-kt1. Would they work on my HHKB?

>> No.57726449

>says $39 in keycaps directory
>actually $95
those jap red and blacks look gr8 too

>> No.57726529

$39 is the price for the blanks. Obviously the dye-subbed ones are more expensive.

>> No.57726533

should have preordered them bud

>> No.57726545


XDA Milestone has a very similar japanese set.

I ordered IMSTO but it never came, so I decided to try XDA.

>> No.57726595

you'll have to check the layouts. JIS is different from ANSI and the hhkb has a non-standard layout anyway. though if they have the same profile i'm sure you could just put the alphas on and leave the modifiers alone

>> No.57726823


It's fucking time we stop the keyism. We need to stop the violence we're perpetrating in the name of promoting mechanical-serving interests and give rubber domes a FAIR CHANCE at the American Dream.

>> No.57726879
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except Topres are both rubber domes and mechanical

>> No.57726943


>> No.57727001
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Buckling springs on the model M are actually actuating using membranes, but shh... don't tell this general that

>> No.57727005


>> No.57727082


They're capacitively sensed and have no contact mechanism whatsoever. They're the exact opposite of mechanical.

>> No.57727177
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good night /mkg/

>> No.57727208

should I get a pok3r with clears or nature whites?

My only experience with mechanical keyboards so far is my RK-9000 with blues.

>> No.57727215

ordered a qisan 68-key with brown switches for work
If I like it I believe I will order the blue switch version for home

thoughts on qisan as a brand?

>> No.57727245

depends. Do you like linear switches that offer now tactile feedback, then get the whites. Or do you hate the clicky sound of your blues, but still want some tactile feedback that isn't just dirt stick in some reds, then get clears

>> No.57727262


>> No.57727292
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I hate to break it to you, but qisan has a floating key design like razer stealth, so its much louder then other keyboards. Also the keycaps are just as thin so don't expect your co-workers to appreciate your presence

>> No.57727333

I have a bunch of extra keycaps lying arond, maybe I'll try switching em out if they're too clicky

>> No.57727399

>reddit the switch

Only 80g tactile and clicky switches are worthwhile

>> No.57727455
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ducky shine 3 TKL cherry mx blue switches w/ 0rings and PBT caps

>> No.57727457
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>Wasting space on a fuckhueg enter key
>Crippling the size of the left shift to make room for a key that's meant to be near the enter.

>> No.57727461

whites are tactile and clicky but they are inconsistent. Some click more than others.

>> No.57727489
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>The girl has a mechanical body. However she is still an adolescent child

>> No.57727493

so membrane buckling springs, cherry greens + whites, and blue alps are the only worthwhile switches

>> No.57727524

>whites are tactile and clicky but they are inconsistent
not nature whites, those are linear.

you are thinking of milk whites:


>> No.57727557

Nice pen. What is it?

>> No.57727574

hey quick question, i kinda want a mechanical keyboard, but i'd like something that makes a nice clicky feeling without noise.

i know browns suck, not enough feedback.

so where can i get an MX tactile grey keyboard?

>> No.57727597
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Feelios are offered with 78g springs, close enough.

>mfw waiting on 67g & 78g feelios, aristotles, MOD-M and MOD-H switches
>only planning on building one ergodox

>> No.57727618

I don't know of any board that comes with tactile greys as stock. You can get the switches themselves from mechanicalkeyboards.com then just build whatever board you want with them.

Greys are heavy as fuck though, you sure you want a ~120g bottom out?

>> No.57727661

There is only one switch that fits your description. It is called matias quiet click. They are more tactile then anything cherry has to offer, and are even quieter then rubber domes. You can find them here if you are in the US:


there are still some black Friday coupons so you can check those out and get a small discount.

And here if you are in Europe:

>> No.57727682
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Ducky sells some, but good like finding some in stock.

>> No.57727726

it's a wahl eversharp tuplic clip pen from the 20s

>> No.57727750

Bloody beautiful. Pictures of guts?

>> No.57727781
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yeah, i want greys because i always press as hard as i can anyway, so it'll stop me bottoming out. really i like my rubber dome keyboard, but y'know this meme looks nice.

anything for canada?
that looks pretty cool, but might be a bit too heavy even. plus caps'll be a bitch to find for non-cherry/topre/whatever switches

although, if i'll be DIY-ing something, would there be any way to fit mechanical switches in an old keyboard? i've been using the same one since 2003 and it's super nice. pic related.

>> No.57727797

>would there be any way to fit mechanical switches in an old keyboard?
Not in a rubber dome board like that.

>> No.57727810
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>> No.57727818

you are better of getting a used steel series 6gv2 with browns, then replacing the switches with greys if you want that specific layout.

>> No.57727823

Nib looks a little worse for wear. Did you do your own restore job on it?

>> No.57727844

well that sucks.

yeah but that keyboard's not beige and has no wrist wrest thing.

>> No.57727901
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I think it cleaned up nicely since then. Those were pics from right when I found it.

I did restore it, yeah.

>> No.57728161

I bought a keyboard.


>> No.57728225
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60% keyboard fags. How would you program pic related for use with a modern OS? Thinking of having caps lock be control and right shift being fn toggle.

>> No.57728239

Is there any switch that is as smooth as a topre? I tried a friends blues and the "2-step" actuaction just felt too weird, same with browns at a walmart.

>> No.57728247

Hall effect.

>> No.57728260


>> No.57728407
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>rubber dome but with mechanical switch on top
doesnt that just make it a rubber dome

>> No.57728421

regular rubber domes don't have the feeling of oneness with cup rubber

>> No.57728627
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If memechanical keyboards aren't a waste of money and indeed do boost productivity, why haven't I heard about any one of you fuckers on the media known as an accomplished computer programming hacker whom advocates for these keyboards and commends their immense benefits on his success?

really makes you think.

>> No.57728647

>mfw i don't eve ngive a shit if they're rubber dome or trumech
topres are best mother fucking switches. go home poorfags

>> No.57728648

It's not about improving productivity. It's about enjoying the experience of typing. Why do you think people still use fountain pens or shave with straight razors? It's a better experience but it doesn't magically make you more productive.

>> No.57728667

no idea. both the boards i received had chattering on multiple keys (the v80 clears was a lot worse).

i didn't ask for a replacement so i could've just been extremely unlucky with the v80. from a few google searches it seems like v60 is the one with chattering issues in general (i don't think it's limited to a specific switch).

>> No.57728689

>straight razors
shit analogy senpai, since nothing comes close for a clean shave.

>> No.57728703

DE razors come pretty close, and are much easier to use.

>> No.57728968

I'm so sorry /mkg/

I wasn't planning to go down this route, believe me, but $70 Canadian for a refurbed Razer Blackwidow Ultimate was legitimately the most practical option for me this Black Friday.

Sure I would have liked to drop $120 on that Ducky Shine over on DirectCanada, but that just wasn't in the cards. And believe me, I checked my other options. The Razer was the best fit for me.

Someday I will have a really cool mech and can get on your level, but it just wasn't feasible right now and I just can't stand this $15 Logitech POS anymore.

>> No.57729035


Greens are just stiffer blues, but feel so much better. Give those a try if you want something clicky.

If you just want something smooth, look at zealios.

>> No.57729070



But the best topre board is only $200 (hhkb pro 2). That is pretty much entry level cost when it comes to customs.

My korean custom cost closer to $400 with caps and everything, and it was a budget build.

>> No.57729081


Safety razors are just as good and dirt cheap along with easy to use.

>> No.57729085


Gateron linears. If you're looking for smooth keys foremost you don't want anything clicky or tactile.

>> No.57729097


Well on the bright side when you're ready to get rid of it you can clean it up and probably sell it to some gaymurr for around what you paid for it.

>> No.57729139


It's a KBP thing, not a switch thing. Something about their board design or firmware makes them shit at switch debouncing.

>> No.57729149


They probably use cheap switches without crosspoint.

>> No.57729164


Yeah, they should have gone with Gateron instead of Cherry.

>> No.57729191

mechanical is mechanical. it will still be a vast upgrade over some shitty rubber dome. for $70 canadabucks that's not terrible, sounds like you weighed your options and made an informed purchase to me. i hope you enjoy your blackwidow regardless of what anyone around here says.

>> No.57729212


Cherry has crosspoint though.

>> No.57729231


They also chatter on KBP boards so clearly that can't actually be true.

>> No.57729281


There were a couple other candidates in the race. On Black Friday Newegg had an Azio MGK-1 RGB on for 100 Canabucks. And a while back I was looking at paying $50 for a Chinese seven color board off of Aliexpress.

Ultimately I'm glad I passed on both. I don't really need the rainbow crap (my favorite color is green, conveniently, and it's the only color I would have used on an RGB board) and like the other anon said it would be an easy sell if I ever want to upgrade. This keyboard typically sells for $140 Canadian so I reckon I'd get my money back pretty easily.

>> No.57729314

I love keyboards

>> No.57729327

me too anon

>> No.57729338

so whats the difference in an US keyboard? despite the fact that we have a lot of extra keys on my language i always type in english anyway

is there going to be anything different? i mean obviously the special keys are going to be elsewhere but i use a linux server on a daily basis where the character coding is english as well so im familiar with the mapping

>> No.57729358


Must be a firmware issue then. Wrong debounce time or something.

>> No.57729386

Not heaps. It'll be easier to find keycaps for an American board over anything else.

>> No.57729401

its a hobby and feels good desu
posted from my $250 Topre keyboard

>> No.57729402
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>> No.57729411

Not mechanical
gaymer gear
extra shit that no-one needs

>> No.57729463
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This ones mechanical, now what do you think

>> No.57729468

Depends on the language. Non 3rd world language like Japanese you just have some modifiers out of place I believe.

3rd world Muslim shitholes like Europe you got some full retard shit.

>> No.57729472

Still pretty trash to be honest. It's another $100 piece of shit that is only marginally better than the keyboard I'm already using plus it clutters up my desk.

>> No.57729539

im from hungary but im using ENG language settings anyway

nobody speaks muslim here anon, we have fences

if they get through we beat them to death

>> No.57729551
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Hey guys, what is your opinion on the Razer Blackwidow chroma?

Right now there is a pretty good Cyber Monday deal going on (35% off) and I am in need of a new good keyboard.

Does anyone have any experience with it? Anyone know the difference between the stealth and clicky ones?


>> No.57729554

Do not buy anything razer or corsair period

>> No.57729568


Japan jas a completely unique bottom row and a special number row too.

Not to mention that terrible iso enter.

>> No.57729569

What about this? >>57722197
I don't know whether to get it, currently using a thin membrane keyboard from a wireless mouse/keyboard convo

>> No.57729650

But I have been using a Razer Arctosa keyboard for the past 5 years or so and I enjoy it, it has a great hand rest and has done me well for all these years.

>> No.57729682

>Hand rest
Good goy
Kill your wrists

Enjoy your tendinitis

>> No.57729733

why are clear switches $16 more than blue switches?

>> No.57729761

Demand and offer

Every other pleb buys blue

>> No.57729775

so can i buy keycaps for tomoko keyboards or its way too cheap to have keycaps for it?

any other suggestions for low cost good mechanical keyboards?

>> No.57729794

If you do not bother reading the wiki

Why would we bother reading your post?

>> No.57729823

kil yourself elitist prick

>> No.57729840

just get the tomoko its gud
also if you live in the us mechanicalkeyboards.com is having a sale

>> No.57729852

>ISOFags will actually agree with this

good luck programming on ISO dumbfuck

>> No.57729876

no i dont live in the US

tomoko is sold on the UK amazon too and would only charge 7 pounds for shipping
not sure if i should buy it, if its broken when it arrives then its ogre

>> No.57729898

basically half an ergonomic keyboard with a thumbstick stuck on the side


>> No.57729900

doesn't amazon do full refunds?

>> No.57729915
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>not just waiting for the king's assembly

>> No.57729923

well there was an option for warranty so i assumed they don't

>> No.57729927

its probably not going to be broken I mean even the cheepo keyboards work fine for like years

>> No.57729932

I don't understand

what are those things in the middle?
how do you use it?
is this a rear view and the plates on top are where you're supposed to put your wrists?

>> No.57729935

>Needless piles of shit styling
Where the fuck does your hand go?

>> No.57729949

You're looking at it backwards

>> No.57729950

its going to be shit way too much tilt on the end

>> No.57729986
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im sorry but this shit just looks hilarious in use

>> No.57730001

top kek

>> No.57730003


>> No.57730127

Tempted by a matias quiet click now. Only the vortex v60/80 looks decent but no pbt keycaps for alps.

>> No.57730413

quick guys do I buy mx blues or clears?

>> No.57730429

Clears, they're more tactile than blues.

>> No.57730444

shit their $14 more

>> No.57730455

because they're better

>> No.57730463

k ill get it famo shit better not be a meme

>> No.57730504
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I fucking regret it already

>> No.57730544
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>want keyboard with tactile bump
>tomoko really, really cheap
>probably too loud for office work
>don't know if o-rings will make any difference
>no budget keyboards with clears

Send help.

>> No.57730577

>looks like you're commanding a spaceship
>just shitposting as usual

>> No.57730633

Yea blues are loud af
Buy reds

>> No.57730657
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I got reds but it feels weird without the bump, thus my conundrum. You know of any cheap keyboards with clears?

Also, what's the gateron/kailh equivalent of cherry clears?

>> No.57730669

zealios are the equivalent to clears from gateron.

>> No.57730860

those seem to be even scarcer.

>> No.57730861

>work in Office
>No budget for a tool you use Daily to earn your money

Whiskey tango foxtrot

>> No.57730984

I have several other expenditures, plus I'm europoor. When I find my end game I'll probably sell most cheap keyboards and buy a really good one for general use. The hobby is too expensive for me, I just want a comfy keyboard.

>> No.57730991


damn why is it not blank, fug

>> No.57731060


As in, white keys?..

>> No.57731081

i meant no text on the keycaps as in blank

>> No.57731082

are they? my straight razor is blunt and a the shit to sharpen it is expensive, that and its vintage and worth a lot so i dont really want to ruin it.

been using an electric shaver and its fucking awful

>> No.57731092

don't take the meme too far

>> No.57731112

i dont understand

>> No.57731135

blank caps is a dangerously meme keyboard characteristic.

>> No.57731152

but why would i need non-blanks when im not even looking at the keyboard?
i know where my shit are

>> No.57731160

I'm just fucking with you, I wish I could type without looking, those clear keyboards look great. I always need to look because of symbols and other shit, though.

>> No.57731174
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Thermaltake Tt eSPORTS Poseidon Z RGB or Logitech G810 Orion?

I really wanted one with RGB leds, please don't judge me.

>> No.57731180
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I just got my first mkb with brown
Its cool but my shitty hollow IKEA desk is working like an amplifier and making the keypresses loud, best way to reduce this?

>> No.57731200

couldnt tell because im new here plus lurking most of the time trying to find some good keyboard but i really cant find any good TKL blank one that is cheap

>> No.57731303

Nice. Can you tell me the difference, browns vs blues vs reds? I need tactile bump but clears are expensive. You like them browns?

>> No.57731439
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Skip electric, skip thw modern multi-blade shit, get a safety razor.

Merkur makes awesome blades.

>> No.57731478


>> No.57731533

its my first mkb how the fug would I know the difference

>> No.57731539

I thought you were deeper in this meme. No worries.

>> No.57731626

>I thought you were deeper in this meme. No worries.

Ahahah nobody who knows shit would buy Browns m8

>> No.57731677
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that is not how in works faggot. The ISO layout has a smaller left shift because it has 1 key more than ANSI. It is US ANSI where for no fucking reason whatsoever the backslash key is 0.5u wider than any other key of the alpha block, but the the combined size of enter and backslash keys in ISO and ANSI ist the same.
is right though. Fuck most logical layouts for ISO keyboards

>> No.57731730

When you tell me browns are shit and it's still one of the most used switches (ahead of clears and blues), I have to ask...

>> No.57731740

I do it everyday, don't find it hard desu

>> No.57731762

>everyone says browns are the most "normal" switch
>people buy them and don't try anything else
>2 used as further evidence for 1
>repeat infinitely

>ahead of clears and blues
>ahead of switch that's expensive and uncommon and switch that makes clicking noise a lot of people don't want

>> No.57731779

I know popularity doesn't equal quality, but to an extent it actually may. I have to make sure.

>> No.57731810

If you really want to make sure, go buy a switch tester with a variety of switches and try them all out. Don't just listen to random people telling you what they like.


$30, free shipping, Cherry Black, Red, Brown, Blue, Tactile Gray, Linear Gray, White, Clear and Green, Gateron Black, Red, Brown, Blue, Yellow, White and Green plus a Razer Green thrown in for good measure.

>> No.57731823

This kills the newfag

>> No.57731846

What else are you gonna do, spend probably $100 or more on a product you might not like?

>> No.57731863

>30 dollars

Will stop at customs and I'll have to spit out about 20 more dollars. So, basically, 50 dollars for a fucking switch tester. I know it's probably worth, but for fuck sake, I'm europoor and still only own 1 budget chink keyboard. It hurts my wallet.

>> No.57731895

Is this better? 20 Euros, free shipping within Europe but only 6 switch types (Cherry Blue, Red, Green, Black and Brown) plus a bonus Novatouch switch.


>> No.57731934

Thanks but I took another look at the other one. It reads 20 Euros for me, it might just go through customs. Now I'm tempted.

None of them have clears though, right?

>> No.57731957

The ebay one does have clears if you choose Set B. Set A only has Reds, Browns, Blacks and Blues from Cherry, Gateron and Greetech, plus a Razer Green.

>> No.57731966

I fucking hate poor people.

Not because they are poor, but because they waste more money in trying to be cheap.

They buy cheap shit, then more cheap shit, then finally realize they need the good stuff and in the end they spent more money.


>> No.57732021


Please note that razor greens are shit.

Real cherry greens are best clicky switch hands down.

>> No.57732127

>Set B
>30 fucking euros

Ok, nevermind. I'm basically fucked if I want to try clears.

>> No.57732145

Sorry mate

>> No.57732577

buy a new controller for it and flash firmware onto it

>> No.57732578
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