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56959326 No.56959326 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe] [rbt]

Why is every single desktop environment terrible?

Buggy and bloated

What the fuck?

>> No.56959371

Just use windows you neet.

>> No.56959375

KDE isn't all that buggy but it is bloated.
XFCE isn't outdated.
Gnome is looking good these days, there's nothing wrong with it.
Cinnamon isn't very good, I'll agree.
Unity looks good but is shit by association.

>> No.56959389

Because you don't need a DE. Just install wayland

>> No.56959481

KDE Neon isn't bloated

>> No.56959517

Because it's not how you'd like it to be. It's linux and you change whatever you like. It's not like you're using some locked down proprietary system that presents it's marketing miracle with every key stroke and mouse hover.

>> No.56959711

because linux is shit.

xfce is the least cancerous though but it's still shit. it's not even as good as windows 95.

Linux will be finished once fuschia comes on the scene next year.

>> No.56959747

Unix philosophy of being only good at one thing

ie. KDE is good looking but buggy as fuck

>> No.56959757

Meh, it is ok.

solid DE, fuck you.

3 is shit, all other versions were great esp. for neets

meh, using it right now pretty cute

shit is an understatement

>> No.56959791


Get the fuck out of my /g/ motherfucker. Cinnamon and mint has helped so many normies get off the windows train.

>> No.56959795

Go old school and run CDE.

>> No.56959822

G'day MATE.

>> No.56959823

But it's buggy and KDE still doesn't fully support Wayland which means it's useless because X is cancer.

>> No.56959824
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>complaining about something you didn't pay for AND that you can edit to your liking and redistribute freely without legal repercussions AND that nobody is forcing you to use in the first place

>> No.56959897

But even the commercial UNIX DE's sucked. Have you tried using CDE? OPENLOOK? JDS?

>> No.56959912
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GNOME 3 isn't even bad. It's one of the only DEs that can be almost totally keyboard controlled.

>> No.56959918

Linux is shit. It's always been shit.

Linus made the kernel as a hobby and basically said "here ya go". Then the GNU people ported the GNU shit to work with it, THEN later people thought about using it as a desktop OS so they started making UI's for it.

Windows and OSX from day 1 where designed to be a desktop OS. Linux was not.

>> No.56959923

What is the DE in OP's image?

>> No.56959942

>Linux is shit. It's always been shit.

>Windows and OSX from day 1 where designed to be a desktop OS. Linux was not

Not true. It was a replacement for commercial UNIX for PC's on 386 processors.

>> No.56959963
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Cinnamon is perfect in Debian stable

>> No.56960012

kde4 neon works perfectly fine on some distros, especially paired with openbox. (kde+openbox on debia has been heavenly compared to the stuff i have had to deal with in this regard) distro development needs to gear at least a little towards de development or de compatibility development. some have..

>> No.56960018

a de that has wm like functionality is great, but only if it still has good de functionality.

>> No.56960046

Not a single mention of LXDE or i3.

>> No.56960066

How is XFCE outdated? XFCE is beautiful.

>> No.56960072

>Someone out there actually has a desktop that looks like this
This is disgusting to think about.

>> No.56960079

I bet yours is shittier.

>> No.56960091

>Buggy and bloated
not an issue on anything that is not worse than a C2D
Yeah. ThatÄS the problem.
But the last versions of 4 are perfect!
I installed Centos7 a while ago, or actually, exactly that while ago:
# uptime
21:37:24 up 7 days, 9:00, 6 users, load average: 0.14, 0.23, 0.22

and KDE didnt crash once so far. With KDE5, I had something like 2 crashes an hour (which did not really cause any issues, to be honest), but having a crashreporter pop up every 30 minutes or something and loosing and gaining your taskbar all the time gets on your nerves.

>> No.56960104

>kde4 neon
tell me more!
Is there a neon version with KDE4?

>> No.56960112

nigga, I have one year of linux and even I can take openbox, i3, dwm, awesome and make my own "Desktop Environment"

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I use Gnome and it's fine. If the system has integrated graphics I use Xfce

>> No.56960142

>not reading the file name

>> No.56960184

Accurate post


>> No.56960238
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You can make XFCE look and feel exactly like the classic Windows environment.

>> No.56960257

Because FOSS development is messy.

>> No.56960303

One evening, Master Foo and Nubi attended a gathering of programmers who had met to learn from each other. One of the programmers asked Nubi to what school he and his master belonged. Upon being told they were followers of the Great Way of Unix, the programmer grew scornful.

“The command-line tools of Unix are crude and backward,” he scoffed. “Modern, properly designed operating systems do everything through a graphical user interface.”

Master Foo said nothing, but pointed at the moon. A nearby dog began to bark at the master's hand.

“I don't understand you!” said the programmer.

Master Foo remained silent, and pointed at an image of the Buddha. Then he pointed at a window.

“What are you trying to tell me?” asked the programmer.

Master Foo pointed at the programmer's head. Then he pointed at a rock.

“Why can't you make yourself clear?” demanded the programmer.

Master Foo frowned thoughtfully, tapped the programmer twice on the nose, and dropped him in a nearby trashcan.

As the programmer was attempting to extricate himself from the garbage, the dog wandered over and piddled on him.

At that moment, the programmer achieved enlightenment.

>> No.56960309

> not using fvwm

wew OP

>> No.56960330
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just installed debian pretty comfy need to tinker with the fonts though infact i fucked up my fonts and i am just going to rebuild

>> No.56960341

>Nothing wrong
Sure, nothing wrong with autistic devs that keep removing features with every release, and let's not even mention the fucking retarded gtk file pickers and their lack of thumbnails.

>> No.56960359
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Oh my. I've been using xfce as my desktop for so long that I didn't realize this...

>> No.56960379
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XFCE is not shit. Gnome is shit. The other ones you mentioned are usable.

If you really hate DE's either make your own or just use a WM.

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> X is cancer.
Tell us more about how being able to run a program off another box on the network on the local display is a bad thing. Wayland will by design never have a fraction of what X offers.

>> No.56960401

X hasn't been properly network transparent for a long time now

>> No.56960417

Amazing, and not outdated
Personally don't like it, but most /g/ fags do
Looks amazing with numix gtk and circle themes
i3wm is god tier

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>> No.56960571

I'm tired of Xfce but I hate everything else. What should I do?

>> No.56960605

>>>56960012 (You)
>>kde4 neon
>tell me more!
>Is there a neon version with KDE4?
meant a slash, obviously

>> No.56960623

Budgie is the best.

>> No.56960687

I'd rather use Unity than fucking Gnome. Gnome is the worst.

>> No.56960718

Just use MATE. Or Pantheon, Budgie, and Hawaii.

>> No.56960815

>lists of open source DEs
>complains every single one is shit

What do you except?
Open source devs don't give a single fuck when programming their shit. "The others will fix it for me..."

>> No.56960871

>gtk is shit
>that only leaves kde

things are not looking good in the linux world. gtk's death is inevitable so it's time to move on

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>> No.56961092

God that's nice, I'd go with a win7 theme personally.

Still nice effort

>> No.56961156

Came here to post this.

No excuse not to be using MATE if your only choice is a gtk distro.

>> No.56961243

All this hate for KDE and I've come to love it. Did a fresh install on a celeron machine and was absolutely amazed at how comfy plasma has gotten. It seems it's back to the KDE 3.5 levels of usability.

>> No.56961259

Gnome 3 is actually bretty gud if you want to use a convertible/touchscreen laptop. Currently the only DE that makes this easy and good looking, also the only szenario in which gnome 3 makes sense.

>> No.56961267

Your problem is your brain

>> No.56961287

Just the library.

>> No.56961288
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>it's not even as good as windows 95.
Retard detected.
By default it's begs for ricing.
Have you read the NT code?
Fast and furry.
w7 is actually an ugly shit

>> No.56961303

It doesn't matter what you're using, as long as it's not Gnome 3.

>> No.56961352 [DELETED] 

why are you all so obsessed with the DE? it seems every other thread is about how muh linux looks.

>> No.56961397
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XFCE is nice.

Any DE/WM can work depending on your requirements. You're using Linux; it's not like there aren't choices.

Personally I like XFCE for most things because I can make it bland as fuck so I can concentrate.

>> No.56961429

Why do you use DE? Configure your env yourself: Openbox, i3wm there're plenty of them. Or buy Mac, it's for rich lazy laggards.

>> No.56961431

Fucking disgusting, like all Manjaros. Better than the default tho.

>> No.56961432

I like Gnome, even if I have to sell my soul to the devil to use it.

>> No.56961436

What about Budgie or MATE? I'm curious of your thoughts on them.

>> No.56961530
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I miss this old style.

Why were old DEs so comfy?

>> No.56961541
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>Using anything other then KDE Cinnamon And Xfce

>> No.56961591

Nobody here uses Weston?

>> No.56961675

Sway-git is gud.

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im a big fan of open box window enviroments if you ask me : ^ )

>> No.56961979

What the fuck? Linux costs $15 here.

>> No.56962194

I use LXDE on VM's. Shit is so cash because of the minimal resources needed by it.

I can use some concurrent VM's on a i5 with 8 gigs of ram and doing good, try to do the same with other DE's.

LXDE is godly for VM's or really orld machines

>> No.56962760

GNOME is too barebones and feels like a tablet interface. Literally nothing wrong with KDE.

>> No.56962820

Would it be safe to say that the reason KDE started again with Plasma is because of ongoing Wayland integration?

>> No.56963280

Just installed plasma in a vm cause a screenshot looked nice and I wanted to check it out.
it. is. soooo. fucking.. LAGGY....

Its got VT-x , 4 gb of ram, and 4 cores.. what the fuck.

>> No.56963364

Just loaded the vm up in kvm, its not laggy as shit anymore, though my mouse seems to have dissapeared.

>> No.56963382

I use ApricityOS and it's a really good desktop environment

>> No.56963484

Its on my actual os now. Its running smooth and has a cursor but now half the fucking icons are gone, even the kde ones and in the settings menu. wtf.

>> No.56963494

>Plasma 5
You haven't tried the latest one? They've fixed almost every autistic nitpick I had about certain features. I use it daily, now.

>> No.56963652
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There is literally nothing wrong with Gnome.

>> No.56963773

its just the icons in the kde menu.
I set the theme to dark and I really like it now. Only issue with the theme is nemo doesnt copy it, but thats probably an issue with nemo and something to do wtih being made for gnome or some other meme, have to find something else.

>> No.56963795

Doesn't work well with virtualbox seamless mode

>> No.56963826

virtualbox seems to be fucking up alot.
It was fucking over my kde install, yet it works fine out of virtualbox.
I think virtualbox is geared for windows.

>> No.56963828

fuck off... cinnamon on arch is comfy

>> No.56963848

just left it. its grating.

>> No.56963857

Which KDE? It took a while, but KDE 4 finally matured and became quite stable.

But it was replaced with Plasma, which is just unusable in my opinion.

>> No.56964008

this is really the problem with linux, its just a million different projects going on at the exact same time and by the time soemthing is actually done, everyones moved on to different tastes and its time to start over again.

>> No.56964110

kde5 is almost perfect though
good de
the performance is bad tbqh
only good thing is the hud and the global menu
good DE but lags on older machines

install X11/openbox/tint2/dzen/dmenu/xmonad/bspwm/gentoo if you want a good desktop environment

>> No.56964137

KDE isn't bloated, but it is buggy as fuck.
You also forgot to mention that gnome, cinnamon, unity and KDE require systemd.
As for xfce, it doesn't qualify as a DE because it does not have its own programs for anything useful.

Back in the early 2k, both gnome and kde were fucking fantastic. Nowadays, that's what we're stuck with: complete garbage. The only real option is mate, and it's just a desperate attempt at keeping the only sane option alive.

>> No.56964148

we should make our own cool desktop environment

>> No.56964170

The unity global menu and hud are the definition of cancer. They do nothing but kill your keystrokes and waste space and time.
KDE5 isn't even remotely usable.
xfce is just a wm with bundled, unrelated, garbage programs.

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but the hud is faster than navigating gimp and the global menu saves space

>> No.56964209
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>> No.56964225

I'll make the logo

>> No.56964228

>this is what reddit believes

>> No.56964243

>I can't form my own opinions and/or I am a baitmaster
the post

>> No.56964292

XFCE is pretty neat when it comes with the right distro.

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>> No.56964396


>> No.56964455

>complaining about something you didn't pay for AND that you can edit to your liking and redistribute freely without legal repercussions AND that nobody is forcing you to use in the first place
Yeah, except that if you use proprietary software that doesn't respect muh freedums you get screamed at. So apparently /g/ just doesn't want anyone to use computers.

>> No.56964467

>what is Aqua
just werks, up to date, very good also quartz is better than all alternative stacking window managers

>> No.56964482

>watching SAO

>> No.56964490

Such as?

>> No.56964496

Those aren't legitimate criticisms. Nothing you said has any substance. There are plenty of users of all the DEs you listed.

All completely fine and usable.

That's the real, boring opinion that most people have. You decide on which one you're most comfortable with.

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>> No.56964503
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Come home white man.

>> No.56964540
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I put Xubuntu on an old Macbook Air last night and was surprised how clean it looked. I didn't even need to rice it really.

>> No.56964754

>program dock thing on the side
Was AmigaOS influenced by NeXTstep or was it the other way around?

>> No.56964787

>Linux will be finished once fuschia comes on the scene next year.


I think it's true.

>> No.56964810
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>still running outdated GNU software
>not using superior IBM OS/2 WARP

>> No.56964812

There's no reason to use anything other than KDE, or XFCE if you're on a toaster

>> No.56964844

It's called arcaOS now

>> No.56964893

To be fair gnu + Linux are also just clones of Unix, a standard desktop OS

>> No.56964924

Isn't fuschia meant for embedded systems/mobile? I'm not sure if there are any plans for it to be available as a desktop OS and even then if people are going to develop DEs for it

>> No.56965064

Just use a wm, no need for a full de.

>> No.56965094


Seconded. I've stuck with Fluxbox for years. Never needed a DE for anything.

>> No.56965157

Funny, I use fluxbox too. Share configs?

>> No.56965183

Install windows bro.

>> No.56965185

i3 is great, started using it a week ago and it just feels so good. Very minimal, hella functional, makes using an old shitty netbook with a tiny touchpad really easy.

>> No.56965188


>> No.56965240
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xfce is so fucking bad holy shit
the language picker plugin triggers me every time

>> No.56965253

>Buggy and bloated

not anymore

>> No.56965255

isn't xfce modular? can't you just remove the language picker plugin?

>> No.56965267

KDE uses less RAM than Unity and Gnome now

>> No.56965279

i can't remove it because there is no alternatives to it
english is not the only language i speak, i need to switch keyboard layouts

>> No.56965284

>anything other then
>other then

>> No.56965293


>> No.56965305
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>Present day, Present time
>not using either LXDE / KDE / LXQT or GNOME
They require a little customization, but they're all good.

>> No.56965313

write your own then nigger, not like that kind of script is hard to do

>> No.56965320
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I tried gwenview (KDE) a month or so ago and tags didn't work (buggy) and it requires all this crap for a freaking image viewer (bloated).

>> No.56965350

>downloading themes

>> No.56965374

Well i have edited config files if that tickles you.

Tint2, also messed around with MiWM and IceWM. I just needed to get something comfy and usable setup on this lappy.

>> No.56965381

>depends on kemoticons
for what pvrpose

>> No.56965398

for the same reason deluge depends on pygame.

>> No.56965437

We're not talking about milk here. If it gets the job done, who cares?

>> No.56965476

you misspelled 'i3'

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>> No.56965582

>Ubuntu on an old Macbook Air
>on an old Macbook Air
>not VM

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>> No.56965750

Hey! Thats pretty good. How do I download this theme?

>> No.56965769
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Just use openbox

>> No.56965866

Numix theme with circle icons.

>> No.56968488

I tried windows, but something happened.

>> No.56968535


I switched from xfce. Huge difference.

>> No.56968947

I had this issue on my windows too. Any ideas How to fix it?

>> No.56969082

Installing Linux Mint on an old laptop. Do I go XFCE or MATE?

I was a fan of GNOME 2 back in the day, but I'm a Windowsfag in regular life so I can appreciate a DE with a little extra, so long as it's nothing superfluous.

>> No.56969221

Use dwm faggot

>> No.56969229

XFCE. But I would prefer lmde2, what comes with Mate (or cinnamon) - add XFCE and make your own decision.

>> No.56969296
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same for arch

>> No.56969357

Xfce is by far the best DE.
>lightweight but not too lightweight
>very customizable out of the box
>sane settings menu
>not outdated, it still works fine
>rock solid
>can look decent

>> No.56969410

>it does not have its own programs
xfce-terminal and thunar?

>> No.56969645

>KDE isn't all that buggy

Tried Kmail? The bugs are not just festering, it actively tries to hunt down your backups to wreck the mail archives even there.

And seen the apologists at KDE at work?= It is even worse than the LM shills grunting overtime at /k/. Forflit screams like wounded animal in the LWN forum if anyone makes a negative comment.

There are bugs and evil bugs but KDE bugs are in a class of their own. Thank goodness.

>> No.56969651

it looks decent out of the box with the new default xfwm4 theme and adwaita

with no window borders

>> No.56969734


or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/something-kb.conf

not really but its alright

>> No.56969744

You dont have to use every bloody KDE program to use the KDE desktop.
I dont use internet explorer on windows.

>> No.56969753


>> No.56969792
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What the FUCK is going on with your terminal fonts?

>> No.56969810

hey what kind of floating task bar is this?

>> No.56969840

There is 1 thing wrong with gnome. Performance on certain AMD cards.

I mean I know drivers are shit but that's something I can't deny. Other than that? I love the fuck out of gnome. I wish for fucking silky smooth (excuse the fucking term) animations though. That's all I want.

>> No.56969841

Was the keming on that terminal intentional?

>> No.56969872

Is there a WM that looks like this?

>> No.56969946

Why aren't you using WindowMaker?

>> No.56970034

NeXT influenced everything.

>> No.56970044

LXDE anyone?

>> No.56970048

That font rendering is even worse than on Windows

>> No.56970087


It's the ultimate.

>> No.56970100

It's called "update"

>> No.56970103

Absolutely based. Fuck ricing, that shit is minimal and functional out of the box.

>> No.56970108

Window Maker looks like fucking NEXT, not Amiga OS.

>> No.56970117

Can you list what you miss and what you don't about xfce? I use it and i like it a lot.

>> No.56970176

That particular Amiga screenshot has a bunch of NeXT-like elements, that's why I suggested it.

If you want Amiga, just run fucking AmigaOS http://www.amigaos.net

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> just run fucking AmigaOS
Fuck no, I'm not a masochist.

>> No.56970220

hahaha, I didn't even realize you had to buy specialized PPC hardware to run that shit.

>> No.56970235

Any attempt to recreate old GUIs usually fails sadly

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>keeping all your mp3's unsorted in a music folder

>> No.56970257

They were designed for white men who had things to accomplish

>> No.56970272

>Haiku theme
>Haiku icons
>Classic mac logo

>> No.56970541

>"my opinion is fact"


>> No.56970628

Is it possible to use Gnome 3 or KDE4 and maintain 100% of the battery life I get using awesome and handpicked on a laptop?

>> No.56970656

>good DE but lags on older machines

That's what MATE is for.

>> No.56970847

Surely you're not using it just aesthetics, right? There is more you can use it for, right?

>> No.56971239

I know.

However Kmail is just the tip of the iceberg. It and many others rely on numerous servers in a free flying formation, like Akonadi, and unless the stars are perfectly lined up they will engineer an advanced meltdown where the only thing going up is the CPU load.

In addition to a disasterous attitude they also have an architcture that matches.

>> No.56971258
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Nothing wrong with KDE

>> No.56971968

Thunar isn't xfce-specific. Xfce-terminal, is. It's also a buggy piece of shit which will suddenly stop correctly outputting shit and show a blank screen instead (basically as if something had spammed 'clear' past the buffer end, except for the last line).

>> No.56972018

The thing is it's not "lightweight but not too lightweight" at fucking all. It's bloated as all fuck (in the real non-meme sense of the word) while having 0 features.
It's also not customizable for shit beside putting a bunch of widgets in your panel, and rock solid is the last phrase that could possible describe xfce.

It's true that it can look decent, however.

The only things you should miss are the start menu (which has an integrated search, while mate's doesn't), but if you use arch this won't be a problem (the arch version comes with a patched menu that has all the bells and whistles), and the widgets (mate's widgets pale in comparison).
Every single thing else, mate does better.

>> No.56972374

This is the type of random shit we need on /g/. I'm not even being sarcastic, this was this best reply I've seen in a long while.

>> No.56972386

Unity is Goat. Can't use anything less now.

>> No.56972406

Just tint2

>> No.56972409

Install Weston.

>> No.56972416

No, it's a general purpose OS meant to be used both on phones and on PCs. It is suspected to be the experimental, linux-free version of andromeda.

>> No.56972539

>windows 8 borders
>in kde
>being this fucking gay

I heard drinking drain cleaner is fun.
Look how it turned out for this dumb nigger:

>> No.56972571
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>it's not even as good as windows 95.

okay that's a little much t b q h f a m

>> No.56972575

I hate apple but they have a good system

>> No.56972602


>> No.56972627

have you tried restarting your computer?

>> No.56973018

linux users are just retards who switched because windows is too hard for them, I knew it.

>> No.56973077

GNOME 3 and the macOS DE are brilliant. Two best environments ever by far.

>> No.56973096
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God I fucken hate Gnome. Gnome is a bigger meme than Linux itself.

>> No.56973184

Woah, that's actually really nice.

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woot woot

>> No.56973555

There is literally nothing heavier than i3 worth using. DEs are pure garbage.

>> No.56973611

>logged into chromium
Jesus fucking Christ Evan, I would've thought you were memeing if there wasn't so many bookmarks.

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XFCE is fairly good. If by outdated you mean it looks like an actual desktop environment rather than something designed for a tablet computer, I don't consider that a negative.

>> No.56974271

gib theme names pls

are they on xfce-look or something else?

>> No.56974319

please example a lightweight DE then

>> No.56974347

Yeah but you are ugly and virgin

>> No.56974362

Who /unity/ here?

>> No.56974446

Mate would be an obvious best choice for a windows-like/gnome2-like de, but the caja filemanager locks up on huge file operations. If you don't mind using another program for file operations involving large or multitudinous files, it's otherwise a nice, sane, usable, reliable de. BTW, it's hideously ugly by default, but easy to make attractive in five minutes of noodling.

>> No.56974473

>uses less resources than xfce
>has more utilities than kde

>> No.56974569

Reporting in. Hands down most comfy DE out there

>> No.56975076

If you like crashes and bugs in general that is.

>> No.56975237

Why are you using nemo when dolphin is god tier? It's the only reason I haven't abandoned KDE. Also, breeze-gtk and kde-gtk-config to fix gtk apps looking like Windows 95.

>> No.56975389

>le may may
Unity has been solid on LTS for years memer.

>> No.56975526


>> No.56975754

I just installed dolphin and its seems pretty good so far, it doesnt display image previews though. Im sure theres a setting somewhere.

>breeze-gtk and kde-gtk-config
Says they are allready installed. I have breeze dark set as the theme, idk if thats what this is. What do I need to do to "activate" whatever these packages are?

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use it mang. it's pretty great

>> No.56976025

More functional than Gnome, but is a fucking mess.

Good, but a bit outdated.

Looks good, but you need to add back stuff they removed to make functional again.

Looks good and is functional enough.

It's shit.

>> No.56976055


too bad there's no desktop environment that is like windows 8.1
i like the windows 8.1 start menu.

>> No.56976069

Looks nice, but is buggy and rather unstable, also really resource hungry

Haven't really tried it but it looks ugly

Bretty stable. With a few extensions it's comfy as fuck and not ugly.

Buggy and a tad ugly

Pretty but a heaping pile of shit. Also attached to Ubuntu which is ebola-infected black-red feces.

install gnome

>> No.56976075

i use gnome classic. it's similar to mate

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forgot image

>> No.56976095

Seconded. I like the start menu.

>> No.56976151

i would like open box if i didn't have to use the terminal to open shit

>> No.56976180

All DEs suck, so just get used to what's the best supported on your favorite distro. For me that's gnome. For most newbies it's unity. Doesn't fucking matter.

>> No.56976181 [DELETED] 

ubuntu doesn't work so well with nvidia graphic cards. you will experience annoying screen tearing if you use on ubuntu on a computer with a nvidia graphics card. i wasn't able to fix it

>> No.56976220

gnome classic is better than regular gnome

mate is also good

The only DEs i fuck with

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>> No.56977347

Openbox is ok for a GUI that's flexible although not automated like a tiling window manager. You could just uninstall all the stuff you don't want that comes with the GUI packages.


>> No.56977357

>not understanding he was insulting Windows with a meme that is actually a reality on Windows
>shit just happens

>> No.56977372

No it won't, also, works for me, don't use shit distros.

>> No.56977396

You should make that steam icon bigger, i almost cant see it.

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I use i3 on my desktop, cinnamon on my laptop. Shit works pretty good.

>> No.56977420

>So apparently /g/ just doesn't want anyone to use computers.

This should of been the /g/ banner.

>> No.56977466

It is terrible because we more or as much people who wants to add features as people who wants to fix them.

Take KDE.
That project is heading in so many directions you cannot possibly fix all the bugs. Ever.
It is not enough structured to get there.
You have widgets which had so many ways of being displayed with KDE 4 that they couldn't get them to update correctly and decided to make all that more simple in plasma 5. Now they are unusable.
Oh, and the language changed, so now people have to write new widgets, which means it will take years before KDE has widgets again if ever.
And the new widgets doesn't even work properly. I have two monitors on my desktop and the panel sometimes moves when I boot.
And when you look into why, then you realize that the design is so broken and so many things have to go right for it to actually work.
They even have a splash screen that ads a 4 second delay on login so they can fix stuff without the user noticing glitches.

Maybe things like that could be fixed, but they need a hard feature freeze and then have people work on the issues, but that is not as glamorous or fun.
And that is the problem.
People contribute because it is fun.
Not because companies have issues that needs to be addressed.

>> No.56977581

You got swindled by a jew

>> No.56977614

>Using bloated as an argument

Maybe it's time for you to upgrade from your 2006 laptop

>> No.56977655

You could have burned a bootable disc on your own computer. I hope you're trolling and not this stupid. It's not stupid to buy a copy, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that it's stupid you didn't know you could just burn your own cd. Makes me wonder why the hell you would even want to install Linux if you didn't know this basic fact.

>> No.56977659

When I installed GNOME and just used it, I realized they'd designed their retarded workflow around my own retarded workflow. One maximized window per workspace (maybe two, half a screen each) with window management handled entirely by switching between those workspaces. Then there's the obsession with applications that use headerbars. Pretty much every single one of them is shit when compared with their predecessor, but I get what they're doing.

>> No.56977693

It doesnt matter if they are tagged properly

>> No.56977736

>Largest Anime Daki...

>> No.56977761


Yes, KDE is buggy and bloated, also Cinnamon is shit and Unity pure autism.

However, Mate and Xfce are highly customizable and comfy as fuck DE's which just werk. Inb4 “outdated“ meme. If you are an eye candy loving faggot get a mac or if you're poor install elementary os.

>> No.56977861

>Unity pure autism
I don't much care for unity, but what?

>> No.56978310

Prove it.

>> No.56978338

>Gnome shill confirmed
Gnome is shit ever since RedHat got niggers
and kikes working on 3.0 and made Gnome
systemd dependent. Nobody so far has said
anything positive about the new Gnome.

>> No.56978843

Mate is pure perfection.

>> No.56979036

He's mad because he has no eye for good design. Also known as autism.

>> No.56979048

Gnome 3 is objectively the best DE in the world except maybe the macOS DE.

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until he presses the windows key amiritegais

>> No.56979138

Does your IRC name happen to be dan?

>> No.56979206


>> No.56979322

>cuckid for everything and iretard apps

>nvidia drivers
black screen. every. single. time. cant get it to run without breaking x, yet

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>Why is every single desktop environment terrible?

Get on my level pleb

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>needing a DM

This my entire DE with dwm. Literally less than 20 lines of bash.
#! /bin/bash

# Enable Gpg Agent
eval $(/usr/bin/killall gpg-agent; /usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon)

# Enable lock timer
xautolock -time 5 -locker slock &

# Enable status bar
slstatus &

# Restore wallpaper
nitrogen --restore &

# Enable notification daemon
dunst -config "~/.config/dunst/dunstrc" &

# map caps lock to escape
setxkbmap -option caps:escape &

#remind -z -k'notify-send %s &' ~/.reminders/planner.rem &
#(remind -h -z -k'notify-send -u critical "Reminder" %s && mpv --really-quiet ~/Documents/mind.mp3 &' ~/.reminders/local.rem & ) > /dev/null 2>&1

# enable screen filter for night posting
redshift -l 43.65:-79.38 -b 0.75 &

# connect to external if available
homescreen.sh &

exec dwm

I run ifconfig and iwlist and connect using the command line

>> No.56980737

Sounds like a pain in the ass.

>> No.56980761

It was, setting it up and piecing together software was the hard part.

but once you have a stable custom DE, you rarely need to write anything else and you're set with a lightweight DE.

>> No.56980847

Because they all try to be windows, like they're not being made for a software ecosystem that has nearly 50 years of shit in it

>GNOME specific messenger
>GNOME specific browser
>GNOME specific mail client
>GNOME specific calendar
>GNOME specific terminal
>GNOME specific text editor

>> No.56980964

I know it's cool to rip on Unity. I know it limits some of your options. Other than that, I will contend that it is a perfectly fine desktop environment.

Unity was ass in 10.04. Since 12.04, not even once have I had Unity shit the bed on me. No configuration fuckups, no annoying undocumented behavior, no egregious bugs, maintained by people whose lives depend on it, etc. I do most of my work in a terminal, anyway.

Yes, many of us have outgrown it. That doesn't mean it is patently bad. I recommend anybody that is interested in Linux to use the latest LTS release with Unity only and have yet to find anybody disappointed with it in comparison to Windows. Short of tiling window managers, I can't think of a DE more solid than Unity.

>> No.56981047

>"I do most of my work in a terminal"
t. everyone who can tolerate a linux DE

>> No.56981261

Nothing wrong with a cohesive set of utilities.

>> No.56981278

GNOME 3 is better but yeah Unity is fine.

>> No.56981353


SGI's 4DWm with Toolchest. Sadly I don't have a picture...

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