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/mkg/ - Nature edition

>Buyer's template:
>Where to Buy:
>Use buyers template
>Keyset wiki

>> No.56291307
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how are pic related compatible with wire stabilizers? where do the wires go?

>> No.56291340

What is the best layout for me it's hhkb the extra space at the bottom is really excellent design

>> No.56291342

>where do the wires go?
The inserts go in the outermost posts, usually.

>> No.56291344
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when will the orion v3 come out?

>> No.56291352

when you stop being gay

>> No.56291404
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>> No.56291426
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>stop being gay
hahahaha good one anon

>> No.56291434

Awful layout desu

>> No.56291469
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Too bad its my favorite.

>> No.56291484

too bad it's the same as every other 60% keyboard

>> No.56291506

ohhhhhh so it's not just the wire, the wire has a piece on each end which is like a stem

>> No.56291515


>> No.56291527
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>mom I want a unique board to show off on 4chin

>> No.56291559

>Mom I want an expensive keyboard with no features that I could get cheaper by buying the same keyboard just from another company

>> No.56291594
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Its like you think I didnt evaluate my options and choose what I liked... Sometimes you spend more on things you like. Please worry about your own spending habits. Also remind you I only have two boards compared to some of these niggas collections.

>> No.56291901

>"only" two boards
>comparing yourself to the worst neckbeards in the world

>> No.56292052

Are the IBM model M with track points worth anything? Someone is selling two of them, one black the other beige. I'm thinking of getting both

>> No.56292071

It is just a hobby not everyone here is autistic. Just waste money on random upgrades like anyother.

>> No.56292171
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>worst neckbeards in the world
I don't even have a neckbeard though

>> No.56292482

from previous thread

max € 200
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Brown, want it quite
German Layout
>Form factor
RGB would be great
>Previous/current keyboards
None really worth mentioning

>> No.56292490

jump off a bridge

>> No.56292513

If you want a quite tactile switch why not get a topre or their clone equivalent

>> No.56292521

calm down bro

>> No.56292528

>quite switch


>> No.56292619


>> No.56292813


>> No.56292870
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Serious question thanks for every reply.

I'm currently using the picture related and to be honest, I really like it.
Now it's feeling it's years and I'd like a replacement. Maybe a mechanical, but I cannot seem to find anything close to it.

Any suggestion? Thanks.

>> No.56292887

what do you like?

>> No.56292933

probably some ergonomic split keyboard

>> No.56292945

What do you think about the ergodox infinity?

>> No.56293019

Well if you want an ergonomic mechanical keyboard you can try out maltron keyboards. They are very price however

>> No.56293039

are rows numbered R1 R1 R2 R3 R4 R4 bottom-up or top-down? the most common seems to be bottom-up but i've seen top-down twice.

are the top two rows always the same in terms of "staggering" (in cherry profile)? are the bottom two rows always the same?

>> No.56293082


Nah too elaborate. The M$ natural is a perfect compromise between a normal straight keyboard that I use at work and this that is my daily home driver. A bit large, but very usable.
Thanks for the suggestions but those are literally another kind of hardware.

>> No.56293125
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how about something like this?

>> No.56293161

that thing is pure sex

>> No.56293194
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Best that I can come up with is this

>> No.56293204
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>tfw fell for Cherry meme
>after about a year of intense abuse Browns became disgustingly mushy and lost basically all of their already weak tactility and turned into fucking reds
Are Topres any better?

>> No.56293272

Lol just buy a tactile rubber dome instead

>> No.56293300

shame its $400+ for a shitty mx board

>> No.56293360

get model F if you don't mind noise, great tactility and they don't wear out after 30+ years of use

>> No.56293578

Matias ergo pro

>> No.56293668

had my hhkb for 2 years and felt just as good as when it was brand new
i now have a type s tho

>> No.56294243


Wait what? I though Cherry MX switches were the gold standard for mechanical key switches but now I see people calling them a meme and saying they suck.

If Cherry MX switches are no good what should I get instead?

>> No.56294269

They're the consumer standard, not the gold standard.

>> No.56294290

they're about the best you can get, the only real alternatives (besides cherry mx clones which are about the same or worse) are topre and buckling springs and those have their drawbacks too, it comes down to personal preference

>> No.56294341

they're not a bad switch, but they are far away from the gold standard. Because cherry is so large they do have better quality control than others. If you want a cherry style switch then go with gaterons since they are better

>> No.56294362

Right, they're a standard "decent" quality mechanical switch in a sea of cost-cutting rubber junk.

That, and browns are some of the weakest tactile switches around. I think a lot of the hate is from people expecting a clear or model F level of tactility and getting dirty mush.

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>> No.56294401

>they're about the best you can get
Nice try shill
Alps, Beams, Omrons, Buckling, and Mitsumi's are better then cherry switches.
Heck even cherry clones have become better then cherrys own offering

>> No.56294484

lol you're literally being a smug hipster, just because cherry is too "mainstream" you feel the need to rationalize why you can't use them

>> No.56294525

I use cherry switches too but don't pretend they are the best

>> No.56294544

>they're about the best you can get
>they're ABOUT the best you can get
i'm not saying they're THE best, but you can't get much better than them, and it depends on your personal preference

>> No.56294586

Thanks will look into it, seems a reasonable design. I'm in yuro too, hope is available if I decide to buy it

>> No.56294626

>but you can't get much better than them
yes you can
Do you know how many mechanical keyboard switches there are?

>> No.56294663

if there are switches that are objectively much better in every way then those would be the mainstream. cherry mx and its clones is the market leader for a reason.

>> No.56294679


>> No.56294681

not really, the reasons are momentum and success as a business value.

those have nothing to do with actual quality, just means "they're profitable and well-known"

>> No.56294701

So I guess Toyota makes the best cars then. All those other car manufactures just don't have what it takes

>> No.56294705

and let's be honest here, cherry switches are nowhere near mainstream in 2016. rubber domes and scissor switches are shipped with 95% of desktops/laptops sold.

>> No.56294722


Rofl no. Mainstream switches are now defined by GAYMMEERRRR brands. So we get Cherry, Romer-G, and rebranded Kailh.

Yeah you can get boards with Gat or Matias but they're mostly boards like 60% and plebs freak the fuck out if their keyboard doesn't have 104 or more keys.

>> No.56294731

all the major gaming keyboard manufacturers use cherry or cherry clone switches

>> No.56294737
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Homo caps finally came in.

Everyone keeps telling me they look gay. ;__;

>> No.56294743


I like the Hana set but I might be gay

>> No.56294750

which are like a tenth of a percent of all keyboard sales in 2016

>> No.56294806

Guys there are over 300 different mechanical switches.
So take your pick on which is your favorite

>> No.56294813


>> No.56295077

>looking around for mechs
>get hhkb because fuck you poorfags
>holy fuck, this feels amazing
>realize i started at the endgame and cant spend thousands eventually working my way up to a hhkb
Being rich is truly suffering

>> No.56295131
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>i started at the endgame
No you can go even higher

>> No.56295155

the layout is too small tho

>> No.56295189

yea but those are just overpriced membrane buckling springs, like industrial ms

at least kishsavers and beam springs have better switches for the ridiculous costs

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>> No.56295888

You've got too many different colors going on there, and it doesn't work with the color of your case either.

Paint your case white and stick to two colors for the keycaps.

>> No.56295896

As long as you like them who cares what others say anon

>> No.56296072


You wish. That's like reaching level 2 of 10. Oh well.

>> No.56296112

>paying $300 for literally slider over dome with a proprietary switch stem

>> No.56296124
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>buying when the yen is high
nigga please

>> No.56296173

hhkb isn't good and there's a lot of articles on the net detailing why
go google some

>> No.56296183

>trying to use objective matters to define to quality of a subjective feel

>> No.56296191

HHKB is designed for "hackers," "programmers," et-cetera.

yet, the layout and build quality falls short in a lot of aspects that should cater, not oppose the style of typing fitted to people working with scripts/sysadmin/programming

>> No.56296244

I have no idea how it feels to type on such a thing but that build is really really nice

>> No.56296423

this, 75% is like the bare minimum without compromising in productivity/comfortability

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posting the best

>> No.56296771
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Only best keyboards allowed.

>> No.56296818

this pic is a joke right? or you can't afford a pc and a better mouse and mouse pad because you spent all your NEETbucks on the keyboard?

>> No.56297014

only as big a joke as your dad

>> No.56297107

he's a pretty big joke actually he thinks he knows stocks better than me but i have amazing returns year after year yet he keeps whining about my investment decisions

>> No.56297230
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>gateron blacks
>POM keycaps

When I saw this thing on UK amazon, I bought it almost instantly, since a keyboard with this combination of features will probably never be available in yurope again.

I like it a lot.

Now you can tell me how retarded I am.

>> No.56297408

What board is that senpai?

>> No.56297415
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No Industrial Model M's or 4704 Model F's? You're still at the bottom, I've had dome with sliders that felt better than your topre shit.

>> No.56297462

noppoo choc mini

>> No.56297485

that's great, i went for the rgb version because i just didn't want to give up the lights

i'm pretty sure the white keycaps are PBT though? amazon doesn't seem to care about dodgy product descriptions or maybe the description meant that the black ones are POM and the white ones are PBT. but either way PBT is great too


>> No.56297599
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Noppoo box with a cringey FAQ says keycaps are POM, and I doubt that someone would go as far as mislabel that. I don't really care as long as they are not ABS, and they don't feel like ABS to me. Those keycaps are also fucking thicc, which is welcome.

I myself hate the whole concept of keyboard backlight, so not having that is a plus for me.

>> No.56297705

that's interesting. care to post a close up of the legend?

>> No.56297709
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While were on the subject
yay or nay?

>> No.56297722

if you know what you're getting with browns and that's what you want, then yay

>> No.56297731
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Close enough?

>> No.56297739

Ideally I want a tactile grey switch but cherry doesn't make those anymore

>> No.56297748

what's wrong with clears?

>> No.56297754

those look like PBT caps

>> No.56297757

that'll do, thanks

>> No.56297781

Why noppoo switches for $95 when there's the same thing with gateron browns for $74?


>> No.56297790

the heavier actuation force is what I like about greys

>> No.56297826

i think that one is more likely to be the older version with a less compatible bottom row, i would ask the seller to make sure before buying it

>> No.56297855

actually ask the other seller too if you want to be 100% sure of which one you're getting

>> No.56297923

but i'm pretty sure the one with noppoo switches is new

>> No.56297984

Well, if images are correct, noppoo one is 1.5u|1u|1.5u|5.5u|1u||1.5u|1u|1u|1u, while gateron one is 1.25u*6, 5.5u, 1u*3.

>> No.56298126

the images are inconsistent on the gateron one, look through the other images. i would ask the seller if it's the 1.25u*6 before buying the gateron one just for the peace of mind.

the one with noppoo switches might have outdated images (the item can change over time on the same page on amazon) but you could ask that seller too to make sure.

>I was going to buy the noppoo choc mini from amazon but apparently these new ones use a noppoo switch instead of the cherry mx. Has anyone tried one of these keyboards with the noppoo switch?
>Sun, 13 December 2015, 11:50:58 »
>these new ones

>> No.56298205
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This, full blue modifiers, or just red metas? Keyset will be the Vortex one with PMK blanks.

>> No.56298315

maybe red alts? and all blue or grey for the other bottom row modifiers

>> No.56298354
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The Clueboard guy said on leddit that he has a couple metal prototypes on their way and might run it through massdrop once it's finalized, pic related

>> No.56298384

how long do i have to wait until i can get a preonic or planck?

>> No.56298418

I was thinking of using that plasti-dip stuff for the case.

I'll see about changing up the colours. I enjoy that green too much.

>> No.56298542

under 200 usd
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
>Form factor
>Previous/current keyboards
daskeyboard 3 and 4, cm storm quickfire

id like to be able to put some other caps on it as well as time goes on

>> No.56298591

How about masterkey pro s? Seems to fit all criteria. Layout is completely standard, so any keycap set you'll find will fit.

>> No.56298642


That looks great! I think that's every feature that I wanted. I appreciate it.

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>> No.56298812

i like the bottom one with blue modifiers and red alts but it's your choice

>> No.56298869

Did they ever make an entire keyboard with tactile greys? I thought that shit was reserved for space bars in boards with clears.

>> No.56298886

Is it really worth it considering we have the existing aluminum case? Is the only difference going to be that edging?

>> No.56298973
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Cherry still makes cherry mx grey switches but only for OEMs

>> No.56298983

So "no", then.

>> No.56299011

What's that meme chink board that has knockoff blues that is like $30?

>> No.56299018

I have a whitefox that i need to solder. reccomend a soldering iron that i can use once and not care about

>> No.56299020

get heavier springs?

>> No.56299021

you can buy the switches if you want. Its $55 for 110 of them.
And as far as I know only ducky sells keyboards with tactile greys

>> No.56299064

might as well just buy grey switches while im at it

>> No.56299109

I've bought greys before. You don't need to tell me.

>> No.56299178

I travel constantly for work. Like 20-30 days of the month. What kind of tenkeyless would be ideal? Like not likely to break, no loose connection fitting issues, etc.

>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Cherry Brown, Red
doesn't matter
>Form factor
Don't care
>Previous/current keyboards
Ducky Shine 4
Rosewill BR something something

>> No.56299214

Vortex Pok3r

>> No.56299311
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Get the optical switches
>can be anything tactile/linear/whatever
>the smallest latency of them all, because the metal springback is not an issue for the Light
>no oxidation

>> No.56299334

not sure if shilling or just retarded

>> No.56299363
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>Vortex Pok3r
>80%, Tenkeyless

>> No.56299413



>> No.56299414

ALPS is love, ALPS is life.

>> No.56299749

What can I expect from the MX Clear typing experience coming from 45g Topres?

>> No.56299796

>Preferred switch type
Cherry Red
doesn't matter
>Form factor
>Previous/current keyboards

I'm currently looking at Corsair K65 (the grey one) and Ducky One (black).

>> No.56299817
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harsher tactility, louder, and much, much, much heavier

>> No.56299884


>> No.56300068
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Ducky one, maybe
Mine arrived today and it feels great so far.
There are non-backlit versions available, I suggest going for one with PBT keycaps.

>> No.56300111

>those reviews

>> No.56300174
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certified meme

>> No.56300218

Definitely Ducky One and yes to the PBT keycaps that the other anon said, not only are they more durable, they also feel better because they usually have a nice texture to them.

>> No.56300252

>going for one with PBT keycaps
Doesn't seem like you can choose. Ducky website only says ABS.

>> No.56300267
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Do any of you actually carry around your 60%s?

>> No.56300272

>needing a cpu for a keyboard
>nsa hacks your keyboard

>> No.56300299

>not just buying hhkb mx cherry clone off aliexpress

>> No.56300303
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Used too.

>> No.56300309

all keyboards have a processor/microcontroller

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u wut nigga

I know what I have anon. Also, this is the same keyboard in the OP, if you want to look at it in a prettier fashion.

The texture is quite nice. I hope what anons say is true, and that they don't get glossy. I hate how keys feel after getting shiny.

>> No.56300326

they'll get shiny but it'll take much longer

>> No.56300364
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60% was too big to carry so I switched to a 50%.

>> No.56300367

I also added a towel underneath to isolate the desk noise.

>> No.56300415
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Is it not this one?

>One TKL non-backlit version
>ABS double shot keycaps

Am I looking at the wrong place?

>> No.56300469


Any anons have this board?

>> No.56300494

I think you can get a magicforce 68 for about the same price and it looks more clean.


>> No.56300527
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Oh right, I forgot to mention it.
My keyboard is some sort of weird collaboration between Ducky and Mechanicalkeyboards.com, or a strange offshoot that for some reason was shipped to them. No idea.
Here: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1767
There's also a blue+gray version. This one is featured in their site: https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1759

I was worried about the keyboard too, so I contacted the seller and they confirmed its legitimacy. I also found a small promotional image created by ducky some time ago, but I didn't save it (I had to search for a while, not willing to repeat the process).

So yeah, it's legit. Maybe it's a failed product line that they want to get rid off. I don't know.
The letters on the keys are different from other Ducky Ones, it's more "standard". And they used Dye Sublimation instead of Double Shot, and the ink is green.

But it feels pretty good to my hands, so I recommend it.

Good for you.
Your keyboard still looks stupid.

>> No.56300547

Oh shit, that's much more easy on the eyes.

I've got a full size keyboard but I've been entertaining the idea of trying out a smaller board. Don't want to spend too much money on something that I might not like.

>> No.56300589

It's a really nice keyboard for how cheap it is, it is higher build quality than most 40 dollar keyboards.

>> No.56300755

Fuck I can't find it in the UK, lad. Looks like I'll have to settle for the ABS double shot one. The price looks pretty much the same too dammit.

>> No.56300776

Can't you ship it from that site?
Taxes are not kind to imports in my country, but I think it was worth it.
If they are too much, look at varmillo. They use PBT too, but mind that their keyboards tend to be pingy. if that doesn't bother you, try with them.

>> No.56301018

On top of the added expense, I'm moving to a different country soon, so international shipping might take too long. About the texture I'm not too bothered, actually, because I wear gloves most of the time nowadays. (vitamin deficiency making my hands crack) Varmillo seems really hard to find but thanks for the recommendation m8. I'll probably just get Ducky one.

>> No.56301100

Good luck then, anon.

>> No.56301251

any good 75% boards where the stabilized keys don't sound awful? it's kind of a metal clank sound.

i can hear it on both keycool 84 and mk 84. all the stabilized keys just sound awful. it's so jarring in contrast to the non stabilized keys that it completely ruins it for me. way worse than any standard rubber dome keyboard.

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Opinions on Cooler Master Quick Fire Si?

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>> No.56301552

can you even buy that anywhere? i can't find anyone selling it

>> No.56301569

There's a newer model with RGB, in both full and TKL configurations. Consider getting that.
If I'm right, that model is no longer available.

>> No.56301581


Ah, the Masterkey Pro S?

>> No.56301598

Yeah, that one.
I've only seen it once, with reds. The reviews say it's well built, and that you can configure the lights with or without software.

Personally, I don't like RGB, but if you want a coolermaster, that might be a good buy. Investigate a bit, and if it looks right, go for it.

>> No.56301618


Seems like a good buy. I want PBT keycaps with transparent sideprinting, so I'll have to look around for them. That'll be exactly what I'm looking for.

>> No.56301642

For those buying a WASD Code keyboard, make sure to check the costar stabilizer wire. Mine came with cheap thin ones that bent way too easily. Ended up buying replacements from their website and are way better.

>> No.56301695
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>I want PBT keycaps with transparent sideprinting
Good luck with that.

>> No.56301720


Yeah, they don't exist :(

>> No.56301757

Deck makes keyboards with Double Shot PBT Keycaps, which are pretty close to what you want.
But the use the ugliest motherfucking font on the planet.
Shame, their products seem to be good, but I wouldn't buy one ever.
Oh, and their keycap puller is made of steel, and it fucks up the keys when you pull them out.

they need to rethink a lot on their objectives.

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Holy shit. Why?

Does anyone make sideprinted non-transparent PBT keycaps in BLACK? I can find them in almost every single other color but black.

>> No.56301794

How fast do the legends on the Pok3r PBT fade out? I was looking at some pictures of ones that had some use and they looked nasty.

>> No.56301854
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weeks, if you're lucky

>> No.56302122

Those faded Bank Gothic legends remind me too much of my old Das. No thanks

>> No.56302130

I told you that they were retarded.
I don't know who else does.
I think one of the links in the OP stated a company that made them, though.

>> No.56302261

They're bad enough in plastic. Why did they think that was a good idea? Why not just stick with wire?


>> No.56302418

>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
only ever typed on blues, like the clicky noise, could go heavier
>Form factor
not important
>Previous/current keyboards
fucking laptop keyboard

never really had mechanical keyboard besides some really old dtk more than 10 years ago. back then i didn't even knew what mechanical keyboard is, all i remember is the joy of pushing the space button
das keyboard and cm are pretty easy to get around here. what do you guys recommend?

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>> No.56303163


>> No.56303326

Does Vortex still make sideprinted PBT sets (similar to the vanilla set on the pok3r)? If yes, where can I find them?

>> No.56303343

This is where I bought my set

>> No.56303885
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So mkg, I've got a CODE w/greens.

I started playing Skyrim and I actually kinda noticed some input lag I guess when playing, like 1/3 of a second abouts.

Apparetly the CODE has 125hz polling rate instead of 1000. Would that be causing this delay or would it be a factor of that/monitor/motherboard/usb?

Not really impressed and considering getting another board desu.

>> No.56303896


>> No.56304095

They actually do, but I got mine from Taobao so I don't think you an get those in the states

>> No.56304493

Anyone has experience with ergonomic keyboards?
Does the curve help? Or splitting the keyboard into half is enough?

I'm in Germany, they don't sell kinesis etc. Most likely will go diy. Collecting info right now.

>> No.56304901

what's wrong with browns

>> No.56304943
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Weakest tactility, once you start typing on them at any decent pace they'll start feeling like reds with dirt stuck in the middle.

>> No.56305053

Is there any keyboards that are just macrokeys(kind of like a num pad but with custom keys?)

>> No.56305180

>gaymur faggot thinks he can tell a 7 millisecond difference

It's probably because you enabled V-sync. Also, you need to be at least 18 to post on this website.

>> No.56305253

What would you recommend then for someone that likes keys with tactile feedback? Been using reds for the past 2 years and something clickier might be nice.

>> No.56305283

Clears, blues or greens.

There's also whites and tactile gray, but those may a bit more difficult to find.

If you don't mind leaving the mx spectrum of switches, there's matias switches and buckling spring, not to mention various alps switches and other vintage switches that you probably won't find anywhere.

>> No.56305310

have to agree, went from blue to brown without testing and I don't like it very much

>> No.56305316

My biggest worry about non-mx switches is the big issue of QC. Sure they might be awesome but if one or two keys are slightly off then I don't care how great they are. Seems to be the case with the less popular ones that are manufactured in smaller quantities.

>> No.56305961

If you dye the hhkb white printed caps will the lettering keep?

Is my best bet just going non printed?

>> No.56306041

why not buy blank key caps, unless you want an awful typing experience then go ahead and paint them

>> No.56306079

Because I am a retard and still haven't learned the hhkb layout

>> No.56306115

When I switched layouts it took me less then a week to get used to it. As long as you don't switch keyboards often you should be fine

>> No.56306166
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Who /cic/ Clickin' in Class next week?

Cherry MX Blues.

>> No.56306206
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Nice board, but I prefer something more tactile which is why I bring my Omron amber board with me to type on.
I really like to hammer those keys xD

>> No.56306528

i haven't read complaints about this about the noppoo choc mini 84, mine should arrive next week so i can tell you then if i remember or if you remind me, or you can look at videos of people typing on it

>> No.56306632
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Mmmm sunday.

>> No.56306634

Newbie looking for suggestions here
Money is not an issue.
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
I don't know to be honest since no prior experience of mechs but judging by descriptions online cherry blues would be cool.
Don't care as long as i have muh ä's and ö's in there.
>Form factor
Since i am yet to find a keyboard with orange backlighting i'm going to go with RGB.
>Previous/current keyboards
Some microsoft ergonomic piece of shit. i absolutely hate the shape above all else, and some keys don't work properly anymore.

>> No.56306663

I hope your classmates rise up and kill you.

>> No.56306676

the 125 Hz polling rate increases the latency, but the main concern is the keyboard itself, the microcontroller has to scan all the keys and put together messages to send over USB, a lot of USB keyboards have 20ms latency or more which is a perceptible amount of latency (and latency is additive, it "stacks", so having more latency anywhere is not a good thing). if your keyboard supports passive USB to PS/2 adapters and your motherboard has a PS/2 port you could try that, it's only a few bucks for an adapter.

>> No.56306772

the debounce filter could also add latency

>> No.56306797

>Since i am yet to find a keyboard with orange back lighting

Ducky makes keyboards with orange back lighting

>> No.56306873
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if i go to japan, where do i find all the dank keyboards to buy?

>> No.56306885

At hobby stores

>> No.56306894

How do you people keep getting baited like this?

>> No.56306926

>reverse lookup
>2014 reddit post
of course it was a redditor

>> No.56306948
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wait you mean you don't bring your mechanical keyboard to class?

>> No.56306967

That keyboard looks awful to type on
how do you input numbers?

>> No.56306973


>> No.56307019


>> No.56307038

>Has enough space for arrow keys
>not enough for numbers

>> No.56307106
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b..but layers!

>> No.56307180

it doesn't look too bad to type on tbqh, could be decent for a portable keyboard, but i question the utility of saving 1 or 2 rows of keys

>> No.56307228

>fully programmable pcb
the entire keyboard could be numbers if you wanted

stop yer bitchin anon

>> No.56307761

>shit backspace
like I get that it's trying to be compact and useful, but it's falling short senpai.

>> No.56307852
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Can anyone point me in the direction of some black, blank ISO-UK PBT keycaps (TKL)? Can't seem to find any without paying stupid import and shipping fees.

>> No.56307881

Unicomp EnduraPro y/n?

>> No.56307908

out of stock for now but its worth bookmarking i guess

>> No.56307930

dental bands vs landing pads?

>> No.56307943

y not both

>> No.56307964

I've never thought about that, but do they stack or does it equal out the suppression of sound

>> No.56307986

no idea. i like my shit loud and clicky.

>> No.56307994

I guess if you want a trackpoint then go for it.
But you can buy old IBM m13 for 40-60 bucks

>> No.56308018

For what?

>> No.56308043

Topre, but I'd like to know the difference between landing pads and dental bands in general

>> No.56308046

i dont see why one would buy used keyboards, the keys would be all slippery especially with old keyboards

>> No.56308076

Older IBMs have much better build quality then unicomp and the slippery keys isn't an issue since IBM used dye-sub bpt caps. I've got three old ibms and none of them have slippery caps

>> No.56308094

You can iron landing pads to be very flat and thus only imperceptibly change key travel. Dental bands are thicker and noticeably change the travel. No one uses dental bands anymore unless they're dumb.

Of course you could just pay for the rings if you're so inclined (I assume they're still in stock on ebay).

>> No.56308161


The problem with older model ms isn't the keycaps, it's the plastic rivets they used to hold the internal assembly together.

Unless it's a really cheap find, I'd stick with a new unicomp or a model f xt/at. Those don't have any issues and wear like iron.

>> No.56308525

how much will a functional model M be worth in 10+ years?

>> No.56308549

depends how hard the meme goes
its all a fashion trend

>> No.56308874

I have a 22 year old model M, which I bought a few years ago. They are not expensive, and I doubt they ever will. Keep in mind that Unicomp still makes very similar keyboards.

There are some rarer old mechanical keyboards, however (including by IBM).

>> No.56309005

I'm using those caps in >>56306632 berry nice set.

>> No.56309119

I'll keep an eye on them. Thanks!

>> No.56309158

Why is the HHKB layout so shit? Did they intentionally try to make it as annoying as possible?

>> No.56309178

It's the perfect layout faggot

>> No.56309202


Please tell me from where? Can you find that link?

>> No.56309214

I hear so many people say that, but never back it up. You're saying that control on caps is bad? that backspace on \ is bad? have you even tried it?

>> No.56309383
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SA Chocolatier or DSA Royal Navy? On a white TKL board. Forgive the shitty renders.

>> No.56309404


>> No.56309438

Yeeeee I have a Royal Navy set coming!


>> No.56309465

Whey are all these custom keycaps 60% or TKL only.
I can never find a nice set that includes the numpad in the price. They always either charge between half the cost to the same price as the set just for 17 extra keys

>> No.56309485


>> No.56309523

The royal navy set has addons for pretty much all keyboards.

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>> No.56309535

is gamdias any good?
i want a mechanical keyboard and they're on sale at a place so i could get one cheaper than i could usually get any mechanical keyboard.

>> No.56309546

Dunno, ask Zambu. I'm not sure if they are or aren't, I just read the GH page and bought in. The render is pulled from the github. I hope they are, HHKB doesn't see much love. He's a massive faggot if it's just for a render.

Got chocos on order, but they were like £120, compared to £70 if I cancel and buy some Navys. Very tempted.

They split up nearly all GBs for a greater chance of success. They'll never include numpad for the same reason they don't include mods, ISO, HUNT homing etc, there's just not enough demand to rope them all in together for a reasonable price.

>> No.56309565


>> No.56309576

Here's a thought I've just had:

GBs like this sometimes appreciate after the drop. Should I get both then see what I can sell the chocos on if I decide to go with Navys?

>> No.56309583


>> No.56309589

>They split up nearly all GBs for a greater chance of success
I get that but spending 40 bucks for a numpad when a TKL set costs 60 is just too overpriced

>> No.56309616

Bought a pok3r rgb from mechanicalkeyboards.com, and they said free shipping, but I ended up paying 30$ shipping, what gives? Did I just get hoodwinked?

I am in Canada btw.

>> No.56309627

The royal navies are abs and not pbt, just bare that in mind.

>> No.56309648

So are the Chocolatiers.

It's a shame really, can't find any nice PBTs with good availability in the UK, and these type of GBs tend not to go for PBT.

>> No.56309666


Email and ask what's up. they're usually okay with support.

>> No.56309668

Holy balls, £120 for an abs set. Sigh.

>> No.56309679

>no arrow keys
>no function row
>no pgup/pgdn
it's a bit too minimalist for my taste, especially if you don't need it to be portable you can afford to have an extra row of keys

>You're saying that control on caps is bad? that backspace on \ is bad?
those are good

>> No.56309712

I never use arrow keys, nor do I use the function row and pgup/pgdown

>> No.56309720

because you don't have them

>> No.56309733

Even on my full keyboard I rarely use this

>> No.56309749


on my 80% keyboard, I use page up and down for volume control, everything else past the enter key is useless

>> No.56309760

i take it you're not a programmer then?

do you use your mouse to move your text cursor or what?

>> No.56309769

no I use backspace

>> No.56309780

arrows are literally function and jkl; don't have to move my wrists from where they sit. functions are number row and pg up and dn are ./ and again, never moving my wrists.

that being said, i really don't use functions or pg up/dn. And I will say I did get it for the portability, but I went and got on the infinity board that has the same layout for home because going from the hhkb to a tkl really fucked me up. I had to stop what I was doing to look down and move to the arrow keys or use the function row.

>> No.56309806

So Ducky One TKL PBT is surprisingly hard to find.
Any real reason to get the Dye-sub PBT keys?

>> No.56309835

Where 2 buy some good Japanese keycaps?

>> No.56309883

>not using hjkl

>> No.56309896

if you press the function key and [;'/ it turns into arrow keys anon
they're pretty nice and i prefer not moving my hand and using a function layer rather than moving my hand back and forth to use arrow keys
i might as well use my mouse since i can place my mouse where my old arrow keys used to be

>> No.56309955
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Right, so i've decided I hate every cherry switch. Blue and green way too loud, dont like the slideyness or red brown and black. Clears my fav out of them, but bottoming out is too much work.

>Option 1
Wait for a massdrop with ISO Code Keyboard TKL Cherry MX Clears and unsolder everything and swap out springs for something a little bit easier to bottom out with. I've never really done any soldering before except once at school 10 years ago.

>Option 2, just go with a Topre switch and just give up on the backlight.
Between Realforce TLK and Cooler Master Nova Touch. Not sure if I can justify £192 on a keyboard.

>> No.56309986

novatouch is nice, but remember that it'll be louder. maybe try out a typeheaven instead since it's cheaper?

>> No.56310010

45g topre is the god switch
just save yourself the time and buy a novatouch or realforce
buy a novatouch if you feel a deep seated need to replace keycaps or a realforce if you dont

>> No.56310298

where can you buy a novatouch? I thought they were out of stock everywhere and coolermaster wasn't making anymore?

>> No.56310309

£80 - £120
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
Something tactile but not clicky. Maybe MX clear?
Idk? Suggestions?
>Form factor
60% preferably with arrow keys but not essential.
>Previous/current keyboards
Das Keyboard with blues.

>> No.56310324

I don't know maybe buy a kitten?

>> No.56310337

What's this about Cooler Master not making anymore Novatouches?

>> No.56310341

you can buy a barebones one off of their USA website but i dont know of any other place other than second hand

>> No.56310343


next please

>> No.56310349


Honestly considering the price of Realforce, better save some money for a pilgrimage to Akihabara and get one.

>> No.56310383

Why do keys take so long to dry?

Ended up waiting overnight and i think some still had a bit of moisture in them when i put them back on my keyboard. What's the worst that could happen?

>> No.56310385

I've been looking at the Pok3r, but I can't seem to
find it available with clears anywhere.

Also I don't really know shit about replacement caps?

Would I be able to easily get some good ones for the Poker?

>> No.56310406
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I have a rosewill rk-9000 with default caps, and they're starting to get a bit shiny.

Where can I buy some nice PBT keycaps, I live in California.

>> No.56310432

Yeah, as easily as you can for any other cherry switch. If you're in the UK like me then you have ukkeycaps who run a normal store and also host group buys for more limited stuff.

No idea about the clears though. You could just buy all the various bits and bobs, a bag of clear switches and get soldering. DIY.

>> No.56310525

>Ä and ö
So German? Or Swedish? I think Nordic / Swedish would be what you need since they're also your neighbors :)

Also if you're unsure about the switches it may be a good idea to find a store or buy a tester to try them out. Coolermaster makes a tester with mx blue black red green and brown and their purple switch they ship to Europe

>> No.56310580

ye, gaymers really do have a lot of brand loyalty

>> No.56310615

Guys... I'm in dire straits. I love blue switches, but they're very loud, which annoys people I work around. What has a strong physical click without the audible click?

>> No.56310665

That monstrosity looks like a total piece of tryhard shit

>> No.56310694

oooh my god i love it

>> No.56310769

What brand is this? You must tell me now.

>> No.56310812

noppoo choc mini

>> No.56310820

$600, but I would like to stay in the $300 range
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
I like blue's and buckling
I really like the hhkb layout
>Form factor
>Previous/current keyboards
Poseidon Z I found at a pawnshop and a model m

>> No.56310954
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oh no!! now how will i evaluate my self worth???

>> No.56310979

it's awful

>> No.56311015

I'm a CNC machinist with access to highly precise mills and lathes (±.0001"). Would there be any interest in customized keys? I'm thinking of making so me steampunk-esque keys for myself. Something like pic, but maybe simpler, like old school typewriter keys made from brass.

Don't work with plastic or wood, just various metals (4140, aluminum, brass, 1018 etc)

>> No.56311020

if you dont mind ansi us layout, corus-kb should have pok3r in clears. they have an amazon store as well.

>> No.56311043

also forgot to tell, if you're going for replacement caps, get ansi layout. finding replacement caps in iso layout is a nightmare.

>> No.56311174

they're a gaymer brand, but a relatively good brand among gaymers

>> No.56311263

Have new front printed PBT keycaps coming in.
Once they're in, you'll all have a new shitposted keyboard to look at.

>> No.56311842

What is the point of Massdrop?

>> No.56311873


>> No.56311895


Nothing. Enjoy your blues.


Enjoy your hhkb

>> No.56311989

What do you guys think? https://www.amazon.com/TOMOKO-Mechanical-Keyboard-Water-Resistant-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01DBJTZU2

I know! State of the fucking art!

>> No.56312023

Getting chinese shit with even longer times than free chink shipping would take at a higher price, custom keycaps that you can't get anywhere else and occasionally a good deal.

>> No.56312040

I either give them a sharp blow underneath or use a hairdryer on a low setting. The first makes me go light-headed and the second blows keys everywhere if you're not careful, but they get the job done.

>> No.56312655

So from what I've gathered, Cherry MX is a tad on overvalued side of things?

>> No.56312668

Not really, they're just "not the most awesome thing in the world" but are the safest bet if you want consistent quality since Cherry nailed the manufacturing.

>> No.56312692

Yeah I figured they were the safest bet, but all the keyboards I see with them as switches are up there in price while non-cherrys seem a bit more on cheaper side.

>> No.56312693

What do Topre keyboards feel like? I've heard they feel great, but how?

>> No.56312726

Well if you mean Gateron or Kalih switches, they're just Cherry knockoffs, so yeah they're cheaper. Some prefer Gateron's linear switches a little more since those have been improving, but they're both still knockoffs and Kalih is pure garbage avoid/10.

>> No.56312732

gaterons are good according to these guys

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>> No.56312760

Poland has dozens in stock, and they're not too expensive - you can easily find one for ~115 GBP (~135 EUR).

Why 45g over 55g or Variable?

>> No.56312800

New thread: >>56312793

>> No.56312959

tfw want a brown key 80% but no where in CAN carries it for a reasonable price.

fuck this shit, CAN is a piece of shit country that doesn't allow fun

>> No.56313000

If you search these key words: pbt 键帽 透光 (last one is for translucent) you can see a range of stuff. 侧刻 is side print. These are some examples but you can get a wide range if you look for it.


>> No.56313027

how much was shipping? did you buy directly from the seller or through an agent?

>> No.56313049

I have friends in China who travel a few times a year so I do not pay for shipping. But I've asked the price and it ranges from $10-20. If your Chinese is good (or if you really want to try machine translating or hope if they have decent English) you can message them directly for shipping costs. Do not use Taobao's shipping option because it's usually more expensive.

>> No.56313082

my mom knows chinese so she might be able to help. do you know what to search for for cherry profile? i'm looking for a white pbt 1.75u shift key in cherry profile

>> No.56313206

OEM should be the default profile, I'm not sure how to differentiate between Cherry and OEM profile. The others are much rarer so you do not have to worry. You can just try searching in English

>> No.56313832

>they said free shipping
For the US, dummy.

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