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Mechanical Keyboard General
Ortholinear Massdrop Memefest edition
Anyone get a Planck this week?

>> No.55675053

do i need any adapters to put model m caps on a cherry?

>> No.55675066
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>> No.55675160

>>55675053
You would need an adapter and it would make the stems super tall. Not sure where you'd get them.
Best bet is to look for a "pearl and pebble" set

>> No.55675221
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For reasons unknown I thought it to be a good idea to order a CM novatouch ($133) and masterkeys pro L with brown switches ($150) at the same time.
They have yet to arrive, and I'm seriously considering cancelling one of them, question is, which one.
I like the RGB and programmability of the masterkeys, the numpad is not a necessity, but the L was the cheapest version.
The novatouch is by and large the cheapest topre keyboard available in the EU.

Any suggestions?

>> No.55675467

>>55675221
keep novatouch, cancel masterkeys

or just let them both arrive and return the one you don't like?

>> No.55675504

>>55675467
I'm only considering cancelling one to save the shipping (which is $20 bucks, as they want payment for return shipment!).

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>> No.55675625

I've started to look into mechanical keyboards recently. As I understand it a USB keyboards polls the available keys to see if any have been pressed before sending anything to the pc, this limits the number of keys that can be pressed at a time and causes nkro. But a PS/2 does not poll and simply sends an interrupt.

1. Is that about right?

2. is there any difference between a keyboard with native PS/2 and a USB keyboard with an adapter?

3. Are mechanical made with PS/2 plugs or is an adapter my only opotion?

>> No.55675737

I just got a spaceFN layout set up yesterday with GMK, holy crap this is genius. Way easier than having dedicated function keys, especially if you're on a board with two spacebars already.

>> No.55675765

>>55675625
1. Yes
2. No, but your media keys probably won't work
3. Old ones have PS/2

There's no good reason to use PS/2 other than to free up a USB port.

>> No.55675786

>>55675221
>masterkeys pro L
can I open source it?

>> No.55675804

>>55675786
Probably not, but there's an SDK available.

>> No.55675831

>laptop keyboards for your desktop
I honestly wonder if there was some sort of concentrated effort to introduce some sort of chemical into common foods around the world to make people stupid over the last 15 years or so.

It sure would explain a lot.

>> No.55675836

>>55675804
EW,

>keyboard with a soc on it

i do not want to live in a world where your keyboard has a computer on it that cannot be checked to be working for me

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>>55675836

>> No.55676066
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>>55675011
>Anyone get a Planck this week?
still waiting on fucking DHL

Fuck massdrop for their shipping methods

>> No.55676132

Are Kailh Red's any good compared to blackwidow/cherrymx?
cherry mx red/black/blue (anything except brown) are more expensive here. Funny enough blackwidow ultimate is kinda "cheap" 2 times a G7NL tho (or 1.5x without fancy leds) but i never heard of tesoro, which is the cheaper mechanical keyboard i can find.

>> No.55676180

The comma on my current keyboard (some old rubber dome) broke an hour ago which led me to look up information about mechanical keyboards. I didnt even know the difference between the two until an hour ago, so apologies in advance.

Anyway, from my novice research I decided I should try one with cherry switches since I mainly just use my keyboard for gaming. Is there a particular switch you guys favor instead? Or a specific mechanical keyboard you enjoy for gaming the most? I was going to pick one around 60~90 bucks, but the prices on these boards are quite varied.

>> No.55676539

Which asus mech keyboard is best? I need something to hold me over until they release the Claymore

>> No.55676566

>>55676539
no

>> No.55676577

>>55676180
Go to your local electronics store that has a gaming peripherals section available for sample (best buy/fry's) i personally like the Logitech Romer G switches but quite a lot of people don't. Just do some investigating yourself rather than rely on stranger's opinions

>> No.55676591

>>55676566
Man go fuck you dude

>> No.55676683

>>55676591
no

>> No.55676699

>>55676539
just get any board in blues or browns
blacks are best imo but blues are a close runner up if they werent so annoying

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>>55676066
Mine took a week from the time I got the update to ship to Tacoma WA. The top plate required a lot of touch up filing but everything else was good.
What switch did you get?
>>55676180
Cherry Red or Blue. Blue has clicks.
I have a razer black widow tournament edition that's affordable and I like it a lot for gaming. It has blue clones

>> No.55676912

>talk to university IT staff
>ask them if they throw out the dell keyboards that the university use
>wanted to dumpster dive and salvage one or 2 for myself
>they gave me a brand new one in box

It's not a mech but considering that I have been using a red switch for a good amount of time, I miss the clicking feedback and this dell keyboard is here to fill the gap.
I'm glad I know some IT staff and they are kind enough to give me one for free

>> No.55676926

>>55675765
90% mobo still have ps/2 why is that? I have them and never used them cause mouse and kb are all USB, feel like waste having the port there but not using it

>> No.55677003

Are there any TKLs with Dedicated media keys?
Poorfag here, trying to stay <$100

>> No.55677078

>>55676926
They didn't all have that until mechanical keyboards became popular among gamers and they heard about PS/2. If you look at Z77 boards, only the gaming lineups have PS/2.

>> No.55677180

>>55677078
You seriously overestimate just how popular mechanical keyboards are.
Most better motherboards kept ps/2 connectors around, mine even has separate mouse and keyboard ports.

>> No.55677230

>>55675011
Just how cramped are your hands on an ortholinear? I find normal keyboards tight after using a split design and I imagine it would be even worse with straight columns, as comfortable as they are otherwise.

>> No.55677249

>>55675011
>Anyone get a Planck this week?
DHL has given it to USPS and USPS hasn't told me anything.

>> No.55677271

>>55677078
>>55677180
Modern mechanical keyboards use USB with NKRO. it's a solved problem. There was a brief stint where everyone cried for PS/2 but then it was discovered how to do it with USB and suddenly the connector is nowhere to be seen again.

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>>55677230
I built it last night and have been AFK all day so I've really only got about an hour of typing time on it but it's not so bad as far as cramping. I'm used to using the wrong fingers for certain keys so it's an adjustment. I'm definitely going to move some of the modifiers around and add a capslock; those are the least intuitive part.
It's pretty comfy for Dvorak and I imagine colmak as well.
Writing on the keys with pencil helps me learn.
>>55677249
It's frustrating but it should be there in a week. Dang delays

>> No.55677743

>>55677003
s-someone?

>> No.55677782

>>55677743
>>55677003
hate to break it to you but i dont think those types of keyboards exist but i think the next best option is getting something like a qfr

>> No.55677872

>>55677782
Alright, thanks, anon.

After finally getting media keys again, they ain't something I really want to get rid of.

>> No.55677932

>>55677556
That's good to hear for Dvorak, seeing as I use it too. I'm planning to pick one up in the next drop, but I have a few reservations about the design. It seems like it's begging for 13 columns rather than 12, that way I could put oft-used keys in the centre column, spread my hands out a bit more, and have return in a more standard location. I use right shift often, so your placement would not work that well. Then again, it could probably be placed on the thumb.

>> No.55678437

>>55677932
The ortholinear atomic might be a better fit for you then. I'm kind of wishing I'd went with that in some ways though the preonic is quite unique. The atomic is more like a standard TKL (though you can have a full 1u grid instead of having large modifiers, or any variation) but ortholinear. I'll update you as I get more familiar with it.

>> No.55678784

Has anyone ever received a reply from [email protected]? I'm beginning to think that they don't ever check that thing.

>> No.55678866

>>55678437
Thanks, the atomic looks glorious, a giant key matrix is exactly what I want on my desk. Hopefully it goes on sale some time soon.

>> No.55678951

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1606

yes?

>> No.55679025

>>55675011

>60%
>RGB
>Bluetooth
>Cheap

Why should I not order this?

http://www.banggood.com/Anne-PRO-Blue-Red-Switch-RGB-Wireless-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-p-1064055.html

>> No.55679030

>>55678784
Took me about a week for a reply.

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Ok /mkg/, should i?

>> No.55679234

>image.jpg

>> No.55679318

>>55679025
>60%
you answered your own question.

>> No.55679492

I need a 60% keyboard

I was going to go Pok3r 3 all pbt, but I see the RGB version is about to come out. But the RGB version has ABS keycaps. Which version to get?

>> No.55679514

>>55679318
>too stupid to use a function key

>> No.55679527

>>55679514
>needing function keys to use function keys
wew lad

>> No.55679533

>>55679514
no need to get so hostile when someone points out your shitty gimped keyboard is retarded, friend

>>55679527
what this guy said

>> No.55679758

>>55679318
>>55679514
>>55679527
>>55679533
>not owning a full size and a small size keyboard

i thought this was /mkg/

>> No.55679809

>>55679533
>>55679758
preach how poor do you have to be to not have at least 2 keyboards in your arsenal

>> No.55679812

>>55679533
>hasn't used a 60%

You think moving your hands to hit f keys is actually good?

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/g/, i need a recommendation on a small, quieter mechanical keyboard appropriate for office use

i'm coming from a daskeyboard ultimate that i cant use at work because it's simply too loud and distracting to my neighbors

please advise

>> No.55679863

>>55679809
more money spent on keyboards is less money spent on ammo

>> No.55679892

>>55679758
Who keeps a full size once they have realized better form factors exist?

>> No.55679910

i swapped out a 5pin DIN cable for a ps2 on some shitty rubber dome from 1993 (perf condition)

Everything went well but I realised an issue whilst navigating 3d environments using WASD keys:

>press and hold W to go forward
>tap D to move slightly to the right while still holding forward
>now W is not an active function, my finger is pressing the key down but i'm not moving forward

is this an old way of wiring keyboards? never knew about it

>shitty lite-on sk710-w or something

>> No.55680020

>>55679857
What's your budget?

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>>55680020
anything up to 150$

>> No.55680208

>>55676066
I hate this keyboard so much holy shit.
My Cherry is the biggest pos. I bought a very used 7G and it's so much better.

Not even new keycaps fixed this flimsy flaming shit

>> No.55680524

>>55680102

Im sorry anon youre too poor. Your only hope is Matias silent switches on a V80MTS or something.

>> No.55681034

>>55680102
Linears might be the way to go, but if you feel like your coworkers are tolerant you can try to find some good mx clear switch boards. I'd recommend the pok3r if you're going clear. For red switches there are a lot of options, so you should research that if you like the feel of them

>> No.55681041

>>55675011
>people actually paid 250$ for a plastic board.

kekekekekeke (anime old woman laugh)

>> No.55681073

>>55681041

I see wood, switches, caps and metal. Am I missing something?

>> No.55681095

I got a Vortex Pok3r a couple of days ago but the enter key is a different colour from every other key. Is there any other good mechanical keyboards at around £75 - £125 or should I just get a replacement?

>> No.55681195

>>55681073
The fact that it's nowhere close to $250

>> No.55681535

>>55679910
Probably an issue with KRO, your shitty old membrane keyboard can only handle so many simultaneous keypresses

>> No.55681782

>>55680524
>tfw I'll never be part of the meme because I'm too poor to justify spending hundreds for a keyboard and another hundred for a set of keycaps.

I am convincing myself that this is better than buyer's remorse.

>> No.55681963

How do I get into collecting mechanical keyboards? I have no idea where to start, or where to purchase non-gaming ones.
I currently have a blackwidow chroma which I got off a friend for $100, but it feels lacking and gimicky.

>> No.55681980

>>55681095
... You want to get a different keyboard because the enter key is a different color!?

>> No.55682321

I found a Cherry G80-1000 in the trash today.
near mint.
makes me happy.

Are PS/2 converters a Problem? (haven't had too many good experiences.)

>> No.55682377

>>55682321
Nice find!

I've never had any issues unless it's one of the shitty dual PS/2 to USB splitters

>> No.55682459

>>55682377
That's the only ones I ever knew

>> No.55682670

Considering getting this faggy looking thing as my first mechanical keyboard

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ajazz-geeks-ak40-tkl-mechanical-keyboard

/mkg/'s opinion?

>> No.55682845

I want a relatively cheap, TKL/60%, ANSI keyboard in MX clears.l, with a standard bottom row. I was looking at the Ducky One TKL, which I found with 'Cherry MX Milk switches'- would it be safe to assume these are clears?

>> No.55682886

>>55682845
Nope, milk/white are not clears, as clears are non-clicky. Milk are clicky.

>> No.55682900

>>55682845
White Cherry MX (Chinese: Milk) switches

Clear Cherry MX (Chinese: White) switches

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>>55682845
>>55682900
forgot this

>> No.55683051

>>55681041 >>55681195
It's not an hhkb you noob
>>55681095
Buy an individual keycap and be done with it
>>55681782
Buy a razer black widow tkl without the lights. Used ones will even have legit switches. You can get old model Ms for <$100 too. Check goodwill.
>>55681963
If you turn the lights off, what you have is a good basic board. Massdrop is a good place to look around but they took like 6 months to deliver my last board.
Pay attention to form factors and switch types. Some good iconic ones to look into are the model M/unicomp, the hhkb, and the ergodox.
Here's a pastebin that will give you the basics.
http://pastebin.com/8Mxfe8Jq

>> No.55683084

>>55682886
>>55682900

Thanks guys. In that case I might have to go browns, or for a poker 3 with clears as I can't find any other UK based sellers with a clear TKL board

>> No.55683145

>>55683084
Given you're a britbong, the adjustment to ANSI shouldn't be too hard.
Good luck doing that if you primarily type a nordic language.

>> No.55683525

Should I order Vortex keycaps or am I going to get a box of misprints and broken keys?

>> No.55683561

>>55683525
If it's from corus, or corus on amazon: don't bother. They're hit and miss, with emphasis on miss.

>> No.55683596

>>55682908
>mechanical
>gaymen
A cheap membrane is enough for gayming.

>> No.55683666

>>55680102
Poker 3 MX clears

>> No.55683755

>>55683145

Yeah, I don't think I'll notice a difference, all I've used before is a shitty logitech iso membrane keyboard, I'll probably end up buying a brown TKL and if I don't like it I'll return it and get a poker with clears... Hopefully I will like it as the poker is like £110 over here,

>> No.55683821

>>55683561
What about mechanicalkeyboards.com?

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> 89 posts
> no hhkb

what happened to this general

>> No.55683985

>>55683821
Probably one of the most legit dedicated keyboard sites there is.
I envy the english-primary speakers, who have a cornucopia of ANSI pickings.

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>>55683959
that meme got boring

>> No.55684147

>>55683959
>>55684033
Ortho is the rising King of Memes.

>> No.55684178

>>55684147
yeah if i knew where the fuck mine was
DHL tracking says they gave it to USPS
USPS tracking says they didn't get it yet

>> No.55684270

>>55679025
I just ordered one. I'm not sure if it's going to be any good or not, but at that price point it's worth buying it just to see.

>> No.55684275

>>55675512
>Menards

My nigga

how's flyover life for you?

>> No.55684331
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I own a home theater. I have a projector and a 90 inch screen in my basement.

Can anyone recommend a wireless mechanical keyboard that has a Trackpad or a TrackPoint built into it that could be used while sitting on a couch?

I looked on Amazon, but I couldn't find one that was mechanical.

>> No.55684383

>>55684331
What are you using it for?
If it's just going on your lap idk why it would need to be mechanical.
If not, get a separate mouse

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>>55684383
initially, all I thought I would need was a simple interface to search Kodi, but now that I've had it for a few months I find myself using my projector screen to browse the internet. I have one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/Aerb-Wireless-Keyboard-Multifunctional-3-Gsensor/dp/B00K768DHY/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1469116516&sr=1-1&keywords=htpc+remote

But I'm using it to type right now. It's a pain in the ass for typing a lot of text. I guess I could use a rubber dome wireless, but those seem really cheap to me and I was hoping to find a wireless keyboard I could use while sitting on my couch. I have no desk or table to set a mouse on.

>> No.55684490

does anyone here use a full sized keyboard

>> No.55684504

>>55684477
is that an air mouse?

>> No.55684508

>>55684490
depending on my mood

>> No.55684518

>>55684504
yes. it's actually a good air mouse. I was expecting it to be worse than it is.

>> No.55684549

>>55684477
Maybe get a big TV tray that you could use for something firm between your lap and whatever setup you end up with?
As far as Bluetooth rubberdomes I like higher end Logitech and the Microsoft Sclupt set. I don't have experience with wireless mechanicals, sorry.

>> No.55684605

>>55684331
>>55684477
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Keyboard-Multi-Touch-Touchpad/dp/B005DKZTMG/ref=sr_1_23?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1469117315&sr=1-23&keywords=wireless+keyboards

I have a home theater as well. There is no mechanical keyboard that meets your needs. You'll have to settle for rubber domes. I've gone through several products looking for an effective wireless interface with my screen and this is by far the best.

You'll fucking love it.

>> No.55684644

>>55675831
There's a little word that governs most things around the world, it's called price. Where Cherry switches and the like come in at least a dollar a piece you can make an entire chinky plastic keyboard for less than $6. Most of the time people don't care about quality.

>> No.55684663

>>55684605
This looks so comfy...

>> No.55684665

>>55678437
Are there any 100% keyboards that have the keys all ined up like the ortholinear keyboards?

>> No.55684718

>>55684663
what makes it so awesome is the additional left-click button in the upper left corner. It makes it really easy to use while sitting on a couch.

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>>55684665
Other than the atomic, TypeMatrix are probably your closest bet. They're rubberdome but approximately full size (embedded numpad) and less esoteric than ortholinear. Ergodox is a slightly offset grid, and there are some old ergonomic and POS boards that use the layout as well but I can't recommend any. If you can find a matrix tkl that you like and need a numpad you can get a detachable one or program one in since they're natively grid anyways

>> No.55684763

>>55682908
>browns
>shit

alrightyroo

>> No.55684820

whats the difference between leopold FC750 and FC750R

>> No.55684847

Has anyone here used Matias Quiet Linears?

>> No.55685407 [DELETED] 

Just impulse bought a pok3r, should be here tomorrow.

Blue switches. What am I in for?

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Just impulse bought a pok3r, should be here tomorrow.

MX Blue switches. What am I in for?

>> No.55685512

>>55685491
crippling depression as you realize just how fucking shit the FN layer layout is

>> No.55685567

>>55685512
you do realize that the FN layer can be modified, right?

>> No.55685581

>>55685491
>>55685512
the default layout is great though, and if you don't like it you have three entire layers to make your own

>> No.55685590

>>55685567
>>55685581
yeah that would be great if you could program all of the keys

>> No.55685591

>>55685512
I already have a K70, just wanted another metal frame keyboard but something smaller for quakecon byoc coming up. I hate bumping elbows.

>> No.55685614

>>55685491
Fag keyboard. Fag switches.

>> No.55685616

>>55685590
Why can't you?

>> No.55685617

>>55685512
>>55685581
having 3 different ways to delete is pretty dumb

>> No.55685664

>>55685616
m < > and ? are unprogramable because of the retarded multiple programming layers that you will never use
keys that would be useful as they're closest to the default FN key
right control is unprogramable for no good reason

>> No.55685689

>>55679165
>RGB
>>>/v/

>> No.55685690

>>55685664
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sodering+iron

>> No.55685703

>>55685689
why do you keep typing this when you know creating a keyboard thread on /v/ will get you b&?

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>>55685690
what's your point?

>> No.55685726

>>55685707
you're lazy.

>> No.55685737

>>55685703
And RGB backlight gaymen shit should get you banned on /g/

>> No.55685740

>>55685703
Adults who play children's games deserve to be banned.

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>>55685726
and you're fucking stupid.

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miami fag reporting in

>> No.55685772

>>55685742
so you already have a soldering iron and yet you claim a keyboard isn't programmable.

>yep. lazy.

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>>55685772
you're actually retarded aren't you

>> No.55685789

>>55685765
what keyboard is that?

>> No.55685834

>>55685789
noppoo nano 75s

>> No.55685889

>>55685834
what can i sauy, nice keybord Xd

>> No.55685893

>>55685834
is there a backlit version?

>> No.55686218

>>55685765
I really like this form factor. Even though I abhor function keys the top row gives it a nice aspect ratio

>> No.55686277

>>55685765
nice keyboard. now buy a phone that has a better camera.

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55686362

>>55675011

The only keyboard that represents any meaningful innovation.

>> No.55686406
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>>55686362
Pshhh amateur.

>> No.55686440

>>55676577
>>55676750
Thank you both!

>> No.55686481

>>55686406

Kinesis took the basic Maltron idea, improved the layout, and put out a board that's almost affordable. The only flaw in the Kinesis design is the row of shitty function keys. Honestly, they're not used much and easily worked around, but on principle I want mechanical F-keys, too.

Maltron is neat if you're receiving disability bux for your one-handedness, but that's about it.

>> No.55686549

>>55686481
How would you rate ergodox vs that? It can be canted too for wrist angle but not to the point of being convex obviously

>> No.55686770

>>55686362
This 86 year old lady I work with uses one of those! They're incredible. My fingers aren't used to the location of the modifier keys but it seemed real comfy. My esteem for her shot way way up when I saw that on her desk. Also she runs a Pegasus Thunderbolt RAID, so... dope ass grandma.

>> No.55686874

>>55686770
>86 years old
>still working
if she were truly awesome, she would have planned better for her retirement.

>> No.55686966

>>55686277
yeah 2 months and it's happening

>> No.55686997

>>55685893
sadly not but It can't be too hard to mod

>> No.55687009

>>55686874
She's a world renowned artist doing what she loves until she drops. If I'm lucky I'll be in her shoes when I'm that age too. Photographers don't retire, they just die.

>> No.55687111

Best backlit caps??

>> No.55687248
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55687248

Yes or no for a "Drevo" 71 key wireless mechanical keyboard with RGB lightning? Uses Outemu switches and comes with PBT keycaps.

$45 after coupon for me but only a few hours left before it expires.

>> No.55687295

>>55682670

>keyboard
>massdrop

Sure if you don't mind waiting half a year.

>> No.55687296

>>55685772
lol this guy owning himself :') hilarious

>> No.55687794

So, is the noppoo lolita any good?
Been awhile since I've seen it mentioned here.

>> No.55687858

>>55687794
>is the noppoo lolita any good?
kailh switches are not good

>Been awhile since I've seen it mentioned here
a day or two ago

>> No.55687877

>>55687858
I didn't notice it.
Also whats wrong with them?

>> No.55687985

>>55687877
they are cheap in quality and prone to breaking

for the price of the spyder, or even barely more, you could get something of much higher quality

which is too bad because i think it's one of the better looking stock 80%s

>> No.55688024

>>55687985
Whats the best alternative for the price then?
I was hoping (oneday ) to replace the caps with the Miami set.

>> No.55688086

>>55688024
coolermaster has cherry switches, often goes for $70-80ish

you could buy the sypder, and resolder new switches on, assuming the keyboard itself is decent quality

or you could just buy whatever you want and hope for the best

>> No.55688168

>>55688086
Might go with a CM, but I never saw bad stuff about lolita before.

>> No.55688240

>>55687295
STOP REMINDING ME

>> No.55689022

>>55683959
>>55684033
How much did you pay for the pbt spacebars? They're $35 msrp wtf

>> No.55689067

>>55689022
where did you get that number
theyre on massdrop for like $18 for 2(including shipping conus)

>> No.55689095
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Newfaggot here, I ordered some blank keycaps from a groupbuy and I'm trying to put them into my board now. I have white alphas and grey mods, I've noticed the alphas come in 3 different sizes. The largest of which I assume are for the number row, but there's two "smaller" alphas that are very subtly different shapes.

Is one of them the back row of the letter keys and the other the front row?

>> No.55689170

>>55689067
The MSRP is from massdrop, presumably the price if you don't want to shop there (I don't).

>> No.55689198

>>55689095
Flip them over there should be numbers R31 would be 3rd row for example. I just had this problem.

>> No.55689246

>>55689067
I rarely actually see stuff there go for lower than retail prices.

>> No.55689317

My backlit Pok3r doesn't work on my phone through USB OTG unless I'm above a certain charging percentage because I assume it's drawing too much power, is there any way to get around this?

>> No.55689405

>>55689198
Ah, there is. But I'm not seeing an R31, instead all of my Alphas have a single letter. At first glance it seems like they're labelled, by the one labelled F doesn't have a homing marker on it and the three that do are labelled A1, A2, and 11.

These keys are from EnjoyPBT if anyone has a reference as to where everything goes. This is a mystery to me.

>> No.55689816

is there a high end full sized keyboard with gateron reds? or should I just get a filco or leopold with cherry reds

>> No.55689879

>>55689405
Line them up to compare them or else pull out the calipers

>> No.55689978

How are Tomoko and Tesero Keyboards?

>> No.55690086

mechanical, usb wired, ergonomical, osx/nix

$200, 250 if not a gimmick

>> No.55690147

I am not convinced to mech keys. I've had about 5-minutes trial on friends PC but I did not noticed any difference (brown switches fyi). As I do not like to waste money, how I can test if keyboard will be actually comfy and worth its price?

>> No.55690617

Will Tai-Hao keycaps work on the TG3 BL82?

>> No.55690692

Are the poseidon z rgb keyboards any good? Bestbuy selling them for $99CAD

>> No.55690849

>>55690147
go to best buy/Fry's/micro center etc

>> No.55690936

>>55679165
>blacklights
when will this meme end? There can't be more than 50 people on this planet that actually want lights in their keyboards, so why don't they stop putting this stupid feature in already?

>> No.55690973
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55690973

>go on newegg
>look at reviews
>Never use newegg again

>> No.55691163

>>55675011
Just desoldered and resoldered my chattering shine 3

Didn't work so I guess the controller is probably busted, anyone know where to get a replacement controller?

>> No.55691519

What switches should I get to go along with my MX Clears if I want a travel board?

>> No.55691836

is corsair k70 a good keyboard

>> No.55691900

>>55691836
>>55690692
As a general rule: if it's gaming-branded, it's shit.

>> No.55691964

>>55690936
When I was twelve, I thought light-up electronics were the shit. As it turns out, many gaymers are mentally twelve.

>> No.55692029

>>55691900
Well the Poseidon keyboard seems like a pretty plain mechanical keyboard just with fancy lights to get the ADHD gamers on board

>> No.55692089

I'm thinking of getting a Quickfire Rapid keyboard, buying the tai-hao miami keycaps, and then using plastidip to make the keyboard as close to pastel blue or pink as possible

yea/nay

>> No.55692145

>>55689170
i thought they werent for sale anywhere else thats why i was so confused
>>55689246 i think its a made up number to coax people into buying it
but the market is there so i dont see why they need to make it seem like theyre offering such a "great" deal

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55692194

>>55685765
Yo is that space bar 5.5u? Or is it fairly standard?

Pic related coming in soon. Just hit customs at CVG airport.
I'm so hype for topre clone that sounds like scratchy raindrops. *swoon*

>> No.55692294

>>55692145
Seriously, one time I almost bought some headphones at the lowest price, and found them cheaper on amazon.

The prices + wait times means they can fuck off

>> No.55692457

>>55690936
there are many reasons you'd potentially want to light up your keyboard but not your home

>> No.55692702

What's the hottest new shit on 60 percent kb's?

>> No.55692737

I don't really care if I get memed on, but what would be the best ~$100-150 USD mech keyboard for a college studer/gaymer? What switches? Also, how interchangable are switches?

>> No.55692794

>>55692737

everyone has different preferences in size, key feel, weight, and noise. order a switch tester or in-store stuff to see what you like.

you need to desolder most switches to change them out, except a few boards like the zhuque which use hotswappable ones.

>> No.55692879

>>55692794
what's a good store to go to to test stuff out? I don't wanna get something with "non-standard" switches like my last cheap mech was.

>> No.55692941

>>55692702
50% KBs like mine in the op lel

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hey /g/, newbee looking for advice. I've been looking into getting a keyboard with these criteria:

– small (not full size), easily brought with laptop
– removable cable (is this the norm?)
– mechanical, any switches
– doesn't require modding (ie. soldering)
– preferably low cost, sub $100

// optional; blank keycaps
// optional; backlights

So far this Qisan (Magicforce) keyboard is all I've come across, including the added blank keycaps from Aliexpress.

Is there anything close to the Magicforce?

links:
https://www.amazon.com/Qisan-Mechanical-Keyboard-68-Keys-Magicforce/dp/B01ABUJ0FY/

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/new-model-keycool-87-84-PBT-keycap-cherry-mx-switch-mechanical-keyboard-caps-POM-cool-shine/1948775033.html

>> No.55693198

>new mech keyboard
>love typing on it, programming and just about everything
>can't stand playing gaymes on it, the keys are just too tall

should I just have two keyboards and swap them depending on what I'm doing? that feels like such a hassle

>> No.55693270

>>55693198
Consider thick O-rings. Try out the blue ones from WASD.

>> No.55693313
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>>55685772
That's really not how this works you dunce

>> No.55693373

>>55692879

frys or microcenter if they're near you, worst buy usually has a couple with mediocre clone switches.

switch testers are best for keyfeel though.

>> No.55693375

>>55692089
It'll look like shut in your setup. Those stupid meme keycaps don't go with anything that doesn't match the color scheme exactly, so unless you're going to paint all your other hardware, fuck of back to /bst/

>> No.55693428

Okay, I wanted to get a "vintage" IBM mechanical keyboard, but I didn't realize how expensive those are. So, instead, I'll just settle for a modern mechanical keyboard. I want one with a full set of function keys and all keys that a full keyboard has, PS/2 input, and I want one for under $100. What are my options?

I'm willing to put one together myself from a kit or something if that's cheaper.

>> No.55693429

>>55693186
>small (not full size), easily brought with laptop
Multiple options in the 60% layout.
>removable cable (is this the norm?)
For smaller keyboards it's pretty normal.
>mechanical, any switches
You should care significantly more about the switch type.
>preferably low cost, sub $100
You're looking into chinkboards at that price.

>Is there anything close to the Magicforce?
Is there something about it that you don't like?

>> No.55693455

>>55693428
Get a unicomp, they're modern identical copies of the model M. Like $100

>> No.55693456

>>55693428
>PS/2 input
There is literally no reason to have this unless you're using a really old computer.

>> No.55693479

>>55693186
The memeforce 68 is a rip off of the more expensive varmillo va68. I have a memeforce in gateron clears and it's certainly aesthetic and lightweight . The memeforce itself fulfills most of your criteria besides blank keycaps, and it may not be very durable compared to something with a tougher case

If you want something smaller it's going to be some chinkshit 60%

>> No.55693480

>>55693455
Okay, thanks.

>>55693456
My computer has PS/2 inputs and I'd like to use that so that I can keep my USB inputs free. Is there anything bad about using it over USB?

>> No.55693524

>>55693480
Shouldn't be unless you're an MLG CSPRO. I think unicomp still makes PS2. Post here when you've ordered one.

>> No.55693542

>>55693480
My media keys didn't work when I plugged into PS/2, so there goes an adapter in the trash.

>> No.55693559

>>55682908
Browns feel almost identical to blues if you wear earplugs and do a blind test on yourself.

>> No.55693591
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>>55693559
I got a switch tester and a very disappointed mother right here m8, You're talking out of your ass.

>> No.55693618

>>55693591
I mean, I also got a switch tester, earplugs, and sense of touch. Browns are in no way closer to reds than blues, and the pressure curve is nearly identical between browns and blues.

>> No.55693778

>>55693375
I'm not at all opposed to doing that

>> No.55693805

>>55693778
Good luck finding/painting your hardware in that case, I'll be keeping an eye out for the one guy with those atrocious keycaps actually fitting his setup

>> No.55693823
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55693823

>>55693618
Once you actually start typing on them at a proper speed they'll feel closer to reds with dirt in them.

Though admittedly, blues felt like linears with broken glass in them to me. Get clears or greens instead.

>> No.55694008

Other than a poker 3, what are the smallest keyboards with a standard bottom row? Currently looking at a Ducky TKL, but wondering if there were any slightly narrower options, and whether I'd miss the arrow keys...

>> No.55694078

If I'm happy with my non-mech keyboard, a Sidewinder X6 w/o the numpad, I should just stick with it, right?

>> No.55694133

>>55694078
Yes. I would suggest trying out a few mechanical keyboards at a local tech store, though, in case you haven't already.

>> No.55694174

>>55694133
All I have is best buy, so not a good selection; didn't care too much for it. My roommate has a DAS w/brown keys and it felt mushy as hell to me.

>> No.55694750
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>>55685491
I love mine

>> No.55694777
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55694777

I guess I should post here.

Finally got a mech keyboard because the keyboard on my laptop fucking exploded one day.

Unicomp Ultra Classic, Blue/Black. You guys were right that this thing is super loud. Feels great though.

>> No.55694943
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55694943

Planck with matias quiet clicks. I like my switches a little stiffer usually, but this is such a good compromise between retaining my hearing and tactile feedback that it has become my favorite.

>> No.55695347

Any idea what Ducky is doing? My retailer stopped selling Shine 5s and cant get Nordic keyboards anywhere...

>> No.55695350

should i buy a whitefox?

>> No.55695438

>>55693823
>Once you actually start typing on them at a proper speed they'll feel closer to reds with dirt in them.
Holy fuck this.

>> No.55695463

clears are nice for typing but my fingers get tired when im trying to play a game

>> No.55695634

I need to replace the cheap backlit caps on my coolermaster storm ultimate
best backlit caps ??

thanks!

>> No.55695687

How much better are gateron browns than cherry mx browns? I'm thinking of getting a kbp v60 with gateron browns because I've heard they're better. I'm currently using a g710+ with cherry mx browns and they don't really feel tactile enough.

>> No.55695696

>>55695634
All backlit caps are shit newfriend.

>> No.55695833

>>55694943
this is embarrassing to admit on /g/ but I am having much difficulty learning to program it. I just want to add a capslock and hyphen.
any tips?

>> No.55695966

>>55694750
Is that a poker?

>> No.55696565

>>55695966
Maybe you'd know if you were able to follow a chain of replies.

>> No.55696635

How durable are the Unicomp/IBM keys? Do they get slippery fast?

>> No.55697066
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just bought this beauty

>> No.55698061

What TKL/60% boards are there that come with clears other than the poker?

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>tfw never ever

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>>55692194
little late to the party, but what board is this?

>> No.55698703

get a cm quickfire ultimate with browns or some corsair with reds or blues? cm is probably better quality but browns are said to suck. Are browns really that shit?

>> No.55698721

>>55698703
Both are shit options.

>> No.55699486

>>55698700
Plum 84 my dude.

>> No.55699564

>>55699486
Is it any good?

>> No.55699649

>>55699564
35g topre with cherry compatible stems. It may be a bit light for heavy typists.

>> No.55699669

>>55699649
OK.

>> No.55699683

>>55699564
I don't know, I don't have it yet.. Saw a review on reddit about it and looked dope so i purchased it in hopes i'll reach end game which is supposed to be a 60-75% topre board.

i rly like reds and have been wanting gateron reds cause 35g switches, but found this and was intrigued. i'm goin in fuckin blind man.

>> No.55700102

>tfw LGR found a Das keyboard on Goodwill for 2 bucks

Why can't I be this lucky?

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>> No.55700260

>>55700245
What board is that

>> No.55700283

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/the-whitefox-keyboard

>> No.55700395

>>55700260
Novatouch with aftermarket PBT keycaps.

>> No.55700492

>>55700260
FAG-9000

>> No.55700521

>>55698140
is this real?
shit
10/10 would pay any amount for.

>> No.55700561

>>55700521
Some anons here are making it.

>> No.55700590

Do white keycaps get dirty quickly??

>> No.55700854

>>55686874
For sure, yeah. I want to work hard now so I can do fuck all at 86.

>> No.55701129

Any keyboard without the numpad (those micro keyboards) at about 100euro with cherry brown and classy? I dont care about retroilumination and other ""luxuries""

>> No.55701303

Does anybody have the link for the buying guide? I'm looking for my first mechanical keyboard.

>> No.55701370

>>55675011
Lmao, couldn't be more hipster if they tried

>> No.55701419
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Is this a realforce keybaord in this picture?

>> No.55701615

>>55675066
is this a pok3r?

>> No.55701692
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Tempted to order this as my first mech keyboard, anybody have opinions on it?

>> No.55701745

>>55695696
oh, didnt know

>> No.55701994
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Not strictly mechanical, but just got one of these for $25 and they feel really nice since each key has it's own dome and it's not just one printed membrane. Surprisingly tactile.

Feels like MX Browns.

>> No.55702006

NEW THREAD
>>55701992
>>55701992

>> No.55702042

>>55701994
I thought mx browns were universally disliked here?

>> No.55702059

>>55701419
Don't know what gives you the idea that it would be. That thing has one hell of a strange nav cluster and looks nothing like a realforce

>>55701692
I have one, it's shit

>> No.55702092

>>55698721
so go for the cheapest rubberdome then or what? I cant buy online because id have to pay for the keyboard + shipping + 23% as customs fee so all I can do is buy from link below
Find something better thats not that 200+ euro das http://www.e-shop.gr/pliktrologia-keyboards-ypologiston

>> No.55702176

>>55686549
>How would you rate ergodox vs that?

I've never used an Ergodox, but they're flat. I like the dished shape of the Kinesis key layout.

>>55686770
>My fingers aren't used to the location of the modifier keys but it seemed real comfy.

It took about two weeks to get used to it. It's hard to overcome muscle memory. For what it's worth, I'm currently typing on a CM Novatouch on QWERTY. I can switch back to the Kinesis in Dvorak with only a couple of typos in the first few minutes.

Also, while I like the CM Novatouch, I really, REALLY prefer the innovative layout of the Kinesis. I don't like having to move my hands to reach navigation keys. inb4 vim, not everything is reasonably edited in vim, and vim's "superior navigation" system is just a compensation for the poor suitability of the traditional 104-key layout.

>> No.55702194

>>55702059

>I have one, it's shit

That's a shame, any recommendations for something in the roughly the same price range?

>> No.55702213

>>55702042

I have no problem with MX Browns. I think some very vocal people are far too precious. Also, they feel a need to justify their expenditure, thus reds (or whatever) are just soooooo much better than browns. I have both. The difference is extremely minor.

>> No.55702660
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55702660

Anyone know where I can order individual blank cherry mx keycaps or some keycaps with emoticons? Making pic related as a gift.

>> No.55703705
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55703705

>mfw not using 512 keys

>> No.55704349

>>55700521
tex yoda trackpoint

>> No.55704791

There typically aren't any topre keyboards at retail stores are there? I don't think I've ever seen ont at frys or microcenter. I'd like to try one out for a bit before I get one. guess my best bet is a switch tester?

>> No.55704827

Do white keycaps get dirty quickly??

>> No.55704882

>>55704791
switch tester is about your only choice unless you live in california
elitekeyboards has a shop with all their boards in there
10321 Los Alamitos Blvd
Los Alamitos, CA 90720

>> No.55704939

>>55704827
not in my experience

>> No.55705230

>>55704882
fug that must be nice. I'm in Atlanta so i guess it's a switch tester.

>> No.55705354

Whats the best budget board under$60?
Prefer something similar to greens or blues.
Don't care if they're cherry or not.

>> No.55705385

>>55705354

Magicforce or GANSS GS87 on Amazon

>> No.55705485

>>55705385
The 87 looks nice, thanks anon.
Might grab it and swap the keys with tai-haos.

>> No.55705635

Convince me to not jump on the Whitefox drop

>> No.55705686

>>55705635
it's way overpriced

>> No.55705727

>>55689978
bump

>> No.55705849

>>55705686
I know, but it's got my ideal layout and Gaterons

>> No.55705901

>>55705849
if you can afford it, and want it, and are okay waiting 7-10 months to get it, then buy it

>> No.55705936

meme keyboards everywhere

>> No.55705941

>>55705354
>>55705354
Not quite $60.
http://www.banggood.com/Anne-PRO-Blue-Red-Switch-RGB-Wireless-Bluetooth-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-p-1064055.html

>> No.55706053

>>55705941
thanks anon, but I prefer the 87 styles, loosk nice though.

>> No.55706364

the quickfire xt looks so much better in real life than on the stock pics

even the font isn't as atrocious (except for the A)

>> No.55706779

Are these key caps any good (for my CM quickfire rapid). Not looking to spend more than $30

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/No-Keycap-Board-Side-printed-Front-Print-White-108-PBT-Keycap-For-OEM-Cherry-MX-Switches/32562639132.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_2_10057_10056_10055_10049_10017_405_404_10059_407_10058_10040_10060,searchweb201603_1&btsid=e54ac4e8-14e6-495a-8c0e-d5cd8cb134ce

>> No.55706802

>>55706779
>Are these key caps any good (for my CM quickfire rapid).
They'll fit, if that's what you're asking.

>> No.55706811

>>55706802
I mean good quality

>> No.55706849

>>55706811
They're probably "okay" - medium-thin with meh legends.

>> No.55706867

>>55706811

yes, someone posted a picture of the thickness 2 threads back. they're unbeatable for the money.

>> No.55707283

Someones selling a CM Storm TK w/blue keys near me for $50 used.
Is that a good deal?

>> No.55707332

>>55707283
It's $80 right now on amazon.

What condition is it in, does it look like he spilled milk and shaved his dick on top of it?

Is buying used worth saving $50 to you?

>> No.55707384
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>>55707332
yea it doesn't look bad.
Still not sure I should.

>> No.55707419

>>55707384
oh yeah that's not the keyboard i thought it was :^)

i wouldn't buy anything that had such a nonstandard bottom row, and that was gamer branded.

>> No.55708343
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Get on my level, plebs.

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