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literally fits in your coat pocket edition

>Buyer's template for the unenlightened:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtK
>Keyset wiki
keypuller.com

>> No.54962934
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54962934

Oh nice, a new thread.
>Budget: $100
I'm new to this stuff, I want a keyboard that's really comfortable to type on fast.
What switch-type/keyboard should I get?

>> No.54962955
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54962955

Pok3r master race

>> No.54963000

I have a topre realforce88 in a plastic bag

Its better than any kb you will ever own


Fuck you

>> No.54963164

>>54962934
Are you a heavy or light typer?

>> No.54963205
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>>54963000
ok.

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>>54962934
Whatever you like. Typing fast is possible on every switch, comfort is a matter of your personal preference.

Look at the different types of switches and see what appeals to you, then come back to make sure you didn't choose the wrong type of switch that we don't approve of.

>> No.54963227

>>54963205

Still not a Topre.

>> No.54963229
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>>54963000
Why do you keep it in plastic bag? Is it too precious?

>> No.54963237

>>54962750

i want this setup. what am i looking at?

>> No.54963288
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>>54962955
wasd keycaps are not though

>> No.54963347

>>54963227
are you pretending to be retarded?

>> No.54963373
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>>54963164
I've been using the scissor switch on my laptop for ages so long I honestly don't know but it definitely feels lighter to type on than the average Dell membrane, maybe ~50g is nice?
>>54963215
I know I hate blues, way too loud and squeaky; like I'm squishing a rat with each key press.
Browns seem pretty disliked here I wouldn't want a keyboard that feels "like it's been stuffed with dirt"
Blacks I hear aren't very good for typing because they're too heavy (never tried them though)
Anything else is $120+, help

>> No.54963416

>>54962750
>http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtK

This link no longer works

>> No.54963424

>>54963288
Maxkeyboard but nice try. I'm trying to get my hands on ORIGINATIVE or Enjoy PBT beige / gray blanks but everywhere I search they are sold out.

>>54963373
I would check if there's a store nearby where you can check switches. The keyboard doesn't really matter since most of the typing experience comes from the switches (and some from which keycaps you're using). This is so different for everyone there isn't a 'best' switch

>> No.54963445

>>54963237
Xiaomi Redmi 3
HHKB Pro 2
Some cheap ass mouse

>>54963373
Your perception of browns is correct. The rest is pretty much a matter of preference, blacks are perfectly fine for typing, but most switches are perfectly fine for typing.

>> No.54963565

>>54962750
I'm gonna get a Logitech G810 this fall. Personally I like the switches on it. Any better mechanical gaming keyboards with RGB LEDs out there?

>> No.54963576

>>54963565
Ducky Shine 5.

>> No.54963583

>>54963565
>gaming keyboards with RGB LEDs
Get out.

>> No.54963626

>>54963583
Shut up faggot everyone has their preferences.

>> No.54963900
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raging so hard at the fucking austrian customs department. they've been holding my keycaps for a whole week already and been super rude on the phone too.

>> No.54963942

how do you prevent key chatter?

>> No.54963976

>>54963900
Why the hell are they holding your keycaps?

"Herbert, der Mann hat n' Haufen kleine Plastikteile bestellt, schau mal ob er n' Terrorist oder so was is"

>>54963942
You don't, all you can do is either replace the switch or fix it with software.

A debounce time is already programmed in the firmware for the regular debouncing of the switches, but obviously switches still can go awry, in which case all you can do is what I mentioned above.

>> No.54964044

>>54963976
I called the post office service hotline and the guy (very friendly btw) told me a lot of people have been complaining recently about customs holding their shit for 2weeks+. they seem to be behind quite a bit and just don't care.

>> No.54964175

Are Noppoo shit? The Noppoo mini is on sale amazon UK right now for 55£
I'm kinda weary of them being chinese, and having Gatreon switches instead of cherry ones

>> No.54964219

>>54964175
>Are Noppoo shit?
Not at all. The white ones come with PBT caps and gateron linears are far smoother than the cherry equivalents. Not to mention that they're cheaper. Go right ahead.

>> No.54964240

>>54964175
they are really good but you wont be able to replace the spacebar

its pbt though so you wont really need to

>> No.54964258
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>>54962955
oi oiiiiii

>> No.54964272

>>54964258
BLUESEPTEMBER

or was it november

>> No.54964287
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>>54964272
No idea, but I've got some new keycaps being shipped in September.

>> No.54964305

>>54964287
So it was SEPTEMBER

ROYALNAVY

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>>54964305
Spot on John! You got a set coming?

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fc660m in nature whites WHEN?

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>>54964305

Rule Britannia!
Britannia rule the waves
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.
Rule Britannia!
Britannia rule the waves.
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

>> No.54964476

Who's in for the Zealio GB R3? Getting me some 65 gram fealios

>> No.54964481
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>>54964351
Nope, I'm just reminding you of the fact that it's not September yet in order to distract myself from the fact that there's nothing exciting for me to wait for right now.

I like your keyboard/keycaps/cable combo btw, reminds me that I should get some parts for my soldering station so that I can make my own usb cables.
And it's nice to see someone other than me and the local tripfag post their shit. I always wish more people would post their keyboards here.

>>54964370
Whenever the exclusivity contract with Ducky runs out.
Maybe. You'll still have to wait for Leopold to implement them in their keyboards.

>> No.54964612

>>54964481
I don't change mine often enought to post regularly, I also don't like posting the same set up over and over again!

Is making your cable easy? I love pexonpcs work but I would quite a few and they sure aren't cheap.

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Cherry MX Blues w/ 40A-r O-rings, yay or nay?

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>>54964612
Not very difficult at all from what I've seen.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Creating-you-own-USB-cables/

All you need is some cable, paracord (or whatever you prefer to wrap your cables in) and some usb connectors and some heatshrink tubing.
All of the materials needed are available for dirt cheap on ebay, typically with free chinese shipping.

And of course you need a soldering iron, though it seems that a really basic one will already be enough.

>> No.54964868

Hey /mkg/, I'm in the market for a mechanical.

Looking for the following features:
- ISO German layout
- full size (TKL would be okay too I guess)
- detachable cable is a must (routing a plus)
- The cheaper the better
- Backlighting is an absolute no go

Thought maybe you'd have a recommendation?

>> No.54964872

when does the ducky shine 6 come out?

>> No.54964884

>>54964872
November

>> No.54964899

>>54964872
You're not really considering it are you?

>> No.54964901

>>54964872
is that the dope ass bluetooth 65%?

>> No.54964923

>>54964899
What's wrong with it?

>> No.54964944

>>54964884
ty
>>54964899
i just want to see what it looks like. i'm in need of an upgrade

>> No.54964946

More important question: When will Vortex release that split keyboard and the 40% ones?

>>54964868
Cherry MX Board 3.0 or a Cooler master XT.

>>54964884
What kind of features will it have? I've seen the video from computex, but all I could see was they added that piece of gimmick for routing your mouse cable.

>>54964901
Nope, it's another RGB fullsize.

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>>54964946
>Nope, it's another RGB fullsize.
>tfw

>> No.54964987

>>54964944
>i just want to see what it looks like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP2vxUZ49Dw&feature=youtu.be&t=6m40s

>> No.54965067

>>54964899
i mean what's wrong with it? looks fine

>> No.54965314

>>54964258
Where to get cables like that

>> No.54965342

>>54962750
FAQ is dead!

>> No.54965371

>>54965342
I feel like everything there could be summed up with "Look it up on deskthority/geekhack and ask in the thread if you have any further, more specific questions. Don't buy Corsair or Razer."

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>> No.54966129

Clueboard arrived. Only took two months due to an utter debacle with the shipping.

Matias QC are fantastic.

>> No.54966206

>>54966129
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT HE FORGOT THE KEYCAPS

FUCKING SHITTING CUNT

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What's in the box, /g/?

>> No.54966246

>>54962955
Which keycaps?

>> No.54966484

>>54966236
A unicomp

>> No.54966541

>>54966236
>not memory foam

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What's so good with mechanical keyboards /g/?
Honestly the ones I have tried doesn't feel that much different from "regular" keyboards, just that some of them are clicky.

Pic related my current keyboard

>> No.54966583

>>54966236
new sheets hopefully

>> No.54966708

>>54966206
Wow, it's kind of impressive how fucked this is. I ordered an acrylic mounting plate that would fit inside a stock FC660 case, but the main post hole isn't aligned properly and the plate is too wide. This is what I get for trying to put together something outside the standard parameters.

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How do I get this?

>> No.54966863

>>54966852
GB on GH.

>> No.54966958

>>54966852
It looks very nice, but you might be sad later when your keycap stems crack.

>> No.54966993

What's a good PBT set for a quickfire rapid

>> No.54967027
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There's another huge problem with mechs that you people don't talk about. They can't do backlighting properly due to the position of the lights.

Look at the number pad in pic related. The primary letterings are way too bright, but the secondary lettering? They're almost invisible.

Don't fall for the mech meme, people.

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Sexxy

>> No.54967050

guys i gotta ask what the appeal of those obnoxious planck keyboards are. like why that as opposed to just a 100 or 65%. how small could your desk possibly be to require something that tiny

>> No.54967075

>>54963373
You need to be aware of the autism level that floats around this thread and all "enthusiast" discussion places. When you read something like

>it's been stuffed with dirt

you must remember that the person typing it is most likely an autistic retard.

Browns are lovely switches.

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>>54967050
idk, but i'm going to find out
ordered it from massdrop, so i'll be lucky if i get it this year

i'm expecting it to be agonizing to use

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>>54967075
my first board was browns, and i used to think they're not so bad

then i get switch tester and a few other boards and realized just how fucking garbage they are.

gateron browns are pretty fantastic though

>> No.54967139

>>54967027
First of all, that's only a problem with backlit mechanical keyboatds.

It also varies a lot depending on which keycaps you use and how the backlighting is implemented. Newer switches have translucent casings that allow for better light diffusion.

Is that a nighthawk or whatever it's called from maxkeyboards? Whatever it is, it already would be far less of an issue has you not bought a piece of shit.

>> No.54967208

>>54966708
Sorry to hear that anon, I've also been thinking of picking up a clueboard.

Can you fix it with cutting/drilling?

>> No.54967218

>>54967027

>Falling for the backlighting meme

You'll get older later

>> No.54967270

>>54967208
Maybe? The mounting holes are so very close to the edges of the plate that, if I sanded it, the leftmost and rightmost switches would end up with one side open. The post is another matter, as I don't think I have tools delicate enough to open a new hole that aligns properly without destroying the rather delicate plate. I could shave the post itself a fair bit, but that could fuck with the case's integrity.

I've reached out to Zach to see what he suggests. He's normally pretty good with communication.

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>>54966236
Hmmmmm....

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How loud are blue switches compared to black switches?

I used to own a blue keyboard but it was so long ago I literally forgot what they sound like.

>> No.54967404

>>54967218
Backlights > lamp. Lamps alert the whole neighborhood what you're up to. They let criminals keep more accurate records of what your daily routine is.

When they have wrong records, you have the element of surprise and a better chance to save yourself from their attack.

>> No.54967507

>>54967404
are you literally 12?

>> No.54967754

Sooo yeah I got this old Hitachi Mechanical Keyboard and i was wondering how to get it to work with modern hardware

>> No.54967842

>>54967754
you're going to need to post pictures or something

>> No.54967889

>>54967842
yeah i already tried Soldering a PS/2 cable to its in hopes that that would work

>> No.54967926

>>54967889
i don't think you understand
there's nothing anyone can do to help you without pictures or a model number

>> No.54967968

>>54967926
I think you're talking to a literal retard.

>> No.54967969

>>54967926
yea yea thats what the yeah was about in that photo getting it now hold your horses

>> No.54967985
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Here's the keyboard

>> No.54968008

>>54967985
>image.jpg
>1280x960

I doubt this is your photo. I think we're getting le trolled boys.

>> No.54968032

>>54967985
look on the back for a label

>>54968008
we'll give him one more chance here

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>>54968008
Well my boy you'd be wrong
>>54968032
also its just a bar-code with some barely legible numbers tried to find the Mfg date Code circle thing but it wasn't on either pieces of plastic

>> No.54968377

>>54968112
So are you just going to ignore me now?

>> No.54968432

>>54968112
ok what does the connection look like?

>> No.54968487

>>54968432
the original was an RJ11 connector

>> No.54968552
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>>54968487
ok
you're going to need to know the pin out for it to connect it to PS/2

>> No.54968643

>>54968552
ok so i guess thats not mine mine only has 4 wires so see where there is a space for where there there could be 6 wires yeah mine doesnt have that also let me get out my soldering iron

>> No.54968680
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>>54968643
as far as i can tell there's two types
4 and 6 pin

>> No.54968706

>>54968680
aye that's the one

>> No.54968810

>>54968680
Now what

>> No.54968830

>>54968810
well connect the right wires now

>> No.54968848

>>54968830
Really now? thats the thing i dont know what Wires to connect from the PS/2 cable
>>54968680
Also What are the chances shorted it out i forgot to unplug it while soldering on it at one point

>> No.54968865

Are smug anime face caps a thing?

>> No.54968896

>>54968848
look up the pin diagram of a ps/2 connector and connect the right wires

>Also What are the chances shorted it out
uh
there was something you're not supposed to ever do like connect some other wire to the +5v, but i forgot

>> No.54968906

>>54968896
oh well that may have happened
also the PS/2 Cable Wires have the same colors as a Standard USB cable

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>>54968906
you need to know what pins the wires go to

>> No.54968962

>>54968947
well how do i tell which wire goes to which pin

>> No.54968989

>>54968962
with some continuity tester

>> No.54969011

>>54968989
i dont have one of those
also there are 5 wires in this Cable
but only 4 places to solder

>> No.54969074

>>54969011
well you're going to need one
the simplest ones are just a batter a lightbulb and 2 wires

you can just ignore the wire you dont need

>> No.54969135

>>54969074
ok what kind of Bulb
batteries and i think the Bare wire is the ground not the black one

>> No.54969201

>>54969074
Will a CFL and a 9v work?

>> No.54969245

>>54969135
>>54969201
whatever lights up

>> No.54969300

>>54969245
kek ok well i Jigger rigged a Bug light it should work

>> No.54969516

>>54962750
so do you just count the number rows every time to know which you're pressing?

>> No.54969534

>>54967404

>he has to look at his keyboard to type

I remember when I was 12 playing MW4 on the MSN Gaming Zone.

Learned quickly trying to chat and fight at the same time.

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>>54969516
yeah
you just memorize and count the keys each time
it's slower but it's all about the memes

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>>54966236
ta-da

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>>54969618
what an old piece of shit

>> No.54969722

burnt my hair on the soldering iron

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>>54969649
shh, it's beautiful

>> No.54969864

>>54969245
Connections made now what

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>>54962750
faggot

>> No.54969988

No dice the BIOS said there was no KB attached

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>mechanical keyboards with no numpads

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>>54970249
are superior

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>>54964175
I love my Noppoo

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Does anyone here use O rings? Frankly my Blues are way too loud, the 40A-r seem pretty well praised in terms of typing comfort

>> No.54971098

>>54969516
Small ridge on the F and H keys

>> No.54971113

>>54971087
40-50A are too squishy for me.

>> No.54971260

>>54971087
>blues
>too loud
lmfao
try buckling springs

>> No.54971440

>>54971087
50As are good enough for me. Bear in mind that the clicks themselves are still quite loud, and don't sound as good without the clack.

>> No.54971745

>>54965314
I got this one from pexonpcs, great if you're based in the uk/eu. Not sure where to look if you're unlucky enough to live outside this glorious area.

>> No.54971763

>>54966852
Step one: Buy 60%
Step two: Buy keycaps
Step three: Put keycaps on 60%

Next.

>> No.54971781

>>54963373
All MX switches feel the same. Anyone claiming otherwise needs a check up from the neck up.

>> No.54971806

>>54971087
I heart my o-rings. They are cheap af, just grab a pack and try them out.

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>>54971440
Really all I want is the click feel without the high pitched squeal, so I guess this is a sort-of poor man's MX Clears
>>54971806
Problem is the shipping can be a bit expensive, $8 on $15 o rings is a big hike. What hardness do you use?

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>>54962750
Is that some gunslinger girl?
Great taste.

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>>54972051
Certainly is

>> No.54972174

>>54972013
There's a drop on massdrop right now, but they're 50A. I seriously hope you're not considering buying o-rings from JewASD.

>click feel without the high pitched squeal
Matias Quiet Click or Topre. Topre is not as crisp but feels good nonetheless.

>> No.54972496

What's a good spring weight if I want to modify a linear switch to be between stock Gateron Reds and Blacks?

>> No.54972573

Is Unicomp the only place for buckling spring keycaps?

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54972640

>>54963215
>that bowl of napkins placed on the left side

>> No.54972746

>>54972174
>click
>topre
Are topre fanboys THIS desperated?

>> No.54973078

>>54972746
Clicky without the click sound literally means tactile.

>> No.54973654
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54973654

>>54962750

Am I cool yet?

>> No.54973727

>>54973654
where to cop that unicorn item

>> No.54973831

>>54973654
where do you put your speakers with multimonitor setups like this? behind the monitors?

>> No.54973924
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54973924

Just got my shine 5, it's amazing.

>> No.54973937

>>54973654
you're a meme familia

>> No.54973965

what are the cherry equivalent to black apls switches? ive been using the same dell mechanical keyboard for a couple years now and feel like its time for a new one.

>> No.54974041
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54974041

mkg JELLY EDITION
>found broken second-hand 7G for 10€
>guy says he tried everything including usb>ps2 converter and nothing worked
>I get home, plug USB, doesn't work
>realize keyboard has also ps2 cord
>mfw it works

tl;dr: I got a working 7G for 10€

>> No.54974073

>>54973965
whites or clears, if you want stiff and tactile

If you don't mind the click, greens are even closer to black alps

>> No.54974133

>>54974073
that would lead right into my next question, what boards would you recommend with either white or clear switches?

>> No.54974145

I bought a HHKB Professional 2. It feels amazing and looks amazing.

But is this it? Is this the "end-game"? Is there a better keyboard out there, for like $400-500?

>> No.54974199

>>54974145
There's no such thing as end-game for the true enthusiast.

>> No.54974490

>>54973831

Ultrawide has speakers built in. GPU gives it audio.

But I mainly use wireless backbeat pros.

>>54973727

The haro? I got it at a Gundam Cafe store in Osaka. It had chocolate crunch candy in it.

>>54973937

Thanks.

But to be full meme I am missing things like backlighting, an HHKB, and some brocaps.

>> No.54974554

>>54974133
Any of these:
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=49

I have yet to see a shitty keyboard with Clears or Whites, search the site and buy the one you like the most :)

>> No.54974577

>>54974133
>>54974554
You probably should go for MX Clear as the White have a soft click still.

Clears are closer to a broken in Black ALPS

>> No.54975257

>>54963288
>>54970940

Is this keyboard worth it?
I'm about to fall for HHKB or TKL realforce but this one seems kinda good enough.

>> No.54976401
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54976401

I like the new bro Reaper Classics

>> No.54976447

How do i make the " ` " that turns the other way on a pok3r? Is it even possible to do on ANSI?

>> No.54976571

>>54975257
they are pretty good i have had mine for 3 years and i have had no problems the only bad thing is the replaceable spacebar. if you intend on replacing the caps i recommend the keycool 84 instead

>> No.54976586

>>54976401
stop liking that please

>> No.54976732

>>54976571
I often see in these threads keycaps with the stem broken. Shit never happened to me on rubber dome (except on chicklet shitty laptops). Shit doesn't seem to happen on topre.

>> No.54977048

>>54976732
>I often see in these threads keycaps with the stem broken
I doesn't happen with almost every set of keycaps. The broken stems are an issue with PBT caps made by Gateron.

>> No.54977189

>>54977048
IDK I own 4 sets and none of them have broke

>> No.54977308
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54977308

>>54962750
Apex M800 arrived today, my first ever Mechanical Keyboard.

I replaced the Apex RAW (membrane) which is a bit bigger, so I'm still getting used to the size. Loving it so far though!

>> No.54977374
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54977374

>tfw zero regrets

6 months going stronk

>> No.54977392
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>>54977374
It's been six months already?

>> No.54977406

>>54977392
sure is

we got them around half january

>> No.54977441
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>>54977406
About a month away from outliving my Ducky in terms of being used in that case.

Those were some fun times.

>> No.54977460
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54977460

>>54977441
I had my poker 2 with blues for a year,
although I didn't bring it to work so it wasn't my daily driver.

>> No.54977590

I want to get a custom esc key, do I get a DCS or SA keycap?

>> No.54977633

>>54977590
whatever the rest of your keycaps are

>> No.54977757

What do you think about electro capacitive switches?

I have only tried linear non-tactile MX Cherry clones (red Kailhs) and I have a tendency to bottom out. I suppose it would be easier to avoid it when using tactile switches so I'm considering either MX browns or some electro capacitive switches (which should be quiet even if I do bottom out).

>> No.54977795

>>54977757
>electro capacitive switches
Also known as topre.

>> No.54977811
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>>54977757
There's nothing wrong with bottoming out. If bottoming out on your reds bothers you for some reason you should get o-rings or soft landing pads.

Cherry browns suck and you should not use browns or like browns.

I don't know about Model F's, but bottoming out on Topre (electro-capacitive switches) is almost impossible when typing normally due to the nature of rubber domes.

>> No.54977863

>>54977811

MX browns are great. You're mad.

>> No.54977885

>>54977811
Well, I already have o-rings and I still don't like it. I guess I could just get some practice.

>browns suck
Haven't tried them so I suppose I would need to check them before buying. Maybe I'll order a bunch of different switches to try them out.

>> No.54977896

>>54977863
have you tried other switches?

>> No.54977921
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54977921

>>54977863
What other switches have you tried?

I had browns on my first board and thought that they feel amazing. And then I got a switch tester.

Next board had clears.

>> No.54978005

Are there switch testers that include also switches other than MX Cherry (and clones)?

>tfw typed "<" immediatly after "include"

>> No.54978014

>>54977863
MX Browns are shit. Feel like reds with dirt in them

>> No.54978017

>>54978005
coolermaster has topre

that's all you need to try really

>> No.54978041

>>54978005
https://shop.clueboard.co/LED-Switch-Tester.html

There's this thing here.

Like the other anon mentioned, cooler master has a tester with 45g Topre.

I've also seen all kinds of switch testers on taobao and the like.

>> No.54978099
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54978099

What the fuck is pic related? Any idea?

>> No.54978175

>>54978017
Oh, awesome!
20 euros for 6 keys though. At least the shipping is free.

>>54978041
That is also nice (especially since I could use some soldering practice) but I think I need to try that Topre.

Cheers!

>> No.54978190

>>54978099
Are you at the hatch?

>> No.54978236

>>54978099
Looks like a keyboard to me.

Ask whoever sent you that for the label on the back.

>> No.54978343
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54978343

>>54978190
>>54978236
It's on eBay and ends in 1 hour. The description is Bullshit and the Label doesn't say anything useful.

>> No.54978512

>>54978343

Black metal sheets on the back are a good sign. ALPS?

>> No.54978528

>>54977896

Lots.

>> No.54978569

>>54978512
Idk. http://www.ebay.de/itm/222137609176

>> No.54978727

Where the fuck did the numpad go on most of these?

>> No.54978734

>>54978727
DELETE THIS

>> No.54978738

>>54978727
numpads are pretty much useless

>> No.54978749

>>54978738
No.

>> No.54978776

>>54963976
kek

>> No.54978821

>>54978749
Yes

>> No.54978830

>>54978821
Maybe

>> No.54978848

>>54978830
Sometimes

>> No.54979076

>>54978738
The only use I can think of for a numpad is typing numbers with just one hand, but they should be on the left side since you the only time when you can't use both hands is when you're using mouse with (usually) the right hand.

There are so many wrong things about regular keyboards.

>> No.54979195

>>54979076
>>There are so many wrong things about regular keyboards
Please list all the things that are wrong with regular keyboards so I can think about incorporating fixes in future builds.

>> No.54979463

>>54978848

Rarely

>> No.54979725

>>54978738
Probably for unemployed video game faggots like yourself. I use my numpad every day at work.

>> No.54979735

i spilt coffee and now my right arrow key isnt working

how do i remedy this. it has dried out, it isnt sticky, and i have blown the shit out of it with my mouth and also a hairdryer

>> No.54979769

>>54979735
nvm was just hella sticky lol

>> No.54979825
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>>54979195
>unaligned rows that make you move all fingers to the sides
>unnecessary key blocks (most people don't even know what 'home' or 'end' do)
>numpad (if you need one) on the wrong side
>some keys are large for no reason (like spacebar in place of which you could place a few keys that you could press with thumbs)
>QWERTY layout by default

>>54973654 is what a good keyboard looks like
pic related is another good keyboard, even more expensive though (and that wooden case doesn't suit it at all imo)

>> No.54979865

Budget: 100€
Location: Europe
Switch Type: Cherry MX Blue
Layout: ANSI
Form Factor: 80%

>> No.54979870
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>> No.54979876

>>54979825
Gotcha. First step will be to build a planck and see how ortholinear suits me.

Though I'd imagine it makes sense to keep the modifiers a certain size for the sake of being easier to reach with your pinky.

>> No.54979903

>>54979876
Or better: put them under your thumb

>> No.54979907

>>54979825
There is literally nothing wrong with qwerty

>> No.54979932

>>54979907
what about all of the most used keys being placed as far away from eachother as possible

>> No.54979947

>>54979907
Is this a joke, bait or actually an opinion?

>> No.54979984
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54979984

>>54962750
What do you guys think of the https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/

>> No.54979992

>>54979984
Looks quite damn cool.

Now we'll just have to see if they deliver.

>> No.54980102

>>54979870

JUST

>> No.54980243
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54980243

Who?

>> No.54980340

>>54979947
Wait, is this a joke?

>> No.54980363

>>54980340
No.

>> No.54980378

>>54980243
ich

>> No.54980402

>>54979932
>>54979947
literally no proof any layout is better

>> No.54980440

>>54980402
>mkweb.bcgsc.ca/carpalx/?typing_effort
>http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/carpalx/?keyboard_layouts

Here is your reply.

>> No.54980445

>>54979932
Isn't that the point?

>> No.54980458

>>54980440
literally completely subjective

>> No.54980459

>>54979932
>>54980440
Timestamp your keyboard layout

>> No.54980463

>>54980378
Donnerwetter. Irgend eine Ahnung zu was das Teil gehört?

>> No.54980477

>>54980445
yes that was the point with the layout but it has no use when its not on a typewriter

>> No.54980493

>>54980458
Sorry, such a small bait doesn't deserve more replies.

>> No.54980514

>>54980493
Enjoy your placebo layout

>> No.54980520

>>54980440
so why does everyone in the high rankings use qwerty ????
http://10fastfingers.com/typing-test/english/top50
because it doesn't fucking matter you contrarian twat

>> No.54980534

>>54980459
would you not just believe me if i said i use qwerty?

>> No.54980545

>>54980534
Ha, thought so you twat.

>> No.54980612

>>54980545
I never said i used anything else. I was just acknowledging a flaw in my own layout.

>> No.54980694

>>54980463
Anscheinend n' commodore 64, irgendwo weiter oben hier sollte der link stehen

>> No.54980781

>>54980694
Steht in der Beschreibung, glaub ich aber nicht. Die Belegung passt nicht und ich bin mir jetzt nicht sicher, aber ich glaub der c64 hat keinen 9 poligen seriellen Anschluss... eine externe Tastatur für den c64 macht eigentlich auch keinen Sinn. Und der c128d hat auf jeden Fall einer anderen Anschluss.

>> No.54980875

>>54980612

only on /g/ would anyone be this bored

>> No.54980976

>>54980520
Perhaps because not even 1% of people use other layouts. You can type fast on QWERTY but it will cause much bigger stress on your fingers and alternative layouts are about being comfy.

Here is a more reliable list that uses an average over multiple runs: https://www.keyhero.com/topplayers/?page=1
Among the top 100 you can find 6 non-QWERTY users. The proportion is much higher than all non-QWERTY to QWERTY users. Limit to at least 20 games and you get 8 non-QWERTY. At least 50 and you get 9. At least 100 and you get 10. At least games 1000 and you get 17 non-QWERTY users in top 100.

Well, you could say that people that have more than 100 games are autists and autists are more likely to use an alternative layout, but I don't really care when I can access the most used letters without moving my fingers from the comfy home row.

Btw the user with the most games doesn't have information about the used layout, the second uses QWERTY and is followed by another QWERTY and one Colemak.

>>54980459
I'm the other anon you asked and I'm learning Colemak. Using regular QWERTY on main PC because I still type slowly in Colemak as I only recently got interested in comfiness.

>> No.54981051

>>54980976
QWERTY is good for generic english texts. But for other languages it's shit.
Wie würdest du schreiben, daß du ein süßes Mädchen beim Knödel essen gesehen hast?

>> No.54981089
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>>54981051
QWERTZ is für homos :^

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>>54981089
Nicht schwul.

>> No.54981289

speaking of QWERTY/QWERTZ,
what happens if set my lyout to ISO-QWERTZ when using an ANSI keyboard?

i guess the key above enter will become the key which is normally to the left of the iso enter?

and the key next to left shift will just go missing, is that right?

>> No.54981315

>>54981289
yes

>> No.54981317

>>54981289
You will miss one key: <>

>> No.54981355

>>54981219
hnng i love 4:3s

>> No.54981371

>>54964787
>cherry mx blues
>o-rings
just don't

>> No.54981381

>>54981355
Best for serious use.

>> No.54981400

How the fuck do you guys navigate text without arrow keys, home/end buttons and others?

>> No.54981421

>>54981400
they do have arrow keys but under a function layer

>> No.54981453

>>54976571
too bad keycool only produces with kailh switches now. even on massdrop the cherry option's been removed. i really wanted this keyboard too...

>> No.54981473
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54981473

Having pic related. Any idea how to use touchpad as scrollpad in linux?

>> No.54981492

>>54981473
lfs

>> No.54981511

>>54981453
oh, damn that sucks. an atlernative would be a custom from winkeyless. they arent that expensive if you buy the switches from somewhere else and do the soldering yourself

>> No.54981521

>>54979725
This. Mondays are my data entry days so I am fully reliant on my numpad, and it's really efficient. When I'm at home playing games, I never use it so I have a TKL at home.

>> No.54981571

>>54981492
Nah, Debian.

>> No.54981685

>>54981511
The soldering options means the soldering will be done for me? Not quite sure how this works outside the case is completely separate.

>> No.54981811

>>54981685
yes if you chose soldering that means the soldering will be done for you otherwise you just get the parts and solder them on yourself

>> No.54982033

>>54981811
wew boy that gets expensive. almost seems like it's less hassle to suffer kailh switches and just buy massdrop's keycool hero 84. but i dont want to give in. either that or make my friend do all the soldering for me. or try to figure it out myself and risk screwing it up and wasting my money.

>> No.54982086

>>54982033
yeah, if you do the soldering yourself its really cheap but the soldering costs really add up. I think letting your friend do it sounds like a really good idea, either that or just settling for a TKL

>> No.54982106

>>54982033
You could also get a keycool and solder in cherry switches.

>> No.54982173

>>54982106
*cough* gateron switches *cough*

>> No.54982200

Does anyone here own a model F?

>> No.54982289

>>54982173
Yeah I know, but anon absolutely wants cherry for some reason.

>> No.54982345

>>54982173
>>54982289
between us i actually do like gaterons better, especially blues. but i twitch stream now and the clicks are just unbearable. a lot of games im covering right now are very keyboard input-heavy, and even if the option is available i dislike using a controller. i dont want linear switches or browns, so im hinging on cherry mx clears. it's got a similar weight and feel to cherry mx blues tactility but without the click.

>> No.54982403

>>54982345
an option would be zealios but i think they are really expensive?

>> No.54982457

>>54982200
yep

>> No.54982509

>>54982200

quite a few, what about them?

>> No.54982522

>>54982345
>>54982403
you could also get gateron browns and put in a heavier spring

its really whatever though cherry switches are still good

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54982842

>>54982200
The trick is to use the box containing the soarer's converter to hide the big gash in the case's paint.

>> No.54983520

>>54981511
too bad the ducky air is missing the F-row, otherwise that would work.

>> No.54983617
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54983617

Have any of you guys heard about the Rantopad MXX? Tenkeyless, gateron blue switches. Is 47 GBP a good price for it? (60 EUR, 68 USD)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0186RTDZQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2N41JH1DAQZ7X

>> No.54983636

>>54980102
CLICK

>> No.54983667

>>54981219
cool soda

>> No.54983719

got my magicforce with gateron reds in the mail, gonna use it with blank caps. anyone have a suggestion what kind of sticker i could put over the ugly magicforce logo?

>> No.54983845
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>>54983719
:^

>> No.54983904
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54983904

>Sure, Ducky is quality they said, go for it
>No major problem with LEDs burning out they said
>buy a Ducky Shine 3 TKL
>3 months later, PageDown LED burnt out
>LOL just ship it to fucking Taiwan for repairs! :^)

i'll just pretend the LEDs don't exist I guess, they're fucking useless gaymur crap anyway, the keyboard itself is quite nice and I wouldn't want to be without it for the time it would take to ship across the fucking universe for repairs.

>> No.54984007

>>54983719
You could sand it down, fill it with something, then paint over it.

>> No.54984023

>>54983904
Just replace the led.

>> No.54984152

>>54980976
If you want to learn Colemak fast, you should use it exclusively at home. It will be really frustrating for the first few days, but then you learn the layout.

If you do this for a week, you should be up to ~40wpm. That's fast enough to get by on.

I hope that you don't have a job that requires you to use qwerty though. It took me like an hour to adapt when I got to work, and about an hour when I got home.

>> No.54984345

>>54982033
Also considering this

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1374

however, how do Greetech switches compare to Cherry MX? or are they at least better than Kailhs?

>> No.54984532
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54984532

took the win95 keys off my main board and threw them on my v60 where i put my old jp set
looks better than the stock jp set. the old alt keys were just a sun and i thought it looked sort of boring. the win95 keys make it look real aesthic

>> No.54984625

>>54984345
are you looking for just a 75% keyboard?
v60 makes a 60% with gaterons that are available for purchase on that site for the same price
i got one with yellows and they feel great

>> No.54984676
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54984676

>>54984532
AESTHETIC

>> No.54984690
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>>54984676
i love this thank you

>> No.54984728

>>54984532
What keycaps are those senpai?

>> No.54984739

>>54984728
pbt round 4 japanese kana keys

>> No.54984986

>>54984690
How did you post a blank picture?

>> No.54985009

>>54984986
But I see hearts and a window.

>> No.54985026
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54985026

>>54984986
its a secret

>> No.54985082

>>54982457
>>54982509
Can you guys post pics? Also the model number. I love me some sexy Model F's.

>> No.54985269

>>54973654
How is the ergodox? Been thinking of getting one but wasn't sure the $200 asking price was worth it. If it's worth it, i think i'll go for it next time it drops.

>> No.54985336
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54985336

I'm going to bring this over to a friend's house to corrupt his twins with.
I already gave them an old switch tester.
Ideally they'll try it and want to throw their HP keyboards out a window. :^)

>> No.54985649
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54985649

Anything wrong with a Ducky One as babbies first mechanical?

>> No.54985778

>>54984625
I am looking exclusively for a 75% keyboard. I was really hinging on the keycool 84 but I can't accept kailh switches. I'd opt for the Noppoo Choc mini but I'd rather deal with keycool's irregular right shift button than noppoo's irregular spacebar.

>> No.54985843

Is the keycool hero 84 a good key board? I looking for a small one but which has fonctions keys

>> No.54985858

>>54985649
Nope, ducky makes good keyboards

>> No.54986264

>>54985843
the white pbt keycaps feel amazing

its a nice keyboard too. i cant get used to the layout tho. maybe u will

>> No.54986696

About to pick up a Pok3r for my first 60% keyboard.
Am I going to regret this?

>> No.54986716
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>>54985843
i enjoy it, yeah
nonstandard bottom row means buying new keycaps is a lil annoying tho. but i don't have any intentions to; the stock pbt's are fucking fantastic

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>>54985649
nah man, you good.

>> No.54986877

>>54962955
>Glorious pc gaming race

I fucking died of cringe, are you 14?

Please be embarrassed to post this picture, God forbid a normal person walks in your room

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What's your thought on wireless keyboards, /g/?
When it comes to wireless mice and headphones, the wireless ones that have came out recently are just as good if not better than some wired ones out there. It's almost like they're not wireless at all.

I never hear a lot about wireless keyboards though. Can mechanical keyboards even be wireless?

>> No.54986914

>>54986264
>>54986716
Ok, thanks mates
Any other keyboard like this tho?

>> No.54986918

>>54986716
what switches do you have? also does anyone know how hard it is to swap out switches? im most likely going to throw whatever kailhs mine comes with away.

>> No.54986951

Serious question /g/:

Are there any mechanical keyboards that have cherry-mx clears, backlit, and come in full size or TKL?

The only clear keyboard with backlit I can think of off the top of my head is the pok3r.

Are there any even without backlit that at least come in TKL or full size?

>> No.54986957

>>54986910
My keyboard is stationary and I have good cable management so wireless is a moot point. I'd rather go wired so I don't have to charge or change the batteries on the thing.

>> No.54986970

>>54986951
CODE. KUL ES-87.

>> No.54987023

backlitLEDs are cool y/n

>> No.54987049

>>54986918
i have mx browns. fine as a starter switch i suppose, wouldn't get them again
i think you can get the board on massdrop right now, but only with kailhs lol
if you know how to solder, it shouldn't be too hard

>> No.54987281

>>54963229
What board is that?

>> No.54988178

Anyone tried the anne keyboards? I asked the seller and they're doing gateron reds as well (you have to leave a message to request for it). Got one myself, but will take a while for it to ship over.

>> No.54988650

Why do I make so many mistakes on browns?

>> No.54988709

>>54987281
Looks like a novatouch.

>> No.54989024

Ducky one vs CM Novatouch.
Thoughts? They're similarly priced where I live.

>> No.54989064

>>54989024
Depends on the switch you like more, of course. Tactile? Linear? Clicky? Heavy? Light?

>> No.54989125

>>54989064
Well, it was more in terms of build quality and such.
Currently own a shine 3 with blues. Should've gone for browns.

>> No.54989134

>>54962750
what this cell?

>> No.54989261

>>54989125
If you're considering browns, get the novatouch. Build quality wise, I think they're both solid boards.

>> No.54989303

>>54989024
>>54989125
Browns tend to disappoint. The Topre switches inside the Novatouch are usually closer to what people expect browns to be.
I'm personally not a big fan of backlighting, but they're both solid options.

>> No.54989419

As someone who's only owned a Microsoft Sidewinder X4, and is currently borrowing a Razer keyboard (not by choice...), what keyboard should I be looking for that doesn't have a number pad? I noticed the Keycool Hero 84 on massdrop, but all the comments there seem to be shitting on kailh switches. Is there something wrong with them besides being a knock off?

>> No.54989471

>>54989419

worst mx clones, buying from massdrop, and costing more than tons of other TKL/60% boards.

magicforce, zhuque and redragon are all better clone boards and can be bought on amazon

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