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Everything you like is a meme edition

>Buyer's template for the unenlightened:
Where to Buy:

You are new and want our advice? Use buyers template

Keyset wiki

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>> No.54661959

Thoughts on Royal Kludge?

>> No.54662289
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Need moar memes.

>> No.54662416

Ducky one for €140. Is it a good deal?

>> No.54662477

what is this form factor called/?

>> No.54662481

Noob here.

Those who have a 60% keyboard, do you miss having arrow keys?

I was thinking about getting a Vortex Pok3r (no arrow keys)


So I was thinking about the Leopold FC660 because it has arrow keys and a delete key



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>> No.54662523
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> There are people here who don't use a 2 split space-bar on cherry reds.

Just kys famalam.

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>do you miss having arrow keys?
the best set up for arrow keys i've found is the HHKB's

the pok3r is just arranged like complete garbage

>> No.54662627
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I used to be really into mechanical keyboards but now they interested me not. After you try blues, topre and buckling, you've kinda seen it all. The click/clack is a meme and any switch that intentionally keeps or adds it is a meme. Buckling spring is cool because it's just a side affect of the design and is necessary for operation. But cherry switches suck ass.

In my experience you need arrow keys if you aren't a complete fucking memer. It's one extra key to hold for arrow keys and that's one too many. I would also recommend a numpad but I haven't missed it as much as arrow keys.

So basically if you have extra money and like ricing your keyboard, go ahead. Otherwise I'd recommend picking up a Rosewill / Corsair mechanical or Apple Wired and call it a day.

>> No.54662634

Apologies for poor engrish

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Ordered these from china for my K70 I got in recently.

Why the fuck are they $15 for 125 "keyboard" o rings from wasd?

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high quality rubber formulated for keyboards
anything else will actually damage your keycaps and switches

>> No.54662678


Because you're gay

>> No.54662709

Who /reds/ here???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>> No.54662731

anyone know a cheap solid maybe no lights ps/2 keyboard available in australia? any switch type is fine
ducky USB meme is rather underwhelming and can't even enter altcodes since the numpad is a separate entity to windows

>> No.54662820

Can someone find me clear PBT Keycaps that is compatible with Corsair K70 RGB?

>> No.54663133
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Space invader switch master race. With the keycaps off you can actually see the two pieces of metal that touch to register a keystroke. You can even activate them with a paperclip if you want.

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i just made that up

>> No.54663339

>seen it all
you missed cherry ML

>> No.54663351 [DELETED] 

and alps

>> No.54663383

I've been thinking of getting a mechanical keyboard for a while, currently considering a unicomp because I leaned to type on buckling springs and it would be nice and nostalgic. but I've heard that blues are just as good. anyone have advice?

If I went with blues, then I could get a tenkeyless and rice the hell out of it. which do you guys recommend for that purpose?

>> No.54663391

What's the quietest type of mechanical keyboard?

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>> No.54663435


MX Blues are gross. They have the worst tactile/clicky design. Cherry utterly fails at tactile switches. Buckling springs are okay. ALPS are good. Montereys are good. Space invaders are good. Basically everything but MX Blues.

>> No.54663449


*clicky I meant not tactile in the third sentance

>> No.54663516


so the blues aren't really clicky like buckling springs are? I've never typed on cherry switches before, just springs and domes. what I want is that feedback you get when typing on an old model M, that cha-kung as you press down the key. it's so damn satisfying.

>> No.54663529

>what I want is that feedback you get when typing on an old model M, that cha-kung as you press down the key. it's so damn satisfying.
yeah well you'll probably have to buy a unicomp then
you could get a cherry switch tester to get a feel of what they're like

>> No.54663555

>2 key roll over
why don't those cunts just take the buckling spring keys and put them on a pcb that can do nkro?

>> No.54663564

because it's not a pcb

>> No.54663627


Yeh, definitely need buckling springs then if you want exactly that and aren't up for anything new. Why not just buy a used model M for $20? I've had like dozens. I usually find them around looking for other stuff and sell em for $20 on CL. I would sell you one of mine but I only have an ambra im keeping and a wheelwriter right now. The blues sure do click but they aren't very graceful or accurate. They do a silly little jig and it feels bad compared to any other switch really IMO. The buckling spring is really simple it is just a spring that buckles and activates when it buckles and puts the hammer down.

>> No.54663807

What is /mkg/'s opinion on Nan Tan? I found a KB-6651, it is obviously old but in decent condition.

>> No.54663979

Did you try any other tactile cherries other than blues?

>> No.54663988

Why doesn't anyone make smooth PBT caps? Can't think of a single set that's not textured.

>> No.54664002

tiny imperfections are more noticeable in a finish that's supposed to be perfectly smooth.
PBT shrinks pretty severely on cooling...

>> No.54664010

a) Model M is a membrane, Model F was PCB
b) USB doesn't have NKRO anyway

>> No.54664153
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why is /mkg/ so dead

>> No.54664166

why would you even want smooth pbt?
the reason to get pbt is to get a textured surface the doesn't shine

>> No.54664182

there hasn't really been anything new in a while.

>> No.54664536

Because mechanical keyboards are placebo

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Not enough people doing anything interesting that would foster discussion, and there hasn't been anything new and exciting in the mech market either.

Not that i mind the lack of activity that much, shitposting is lower than ever and the thread actually serves as a good hub of information and discussion, it's just that there's not that much of it.

>> No.54664731

>that picture
shit, now i want to do this.

>> No.54664830


Green and White

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Do it, just make sure to use some soft wood that's easy to work with and doesn't splinter all over the place. I went with maple.

Wood is cheap and easily available and it was only four hours of actual work to get it to pic related. Though having some power tools will make your life easier.

>> No.54664890


Tactile/Clicky switches I meant

>> No.54664912

i actually have all tools i need, I'll probably use pearwood, birch, applewood or cherrywood.
thinking about it cherry would be really nice just for the name.
maybe i have time in a few weeks.

>> No.54664938

to add to it, do you just put some low keyboard in there or do you plan on disassembling one you have and making it fit?

>> No.54664977


>$20 model M

if only that were realistic, anon. on ebay they're all like $50+ and there are none on craigslist in my state. I was in goodwill the other day and I asked if they ever get old keyboards, and the guy told me they go straight to ebay.

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Sounds nice, I'll still have to find some use for the second piece of wood.

Keep us posted.

Going to put this dampened cream alps 60% that I made quite some time ago in there.

Though I'll have to fix the wires at the bottom first, everything that's hooked up to the teensy is a huge clusterfuck that takes up far more space than it should, as you can probably guess by the offset in the upper left corner.

>> No.54665116

you desperately need an inexpensive mill. hot damn.

>> No.54665185

>you desperately need an inexpensive mill
Oh yes, a CNC machine would be wonderful.

Though I'm still far from having the money for that kind of money. Maybe the electrical engineering (also has general engineering) will have some equipment that students can use.

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polishing turds is cheap, it just requires a ton of time....
originally a $99 HF mill.

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i just wanted to tell you that it's hilarious how english works and leave this here.

>> No.54665250

That doesn't look very ergonomic

>> No.54665295

The peasants spoke Germanic dialects, the royals spoke French, the clergy spoke Latin, the barbarians spoke Gaelic, and the fucking Nords invaded on a regular basis. It's all you need to know.

>> No.54665315

Interesting. Thanks a lot for letting me know, googling around it does indeed look like there a whole lot of not all to expensive CNC options around which don't take up all too much space either. I'll keep it in mind for when it actually becomes a viable option.

Yeah, this kind of shit doesn't make looking for equipment locally any easier.

>> No.54665426

shitposting on motospeed inflictor, blues are too damn satisfying

>> No.54665761

thoughts http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Multicolor-Keyboard-SGB-3020-KKMF1-US/dp/B00N93K5I2
i am on a tight budget

>> No.54665818

>ricer gaymen shit
wew. there is better stuff in that range.
do you know what kind of switches you like yet? what kind of keyboard? 60%? 75?

>> No.54665841


Greens are closer to buckling. Still not a perfect match though.

Blues are way to light.

>> No.54665873

not really, right now i am using a wireless rapoo keyboard who does just fine i am not really picky about the keyboard

>> No.54665886

forgot to say that the size doesn't matter

>> No.54665895


I was shocked at the lack of shitposting over the new HHKB BT.

Kindas eems to be proof most HHKB users just fell for the meme and don't really care about mechanical keyboards.

>> No.54665914

If that's what you're looking for, then it's probably quite ok. But it's not mechanical if that's what you're asking.

>> No.54665929

i really recommend testing a few switches before settling on anything. do you have a store near you with different keyboards to test out? for that price i'd go for a cherry g84 but that's just me.

>> No.54665958

How much is a difference between 45g topre and 55? Are there any 55g topre tkl?

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HHKB shitposting has died down in general and people here don't really care a whole lot for bluetooth keyboards in general, so I'm not sure why'd you expect any significant amount of shitposting in regards to the same old HHKB with an ugly bulge in the back.

>and don't really care about mechanical keyboards
heh, you're a funny one

>> No.54665996

i could test some keys and thanks for the tip also do you know decent mouse that is kind a cheap?
i know it's not mechanical but well this is the only decent keyboard thread on /g/ but still thanks for your opinion

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what is kind of cheap for you? how do you hold your mouse? do you like trackballs? vertical mice? "normal" mice?
check out the information at the bottom of http://www.logicalincrements.com/mouse
they also have some information on keyboards.

>> No.54666389


55g feels significantly more snappier

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About the start rebinding my keys, hoping to move caps lock to somewhere out the way and replace it with super and move the arrow keys to somewhere less painful to reach.

>> No.54667655

Can anybody explain this ultra-gay keys-crammed-together tenkeyless bullshit to me?

Almost all the keyboard posted here are minis.

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>> No.54668241

ideally your hands are parallel to your shoulders, for people that use the mouse as much or more as the keyboard tenkeyless makes more sense. also on a lot of keyboards you can set the numpad keys to other ones with some combination so you are really not missing anything.

>> No.54668654

can you not move it to wherever?

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posting to make this a little less dead

>> No.54668926

A 60% has all the keys I use, right where I use them. I don't anything else. Plus they look better which makes me happy.

>> No.54669012

So you need arrows and a numpad. I don't. Your experiences aren't the gold standard.

>> No.54669023

I don't miss my arrows keys. But you might. Just keep an eye on how you use your computer.

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F122 all clean now

>> No.54669095

Why would you have this? And i don't mean U CANT WRITE but it's so ugly and plain looking. Nothing's on it.

>> No.54669125

What, is minimalism beneath respectable gentlemen of taste such as yourself?

>> No.54669226

I mostly hate minimalism. Especially where it doesn't fit, like on keyboards. They are by default very non-minimal. They have dozens of separate elements, even if they are uniformed. And then you force minimalism by removing functional writing on them. But what you get at the end is not minimal, but bland.

>> No.54669284

>They are by default very non-minimal.
I'm inclined to agree, but the blank look is simply cleaner.

>Force minimalism
I'm not going to pretend to know what this means.

>> No.54669480

It's hard to find ISO sets, especially when it comes to high quality ones. Finding one with the right legends for a certain language is even worse.
The solution for a touch typist is simple - ditch the legends you don't need and keep the key layout that's been imprinted into your brain since childhood.

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So I ordered a magicforce with black switches because my noppo choc died and it was all I can afford right now. I think it's a gorgeous keyboard.

In the future I plan on replacing the keycaps and possibly some other mods. What is a good source of information for the different o rings? They're cheap and I'm interested in ordering some

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Debating getting a royal kludge sometime. Also any new snazzy keycaps I should care about?

>> No.54669708

Anyone here built their own keyboard? I'm toying with the idea, but I wouldn't know what to do about the controller for it. Any idea what to use, and would general keyboard drivers accommodate for it or would I have to write my own?

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Yes, hello there.

As a controller you use a teensy 2.0.

You need a plate, switches a case and keycaps. Either you design your own pcb or you wire it by hand.

TMK firmware for all your firmware needs (matt3o has a guide on deskthority, it's quite straighforward business).

I don't think drivers would be any kind of issue, haven't had any myself.

>> No.54669888

Oh brill. So when you soldered your keyboard together, setup the firmware (did you hit any snags or did it go smoothly), it all worked fairly okay? Have you tried it on multiple systems? I see it's fine on Linux (which is good), you tried it on Windows?

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Considering that it was the first time I even dealt with code directly in my life outside of the terminal, I'd say it went quite well.

I was slow as shit in understanding what I'm supposed to do when reading the instructions, and I had to redo some minimal parts of the wiring around the arrow keys since I had it set up in a rather stupid manner at the start.

Firmware-wise it's really simple, I'd say that the largest potential for things being a pain lies in fitting the keymap to your hardware, but there wasn't anything I couldn't solve by just taking a proper look at either the hardware configuration or the code.

It may feel like you have no idea what you're doing at first (at least that's how I felt), but once you start getting knees deep into setting up your firmware you start to understand things quite quickly.

>> No.54670143

Last round of questions:
How much did the whole thing cost in the end (roughly if you can't remember) - I'm a britbong, so getting ahold of parts will be through ebay alone, making the cost of the project slightly higher, I should imagine.
I plan on making mine an split ergonomic layout, did you design the plans yourself, or did you get yours from somewhere?

>> No.54670212

I have several of this keyboard. It is very good

>> No.54670329

Is that with shipping? I got my Ducky One for $104 USD. I'd say its not a good deal unless its the shipping thats fucking you in the ass.

>> No.54670395

Because anyone who cared about BT could install a third party BT controller for it anyway.

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Post 122s

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The magicforce keyboard (one from previous pictures) was about 50 bucks.
Teensy another 20.
Had wires and diodes, but both of those things are quite cheap anyway.
I used gaterons on this one, got them from massdrop for something around 24 bucks for 120 switches, price will vary depending on your choice and source of switches.

As for pic related:
20 bucks for the plate (the design was made by a guy in sweden who did a similar thing already) who was so friendly to have it laser cut and send it to me.
20 bucks teensy
Again wires and diodes.
14 bucks for the piece of wood that is now being shaped into the case.
Keycaps and switches were harvested from an old AEK II that I got for free.

I'm also planning to build a split keyboard (UHK style) with RGB underlighting, but I want to design my own PCB, plate and case for that, so I'm holding that off until I'm in my electrical engineering internship later this year and I have the money to afford all that jack.

For plate designs, there's this handy tool, though I didn't ever use it myself

>> No.54670536

Why do you want to put o rings on black switches?

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You're a sweetheart anon

>> No.54670580

You're welcome. Keep us posted on your project, more interesting DIY is always good.

>> No.54670603

I want to buy an Ergodox, but am in Europe and don't want to pay customs fees. What's the recommended parts reseller?

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So I hear that a version of this Rosewill would have problems with the microUSB port in the back snapping off the PCB inside the keyboard. How do I tell if this is the old version or the improved version?

>> No.54671208

I'm also interested in making my own keyboard. But I have a question here.

I really want to use Matias switches and I'd love to add leds, it's really hard to find ALPS backlit keycaps? it's impossible to find them? I tried googling around and no luck.

>> No.54671401

>ALPS backlit keycaps?
Good luck with that.

Matias switches do have translucent cases, so you could more or less mount an SMD led under them, but I've yet to see a board with matias switches that actually has backlighting.

Not to mention keycaps that allow for backlighting. You could have an underglow, but good luck finding something with alps stems and backlit legends.

>> No.54671466

The original RK-9000 had that issue, and only the earlier ones. A v2 should be fine. I have an RK-9000 and it's just fine, so I'm pretty sure you're golden.

>> No.54671729

Ahh, thanks. I just ordered it!

>> No.54671804
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If you were to paint plastic(does the kind of plastic matter) what kind of paint and or primer would you use? I intend on painting the case of a KB and a Logitech g303 matte white. Not sure how to proceed. I was thinking about using Krylon Fusion?

pic related

>> No.54671938

Cherry MX Reds Silent© with O-Rings

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>tfw my gaterons came but my soldering station is weeks late

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I need to get my Model F working on modern shit already. It's an EMR, so the cable is thick and shielded. It's partially broken at the connector, but that's okay because I need to replace it anyway. Trouble is, I don't know how I should go about attaching the soarer's converter. Maybe just cut the DIN plug off, wire it up to a pro micro clone (I have one on hand), and enclose the board in some kind of little plastic box with the female microUSB puking out? Then I'd have to get another microusb cable, and having two cables chained together seems excessive. That said, I think the heavy-duty cable is part of the uniqueness of this board, so I don't want to get rid of it.

Any suggestions?

>> No.54672558

>wire it up to a pro micro clone (I have one on hand), and enclose the board in some kind of little plastic box with the female microUSB puking out
That's how I do mine, although the USB cable goes into the box so that it never gets accidentally pulled out.

>> No.54672630

>although the USB cable goes into the box so that it never gets accidentally pulled out.
That's a concern I have, yeah - not just on the pro micro, but on the computer's USB A port too (this cable ain't no lightweight).

Do you know what box you used?

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Just some random plastic 4-piece project box from a local electronics store.

>> No.54672746

i'm really happy with my mx brown fullsize (prefer browns over blues a lot, partly for the lightness) and about to order my new pok3r with browns.

i know hating on browns is a meme on here but i'm still afraid on missing out on clears, but there is no way i will like them if i'm into light switches, right?

>> No.54672915

Oh, that looks pretty nice.

>> No.54673176

>there is no way i will like them if i'm into light switches
If blues were already too heavy for you, then yes, I'd suggest against clears (even though they're far more tactile).

Though if you want something light that's different from browns, I'd very much suggest reds. I didn't think I'd like linears at all until I actually typed on them on a proper keyboard.

>> No.54673296

Reliable site where I can order a 10 keyless model m like that? Doesn't even have to be IBM, just mechanical and retro. That's more or less my ideal keyboard

>> No.54673406
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I know it's (probably?) not a mechanical but I thought maybe you guys can identify this keyboard for me please?

>> No.54673485

I wonder if cooler master stole the layout from this keyboard or if this keyboard stole the layout from cooler master.

I'm quite certain that thing isn't mechanical.

>> No.54673505

>I wonder if cooler master stole the layout from this keyboard or if this keyboard stole the layout from cooler master.
I wonder if you think before you write out your posts.

>> No.54673527

what's that layout called?
I like it

>> No.54673605

>I wonder if you think before you write out your posts
I try to avoid reading my own posts as much as I try to avoid thinking. Works quite well.

Doesn't have a particular name, it's basically 60% plus TK, or as I like to call it 60%/TK

>> No.54673638

It has a top function row, so it can't be a 60%.

>> No.54673657
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>$37.99 with Prime shipping
>n-key rollover
>standard ANSI TKL layout
>Outemu Blue switches (60g clicky)

Where were you when mechanical keyboards became affordable?

>> No.54673664

True, I didn't think of that.

I guess you could consider it some kind of 75%/TK combo

>> No.54673683

75% would mean that it has dedicated navigation keys not on a numpad.

>> No.54673692

But I'm honestly about to pick one up. Since I traded my MX Green board, I don't have a clickly mech. I'll probably put my while ABS doubleshots on it with o-rings.

>> No.54673698

That's why I'm referring to it as a combo of the two. The navigation keys are on the arrow key layer of the numpad.

>> No.54673702

what's wrong with this?
how can it be this cheap?

>> No.54673715

I don't know what part of "not on a numpad" is confusing.

>> No.54673748

The stock keycaps seem to be pretty cheap, but otherwise, it just looks like a prime example of CSG tech.

http://www.amazon .com/TOMOKO-Water-Resistant-Mechanical-Keyboard-Anti-ghosting/dp/B01DBJTZU2/

>> No.54673757

>75%/TK combo
He said TK not to be confused with TKL.

>> No.54673762

I know what he said.

>> No.54673765

I don't know which part of "combo" as in "combination" is confusing.

>> No.54673801

Here's an example of a 75%: >>54668692

To add on a numpad to it would be a different layout than >>54673406, ISO vs. ANSI notwithstanding.

>> No.54673836

That's exactly what I mean with combo. It's a combination of the numpad block and the arrow/navigation keys. That's why they're both in the same block of keys, because you combine them.

>> No.54673851

>Went to a local Staples and tried their mechanical keyboards on display
>It was the worst feeling of my life
>Yes, one of them had blue switches. It was the worst of all of them.

What is wrong with you guys? Suction cups with deep keys is a thousand times better and cheaper.

>> No.54673879

Might as well call it a TKL + TK combo for all the sense that makes.

>> No.54673925

>What is wrong with you guys?
a lot

>Suction cups with deep keys is a thousand times better and cheaper.
not the good ones

>> No.54673931

>don't like things i don't like
it's okay to not like things, just don't be a dick about it.

>> No.54673965

I'm not trying to be a dick, I swear. It's just I almost fell for the mechanical keyboard meme a few days ago by purchasing one on Amazon because I keep hearing about how superior it is, and now I realize what I saved myself from. What do you guys find in this that is worth all that money?

>> No.54673968

I really hate blues, but typing on them is fun.

>> No.54673970

They feel nice to use.

>> No.54674222

how much are this worth? I saw one on a fleamarket nearby, it was being sold for 3 eur, almost buyed, but don't really need it, so I didn't.

>> No.54674249

i like the feedback i get from them. it just feels nice and sounds relaxing.

>> No.54674307

Maybe the brands on display were bad? Are razers really shitty mechanical keyboards or is that just a meme? The one with the blue switches was another gaming brand I don't remember, and I felt no feedback whatsoever.

>> No.54674376

i am probably the only person here that uses and likes cherry ML on a cherry keyboard, people tend to like different things. i don't like the gaming brand keyboards i tested either, the business ones always felt more compelling.

>> No.54674494

Well if black switches really feel like old timey computers, registers and stuff, I can kind of imagine them being worth it.

>> No.54674685
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WIP of a wrist rest a friend is making for me

>> No.54675176

Nice, what kind of tools did he use for that?

>> No.54675282

>this is a WIP

Does he intend to paint it? Maybe engrave some historical figures?

>> No.54675320

TFW waiting for planck

TFW want to start wooden wristrest company in the meantime.

>> No.54675443
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>> No.54675512

paid less than 1$ for 200 oring shipped few month ago on aliexpress

>> No.54675630

it still needs to be oiled which is gonna change the color a lot, i.e. make it darker
i'm not sure, he said he was gonna do the top curvature with a hand sliver, but maybe he ended up using a machine, i will ask him when i meet him

>> No.54675648


>> No.54675904


from left to right: $250, $150, $70, $40

>> No.54676129

What's the one on the left?

>> No.54677142


it's a chinese/english model f multistation with light green alps and a working speaker.

also have a similar one with brown alps, but it's in pretty rough shape.

>> No.54677177

Unicomp model m arrived

>> No.54677260

>his form facto

>> No.54677321

Shit anon,you need to do that whit a router

>> No.54677444
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There is literally nothing wrong with a grown man purchasing a backlit keyboard.

>> No.54677493

dubs confirms. trips makes it a certainty.
>the combination of both makes it an /mkg/ law

>> No.54677527

I'm building a gh60, should I use gateron blacks or browns?

>> No.54677539
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grow up kid

>> No.54677540


>> No.54677552

Neither. You should stop letting Gateron shills influence your purchasing decision.

>> No.54677560

Browns, they aren't as shit as MX browns.

>> No.54677561

Get a datalux spacesaver

>> No.54677583

Wow, a piece of wood

>> No.54677594

What would be the best 'general purpose' switch type? I'm new to mechanical keyboards, never really invested in a good keyboard before. Tried to do research on switch types but found like a gazillion different ones, so I can't really say what to buy. I also like to assign all of my stuff to hotkeys, so I prefer something with a bit more actuation force so I don't end up pressing things by mistake.

>> No.54677600

FC660C is the one you really want

>> No.54677610

>What would be the best 'general purpose' switch type?
blue or brown

>> No.54677641
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black widow or apex 350

>> No.54677701

>What would be the best 'general purpose' switch type?
Whatever you like best for general purpose. It's subjective. Go to a local B&M and try out different keyboards.

>> No.54677712


>> No.54677734

>Whatever you like best for general purpose.

Typing, browsing the interwebs, shitposting. Really that's what I do 90% of the time. I play space commander occasionally with my lads, but that's like the only gaming I ever do.

>Go to a local B&M and try out different keyboards.

I feel like that would look awkward as heck and I'd rather not.

>> No.54677748

>Typing, browsing the interwebs, shitposting.
blue or brown

>> No.54677767

>I feel like that would look awkward as heck and I'd rather not.
Do you have crippling anxiety? That's what the keyboards are there for.

>> No.54677800

Mini keyboards are a meme, you are all making your own lives harder by missing out on the best tools for the job. Stay shit you pretentious faggots.

>> No.54677841
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you seem unreasonably upset about this

>> No.54677860

you aren't wrong.

>> No.54677931

>When you have a mechanical but your desk is too tall to make typing feel good

>> No.54678134

A fucked up shoulder makes my life harder.

>> No.54678155

Get a keyboard tray.

>> No.54678285

I work as a contractor. I am in a new hotel usually twice a week and I fly constantly.

lugging around a full keyboard is a nuisance

>> No.54678379


It's okay all the mechanicals at staples are trash anyways.

>> No.54678530

I guess if you are a small person this might make sense. If my stuff is set up in that fashion I feel like my pecs are flexed at all times. Very uncomfortable.

This is a legitimate case in my opinion.

>> No.54678977

What difference does it make how big the keyboard is in that case? Even with a beyond-fullsize keyboard, the home row is still in the same spot.

>> No.54679006

has anyone bought granite key caps from taobao?

>> No.54679911

Anyone want to share their thoughts on the Rosewill RK 9000 & the Cooler Master Quickfire Rapid?

>> No.54679974

Using my mouse isn't comfortable when I have to stick my arm out so far from my center.

>> No.54680014

Why leave your room?

>> No.54680035
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I want to enter the world of mechanical keyboards I'm currently using a Dell... whats a good price keyboard to replace this poor aging keyboard.

>> No.54680360

Depends entirely on your budget. My first mechanical keyboard was the cherry g80 with blues. Perfectly acceptable, a bit cheap on the build quality but very nice to use. A leap from the crap I used before. I later found a model M in the University tech bin, and happily switched over.

Get what you can reasonably afford, but do research on your switches prior to making your decision.

>> No.54680376

Yes. Instead he should be objecting to the pretentious waste of good wood.

>> No.54680385

Only if you're under 30 and went to a public school.

>> No.54680617
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I am 5'2 sized grill and I use a full sized Model M, kys tbqh senpai

>> No.54680620
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just got this from my local flea market, MX browns + trackball

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>> No.54681069

>wasting wood
>renewable resource

That is like saying someone wasted their money.

>> No.54681202

Why is there a different switch just for the spacebar?

>> No.54681348

that's a tactile mx grey switch (which is as far as i know a mx clear switch with heavier spring)
apparently in some boards those were used for just the spacebar

>> No.54681364


nice ass

>> No.54681441

I have a laptop as my main, should I buy a $200 meme keyboard?

>> No.54681507
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Next to noone sells ISO nordic keycaps.
It's horrible.

>> No.54681791

you could just get blanks or get blanks in cherry profile + alphas from an old cherry g80 / g81

>> No.54681995

Signature Plastic's sets usually offer kits that include Nordic support, but it gets pretty expensive. At least €100.
Jukebox and Royal Navy are the group buys open right now.

The market for PBT dye subs with ISO is growing, and dye subbing is basically just a printing method with excellent results. This allows vendors to offer a lot of choices for legends.
IMSTO closed a group buy about a month ago with decently thick keycaps and the Nordic languages available as separate (!) layout options for about €65.
I would be surprised if we didn't see something like it become available again sometime during/after summer.

Mechanical keyboards are a niche market. Then there's a small segment of that market that buys keycaps. This means that products rarely stay up long since group buys end and good shit becomes sold out. You might have to wait for products while monitoring keyboard forums and vendors known to offer ISO.

>> No.54682179

Are IBM Model F and M keycaps compatible?

>> No.54682733


Most of them are, as long as they're buckling spring.

Mixing single and two piece caps can look kind of weird spacing-wise though

>> No.54683538

Has anyone here ever tried romer g switches? How do they compare against cherry mx?

>> No.54683588
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Tried them in a store, they felt like a slider over rubber.

Not a slider over a rubber dome. Just a slider over a somewhat bouncy piece of rubber. Not really the most amazing feeling ever.

>> No.54683649

Is there a good mechanical keyboard for 70€ i have a low budget.

>> No.54683660

To make it heavier.

>> No.54683668

Magicforce 68
Noopoo choc mini
Rosewill RK-9000
Motospeed inflictor

>> No.54683674

Wonder if they'd be much better without the o-rings (I doubt it).

>> No.54683682
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How is this? Is it shit?

>> No.54683689

They don't have MX-style stems, so you'd need some really special o-rings in order to make that work.

It looks really good so far, though we'll ultimately find out once it's actually available.

>> No.54683702


waaaaay overpriced when there's kinesis and ergodox boards for half price or less.

>> No.54683744

>They don't have MX-style stems, so you'd need some really special o-rings in order to make that work.
Oh, I recall someone saying they had o-rings like the G710+. Looked up ripster's teardown and it looks like it's mushy for the same reason people call cherry stabs mushy.

>> No.54683764

Thx for the reply the motospeed seems quite nice.

>> No.54683794
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Is this a Lexmark circa 1996 Japananese keyboard?

>> No.54683886

I just got a keyboard with matias click switches. They blow away shit like mx blues and clears, the feel is so satisfying.

I wish I knew about them sooner, only downside is hard to find pbt keycaps.

>> No.54684179

Idk, they kinda look gimmicky. How do they feel compared to cherry?

>> No.54684247

They feel much more tactile than any cherry. Actuates very near the top with a stronger click. Cherries feel linear in comparison.

>> No.54684311


they are gimmicky, just get a cheap white or orange alps board instead

>> No.54684636

What "gimmick" is there? They're clones.

>> No.54684773
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new setup

>> No.54684885

1. Your wrist rest if a bit small

2. Why the hell is your monitor angled like that

>> No.54685169

1. it's a 60% rest for my pok3r which is in the mail
2. i'm a big guy

>> No.54685201

1. How big are you?

2. The keys on 60% keyboards are closer together thus making them unsuited for people with large hands

>> No.54685635
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What is better, browns or clears?

This might be obscure, but where can I get a tenkeyless board with clears switches and DSA keycaps?

>> No.54685659


Nowhere, you buy a TKL with clears and get some DSA caps.

>> No.54685678

>The keys on 60% keyboards are closer together thus making them unsuited for people with large hands
nigga, you dumb?

>> No.54685696

I'm joking anon, I was quoting some guy from a few months ago who was vehemently defending his choice of purchasing a full-sized corsair.

>> No.54685801

where is there a not $300 version of this.

>> No.54685821
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What are you guys waiting for? I'm waiting for a Canon Typewriter with (hopefully) Alps SA keycaps and some tactile Alps, also a Sharp one with green Alps.
Pic semi related, mine has german keycaps.

Oh, sorry then.

>> No.54685924

>where is there a not $300 version of this

You must've not been looking very hard

>> No.54686317

are clears considerably heavier than blues?

>> No.54686380

They have the same weight in terms of actuation force, but once you pass that the weight rapidly goes up, bottoming out at almost 100g.

>> No.54686521

so holding down a modifier key for an extended period of time sounds like it would be straining for the hands

>> No.54686565

Pretty much, yes. Though I couldn't tell you how straining it would be. I played FPS which required me to keep the shift key pressed a lot in-game on a keyboard with clears, and it took me a good two month to develop pains in my arm, and I was playing for at least an hour a day.

Though replacing the clear switch with a black one took enough strain from my pinky to alleviate the arm strain quite a bit.

>> No.54686667
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Finally bought a IBM Model M.
Paid 50€ for it. Looks pretty much new.
God damn this thing is heavy.
Feels amazing to type on.


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>> No.54687602

model number ?

>> No.54687734
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>> No.54687985
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Have I fallen for a meme or is this mech keyboard good? It's my first one; got it for £45. CM Storm Quick Fire XT W/ red switches.

>> No.54688013

Reds are a meme switch.

>> No.54688031

Tulip with white alps and doubleshoot keycaps

>> No.54688050

Options were red, blue or brown and I want it for gaming. I was told reds were the best for this.

>> No.54688061

just ended linear-modding my dell at101
smooth as fuck, but i'm not liking the linear feeling

>> No.54688101


>> No.54688256

Logitech G610 Orion Red or Daskeyboard S Professional?

>> No.54688294

Personally I'd say the Logitech purely for aesthetic reasons.

>> No.54688536

Just preorded some Purple Zealio Switches for my planck. Am pretty hyped!

>> No.54688586

Reds are perfectly fine, the keyboard itself is quite ok. Not the most amazing in terms of build quality, not exactly terrible either. My biggest gripe with it is the absolutely retarded bottom row. Not bad for a first mech at that price point.

>> No.54688599

Nice choice, I was thinking of getting these.

>> No.54688623

Yeah I was hoping to get the keys the same size so I could change the caps. Oh well, it was cheap and I don't expect it to survive a nuclear blast anyway.

>> No.54688707
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Has there been a switch poll recently?

>> No.54688724

Yeah. The Planck was my first mkg and i choosed mx clears. But they feel somehow 'dumb'. I have the feeling that i am typing on some wet paper (a little bit like cherry my keys). Anyway i use too much force and it seems like this causes pains in my ankles.

>> No.54688728

>no gateron or zealios
>no buckling spring
terrible poll desu

>> No.54688808

>no low profile switches
>no way to add switches
please redo this.

>> No.54688817

That model is a membrane board.

>> No.54688824

nice meme

>> No.54688848

>no space invaders

>> No.54688850

nice meme

>> No.54688886

nice meme

>> No.54688964

nice meme

>> No.54689025

i don't know who voted mx blue but i will find you and i will pity you

>> No.54689029
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It'd be nice to have a keyboard with nice punch when typing again. But I don't know how I'd fare without having my fourth modifier key (function, control, alt, super).

I've set up my computer with a wide-range of custom shortcuts and don't want to have to change my workflow.

Anybody know of any mechanicals with that setup?

>> No.54689053

nice meme

>> No.54689100

help me /mkg/ for i have sinned

i bought a blackwidow ultimate with blues some years ago because my friend had one and for me that was apparently sound logic

this thing is a pile of meme shit

some history: my favorite keyboard ever was the logitech internet navigator. the white one that's in counter-strike for some reason. where can i get something like that again?

>> No.54689399

What did you like/dislike about either keyboard?

>> No.54689425

honestly i probably just miss the internet navigator out of pure nostalgia

but the razer has this ugly piano black material that picks up every bit of everything ever and the keys have started repeating themselves, giving me two or three characters for a single push. also mx blues are loud as hell. i'd much rather browns or something else quiet.

>> No.54689700

There are a ton of options, just stay away from the "gaming" brands. If you want the quietest switch, matias quiet clicks are great.

>> No.54689703
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>> No.54690807

wow what keyset is that?

>> No.54690924


Don't tell anyone I said that.

>> No.54691435

110 € max
>Location (continent at least)
>Preferred switch type
brown or black since im not sure because most people say browns are shit
either is fine
>Form factor
full but also fine with TKL
either is fine
>Previous/current keyboards
no previous mechanical keyboards

>> No.54691742


>> No.54692035

no filco's for my budget in the shops i've lookes
only m2s

>> No.54692455

And then we spread the disease all over the world. I'm sorry. I'm sure someone will find a way to blame the French/Irish/German/etc.

>> No.54692511

Where did you get it for that price?

>> No.54692548

portuguese second hand website

>> No.54692635

I can never find any good deals in the UK

>> No.54692764
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What are some layouts that are compact but still feature a numpad?

I'm thinking of making something like this but I want some ideas.

>> No.54692989

I would like a TKL with the numpad on the right.

>> No.54694475
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what kind of connector is this, and is there any way to get it to work through usb?
on an apple extended keyboard 2

>> No.54694502

it's ADB
and you'll need an adapter like this

>> No.54694565


I tried out the G810 and bought it. Much more satisfying feel than Cherry switches, unless you need the clicking sound.

>> No.54694655

oooh i like this and in my price range. will book mark

>> No.54694674
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You kids and your new fangled meme keyboards.


>> No.54694684

thanks very much family!

>> No.54694685
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IIgs keyboard, real Alps switches too.

>> No.54694701
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Actually this shot is of a prototype, the real board looks like this:

>> No.54694744

That looks over engineered as fuck.

>> No.54694780

what are numberpads for?

>> No.54694897

I wish companies tried to make silent switches more. There is one for cherry, but it's only based on red and black. Hearing a keyboard go click clack constantly honestly isn't pleasant, and I have no idea why do some people like it that way.

>> No.54694922
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Feeding numeric input to the stack.

>> No.54694942

You should try matias quiet click.

>> No.54694966

>we tried to imitate alps as much as possible, because we're big fans of alps

I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing really.

>> No.54695010
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Good question anon.

>> No.54695045

>not finding clicks and clacks pleasant

>> No.54695115

It's fun hearing it for the first time, but hearing CLICK CLACK TICK CLACK every single time I'm on my PC drones on my sanity, like a really sharp pair of nails grinding on a white chalkboard. It's highly unpleasant, though I get the 'vintage appeal' of it.

>> No.54695327

I like the mechanical feel and sound. Like having a mechanical watch.

>> No.54695382

alps is way better feeling than cherry generally.

>> No.54695763

Why are topre keyboards so expensive compared to every other switch type out there?

>> No.54695779

Limited availability.

>> No.54695816


Yeah it's fun for a while then it gets annoying. I thought Browns were too loud... So I now have a Logitech G810 and if this doesn't work out I will go back to chiclets and free myself of memes.

>> No.54695818

Because they can get away with it. But I guess that's changing, novatouches are priced slightly more reasonably.

>> No.54695846

I see, thanks. How do topre switches feel compared to others? Never managed to use one because of the insane pricing on them.

>> No.54696068

like a really good rubber dome

>> No.54696348
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Not my pic, but I recently picked up one of these, my boss was going to throw it out. Did I do good?

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>> No.54696577

That board will happily endure a go through the dishwasher anon, just don't put detergent in and let it dry out really well afterward.

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