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Retro edition.


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>> No.53591108
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in

>> No.53591218

>>53591108
Thank god, I didntt want to bump myself.

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>>53591218
nobody's here :^

>> No.53591473

Got my Model M for $3 and a small stack of unused black AT101Ws for $3-6 apiece. I'm pretty much set for life on the keyboard thing.

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>>53591108
I didn't think you'd actually get one of those when you asked me how many meme points they're worth.

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>> No.53591693
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Phase one of my small DIY project done.
All switches desoldered in less than 2 hours, not bad for a rookie i guess.

So far 1 switch destroyed because i was curious how does it look like inside and bent metal leaves too much. And 2 more stems broken during the keycaps removal, even using the wire puller.

Are these alps so squishy or am I a fucking troglodyte?

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>>53591681
you don't understand how bad with money i am

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>>53591693
Feel quite damn nice imo

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>>53591740
can't wait to get a nice job with a nice salary and blow all my money on taiwanese hookers

>> No.53592293

>>53591681
>literally reposting the same image every thread.

>> No.53592356

>>53591928
I didn't mean the keystroke feeling but stem durability, as i fucked up two using dedicated keycap puller.
Won't use all switches but still feels bad.

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>>53592293
I know what you want.

>> No.53592638

>>53592582
do you have to hide these things when you have people over

>> No.53592669

>>53592638
>/g/
>people over
forty keks.

>> No.53592725

Who wants keyboard with 4mm key travel? Is there any good scissor switch keyboards out there?

>> No.53592739

>>53592725
Who travels for the full 4mm?

>> No.53592999
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53592999

My contribution. My Corsair Strafe with Cherry MX Reds.

>> No.53593186

anyone know where I can get a cool planetary keycap set on the low low?

>> No.53593197

Why are greens so rare when they're the best cherry switch?

>> No.53593232

>>53593197
because that's your opinion

>> No.53593291
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>current year
>his keyboard isn't cute

what's stopping you anon?

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>>53593291
you :^)

>> No.53593388

>>53593291
when I move into my seattle apartment with my cushy job i'm gon make the cutest as fuck setup

>> No.53593496

i want to get a TKL board and some nice caps, but how do i legitimize buying another board if i'm getting the same switches as my full sized?

>> No.53593532

>>53593496
Get something better-built, maybe?

>> No.53593593
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53593593

anyone else getting these from massdrop? i'm planning on printing some nices memes and putting them as media keys

>> No.53593677

>>53593321
just jelly of my transformer
>>53593388
cant wait to see it. good luck fám
>>53593593
i thought about it but i don't have a board id wana put them on

>> No.53593747

I have a 1994 model M which I figure was OEM order or something because the badge indent was empty out of the box. Is anyone selling an oval IBM sticker that I could slap in there? Or is it more ~*historical*~ to leave it unbadged?

>> No.53593760

>>53593593
Naah.
All cash registers in my country look like using this kind of caps.

I'd kill myself if i had use them in my daily routine.

>> No.53594059

>>53593593
>flat caps
>ugly as fuck
all of my why

>> No.53594147

>>53593593
This is like people buying blacks. This shit is meant for POS boards, not a consumer board people buy for a nicer typing experience.

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Still waiting.

>> No.53594867

>>53594381
black on black with an accent looks so good in photos. does it actually look this good irl

>> No.53594982

>>53594867
I find the novelty wears off after a while.

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>>53594867
It's not going to make people say wow, but it does look really nice, especially without shiny ABS.

Actually, the escape key is ABS until I get this matching PBT modifier kit (as blanks).

>> No.53595231

>>53594982
>>53595111

y'all know of a good source for black blank pbt caps

>> No.53595258

Anyone here have an ortholinear? I'm thinking of building one.

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>> No.53595622

>>53595231
Most sources seem to be sold out. I got mine here, and they seem to do pre-orders:
http://www.ukkeycaps.co.uk/product/gateron-thick-pbt-blank-keycaps-iso-ansi
Not cheap, but supports lot of different layouts and it's some of the thickest PBT you could find.

>> No.53595648

>>53595622
THICKER THAN A BOWL OF OATMEAL

>> No.53595679

Question for those with HHKB, how do live with out dedicated media keys. I want to get one but the inability to use playpause/next/prev is insane to me. Are there workarounds I'm not aware of? (I use win/mac/linux for different things so things like autohotkey are ew.)

Also where do you get HHKB keycaps?

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>>53595679
>playpause/next/prev
magic trackpad + bettertouchtool (really fucking good piece of software)

I've seen realforce caps in various colors (would also fit the HHKB for the most part) on amazon.jp, but I'm not sure why'd you want to replace the HHKB anyway. Unless you're willing to novatouch-stem-mod it.

>> No.53595732

>>53595622
Hmm, if I go for the expensive stuff I'd probably go for some Leopold caps, damn they make nice ones.

>> No.53595763

>>53595729
Using bettertouchtool already(mainly for window snapping because OSX window management is ass by default and a few other hotkeys.)

Guessing I could use it to bind some funky ass key combinations that I'd never use to the media keys. Just a pita to set up the bindings in 3 oses I guess.

>> No.53595841

Other than the privilege of waving my internet dick around, what do I actually gain from buying something like a Ducky or a Filco over a cheaper option like a Rosewill or a Coolermaster?

>> No.53595889

>>53595841
CM is hit or miss quality wise. For the most part they're super solid and not only a value but genuinely good. No experience with Rosewill peripherals but in general Rosewill is pretty decent.

>> No.53595978

>>53595889
but for the boards that are generally regarded as good, such as the quickfire rapid? Rosewill has the RK-9000 which is supposed to be pretty well built as well.
What I'm wondering is would I gain anything from spending more and buying something slightly fancier like a Ducky one?

>> No.53596012

>>53595978
>quickfire rapid
I'm using the 1st gen QuickFire Rapid and love it. Only replacing it "because I want to" and it's been a couple of years. I don't think you really gain anything other than what's stated on the spec sheet, switch type/leds/etc. The quality of the Rapid is pretty good, the keys have a shine but that's to be expected with the keycap material.

>> No.53596082

>>53595732
With Leopold I've heard you have to make sure you get the right keys you need. It's also never easy to find a buyer with the right look you want, no matter the brand. I guess you have to scour the internet and get lucky.

It's a shame that feng is busy moving back to China because he often does some nice sets.

>> No.53596124

>>53596082
>you have to make sure you get the right keys you need
wtf does that even mean?

>> No.53596157

>>53596082
ah good point, thanks anon

>> No.53596174

>>53596124
They like to do the stepped caps lock with the non centered stem.

>> No.53596185

>>53596174
if you don't read what you're ordering you're a tard anyway

>> No.53596207

>>53596185
no need to be rude, he's saying most sellers won't be clear about it

>> No.53596246

>>53596207
>4chan
>no need to be rude

>> No.53596340

Got two old model m keyboards for free from my last summerjob. Had to clean them but now they look and feel factory new. 3>

>> No.53597012

Hey guys, I'm kinda new to mech keyboards, but looking around and trying to filter out the memes, I came up with 2 alternatives. The shine 5 with browns or this one https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1525

I know they're both entry level and it's kind of why I'm getting one of them, I'm okay with brown switches, though I'd like clears, I can't find many in stock.

Can you give me your insight into which one I should get? I don't know the ins and outs of the models, outside of the description, since it seems to be only the variety of the LED colors, Is this right? I have no experience with backlighting, but would generally like to have it, and both do. Anyways. any opinions would be appreciated

>> No.53597113

>>53597012
If you want clears and fancy backlighting, consider the Shine 4, I was very happy with mine (still am, I just got another keyboard by now).

>> No.53597276

>>53597113
out os stock everywhere


I was kinda looking for opinions on one model vs the other

>> No.53597433
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>>53597012
why browns?

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b8ing k70 here

>> No.53597511

>>53597433
I don't wanna start a whole argument, and I've seen that chart. Like I said, I'd prefer clears but they're out of stock everywhere and I don't mind browns.

>> No.53597786

>>53597433
why are you niggas always throwing shade on brown switches? there is nothing wrong with them. stop being keyboard nazi faggots

>> No.53597846

>>53597786
>using any cherry switches

>> No.53597883

>>53597786
because they're shit, much like their color.

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>>53590480
>retro edition
Nice theme.

How much should I pay for a G80-0915?

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Ordered some H2O. Any advice welcome.

>> No.53598046

>>53598034
*H2O2

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Where my blue alps bros at?

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>>53593593
Nice idea, but why don't you just buy a used POS-keyboard?

>> No.53598214

The best mechanical keyboard is one that not only doesn't glow like an obnoxious piece of shit for retards who need to drool over their keyboard to see what they're typing but also those that aren't clacky noisy pieces of DOG SHIT KIDDOS

RATE MY BLOG

>> No.53598215

What do you guys think about the Varmilo VA108 on massdrop?

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>> No.53598268

Should I get the K70 or Ducky Shine 5?

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>>53598214
Nice Blog. I don't like clacky Keyboard, but clicky switches are nice.

>> No.53598583

>>53597901
that 10u spacebar...

>> No.53598588

>>53598215
Pretty good keyboard and comes with decent looking PBT keycaps out of the box. Gateron switches are probably the best Cherry copy.
Only worry is that sometimes they stick their ugly comic sans logo in some super visible spot.

>> No.53598604

>>53593291
How do those TaiHao caps feel?
Cheap pieces of shit, or decent texture
>inb4 coating

>> No.53598737

>>53598034
>inb4 he doesn't have a uv light

>> No.53598788

Looking at the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid as my first mechanical keyboard. Anyone have any experience on a Mac computer?
I just want to make sure everything works correctly including the function keys.

>> No.53599032

>>53598737
Do I really need one? If so, it's not a problem, but I have time.

>> No.53599057

>tfw want RK61 keyboard

>cant afford $64 for a meme keyboard

>> No.53599205

>>53599057
>RK61 keyboard
literally the ugliest caps ever made. ever.

>> No.53599246

>>53599032
Well no the sun will work just fine if keep rotating the shell of the keyboard to face it, but if you don't have time to rotate it towards the sun you'll need a uv light.

>> No.53600279

>>53592999
Fucking kill yourself my man

>> No.53600455

Just had my Corsair K70 crap out on me after spilling the tiniest amount of beer on the bottom row. If my attempts to clean it prove unsuccessful, can you guys recommend a good (tougher) replacement? I really liked the K70, but I have a hard time justifying buying another if it's so easily damaged.

>Budget: $150 or less
>US
>Browns
>Full size
>Preferably one with a wrist rest (or is it that hard to switch over to not having one?)
>Didn't use backlights on my K70. Blue if need be

>> No.53600493

>>53600455
Oh and I'd like media keys as well, or the ability to easily macro them.

>> No.53601134

>>53600455
don't spill liquids on your keyboard

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Got one of these for $200 maybe 10 years ago. Best money I ever spent.

>> No.53601321

>>53601299
so what exactly is the status of it now then?

>> No.53601335

>>53598143

The true master race feels good

>> No.53601337

>>53601299
I'd buy one if they had a 3-button trackpoint.
I need muh middle button.

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>budget
70-250

>location
USA

>switch type
Spring = Medium Mechanism = Tactile (Clear)

>Layout
What? qwerty?

>form factor
100%

>blacklight
I want LED (customizable in Linux)

>current keyboard
Logitech k360


Help me out mk/g/

>> No.53601816

Does anyone know where I can find replacement keyboard legs for my '92 SSK?

>> No.53602171

>>53591691
Now that's a strange layout. What's up with the arrow keys.

>> No.53602185

>>53601765
>>53601765
CM Storm MasterKeys L
The leds as I understand are customisable both thru software and on the hardware (if sw is not linux)
It only comes in browns tho

Ducky Shine 5 might be an option as well, I think they have clears

>> No.53602186

>>53592638
Not him, but I would be pretty proud of having a cool dressed up mannequin like that.
It has a very neat #aesthetic without being too pretentious. If it had a head and legs, it'd be creepy.

>> No.53602218

How wobbly are PCB mounted switches (as in no plate)?

>> No.53602702

>>53599246
I think I can manage this. Any experience with bleaching caps? What I guess:
Laserprinted - ok
Padprinted - nah
Doubleshots - ? I think it depends on the used plastics and colors...

>> No.53603557

vortex poker 3 vs HHKB

>> No.53603603
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is dell AT103R worth 5$?

>> No.53603622
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>tfw your hhkb feels and looks so good you lost interest in the threads

>> No.53603631

>>53603557
Only complaint I have about my Pok3r is the printing on the stock caps.

>> No.53603698

>>53603631
I was planning on changing the caps with either one i choose.

Leaning toward the Pok3r but not sure which switch to use. (torn between brown and clear)
I don't game much at all, but i do program a lot and i'm probably going to end up typing essays or something on it. Any suggestions/reccomendations?

>> No.53603737

>>53598604
they feel pretty good.
mine don't have the coating, and even if they did. you van remove it by soaking them in rubbing alcohol.

>> No.53603832
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Hype increases

>> No.53603840

>>53603832
that better be an hhkb

>> No.53603847

>>53603698
I personally recommend browns.

>> No.53603859

>>53603840
It's 400 gaterons.

I already have a HHKB

>> No.53604057

>>53603698
Blue

>> No.53604147

>>53591108
years and years later I still think it's bizarre that only the Japanese version of the HHKB has arrow keys.
I mean, they deemed it important enough to add to Japanese keyboards (despite JIS being retardedly cramped) but not for ANSI?

>> No.53604155

>>53604147
arrows are overrated.

>> No.53604178

>>53603859
>400
For what reason

>> No.53604189

>>53604178
I want to make the very best OP pic

>> No.53604199

If I want a 10keyless keyboard for taking with me to work/uni, I should get brown switches, Y/N? I have a board with cherry blues which I love, but I'd need something much quieter in a workplace environment or libraries and such.

>> No.53604231

>>53604199
brown are not quiet

in fact, they sound like broken shit.

get matias or topre

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thoughts on this?

>> No.53604272

>>53604155
bullcrap.
unless you're using some sort sort of "vim everywhere" plugin or your WPM is low, arrow keys are necessary for productivity.

>> No.53604285

>>53604272
yes and I use my fn arrows.

dedicated arrows are overrated.

>> No.53604310

I like arrows but I've become used to 60%. You can too

>> No.53604325
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>just got my ducky one with blues

it's ok I guess...kinda loud though. i hope my room mate doesn't complain -_-

>> No.53604340

>>53604231
I only know of HHKB that has topre switches. Any others?

>> No.53604354

>>53604269
Probably the ugliest stock keycaps I ever saw.

>> No.53604355

>>53604340
cm novatouch
topre realforce
topre typeheaven
royal kludge (chinese clone)

>> No.53604359

>>53604269
Fuckin aids on a stick. looks like dog shit.

>> No.53604372

>>53604325
Why would you get a switch that is infamous for being extremely loud if you were concerned with your room mate being annoyed? Are you a fucking idiot?

>> No.53604403

>>53604372
I didn't know

There weren't any clears and I didn't think I'd like the reds because

>no feedback for typing

>> No.53604418

>>53604403
You are obviously an idiot for not researching that much into the keyboard before you bought it. Well either way hope you enjoy it, blues are really nice to type on and the ducky one is quite nice. Pics?

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>>53604418
yeah I guess. It's hard in my country, not much of a range. It's a cool keyboard though and it's probably not that loud with my door closed, it's just a big change from my shitty $15 keyboard.

Nice and minimal which is what I wanted, back lighting, and the price was reasonable.

Not much more to say really, nice for someone who does gaming & typing, and doesn't want extra gaymer features.

>shitty pics attached

>> No.53604533

>>53604513
What is that thing behind the keyboard?

>> No.53604556

>>53604533
Ableton Push

>> No.53604610

>>53604533
looks like a midi drumpad

>> No.53604646

>>53604178
I wanted to try gateron clears as well as blacks and they only came in packs of 200 on assdrop.

>> No.53604687

>>53604269
Great idea, as a matter of fact, you should also buy a katana and tattoo an Alienware logo on your forehead

>> No.53604697

>>53602171
I modeled it after what another guy did (awesome dude, was really helpful) since this is my first attempt at building my own keyboard and I had little to no idea what I was doing.

See my build log here

https://geekhack
org/index.php?topic=78992

>> No.53605158

Quick question about the poker 3

Does it have NKRO or it's just 6-key rollover?
Is it different with the other variations it has(blacklight light, pbt)?

Usually from different sites are telling different information, it's confusing already. I haven't tried it out, so I wanted to be sure before purchasing.

>> No.53605256

>>53605158
I've never heard of a mechanical keyboard without n-key roll over, but I might be wrong.

>> No.53605328

>>53605256
Filcos are 6kro over USB.

>> No.53605355

>>53605328
Most keyboards are 6KRO over USB (except for Ducky and Cooler master who manage to do it somehow on a firmware/software level).

USB doesn't really allow for anything more than 6KRO by design.

>> No.53605367

>>53604513
Nice roches and joggers in 2016 fellow bro, will you be smoking wead at the quad later?

>> No.53605369

>>53603859
My 200 Gaterons are in Germany currently

>> No.53605381

>>53605369
Nice. What's the final destination?

>> No.53605384

>>53605328

Depends on the model. Some Filcos are nkro capable.

Not that it matters, the nkro USB hack isn't much better than 6kro.

>> No.53605391

>>53605381
Stockholm, Sweden

>> No.53605425

>>53605391
Which one's d' you get?

What are you going to use them for?

>> No.53605426

>>53605391
That's all I need, hacking through your firewall right now. Say goodbye to your files.

>> No.53605840
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53605840

I need a fullsize keyboard with cherry MX, german ISO and wireless. No need for led, macro keys or gaming stuff.
Any idea?

>> No.53605852

>>53605840
>wireless
Filco has some wireless ones, but I'm not sure if they come in ISO.

>> No.53605987

>>53605425
Green and clear
Dont really know yet. I two boards with reds I can use
I also have 200 Zealios coming in

>> No.53605992
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>>53605840
Filco Minila Air

>> No.53606085

>>53604285
I once again disagree.
especially if you use programs that have macro+arrow key commands. for example enjoy editing text in OS X where highlighting the last typed word in a text editor is Alt+Shift+Fn+alpha key.
try to do this shit quickly and you WILL make typos, because unlike the arrow key island, there's no tactile feedback when trying to find whatever alpha keys your 60% keyboard has assigned as arrows. and this is coming from someone who has been typing at 130+ WPM for 20 years, so I certainly have no issue locating keys.

it's just asinine to put arrows under an fn layer when there's clearly enough space to put it, and worse when there are dedicated keys for fucking right shift and tilde.

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ohio~

>> No.53606847

>>53596246
This attitude is the reason why this website is so shitty

>> No.53607204
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>>53597433
Have blues want clear.

Can't find clear.

>> No.53607313

>>53607204
Look harder, there's plenty of keyboards with clears.

>> No.53607334

So, Leopold topre is basically the same as Novatouch, but more compact?

>> No.53607464

>>53607334
No.

Comparing a leopold to a realforce would be a valid comparison, a novatouch is not.

>> No.53608083

>>53607464
why is that? same shitty caps

>> No.53608084

Anyone got any experience with refurbished stock from NCIX?

http://www.ncix.com/detail/corsair-gaming-k70-rgb-led-8b-119063-1302.htm

>> No.53608264

>>53608083
Leopold has pbt caps for all that I know. The novatouch has abs caps and mx compatible stems.

>> No.53608319

>>53608264
They are still shitty because they worn out after time and get shiny. What's up with mx compatible stems?

>> No.53608417

>>53608319
I suggest you actually do some research before asking questions here. mx-compatible stems are literally a core feature of the novatouch.

>> No.53608480

>>53608417
Did it already, yes. Not gonna return my NT then.

>> No.53608939

>>53608319
>PBT
>get shiny

Choose one.

>> No.53609116

>>53608939
well, ok only spacebar can get shiny, but
>Unlike the high-end Topre Realforce keyboads, this specific iteration of the FC660C has one additional drawback — laser-etched legends. After several weeks of heavy use, you can expect the legends to start fading.
http://hsu.my/posts/fc660c/

>> No.53609284

>>53609116
depends
>this specific iteration of the FC660C
some have dye-sub caps

>> No.53609354

>>53609116
>>53609284
Why not just buy new caps?

>> No.53609426

>>53609354
> Topre
> New caps

>> No.53609465

>>53609354
because the fc660c is topre
unless you get in on some super special snowflake group buy, good luck

>> No.53609487
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>>53609284
This. The black on grey and the black on white/grey versions are dyesubed.

>> No.53609489

>>53609426
>>53609465
Oh I thought you were talking about the Novatouch. Which has cherry keycap compatibility

>> No.53609588

>>53609354
>>53609426
ok, i'm definitely sticking with NT s

>> No.53609630

>>53609426
just buy a RF and salvage the caps, duh

>> No.53609633

>>53609588
Buy a novatouch and join the aluminum case groupbuy that a guy is preparing at geekhack.

>> No.53609666

>>53605852
>>53605992
Thanks, but I need it full size. And I also can't find any ISO version...

>> No.53609690

>>53609666
Learn ANSI.

>> No.53609730

>>53609666
>fullsize
>wireless
why

>> No.53609736

>>53609633
I'm not from USA. I bought NT and a few weeks later the only store in my country that has other than gaymir keyboards got Leopold FC660C Gray, that's why i'm asking.

>> No.53609878

>>53609690
1. why
2. it's for serious business use
3. it's not for me
4. i know ANSI but ISO is way better for german office use.

>> No.53610014

>>53609426
>being this poor.

>> No.53610021

>>53609730
Fullsize because numpad and navigation keys are needed, wireless because she wants it... (Accounting Manager)

>> No.53610044

>>53609878
you're going to be hard pressed to find a wireless mech in ISO. Tell your friend to bury his dreams or to get a logitech bluetooth keyboard.

>> No.53610238

>>53610044
She has to use whatever I give her. But if there's a keyboard, that matches her wants, why not. It looks like she has to live with a cable.

>> No.53610295

how are mechanical eyboards suerior to regular ones? Aren' they noisier?

>> No.53610312

>>53610295
They don't miss keystrokes most of the time.

Unlike your keyboard.

>> No.53610326

>>53610295
All text typed via mechanical keyboards gains a +10 memery boost.

>> No.53610430

>>53610295
Depends. Clicky switches are louder by definition. But linear or tactile switches aren't.
But noise isn't the only counting point. I like the tactile and hearable feedback of the light MX blue switches.

>> No.53610506

Thoughts?
http://www.ncix.com/detail/ducky-one-red-cherry-mx-75-125329-1302.htm

>> No.53610548

>>53610506
it's fine just buy it

>> No.53610552

>>53610506
That's damn cheap for a Ducky. Go right ahead.

>tfw they just ripped the information about it from mechanicalkeyboards.com

>> No.53610618

>>53610548
thank you sir.
>>53610552
Yeah that's why I ask, never seen one for that cheap. Also Double Shot ABS Keycaps.

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What is this for and why would i need this?

>> No.53611875

>>53611797
To make cherry 62g ergo-clears, objectively the best switch ever created.

>> No.53612363

>>53609116
>well, ok only spacebar can get shiny
That's because most of spacebars are ABS

>> No.53612421

Where do you all find Model M keyboards for so cheap? I can only find them online for like $50+

>> No.53612611

>>53612421
Same here.
Seems like there is a lot of precious hardware in murrican thrift stores...

>> No.53612612

is k70 meme?

>> No.53612615

>>53611797
A- are those 150g springs?

Please post the link.

>> No.53612636

>>53612612
No, it's just shit.

>> No.53612695

>>53612636
ok thank you i will continue search

>> No.53612934

>>53612615
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Switches-Spring-for-Cherry-MX-DIY-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-35G-40G-45G-60G-62G-67G-150G/914660_32499622296.html

>> No.53613056

>>53612934
thanks

>>53612695
What are you looking for?

>> No.53613159

>>53605367
>smoking weed
>implying it's not the most comfy combination of clothing

>> No.53613184

Accidentally won a Ajazz AK33 keyboard on eBay

How long will this chunks hit keyboard last me?

>> No.53613578

>>53613056
just good mechanical keyboard for video game

>> No.53613926
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>the box for the keycaps is bigger than the box for the actual board

>> No.53614059

>>53612934
Well i am deff buying those 150g springs

>> No.53614631

You obviously get this shit alot, but what would be the cheapest keyboard without accualy being trash?

>> No.53614696

>>53614631
Magicforce 68

>> No.53614723

I need a new keyboard

>$150
>USA
>blues maybe green heavier keys might be good
>Full keyboard
>back light not a must
>Have CM Storm QuickFire TK

Really need a full keyboard. TK is driving me crazy.

>> No.53614725

>>53614631
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13790&seq=1&format=2

$35 shipped. gaterons are the best cherry knockoff, and their linears are the best of their knockoffs

>> No.53614763

>>53614723
literally any fullsize board brah. ducky, filco, varmilo, cherry, ibm, hell even coolermaster makes a full size board

>> No.53614828

>>53614696
Is this same, but just smaller/uglier?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Qisan-Mechanical-Keyboard-Gaming-68-Keys/dp/B01A9QPG0S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458599084&sr=8-1&keywords=Magicforce+68

>> No.53614932

>>53614828
it's the exact same keyboard. it just goes under different names.

>> No.53614957

>>53614932
Yea, just realized that. But the switches seem to be different

>> No.53615011

>>53614957
There are different configurations with different switches (when you get up to 70-90 USD versions you get actual Cherry switches).

>> No.53615032

>>53606847
>why this website is so good
ftfy

>> No.53615064

>>53615032
That's honestly a really sad perspective. I don't understand why you'd enjoy a purposely abusive environment.

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IBM A BEST

>> No.53616010

>>53615064
The Internet isn't real.

>> No.53616352

>>53615064
>4chan
>feeling anything at all
pick one.

>> No.53616455
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>>53615064
4chan is a place where all walks of life, nationalities, and races can gather and call each other faggots and niggers
and i think that's beautiful

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>>53615311
ayy

>> No.53616535

>>53616455
This. Also, nice caps.

>> No.53616571

>>53609666

Filco makes an ANSI (US) and JIS fullsize called the Majestouch Concertible 2. Dunno if there is a german ansi version though.

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>>53616455
it is beautiful. just like you.

>> No.53616694
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So I just got around to experiment a little with my vintage Alps keyboards.
To make it short:
There is this one faggot in these threads who always talks shit about Matias switches, being worse than original Alps and stuff.
I can tell you, the Matias switches are way better than used vintage Alps. I don't know about NiB models, but usually they are expensive as fuck (thanks to the hype).
The Matias QC ones are really good if you are on a tight budget.

>> No.53616739

Anyone knows where to get best blank ISO keysets in Europe?

>> No.53616800

>>53616694
that's good to hear, I've been wanting to try out the tactile Matias but was a little worried. guess I'll pick up a board with one soon.

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hi

>> No.53617420

>>53600279
keep telling people to kill themselves on the internet, ser originale

>> No.53617711

How can I find a keycap set that has completely different color keys like a rainbow almost but everything could possibly be a different shade of different colors

>> No.53617859

What do you guys think of the lolita spyder by noppoo? The name is really creepy and the switches are not cherry, but I find the price okay. Is it worth 40 pounds?

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>>53617711
u mean like this?

>> No.53617881

>>53616800
Í don't know if this information is worth anything to you, but anyway:
I just tried putting a Matias springleaf into an orange Alps switch. That actually feels really nice, makes the orange Alps a little springier and tactile. They are still incredibly loud though, my MX-Whites are way more silent.
I also put an orange Alps slider into a Matias switch and holy fucking shit, this is weird.
It's basically impossible to not bottom out. Once you reached the threshhold the key will travel the whole 4mm. It's pretty loud and the bottomout is pretty rough, but I think I could like this switch. A lot.

>> No.53617923

>>53617859
I don't think you can get £40 and real cherry.

Now I'm not really personally a fan of kalih switches. For £40 the only real other option I think is the Magicforce 68

>> No.53617935

>>53617923
Are they significantly worse than cherry switches though?

>> No.53617960

>>53617935
I'm no big expert, I've only tried razer greens aka kalih blues. they're not my cup of tea.
It might also be down to that specific boards build quality that means they feel worse. I have a Magicforce with Outemu blue switches, I find them very enjoyable for example

>> No.53617994

You don't know how bad kailh is until you get through one. My g key on my zalman zmk500 is giving up. Worst of all, there's not any decent tenkeyless in the same price range or a bit more expensive, it's either this or above 80.

>> No.53618000

>>53616694
I agree for the most part, matias makes amazing clones, but the problem with vintage alps tends to be how much they were used and abused and the condition they were stored in.
Pristine, nicely stored, and barely used SKCM blues and whites feel better than matias imo.
Try cleaning up / lubing those oranges and click modding them.

>> No.53618016

>>53617994
>Mechanical keyboard
>Expensive, but long durability
>a key fucking fails

Well that defeats the purpose.

>> No.53618040

>>53618016

It's kailh, a chink knockoff, but it's been few months and I've not been using it all that much. If you think about it, the g key is not even one of the most commonly used keys for everyday life, yet it fucking gave up.

>> No.53618073

>>53617865
that is really awesome but is there one in darker colors? I actually really do like that one though

>> No.53618104

>>53618073
That's the only one I know of, it's called NPKC Rainbow
Massdrop have them from time to time

>> No.53618152

>>53618000
I tried lubing them. Things got worse. For some reason (used krytox 103/205 50:50) the upstroke is accompanied by an annoying click now.
I didn't do anything to the springleaf, but it is still like that for some reason. Maybe it is because of the heavy use?
One even started doing this without getting lubed. I opened it, cleaned it from the dust and reassembled it, just for it to start clicking on random occasions. I don't know what's going on there.

However, as I said here >>53618000 I tried to use the springleaf of the Matias switches and it actually makes the switch feel quite nice. There is no click (although the Matias QC leafs come prelubed) and the switches feel way nicer that way. It's hard to point out, but they feel "newer".

How exactly does clickmodding work? If it's just bending the springleaf a little further, I tried that and it feels quite horrible to be honest.

>> No.53618172

I want to get a g710. Does that make me a bad person?

>> No.53618248

>>53618172
Only misguided

>> No.53618334

>>53618152
>How exactly does clickmodding work?
There are two tabs on the bottom on both clicky and tactile SKCM alps, but tactile have another set on the top as well (prevents the click leaf from bending inward as much and springing back to smack the outer housing, which causes the click). Bending the upper set of tabs inward to be flat against the back of the click leaf will make a tactile leaf more like a clicky one.

>> No.53618464

>>53617865
Lucky the fucking leprechaun reporting in

>> No.53618496

>>53618334
Thanks for the tip.
Just tried that and it actually makes orange Alps quite nice. I also tried a Matias clicky leaf with a orange switch. It feels a little crisper, but I guess that's due to my orange Alps being quite busted.
All in all a quite nice mod, but sadly I don't like clicky Switches anymore, except for the soft click of my MX Whites.

>> No.53618527

>>53593291
What 4chan style is that?

>> No.53618739
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Someone spent many tens of thousands of dollars on little pieces of plastic to take this picture.
How does this make you feel?

>> No.53618784

>>53618496
Yeah, I can't say I'm a big fan of clicky switches. I'm about to get some Matias QCs for my next board - hopefully I'll like 'em.

>> No.53618829

>>53618784
If you tell me what switches you are used to I can try to compare them for you.

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>>53617865
>>53618073
>tfw npkc rainbow

>> No.53618911

>>53618829
NovaTouch at home, 65g Zealios at work. Tried all the common Cherry switches on demo boards in stores.

I have loose SKCM Alps of various kinds - amber, white, orange, and salmon (only enough of white to do anything with, though). Having played around with them, I quite like how they work compared to Cherry switches, though I want a quieter switch for the aforementioned project.

>> No.53618978

>>53618739
>tfw you find someone stupid enough to think that board is owned by a random guy and not the guy who makes bro's

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>>53593291
excuse me?

>> No.53619131
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Looking to buy a mechanical keyboard for the first time. All the highly-rated ones on Amazon look like trash.

>Budget
$200 or less
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Red or brown I guess, I think the clicky noise would annoy me.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%, numpad required.
>Backlight
Not necessary.
>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech G510, I want something smaller and less stiff than this behemoth, but I appreciate the wrist rest.

Have a deepgoose for your trouble.

>> No.53619207

>>53618040
>failing after a few _months_
fucking seriously? that's just ridiculous.

>> No.53619223

>>53618911
Never tried the Zealios, but lubed ergo-clears, which are supposed to feel similar.
Matias QC has a similarly strong pronounced tactile bump and is much, much smoother. After the tactile bump the switch nearly instantly bottoms out, which is cushioned by the rubberfeet (I always guessed that's what Topre feels like, but I never had a Topre board).
However, the keywobble is fucking insane, which makes the board ouder than it could be. You can solve that by drowning the fucker in lube though, but it also makes the keys a little mushier. Also, lube the stabilizers, they are just annoyingly loud.
To be honest I don't think that the Matias QC will be much quieter than the Zealios if you use the standard case (of Matias/KBP), since both are quite shitty.
Except for that, the switches are great. Responsive (no double-tap issue), nicely weighted, very tactile and easy to customize (no desoldering required to open the switch).

Long story short, I guess they should feel like Zealios, but depress faster after crossing the threshold (like all Alps switches they collapse, while MX type becomes linear again). If that's what you like about Alps you should like them a lot.

>> No.53619230

>>53618997
>flipping the spacebar

>> No.53619249

>>53619131
see
>>53597433
are you sure you want red or brown?

>> No.53619276

>>53619249
>are you sure you want red or brown?
No, I have actually never used a mechanical keyboard regularly - and in my brief usage I never knew what switches it wore. I just know I don't want constant clicking noises, or keys stiffer than the G510.

>> No.53619419

>>53618152
>I tried lubing them. Things got worse.
I should of mentioned that a VERY small amount should be used on just the slider. Sorry it didn't work out though, it sounds like you have a heavily used batch of oranges.

>> No.53620034

>>53619419
Well, it's not that bad. I can imagine some pretty neat projects with them, so I'm not too sad.
Thanks for all your help though!

>> No.53620233

>>53618997
oh jesus what are these

it looks like a homemade version of the miami keyset that's waaaay better

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>>53620233
some no name crap from geekkeys. they feel great tho. better than the tai hao miami

>> No.53620470
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So I have pic related keyboard. It's nice enough for a membrane keyboard and has served me well for the last several years. But I have become enlightened to the delight of mx brown switches. My issue is that I'm very, very used to the larger, spaced out keys on my current keyboard. Any mechs out there with similar spacing? My gigantic hands tend to not like standard keycap sizes.

>> No.53620546

>>53620451
Yeah, they look a lot better than the actual Miami's you posted as well. Did it comes as a set or did you buy two sets of caps and combine them? Maybe I can assemble it from a pink and a cyan set...

>>53620470
you'll get used to it in a week

>> No.53620692

>>53598214
9.5/10 "epitome of euphoria"

>> No.53620783

Yo /mkg/ I own one blue board. I used to own a red board, didn't like it, I've tried blacks and browns, I like neither, and recommendations for a what switches I should get for my second board?

>> No.53620807

>>53620783
>I don't like blacks or browns
Fuck off racist
>>>/pol/

>> No.53620820

>>53620783
Did you like the black or the red board more? If black, then maybe try greens.

You can also try clears, which have a much more satisfying bump than the browns but are still quiet.

You can also go completely off the rails and try buckling springs or Matias' click alps.

>> No.53620878

What do you guys think of Unicomp's boards?

>> No.53620893

>>53620546
came as a set. they're still on the site, but sold out.

>> No.53620923

>>53620893
Yeah I had seen, they're the blue/pink thick PBT set. Apparently they're pretty rare now...

>> No.53621780

>>53620878
Unicompletely shit

>> No.53621852

took the blanks off and put the kana keys from my kul on
easier to type on since i can see and shit lel
are gaterons supposed to be really scratchy?
the blacks on my kul are really quiet and smooth while the gateron yellows are loud during the travel and are really frictiony and scratchy

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>>53621852
oh sh!t forgot the pic

>> No.53622119
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Does anyone have a wrist rest like pick related? Can you type without using "legs"?
I know they are overpriced, but i really want a good wrist rest.

>> No.53622131

Why does ISO exist when the superior ANSI exists?

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>>53616571
ANSI - American National Standards Institute
ISO - International Organization for Standardization
US even is a full member of ISO, why should I buy a special snowflake of a keyboard?

>> No.53622361

>>53622131
This
>>53622184
I work in a german company. We produce plastics material, sell it to the chinks and the chinks make car interior for American cars of it. Chinks are cheap, but why expensive german Material? Because germans produce superior ISO standard and us-standards are the retard little brother of pure shit.

>> No.53622789

>>53622118
this is fucking gooooooold

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>>53622131
>2.25u left shift
fuck that shit I need a dedicated greentext button

>> No.53623088

what are those split down the middle keyboards called? i tried "split keyboard" but i got some blog guy talking about how tiny was better

>> No.53623201

>>53623088
Ergodox? Ultimate hacking keyboard? Fancy-ass korean customs?

>> No.53623441

>>53623201
yea those are what i was thinking of, are there no cheap alternatives

>> No.53623926

>>53623441
No. Lagdrop or building one yourself are your best options.

Just don't use cherry switches, those are ridiculously expensive compared to gaterons and will drive your budget off the wall.

>> No.53623958

>>53623441

You can get a fully assembled ergodox with caps for $225 shipped.

Under $150 self asembled.

>> No.53624181

>>53618040
Is it possible to fix?

>> No.53624325

>>53622119
I don't have one but I've considered making one myself. It's just a fucking tilted plank, but it looks neat. Don't know how comfy it is though, will probably want rounded edges and whatnot.

>> No.53624354
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>>53624325
Yeah, it looks neat

>> No.53624365

>>53619223
>However, the keywobble is fucking insane, which makes the board ouder than it could be.
How does that work? Is the slider hitting the sides of the housing?

>To be honest I don't think that the Matias QC will be much quieter than the Zealios
The loudest part of Cherry non-clicky switches is bottoming out, so I don't understand how that wouldn't be abated.

>If that's what you like about Alps you should like them a lot.
Good.

>> No.53624567

>>53624365
The Matias slider has a little too much room. I don't know whether it is hitting the housing or if the sound comes from the momentum of the keycap or something like that, but that sound is pretty loud, I think it is actually louder than bottoming out lubed Clears

>> No.53624807

>>53624567
So you're saying it's on bottoming out?

>> No.53624914

>>53622184
Because every keyset is made for ANSI.

>> No.53625015
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>>53622118
>Che Guevara

>> No.53625044

>>53624914
Not every set - most of them. Good keysets are (also) made for ISO. It's the international standard.
Why the fuck should i use a keyboard that doesn't match my location or the international standard? It doesn't make any sense. Buying a ANSI-Keyboard just for the caps is like buying a sportscar if you need a truck, just for the looks. It's stupid.

>> No.53625117

What's the cheapest decent keyboard? TKL or smaller

>> No.53625121

>>53603698
Blues

>> No.53625178

>>53625044
Because the standard makes no sense. If it was ANSI vs ISO, sure, but its ANSI vs ISO-UK, ISO-PT, ISO-ES, ISO-Nordic, ISO-EVERY FUCKING IRRELEVANT COUNTRY IN EUROPE.

>> No.53625273

>>53625178
The layout is the same in every fucking relevant country in europe and also worldwide (it isn't EN, it's ISO) only the legends are different. USA is also member of ISO. ANSI is a irrelevant national standard of one single american country.

>> No.53625418

>>53625044
The enter key is harder to press and it's a nightmare for left shift users.

>> No.53625419

>>53611875
>>53612615
Can i install it on my NT? like, for instance on "enter" or "shift", or it's a stupid idea

>> No.53625490

>>53625418
>The enter key is harder to press and it's a nightmare for left shift users.
No. Why the hell should enter be harder to press? there is one switch under the cap - same on ANSI keyboards. On the other hand it's bigger and therefore easier to hit.
I'm a left shift user - what is this nightmare-theory based on?

>> No.53625493

>>53625273
>one single american country
that happens to be the size of europe
we don't have a need for the extra keys
this is as retarded as arguing about date format

>> No.53625512

>>53595111
Fucking Lego looking keycaps

>> No.53625522

>>53625419
You cant.

Topre spring is very different from cherry springs. On topre the spring is there just to activate the switch, the resistence of the keypress is due to the rubber dome only.

>> No.53625565

>>53625493
>that happens to be the size of europe
but only less than the half of the citizens... And it's not only Europe to use ISO. The rest of the world uses international standards.

It's ok if you want to be a special snowflake, but i want to use something that make sense.

>> No.53625566

>>53625418
You realise ISO users are left shifters as well? ANSI left shift is so unnecessarily big

>> No.53625567

>>53625273
> yurobabies jealous that we have a bigger country than they will ever have

Fucking idaho is larger than most European countries.

>> No.53625573

how are mechanical eyboards superior to regular ones?

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>>53625565
>The rest of the world uses international standards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY
try not to look like a fucking retard, ok?

idk what you're even mad about
the layout may be the same with ISO, but every single yuropoor county has it's own special snowflake keyboard

>> No.53625622

>>53625567
The single city Berlin has 3 times more people than your big nothing that is called idaho...

>> No.53625642

>>53625622
>being proud of having rapefugees
Good goy.

>> No.53625663

>>53625622
> more people in a small location is somehow better

Enjoy being packed like sardines. Meanwhile I will enjoy living In my HOUSE in the suburbs like a human being

>> No.53625693

>>53625573
bump

>> No.53625696

boy did this thread get full of blazing butthurt fast.

>> No.53625744

>>53625663
Amerifat telling something about a house... what you call a house is a fucking barn. I had an american neighbor when i was about to build my house. he said he will help me, because he has always built 2 houses in US... When we started and the pallets full of stones where delivered, he didn't even know what we want to do with it...

>> No.53625784

>>53625744
>learn2english
Kill yourself, eurocuck.

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>>53625663
bavaria has 10 times more citizens than idaho. Who the fuck thinks living in bavaria is packed like sardines?
Pic is the view out of my living room last summer...

>> No.53625814

>>53625784
why should i? most of you idiots speak and write much worse english than i do.

>> No.53625847

>>53625814
Where are you from, bitch?

>> No.53625850

>>53625847
127.0.0.1

>> No.53625885

>>53625814
You sound full of yourself narcissistic fuckhead

>> No.53625891

>>53625847
if I tell you, you would not know where that is. even if i say canada, mexico or USA.

>> No.53625900

>>53625885
not narcisstic - realistic.
one of us two is more stupid than I am.

>> No.53625902

>>53625847
cuckland

>> No.53625930

>>53625891
>assuming everyone is as retarded as you are

>> No.53625932

>>53625900
>one of us two is more stupid than I am.
cool are you going to cite an internet IQ test as proof?
please do

why do yurocucks have such a superiority complex?

>> No.53625947

>>53625932
125 - if i find that certification, i will post it. But it doesn't really matter.

>> No.53625969

>>53625932
Because Euros are cucked into using our American Deep-Fried Oreoboard

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>>53625947
>i will post it
hey, don't bother
no one cares.

>> No.53625974

>>53625947
Are you a shitskin from Italy or France?

>> No.53625991

>>53625974
no. my grandpa gassed your grandpa.

>> No.53626046

>>53625991
So Reddit?

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>>53625991
Calm down, we all know germany is superior. There is no need to tell it every single day.

>> No.53626360

>>53625490
The enter key is further away, not that it requires more force.

The left shift thing depends on how your hand rests, but mine would be right on the space between the two keys.

>> No.53626515

>>53626360
depends on your habits. Same is me with ANSI. I already own an ANSI keyboard. I just don't like it because the small enter key and i miss some hardly accessible characters.

>> No.53626639

>>53622118
how much was this total?

>> No.53626780

>>53626360
You don't use the same finger for Ctrl, Caps, Tab and shift? Those buttons are not as wide as ANSI shift

>> No.53626839

>>53626780
yeah, just let me press alt-shift with one finger on a standard layout.

>> No.53626857

>>53626839
Alt+shift with one finger on ANSI isn't possible either...

>> No.53627069

>>53626857
that's the point, the question itself of using the same finger is nonsense.

>> No.53627274

>>53626780
Horizontal position is different based on row. Shift had a higher frequency of use compared top the rest of those, as well, thus making it a priority.

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>>53627274
Doesn't take priority over being able to greentext in my book

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