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53447417 No.53447417 [Reply] [Original] [archived.moe] [rbt]

Old Pastebins must be changed edition.

Where to Buy:

Old thread: >>53435108

>> No.53447469

let it die

nobody bumped the last thread for 8 hours

>> No.53447521
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>> No.53447549

I was sleeping in the past 8 hours.

>> No.53447559
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>> No.53447643
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why is this the best keyboard I've ever used?

really love the black keyswitches. wallet intact too.

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What is it anons. Are we really going to let it die? Now? When i got interested in MK thanks to you a week ago.

>> No.53447664

Probably because you haven't used a whole lot of keyboards up to now.

Things are just a bit slow today, it's not like people will suddenly loose interest in meme keyboards.

>> No.53447672

I must be retarded but i really like this kind of layout, together with Leopold 660.
Still compact with visibly separated navigation part <3

>> No.53447696

i've used 5 types of keyswitches and i like the blacks the most

not the race though, fuck niggers

the keyboard in pic has some really nice in-built function keys too. just need a separate numpad

>> No.53447737

>interested in getting a mech keyboard
>search stores in my country
>only gaymen shit available
>expensive as fuck

>> No.53447787

>1) What keyboard do I buy?
>- See the buyer's guide

>there is no buyers guide

>> No.53447818

The buyers guide is outdated as shit, if you want advice just ask in the thread.

>> No.53447947

You are not the only one mate...

>Old Pastebins must be changed edition.
I would do that but I'm not experienced enough and my knowledge is 100% theoretical.

>> No.53448026

Well, the where to buy pastebin and the FAQ is fine except for two things or so.

I don't think there's any point in having a buyers guide. People want different things from their keyboarding experience and the keyboard markets nowadays can quite often accommodate to more specific needs. We should just have a template that people who are looking for recommendations can fill in and post here, like in the headphone general.

>> No.53448750
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Man, Ducky really fucked it up with their Shine 4 and Shine 5 design. That casing is just fugly and the 'cable rounting' is a joke. Basically everything about it seems inferior to the earlier Shine models to me - from the fake aluminium finish to the omission of fold out feet.

>> No.53448962

Switched from blues to browns. My whole life has improved significantly.

>> No.53449046

>omission of fold out feet
You have to hate your wrists a lot to want those.

>> No.53449560
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>tfw you find out your trackball uses Kailh switches

>> No.53449732
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Should I do it?
I haven't ordered any keycaps for my incoming ergodox yet.
Not sure if gray/darker gray or just plain black would look better.

>> No.53449817

>tfw no mouse with mechanical switches

>> No.53449984

Anybody tried to DIY with his self made teensy-like controller on atmega?
I know it's possible, looking for a guide.

>> No.53450303
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I didn't find any guides that walk you through the whole process, but it's quite straightforward once you understand how a keyboard matrix works and look at what other people did.

Matt3o has a guide on firmware programming on deskthority.

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Is this a meme keyboard, /g/?

>> No.53450379

If by "meme" you mean ugly piece of shit, yes.

Don't get it.

>> No.53450391

So, any recommendations then?

>> No.53450396

What are you looking for?

Backlight? Form factor? Anything else?

>> No.53450411

Just a mechanical keyboard with blue switches, no fancy backlighting and gaymer stuff

>> No.53450424

what's your budget?

>> No.53450450

Well, I'm not a murican
But I would like to spend less than $150

>> No.53450470

Get a non-backlit cooler master and some nice keycaps or a filco (and some nice caps if you can still fit that into your budget). They're both from the same OEM.

>> No.53450550

Thanks, with this budget is it possible to get a keyboard with numpad?

>> No.53450581

Shouldn't be a problem, the cooler master xt is like 70 bucks or so iirc.

Don't know about your local prices, but it shouldn't be horribly expensive.

Another recommendation that I've had experience with myself would be the cherry mx board 3.0, shouldn't be difficult to find if you're in Europe.

>> No.53450658

Does anyone have a recommendation for a mech that's less than 40 bucks?
Preferably something around 30 bucks. I don't care about the switches.

Yes I know you shouldn't buy cheap shit. I already have four keyboards, I just want a cheap TKL that I can use for tinkering.

>> No.53450704

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01A8FKXO4 (EU-link)

It's not bad

>> No.53450714

Thanks, now I'll just have to see if I can get that with free chinese shipping.

>> No.53450758

>i've used 5 types of keyswitches and i like the blacks the most
>not the race though, fuck niggers
Never change 4chan :3

>> No.53450782

We have come full circle
>ppl ask for advice
>we should make a guide
>the guide gets outdated
>just ask for advice dude lmao

>> No.53450874

I just ordered one of these. Hopefully it doesn't arrive dead like my other chinese keyboard

>> No.53450883

Actually I'm in South America, and the prices here are horribly expensive, that's sad.

I could by from Amazon but I may have to pay taxes and the price gets even higher...

>> No.53450892

From where and with what switch?

>> No.53450909

I want a really minimalistic looking keyboard that contains a numpad, uses cherry MX blue switches and with PBT or POM keycaps.

What are my options?

>> No.53450999
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Seller named "Qisan" on Amazon. Kailh blue switch.

The 60% in this picture has Kailh blue. I like them.

>> No.53451010

What about the Varmilo fullsize that just went up on Massdrop today?

>> No.53451027
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>kalih when they sell Outemu

>> No.53451077

Sorry but I don't want Outemu with their random 5g variance between batches.

>> No.53451090

Oh man, I love it!


>> No.53451206

do they usually have that? now I want to test mine... see if I have some small weights

>> No.53451298

The firmware is easy as shit, the same as entire matrix stuff. Im just concerned about stabilisation of of the voltage, supplying good operational conditions for the chip and other bullshit that teensy simply does for us.
In the end i might just copy the teensy approach but i thougth more about educational valor and the fact that using my own atmega would turn it into a bigger DIY level... Only selfmade switches and caps are left to be done then

>> No.53451471

Who ever made this picture should kill himself.

>> No.53451491

Where do I get the MX green version of the magic force?

>> No.53451501

son you need some tactile greys in your life

>> No.53451528

"qisan MX green" into Amazon.

>> No.53451530

Literally impossible to find man1

Im getting heavy zealios, hoping they will feel similar

>> No.53451611

>Literally impossible to find man
You can get them off mechanical keyboards dot fuck you, you haven't even looked

>> No.53451640
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>shipping to Sweden from mechkeys dot fuck me

>> No.53451675

I shipped internationally from them, just take it up the bum

>> No.53451766

Even if it gets outdated, it's not a process that takes a week.
A guide written now will last a lot of time, at least untill couple more keyboards get released.
The switches won't change same as the prices..


>> No.53451804

Das Keyboard


I have DASK3 without keycaps and Cherry MX blue. Awesome build quality. Quite heavy too (i.e. stays put). Nice long cord. Comes with USB hub which I don't use.
Only downside is that my wife doesn't like the click, so today I'd go for the Cherry MX brown, but that's taste.

>> No.53451865

Tried today 6Gv2 in the store. Why does it feel so shitty typing on blacks?

>> No.53451928

Take the thread title out of your name field.

>> No.53451939

Blacks are for POS boards.

>> No.53452034

Matias Quiet Click
Cherry MX Clear

(V60 btw).

>> No.53452039
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It's only 62€ thats the cheapest keyboard I can buy in Croatia.

Should I?

They come with that fake Cherry Red

>> No.53452040

blacks are the most boring switches

>> No.53452133

ok i just ordered a pok3r with mx clears. i don't think i'll be buying any other keyboards for a while now (because i have to save up now for the hhkp ofc)

>> No.53452165

I was thinking to buy a Poker 3 but I will wait for the RGB Gaymer version.

>> No.53452171
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It happens

>> No.53452180
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Didn't even paid attention to that desu

>> No.53452220

I aspire to be you anon.

Also I totally thought the HHKP was way more expensive than $220.

>> No.53452284

Anybody have any experience with Cherry Blue Ducky Minis? I've seen multiple reviews saying that they feel mushy and don't click, and that sort of defeats the purpose for me.

>> No.53452295

it used to be. Yen tanked so it's cheaper.

>> No.53452340

As an entry level keyboard, would this be a decent board to use?
I'll be using it at work so I wanted a quiet key.

>> No.53452350

Should I go brown or clear for my next keyboard?
I really enjoy my blues, but its getting a little annoying.

>> No.53452393

if you like your blues then go clear probs

>> No.53452530

If the thing that annoys you is the sound - go for clears.

If for any reason it's the tacticity <?> screw brown go for clears.

>> No.53452611


>> No.53452664

Does anyone know where I can get premade electrical board with keyswitches on them already? Or is that not possible?

Also what's a good PBT alternative to WASD? Are WASD keycaps that bad?

And I got another question. Is it possible to make a full size keyboard into a tenkeyless? Or does that require sodering?

If I can't make my keyboard any smaller. I think I might as well just buy a new one and get stuff on it. Like this Vortex.


>> No.53452773

Who /mx blue/ master race?

>> No.53452796

literally 80% of modern mechanical keyboard users

>> No.53452860
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Got this Tesoro Lobera Illumination keyboard with red switches from a friend but don't think it is Cherry. Seems to work quite well. But sometimes when I press a key once it register 3-5 letters. Any suggestions why? My first mechanical keyboard so I have no idea what to expect from these kinds of keyboards.

Pic related.

>> No.53452872

Well yes 80% keyboards are the best ones by far.

>> No.53452927

if it's not the physical key getting stuck then it sounds like it's defective

return it

>> No.53453163

any creative ideas on how to better secure that cable in place and reduce port strain? preferably something that wouldn't void the warranty.

>> No.53453272
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No it does not physically get stuck. I removes a cap and revieled the swishes. It says Kalih it seems. I guess this is the manufacturer of the switch. But I have no idea if it's crap or not.

Don't know if I can return it however. Got it from a friend so I guess the warranty us out.

>> No.53453332

bought razer blackwidow ultimate 2013
did i went full retard?

>> No.53453335
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would these work on the wasd v2? pic un related http://www.ebay.com/itm/PBT-Keycap-Set-for-Cherry-MX-based-Leopold-Keyboard-Front-Face-Englih-Black-/281535761839?nma=true&si=4zIs9P4Q2w063QShux%252FJ3wSA%252FaQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

>> No.53453393
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This thing looks nice.

>> No.53453426

Kalih isn't known to be amazing

>> No.53453440

Yeah kailh is known from a shit QA.
If you have a possibility to, return it.

>> No.53453480

probably, i'm pretty sure they're both standard key sizes

>> No.53453622


I've used cherry blues, browns, and razer switches forever.



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>> No.53453635

Cherry reds are known for capslock getting stuck.

>> No.53453640

>Not blue alps
Stay pleb

>> No.53453651

>not gateron reds
enjoy your sandpaper

>> No.53453728


Reds are objectively better than all the others. There is no need for tactile or audible feedback unless you have fat mongloid fingers and are bottoming out on every key press.

>> No.53453764


Blues are fun though, aint no one taking away my clicky

>> No.53453794


>not using gateron clears

baka senpai

>> No.53453813

Just my luck. So happy to finally have a mechanical keyboard. And I got shit. O well. Will see if I can return it and get something else/better. Could you guys maybe give me a hint on what to get for about $100-150. If I'll get a new keyboard I don't wanna make a fool of myself and just get something even worse. I figured cherry switches. And I think blues should be nice or (it's recommended for typists so why not even if the sound might drive ppl insane) or maybe greens?

>> No.53453868


Corsair K65 Cherry red is cheap as balls and they also sell it at best buy

>> No.53453882

Why the fuck would you get a corsair.

What form factor are you looking for? Backlight? Anything else you want?

>> No.53453936


Why not? I have one and its completely fine and having no problems with it at all...

>> No.53453950

Maybe because it has shit stock caps and a non-standard bottom row?

You can do far better for that price.

>> No.53454002


>awful reasons

The damn keyboard uses cherry reds, is compact, is backlit and functions fine. You are extraordinaryily biased good sir.

>> No.53454031


Right on man.

>> No.53454045

Why would you get it though? You can get something with a standard bottom row, from a company that isn't known for dead LEDs for that price.

You may want to check the thread you're in.

>> No.53454110


Yea I'm in a thread for mechanical keyboards.

Also what do you mean by standard bottom row? Maybe you are on to something but I'm not sure what you are talking about

>> No.53454197
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See pic related. Bottom row modifiers are different sizes (standard bottom row has the modifiers all the same size) so you'll end up with a larger spacebar, and other weirdly sized modifiers, which in return makes it a pain to find keycap sets since aftermarket keycaps are marketed towards enthusiasts. Any enthusiast grade keyboard (corsair keyboards are not included in this) has a standard bottom row (unless you've got some winkeyless custom, but those people already know what they're after).

tl;dr non-standard bottom row almost no keycap selection

>> No.53454226


Why would anyone who isn't Autistic want to change the keycaps? I don't see how hard plastic functions and different from... hard plastic.

>> No.53454263

Maybe because you want different looking keycaps, or want PBT instead of ABS, or want a different keycap profile. I mean, why would someone who gets a mechanical keyboard, which are highly modifiable want to modify it. Gee, I don't know.

It's obvious how new you are, lurk more.

>> No.53454268


I see, thanks for answering!

>> No.53454297

Sadly we don't have beat buy in Sweden. But I guess I could find it some other place :)

Not really that picky. Backlight would be nice but not a requirement and if they have Backlight I would like to be able to change the colors. Most Backlight are red, blue or green and I hate them all (I could change all the LEDs if needed but it takes a lot of time) I would however like to have the numpap keys. I see in this thread that not many keyboards seems to have that part for some reason. Why is this?

I have never used macro keys so this is useless to me (can't figure out when I would ever need them) but if you have a good idea feel free to tell me ;) other then that as I said I have close to no experience with mechanical keyboards do don't really know what to expect and what is considered "must have"

>> No.53454302


Oh so basically people who want to rice their keyboards with no actual gain in performance for typing.

I'm sure some keycaps do look pretty sweet though, although the whole point of using a keyboard is not to look at the keys.

>> No.53454345

You could the same about damn cars.
You just drive them from the inside inside so you do not look at them while using,

Just a matter of aesthetics. The same as everyt other thing in our life that can be customized beyond its usefullness.

>> No.53454346
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What's /g/ buying or planning to buy in the near future? Pic related, mostly just upgrades of things I already own.

>> No.53454371

the amount of times I try to post a thread and end up replying to one is fucking out of this world

>> No.53454377

Yes, people don't get mechanical keyboards because of muh wpm, they get them because they're nice to use and you can do lots of shit with them.

Like I told you, lurk moar.

>> No.53454395

If you're fine with a full size, you could get the Ducky Shine 5.

>> No.53454887

This one looks really nice. Any way to cut the cost a bit? Might just be more expensive in Sweden, about $200 and to import it is a no go. With shipping and customs it would be even more expensive. Could I cut cost if I grav a keyboard without the numpad or something?

>> No.53454950
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whats the difference between Cherry Mx Red and a regular keyboard? Dont people buy these things for the clickity clackity?

>> No.53455021

Oh I see.

Well, if you're in Europe shit's going to be expensive. See if you can get the Ducky Shine 4 any cheaper or take a look at some other Ducky keyboards if you want lighting of some sort, but you won't really be getting around expensive shipping and customs raping you.

Otherwise there's a variety of non-backlit keyboards which would probably fit your budget a bit more.

>> No.53455088
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>whats the difference between Cherry Mx Red and a regular keyboard?

>what's the difference between a switch and a keyboard

>> No.53455154

Yes, mechanical keyboards use different switches from regular ones. Thanks for pointing that out with your autism.

>> No.53455190

Any recommendations for a none backlit keyboard for me maybe :) thanks for all the help btw.

>> No.53455196

>magicforce 68 key
I kind of want to buy one of these since $50 seems like a good value, but I have enough keyboards.

>> No.53455219

What finish does yours have? How is it?

>> No.53455253

Good that you noticed that, now try reformulating your question in a manner that makes sense. Do you want to know what's different from a keyboard with mx reds compared to a keyboard with other mx type switches or do you want to know hat makes mechanical keyboards in general different from regular keyboards?

>> No.53455284
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Sup Germanfag here. I'm looking for a replacement of my Razer BlackWidow (old model with MX blue). It starts double tapping unfortunately both for the S and L key.

I was on the verge of buying a G710 (blue non plus), I don't even mind the tackiness that much, but I heard it's supposed to break after a few years, and I don't want that.

Now I heard Ducky is supposed to be good on this board, but they have so many models but relatively few of them ship here (none to Amazon but I found a big shop that sells them)

I want
>solid construction
>media keys, at least for volume (I use the FN keys on my Razer all the time but I wish they were dedicated)
>don't really need backlight or RGB shit

Pic related are the ones that I can buy.

I tend towards Blues again, but want to try Reds, Browns, Blacks and Clears.

Speaking of which, does someone know normie keyboards that they sell in electronic markets which have reds, blacks or clears, so that I can try them out?
I know I can try out browns on a G710, but that's about it.

>> No.53455317

Check out the WASD barebones (don't get their caps, they're shit). Get that and a nice set of keycaps and you're golden (just be aware of the fact that iso caps aren't that commonly available).

Otherwise you could get a cooler master (not the backlit ones) and a set of keycaps, I think that may even fit your budget despite shipping cost and all that jack.

I live in the middle of Europe, this isn't a cheap hobby, even less so for Europeans.

>> No.53455661

Oooh custome keycaps are awesome. Just have to find some nice ones. But the WASD barebone seems to be a good choice for me. But I will keep a lock out for the ducky as well. But yes this is expensive for us in Europe it seems. But I only need one good keyboard and then I'm at :)

>> No.53455729

I would choose the Legend, because of the aluminum case top. Ducky One is also a very good choice if its the non-backlit version with PBT caps.
But shine 4, 5 and regular backlit One wouldnt be bad choices either.

Just try to avoid the Zeros. They used to be nice budget keyboards, but since a year or so all the versions are comming with KBT switches instead of cherries.

>> No.53455864

Ok thx, Legend looks pretty solid, but 150 bucks, shit's expensive, yo. But if they hold longer than my Razer shit, it's probably worth it.

If I'm shelling out that much money though, it's probably worth considering the Shine as well.
Is it any better than the legend? Or does it just have RGB backlight, because that's not worth it for me imho.

>> No.53455892

Check geekhack, there's probably a guide there, they have tons of DIY

>> No.53456017

He clearly wants to know the difference between keyboards, not the mechanism

>> No.53456056

He should take a look at the OP in that case, there's literally an infograph about different switches right there.

>> No.53456070

Yeah, the difference is pretty much only the RGB..

Legend has blue leds, while shine 5 is RGB.
Legend has a aluminum top shell (bottom is still plastic), while shine 5 is all plastic.
Shine 5 has better keycaps, ABS doubleshot vs the lasered / painted ABS from the Legend.

If you wont be changing your keycaps with something better in the future, maybe shine V is a better option.

>> No.53456899

Just bought a Corsair k70
what am I in for?

>> No.53456958

a corsair k70, you just said it

>> No.53456967

Is it a good keyboard?
It looks pretty cool but the pastebin says /g/ hates Corsair

>> No.53457008

/g/ hates them because of the gamer aesthetic and the markup that usually comes with that aesthetic. the keyboard enthusiast community also trends towards smaller keyboards, and most gamer keyboards manage to be even bigger than standard fullsize keyboards

corsair at least manages to use actual cherry mx switches, so if you have to buy a gamer keyboard they're probably the best company to go for

if you like it, it's a good keyboard

>> No.53457034


forgot to mention that some of the key sizes are nonstandard (such as the bottom row) which means you'll have some trouble replacing the keycaps if you ever wish to do so

>> No.53458376

I'm pretty new to this but I kinda wanna buy into this meme. I know nothing about mechanical keyboards and use a free dell one. Would be happy if I could get some direction or maybe some models I could look at

I type and also play games a lot. I looked at the switches and the guides in the pastebin so I'm guessing I should get Cherry browns? like I said, I use a free dell one, so I have no experience in feedback or how hard I type, though I don't think it's light. It also says it's babbie's first, so I guess I fit there.

I looked in the mechanicalkeyboards.com place and the ducky shine 5 is a top seller and has browns, is it good? i don't really need the rainbow LEDs though, though some sort of backlight could be cool. Again, I have no experience with that. As to price range I guess I'd like to keep it on the lower end, but not really cheap, something around 100 like the guide says would be cool

All that said, can anyone give me some suggestions and feedback?

>> No.53458492

1. What size keyboard do you want? Can you live without the numpad? Can you live without the function keys? Can you live without the arrow keys?

2. Do you see yourself customizing your keyboard or just using what you're given?

3. Do you need some non-ANSI layout?

4. Are you OK with buying Chinese knockoff boards that might not as good in terms of quality but are a lot cheaper?

When it comes to switches, it's become a meme that browns are bad, so I'd recommend buying a switch tester (essentially a tiny board with a whole bunch of different switches on it), or buying your keyboard from somewhere where it'd be easy to return or swap it if you hate your switch choice.

>> No.53458565
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>tfw you came here to ask if I should get the Ducky One MX brown for my first mechanical keyboard

Wat do? I mostly play gaymes, shit post, work in a DAW and will probably never do any Real Programming

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>build awesome Compact SQ
>love it
>decide to add white LEDs because why not?
>all goes well
>esc key already has an led but decide to replace it in order for it to match colors
>rips solder pads out of one pin when I remove it
>new led can't be soldered down


How fix?

>> No.53458633

Scratch a bit of the trace to expose it and run a jumper wire.

>> No.53458635

Check the OP.
You should find your answer there.

>> No.53459112

What are some mac friendly keyboards?
Mostly just need something with a function key for media controls.

>> No.53459391

I'd like a full one, I believe I use the ISO layout, but if it's too limiting or much more expensive, I can convert. I'd like to keep this for a long time, so I'd like to get a good quality one at a decent price, the pastebin recommended ducky so that's why I mentioned it. As to the switch tester, it would honestly take forever to get it due to shipping. I'd rather skip it and adapt to the switch, since I don't think it can get a whole lot worse than the one I got, as long as I don't have to press too hard. Also thanks for replying.

>> No.53459712

Das Keyboard

>> No.53459754

A Ducky would be fine, although you can probably just get the Ducky One if you don't need the RGB of the Shine.

Coolermaster also has their XT series of fullsize keyboards, they're pretty popular when it comes to the popular brands (as you've probably read you should avoid Razer, Logitech, etc unless you have a reaally good reason).

Das (what other anon mentioned) and WASD also make full sizes, but they're more expensive (without arguably a good reason).

>> No.53460662
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Hey, normie here. I bought this last year on clearance after my wife spilled wine on my cheapo 7 dollar keyboard. Did I do ok? I seem to like it just fine but I really haven't done any comparisons.

>> No.53460713

Does it have cherry or shitty Razer switches?
If it's the old cherry version then it's alright.

>> No.53460843

Thank you, I'll do some more looking then

>> No.53461126

shit, idk. It was a bargain. I bought it for a third of the retail price so it was $40. For a $40 keyboard I can't complain regardless of what switches it uses.

It took some time to get used to from just being so used to using the cheap keyboards for so long.

>> No.53461168

I just ordered novatouch yesterday and i heard standart o-rings that goes with it are shit, why?

>> No.53461184
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pretty doody tier in terms of mks, but if it was $40 then good value for money

>> No.53461405

any reason not to get CM storm quickfire tk in cherry mx blue?

>> No.53461414

Good beginner board, really keep in mind how loud blues are though

>> No.53461427

would it be worth it to get it in green for the lower tone?

I only ever cherry mx reds and returned the kb right away when i realized they were linear (disgusting)

>> No.53461711

greens are a bit stiffer and I'm not entirely sure if it'll be much quieter, i'd recommend tactile switches over clicky ones, clears are my personal favourites, but brown is the best for a beginner board by far as it's medium in every way

>> No.53461824

>keys that click


>> No.53461950

People say greens are even louder than blues.

The click isn't really that bad desu. You get used to it (like other anon I prefer bumps though).

because it's fun anon. that's the whole reason we're into keyboards

>> No.53462001

>reading pastebin
"See the buyer's guide"

>> No.53462059

tell us what you want in three bullet points. don't let any of the bullet points be "i want a mechanical keyboard". demonstrate that you've done some research to make it even easier

>> No.53462516

Hey guys, why torpe switchers are worse in NT?

>> No.53462530

I want a basic, no frills mechanical keyboard, free from RGB 12 year old lighting options, macro keys don't bother me. I want it as plain as possible (ideally black and no faggy logos and writing all over it). It's going to be used primarily for primarily gaming, maybe the odd essay, some audio and video editing work, and that's about it

Currently looking at Ducky One key with brown switches, but im not sure how they will be (first mechanical keyboard ever). I don't care for clicking sound, but the Reds might be a little too weird with no tactile at all

>I've used Mac and budget keyboards my whole life

>> No.53462556

Is there a good cheap (<$90) 84 key mech? Preferably non-linear.

>> No.53462588

WASD V2 with Cherry MX Clears

>> No.53462634

yeah I'm kind of in the same boat. I don't care about RGB, though some backlight might be nice. Also tending towards browns

Which Ducky One is better? What about shine 4? The difference (besides the RGB) is the cap printing I think since they're both ABS, which method is better?

Someone said that the caps that came with WASDs were bad, and you should buy it without them and get a full set elsewhere, how true is this?

What's the difference between clears and browns?

>> No.53462722

you have too many options so I'll suggest some less common ones.

leopold fc660m is an awesome minimal keyboard if you can deal with the layout.

kul es87 is a good all around tkl

check out the varmilo va87mr on massdrop right now, maybe that tickles your fancy

if you require a numpad the ducky one is probably a good bet. you can also get the coolermaster tk for a little cheaper, but it's got some gamer aesthetic

coolermaster rapid or ganss G.S 87

>> No.53464214
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Roccat MK ryos
black switches

>> No.53464861
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as German you need to have Das Keyboard.

Comes with Cherry blue or brown and media keys with huge volume knob. Pic related.

>> No.53464960

Can I have sauce about the popularity of black switches claimed in OP's picture

>> No.53465846

Possible buyers template.


What to change/add ?

>> No.53466043
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>> No.53466133

Changed some formulations and mistakes.


Seems good to me otherwise.

>> No.53466264

Did anyone ever return a keyboard?

Amazon here has a 30 day no questions asked return policy.

I ordered a novatouch TKL 3 days ago but topre just doesn't do it for me... I tried to avoid any dirt and it's just a little dusty but I feel bad if I return it for a full refund now because it's such a niche product and they probably have to sell it as used even though I treated it best as I can

Or should I just stop being a pussy?

>> No.53466321

I don't see what's wrong with that. Thanks to you returning it someone else will be able to get it in just about mint condition but cheaper.

>> No.53466374

Why you didn't like it?

>> No.53466449

No need to feel bad about it. Allowing people to return stuff like that makes them comfortable buying, and a good experience returning something makes them more likely to buy from the same place again. It's a business practice that manages to be both good for business and consumer friendly; you making use of it is more akin to greasing the cogs than clogging them like you're afraid of.

>> No.53466758

Is the Realforce 87U a good choice if I don't like the layout of HHKB?

>> No.53466792

pls respond

>> No.53466983

The Shine 5 has better caps than the Shine 4, the Shine 4 also has green and clear switch variants though, so if you want those you'll want to get the Shine 4.

WASD caps are thin ABS, they're not worth the price at all.

Clears are far more tactile and heavier, browns are light and have a barely noticeable tactile bump that makes them feel like dirty reds. See the OP for the difference between switches.


>> No.53467010

ITT memes.

>> No.53467093
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This is correct.

>> No.53467171

Should I go for 45g or 55g?

>> No.53467194

If you don't mind 55g switches I'd go for that (55g isn't really that heavy, I've used clears and am currently using 45g Topre). I wouldn't mind things being a bit heavier, but I don't mind the lightness of the switches.

Though I do hear that 55g feels snappier.

>> No.53467226

Isn't it fairer to call browns 55g and clears 65g? Considering that's the force required to clear the tactile bump.

>> No.53467252

You don't really need to bottom out the switch (or even move all the way past the tactile bump) to active the switch. Thus their weighting is defined by the force required at the actuation point.

>> No.53467273

Actuation point still comes after the peak of the bump, no?

>> No.53467317

You do have a point there. Now you'll just have to go complain to cherry or whoever decided to define the switch weightings like that.

>> No.53467399

I've seen it vary between different switch guides. Sometimes it varies even within the guides themselves. It's pretty rough on people reading up on switches trying to make an educated guess what they'll be happy with when they can't try them out beforehand.

>> No.53467413

I'd imagine that having to imagine how heavy 55g is as opposed to 45g would already be quite difficult.

>> No.53467448

>tfw type like a fucking gorilla and don't even feel the tactile click on blues
>tfw have to bottom them out because they're extremely light
greens or clears or buckling spring here I come

>> No.53467449

Yeah. Of course, often people have tried at least one switch which they can use as a point of reference. I for example have no shortage of gamer friends, which to no surprise means there are several keyboards with red switches I could sample if I wanted to.

>> No.53467512

It still seems like it'd be rather difficult to get an idea of how 55g feels, even if you've tried 45g.

Something as abstract as a difference in resistance of 10g on a downward press seems rather difficult to imagine.

>> No.53467599

I suppose you're right. Still, it might help somewhat with the educated guesswork. "I would like something a little bit stiffer/lighter than these reds/blacks" or such.

After that they'll just have to wing it and hope for the best.

>> No.53467647
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Anyone heard of Qwazar? Pic related has Cherry Reds, plus backlighting. Looking for a decent keyboard without all the media/gayming meme macro buttons

>> No.53467775

>have a black switch that only actuates if it's bottomed out really hard
>it's the CTRL key so it's sort of a big deal
>hit it and yell at it and twist it around but nothing fixes it
>press down really hard on the switch on one side, causing it to buckle and tilt slightly on the PCB
>key works now


I haven't looked yet but I'm guessing bad solder connection

>> No.53467891

Okay guys, Retard here. I looked at the guides and stuff, and I think I'll go with the Ducky Shine 5 with the browns for muh gaymin, but people here said it's a dirty red and sucks, but clears are hard to find or out of stock everywhere. My retarded question is: Can I switch out the switches in that model if I decide I want clears later? The guide says I can buy caps all I want but doesn't mention the switches.

>> No.53467915

>Mechanical Keyboards

What's it like being a placebo cuck?

>> No.53467939
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>> No.53467954

Funny, I've been looking for a Ducky 5 shine with clears too - can't seem to find one anywhere for UK delivery. Anyone know of a good clears keyboard (full) as an alternative?

>> No.53468194

Anyone own the Rapoo V500 RGB? It's "Rapoo" keys but considering how similar the entire keyboard is to the Royal Kludge stuff, is it just Kalih switches?


>> No.53468289

do you have any type of dampeners on the switches since it's not a type s?

also how hard is it to get used to a layout like that?

>> No.53468451
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PROTIP: They give a 20% discount for students. Just take a picture of your id and send it in here: https://daskeyboard.mojohelpdesk.com/mytickets/create#/ticket-form/19790

>> No.53468699

it involves buying the clear switches separately and soldering them on (and desoldering the old switches)

if you don't like soldering or don't want to buy soldering shit, just wait

>> No.53468736

dang that's sexy.

>> No.53468787


>> No.53468802

in EU? everyone knows your pain.

>> No.53468803

It's as bad as audiophiles desu.

Fuck I should start selling mechanical keyboards and take advantage of these autists with too much NEETbux.

>> No.53468926

I don't think there's as much of a market for bullshit as there is with audiophiles. Most mech enthusiast know their shit and won't fall for obscure bullshit such as cables, especially since you're not getting "better performance" or something out of a keyboard.

Artisans on the other hand.

>> No.53468946

Ducky Shine 5 with clears doesn't exist. You'll have to desolder the switches and the LEDs and then resolder everything.

That, and I'm not even sure if regular clears are compatible with the LEDs used in the Shine since the cherry rgb switches have a modified housing to fit the LED.

>> No.53468980

Thanks for the info. Damn, and I beleieved their 'available with any type of key' bullshit.

>> No.53469080

but I can still change the caps right? Does having the cherry switches mean I should but the cherry profile caps?

>> No.53469097

>since the cherry rgb switches have a modified housing to fit the LED.
Actually I thought they said they'd put the LEDs on the baseboard for extended life.

>> No.53469153

The housing just has a hole cut in the bottom to accommodate the smd led.

>> No.53469223

shut up you fucking loser you don't know anything about keyboards so just go ahead and go Back to /b/ or neck yourself crazy idiot

>> No.53469326

Not a native speaker here so I highly appreciate.
Anyway, we need to add it to OPs

>> No.53469342

The Shine 4 is available in Clears, I have one myself.

Yeah, Ducky keyboards all have standard layouts. You can put any mx-compatible keycaps on your keyboard, and no, you don't have to get cherry profile keycaps because you have cherry switches. Any profile is fine

Cheers, thanks for going to the trouble of making one in the first place.

>> No.53469382

Thanks for the feedback, a lot of these small dumb things aren't in the pastebins so I feel kinda bad asking. Also not the guy who asked about it but I can't seem to find the shine 4 with clears anywhere, looks like anything that isn't the 5 is out of stock

>> No.53469399

browns are literally the worst cherries after reds.

>> No.53469466
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>> No.53469480

can you at least say why? no memes please

>> No.53469953
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Yeah, sellers probably aren't stocking up on the Shine 4 very much right now since greens and clears aren't that common switches and people who aren't interested in those are just going to go for the Shine 5.

They have the weakest tactile bump of all tactile cherries. Compared to any other tactile cherry they feel like linears, but compared to linears they feel like there's dirt stuck in the middle.

Browns are marketed as if they were quiet blues, but they really aren't.

Also, there's nothing wrong with reds.

>> No.53470064

Many years ago I returned an Acer on day one. It was so shitty that keys stuck right from the beginning.

>> No.53470088

How to properly clean a Cherry MX3000M?

>> No.53470105

The same way you'd clean any other mechanical keyboard.

>> No.53470168

>browns and reds are bad
You mean you don't like them.
For instance blacks for me felt like a shitty rubberdome

>> No.53470229

I didn't say anything bad about reds.

And yes, browns suck. Compare them to any other tactile cherry switch and you'll notice that browns have a weak as shit tactile bump. Get ergoclears if you want the weight of browns but with proper tactility.

On another note, I'm not sure what kind of rubber domes you've used in the past, because last I checked linear switches felt nothing like rubber domes.

>> No.53470317

Eh, i meant membrane
>browns are worst after reds

>> No.53470342

Membrane and rubber dome are not mutually exclusive, they're quite a common combination found in keyboards actually.

>> No.53470438

I have very cheap sven keyboard that i bought 5 years ago and it only has PS/2. Blacks felt exalty like it.

>> No.53470446

membranes feel like lazy topre

there is no linearity, there's just up or down

>> No.53470557

Rubber domes are tactile though.

>> No.53470815

also, learn to desolder.

>> No.53470877

>cherry reds plus backlighting
>looking for a kb without gayming memes
nigga you just went full topre

>> No.53471113

nope, I've thought about padding it, but I love the sound currently. It took about 3 days to really get used to it. The backspace being on \ is so much nicer.

>> No.53471205

Typing on a K70 with brown switches right now.
Good keyboard desu, /g/ wont admit it though because they like keys with no back lights or letters on the keys and they have to be under a foot long and made by some random chink vendor that no one has ever heard of.

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>> No.53472485

Huh, my Noppoo Choc Mini with Gateron Blues has a different colored switch in the spacebar. Does Gateron make greens?

>> No.53472512

Yeah, they were on massdrop just recently.

>> No.53472519

Ah OK. Well I guess then I got green spacebar!

>> No.53472622

I want to buy 2 items off Amazon, but one of them isn't listed on my coutry's website. Should I order both on a foreign Amazon website, or should I order one of each items on different websites?

>> No.53472833

as long as it ships to where you're at, just go with what ever is cheaper in total.

>> No.53472873

It's import into the EU.
Would I pay more customs charges given 2 separate packages?

>> No.53472921

Hey mkg
So I learned that my dad wants a new keyboard and came to me for advice. But he doesn't want to spend much more than 60. Prefers full sized and backlit. Also nothing that looks like gamer shit. Pls help before he buys a shitty logitech membrane.

>> No.53472939

Depends on local laws, usually it depends on summarized price so it wouldn't matter. It might be different at where you're from though.

>> No.53473001

Looks like CM Quickfire Rapid is the way to go

>> No.53473002

>nothing that looks like gamer shit
pick one, anon.

>> No.53473283

Lets drop backlit. And just keep fullsize, close to 60. (max at 70). Rosewell and CM are obvious, is there any chink brand shit that might still be decent?

>> No.53473287
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>Did anyone ever return a keyboard?
Pic related. Felt like garbage.

>> No.53473322

jsut bought the VA68M on massdrop, so excited!!

>> No.53473356

i want it but it's so expensive

>> No.53473366


someone tell me the actuation point of K120

dont give me a bunch of bullshit, just give me the official testing and so i can tell if Reds or Browns are more close

those are the only 2 that are an option cause i dont want noise, but i want to know if reds are closer

also it'll have to be a lowprofile keyboard cause i started on a laptop and like the close/lowprofile aspect of it, also i take it to-and-from my knees since i have a based recliner station

>> No.53473447

Your K120 actuates at the bottom of the keypress, I don't know how much travel it has, so I can't tell you how close this will be to mx-style switches.

mx-style switches (all of them) activate halfway into the keypress at 2mm.
This is no matter of reds or browns being closer, they're both the same in terms of actuation.

If you want a low-profile keyboard, get some low profile keycaps or the cherry mx board 3.0 which has low profile stock caps (wasn't a huge fan of them personally).

And browns have the weakest tactile bump of all tactile cherries, if browns or reds are the only things you are considering, go for reds.

>> No.53473462

yeah, I know. Planning to sell my other boards to justify that one.

>> No.53473483


i guess i meant the pressure to reach the bottom of that press

or anyone who's typed on both, is the red better then since it has no "click" feel and you can just bottom out type?

>> No.53473499

you can "bottom out type" on any keyboard.

>> No.53473534

Oh, I'll doubt you'll find measurements on that anywhere since this varies a lot between different rubber dome keyboards. You could measure it yourself with some weights though.

Reds and Browns are the same in terms of weighting though, it's just that browns feel like reds with dirt stuck in the middle.

>> No.53473624


okay ill probably get this


what are "good" 3rd party board makers or is Cherry always the most reliable/warrenty

>> No.53473758
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Ducky Zero master race

>> No.53473792

There's plenty of companies making good keyboards. Filco, Ducky, Cooler master (the non-backlit ones) just to name a few. There's a lot more out there.

>> No.53474080


are they like the GPU world, where its better than the stock boards?

or do they have to have a "standard" before cherry allows them to be made?

also its highly unlikely i wont just buy MK120's for the rest of my life (actually didnt even know about the MK till recently) since my mouse usually wears out or gets old after a while and my keyboard's USB cord usually wears out cause i move it to-and-from my lap and the cord is hanging alot, but the K120 design has it sorta looped around a bit to take the snap off th actual entry point

i dont suppose theres any technology that allows for battery-less mice and keyboards is there? like something that can charge via the bluetooth or wifi connection

>> No.53474167

>>are they like the GPU world, where its better than the stock boards?
>or do they have to have a "standard" before cherry allows them to be made?
No, nothing of the sort is the case.

There are some bluetooth keyboards. Check out matias (uses alps clones instead of cherry switches) keyboards or filco or varmillo keyboards, I think they also have some bluetooth keyboards.

And no, there's no keyboard that can be charged via a wireless connection. If we could charge devices via bluetooth or wifi we wouldn't need charging cables for anything.

>> No.53474181

>i dont suppose theres any technology that allows for battery-less mice and keyboards is there?

>> No.53474203

>what is wireless charging
1990 called, they want you back.

>> No.53474211

There is; it's inductive charging. It wouldn't make a lot of sense for a keyboard, but it works for a mouse.

>> No.53474227

duh, that's my point, you can put inductive charging in anything if you want to. the modules cost so little these days and it's easy to diy.

>> No.53474265

Let me know once I can charge my phone or laptop over bluetooth then.

>> No.53474291

and stop being pants-on-head retarded

>> No.53474824
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>> No.53474858

not him but what's a topre?

>> No.53474881

glorified membrane keyboard

>> No.53474895

weird-ass hybrid switches

>> No.53474985

They improve ergonomics a ton. I used a keyboard without them once and got my best speed at the time after I shoved my 3DS under it for a better angle.

>> No.53474994

jealousy running rampant.

>> No.53475048

a dank meme

>> No.53475059

found the memeboy

>> No.53475175

whats up buddy. its ok to be jealous. I don't blame you.

>> No.53475830

Bumping this

>> No.53476044

What are the most silent switches? Matias touts their Quiet Click switches as the quietest ones available, but I imagine you could get something less noisy if you're willing to mod.

If the answer is a linear switch, then repeat the question for nonlinear.

>> No.53476088

Matias QC or silenced topre. gonna be your only choices for quietest.

>> No.53476222

What shop is that?

>> No.53476587
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No fuck off
Use this

>> No.53476631

I never formally learned typing, I mean I can type English characters really well at about 80-90 wpm actually writing something and about 100wpm copying something relatively simple but using numbers and special characters (like in programming) I end up slowing to a crawl because I just constantly mistype, I'm not sure what's wrong, is there anyway to fix that? Like typing practice that is specifically for programming? And how soon can I expect results? Am I just doomed to type at 40wpm programming? I see people at demo conventions typing writing lines of code at blazing fast and I can barely keep up with the program let alone imagine who they're typing that quickly.

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>> No.53476739
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Here we go, now they're purples.

>> No.53478421

Go try it on a shop.
or just return it if it actually feels shit.

>> No.53478500
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Ignore the haters. I bought mine with Cherry MX Green switches. This keyboard is much better than i expected. I'll replace the keycaps when the Vortex Translucent PBT+POM Double Shot Keycap Set becomes available. (currently out of stock)

>> No.53478564

>sandals with socks

opinion discarded

>> No.53478599

Any recommendations for an assembled othrolinear keyboard? The planck seems cool but I don't know if they can be pre-assembled.

>> No.53478605
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>not trying to emulate your lord and savior, based Linus

>> No.53478665
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Does your projector screen blue LED backlighting really match your keyboard backlighting? I wasn't aware this level of autism existed in this general.

>> No.53478776

HOLY SHIT i just spent fifteen minutes getting my backspace key back on

fuuuccckkk costar stabilizers. i'd rather my cherry stabilized switches be as mushy as an HP keyboard

>> No.53478816

>not backlighting your view screen


>> No.53478905

I have a Corsair KGB 65 and it's honestly pretty sweet, cherry Reds. I am now reading though that Gator on reds are better so I might have to switch. Are they that much better?

>> No.53479049

Jack actually used to tell assembled Plancks at some point, guess not anymore (especially after they got swamped due to their kickstarter).

Anyway dude, if you get the PCB it just becomes some soldering, not a big deal. A soldering iron is the kind of tool you should own regardless anyway.

>> No.53479070

wizard sandals + socks are a pretty reasonable compromise for a lazy day. socks keep your feet warm in the chilly months and sandals let you go outside to check the mail, shit the dog, or w/e.

>> No.53479391
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This is just wrong man.

Practice. Pic related allows you to train with puntuaction characters.

>> No.53479884

Pree fuckin nice mang.

>> No.53480424

There a couple of sticky keys on my Storm Trigger (plate-mounted).

I'm considering to try to lube externally around the actuator (pressing it down and applying a small amount amount of grease on the internal perimeter), would that be a wasted effort?

I could borrow a desoldering iron with some ease but I'm not very confident in using it. Any suggestions besides that last resort?

>> No.53480478

Anyone have any good resources for learning about circuitry?

>> No.53480689
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G'day /mkg/

>> No.53480856
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Cleaning is pain in the ass

>> No.53480863

Mine is coming in a couple of days!

>> No.53480890

New thread


>> No.53480913

Why'd you make a new thread already?

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>memechanical memeboards

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Hope you like it Anon, mine is really nice so far.

>> No.53482813

I heard thred isn't ded, so I'll ask here as well.

Should I buy a Cherry G84-4100? Is it any good? I like the size and the compactness, it would be perfect for my tippity work (translator, so not many numbers)

>> No.53483176

Is that a Qisan?

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