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What's /g/ opinion on Telegram Messenger

>> No.50277677

>>50277641
cyka botnet

>> No.50277765

It's the best multiplatform IM client I could find, there's a good chance they don't spoof on what users talk about if only to make statistics. I wish the development was faster though, especially the desktop version.

>> No.50277801

They roll their own crypto so that's a huge red flag

>> No.50277884

>>50277765
>desktop version
you normally use this for secure chat
there cant be a connection to more than one device dip

>> No.50277918

>>50277677
xaxaxaxa cyka blyat

>> No.50277951

>>50277884
...what?

>> No.50277973

Security is an issue since they use their own homespun protocol and regular messages aren't end-to-end encrypted. But I still like it a lot. The reply feature is especially useful in long group chats and multiplatform support is great.
We actually have a /g/ Telegram group but we stopped posting the link here because you faggots kept spamming.

>> No.50278091

>>50277641
This thread gets posted at least once a week.

Fuck telegram botnet. No true private chat in mobile and their crypto is dodgy as shit.

>> No.50278095

>>50277973
Nah, your generic arch ricing club is so elit3.

>> No.50278179

>>50278091
>chat
>true private

Pick one.

>> No.50278196

lel all the people here complaining about their crypto without knowing a single thing about it just because an angsty blogger blogged a blog about it

>> No.50278216

>rolling their own crypto
>not open source

garbage

>> No.50278276

Feature-wise is the best multiplatform IM.

Security-wise I don't know. I know I should care, but actually I prefer russians to have my data than US, since they have less influence on my country.
And, as much as I hate to use this argument, I have nothing to hide in my messages.
If I had secret messages to send, I'd look into something else.

People usually complains about the small userbase.
Most of my friends migrated to it, and lately on facebook (yeah, yeah, normie, REEEEE, I know) I've seen an infographic about the benefits of telegram over whatsapp being spammed around and I've seen a big wave of new users, so the small userbase may change soon.

>> No.50278403

The question marks regarding their encryption as well as the fact they don't end-to-end encrypt by default makes me stay away from it.

Although it's not like I know of any good messaging solution. I'm running with Text-Secure but it has its own significant caveats.

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50278477

>Homebrew crypto system
Never trust a new crypto system which hasn't been proven by time yet. Being lulled into a false sense of security is what cost Mary, Queen of Scots her life.

>No encrypted group chats
It does support encrypted one-on-one chats, but that brings me back to my first point. Don't use it if you expect to have proper crypto.

>> No.50278502

>>50278403
*TextSecure
And a lack of features are more like shortcomings than caveats.

>> No.50278527

depends on what kind of security you need, don't they require your phone number? for example if you wanna exchange illegal goods I would use a client where you can sign up by email, or don't even need anything like Kik, even if their Base security is basically non existent.

>> No.50278605

>>50277641
its OK, but nobody uses it so it doesnt matter

>> No.50278717

>>50278091
This.
Just use Textsecure/Signal.

>> No.50278751

>>50278276
post infographic pls

>> No.50278789

>>50278502
I'd call the reliance on GCM a caveat if anything.

>> No.50278799

should come installed in every device

>> No.50278834

>>50278751
It's in italian though, and partially wrong if I recall correctly.
It's about
>price
>cryptography
>secret chats
>file size and type you can send
>desktop and webclients
>diffusion
>OSS
>group size
>space used on phone

I would have add something about stickers, bots and reply function, but whatever

>> No.50278848
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50278848

>>50278834
Forgot image

>> No.50278859

>>50278789
Lol, I thought you meant Galois/Counter Mode. How is Google Cloud Messaging a caveat when you've such beautiful crypto? I'd imagine people would sooner miss features like 'stickers' or decent video upload.

>> No.50278866

>>50278848
Someone translate this into freedom language plz.

>> No.50278883

>>50278859
The fact that you need gapps for it to work, for one.

>> No.50278899
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50278899

>>50278866
Here's one for you: https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard

>> No.50278917

>>50278883
Hmm, if true that might very well be a caveat... Thanks, anon.

>> No.50278995

>>50278899
Yeah, too bad EFF are a bunch of corporate-ass-licking twats. They didn't even bother to mention the Dindows 10 "all you data are belong to us" affair.

>> No.50279060
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50279060

>>50278995
They left that to the FSF, don't worry.

>> No.50279074

>>50279060
FSF? You mean the source that can be waved off with

>well of course they will promote free software no matter what

>> No.50279079

>>50277641

Better than 'what is application'

>> No.50279104

>>50279060
>Delete programs
Happened to me already. Not even a pirate.

>> No.50279108

>>50277641
Boring WhatsApp clone, always attacking the big one instead of showing off better features.

>> No.50279199

>>50279108
>whatscrapp is multiplatform
>it's not owned by feacesbook
>other implications

>> No.50279233

/g/group? I'd like to add please

>> No.50279255

>>50279233
Yeah, m-me too pls.

>> No.50279259

>>50277641
Love it, honestly

Not too sure on their Cryptography, but better than Facebook's Whatsapp

>> No.50279261

>>50278216
Isn't everything open-source except for the server they use? They didn't want kiddies spoofing telegram servers or somthing.

>> No.50279312

>>50279233
>>50279255
Trust me guys, you don't really want it.

>> No.50279316

>>50279074
Yes well, we all need something to hate, don't we?

>> No.50279378

On a related note, what's the best video chat app, with android and windows desktop versions?

>> No.50279533

>>50278179
this
just dont write about whatever you are ashamed of
>inb4 im a "i have nothing to hide" guy
you can weight off whats better to be a secret and whats not

>> No.50279559

xmpp with otr is better

>> No.50279650

>>50279104
Interesting. Could you give details?

>> No.50279925

>founded by the same people whose social network was effectively seized by the russian govt

>> No.50280265

>>50278276
>so the small userbase may change soon

Since when benefits means success?

Whatsapp has a huge userbase in Italy wich Telegram has not.

Fortuna che i miei amici sono su telegram e che la maggior parte di loro non usa quella merda di facebook.

>> No.50280319

>>50277641
botnet

>> No.50280512

>>50280265
Since when this get spammed and I see it shared by lots of people.
Not really success, but the days I saw half my "friends" share that image, at the same time I saw a big increase in my contacts, which almost doubled in a couple of days.

>> No.50280650

>>50279650
Was just a game. Not a big deal, but annoying.

>> No.50280668
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50280668

Remember those Tox threads in /g/ that were posted like every day? Whatever happened to that?

>> No.50280676

>>50280512
So do most of your friends use telegram now?

>> No.50280967

It's not private. As long as you realize that it's the best multi-platform Im there is.

>> No.50281038

>>50280676
Yes.

>> No.50281045

>>50281038
Good.

>> No.50281077

>>50280967
>multiplatform
>forces you to have a phone

>> No.50281164

>>50280650
What game? And are you positive it was due to the Windows removal thingamajig?

>> No.50281165

>>50281077
That's because the ID is your phone number. It's not like Skype, you know.

>> No.50281537

>>50281164
Minecraft. More specifically, techniclauncher. Microsoft is trying to get me to install the "Minecraft App" so maybe that's it.

>> No.50281555

>>50281537
That's pretty nutty. Thanks for sharing.

>> No.50283379
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50283379

>>50277641
>Using Phones
>Literally Botnet no matter what OS or apps you use
>not using a pocket pc to Rice your loonix all day

>> No.50283419

>>50279108
Telegram is better than WA on many levels.
>Supports end-to-end crypto (unfortunately optional).
>Uses less bandwith and you receive and send messages faster.
>Multi-plattform and multi-endpoint. All of your messages are reliably synced to literally all of your devices. Meanwhile you can't even us WA on your tablet.
>Group chats are far better. You can create public group chats with invite-links and unlike WA it won't just tell any member your phone number unless they know it already.
>Bot support, which is surprisingly useful for things like polls or public chats.
>You can send huge files (up to 1.5gb) and once you've sent them once they can be forwarded to others without re-uploading.
>The protocol and the clients are open-source. As a result the selection of clients is huge. There are terminal-clients, a plugin for Pidgin, even a Telegram-Daemon (you can use for easy bot implementations) and a clients for really obscure phone operating systems like Jolla.

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