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Wishmaster edition

Buyer's Guide: http://pastebin.com/QJD7fSGU
Where to Buy: http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
Switch Guide: http://i.imgur.com/DHfyMqP.gif
FAQs: http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp

>> No.49662797

Fucking hell, dude. How and when did you get that industrial SSK?

>> No.49662835

>>49662797
Not him but industrial SSKs aren't exactly that rare; you just have to be willing to spend the money.

>> No.49663011
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49663011

I just bought my first mechanical keyboard. KUL ES-87 with green switches and I am very excited.

>> No.49663024

>>49662645
Nice. I just picked one up myself, need to M13-ify it.

>> No.49663040

why do people want ssks or any buckling spring for that matter?
have fun with your self inflicted RSI

>> No.49663126

>>49663040
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>> No.49663191

>>49663040
Why do people like things that I don't like?

>> No.49663285

>>49663040
muh /g/ cred
gotta grasp at a sense of superiority somehow

>> No.49663327

>>49663285
>gotta grasp at a sense of superiority somehow

Isn't that what you're doing?

>> No.49663373
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49663373

fuckin osu and these shitty keycaps

>> No.49663670

>>49663011
Just purchased one myself about 3 weeks ago. All I can say is very good build quality, I love it.

>> No.49663715

cherry switches under $100? is this possible?

>> No.49663754

>>49663715
You mean a keyboard or just the switches?

>> No.49663841

The CM Storm Quickfire Rapid-I with MX Brown switches I ordered yesterday just came in. I'm loving it so far - I can't see myself ever going back to a membrane keyboard.

Thanks for converting me.

>> No.49663858

>>49663754
keyboard

>> No.49663994

>>49663841
Enjoy your leds while you can.

>> No.49664049
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>>49662645

where is the website some anon did with all the info?

>> No.49664157

>>49663994
I don't use them.

>> No.49664317
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>>49663715
Data911. 75% keyboard, mx blacks, used on eBay for ~$25.

Cons-
-Used by police, so can be very dirty
-shit keycaps
-weird design
-has a rubber spill protector (makes the board feel like rubberdomes, but removable)

>> No.49664342
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>>49664317
That thing is ugly.

>> No.49664387

>>49664342
but cheap and useful for hooking up to a phone/tablet because of the touchpad

>> No.49664474

Are wasd keycaps good?

>> No.49664529

>>49664474
They're amazing.

>> No.49664588

>>49664474
You get what you pay for.

They aren't PBT and they aren't thick.

However, they do seem to be pretty consistent.

The whole thick/PBT keycaps thing is partly a durability thing and partly a taste thing. You might find that you actually like the feel/sound of a thinner cap. Also, light shines right thru them.

>> No.49664698

>>49664474
Like >>49664588 said they're ABS and thin. If you want custom printed keycaps they're the best you'll find, but if you want regular keycaps don't get WASD. There are so many better options.

>> No.49664717

>>49664698
I want pink ones

>> No.49664761

>>49664698
Not >>49664474
but curious about ordering them for a Planck with white LED's, but I might bail on ordering LED's.
>Only reason I was thinking about LED's was programming my own light sequences for macro modes.

>> No.49665027

>>49664717
Ducky makes pink PBT.

>> No.49665268

>>49662835
Did I say it was rare?

>> No.49665321

>>49665268
rude

>> No.49665333

>>49665027
I only can find pink/white set

>> No.49665348
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49665348

Why are Torpes so much cheaper in Japan?

>> No.49665427

>>49664761
Also is the space bar on a MIT layout the same size as any shift key on a normal layout?

>> No.49665449

>>49665348
Because they're from Japan.

>>49665427
No.

>> No.49665482

>>49662645
That an Ellipse keyboard?

>> No.49665491

>>49665449
what is the equivalent if there even is one?

>> No.49665522

>>49665491
It's a 2u cap. I guess you could consider it equivalent to the wide zero on a tenkey.

>> No.49665569

>>49665522
Okay so where I'm going with this is I'd like to order a custom keycap set from WASDkeyboards and try to get everything I want printed on the right keys, and then use a couple fun ones from my free-be Kinesis

>> No.49665910

>>49665321
:^}

>> No.49665961

Allright so I decided to make a replica JD40 from Ortholinear but I cant decide on which caps to use. Primarily, should I force a mixup with one of the sets that I have, or just buy the kit from PMK?

>> No.49666003

I want a blue LED backlit 65% keyboard that has PBT keycaps and cherry mx brown swtiches.

What do?

>> No.49666648
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49666648

Does an 80% with blue LED and clear switches that isn't complete shit even exist?

>> No.49666680
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49666680

Model F for sale on ebid for a good price

http://us.ebid.net/for-sale/ibm-at-model-f-keyboard-130420757.htm

Seller has 0 feedback...

>> No.49666757

>>49666680
I've never heard of this site.

>> No.49666885 [DELETED] 

>>49666648
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=539

>> No.49666903

>>49666680
i would never buy one of these

with that said, i hope the buyer really takes care of it. im sure thats worth someone to something, so i hope it goes into the right hands.

>> No.49666926

>>49666757
It's an Asian auction site, but the seller is from New York.

>> No.49666981
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49666981

>>49663373
You should've got some good ABS caps

>> No.49666993

>>49664474
More than worth the money, especially if you get them laser printed. DON'T fall for the PBT meme.

>> No.49667381

Never owned a mechanical keyboard before, but I've just ordered a Corsair RGB K70 with Cherry MX Reds. Primarily for gaymen, but I'm sure it will still be a considerable step up from the scizzor switch keyboard I'm using at the moment even for typing.

How did I do /g/?

>> No.49667392

I want a tenkeyless but I'm a casual so I don't know what switches to go with

blue sounds nice with the clicking but I don't think I actually want the clicking noise, just the feel

wat do

>> No.49667399

>>49667381
>How did I do /g/?
>Corsair
i'm sorry

>> No.49667416

>>49667392
Linear - Red
Tactile - Brown
That's all you need to be concerned with.

>> No.49667482

>>49667399
I honestly haven't been on /g/ for about a year, before which I was a regular on here. Back then /g/ loved Corsair, am I missing something on their recent reputation? I know they changed their logo to Corsair Gaymen and it looks kinda shit, but any other reasons?

>> No.49667520

>>49667416
alrighty I'll just get browns then

>> No.49667543

>>49663011
amazing board
just put my new keys on mine and it looks amazing and feels so good to type on
make sure you get some new keys, the stock keys are really bad

>> No.49667982

>>49667543
I'll be doing the same, I'm just waiting for something good to come up on Massdrop.

>> No.49668031
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49668031

>>49667982
dont forget to check out gh, thats where i got mine
lots of good stuff
heres my board, i posted this in the last thread but ill post it again

>> No.49668068

Should I just get the CM Storm quickfire Rapid instead of the Rapid-i? I don't give a fuck about backlights

>> No.49668235

>>49668031
>i posted this in the last thread

Hueh.
Did you get your bank account back?

>> No.49668268

>>49668235
my bank account is ok i just cant log on to my account lel
i went to get some cheese fries from a mexican place a few minutes ago and its ok.
i just gotta give them a call and its all good. to be honest it might not be because i fucked up logging in, this happened before and when i called they told me that my account was gone and i had to make a new one. weird shit

>> No.49668446

>>49667482

>QC issues
>Very poor quality keycaps that will shine in only a few months of use
>Fast fading/dying LEDs
>Buggy drivers that basically don't work
>RGB flickers after their "fix" update
>Nonstandard bottom row so you can't replace the horrible keycaps
>Expensive for a board with all these issues

See:
https://gfycat com/LightheartedSnoopyAnura

This is supposed to be a static colour scheme, not an animated one. Corsair can't make boards for shit.

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49668464

Can't wait to get my hands on TGR-Jane

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>>49668464

>> No.49668493
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>>49668481

>> No.49668523

Is there any reason to get a ducky apart from the lights? Do they have high build quality?

>> No.49668543

>>49668523
Average to above average build quality.

>> No.49668547

>>49668464
>>49668481
>>49668493
where is it even possible to cop?

>> No.49668561

> not topre
> 2015
ISHYGDDT

>> No.49668572

>>49668547
No where at this point. Your only hope is to buy off another user.

>> No.49668624

>>49668464
wasnt that shit like $400?
whats so good about it?

>> No.49668784

>>49668561

I'm considering a topre keyboard but I never tried one before

>> No.49668860

>>49668784
yeah once i get a better job im going to try out a 60% topre
ive always liked how a hhkb looked, especially with some nice keys

>> No.49668881

>>49668068
pls help

also how's the Ducky Zero DK2087

>> No.49668898

>>49668446
I did read about the QC issues with the previous version of the keyboard, especially with the LEDs dying. I thought they fixed that with the RGB version, which is pretty much the main reason I paid a £10 extra. (I found it on Amazon for only £110, which is pretty good value for what it supposedly offers).

From what I've heard the software/drivers are a bit buggy with this keyboard (and I suppose can be patched in the future), but the general opinion was that the keyboard's construction quality was excellent.

I'll do a bit more reading into those issues anyway, as it's not too late to cancel the order if I want.

>> No.49668952

>>49668898
>I did read about the QC issues with the previous version of the keyboard, especially with the LEDs dying. I thought they fixed that with the RGB version, which is pretty much the main reason I paid a £10 extra.
Hit or miss really. They haven't been consistent.

>From what I've heard the software/drivers are a bit buggy with this keyboard (and I suppose can be patched in the future),
Just look at that gifv Its been almost 2 years since they released the keyboard and it still has those issues. I don't know why you would put your trust in such a shitty company.

>but the general opinion was that the keyboard's construction quality was excellent.
Thats not saying much these days, most of the recommended boards in the OP will have a steel plate (making it sturdier than Corsair's aluminum plate) and have the same if not better build quality than Corsair

And you're still missing one of the most important problems listed in that list above, non standard bottom row. You will not be able to change keycaps easily and even if you can, you won't be able to get any good keycaps.

If your main reason for getting a Corsair board is the RGB, wait for the Ducky Shine 5, it has full RGB and will probably have none of those problems.

>> No.49669161

Does anyone know if there is a pink Stump Brocap?

>> No.49669199

>>49668952
I'd say the main reasons I chose this keyboard over something like the CM Quickfire series were that it has dedicated media keys, a wrist rest and genuine Cherry MX switches (as opposed to other RGB keyboards, but RGB isn't vital in my choice). It ticked all of the boxes and seemed to be of decent quality from what I heard from most reviews. I'm doing a bit more reading now to look for any other consistent flaws since Corsair seem to have quite a good refund policy on the keyboard (due to some of them having those issues you stated).

>> No.49669293

>>49664317
are those vintage cherry blacks?
shit I might just get one to gut it for the switches it that's the case

>> No.49669295

Has anyone purchased the pock3r from corus-kb? I ordered mine on June and it still hasn't arrived...

>> No.49669401

>>49662645
I like the blue on that Billet box and the wrist rest. Now all you need is a Dodge Challenger in Mopar blue to go with your Mopar SSK.

>> No.49669721

Just bought a Dolch kit for my poker i can't wait to get my hands on it neither
>>49668464

>> No.49669858
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49669858

i use razer blackwidow 2014 ultimate, there's nothing you can do to stop me

ayy lmao

>> No.49669883

>>49669858

ok

it's not a mechanical keyboard though

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49669914

>>49669883
ye it is, uses a cherry mx switch clone

>> No.49670267

>>49668784
>>49668860
topre is love
topre is life
nothing beats topre, anyone who says its overpriced rubber domes is wrong, 30g(gl finding a board), 45g and 55g all feel different, but none of them feel like cherry mx garbage or membrane trash
30g is most linear(fuck this japanese layout tho)
45g is pretty much linear, just tactile bump @ top
55g is most tactile

>> No.49670286

>>49669858
>i use razer blackwidow 2014 ultimate, there's nothing you can do to stop me

You're right we can't stop.

But you sure are stopping all chances of reproduction of your failing genes. I would say that is an even a better gift you give this world.

>> No.49670355

got a data911 coming in the mail here soon, p excited
gonna be nice to be able to completely disregard my shitty fucking laptop keyboard without using my massive fullsized rk9000, at least until my planck gets here

>> No.49670432

>>49670355
Is Data911 this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/121266006222

>> No.49670438

what's' the best mechano keyboard I can buy for under or equal to $20?

>> No.49670530

>>49670432
literally that one

>>49670438
not a whole lot of options (or any really) in that price range but if you bump up to 30 you can get the data911 that guy linked to. only downside is there's a splashguard on it you're probably going to want to take off. other than that you're shit out of luck unless you bump it to around 40 at the bare minimum. as far as cherries go though the data911 is the absolute cheapest.

>> No.49670631

>>49670438
That Poseidon one that kept getting linked in the last thread.

>> No.49671697
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R8

>> No.49671758
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49671758

I'm pretty set on buying the DAS Professional later this month. Probably MX Blue.

>> No.49671845

Why are browns so fucking god-like to type on?

>> No.49671862
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49671862

there's a Planck keyboard on massdrop, should I?

>> No.49671880

>>49668464
>>49668481
>>49668493


Are these esc/enter ABS?

>> No.49671881

>>49663858
Rosewill
Cherry MX Board 3.0
Quickfire TK

>> No.49671903
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>>49671862

>> No.49671919

>>49671697
Hideous, but if that's what you like that's cool.

>>49671845
Idk but clears are even better in my opinion.

>> No.49671967
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49671967

What are the best most top quality mechanical boards that doesn't look like children toys?

Recommend me few with good availability in EU.

>> No.49672632

>>49663373

doubleshots and even pbts are cheap nowadays. go get em! I always feel guilty about using vintage irreplaceable cherry doubleshots though when playing osu.

>> No.49673027

>get mechanical keyboard
>can't stop typing random shit just because typing is so pleasurable

Help!

>> No.49673127
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49673127

>>49668464
>That's a cool keyboard. Where did you get it?
>I built it myself.

>> No.49673290
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49673290

Serious question.

I'm considering pic related and I just can't see how you wouldn't miss dedicated F-keys, arrow keys and numpad? Do you guys just use the shortcuts and it's a smooth experience or do you generally not use those keys which is why you prefer the smaller keyboards?

>> No.49673306
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49673306

>>49668784
They are extremely overrated keyboards.

The people who buy them believe that owning one says something about who they are as a person.

>> No.49673323

>>49673290
Do you play games that allow the use of Fn keys?

>> No.49673386

>>49673323

Surely FN is a modifier that works regardless of whether or not a game allows it?

>> No.49673513

>>49673386
I'm talking about the row of keys F1, F2, F3,
In some games, you press the 1 key to do one thing, then press the 2 key to do something else and then you press F2 to do something else.

If your right hand is on a mouse, how are you going to press the FN key to access F2 in the heat of the moment during a game if you are playing that game on a Pok3r?

>> No.49673571

>>49673513

I don't know, I'm asking you guys.

>> No.49673598

>>49673571
You have your answer.

>> No.49673635

>>49673598

Uh, thanks?

>> No.49673653

>>49669914
le gaymen actuation maymay XDDD

>> No.49673708

>>49673635
>I'm considering pic related and I just can't see how you wouldn't miss dedicated F-keys, arrow keys and numpad?
The answer to this question is, "it depends". If you play games, yes. If you don't play games, no.
> Do you guys just use the shortcuts and it's a smooth experience or do you generally not use those keys which is why you prefer the smaller keyboards?
>The answer to this question is, "it depends". If you play games that require the use of F1, F2, F3, etc, using the Poker 3 is a pain in the ass.

>> No.49673727

>>49673708

Mm, I suppose that is the best answer I'm going to get. Thanks guys.

>> No.49673776
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>>49673708
>that last line of greentext

>> No.49673922
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>>49673290
I have exactly that keyboard, bo for it bro, its perfect imo.

I use shortcuts if im not using directly the programmed keys. In Poker3 and in a lot of mechs you can program your keys for doing whatever you like (let's say for example that you dont need or dont use so much the "Caps Lock" Key but you use so much End key and you think that pressing FN+N, that tbh is not that hard, is shit. ok then, you change it and thats it, now your Keyboard will always go to End if you press Caps lock. And that with all the keys)

There's even more, you can have several layers on your keyboard just in cse you dont want to have the keys configured liek this all the time, you may like to have your arrow keys on IJKL without having to press FN becouse... idk but for some reason. so you can have a normal layer (in poker3 you've got 4 layers, a default one and 3 programmables) and then another one for example for document reading or functions (Pic Related, my FN layer).

You swap between them simply by clicking only once fn+m for layer 0, fn+, for layer1 and etc etc

So yeah, my recomendation man is to do it, if you've got some doubts ill be arrount here.

>> No.49673958

>>49673290
None of the games I play use F keys "in the heat of the moment"

They use them for things like starting a match, voting, or quicksave/quickload.

For those purposes I was able to get used to using the FN+# pretty quickly.

I would say of anything I miss arrow keys the most. Although I used WASD for gaming, for some reason I haven't really gotten used to using FN+WASD for moving around text.

Overall I would say you need to assess your circumstances as to whether 60% or TKL is better for you. Put your current keyboard in your ideal position relative to your mouse/mousepad (overlap if necessary just to find the right position). If the arrow keys overlap with your mouse space, then 60% would benefit you, if only the numberpad overlaps, just go with TKL.

Personally I bought a 60% and have really enjoyed it coming from fullsize, but at the same time I have realized that I would be fine (or better served) with a TKL. I find that when playing games I put my keyboard far enough away from the mousepad that TKL wouldn't obstruct, and when typing at desktop I tend to move my keyboard closer, but then I no longer need to have as much mouse mobility so again I could accommodate TKL.

>> No.49673989

>>49673776
Don't you mean
>that second line of greentext

>> No.49674046

>>49671862
That would drive my gears up the wall

>> No.49674084

>>49673776
FIX YOUR FILE NAME GOD DAMN IT!

>> No.49674271

>>49671862
lol

>> No.49674445

>>49668464
>>49668481
>>49668493
es-87 levels of sexy, how much?

>> No.49674550

>>49674445
I think it went for something like 420 bucks a piece.

>> No.49674592

>>49674550
lol fuck that.

>> No.49674647

>>49671862
link fagot.

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>>49673290
This is the keyboard you are looking for.
>65%

>> No.49675399

>>49675217
Why would anyone buy that over a standard TKL? Especially when you trade the standardized spacing under the F-keys for some bullshit at the top with the Corsair logo.

>> No.49675419

>>49675399
because it has it's own row of f1 keys instead of sharing that row with number keys.
>filthy casual

>> No.49675422

>>49675217
and never buy keycaps again

>> No.49675589

>>49675419
I honestly am not sure if you are retarded or trolling.

TKL is not a 60%.

That board is TKL except with a fucked up layout that doesn't actually save any desk space, and a non-standard bottom row.

>> No.49675614

>>49675589
that board is listed under the TKL category on mechanicalkeyboards.com

>> No.49675633

>>49675614
I'm quite sure that you entirely missed his point.

>> No.49675668

>>49675589
>>49675633

60% keyboards are a subcategory of TKL

>> No.49675699

>>49675589
TKL keyboards are any keyboard that doesn't have a number pad. 60% keyboards are a type of TKL.

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49675887

>>49675668
>>49675699
Get fucked, shitters.

TKL refers to fullsize minus the numberpad.

>> No.49675916

>>49675887
that picture is wrong.

>> No.49675930

>>49675887
That's just an illustration of one person's opinion. it isn't fact. It is a fact that 60% keyboards do not have a number pad, which makes them ten keyless.

>> No.49675996

>>49675887
>calling 60%'s compacts

Well that just immediately invalidates that image.

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49676040

>>49675887
ahem. explain this then fagot

>> No.49676066

>>49675930
kek

>> No.49676202

Thinking about buying the Planck mechanical keyboard, mainly due to its size, look and programmability. I'm not sure about what kind of top plate and case that I want though, Brass or Stainless Steel ?
Will brass stain after a while ?
How does it feel typing on it ?

>> No.49676256

>>49673290
I use a 10 key-less keyboard to maximize desktop space. It's not that big of a deal to lose them for fps games. I don't know if I could live without arrow keys or my function keys. I could also see even a 10 key-less keyboard being a disadvantage for anyone who plays MOBA's. At the end of the day, do you think YOU could live with it? Because it's 50% personal preference and 50% what you're gonna do with it

>> No.49676317

>>49676040
75%, not tkl, learn your shit faggot.

>> No.49676359

>>49676317
That isn't a 75% keyboard. It's a 65%.

>> No.49676419

>>49676317
1. Go here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/mechanical_keyboard_overviews

2. scroll down until you find "For FULL list of Mechanical Tenkeyless keyboards see here"

3. notice that after clicking the link for Tenkeyless keyboards, you find a 60% category.

4. eat a dick

>> No.49676614

>>49676419
Haahahahahahahhahahahahahaha

I've never seen someone argue an incorrect position so well. +1

>> No.49677305

>>49676419
Wow, this guy is using Reddit as a source.

>> No.49677379

>>49677305
>muh super sekret club

>> No.49677821
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>>49676419
>leddit

http://deskthority.net/wiki/60%25

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Tenkeyless_keyboard

Eat shit.

>> No.49677859

>>49677821
Is this supposed to be an appeal to authority? It isn't that difficult to create a wiki.

That article isn't fact.

>> No.49677915

>>49676419
>Mechanical Keyboard Overviews
>Ctrl F PBT "Phrase not found"

u wot m8?

>> No.49677982

I'm looking for a "list of PBT keyboards"

I don't want to buy an ABS keyboard and then have to swap out the keycaps. I want keyboards that already have the key caps I want.

Does such a list exist?

>> No.49678164

>>49677982
Leopolds.
Varmilos.
Some keycools/noppoos
Vortex Pokers

>> No.49678378

>>49678164
Plus Realforce.

>> No.49678608

>>49669199
Got a K90 RGB since it was released here.
What was said about the gaming logo isn't true anymore, for newer versions of the keyboard where they have already replaced it with the old logo)

I have no problems whatsoever with the board, no dead LEDs, no flickering in color schemes like in the video and none of the problems that I've read about before getting it (it was released earlier in the US).

Just tested around to try and get my LEDs to flicker like they do in his video, they do that if I try to fuck up my color scheme badly, but they don't have any flickering at all when I'm setting it up correctly.

>> No.49678820

>>49671862
no

>> No.49678994

>>49678164
Deck

>> No.49679019

>>49671880
Yes, they're GMK esc and enter keys.

>>49673127
Do you think soldering is hard or something? Its really quite easy, a lot of people who have never soldered before have built their own boards in this thread.

>> No.49679044

>>49679019
>building it yourself
>costs nearly twice as much as having someone else build it for you

do you even derp?

>> No.49679080

>>49679044
Well thats the price you pay for full metal keyboards. Also, building it yourself makes it a lot more convenient to customize your switches rather than having to desolder everything first.

>> No.49679096

>>49679080
It's stupid
you're a moron
go away

>> No.49679106

>>49679096
>Stop liking what I don't like
Whats it like having the mentality of a 5 year old?

>> No.49679122

>>49679106
Only stupid people like what you like. If you had half a brain, you wouldn't like it.

>> No.49679141

>>49679122
You must be fun at parties Anon. Stay mad.

>> No.49679158

>>49673306
obviously someone hasn't owned topre and lives off their kailh switches
dont listen to this stupid anon
don't expect topre to be some transcendent keyboard, it won't bring you money and whores

>> No.49679163

>you will never have an industrial SSK Model M
>the model m you got off ejew was a buckling spring
>can't technically ask for a return because he didn't claim it was clicky or anything, just posted the model no. (which was correct)
>don't really care, it's still a killer keyboard and probably the best rubber dome ever made, only noticed when I popped a key out out of curiosity
>sometimes still crave that nice additional feedback and metal-ping of a buckling spring

Check them model numbers, /mkg/.

>> No.49679199
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49679199

>>49679163
>probably the best rubber dome ever made
Sorry m8, someone else already has that honour.

>> No.49679220

>>49679199
Best keyboard ever made pleb

>> No.49679223
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49679223

>>49679019
>mixing PBT and ABS on the same keyboard

>> No.49679240

>>49679163
wasn't*

Should have known something was up when it was like $10-$20 cheaper than the actual mech model m's. I didn't even know there were rubberdome model m's.

>> No.49679264
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49679264

Silly question coming through. I've been itching for the classic beige set for months. Now that the GB is up, it's been revealed that it's actually an ABS set from GMK (I had assumed that it would be PBT). Is GMK ABS somehow better than other ABS keys? Do they get shiny as quickly?

>> No.49679269

>>49679223
Mixing material doesn't really matter. Its mixing profiles that is fucking retarded.

>> No.49679277

>>49679264
abs is abs
trash

>> No.49679281

>>49679264
>Now that the GB is up, it's been revealed that it's actually an ABS set from GMK (I had assumed that it would be PBT)
Its been said that it would be ABS from day 1. No one has ever used the word PBT even a single time.

>> No.49679308

>>49679281
>(I had assumed that it would be PBT)
chill fam, he made a poor assumption
not everyone lives on the internet talking about what memecaps to buy for their mememxboards

>> No.49679309

>$125 for keycaps
What in the actual fuck?

>> No.49679317

>>49679281
I know, that was my mistake. I was drunk on hype.

>> No.49679320

>>49679264
GMK keycaps are by far the best available

>> No.49679331

>>49679264
Under heavy use they will shine only a little slower than cheap stock keycap ABS. The initial texture they have will slow down the wear but once thats through, it will shine normally due to the material durability.

>> No.49679467

>>49679309
It's a mental disability. Get out before you catch it too, anon.

>> No.49679789

>>49679158
I used a topre at work for 3 years. There is very little difference between a topre keyboard and Kailh reds. They are nearly identical. Also, you have never used Kailh reds. Your opinion of them being poor was formed reading /g/, not from personal experience.

Also, Kailh isn't the bottom of the spectrum, rubber dome is.

>> No.49679828

>>49679264
Its shit. Wait for the gaterons GB.

>> No.49679937
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49679937

>>49679320
>ABS
>best avalible

>> No.49680079

>>49679789
how is it working inside a keyboard?

>> No.49680256

>>49679937
>using subtier PBT with shitty typefaces and mismatched icons

>> No.49680387

>>49680256
>what is BSP
>what is Gateron
>what is Imsto

Even some vortex are way better then shitty ABS GmemeK.

>> No.49680408

>>49679789
haha thanks for being full of shit and trying to seek validation for your trash kailh switches by saying you've extensively used topre

>> No.49680479

>>49671862
I really don't understand the appeal. Is 60% not small enough?

>> No.49680738

>>49680479
I don't really get the appeal for using it as a keyboard, but I've seen some really nice setups for video editing/media creation macros.

>> No.49680742

>>49680387
>there are people

>> No.49680806

>>49679163
>>49679240
What model was it? Someone recently snagged a rubberdome F I wanted (missed the listing since seller used weird keywords)

>> No.49680837

>>49669401
>>>/o/

>> No.49681505
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49681505

>>49679158
>>49680079
>>49680408
>full RGB
RK RC930 87Keys Electrostic Capacitive Programable Gaming keyboard 45g 55g for Your Choice

http://www.banggood.com/RK-RC930-87Keys-Electrostic-Capacitive-Programable-Gaming-keyboard-45g-55g-for-Your-Choice-p-979480.html

>> No.49681530

>>49680806
>rubberdome F
I don't think there's such a thing

>> No.49681541

>>49681505
call me back when theres a non led version

>> No.49681556

>>49681505
>only $132
HOW IN THE FUCK????

>> No.49681575

>>49681556
It's a chink knockoff, dude.

>> No.49681589

>>49681556
It's not real Topre

>> No.49681615

>>49681556
I'm not saying its actually bad, I've never used it but here why:

- Knock off topre
- Probably no warranty/support
- Shitty body (I don't actually know this for sure, but if you look at the photos, the plastic gives off the same kind of shine as really low quality plastic)
- Questionable QC

>> No.49681629

THE MEMESAFD WONT SATOP !!

>> No.49681652
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49681652

>>49681505
100% real topre clone

>> No.49681692

>>49681541
>>49681556
>>49681575
>>49681589
>>49681615

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpeuC4o4iwk
>just listen

>> No.49681735

>>49681692
its sounds like someone shitting underwater

>> No.49681750

>>49681692
Listen for what?

>> No.49681807
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49681807

>>49681541
There is. Noppoo EC108-PRo.

>> No.49681893

>>49681692
Is that what Topre switches sound like?

>> No.49681977

>>49681893
The exact noise depends on the board, really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e00tujtWNI

>> No.49681982
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49681982

to cop or not to cop? preorders are up for $170

>> No.49682034

>>49681982
Is it really worth it to preorder a keyboard?

>> No.49682124

>>49681982
More homosexual than Richard Simmons.

>> No.49682139

>>49681982
RGB keyboards are so fucking ugly lmao

>> No.49682265
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49682265

That feel when new mousepad.

>> No.49682359

>>49682265
ha the size difference between the keyboard and mousepad is hilarious
anyway how is it?

>> No.49682501

>>49682265
what is the reason for having a mousepad this big? not trolling, i genuinely want to know because my mousepad is much smaller and i can move the cursor anywhere without running out of mousepad. is your cursor just set to a slower setting?

>> No.49682526

>>49682359
Not him but steelseries mousepads are indestructible. Mine gets abused moderately but I just wipe it off with a wet washcloth and it's good as new apart from being smoother in the heavily-used areas.

>>49682501
That's not even a big mousepad, just a small keyboard. I have one of the 19" mousepads because it was the only size available for the mousepad I wanted.

>> No.49682541

>>49681692
that sounds absolutely awful.

>> No.49682548

>>49682526
sounds good
when i get a bigger desk ill look into those
i have a decent pad from amazon but i would love a better one, just that my desk is small and i need the space for other stuff

>> No.49682571

Is a 40% keyboard like the planck more ergonomic?

I have manlet hands, 75% keyboard is kind of a stretch, but I'm pretty fast and accurate on 60%.

I wonder if 40% would get my wpm up and errors down.

So I guess is it better to have your fingers stretching when you type or cramped up for short reach?

>> No.49682727

>>49682571
>Is a 40% keyboard like the planck more ergonomic?
Thats not how ergonomics work. For it to be ergonomic you would need to change your default hand resting position.

>I have manlet hands, 75% keyboard is kind of a stretch, but I'm pretty fast and accurate on 60%.
I'm confused by this. 75% keyboards are the same as 60% keyboards except with more keys. The actual key locations and spacings are the same.

>I wonder if 40% would get my wpm up and errors down.
It won't change anything in terms of typing speed. The only real difference is layers for "missing" keys.

>So I guess is it better to have your fingers stretching when you type or cramped up for short reach?
The pressure on your wrist is more problematic typically than finger position.

>> No.49682799

>>49682727
75% arrow keys aren't on a different layer like 60%.

Escape key and f1-12 keys are also further reach.

75% is only comfortable for me when I don't go outside the 60% zone which is never, because I'm always using arrow keys.

It's easier for me to hit function layer

>> No.49682832

>>49682359
I've used a QCK, QCK Mini, and QCK Mass now. This is much thicker than the others, pretty fucking fantastic. And yeah, I love that look.

>>49682501
Low sensitivity Counter Strike, really.

>> No.49682889

>>49682799
Gotcha, well just a note for you, I would consider changing your term of "ergonomics" to something like "convenience" if you ask this question again. Since it seems like you're talking about liking having arrow keys on the homerow+fn rather than having to move your hand to the default arrow key locations; unless I'm misunderstanding that.

To answer your first question, I would say a 40% would work for you if you don't often have to enter in numbers. Having to switch between the number and alpha layer would be a real pain unless you hardly ever do it.

>> No.49682942

>>49682889
You're probably right on that.

Just wondering if I went 40% if my hands/wrists would be fucked in a year. I'm on my keyboard 10-15 hours a day. If there was a difference between that and 60%. Fatigue isn't an issue now with my 60%.

>> No.49683004

>>49682942
>Just wondering if I went 40% if my hands/wrists would be fucked in a year.
I don't really see why it would since for the most part 40% and 60% are pretty much the same in terms of hand placement and such.

>> No.49683048

>>49683004
I guess that's enough justification I need to buy another keyboard.

>tfw too many keyboards

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49683255

>>49682526
"steelseries mousepads are indestructible"
Going to need to disagree there, gone through 2 of them as the edges always fray away and the material separates after a year or so

>> No.49683324

>>49683255
>A cloth mousepad frays on the edges after a year

What an unexpected outcome.

They're 10 bucks, they last at least a year, and they're fucking fantastic while they're in shape. That's about the best a cloth pad is going to get.

>> No.49683575
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49683575

>>49683324
That's why i've been happier just using $1 artcows, lasts just as long and hey you can personalise it

>> No.49683640
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49683640

>>49683575
>everything about that keyboard
good lord

>> No.49683710
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49683710

>>49683575
so much this
$1 shipped, and it's surprisingly good quality regardless of the price

>> No.49683722

>>49683710
source on that doujin?

>> No.49683742

>>49683722
>>>/r/

>> No.49683922
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49683922

>>49682139
The white ones are. I can't wait for this bad boy to come out.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2lBdLJATB8

It's so hard to find a Black/Grey TKL Cherry MX with Gold backlighting to match my black tower with Gold LED fans.

https://www.frozencpu.com/products/12880/fan-853/BitFenix_Spectre_LED_120mm_Fan_-_Orange_BFF-BLF-12025O-RP.html?tl=g36c331s518

>> No.49683953

>>49683255
Yes, mine is frayed on the edge a little bit too but that's nothing when considering the amount of shit I throw at it.

>> No.49684137

>>49683922
Why do you keep calling it gold when the link says orange?

>> No.49684182

>>49684137
It looks gold in my computer. I added a few yellow LEDs to soften the orange.

>> No.49684192

>>49684182
So it's not gold, it's yellow-orange.

Gold implies metallic.

>> No.49684204

>>49684192
If you can find me a gold LED tower fan, I'm all ears.

>> No.49684284

>>49684192
>Gold implies metallic.

citation required

>> No.49684343

>>49684204
Man, I'm saying that gold is an oddly specific colour. It should be assumed that you wouldn't find a keyboard with that specific colour of backlighting.

>>49684284
The citation is right here, in my sphincter.

>> No.49684348

>>49684204
paint the blades gold and use a white LED.

>> No.49684501

Is there a place that sells keycaps with chinese layout without a keyboard attached to it?

>> No.49684529
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49684529

>>49684343
I want a black rig with gold LEDs specifically because it's hard to make and I think it would look cool. I want the back lighting to be subtle, conservative and and I want the tower and the keyboard to match.

>> No.49684581
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49684581

cleaned this one up today
anyone got a spare pause key for alps

>> No.49684603

>>49684581
buy a blank and etch the lettering onto it manually as a stop gap until you find a real one.

>> No.49684651

>>49684529
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/105

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49684659

>>49683640
At least try to conjeal your jealously my fiend

>> No.49684684

>>49684529
>>49684651

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03cSZgA4WXc

>> No.49684714

>>49684651
>>49684684

You're a genius. I love you so fucking much.

>> No.49684761

>>49684714
Ignore that fagot. Don't reinvent the wheel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iUL-Tkd3HI

>> No.49684803

i own a Corsair K70 RGB and i loved it.
did i fucked up?

>> No.49684841

>>49684803
>babby's first mech keyboard

>> No.49684843

>>49684803
Why?

>> No.49684871

>>49684841
actually yes, all my other keyboards were those 10 bucks keyboards from the supermarket

>>49684843
because i like it.

>> No.49684958

>>49684871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOSDCp4i1V8

>> No.49684973

>>49684958
is that a yes, you fucked up?

>> No.49684986

>>49684761
I want Gold LEDs inside my fans. What you posted is way too much. I want my rig to be more conservative.

>> No.49684999

>>49671967
Filco Majestouch

>> No.49685000

>>49684973
cross your fingers. the flickering issue only affects ~7% of people who bought that board.

>> No.49685021

>>49685000
uh...damn

>> No.49685134
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49685134

>>49685021
This is my keyboard. I fucking love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlnKehO-tjA

>cherry mx browns
>PBT
>backlit, but doesn't look like a ricer
>extremely heavy and has no flex when you twist it.

It's perfect. Best keyboard I've ever owed and I own 7 mechanical keyboards.
>protip: avoid ABS keycaps like the plague. they don't last.

>> No.49685226

>>49685134
>claims to have mx browns
>posts video with mx reds

you're a fucking idiot.

>> No.49685266
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49685266

>>49685134
>7 keyboards
>still hasn't bought a Topre
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=522

>grow up

>> No.49685308

>>49685266
Why would you recommend a Type Heaven over a NovaTouch?

>> No.49685318

>>49685308
Way cheaper for the same switches.

>> No.49685339

>>49685318
>Way cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823129034

>> No.49685354
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49685354

>>49685266
I own a Topre. It's great for writing papers, but I HATE playing Starcraft 2 with it. Dude, just watch this video please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWOsKzMgQuw

The reason I like Deck keyboards is because it's extremely easy to create macros with them on the fly. He shows you the functionality of this feature in this video and I think you'll be impressed if you can just set aside the fact that it 'only' has cherry mx switches and give it a chance.

>> No.49685370

>>49685339
That's still more expensive than a type heaven.
Plus it looks like that discount is premiere only.

>> No.49685384

>>49673290
Semi-related note: Where is the best/cheapest place to buy one of these in Canada w/ greens?

>> No.49685418

>>49685266
He clearly stated mechanical keyboards.

>> No.49685429

so i just bought a Logitech G710+ as an upgrade form my Logitech wave. did i do good /g/?

>> No.49685439

>>49685370
It isn't, it's a MIR. Even discounting that, it's still not "way" more expensive. At a seventeen-dollar difference, is the NovaTouch not worth it?

>> No.49685455

>>49685429
>good
That's a matter of opinion.

Mine is "no".

>> No.49685517

>>49685354
I liked the review more than I liked the keyboard. That guy was very thorough.

Who ever it was to move the F11 and F12 keys to an unconventional location is a crack head. That ruined the keyboard for me.

What a shame.

>> No.49685538

>>49685517
That's why I bought the full sized Hassium. It doesn't have that problem and it has the exact same macro functionality.

I'm very happy with it. I chose Cherry MX browns with blue LED backlight.

>> No.49686677

Guys! I got my Realforce 87U!

It's...okay...

>> No.49686678

I'm looking to replace my Corsair K70, because I got it like a year ago on a good deal and the keys aren't really sticking on at all. I don't really need LEDs, but it might be nice.

I'm currently looking at getting a Ducky Shine or CM Storm XT. Which one would be better? I'm pretty new to keyboard stuff, I prefer audio.

>> No.49687109

>>49681530
Actually, there is. It is marked and badged as a model F industrial, but uses Oak switches (discrete rubberdome)

>> No.49687835

>>49685439
I'm referring to the reduction from $200 to $166.
But if the novatouch is more expensive than a TH, why get the novatouch? MX stem compatibility is pretty much the only thing it has going for it.

>> No.49687864

So I ordered Lolita spyder.
Was I memed or is it going to be good?

>> No.49687875

>>49687835
>MX stem compatibility is pretty much the only thing it has going for it.
And that's not worth seventeen bucks?

>> No.49687905

>>49687864
the colors are not customizable. You are stuck with the LEDs looking exactly like the rainbow in the picture. Also, the swithes are Kailh, which is a cheap Chinese knockoff of superior German CherryMX switches.

You got memed so hard.

>> No.49687926

So I haven't seen this keyboard get shit on here nearly as much as it deserves, only the more common gaymur brands like razer and corsair

This thing
>Costs about as much as a realforce
>kailh switches
>huge meme spacebar
>muh LEDs
All of this shit just so that it can have an actuation point an entire half a millimeter higher.

Speaking of which, firmware mod to actuation/release points on Topre when?

>> No.49687946

>>49685318
but that flimsy making is a no go
is $50 that much to anyone here?
sure half of the kids here asked their moms for a 980ti to play league of legends

>> No.49687949

>>49687905
Not the rainbow version, a plain white one. I already feel memed.

>> No.49687956 [DELETED] 

>>49662645
wat is keyboard in pic

>> No.49687958 [DELETED] 

>>49687946
>is $50 that much to anyone here
More than a $50 difference.
I'd value the thing at $100 considering it's kailh

>> No.49687976

>>49687958
What weren't they both topre

>> No.49687984

>>49687949
what color switches?

>> No.49687995

>>49687976
I'm retarded and thought it was a reply to >>49687926 because I only read the (You) part

>> No.49688026

>>49687984
Brown

>> No.49688085

>>49687926
>firmware mod to actuation/release points on Topre when?
My guess is it would be hardware mod to adjust oscillation frequency of whatever signal spring "capacitor" is supposed to couple.
Higher frequency will give more response through spring and earlier actuation.

>> No.49688132

>>49688026
http://www.amazon.com/Storm-QuickFire-Rapid-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B0068INSUM/ref=sr_1_9?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1439620234&sr=1-9&keywords=cherry+mx+brown

You bought a Honda Civic. For only $30 dollars more, you could have bought a BMW 3 series.

>> No.49688160

>>49688132
>79-59=30

u wot m8?

>> No.49688170

>>49688160
German math.
He is more pedantic and matched switch type.

>> No.49688181

>>49688160
When you click the BROWN CHERRY MX Switches tab, the price goes from 79 to 89.

>> No.49688208

>>49679264

LOL its always been like that since the 80s

>> No.49688245
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49688245

>>49676040

The SIIG/Ortek is my favorite ALPS keyboard.

>> No.49688313

>>49688132
No, he bought a Kia. The Quickfire is more akin to a Honda.

>> No.49688399

>>49668031
Quick, where's the carot key?

>> No.49688447

>>49673127
I can't stand the assholes that do this. Soldering some switches to a PCB and screwing a case together doesn't mean shit. Design and etch your own PCB, machine your own case, carve it out of raw materials (within reason, you can't really make your own switches without sacrificing feels) to your exact preferences, then you can say you built it.

>> No.49688547

>>49688399
Shift 6.
If you don't automatically know $ and ^ off the top of your head you're a pleb who doesn't know regex and/or vim.

>> No.49688553

>>49688447
>Not building your own microprocessor from scratch

>> No.49688602

>>49688553
>not building your own scratch

Fucking plelbs.

>> No.49688843

>>49662645
so I fell for the /mkg/ meme
>get a 100$ cm quickfire
>blue switches, cause 110% danker sound and clicketyclatter
>typing feels great
>...except at night when everyone sleeps and my neighbour has inappropriate comments in the morning
>can't even page down without sounding like I'm bashing sheet metal
so I use my stealthy K120 at night

>> No.49688844

>>49688547
>quick
>12 minutes

>> No.49689168

>>49688843
>CM Shitfire
>a meme
Go back to Reddit.

>> No.49689829

>>49687864
Why would you do this.

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