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This is literally the only reason Linux isn't being used by every person on this planet. Once companies start developing for Linux and it's graphically amazing plus 60 fps on every Linux kernel in the world, Windows will start to be forgotten. Although Linux becoming more popular could potentially be a bad thing, I think it's worth it. Valve is about to release SteamOs, Is this worth trying? I feel like it could be a great step towards the goal of making Windows extinct. I mean I understand you'll need a Nvidia gcard but still! This is amazing! I understand that this should be /v/ but they wouldn't understand the post and it's importance like /g/ would. What do you guys think about gaming on Linux?

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>muh gaymes
When will you manchildren fucking grow up and get more interesting hobbies already?

>> No.46847689

>>46847660
The only games I play on GNU/Linux are CS:GO, some VNs, and older Windows games like Star Wars: Republic Commando.

Gaming for GNU/Linux is expanding, but slowly. It's time will come.

>> No.46847719

>>46847660
>>>/v/

>> No.46847750

If this were true people would be using Linux as workstations already

>> No.46847766

>>46847681
When math faggots like you can grow up and realize you aren't pushing any boundaries unless you are tenured and don't have to give a fuck.
>>46847660
Why would they not build the gun into the giant robot?

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>>46847681
Implying that I'm a man and above the age of 18. I love Linux not because I think it looks cool but because it has raw potential. We could make it king of we wanted to. Whether or not you play games is up to you but a vast majority of us do play games and would like to see development in the area of Linux gaming. IF YOU WANT LINUX TO SUCCEED THIS IS LITERALLY HOW YOU ATTRACT USERS COMING FROM WINDOWS AND OSX. THIS IS THE BEST POSSIBLE FIRST STEPPING STONE. Not everyone codes. Not everyone enjoys Linux. But if we combine the raw speed of the kernel mixed with genuine graphics rendering and it already being open source. There's no place to fail.

>> No.46847844

>>46847766
So you could have a wide arsenal of weaponry. You wouldn't have to build 100 different mechs for different weapons.

>> No.46847898

>>46847660
>games is only reason why linux isn't mainstream
bullshit
>you need nvidia gpu
bullshit <kinda, it's officially unsupported but you can "hack" it - just another day in the office for linux ati users>
>what do you think about gaming on linux
windows is superior for games. Still, i'm mostly playing on linux since
i don't like rebooting, even if i have ssd;
every game i play (besides elite dangerous) is either natively on linux or works flawlessly on one of my wineprefixes;
i have two wineprefixes and if game can be ran on wine, it probably works on first or second one.
But even despite fact i'm usually playing on linux, i'm not as stupid to think linux will ever be better for games than, let's say, mac.


By the way, did anyone except me noticed linux Bioshock Infinite in their steam libs? It was available for few hours like week ago, but before i managed to download it, game disappeared.

>> No.46847918

don't worry

when vulkan comes it will be the year of the linux desktop

>> No.46847936

Not true. The biggest problem is actually the fact that it is almost never pre-installed, thus not treated as the standard and also, it is not offered in corporate deals with hardware manufacfurers. The other issue is lack of full fledged office suite. And no, Libre/Open Office is not enough for corporate standards. Gaymens come only after that.

>> No.46847944

>>46847898
I understand where you're coming from but making AAA titles on Linux would definitely help making it mainstream. Would you agree that it would help a bit? Or should we start some where else?

>> No.46847999

It would help but it's certainly not enough to make Linux mainstream and not even close to the main reason, let alone the only reason.

>> No.46848002

>>46847660

> literally the only reason Linux isn't being used by every person on this planet.

you gamedeve kids are the worst posting on /g/

>> No.46848051

>>46848002
Bro, Sarcasm? Anyone that knows how to install Linux knows that's not the only reason... The entire thread was a rant that was completely biased and I get that but I'm super pumped for when Linux takes over the planet.

>> No.46848086

>>46848002
All of you have great ideas to bring Linux forward but your gonna have to do it yourself. Instead of posting wishes on 4 chan go do it. Nothing is gonna change because believe it or not Linux is pushed forward by its users. We gotta stop being lazy.

>> No.46848125

Linux mainstream ? Never, why you ask ? 'Cause common people are not able to (and do not want to) learn about it.

Yeah, yeah, I'm a Linux fanboy, and so what ? Just use a GPT partition table on a hard drive and give it to a Windows user to see what I'm talking about.

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>>46848125
That's a good point. We have to make everything effortless.
Fuck.

>> No.46848178

Gaming alone won't take Linux into the mainstream. The primary, and most important computer user is the office worker. They help power businesses; they are the grunts who take care of things.

Your average office worker checks email, writes documents, manages spreadsheets, and maybe uses a company specific program. They don't know a ton about computers, nor do they have to. They will never be up to messing around in the terminal. Fortunately, we have distros that let you stay away from the terminal. As long as the end user never has to touch it, we'll be good.

I mean, let's look at Windows. You "Next, next, next..." through the install. Once it powers on, you have the simple logon screen, and then every Windows desktop has the same explorer environment. It's consistent. Sure, we all know Windows is bloated. That it's just built on heaps and heaps of legacy code. But to the average end user, it's familiar, it works, and I never touch the command line.

Linux gives you options. That's the beauty of it. Some people love KDE, others XFCE, others i3, and xonad. It's up to you. But to bring it to the masses, we need to show them that Linux isn't some l33t h4x0r OS where only nerds can use it. Then, then Linux can be mainstream. Ubuntu for all its flaws is pushing itself out there. I read about Dell computers in Latin America being loaded with Ubuntu. Once people can have a hands on experience with Linux, they'll probably be fine with it.

tl;dr Average office users are the primary computer users. They shouldn't be required to know the terminal. Windows just werks and is familiar. People need to try Linux and then they'll hopefully like it.

>> No.46848221

No, it's not the only reason, and most people don't even play computer games.

Besides, we're at almost 1000 Linux computer games on Steam already. Plus open sauce games, emulators, and more.

Yes, they don't. Oh, they would be okay with Linux I guess, but it'd need to come with their new computer. They won't install it themselves.

>> No.46848229

>>46848178
What about redhat Linux? That was built for enterprise workers? Does anyone know if red hat uses any office software that's better than libre?

>> No.46848252

>implying *nix isn't already the most popular OS on earth
See: OSX, Android, and every server in existence.

>> No.46848267

Linux is already successful in the mobile, server, and embedded markets, so I don't see why so many people act like its success hinges on desktop.

Not that it won't take over eventually, but these things take time. I already see a lot of companies switching, or at least considering switching. Sure, Steam is a part of it, but the average consumer (i.e. not us) will not use one thing for work and something different when they come home.

The biggest boon for Linux is the fact that it is becoming very costly for companies' idiot salesmen to download viruses, click phishing emails, and otherwise compromise security and ruin Windows installations. When it's easier to make the Luddite peons switch than to continue to clean up after them, Linux really will become the norm.

>> No.46848276

>>46848252
OSX isn't Linux. They were both based off of Unix and took different directions.

>> No.46848301

>>46848276
he didn't say it's linux, he was using the umbrella term *nix which includes all unix-likes and unix derivatives

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Gaming is only half the picture.
If Linux ever got an MS Office port, or Wine or something based on Wine made installing MS Office automated and easy, and people worked to make sure every iteration of could run on this, then maybe we'd see a significant boost in Linux market share. Lastly, DEs still have a way to go. My bets right now are that in a few years the big three will budgie, KDE 5, and Cinnamon.

>> No.46848310

>>46848301
My bad.

>> No.46848328

>>46848302
MS office can be installed through play on Linux I believe. if I remember correctly its 2010?

>> No.46848344

>>46847660
Gaming on Linux will be a thing as much like gaming on Mac is a thing.

>> No.46848369

>>46848328
WINE can "install" Office 2013 apparently but then it doesn't run.

They'll get there before Office 2016, probably.

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>>46848328
But remember.
>play on linux is obscure
>it's not automated
>it takes tweaking to get working
>it can still be buggy
If people sit down and develop a flawless, easy to install office specific Wine package, it'd help Linux a ton. Also completing budgie.

>> No.46848384

>>46847660
>This is literally the only reason Linux isn't being used by every person on this planet
not everybody play games.
The only reason is advertising. There is no advertising to use linux.
Have you seen a single publicity in your TV, when you listen to your radio, or when you're browsing in the internet (normal fag sites, not a website called linux.org)

In my country there where a company, leader on what they were selling (baby stuff), no concurrencies, so they where like "why should we waste money on advertising, publicity, and all. There is no concurrence."
10 years later, they had to share the market with 3 other brands and lost a lot of money because of that.
It was on the years 60 - 70, but it still don't change.

>> No.46848400

>>46847782
>Implying that I'm a man and above the age of 18
wait. are you saying you're below 18?

>> No.46848408

>>46848375
Do you know of any office suites already in development for Linux?

>> No.46848422

>>46848384
then I guess Linux Mint or some other beginners distro should start advertising for Linux.

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>>46848344
but gaming on apple is great, anon

>> No.46848427

>>46848400
You're quite the clever one.

>> No.46848430

>>46847660
If the customers are there, then products will be made. If there are no customers, then no dice. I truly feel that SteamOS will tank in the next year with the coming of Win10 and DX12, everyone will move to those platforms, and Vulkan will struggle to keep up just like its predecessor OpenGL

>> No.46848446

>>46848427
Go study kid

>> No.46848451

>Once companies start developing for Linux and it's graphically amazing plus 60 fps on every Linux kernel in the world, Windows will start to be forgotten

Said 2001.

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>>46848408
The only one that holds a slight bit of real promise is Kingsoft Office.

>> No.46848455

>>46848427
You're quite the b& one.

>> No.46848472

>>46847660

It's more about its usability. People like Android because it's easily usable, people don't like most Linux distros because they are hardly usable and the community sucks BIG FUCKING ASS.

>> No.46848473

>>46848427
yeah. you gotta be 18 to use 4chan m8. I would suggest you return to /r/4chan till you're ready for this site.

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>>46848423
used to be, when they made apple specific ports of the games

>> No.46848494

>>46848446
Have been. I've started making my own kernel in C. Quite the experience if you haven't tried it.

>> No.46848499

>>46847782
I really have to argue that MS Office support would make Linux infinitely more attractive than having gaming support.

>> No.46848509

>>46847660
no. PC gaymers are a tiny minority.
the real reason why linux (desktop) isn't popular:
- tech support is either nonexistent or expensive. that's a deal-breaker for corporate customers and for OEMs who supply hardware with preinstalled OS. keep in mind that most people use windows because that's what their laptop came with.
- linux is fragmented as fuck and there is no stable platform that application developers can target. good luck maintaining all those different builds for all the different versions of linux distros.

>> No.46848519 [DELETED] 

>>46848473
Turn 18 next month. I'll be okay.

>> No.46848524

>>46848499
MS could still make alot of money by making a Linux port of office. They already have a Mac port, might as well go all the way.

>> No.46848529

>>46847660
>Although Linux becoming more popular could potentially be a bad thing
Tell me one downside. GNU/Linux is an excellent tool to teach people about operating systems and computer science. Not only that, but it's free software.

>> No.46848549

>>46848529
Development of viruses and malware is what I meant.

>> No.46848552

>>46848519
fuck off underage b&

>> No.46848558

>>46848519
That's funny because I think underageb& is a month long ban.

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>>46847660
Linux' biggest problem has nothing to do with games. It's that there is no such thing as 'a Linux'. There is a gazillion different OSes out there called 'LInux' coming from endless combinations of kernel versions and different stacks of userland libraries/frameworks/services.

No sane company would invest the resources necessary to maintain stable software across such a fragmented morass of a platform. No sane customer would pay the amount of shekels needed to have software developed under such circumstances.

The only hope I see for Linux, and I am not trolling, is that the systemd guys manage to create enough of a standardized subset of userland components that someone might actually write stable software against it. They even have a design proposal that goes in this direction: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html

Until something like this is done, the kernel will remain the only relevant part of Linux.

>> No.46848579

>>46848529
see android for yourself
Linux won't be mainstream on the inux by being GNU/Linux it will become Google/Linux

>> No.46848596

>>46848579
*mainstream on the desktop

>> No.46848604

>>46848561
I think we need one universal distro that would appeal to normalfags. Windows and mac are popular because how simplified it is and everything is already done for you.

>> No.46848611

>>46848549
the open source community does have an upper hand in an odd way with that. with more people using it, you have more eyes looking at it and therefore more chances of errors being caught (ideally) although we're very aware this isn't the case. if windows was open sourced one hour from now, think about how many vulnerabilities would be found in the next 24. since linux is out in the open, anything can be caught at any time (again, ideally) and be patched in the next release of whatever program it is.

>> No.46848612

>>46848558
It's a shame I can't share the same philosophy with people that I can actually talk to. I get on 4chan to express what I believe and it's the perfect outlet because everyone I talk to in irl are dumbasses.

>> No.46848625

>>46848611
>this isn't the case
isn't ALWAYS the case. heh.

>> No.46848626

>>46848612
rules are rules. if we let you in, then the rest of the cancer will demand entry. I don't want more meme spewing 10 year old faggots on this site then there already is.

>> No.46848628

>>46848612
you have still much to learn kid

>> No.46848658

>>46848612
Listen kid, no one cares if you're under 18. I've been browsing the chons on and off since I was 13. You just can't say it. That's literally all you have to do, then they can't ban you, even if it's completely obvious you're under 18.

God knows /b/ is still filled with 13 year olds, but as long as they don't say they're 13 they get to post in their roll threads.

>> No.46848666

>>46848626
I understand. The only way you could ban a 4chan user would be the ip address? Why not spoof it with tor?

>> No.46848674

>>46848549
Malware will never be an issue.

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GNU/Linux is for reasonably competent and intelligent users.

Therefore it will never get mainstream.

>> No.46848686

>>46848666
all tor exit nodes and pretty much all proxies/VPNs are blocked or banned already.

>> No.46848707

>>46848686
That's pretty Damn clever.

>> No.46848717

>>46848676
this
it might become mainstream but only if some company like Google will remove the GNU from that
but then I won't use it

>> No.46848720

>>46848422
yup.
I'm glad that ubuntu is coming in the mobile phone industry. They'll have the first real ads for a normal public. It will be distribute on contract in spain, england... it will maybe make a little publicity.

>> No.46848725

>>46848707
Not really. Just people posting cp with proxies, so the proxies get perma-banned.

>> No.46848739

>>46848725
that and it's easy to detect if the IP you're on is a tor exit node and those can get auto-banned easily.

>> No.46848769

>>46848725
Why can't you just buy another external ip from isp then reroute through firewall that is using a proxy or is an exit node of tor that had just been made? I get what you're saying but I've already gotten Network+ cert and it feels like if someone has gotten banned and they really want to be unbanned they could be. So many work arounds.

>> No.46848807

>>46848717
>>46848676


>tfw there are actually people out there that think exactly that

>> No.46848808

>>46848604
It's called Ubuntu

>> No.46848815

If more distros adhered to the LSB we would have nice things.

>> No.46848845

>>46848807
yes and they don't think wrong
mainstream linux will not be GNU/Linux

>> No.46848856

>>46848769
>So many work arounds.
Oh I'm sure, I don't know much about it though. But when I try 4chan on tor 95% of the time it says I'm banned, either outright or it'll display some permaban message.

Tor is shit though, so I don't care.

>> No.46848859

>>46848612
>everyone I talk to in irl are dumbasses.
>implying the majority of shit posters here. much like yourself
>arn't also total morons.
oh the irony

>> No.46848884

>>46848859
I guess when I say dumbass I mean they don't know what Linux is and can barely use internet explorer.

>> No.46848906

>>46848884
>I guess when I say dumbass I mean they don't know what Linux is and can barely use internet explorer.

how did you get unfortunate enough to meet normalfags of that caliber?

>> No.46848933

>>46848906
he is just a kid who is on his first day of baiting on /g/
and he is quite successful

>> No.46848956

>>46848884
Where I live people aren't tech savvy. They think I'm a wizard because I can argue with geeksquad.

>> No.46848960

>>46848561
I don't really see the logic in this argument.

>No sane company would invest the resources necessary to maintain stable software across such a fragmented morass of a platform
They don't have to, they can just support Ubuntu for example and the rest of the distributions will repackage their software for them. Not that is difficult to do in the first place, you are making it out as if Linux software constantly removes backwards compatibility with updates, which is not true.

>the systemd guys manage to create enough of a standardized subset of userland components that someone might actually write stable software against it
If they did such a thing they would be far overreaching what service management software should be doing. Also, Linux software is stable, well at least the software I use. I can not the same about various pieces of Windows software I have the displeasure in using.

>> No.46848961

>>46848933
I don't consider getting banned as part of the plan successful.

>> No.46848967

>>46848884
>when I say dumbass I mean they don't know what Linux is and can barely use internet explorer.
How does knowing about Linux make you smarter than the general public? Serious question.

>> No.46848981

>>46847660
>This is literally the only reason Linux isn't being used by every person on this planet. Once companies start developing for Linux and it's graphically amazing plus 60 fps on every Linux kernel in the world, Windows will start to be forgotten.

OK, sure. All those big, complex authoring application and industrial application that actually matter will magically transcend over?

>> No.46848992

>>46848967
It doesn't. But when you're using something other than Mac or Windows people assume that you're smarter than them.

>> No.46849019

>>46848981
Obviously it would be over time. We've also already established that gaming wouldn't necessarily do that.

>> No.46849023

>>46848981
>All those big, complex authoring application and industrial application that actually matter will magically transcend over?
This.

You want to see more Linux being used? Get SolidWorks and AutoCAD on it. That'll get people to switch.

>> No.46849026

I detect paid MS trolls here.

>steamos/gnu+linux about to destroy windows gaming
>steam puts tons of gnu+linux games on sale/announces what's coming essentially
>ms gets buttmad
>goes on sites like 4chan and leddit to troll and whine

>> No.46849125

>>46848981
>All those big, complex authoring application and industrial application that actually matter
to be fair, most of those are already on linux or some other *nix.

>>46849023
>autocad
consumer shit
>SolidWorks
consumer shit. the same company also makes catia, which is the real deal and does run on unix

>> No.46849133

>>46847660
Lol, no. It's not just gaming. It's programs in general. Nobody other than Ganoo/Loonix geeks is interested in fucking around in WINE or finding free as in freedumb alternatives to all the software they use. One example would be Microsoft Office. If someone wants to make a powerpoint presentation for class or whatever, they don't want to be forced to use Libre Office, which has an incredibly limited selection of themes and has shit compatibility with MS office.
Another thing is the retarded idea that users should use the command line on a regular basis. If a regular person finds out that they might have to use the CLI for basic shit at some point, then they will drop the OS right there.

>> No.46849170

>>46849133
I agree. We have to make everything effortless don't we?

>> No.46849178

Windows began its big succes with gamers.
Linux will do the same soon.

>> No.46849189

>>46849170
Yep.

>> No.46849254

>>46849125
>to be fair, most of those are already on linux or some other *nix.
on some other proprietary unix, from which you can't get it to Linux.

>> No.46849272

>>46849178
I thought MS only succeeded because their counterfeit OS came bundled with every IBM computer.

>> No.46849273

>>46847936
>not preinstalled
Who the fuck buys prebuilts?
Even if they do, who the fuck KEEPS the original windows installed, filled with adware and such?

>> No.46849307

>>46849273
Non tech savvy people. Aunt Susie isn't going to build her own gaymen rig. She's gonna go down to Best Buy and have the nice young salesmen tell her to get an Acer laptop.

>> No.46849330

>>46849273
Like 90% of people.

>> No.46849350

>>46847660
this is a true story. and ill sum it up for everyone in the thread

grandma "grandsonny i need you to fix my computer" (its a mac)
grandsonny "sorry grandma, i only know how to use windows"
grandma "well, then put windows on it, just fix it"

boom, that computer has windows on it. gamers drive the OS market. there are a thousand variables and different stories, but it all comes down to this... gamers typically dont have 40hr work weeks, theyre usually the one available to fix a computer, if they dont know how to fix your OS,,, well, you gotta get another OS

>> No.46849525

>>46849350
>this is what linuxtards actually believe

>> No.46849582

>>46849525
okay dude. im on windows right now. i was that gamer in my family, i dictated what computers people were able to get in my family by the simple fact that i didnt know how to use anything other than windows. i have heard the exact same story from countless others. the only people that get gimick OS's (OSX) are people that dont have anybody to help them in the family

>> No.46849602

>>46848472
people(i'm refering developers) prefer android because it has a STANDARD API for doing things, unlike GNU/linux distros, where each distro is a different world

>> No.46849617

>>46848524
Mac APIs are stable, GNU/linux ones change constantly and SW companies don't like that

>> No.46849636

>>46848604
but muh freedom.

seriously, I really want Linux to be more standardized

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>>46847660
>literally the only reason Linux isn't being used by every person on this planet

hey you forgot
> UIX inconsistency
> fifteen different package managers on a metric fuckton of different distros
> in turn, developing for linux & co is dependency hell
> majority of FOSS companies don't have a proper business model

> even if all of this was fixed, there's no real, solid reason for manufacturers to bundle it with their product or for users to make the switch themselves other than muh riceability

nobody gives a shit about open source. your car ain't open source, your telly ain't open source, your fucking hotpockets aren't open source. nobody cares.

freetards are so endearingly naive.

>> No.46849873

>>46849772
>your car ain't open source, your telly ain't open source, your fucking hotpockets aren't open source. nobody cares.

That's because most people don't have the prerequisites for making those things. If you think of sources which people do have the ability to make use of, like recipes for example, those very often are "open source" and very much appreciated for it.

>> No.46849958

>>46849636
the entire idea behind loonix is separatism. few people actually look at the source or seriously contribute themselves.

the only way for a standard to emerge would be if a company picks it up and makes it their own thing, which canonical tried, but linux is just too much of a clusterfuck and canonical isn't smart enough to make it work.

nobody who thinks economically really has an interest in investing all the effort required into a product that would by definition be free (if it wasn't, it arguably wouldn't be linux anymore). spout that free as in freedom not as in free beer crap as much as you want, nobody actually buys FLOSS software. some pay for support, some pay indirectly if it's bundled (android phones, routers) but that's it.

>>46849873
nobody makes their own os. nobody has or requests recipes for pre-made food stuffs like muffins or pizza dough or coca cola. you don't get any detailed instructions with that you get the minimum that the company has to print on the label and nobody really asks how it's made anyways

the majority of freetards don't give two shits about whats actually in the code. you ask most of them if they've ever even looked at and comprehended the code of a program, even a small applet, they'd be lying if they said yes.

it's all nerd cred and basement revolutionaries

i'm just trying to make you see the facts here

>> No.46850156

>>46849958
>nobody makes their own os. nobody has or requests recipes for pre-made food stuffs like muffins or pizza dough or coca cola. you don't get any detailed instructions with that you get the minimum that the company has to print on the label and nobody really asks how it's made anyways

That's because the people who might do their own cooking don't want to make that shit. Pre-made foodstuffs are designed to be produced en masse, to make a single batch for a handful of people would never be worth the effort.

>you ask most of them if they've ever even looked at and comprehended the code of a program, even a small applet, they'd be lying if they said yes.

Who says absolutely everybody who uses open source code has to look at it? The point is that it's available, and by that principle it becomes very difficult for anybody to insert artificial restrictions or blatant anti-features into it. You can think of it as a sort of insurance

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>>46848229
currently learning RHEL for my sys admin class
98% of the work that we do is strictly command line work
all the office software is generic ms office suite ripoffs
I dont mind the command line work,I actually enjoy it, but I realize that its not for everyone

>> No.46852345

>>46847660
>Once companies start developing for Linux

Yes, OP, once companies start.
Thing is they haven't started yet, nor for the past 20 years nor for the entirety of Linux's existence.

>> No.46852559

Torvald said it himself, the only reason linux is not popular is because it's not preinstalled on PCs.

>> No.46854035

>>46847681
Y your fagass chart not have knot theory

>> No.46854333

Sadly gaming for Linux is lacking and the next problem is that Linux aint that user friendly for noobs that know nothing about computer language like me. In Linux you need to atleast have some basic knowledge of how programming works to be able to use the terminal for example. Finding your way around Linux is unnessesary complicated and guides, whilest plentyfull never easy.

The huge amount of Linux versions doesnt make it any easier. I have used (tried and fumbled my way around) ubuntu, linux lite, fedora, mint and a couple others and are curently using xubuntu on my mini laptop (cause it cant handle anything else) and sure I can use the basics but thats about it. Finding my way around is still annoying and a pain.

There has to be a Linux port that are much more noobfriendly for Linux to shine and make its way to the top and they have to support more programs both for graphic and music like photoshop and reason and the like.

And yes games must be much more avaliable. Wine is simply not good enough.

>> No.46854871

I would tried gaming on Linux if all the games I liked had the compatibility. Sadly only like 15% of the games I play are compatible. Been dying to try a new OS.

>> No.46854941

No, gaming is one of the last reasons why it isn't used.

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