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Just install OpenSuse. Holy shit, this is like Windows on steroids. Why doesn't /g/ talk about this distro more?

>> No.37940172

Because YaST

>> No.37940186

>>37940161
>Why doesn't /g/ talk about this distro more?
it is not a mainstream distro but it is a top quality one

>> No.37940221

What's to talk about? Suse has been one of the main workstation distributions for a while.

>> No.37940237

Because the people who install it are logical and practical people who don't need to hype up their distro and shove it down everyone's throats.

>> No.37940300

Forces non-free software. Truly a enemy of freedom.

>> No.37940309

Waiting for fedora's and opensuse's new versions and see what I prefere

>> No.37940330

>>37940161
just wait 9 days.

>> No.37940337

the only good thing about opensuse is that chameleon mascot that looks like a total bro and it's probably the best distro logo of all

>> No.37940359

>>37940309
>fedora

Why. You'll get a arch tier distro. That's used to test stuff for RHL

>> No.37940391

OP don't forget to remove the bloat.

>> No.37940419

>>37940330
Could I ask why?

>> No.37940461

>>37940419
no

>> No.37940478

>>37940419
OpenSuse 13.1 is released.

>> No.37940493

>>37940478
How is that a bad thing?

>> No.37940508

>>37940493
Nobody said that it was a bad thing

>> No.37940510

>>37940391
How?

>> No.37940511

>>37940419
http://www.opensuse.org/en/

>> No.37940532

How's GNOME in OpenSUSE?

>> No.37940541

>>37940532
Same as in every other distro.

>> No.37940549

I've always been interested in Suse but it's scoffed at so much I never gave it a real try.

>> No.37940562

>>37940532
http://news.opensuse.org/2013/10/29/sneak-peek-opensuse-13-1-what-we-have-for-gnome-users/

>> No.37940667

>>37940549
All I ever see is praise for OpenSuse. Fedora is the one that I usually see people bitch and complain about.

>> No.37940727

>>37940667

maybe people looked down on openSUSE because of Novell, and the Microsoft thing. But now Novell and openSUSE are separate

>> No.37940853

I have always seen /g/ recommend this as a solid distro and I think it isn't discussed more because it gives one of the best user experiences without sacrificing features.

>> No.37940880

>>37940667
I haven't seen anyone really complain about OpenSuse in my experience
don't see anyone talk about it either, though.

>> No.37940919

>>37940853
>>37940880

I think /g/ doesn't talk about it much because:
* Despite having been around for a while, its userbase is pretty inelastic; not really increasing or decreasing
* Doesn't really do anything controversial, at least not since the Novell/MS thing years ago
* The openSUSE community just doesn't bother advertising the distro as much as other projects do

>> No.37940975

>>37940667
why do people complain about fedora?

aren't both based on RHEL anyways? I assume opensuse and fedora are similar in a lot of ways

>> No.37940976

It is recommended for Netbooks?

>> No.37941012

>>37940975
Fedora is way more bleeding-edge than openSUSE. They use newer software, and have a shorter release cycle.

Many people complain that Fedora is unstable/buggy for those reasons.

>> No.37941065

>>37940975
>aren't both based on RHEL anyways?

u wot m8

Just because they both use RPM, doesn't mean they share the same origin. Hell, they don't even use the same package manager.

Fedora is the community-based testbed for Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

openSUSE is the community version of SUSE Linux Enterprise.

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>>37940976
If you're on a netbook, I would go for Crunchbang. It's much more lightweight.

>> No.37941109

People complain about OpenSuse because

>MUH KDE

>> No.37941116

because i hate green colored gradients in kde

>> No.37941175
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37941175

why would I use OpenSuse over PCLinuxOS
>rolling release
>apt and synaptic
>better configuration tools
>so cool ice cubes are jealous

>> No.37941201

SUSE used to be my shit back in the day. i can't remember the exact reason i drifted away but it was around the time Novell bought them out. i think it had more to do with a KDE problem i was having than anything political though.

>> No.37941205

>>37940172
If not for yast I /might/ use it instead of manjaro

>> No.37941234

>>37941175

>PCLinuxOS

I can't stand this name

>> No.37941265
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37941265

Why is it that FOSS projects chose the WORST names and mascots?

>> No.37941320

>>37941265

debra + ian 4 eva + toy story

>literally how debian got it's name and release names

>> No.37941321

>>37941205
>>37940172
what's wrong with yast?

>> No.37941337

>>37941321
everything

>> No.37941382

>>37941321
Distro's shouldn't make their own settings managers

>> No.37941412

>>37941382
does it force you to use it? or does everything break if you don't?

>> No.37941447

>>37941412
>>37941382
You don't have to use YaST. You don't even need to install it.

>> No.37941473

>>37941321
>>37941337
>>37941382
>>37941412
>>37941447

YaST is honestly insanely good.

>> No.37941495

>>37940976
seconding >>37941078
lightweight, rather configurable, works out of the box

>> No.37941499

I can't get Xmonad working in openSUSE. I tried compiling it with cabal and that didn't work. Then I tried getting an unstable Xmonad package from a repo and that didn't work either.

>> No.37941520

9 more days to go until 13.1

>> No.37941522

>>37941265
THIS IS OBJECTIFYING WOMYN BECAUSE LITTLE GIRLS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SEE THERE CARTOONS BE SKINNY AND THINK THEY HAVE TO BE SKINNY TOO.

>> No.37941536

>>37941078
>>37941495

Thing is, it kind of slow my Netbook down and overheats it. I don't know why.

Right now it's running Mint Xfce.

>> No.37941559

>>37941473
It was kinda shit last I used it.
And RPM broke everything. Pacman is way better, but only on manjaro because Arch's repos make it worthless.

>> No.37941567

>>37941536
Cleaned the guts? How does Mint run on it?

>> No.37941576
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>>37941522
feminazis pls go

>> No.37941582

>>37940161
because kde

>> No.37941604
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37941604

I use it. The only real problem is the lack of documentation. It has almost as many packages as Debian and the software isn't outdated like Debian is.

>> No.37941608

>>37941567

Yeah, it's clean.
Runs great, and it doesn't overheat. The battery is even better now too.

>> No.37941637

>>37941608
Well, just stay with that then. If you're happy with it, I see no reason to change.

>> No.37941661

>>37940237
this couldn't be more true

>> No.37941676

>>37941604
>The only real problem is the lack of documentation

It's not exactly Arch level documentation, but it's definitely more than adequate.

http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Documentation

>> No.37941708

>>37941637

Well, i am just testing Distros to see which one do i like the most. I am new to Linux, you see.

>> No.37941730

Tumbleweed master race?

>> No.37941746
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>>37941708
IF that's the case, why not run it in a VM? That way, you would be able to test it without any changes to your current system or hard drive.

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>>37941746

That's... A pretty good point, actually.
Thanks.

>> No.37941858

I made this same thread last night but I fell asleep and didn't post in it.

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37941866

>>37941769
No problem, man. Glad I could help.

>> No.37941885

Well, it looks like if Xubuntu 14.04 is a train wreck then I might be testing out OpenSuse on my netbook.

>> No.37941920

>>37941769
Make sure you remember it won't be as slow and glitchy on real hardware, same with Live discs.

>> No.37941991

>>37941920

Ah hell.

>> No.37942019

>>37941991
I mean it's good enough to evaluate things but just keep in mind that performance issues could be related to the VM not the OS.

>> No.37942066

openSUSE isn't Windows on steroids. It's KDE on steroids. openSUSE is one of the biggest contributors to KDE.

There's nothing that has the power of KDE. You can do so much with KDE.

>> No.37942107

>>37942066
>There's nothing that has the power of KDE.

except Kubuntu

>> No.37942149

>>37942107
he was comparing KDE to other DE's, not opensuse to other kde-defaulting distros

>> No.37942162

If I wasn't using Fedora I would be using OpenSUSE. I used to have it installed on my last disk, but it isn't on this one (I haven't decided if I want to add CentOS or OpenSUSE to my system now).

>> No.37942334

There's not much else to choose besides openSuse anyway. Fedora is shit and so is Ubuntu. openSuse looks quite palatable these days.

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>>37941065
>just because they both use RPM, doesn't mean they share the same origin. Hell, they don't even use the same package manager.

>Redhat Package Manager

>> No.37942412

What's the relationship with openSUSE and SUSE Linux? It's it like Fedora and RHEL? openSUSE is a testing ground? Fedora is officially sponsored by RHEL. Is it the same for openSUSE?

>> No.37942492

>>37942412
Look up the Wikipedia page, it's a little complex.

>> No.37942514

>>37942412

Kinda. Novell develops the SUSE Enterprise and sponsors (or used to sponsor) openSUSE.

But unlike Red Hat, Novell is shady as fuck because of his relationship with Microsoft.

>> No.37942516

>>37940172
>Windows on Steroids

I mean...it's just KDE. I could install KDE.

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37942551

>>37941175
>better configuration tools
say that again fucker

>> No.37942555

>>37942516
>I could install KDE.

It makes a great DE, even if some of the apps leave a bit to be desired.

>> No.37942586

>>37942387
RPM *originally* stood for that, yes. However, it is now merely a format for packages.

Fedora uses yum now and dnf soon, while openSUSE uses zypper for package management. Just because zypper uses .rpm for its packaging format, does not make openSUSE a derivative of Red Hat.

>> No.37942589

>>37942514
Except it's nothing like that.
Novell doesn't even exist any-more.

>> No.37942605

I dont use OpenSuSE because it can't into btrfs.

I like me some btrfs

>> No.37942625

>>37942605
13.1 was going to default to Btrfs originally.

>> No.37942635
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37942635

>>37942605
>Not ZFS

>> No.37942637

>>37942605
btrfs support comes out in the next version. It will be released in 9 days.

>> No.37942641

>>37942605
the 13.1 install even asks you if you want to use btrfs.
it does that by default before the partitioning phase.
I don't use it myself, but I'd guess there is plenty of support in 13.1. Don't know about 12.3 though, and I see no reason why it wouldn't be supported there.

>> No.37942705

>>37942625
>>37942637
>>37942641
Yes, I know. And it is horribly broken. Every other distro can into btrfs without a problem, but OpenSuSE will not boot when you allow it to use btrfs. So while they might be the ones who are pushing it really hard, they are also pushing in an incredibly shitty way, with a dramatically broken implementation of it.

>>37942635
>BSD
I would literally rather watch my testicles get slowly roasted than use that piece of horseshit.

>> No.37942761

>>37942705
btrfs is in an unstable release right now. It should work when 13.1 goes stable

>> No.37942903

I don't like openSUSE because you need to have a billion different repositories enabled.

For example, xbindkeys is in the X11:Utilities repository which isn't enabled by default.

If you want nvidia drivers, you have to use nvidia's repository - guess what? they don't provide drivers for 13.1 beta yet!

You end up with dozens and dozens of repositories, I'm surprised updating to a new version works for anyone.

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>>37942705
>>BSD
>hyperbolic statement

who said anything about BSD? ZFS is available as a native kernel module, on Linux and was originally made for Solaris. FreeBSD just happens to support it (Open and NetBSD do not).

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37942967

>>37942903
> updating Linux
> not installing a fresh copy

>> No.37943092

>>37940161
becasue ChrisLAS said Meh.

>> No.37943160

>>37942761
Bullshit.

If something is RC2, the main features should work with a few bugs here and there, not be completely non-functional.

Fedora 20 worked fine with btrfs, as did Ubuntu 13.10 when it was pre-release, and Debian testing.

I never managed to get it to install properly, and so I give it a solid 0/10 because of that.

>> No.37943947

I used openSuse for a few weeks, I kept gettng dependency errors. the main thing I remember was having to manually install dependencies for both vlc and mplayer.

Debian is where my heart is now.

>> No.37943993

>>37943947
Are you me?

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>>37943993
probably not

>> No.37944175

>>37944126
That's not RMS and she's a porn star at a porn convention.

>> No.37944204

>>37944175
>/g/ - Internet Detectives

>> No.37944328

>>37940161
Because Fedora is the RPM distro of choice for /g/.

>> No.37944430

I've been using fedora for a while (and it is shit).
Guess I'll go OpenSuse next
>>37941522
radfem is our last chance against M$
Force IE to check its privilege and foil their master plan to turn /g/ away from all that is good

>> No.37944476

>>37944430
How is Fedora shit? What's wrong with it?

>> No.37944560

>>37944328
* tips fedora *

>> No.37944771

>>37944476
honestly the issue is my not being able to maintain it as much as I want to, and havong a shitty acer laptop, but the problems I've experienced include:
-Sound failure - no sound would work for an entire release once
- Lack of adequate support for many things that other distros seem to have
- Nothing but trouble when compiling from source
- I can't actually boot into the latest version, it gives me a kernel panic whenever I do
- yum breaks frequently with laggy updating and duplicates

>> No.37944854

>>37944771
The only one of those things I've seen after a year or so of using it is trouble compiling from source, which is due to them setting up the linker in a way that breaks shit.

>> No.37944930

>>37940419
>asks why /g/ doesn't talk about OpenSUSE more
>9 days until discussion will most likely be had
>still doesn't understand

>> No.37945124

>>37944771
>Sound failure - no sound would work for an entire release once
did you update?
> Lack of adequate support for many things that other distros seem to have
rpmfusion nigga
>yum breaks frequently with laggy updating and duplicates
if the updating is slow, maybe you should change mirrors
>- Nothing but trouble when compiling from source
- Nothing but trouble when compiling from source
that may be because the documentation(/depends) may be written for ubuntu
- I can't actually boot into the latest version, it gives me a kernel panic whenever I d- I can't actually boot into the latest version, it gives me a kernel panic whenever I do
file a bug or ask for help on irc

>> No.37945127

>>37940161
Because it's an enterprise distro. As a desktop OS it's nothing special. I'd be more likely to recommend Mint Cinnamon or Mint KDE to most people.

>> No.37945131

>>37941708
I suggest also trying out SolydX. It's the successor to now deprecated Mint Debian XFCE.

>> No.37945134

>>37940161
I've been using OpenSUSE + XFCE.
I like it well enough.
zypper, while not the best, works fine for what I need and there are more than enough packages and repos.

I've never had to do a full version upgrade with SUSE before, so I'm hoping the 13.1 shift will be pretty painless. I'm use to rolling distros.

>> No.37945153

>>37940359
>arch tier
Call me when they get anything close to as awesome as AUR

>> No.37945215

>>37944175
What's her name?

>> No.37945247

>>37945153
>aur
why do you need unstable as fuck, untested package scripts when you have all the software in the repos? also if you have a hard on for aur, you may as well as use gentoo

>> No.37945274

>>37945247
gentoo has less packages than the aur

>> No.37945344

>>37945247
So far Arch is the only distro I've ever used in which I have not had to do any manual package management. The reason for that is the AUR.

>> No.37945366

>KDE
0/10 shit DE

>> No.37945376

>>37945274
so which package do you need which isn't in portage?

>> No.37945405

>>37945247
>you may as well as use gentoo
I don't enjoy compiling everything. Most of the time I would rather install binaries

>> No.37945421

>>37945376
>portage
>thousands of small repos

>aur
>one repo

Aur any day, but there were only two or three small packages in aur but not portage that I use

>> No.37945467

>>37945421
Honestly I would prefer if AUR was split into source and binary repos. And the binary repo should be split into x86 and x86_64

>> No.37945481

>>37945366
looks okay on opensuse

everywhere else it's shit, sadly

>> No.37945495

>>37945366
you can choose other des

>> No.37945577

>>37944328
hahahahahaha no

Fedora is unstable garbage. OpenSUSE is much better for most users.

>> No.37945592

>>37945577
>Fedora
>unstable
lolno

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37945625

Reinvented Classic Mode

Fallback mode has been dropped in favor of using LLVM on machines without graphics acceleration. But the fans of GNOME 2 have not been abandoned. A new classic mode consisting of several extensions has been added to GNOME. The difference between the new Classic and old Fallback modes is, the former uses GNOME 3 as a basis with all it’s graphics abilities by modifying the user interface via several extensions, giving GNOME 3 the look and feel of GNOME 2. Classic Mode, although not installed by default, is available to be grabbed from the official repositories.

>>37945592
I dont use Fedora anymore. The installer is unreliable from my experience and the updates are too bleeding edge and can fuck you over if a bug sneaks in. I had my ext4 filesystem corrupted because of this one time.

>> No.37945659

>>37945592
it sure as hell isn't as stable as RHEL

>> No.37945690

>>37945467
A binary aur would make me never look at another distro again.

>> No.37945695

>>37945625
I don't know how long ago you used it, but the installer is damn good now, works better than any of the alternatives that I've tried.

>>37945659
No, but it's stable enough for a desktop system.

>> No.37945731

hey guys, stable or bleeding edge?

>> No.37945736

>>37945690
The main reason this will probably never happen is because who is going to host all those binary files? Sometimes the application devs will provide official binaries on their site, but when they only have a github or something similar there's not any way to pull binaries without a third party hosting them.

>> No.37945800

>>37940161
Why its awesome:
1) openSUSE is awesome, but none of its users are obnoxious enough to brag/harass other people to use it.
2) Its users are doing real work as opposed to browsing /g/.

Why it sucks:
1) YaST is amazing. It feels a little hacky, but installing my ATI drivers with one click is amazing.
2) KDE looks like ass, it feels wrong installing another DE on openSUSE considering it has such tight integration with KDE out of the box.

>> No.37946079

>>37945736
What about (wait for it) the same goddamn mirrors that host all of arch's other packages.

>> No.37946114

>>37945215
Sinn Sage. Enjoy fapping anon. She's pretty good in tribbing videos. Mmm

>> No.37946159

>>37945800
> brag/harass other people to use it

> Its users are doing real work as opposed to browsing /g/.

hahahahaahahahahhaha

>> No.37947071

>>37946079
I doubt they would want to host AUR packages due to the nature of how it works. Anyone can upload to the AUR

>> No.37947104

Can I do full-disk encryption during install yet with one click?

If I need to manually set it up, there's no need to switch from what I am using anyway.

>> No.37947142

>>37940161
I just dont like the programm for installing software. I find it not very comfortable.

>> No.37948798

>>37947104
I don't know about OpenSuse, but with Ubuntu alternate install disc you can do that.

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>>37942962
i use both zfs and btrfs, for different reasons

zfs master race for massive storage though

i should probably do another scrub soon

>> No.37949081

>>37940976
Lubuntu

>> No.37949208

>>37941320
It's doubly as fun since they divorced.

>> No.37949217

>>37940161
Guys!. Im looking for a distro with almost no bloat (I only want the things needed for a newbie, like a proper installer and that kind of things).

>> No.37949284

>>37942387
SuSE is derived from Slackware and they adopted .rpm because the expected the toolset around it to be richer, instead apt pulled ahead.

>> No.37949358

>>37949217
Manjaro is pretty good.

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>>37949217
MorphOS is the only answer friend

>> No.37949400

>>37949394
MAKE IT STOP

>> No.37949403

>>37949217
What do you mean by no bloat? As a new user you probably want bloat. You said you want something with a proper installer. I assume you mean bloated installer. KDE is the most bloated desktop environment. I prefer KDE to any other desktop environment.

>> No.37949411

Why don't you use Zorin?

>> No.37949457

I've been an OpenSUSE 12.3 user for almost a year now. Been loving every bit of it. YaST is nice, though their firewall settings and setting up xrdp is a pain in the fucking dick.

>> No.37949466

>>37949403
I have Mint right now. And there is a lot of programs that i will never use. Im looking for something without all of these but whit enough tools to not make it difficult on purpose for someone who wants to dump Windows but that has enough will to learn more things that the basic user. Sorry for my bad English.

>> No.37949468

I just tried it and it doesn't seem that amazing, what's so good about it exactly?

>> No.37949480

>>37940667
Forgetting Linus hates this shitty distro

>> No.37949517

>>37949466
A lot of distros come with a net install. With a net install you can pick the software you want to go over the base install. openSUSE has a net install. Try out the openSUSE or Fedora net installs. All major distros off a net installer by the way.

>> No.37949520

>>37940161
>not using exherbo linux in the year of our Lord, dos mil trece
I bet you couldn't even install it, faggots.

>> No.37949526

As someone that has only tried distros in VMs I have to say openSUSE left the most professional impression right from the installer.

>> No.37949573

>>37945625
How do I install this Classic (not fallback) on Debian sid?

>> No.37949604

>>37949517
Thanks for your help.

>> No.37949633

>>37944175

I think everyone knows RMS is not so fat

>> No.37949726

>>37941604
share that PS1 pls

>> No.37949733

>>37949726
this

>> No.37949752

>>37949526
Agreed, the installer is pretty hardcore compared to anything I've ever tried before.

>> No.37949803

>>37949726
>>37949733
╭─%{$terminfo[bold]$fg[green]%}%[email protected]%m%{$reset_color%} %{$terminfo[bold]$fg[blue]%} %~%{$reset_color%} $(git_prompt_info)%{$reset_color%}
╰─%B$%b

>> No.37949805

>>37949803
thank you anon

>> No.37949888

>mpv not in repository

That's a pity.

>> No.37949923

>>37949888
It's in there. In the packman repo

>> No.37949948

>>37949888
it's on the packman repo, but it's better to compile mpv to get all the new features since it's pretty easy to do

>> No.37949961

>>37940161
I'm waiting for KlyDE to be finished before trying OpenSUSE with it

>> No.37949973
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This better be worth it OP!

>> No.37949982

>>37949948
The packman repo has version 0.2.3 which the latest release of mpv

>> No.37950005

>>37949973
it isn't.

>> No.37950015

>>37949982
oh ok, until some days ago it was an older version
>>37950005
it is

>> No.37950032

>>37945366

better than gnome3

>> No.37950034

>>37941321
Nothing wrong with Yast. I wish other distros were providing a unified settings manager.

>> No.37950047

>>37949973
You're installing KDE? You might not like KDE. KDE is like an acquired taste. It might bother you how it looks but it doesn't look all that bad on openSUSE. It still doesn't look as good as GNOME. But GNOME lacks a lot of features that KDE has.

>> No.37950049

>>37950034
>using a gui
fucking casual

>> No.37950050

>>37940161
Because zypper

>> No.37950076

>>37950047
I've used GNOME before and don't like it all that much, plus it always seems to bug out in VirtualBox. I'm pretty impartial when it comes to DEs anyway, whatever works is good for me.

>> No.37950089

>>37950049
It's harder for me to use YaST than a terminal but I like having YaST just because and there's no other settings manager that even rivals it.

>> No.37950090

>>37940727
Novell brought a lot of good stuff to Linux. Many data centers have gone to Linux because of this (vs Windows Servers). I think that's a good thing.

>> No.37950104

>>37950047
KDE is perfectly fine once you go through the various settings and disable every animation you come across.

Why people think animations that actually slow things down as you wait for them to finish are a good idea I'll never know.

>> No.37950118

>>37950089
it was a joke since most people on /g/ dislike easy things, I like yast because like you just said "there's no other settings manager that even rivals it"

>> No.37950119

>>37950104
the animations need CPU/GPU cycles to run
applications also need CPU/GPU cycles to run

>> No.37950129

>>37941604
How do you get those previews in ranger? Other than that that is a pretty good SuSE setup you got there.

>> No.37950142

>>37950104
he should also disable the orrible windows glow that is enabled by default. And yes, KDE is a good de despite what peoples on /g/ love to say

>> No.37950148

>>37950129
A w3m hack

>> No.37950151

I still dont understand the package management in suse.

>Yast package manager is like synaptic
>Zypper is like apt-get
>Apper is KDE useless bloat and can be safely removed
am I assuming things right?

>> No.37950172

>>37950151
yes, I always remove it since I never got the point of apper, it's really shitty and most of the times gets in the way of zypper and yast

>> No.37950201

>>37950172
thanks anon, those KDE dev should not waste their energy on such package manager. They should polish that Rekonq and integrate QtCurve...

>> No.37950272

>>37950201
Yeah imo it's a waste of time. I really like rekonq but I can't part from firefox, too many useful extensions. Luckily opensuse has a patched firefox that is better integrated with kde and can use the kde file dialog, the gtk one is utter shit and has been that way for years

>> No.37950326

>>37940186
It used to be a mainstream one though.

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>>37950272
I just wanna use distro that use pure Qt framework and KDE software collection that not based on Arch (like Chakra Linux).

But fuck, GTK reign is too strong. Even Chakra dev having some difficulties...

>> No.37950464

>>37950399
I use a pure GTK2 Arch setup. Neither Qt nor GTK3 even exist on this system. And I'm not missing out on anything at all.

>> No.37950490

>>37950399
that would be so awesome

>> No.37950492

>>37940161
> why doesn't /g/ talk about this distro more
> it's like Windows on steroids
You answered your own question; people on /g/ don't want "Windows on steroids", they want Linux.

>> No.37950493

>>37950464
lol, looks like we are in different boat...
Gtk vs Qt

>> No.37950638

>>37948993
You seem fairly knowledgeable with filesystems, why do you use btrfs?

I'm on btrfs atm for a 16tb array, but looking to move to zfs and do raidz1, I'm not finding any advantages to btrfs vs my old lvm/ext4 setup.

>> No.37950802

>>37950638
basically, i use btrfs for boot/root/home because it's lighter and more responsive, making it suitable for those mounts

zfs is more secure, stable, and simpler to manage, making it more suitable for massive storage

i couldn't trust btrfs with 16T storage, not yet

my zfs disks are a set of green/5900 rpm drives, so their IOPS are pretty low, while the two btrfs disks are regular 7200rpm drives, in a mirror, so the higher [read] IOPS makes them more suitable for random access. the zfs iops can be helped a lot by using an SSD L2ARC/ZIL device, but i don't have the money for one atm

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>>37949973
>>37950047
Ok, finished installing.

What do, /g/? I like the DE, had to enable networking manually which was weird (never had to do this before especially for a wired connection). The chime on startup is fucking annoying, it sounds like the introduction to an Microsoft infomercial or some shit.

>> No.37950841

>>37950813
read more about installing Infinality.
Install that bulit KVM in Virtualization menu.

>> No.37950891

>>37950813
sudo zypper dup if you haven't updated already. I had the same network problem, probably because the iso has some ancient package, all was good after the update. If you like a more up-to-date and kinda rolling relase you could look into tumbleweed. If you do, remember to set priority of the tumbleweed (and packman tumbleweed, if you use it) repo to 98, or you will get some werid errors with zypper from time to time, nothing big and they go away on their own but it's a bit annoying

>> No.37950992

>>37946114
>sage

>> No.37951992

>>37950891
Updated my system already.

What else should I install?

>> No.37952027

>>37951992
I don't know, whatever you need I guess. I wuold suggest installing clementine instead of amarok as a music player

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