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So /g/,

Why is the graphics card industry so terrible at naming conventions?

For example, tell me which of pairs theoretical cards would be better:

11870G or 11870GT?

7850 or 7780?

7850 or 6990?

Do any of these numbers actually MEAN anything, or is the only thing that indicates the power of a graphics card the price?

>> No.22903433

videocard names: 1% fact, 99% marketing

>> No.22903443

>11870G or 11870GT?
Do not exist.

>7850 or 7780?
There will be no 7780 card.

>7850 or 6990?
6990 will be more powerful.

>> No.22903449

>>22903404
Is this a joke?

>>22903443
Thank you.

>> No.22903459

>>22903404
sauce on that hoodie?

>> No.22903481

>>22903443
>doesn't understand "theoretical"
typical tripfag.

>> No.22903483

>>22903459
>"hoodie?"
>no hood

Casual fashionista

>> No.22903486

ATi: <generation><series><card>
> ex: 7870
> generation 7
> serious 8
> card 70

NVidia: <series> <generation><card>
> ex: GTX 480
> series GTX (performance/enthusiast)
> generation 4
> card 80

If you understand these simple ideas, it's not hard to understand performance hierarchy. It's not like you're not going to look up benchmarks anyway.

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>>22903459
/fa/ here, don't bother

>> No.22903525

>>22903498
good save, and they say there are no good people in the internet

>> No.22903545

>>22903498
/fa/ has bros? I misjudged them ;_;

>> No.22903561

>>22903498
Oh wow, thank you. I appreciate it.

>> No.22903574

>>22903486
so there is something of a mm/dd/yyyy vs dd/mm/yyyy thing?

>> No.22903583

>>22903486
>serious

Lol'd

>> No.22903589

Why is there an "enthusiast" category anyway? It sounds like "retard we can sell overpriced shit to".

>> No.22903597

I don't see anything wrong with the names, if you aren't retarded you'll be able to understand them.

>> No.22903628
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>>22903459
>Not wearing glorious $10 Wal-Mart jackets.
Fucking plebs.

>> No.22903633

>>22903589
I like questions that are followed immediately by the answers.

>> No.22903677
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22903677

triple layered Nepalese wool and fleece, damn its toasty warm

>> No.22903687

>>22903597
>Go to the store
>See 7350 for $30
>See 6770 for $300
>Have a 3-year-old 7850
>It's better than the 7350 but worse than the 6770

Yeah, makes perfect sense.

>> No.22903706

>>22903628
>wearing camo in public


even /k/ doesnt like doing that

>> No.22903710

>>22903677
>Rainbow
>Not God-Tier camouflage
What are you some kind of pansy?

>> No.22903711

>>22903589

It's a shame enthusiast cards are actually enthusiast cards though.

>> No.22903744

>>22903687
>Go to the store without knowing what you want to buy
You do your research before going. That is what smart people do.

Going to a store without a clue... is the exact opposite of smart.

>> No.22903749

>>22903710
>kosan
>not a pansy
Oh god my sides.

>> No.22903812

>>22903744
>Refuses to go the store unless he knows everything they have in stock
Ok, bro, whatever you say.

Dumbass.

>> No.22903818

>>22903706
>Implying it isn't socially acceptable to wear camouflage where I live.

>> No.22903918

>>22903744
So, faggots, what are you trying to say?

That the grading/numbering system for graphics cards is not completely fucked up
OR
That you shouldn't even think of touching a graphics card until you've gotten 10 benchmarks and 60 positive reviews?

Because those two are mutually-fucking exclusive. They could save people a lot of trouble by having a meaningful naming/grading system.

>> No.22903924

>>22903812
>To make this pizza, you need a specific type of cheese
>Go to the store without knowing what type of cheese it actually is
>Compare different cheeses in-store, with no actual resource to aid the comparison, no clue as to what cheese is actually needed
Dumbass indeed. That is why you do research BEFORE going to the store, so you know what you want to buy.

>> No.22903938

>>22903574
>not using yyyy/mm/dd
Really, the whole world needs to switch.

>> No.22903955

>>22903924
Can you make me a pizza?

>> No.22903956

>>22903924
More like this, shithead:
>Want to make pizza using provolone cheese
>Go to store, find out they have Provolone, Provolone Sharp, Provolone Extra Sharp, Provoloni, Spiced Provolone, Provolone: Pizza Edition, Provolone 2
>Differences range in the hundreds of dollars
>60% of the "provolones" will poison your pizza

>> No.22903963

>>22903918
>Higher series number = better performance
>OMG SO DIFFICULT SO CONFUSING SO IMPOSSIBLE
Good grief!

>> No.22903994

>>22903812
Wow, the fucking point is you don't go into a store without knowing what you want. This >>22903486
puts it in the simplest terms possible. I prefer the AMD system myself. Also he didn't mention the ocassional suffix on Nvidia cards, but that also really depends on the series.

>> No.22904013

>>22903956
>Want to make pizza using provolone cheese, specifically: Provolone: Pizza Edition
>Go to store, find out they have Provolone, Provolone Sharp, Provolone Extra Sharp, Provoloni, Spiced Provolone, Provolone: Pizza Edition, Provolone 2
>Buy Provolone: Pizza Edition
SO DAMN DIFFICULT!

The internet: Has facebook... and also useful information!

>> No.22904023

>>22903963
But that's simply not true.

My 6850 outperforms 8800

>> No.22904042

>>22903994
You shouldn't HAVE to know the specs of every fucking graphics card on the market in order to make an "educated purchase"

That's the fucking point.

>> No.22904043

>>22904023
>Higher series number
You are comparing products from two different companies. They do not have the same series numbering.

>> No.22904055

>>22904013
>/thefalcon/ - Pizza and Guides

>> No.22904059

>>22903963
I have a Radeon 7000, that a Radeon 4870 would disagree with.

>> No.22904063

>>22904042
>You shouldn't educated yourself in order to make an "educated purchase"
Hahahaha!

>> No.22904069

>>22904043
see
>>22904059

>> No.22904107

>>22904069
>>22904059
Your example is invalid: Neither are available for purchase.

>> No.22904110

Which, by the way...

http://www.diamondmm.com/S60PCI64.php

Apparently the Radeon 7000 sports Blu-ray playback capability?
Anyone else want to call bullshit on that with me?

>> No.22904124

>>22904107
>>22904107

http://www.google.com/search?q=ATI+Radeon+7000&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozill
a:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=ATI+Radeon+7000&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&
amp;hs=3UB&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=shop&ei=0ug
5T6GyCILNtgeTuuDOCg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=6&ved=0CDgQ_AUoBQ&bav=on.2&
#44;or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=82b1a101c1ec1841&biw=1366&bih=615


http://www.google.com/search?q=ATI+Radeon+7000&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozill
a:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&amp
;hs=ipq&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&tbm=shop&source=hp&q=ATI+Radeon+4870&pb
x=1&oq=ATI+Radeon+4870&aq=f&aqi=g3&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=16455l17973l1l18001l4
l3l0l1l1l0l59l163l3l3l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=82b1a101c1ec1841&biw=13
66&bih=615


You were saying?

>> No.22904150

>>22904124
What am I supposed to be seeing? I get a blank page.

>> No.22904186

>>22904150
Why would you even respond to that? And where's my pizza?

>> No.22904196

>>22904150
woops

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=ipq&rls=or
g.mozilla:en-US:official&q=ATI+Radeon+4870&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=16455l17973l1l18001l4l3l0l1l1l
0l59l163l3l3l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1366&bih=615&um=1&ie=UT
F-8&tbm=shop&cid=4788345676027869144&sa=X&ei=6Og5T_mgCM-Jtwf_xY3-Cg&ved=0CJcBEPM
CMAM

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=ATI+Radeon+7000&hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=sho
p&cid=3507084259895278521&sa=X&ei=1Ok5T4qGC9PptgfJsLjXCg&ved=0CJUBEPMCMAI

>> No.22904223
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"Plus RADEON 7000 has industry-leading, built-in DVD playback capability. "

>industry leading DVD playback
Mfw

>> No.22904251

>>22903481
that isn't a typical tripfag. that's mothafoking Falcon!

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>>22904196
...eBay?

>>22904186
I do not know. I think he wants to make a point by using two cards from 2003 and 2008, both of which have been EOLed for eons, and cannot be bought in stores.

>> No.22904268

>>22904042
Or you could just...read a review or find a comparison. You don't need to know the intricate details of its design.

>> No.22904284

>>22904259
There are retailers of both cards.
Not just ebay results.

I'm just saying naming schemes are retarded, if you made a 7000 series years ago...
And now you're using 7000 series again.

DERP

>> No.22904295

>>22904284
HD7000.

Check.

Mate.

>> No.22904301

some examples from my own computers in recent history (by performance)

ATI: 6500 < 9700 <<< 4550 < 5450
NV: 5700 <<< 7800 <<< 275

makes perfect sense.

>> No.22904303

Hey Falcon, where do you work these days?
I'm going to be employed somewhere respectable in the near future.

>> No.22904321

>>22904295
Yes, but while the new one may be HD...
The old one had Industry Leading DVD playback...

>> No.22904323

>>22904259
I mean, granted they can be bought on eBay, which is a type of "store" if you want to get technical...

...but that is like saying:
>This toy model from 1921 has a higher number than that toy model from 1949!
How does this affect you when no store actually sells them any more?

You have to go out of your way to compare two obsolete models in order to confuse yourself with the numbering. That is not logical, nor realistic.

>> No.22904359

>>22904303
>I'm going to be employed somewhere respectable in the near future.
Good for you. I hope your salary is satisfactory, and your working hours are sane, and leave you with time leftover to socialize.

>> No.22904396

>>22904323
Well you can't tell me rebranding doesn't fuck stuff up.
Nvidia's entire line up after the 9000 series...

Hell the Geforce 300 series was just a blatant rebranding scheme for OEM's

Jesus...
The average consumer gets dicked there.

And you know who cares about the average consumer?
I fucking don't.
Not anymore.
Fuck them.
Fuck them hard.
Let them buy Apple and burn in hell.

>> No.22904419

>>22904359
No seriously bro, I want to know what you do.

>> No.22904446

>>22904419
I go to my office and program. Mostly mobile applications, and typically contract work for very large companies or governments.

>> No.22904553

>>22904446
-drools-

ooooooh
aaaaah

I wish I could code web apps all day.
(I don't really like mobile app coding)

Unless it has to do with the Google Map API or integration. That stuff is interesting.

My job is monkey work. :'(

I'm going to school to get out of it though...

Which by the way, working 40+ hours/week and going to school full time for a double major in Networking and Security is a bitch.

>> No.22904720

>>22904013
>implying Provolone: Pizza Edition isn't just provolone that costs $150 extra

>> No.22904762

>>22904553
>I wish I could code web apps all day.
The first year is great fun.

The second year is... average.

The third is monotonous and boring. You can feel your brain slowly turning to cheese from the lack of exercise, as the jobs just become copy/pasting stuff, as you simply cannot be bothered to actual code anything any more. Your body has already changed, fully adjusting your backbone to fit into the office chair at a tilted angle, and you sleep with your eyes open, as your hands continue to copy/paste. Days or weeks go by without you doing anything more interesting than looking at pictures of cats. You envy hamsters on hamster wheels for the greater variety they have in their lives. The best thing about your day becomes the meals, since they involve you getting out of the chair and away from the PC. After a while, you as a human being cease to exist, and your soul fuses with your work PC, which you know more intimately than your wife. Your sense of time and timing stops, and 5am or 5pm become nothing more than meaningless numbers. You fantasize about going to a forest with an axe and cutting down trees, then planting potatoes and onions in the cleared areas. There are cockroaches that live in your keyboard, and you feed them with bread crumbs. They do not have names, but they have learned to be friendly.

This is my fourth year.

>> No.22904833

>>22904762
And thus, you are on /g/

>> No.22904869

>>22904833
It helps keep me sane.

>> No.22904882

>>22904869
Well... something close to "helps" and something close to "sane."

>> No.22904885

>>22904762
When they ask us why we install gentoo. We will point to this great tome.

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>>22903924
>>22903955
>>22903956
>>22904013
>>22904055
>>22904720
pizza thread

>> No.22905026
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>>22904986
PIZZA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love pizza! I adore pizza! Also: I dote on pizza and crave it, as well as want it and often need it! Pizza is my opium and my heroin.

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>>22905026
dat sum deep dish

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>>22905048
Wish they would open a deep-dish pizza store here ;_;

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Is this the food porn thread?

>> No.22905185

>>22905154
Now that I recall, I might have gotten all those pizza pics from you, faclon

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>>22905178
No, just CP.

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>> No.22905230

>>22903498
Didn't know /fa/ had coherent users.

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>>22905200
I'm surprised CP isn't a blocked term on 4chan yet but bad / parenting is.

Anyway, here's what looks like some sort of fancy pizza-esque thing.

>> No.22905247

>>22905238
Is it a calzone?

I want one.

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>>22905185
But I am getting a few new ones from ITT!

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>>22905247
Me too, bro.

I don't have...like any more pizza pictures. So have whatever this is.

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>>22905238

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>>22905272
Jokes on you, some of them are reposts.

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So I went to Italy last summer.

The pizza there is WAY different.

This picture is from wikipedia, but I visited this very shop.

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>>22905281
I have some "epic foods" pics as well...

...but honestly, they are not as awe-inspiring as pizza.

Some are quite outstanding though.

>> No.22905385

>>22905353
Yeah it's not what you'd expect. It's like this in most of Europe.

>> No.22905397

>>22905366
ew

yeah, pizza is still the dominant food

>> No.22905400

>>22905281
Oh my, that does look delicious!

>> No.22905410

>>22905366
What on earth is that on the top layer of that thing? Looks delicious. Also, potatoes are bad for your gains.

>> No.22905436

>>22905366
that looks fucking delicious

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>>22905400
I have 2 or 3 more I think

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>>22905454
Oooh!

>> No.22905491

More Pizza dammit!

>> No.22905494
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>>22905475
That one makes my heart stop for a moment every time I see it.

>> No.22905496

>>22905475
rip arteries

>> No.22905529

>>22905454

Awesome. Gonna try this soon

>> No.22905544
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>>22905494
There is more.

>> No.22905546

>>22905475
HHNNNNGGGG

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>>22904762
That was deep man.

>> No.22905576

>>22905410

The white round slices of something is called fresh mozzarella. If you are /lucky/ you know someone who you can buy it from that doesn't make it from pasteurized milk.

There's a shop down the road from me where I can buy a few balls of the stuff.

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HOW CAN THESE PIZZAS LOOK SO GOOD?

>> No.22905603

PLEASE STOP POSTING CHICAGO STYLED "PIZZA" IT IS NOT REALLY PIZZA. IT IS A FUCKING CASSEROLE

>> No.22905609

>>22905603
shut your whore mouth

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>>22905597
ikr?

>> No.22905681

Does bacon taste good on pizza?

>> No.22905685

Yo, falcon, are you going to update the guide soon?

>> No.22905691

>>22905681
better than pepperoni i would say
but i prefer ham to either

>> No.22905701

>>22905685
I read that the 7770 will be released tomorrow. Maybe after, I think. For now, there is not much to add: Just the 7950, and only in the absolute highest tiers.

>> No.22905713

>>22905652
it wouldn't be falcon without chicago deep dish pizza

>> No.22905718

http://tiny batman url.com/falconguidetosauces

>> No.22905747

>>22905701
Alright, I just wanted to know.

>> No.22905861

7770 will be pointless, a minor upgrade over the 6770 that is more expensive than a better card in the 6850

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>>22905861
I doubt it'll be minor, as for release date, should be out this week some time. Ignore the first line, just typical ausfag grief.

>> No.22906320

>>22905718
shit fuck god damn

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