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Reviews are out:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5261/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/

>> No.21774874

I shall wait for the Phoronix Linux review before considering buying this - if the AMD open-source drivers have caught up with Catalyst, I will buy it, if not then I'm sticking with Nvidia cards under Nouveau.

>> No.21774876

>inb4 over 9000 threads are made about this

>> No.21774921

>>21774876
Why would you want to post in a thread other than Falcons?

>> No.21774944
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23% better than 6970, 8% better than the 580.

Honestly, I was hoping for better, but I guess this is not bad. At least the price is somewhat reasonable for the performance.

>> No.21774957

>>21774921
I don't. I especially avoided that inelite faggot's thread
Just saying that everyone and their faggot smiling dog will make a thread about this because "OMGZ NEWS"

Seriously, Falcon. Thoughts on this?
How finished is nvidia?

>> No.21774966

>>21774957
o

>> No.21774977

>>21774944
Are the drivers even fleshed out for it yet?

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>>21774957
>How finished is nvidia?
The number of people buying the 7970 will be equal to the number of people buying the 580.

So... nVidia is not finished at all. $550 cards are not exactly what makes or breaks a company.

Though the performance is admirable.

>> No.21775000

>>21774944
Think this will improve with driver maturity?
I for one love the vent on the back. i use aircooling and this is a ncie little bonus

>> No.21775004

Well fuck...

>> No.21775012

>>21774801
Worth selling my 6950 for?

>> No.21775016

>>21774944
What about compute performance?

>> No.21775020
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Wow, AMD still can't do DX11...

Anyone else really disappointed in this card? It is $550 and is barely better than a last gen card in some tests while outright losing in a lot of benchmraks.

>> No.21775022

inElite is a crybaby

>> No.21775030

>>21774977
nope, but its still beating the 580, expect greater performance in the coming months.

should also mention teh overclock potential
>1125
>30w extra at load
If AMDs lower end cards offer similar power/performance and compute/tesselation then yeah, it could be a rough few months for nvidia.

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>>21774992
Pricing is all wrong. It's as if AMD is trying to justify the price of the 580, which is clearly priced wrong to begin with. It's making dual-gpu cards seem reasonably priced.

>> No.21775049

>>21775033
maybe thats teh idea

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>>21774874
nouvaeu and open source amd drivers are about the same - in that they are so terrible it's hard to compare them in a reasonable manner. It's not as if any linux drivers are particularly polished, but you are looking at the worst ones right there.

>> No.21775059

No word on the 7950? That's... kind of disappointing.

>> No.21775065
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OH SNAP ALREADY?

inb4 sticky

>> No.21775067
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>>21775012
Nah! Double the price for 30% better performance?

>>21775016
Compute performance is stellar.

>> No.21775079

>>21774992
nvidiafag:
>ATI is superior bang/bug everywhere
well high-end performance is what matters
>ATI has the best high-end performance, too
well ATI DRIVERS EVERYONE BUYS NVIDIA CUDA

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>>21775049
To make people think their high end cards are reasonably priced while ensuring that nobody has the money to purchase any of them? Wise business move.

>> No.21775091
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What the fuck is up with the HD 7970's Civilization V performance at lower resolutions only to come out on top at 2560 x 1600?

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>>21775033
It really is bad. I am glad you can agree with me that it doesn't look like a next gen card.

Looks like AMD still doesn't know GPGPU is the future

>> No.21775099

>>21775079
Does anything use CUDA anyways? Other than research institutes.

>> No.21775100

>>21774801
>INelite's tears are delicious
>will buy this card
>Pray inelite dies in a housefire

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>8% better than the 580

BULLDOZER ROUND 2

AMD IS DOUBLE FINISHED

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>>21775091
no drivers.

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>>21775020
>outright losing
LOL!

>> No.21775132

>>21775111
I'll wait 6 months before giving the final verdict on the cards. Drivers need to mature, especially on a completely new architecture.

>> No.21775136

>>21775020
How the fuck does a 590 do worse than a 580? Jesus fuck what

>> No.21775140

>>21775067
>Nah! Double the price for 30% better performance?

Oh, my bad....I guess I was asking about the 7950, not 7970...

The ~$250 tier card...the ones I usually stick to.

6950 > 7950...Even less worth it?

>> No.21775145

>>21775020

It lost in one bench, and that was Civ 5.

Go fuck yourself

>> No.21775147

>>21775120
That is not a significant enough margin to warrant buying at the ludicrous price of $550. If you disagree you are a fanboy. Admit it, the 7970 is a bad card.

>> No.21775156

>>21775020
The red bar, the 7970 is ahead.

>> No.21775157

>>21775067
>Compute performance is stellar.
Aww yeah.

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>>21775132
And by 6 months you will have nvidia's answer. Nvidia I would think needs less mature time. They both mature in the first few months performance wise, but only one of the two fixes bugs that shouldn't even exist during the first few months (if not more)

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Well, it seems that AMD is indeed the single-GPU king, this time around.

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>>21775147

>> No.21775179

>>21775147
It has better performance than a 580.
It is around the same price.
It uses considerably less power.
It OC better.

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>>21775136
>590
Found your problem.

>> No.21775181

Someone post more OC's, it's 1150 core clocks are not something you see everyday without below zero cooling.

>> No.21775184

>>21775067
>STELLAR

HOLY SHIT DO YOU EVEN READ THE REVIEWS. ANAND WAS DISAPPOINTED BY IT AND IT CAN'T EVEN MATCH GF104 IN COMPUTE FUNCTIONS. ARE YOU RETARDED? YES, I MAD.

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>>21775161
I think I'll be waiting for Kepler in GK104.

>> No.21775186

no need to hump the 7970 on release, gonna wait for nvidia counter part and make the decision then.
Though going AMD has been easy the past 2 gens. Hopefully nvidia truly delivers something finally.

>> No.21775189

>>21775179
Dont listen to him or his inane comments.

>> No.21775192

>>21775136
>Nvidia
There's your problem.

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>>21775099
HTPCs get much visual benefit from cuda.
But mostly it is for real work. And real work is where money is to be made with quadro and tesla. If real work did not make nvidia money, then I don't think fermi would exist.

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Wow this card is a loud PoS, I am glad that most of /g/ hates it. I hope AMD actually learns from this failure.

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Not so good in BF3, though.

>> No.21775207

lol @ AMDfag attaining wood for the first time in years over a card that seems to be designed as a predecessor to future release cards for future release OS's & as of yet unspecified changes to directx & 3d.
Meh, one word /g/ DRIVERS.
thank you!

>> No.21775220

>>21775197
Cool stuff. Thanks.

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>>21775185
I will be skipping this generation entirely. No games require more than what my 5970s can deliver, as disappointingly buggy as they are.

>> No.21775236

>>21775202
>2 FPS
Wow... Jesus AMD, get your shit together.

>>21775185
As will I

I like you, you are a good poster and are smart enough to make your own opinions.

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>>21775236
>compliments from in elite
Where are mine?

>> No.21775249

>>21775201
But dude its all about PERFORMANCE right?

hypocritical dumbshit

>benchmarks released not over an hour ago, /g/ that is aware is impressed by 'em.

>your a clown by the way, making good entertainment by making a total mockery of yourself.

>> No.21775252

>>21775224
Worst case scenario, I'll probably stick with my 9800gt. Don't need anything else for my needs.

>> No.21775254

>>21775201
Why don't you just stop making comments? No one cares about your opinion. People just want to discuss the card, not bad mouth it. Why don't you just do the sensible thing and get over your ridiculous adversity?

>> No.21775256

A potentially good thread has become a tripfag circle jerk. And ffs spicard keep your perversions to yourself.

>> No.21775266

So its taken this long for AMD to come out with a product that is just barely above a 580? So once again they will be on top until nvidia blows them away with the next series...

Stay classy amd!

I was hoping for a super flop though, I didn't get enough bulldozer tears.

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This is cute.

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>>21775256
My other fetish is seeing anonymous upset.

>> No.21775284

Don't worry In Elite, you have the HD8000 to look forward to as well.

>> No.21775289

Where does the GTX 560 Ti come into play here?

>> No.21775290

>>21775270
Does Nvidia even now how to make efficient products?

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>>21775236
>I like you, you are a good poster and are smart enough to make your own opinions.

I currently have the GTX 460. I don't really need to replace my CPU/mobo so that leaves me to my video card. My laptop is 4 years old so that is waiting for Ivy Bridge.

I can manage BF3 just fine on Medium/High at 1920 x 1200 but I want more.

I see the HD 7970 as an improvement but there are still too many unknowns and bad history from AMD to make it a 100% deal.

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I can envision it already

Q2 2012
In Elite vs. The Falcon
in
Keplerville 4D

From now, only time will tell
Just keep those earmuffs and fire extinguishers ready

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>>21775256
3 tripcoders and this is suddenly a circle jerk.
>>21775254
Arguing with inElite. lol

Never change /g/. Never change.

>> No.21775299

>>21775270
NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT POWER CONSUMPTION.
Get your shit straight, faggot

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Excellent temps.

>> No.21775308

>>21775254
It is not my fault people try to egg me on. I am just pointing out that there are several places where this card isn't excelling and expressing my disappointment.

>>21775247
Despite the weeaboo shit and general lunacy you are a better poster than 99% of /g/.

>> No.21775309

>>21775289
Will be made irrelevant by the 7850.

>> No.21775317

>>21775298
>Confirmed for tripfag

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>>21775299
>NOBODY FUCKING CARES ABOUT POWER CONSUMPTION.
Wonderful

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When is the rest of the 7000 series coming out?

>> No.21775331

>>21775300
What the fuck Nvidia do you make graphics cards or heaters?

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>>21775317
Who are you quoting?

>> No.21775337

>>21775296
IN Elite is a pro-nVidia shill.

I am neutral. For $550, there is no way I am going to recommend the 7970. Sure, it wins over the 580 in everything... but I did not recommend the 580 either.

But there is a silver lining: If nVidia lowers the 580 price significantly, that would be awesome.

>> No.21775339

>>21775201
It's honestly hilarious that you think your opinion is above others. It's as if you're trying to make yourself seem retarded (if you havent already accomplished such a thing).

Do go on. So far between several threads, you're giving me a good laugh here.

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>>21775335
>Doesnt no about green text.

>> No.21775355

>>21775308
I know people egg you on, but I guess the only way to stop that is to not retaliate? I just enjoy reading opinions about these kind of things and not so much everyone arguing. You have to admit they did things right, but nVidia do things right as well. No one is ever going to make a card that absolutely covers every single one of these areas and until that time if it comes I hate to think that this keeps happening... As long as you make a relatively sensible opinion I can respect you.

>>21775298
I wasn't arguing, I was just annoyed that these threads are just people flaming at each other.

>> No.21775356

AMD jacked up the price because nvidia has NO CARDS

>> No.21775358

>>21775348
*know
durrrr

>> No.21775362

>Anand

Worthless Nvidia bias as always. Why can't there be a decent site with non-biased reviews?

>> No.21775363

>>21775300
If you have a decent cooling system temps aren't ever a problem unless you do a ridiculous OC.

>>21775299
I agree, power consumption means fuck all to the real deal gamer.

>> No.21775367

>>21775356
MOAR CARDS

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Needs some quiet, custom HSFs though. Given the temps earlier, I think custom HSFs have the potential to make this a super quiet card. Oh well, wait and see.

>> No.21775376

>>21775355
Just ignore in elite. He has been confirmed for autistic tier for awhile.

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>>21775337
>Nvidia lowering prices

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>>21775348
>no

>>21775355
>I wasn't arguing, I was just annoyed that these threads are just people flaming at each other.
Don't worry about it.

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>>21775337
>calling yourself neutral
Do you have an unbiased opinion about your personal bias?

>> No.21775400

>>21775386

>>21775358

>> No.21775409

>>21775363
>real deal gamer
>Superscalar cards like Fermi and GCN
Yeah yo supah gamer bro u be bringing bitches dowwn on 600 FPS in TF2 with yo flamethrower yo

Shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself further.
Did you move from that 8800GT yet?

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>>21775379
lol

(fuck these new capchas)

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>>21775394

>> No.21775416

>>21775337
Im glad to see that you out of most on /g/ can be neutral. I agree with your point though, at these price points it doesn't really matter. If they were to lower the prices (of either) I'd be very happy though.

It'll be interesting when nVidia come out with their next line of cards, of course the same type of threads will occur but it'll be nice to see some more competition.

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>>21775356
Or to offset bulldozer's failings.

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>>21775400
Who are you responding to?

>> No.21775437

>>21775308

>1% of the benchmarks has the 580 ahead.

ITS OVER AMD IS FINISHED

i know you are a huge troll, but still. its fun to fuck around.

>> No.21775438

>>21775372
Dont worry, we all know you are one of the few acceptable tripfags.

>> No.21775446

>>21775379
They did it with their previous cards. I expect that they will do it now.

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Anyone else here facepalming when this faggot in elite makes a post? All I've seen him do is cherry pick benchmarks, and bitch about crap like he has nothing else better to do.

Pic related, It's elite's toaster.

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>>21775362
Statements like these is what makes people end up reading only the most biased sites because they are unaware of their own bias.

>> No.21775455

So when is Kepler out? Last I heard it was July.

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>>21775436

>> No.21775462

falcon, what do you recommend atm? i got a 2gb 6950 for $270, could i have done better in that price range?

>> No.21775465

Lol at all these hate posts being done by inElite without his name and tripcode.

We see right through you...

>> No.21775475

>>21775416
yeah, when this generation has $250-$300 cards from both pepsi & coke we'll see who prevails, I'm neutral too of course

>> No.21775476

>>21775436
youmustbenewhere.jpg

>> No.21775478

Gentlemen, a concluding statement.
The 7970 has a power about similar to the GTX 580, at a similar price point.
At a time of newer raping games such as Battlefield 3, which are both very fun, but bring your graphics card down to your knees, we must settle for the best, at the lowest price.
I think it is safe to say the 7970 is a failure. It fails to run BF3 at 60 FPS on 1200P, and therefore, at $550, fails. The 28nm die was not successfully finalized, and we must hope for the best around Radeon 8000.

Hopefully, NVIDIA or AMD spend enough time to fix 28nm, and lower prices or yields. However, 7950 is like the 6950, and is mid $300, and can be unlocked to a 7970. However, this is very doubtful.

>> No.21775486

>>21775394
Didn't he take money from some company to promote their stuff? He really is the worse poster on /g/.

>>21775355
I am giving my opinion but people take it the wrong way. They say I am autistic and that I am shill but the reality is that I am disappointed with the 7970/

>> No.21775489

>>21775455
>"We've got 28nm samples in the labs"!
>a week ago
>Jen Hsung Huang
Notice the samples and not 'kepler', which means somewhere late Q2, possibly Q3 if AMD doesn't jew out all wafers.

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>>21775476
Where is your image?

>> No.21775498

>>21774876
Who are you quoting?

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>>21775452
I don't facepalm when I see in elite post because I'm not 12 and I don't take him seriously or ignore him. If you can't do this, you have some maturing to do.

>> No.21775506

>>21775493
>>>/b/

>> No.21775512

>>21775478
So since the 580 cant run it at 60fps on 1200p its a failure to. Right?

>> No.21775518

>>21775478
>runs similar to 580
It wins in every benchmark
>fails to run battlefield 3 at 60 fps
Bullshit, my 6950 gets almost 50 fps

>> No.21775520

>>21775486
I can understand your enthusiasm, but I think that the way you approach these situations in terms of how you present yourself and wording you could do a little better. That's what I like about Falcon, he remains to be respected among the community because he watches how he presents himself and I'm sure that in time you could maybe do the same.

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>>21775506
Where is your image or text response?

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>>21775489
Or maybe the yields just need a little working on

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>> No.21775535

>>21775498
If you dont know what "implying" or green texting is gtfo.

>> No.21775537

>>21775462
That is fine. The only alternative is a 560 Ti 448, if you can find it for that price (I am seeing it at ~$300 everywhere).

With the 7970 for $550, you can expect the 7950 to be somewhere between $350-$450, most likely to ~$450.

>> No.21775538

>>21775518
at 1280x800, sure

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>>21775337
>I am neutral. For $550, there is no way I am going to recommend the 7970. Sure, it wins over the 580 in everything... but I did not recommend the 580 either.

The $350 market looks all the sweeter right now.

>>21775455
GK107 in early 2012 followed by the midrange GK104.

>> No.21775551

>>21775486
>Didn't he take money from some company to promote their stuff?
Burden of proof lies on the presenter.
SPEAKING OF WHICH We haven't even seen NVIDIA benches, and you're claiming superiority?

>> No.21775553

>>21775475
I think people should just go with what suits them at the time. It'll be really good to see what happens when nVidia release their cards. Hopefully they are better than what the original generation of Fermi's were.

>> No.21775558

>>21775502
I didn't mean a literal facepalm. It's just a figure of speech. Also I don't respond to him.

>> No.21775571

>>21775452
Yes we all are. Just ignore him hes retarded.

>> No.21775579

>>21775529
Not 'maybe'.
It's a fact.

Yields won't make Nvidia's engineers stop being idiots though, look at the Evergreen/Fermi fiasco.

>> No.21775582

>>21775478
>I think it is safe to say the 7970 is a failure.
Heh, it is an excellent card, just overpriced.

The best single-GPU card is not a failure.

>> No.21775591

AWWW SHIT THEM OVERCLOCKS.

>> No.21775593

>>21775582

Yes it is.

>> No.21775595

>>21775545
>GK107 in early 2012 followed by the midrange GK104.
I'm gonna need more info on these codenames, I'm assuming GK104 is the 560 Ti replacement, what about the GK107? What's Kepler's codenmae?

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>>21775486
I wouldn't say the falcon is a bad person. But people blindly follow him instead of thinking for themselves. Even if he has the right idea, he is attracting the wrong crowd.

>> No.21775606

>>21775512
A failure at its price point.

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>>21775553
Right now all that matters is if you can wait a few months or not.

>> No.21775610

It's times like this that I'm glad to have inelite filtered.

Anyway, good card, but I'm sad it isn't better, also the price is kinda...high. I'm sure they'll lower it after Nvidia drops their higher end cards though, it has the perf slightly better than a 580, so I can see why they price it near there.

Now we wait and see what Nvidia can bring to the table, kepler better be good.

>> No.21775617

>>21775593
Good point bro you totally convinced me. Well time to let the trifags rot.

>> No.21775618

>>21775486
The reason you get called that is because you always put down the card instead of showing both the good and bad side of things. It's great to have an opinion, however when that opinion involves putting down something even though it clearly has merits in some areas, don't expect warm reception to what you say.

From what I can see right now, from a completely neutral side of things, you show bias towards Nvidea cards at an astronomical level.

>> No.21775619

I can't help but feel the 7970 should really be the 7870

>> No.21775624
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>A completely brand new architecture
>A full node die-shrink
>Performance mostly within a margin-of-error of the GTX 580 unless you game @ 2560x1600
IT'S BULLDOZER ALL OVER AGAIN.
AMD I AM DISSAPOINT.

WHAT IS THIS BS? WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST 1-2 YEARS?

>> No.21775625

How can I filter all tripfags at once? using 4chanX filter.

>> No.21775631

Would it be a bad idea to get a 6970?
I'm not sure if I should get the 6950 instead.

>> No.21775637

>>21775606
Its about the same price as a 580 and performs better. And its on a 28nm chip. Do you really think they are gonna sell these things at a loss?

>> No.21775639

>>21775608
I don't think people should wait, while I would enjoy seeing some action from nVidia in the next month at least, I doubt this is going to happen. At the moment I'd prefer to go with the current releases and see what happens down the track.

>> No.21775644

>>21775582
It isn't a world beater. If you want the best card get a GTX590, if you want to throw your money away get a 7970. If I was buying something I would just wait for the GTX6xx.

I am out and back to reading Little Busters!, I will come back tomorrow when you guys have settled down and we can discuss this like adults.

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>>21775624
>WHAT IS THIS BS? WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING FOR THE PAST 1-2 YEARS?
Who are you responding to?

>> No.21775652

>>21775624
Not to mention Bulldozer is selling like hotcakes.

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>>21775579
If the purpose of fermi was to be used in compute environments than it ended well. I believe that supercomputer in china bought up a large amount of them.

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>>21775595
>GK107
28m, PCIe 2.0, early 2012
Probably a Fermi derived small die to test out 28nm and get a new mobile GPU as soon as possible.

>GK107
28m, PCIe 3.0, Q1/2 2012
GTX 560 Ti replacement.

The GK100 comes out even later. nVidia is doing a bottom up approach this time. They got burned hard on 40nm.

>> No.21775666

>>21775652
I think you mean Llano.

>> No.21775671

>>21775650
>GET OUT

>> No.21775673

Meanwhile, 660(760?) Ti replacement in April, Kepler during summer where heat is scorching!

It's the 5xxx vs First gen Fermi all over again

>> No.21775677

>>21775666

Bulldozer is CONSTANTLY sold out

>> No.21775678

amd wins again

>> No.21775683

>>21775637
The 7970 doesn't cost $550 to manufacture. It costs $550 including R&D, advertisements, payroll for workers, and profit. Mostly the last one. Ever notice how Intel sells $200 i7-3960X's on Retail Edge?

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>>21775671
Who are you quoting?

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>>21775650
AMD.
mfw reading the reviews

>> No.21775691

>>21775666
No bulldozer is actually selling and yes I know its a piece of shit.

>> No.21775692

>>21775644
Don't you 'hate' anime?
I don't know to whom am I responding to animore, your trip is public

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>>21775625
Turn off your computer and you will not see any of them.

>> No.21775704

>>21775631
6950 has better performance/price.

Both are good cards. But the reviews say that there will be more cards released very soon, so maybe that will bring some price reduction for 6xxx cards...

>> No.21775705

I'm far more interested in the single GPU version of the 7XXX. Will be interesting as the price goes down in the coming months considering that crossfire scales exceptionally well.

>> No.21775712

>>21775683
So you mean companies sell their products for profit? How shocking indeed!

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>>21775639
It is a matter of need. I already have a GTX 460. Some people have worse or need to build a computer TODAY. Don't ask me why they need it today but some people do.

>>21775664
I meant GK104 for the second one.

>> No.21775720

>>21775653
Yes, and what do you think GCN is?

>> No.21775722

>>21775624

>Performance mostly within a margin-of-error of the GTX 580

0/10

>> No.21775732

>>21775705
7970 is single gpu

>> No.21775734

>>21775697
But I don't want to do that.

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>>21775688
Is there an person of interest that represents AMD and is willing to take your advice? If not you should contact that individual directly than take the time to respond to this message.

>> No.21775749

>>21775644

you mean if you want the best card get an hd6990

>> No.21775753

>>21775734
Just dont respond to them. They go away when you dont give them attention.

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>>21775720
Something that wishes to capture some of the market that nvidia holds, while sacrificing gaming performance, while still needing a lot of catch-up to meet the hardware complexity and software needed to really compete with nvidia for professional work?

>> No.21775763

>>21775745
>Is there an person
>an person
>an
>an
>an

>> No.21775768

>>21775722
Major launches always bring out the fanboys...

...from BOTH sides, hahaha!

The nest few months are going to be quite fun.

>> No.21775777

>>21775768
>nest

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>>21775763
Who are you quoting?

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>>21775753
Well, I've been here for I suppose 4 years now. I don't think that's going to work.

>> No.21775787

willt he 6000 series become cheaper now?

>> No.21775789

>>21775760
Now go read Anand's final words.

>> No.21775795

>>21775787
Hopefully

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>>21775749
If you want the loudest card with the most microstutter.

>> No.21775805

>>21775787
Nope. Not until the release of the 78xx and 77xx cards.

>> No.21775806

>>21775768
This. Let's grab some CHICAGO STYLE DEEP DISH PIZZA and watch the fireworks.
By the way, for a Malaysian programmer you know English pretty damn good, what's up with that?

>> No.21775816

>>21775760
It's already reached them to the neck. You can hold onto your delusions a while longer until the HD8000 completely destroy them.

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>>21775785

>> No.21775824

>>21775768
It'd be nice if we could get some more from the AMD side though
Perhaps during nvidia's release things will get rough and it'll draw out the AMD crowd

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>my body is ready

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>>21775789
Did he say the same thing? I don't feel like reading the review thoroughly at the moment.

>> No.21775838

getting HD7777

>> No.21775841

>4/5 last post were by tripfags.
Not a circle jerk at all........

>> No.21775846

>>21775553
>Hopefully they are better than what the original generation of Fermi's were.
They will be, but GK104 wont arrive until March and the big flagship chip GK100, wont arrive until May/June.

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>>21775806
>By the way, for a Malaysian programmer
I am not Malaysian. I just live here.

And my English... is not as good as I would like. I have never had the chance to interact with native English speakers for extended periods of time.

As for the pizza...

>> No.21775861

>>21775830
Just the last page, it's even split into 2 sections, the compute part.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5261/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review/25

It's pretty much the same thing Fermi was when it launched, without the housefire fiasco
I'm going to bed.

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>>21775841
Who are you quoting?

>> No.21775874

/g/, I'm just wondering.

In terms of GPUs, would I be better off getting a 6970 or a GTX570?

I hear they're suposed to be pretty equal, but I figured I may aswell ask /g/ first.

>> No.21775877

>>21775848
>I have never had the chance to interact with native English speakers for extended periods of time.
what about us?

>> No.21775880 [DELETED] 

>>21775816
Even if they were to match nvidia in benchmarks they would still lack the convenient software for people to wish to develop on an AMD card professionally. AMD attempted to do this with Stream, but it sucked and I think they gave up. Now they rely on OpenCL, but due to its cross-arch nature it's not going to be the best tool for any job.

>> No.21775882

Everything is always 1920x1200....
Y U NO Have benchmarks for Eyefinity?

Performance drops soooooo hard when running at 5760x1080. Show those benchmarks, and THEN I will make my decision.

>> No.21775887

>>21775848
Second set of questions. What ethnicity does that make you/country of origin? Also, you have a gaming rig, do you actually play games or did you just buy it for the hell of it?
If so, what games do you play?

Your English grammar seems to be pretty good.

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>>21775824
The Fermi launch was beautiful. Remember when the 590 exploded and the 480 cooked eggs?

I do not think that will ever happen again, though. It seems that everyone has matured.

Even IN Elite. Scroll up and see. He is far less childish now.

>> No.21775898

>>21775848
i though they kicked all the Chinese out of Malaysia? Not Muslim enough or summing?

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>>21775882
Perhaps because eyefinity is more of a gimmick than anything a person would want to use. Screen edges tend to break immersion, as does low FPS.

>> No.21775907

>>21775882
Tom's Hardware did 5760 x 1080.

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>>21775907
Nice.

>> No.21775933

>>21775880

But stream works just fine..

>> No.21775937

So... given that this isn't going to be bringing midrange prices down, should I just get a 560 Ti now? I'm a bit tired of waiting, I don't know if I should wait until Kepler.

I'm currently running an 8800GT.

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BULLDOZER ALL OVER AGAIN
A MASSIVE FLOP
ALMOST AS FAST AS A 580 BUT COSTS 100$ MORE WITH 30W LESS USED NOBODY CARES ABOUT

IT'S OVER AMD IS FINISHED

>> No.21775953

>>21775899

while it is sort of a niche, you get more immersed due to the peripheral vision. Plus, when not gaming, have a Profile to switch back over to 3 screens.

>>21775907 Link?

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>>21775861
It really doesn't say anything of value.

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>>21775933
Many things work, it's just a matter of who uses them and how much work are they to use relative to the competition.

>> No.21775978

After reading the reviews,
I get the feeling that the entire point of the 7000 series launch and the development of the GCN architecture was to improve/sell GPGPU compute performance/applications to the detriment of gaming performance because of the forgone R&D resources.

I expected more here.

>> No.21775985

What's the rough estimate? I'm getting 15-30% from anand and less than 10% from some other sites.

How are the drivers? I'm seeing some games that have very little improvement like Civ5

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>>21775877
But this is typing. I can stop, think, scroll up, erase a sentence, re-type it.

To master a language, you need to speak it.

Heck, even if I did not know a smattering of English: I am online, and I can use Google translate.

>>21775887
>Also, you have a gaming rig, do you actually play games or did you just buy it for the hell of it?
Of course I play games. But it is not complete till I get my graphics card, so for now it is just old games that will run on my 8400.

>If so, what games do you play?
All of Blizzard's games, lots of RTSs, Civilization, Prince of Persia, etc.

This is the set of recent games that I got for myself. I also got the free C&Cs.

>> No.21775998

>>21775985
>How are the drivers?
Buy me a 7970 and I'll give you a call.

>> No.21776010

Serious question here, why would you guys buy a high end card if you aren't played at 2560x1440/2560x1600 anyway?

The people pointing at 1680x1050 benches are horrid but 1920x1080 isn't a lot more realistic.

>> No.21776012

The amount of blind fanboyism that comes out in GPU threads is disgusting.

>> No.21776019

>>21775978
That's a good thing, we need OpenCL to win. The alternative nvidia bullshit would be disastruous.

>> No.21776031

>>21775985
>>turn-based strategy game
>>WHY NO 200 FPS?

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>>21775978
It's not due to lack of R&D, I just believe that to get good compute performance you need to have a complex setup, which should mean you end up with less overall shaders, meaning lower gaming performance. As nvidia has been pursuing compute for the longest, it would explain why nvidia cards are always power hungry and low performing for gaming, while being huge, when compared to the strictly-gaming amd cards.

>> No.21776036

>>21775978
It's like you didn't even read the Fusion summit slides half a year ago!

>> No.21776040

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixCQj0AcrhY

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>>21775937
I would. 560 Ti for $210 is excellent. And it is unlikely that we will see competition for it from the new 28nm cards for a bit of time. Maybe a month or two...

>> No.21776049

>>21775997
Get BF3.
SERIOUSLY. I haven't slept in 2 days because I'm aiming for the M60E4. Almost fucking have it.
It's also pretty fun, and brings your graphics card to your knees. There's also the possibility of playing with players like Moot, invisibro, and some assholes.

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What part of "worksafe board" don't you creeps understand?

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HOW FAR CAN THESE OVERCLOCK UNDER WATER

THE 580 CAN REACH BEYOND 1GHZ EASILY IN A FULL LOOP AND GOES CLOSE TO 590 STOCK PERFORMANCE

>> No.21776087

>>21776043
I'd like to remind you that the 6950 1GB is quite a bit faster than the 560Ti due to driver maturity.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/331?vs=330
It also comes with better power consumption if you care about that.
I think the difference is 10$? You can still unlock it if you feel like it

>> No.21776093

>>21776049
>Get BF3.
I have an 8400.

And even then: FPS is really not my thing. I like more strategy/thinking games.

I am kinda hoping to get a DotA 2 invite from a friend, soon.

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>>21776049
I liked Bad Company 2 more.

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>>21775768
Here you go. I'm a little late, but this is the best image that will describe the next couple of months.

>> No.21776100

>>21776058
They easily break 1GHz without any voltage tweaking and at below stock 580 temps

>> No.21776104

>>21776049
>aiming for the M60E4
M27 IAR is good enough IMO

>> No.21776106

>>21776058
Hey, Broseph Stalin.
Neither Anandtech nor Tomshardware have it in a WC loop. How the fuck do you expect us to know?
Shit, there's probably no waterblocks out just yet.

>> No.21776109

>>21776054
The pedophiles think they are special for some reason.

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>>21776019
>opencl
>cross architecture
>win
That would be a terrible idea. Making something cross architecture seems like a great way to put only the features that the lowest common denominator of cards can use. It would be inefficient compared to using software designed for a specific set of cards. It might be nice to share work through opencl, but real work should be done on cuda or amd's hypothetical equivalent of cuda (I'm not sure that I should say stream here.. I feel as if it was a failure)

>> No.21776120

BULLDOZER ROUND 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO

ITS OVER, AMD IS FINISHED

>> No.21776122

>>21776100
fucking retard a 1ghz ati card is like a 8800

>> No.21776133

>>21776106
HAVE THEY DONE ANY OVERCLOCKING YET

WHY HAVENT THEY DONE SO

SHOW ME THE OVERCLOCKED RESULTS

FUCKING CASUALS

BTW NEWEGG IS HAVING A PRICE MISTAKE ON SSDS

>> No.21776134

>>21776049
>December 20th
>Still not having every unlock
What the fuck, man? I'm not even any good at this game and I've got them all.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/Mediation/stats/352832187/

>> No.21776138

>>21776094
That's because BC2 was epic. BF3 is also epic, but not on the same scale.
>>21776104
>can't hold 200 rounds

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>>21776040
Why is it every handsome, well groomed, and fit young man is a homosexual? Having to deal with all you neckbeards, no wonder the American's can't breed for shit.

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Are these next-gen AMD cards gonna be worth upgrading to, from a 6950 2GB?

Or can I chill out, and just keep happily playing my vidya until the next cards.

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>>21776122
this post gave me cancer

>> No.21776149

>>21776093
you got civ 4 bts?

I usually play monarch or emperor

>> No.21776153

>>21776117
>That would be a terrible idea.
Only terrible for nvidiafanboys.

OpenCL is good for everybody else.

>> No.21776162

>>21776142
>Are these next-gen AMD cards gonna be worth upgrading to, from a 6950 2GB?
No.. neither will the Kepler ones because no fucking idiot upgrades every generation.

>> No.21776165

>>21776138
Use the MG36. It's got a 200 round emag and less than half the reload time. Just spray a hail of bullets down the locker room in Metro and rack up the headshots.

>> No.21776168

>>21776087
>quite a bit faster
Not it is not. 560 Ti ~= 6950. The 6950 would be 2%-3% faster on average, which translates to 1-2 FPS difference, something that is not humanly noticeable.

6950 is a great card, but anon getting a 560 Ti for $210 would be better performance/price than 6950 for $240.

>> No.21776181

>>21776117
But CUDA has been open sourced.

>> No.21776182

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130657

Should I get it? I can't wait for Kepler.

EVGA for the lifetime warranty. Also how are their custom coolers as compared to the reference?

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>>21776153
In the same way that OpenGL is good - nobody uses it.
It's not all about cuda, either. It's just about having specific software for the architecture. amd is welcome to have their own, too, I just don't see opencl being an efficient way of doing anything unless someone plans to keep their code and transfer it between supercomputers - which is pretty why

>> No.21776194

>>21776134
>got it less than a month ago
>have been very busy
I bought it, and realized it wasn't as cool as the Beta. Then I got this thing that takes more time, more money, and pisses me off more than BF3 called a girlfriend, then I started playing again about 5 days ago.

>> No.21776196

>>21776134
>USAS-12 in top 5 weapons

>> No.21776212

>>21776182
>EVGA for the lifetime warranty.
Yes because you'll use this for your entire life. Voodoo Extreme user here. Just ran Crysis the other day with Enthusiast settings @ 60 FPS average.

>> No.21776225

>>21776194
If having a girlfriend is a chore for you, maybe you should reconsider who you go out with.

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>>21776181
Only partially. Cuda must be run on either processors (x86, arm) or nvidia cards. That's the smart thing that they did. They were seemingly nice in that they have enabled other hardware to use cuda code, but the reality is that they have only enabled cpus to use it for testing purposes. There is no running cuda on amd hardware.
Am I wrong?

>> No.21776228

>>21776162
>no fucking idiot upgrades every generation.

I think that's the best way to save money.

>> No.21776229

>>21776148
no, your shitty weird milk gave you cancer

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>>21776168
This is not 2-3% average, Falcon.

The only major difference is in TWMTBP games like Civ5 and HawX, which makes sense as they're on Nvidia's payroll.

>> No.21776232

Guys. Hey guys. Look what I found. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/Radeon_HD_6950_CrossFire/12.html http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/18.html When you CrossFire two 6950, it shits on both 7970 and 580. AND CHEAPER TOO. So what are we arguing about again? Just CrossFire 6950.

>> No.21776236

>>21776149
I pirated it. I think I lost several weeks of my life to it, but I do not play it any more.

>> No.21776253

>>21776196
I always get shit for having a service star with the M320, even though I usually use shot shells or smoke rounds.
Fun fact: I have more kills with the defibrillator than all of the shotguns combined.

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>>21776225
Get a waifu? A wonderful idea.

>> No.21776270

>>21776231
Actually, Civ5 is on Intel's payroll. That's why it runs as well on a GMA900 as on a 5770. Nvidia cards performing well on it was just a happy accident.

>> No.21776272

Do dual-GPU cards scale like Crossfire/SLI does?

>> No.21776274

>>21776138
I think my problem is that it feels so worthless to be a medic. Every Assault I see never does any medic duties and is solely a killing machine. They offer nothing else to the team besides a KDR.

I revive and heal while no one does the same for me.

The defib is majorly broken as well.

>> No.21776279

>>21776253
I thought the defib couldn't kill in BF3? I tried it a couple of times and it didn't work.

>> No.21776292

>>21776231
See:
>>21774944

On average, there is negligible difference between the 560 Ti and 6950. Yes, the 6950 is a little better in a few games, but not to the extent that a 560 Ti is a bad card. With the 560 Ti being ~$30 cheaper, both cards are excellent choices.

>> No.21776295

>>21776266
Or at least a girlfriend that it's enjoyable to be with. Waifu works, too, though.

>> No.21776301

>>21776212

Also EVGA because the reviews on the gigabyte one are really bad, lots of people saying they need to underclock it.

>> No.21776308

>>>/v/

>> No.21776311

>>21776292
>>21774944
>All resolutions
The 560 Ti is great at pumping out 43958139085489235843 fps in 640x480, but not nearly as good at resolutions people actually use.

>> No.21776313

I was expecting dramatic power drops. 45nm to 28nm is pretty huge. This is disappointing.

>> No.21776314

>>21776236
shame
i find it the best out of the series when including BTS.
played civ3 till 2008 then did the switch. civ5 doesnt look too appealing.. yet..

>just one more turn

>> No.21776315

>>21776292

Well, it depends on the card though.

>> No.21776333

>>21776225
Son, if you've ever had a girlfriend, you'd realize shit's not always fun.

>> No.21776336

>>21776292
You don't consider dual bios or unlocking shaders a deal? It's 20$, by the way.

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>>21776308

>> No.21776361

>>21776308
If we took this to /v/ they would tell everyone to get a 590 because it plays minecraft on max.

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>>21776295
You should have an older boyfriend to buy you all this sweet technology.

>>21776301
Yes well you're paying for a lifetime warranty, so you're guaranteed the smoothest experience on everything, regardless of how how long you've had it. When my Voodoo started to show it's age, I just called up the manufacturer, told them what was up, and they sent me another one free of charge.

My friend did this with his 480s and look at how successful he is now.

>> No.21776363

>>21776313
40nm not 45nm. Also, the power consumption is improved by a great bit

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>>21776311

>> No.21776368

>>21776279
It does shock kills in one or 2 hits against all classes besides the Assault class. Assault is nearly invincible against it. But yeah, I have 34 defrib kills and 121 smoke M320 kills.

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>>21776295
I'd tend to think something was wrong with a person if they wanted to spend time with a person without getting something out of it. Perhaps they are simple minded?

>> No.21776389

PROMOTIONS

>> No.21776397
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>>21776032
But both AMD & Nvidia have already had GPGPU-application appropriate products available for a long time: Namely the FirePro & Quadro lines

Why do they feel the need to shoehorn all of this extra useless hardware into consumer gaming cards eating up valuable die and PCB space that could been put to better use adding more texture units, shaders, ROPs, etc..

Especially when there is currently no marketable application base worth a cuss to take advantage of GPGPU hardware, and hasn't been one for years. Consumers are effectively being forced to pay for a percentage of the cards that they'll never be able to see any benefit from.

I thought the same thing about Sandy Bridge. What possessed Intel to devote I think it was ~30% of the 2500K's die to the IGPU when they knew that the 90+% of the people buying a 200$ unlocked processor are going to be using a discrete GPU that trumps all integrated options anyway?

WHAT WAS WRONG WITH DESIGNING A PRODUCT TO MEET A SPECIFIC NEED AS BEST AS WAS POSSIBLE? WHY DO WE NEED JACK-OF-ALL-TRADE-MASTER-OF-NONE PRODUCTS THAT DON'T REALLY EXCEL AT ANY ONE THING AS MUCH THEY COULD ANYMORE? WHY DO I SEE SO MUCH LOST POTENTIAL EVERYWHERE?

FUCK I MAD.
THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT, THE MADDER I'M GETTING.

>> No.21776401

>>21776314
I want to play CivV. I have it, but playing it is not easy on a 8400. I have to turn down everything and the game looks like crap.

Serious shame that they took religions out. It was one of the best parts of Civ IV.

What civ do you play?

>> No.21776410

>>21776369
quit posting nsfw images faggot.

no one cares what you think about relationships too.

>> No.21776411

>>21776401
I play Civ V but it's not deep enough. I've been playing since Civ II but I never felt like I had a grasp of the game until V.

>> No.21776455

>>21776401
>>21776411
We /v/ now, eh?

>> No.21776470

>>21776455
/g/ has been /b/ 2.0 for awhile.

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>>21776455
We can be /ck/

>> No.21776486

>>21776401
do you play sc2?

>> No.21776490

>>21776364
Not when we SLI/CrossFire them. Then we can see around 10 FPS difference in favour of 6950. Granted it's all above 60 FPS except for Metro 2033.

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>>21776410
Stop visiting 4chan at work, problem solved.

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>>21776492
>1 AM EST
>at work

>> No.21776515

>>21776486
I want to, but I need a new graphics card for it.

>>21776490
The guy I was responding to was asking if a 560 Ti was a worthy purchase. He was not asking about SLI/CF.

>> No.21776517

>>21776481
Fuck you Falcon, now i'm hungry
BRB, cooking pizza on my fermi

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>>21776517
My deep-dish pizza folder is huge. You cannot escape.

>> No.21776541

>>21776517
Femi owning master race here, I hit 93C on BF3 so I cant make pasta :( but I could fry and egg or bacon which would smell nice

>> No.21776544

>>21776401
Mansa Musa
(awesome for shores, early defense)
Charlemage
(expand like crazy, rush for landkneght to defend large nation)
Augustus Caesar
pericles and that persian guy for philosophical trait.

ive played them all but keep returning to those ones mostly

>> No.21776545

>>21776510

Implying EST applies to the whole world.

>> No.21776546

>>21776492
>Trolling outside of /b/

>> No.21776552

>>21776397
FirePro and Quadro are just Radeon and GeForce cards with ECC VRAM and OpenGL optimized drivers. Did you really think they design GPUs specifically for each of those brands?

>> No.21776573

>>21776545
It doesn't but there are few here outside of EST. At worst PST.

Falcon is antipodal.

>> No.21776576

>>21776510

real men work night shift

>> No.21776594

>>21776538
also i like keeping civ4 on ssd to load those big ass bitch maps later in the game.
thinking of buying a new one
Crucial M4 128gb 242$ total
Kingston V200 128gb 160$ total

Crucial is ballin for performance but for an os/gaming/my stuff ssd is it worth the extra $$$?

>> No.21776600

>>21776573
I work at an open office. That is, everyone can see my screen.

No one here cares, heh.

>> No.21776613

>>21776594
I have not read any/seen any reviews for the Kingston SSDs, so I cannot comment. But are you in Australia? 128GB m4 is usualyl $200 in the US.

>> No.21776626

>>21776515
FREE DIRT 3 MAN. FREE GAME!!!

>> No.21776652

>>21776613
Canada
its 209$ before tax
the kingston is on sale from 190$, performances is definitely not close to crucial but dunno if those are real world results.

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>>21776545
But EST is just the one that matters most.
>>21776546
I don't think posting porn is the same as trolling.

>> No.21776699

>>21776652
Well the choice is yours. But when buying an SSD, you are buying it for the reliability and speed, and I myself would go for the M4. If it is too pricey, then get this, maybe? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

>> No.21776727

>>21776699
I currently have a 64gb kingston, filled it up. have OS+word and "mandatory games" installed, no room for just play/delete games.

I think ill just cough up the dough for the m4 128gb and not regret, not only get a space boost but a performance one.

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>>21776538
AW HELL YES
IMMA FIRE UP THE FERMITOP

Pic related: 80 C on Minecraft

>> No.21776830

>>21776732
You animal! Stop torturing the poor thing!

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>>21776732
Yours isn't that warm.

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>>21776833
And yours is?

>> No.21777088

>>21776594
>Toshiba controller
No. There's a reason Apple stopped using them in the MBA. The HyperX is the only acceptable Kingston SSD.

>> No.21778291

>>21776898
passive cooling?

>> No.21778308

>>21778291
No, just old and broken.

>> No.21778341

>>21778308
>old and busted
You getting a new hotness soon I take it?

hopefully not that hot, though.

>> No.21778355

Anybody know when this card releases?

>> No.21778383

>>21778341
I called the local stores, and they say that the 7xxx series will not reach Malaysia for another 3-4 months.

So... no, not soon.

>> No.21778393

Alright I have not been keeping up to date with graphics cards since I got my system like a year ago (thanks Falcon), anyways I got a 5870 and thinking I'm gonna wait for the 580 successor, anyone know when that's planned to come out? AMD still has meh drivers.

>> No.21778438

>>21774944
26% faster than the 580 actually.

You posted a fake that I myself made last week.
check the archives.

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>>21778438

nvidia is finished, they will need to sell their 8800gt renaming department and buy more woodscrews to launch something even close before 2013

>> No.21780572

>>21778383
You gonna put the 7970 into the new falcon guide?

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It is regrettable that people are still ignoring their freedom when choosing which graphics card they should use.
The vast majority graphics cards these days use non-free firmware, but one should always double-check on h-node.com to find out whether or not it is proprietary firmware. Proprietary firmware is one of the most worrying parts of the use and expansion of non-free software: I have purchased a graphics card, but now I must also install proprietary drivers, or even switch to a non-free operating system just to use it? This violate my freedom, and I will not support any graphics cards that have such drivers. ATI is the enemy of freedom, and I think that none of them run without some non-free firmware. For nVidia, it depends on the model.

>> No.21780790

>>21775091

Because for BF3 and CivV respectively, both studios implemented Direct Command Lists (DCLs) specifically for Nvidia cards because the hardware supported it. This allowed for a significant performance increase over the 6xxx series for the gtx 580.

Thus, the 7970 outperforming the 580 and 570 is simply a merit of brute force.

If the 7xxx had hardware level support for DCLs, you'd see something along the lines of 15-20% performance boost rather than 3-5%

>> No.21780823

>>21780790

Also keep in mind that the 7970 is basically AMD's version of the gtx580.

Its 2048 shaders are a total of 32 CUs with 16 ALUs each; making it a grand total of a 512 "core" chip. Which if you remember, is what the 580 is in terms of "cores" with CUDA.

Therefore, when the 7xx series comes out. The 780 will arguably have around 768 "cores" and thus will smash the 7xxx series in performance.

But until that happens, and that will happen around Q2 2012; Nvidia's in for a rough ride as one anon mentioned before.

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