legitimate fashion thread

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hey guys, its ya boiiiii, anyone down for a sanctuary thread? a place for those who come here to discuss and learn about fashion in its purest forms rather than look at ugly women, regurgitate tumblr-tier memes, 'cross dressing' threads and the other horrible shit thats invading the board?

2013 wasnt good, but it was paradise compared to now. lets engage one another, lets have fashion renaissance.

ill set the tone by posting some helmut lang but feel free to discuss and pose questions about anything related to legitimate fashion; whether that be the purest of the avant-garde such as ccp or the luxe-wearability of hedi-era dior homme. japanese designers, european, its all welcome.

or perhaps you'd like to discuss how to be a savvy, intelligent, sophisticated consumer of high fashion. thats OK too.

lets raise the bar.

[Anonymous No.9104994]

>hey man i like this collection
>post pics
>yeah that looks great
>i like this aswell
>post pcs
>oh yeah great

nigga you got nothing to say.

[Anonymous No.9104995]

>>9104989
hi pigfuck

[Anonymous No.9104999]

>>9104994
This
Stop trying so desperately to turn this back into 2011 era fa, OP. We both know its not gonna happen

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>>9104994
>nigga
please, stick to the tumblr threads. theres a vast array for you to choose from, i am sure you'll find one to your liking. perhaps the one discussing nike shoes would be of use to u?

[Anonymous No.9105003]

>>9104994
oh so this is a birthday general then?

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>>9104999
>2011 /fa/
>anything to do with avant-garde fashion

welcome to the board.

[potato No.9105006]

What is the appeal of Patrik Ervell? Everything I've seen from him seems really plain, yet he is namedropped quite a lot

[Anonymous No.9105021]

>>>/sufu/

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>>9105006
i can only surmise, as i am not at all an ervell aficionado, but i imagine the appeal is the general ready to wear nature of a lot of the designs. the everyday working man spirit combined with designer quality, cuts and finish.

some people like that subtle subversion.

his palettes are always very strong as well.

[Anonymous No.9105046]

>>9105006
I find him to be a more interesting(if that is even the right word to use) Stephan Schneider. He uses high quality textiles like Schneider but with some more interesting designs. I dont think his textiles are on the level of SS but I can give that up for a little experimentation because all Schneider puts out seems to be cardigans. Why he is name dropped here so much specifically? Probably because of the whole normcore trend a while back and since stonewashed jeans were a staple of that look he was the designer most went to.

[Anonymous No.9105059]

>>9105034
>the everyday working man spirit combined with designer quality,

Hokum. Nigga u got nothinnnngggg to say.

>Also i like the colours

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PE aw14 seems very strong. not a lot of menswear designers doing sportswear like this these days. its refreshing.

[Anonymous No.9105065]

>>9105034
Would agree with most everything except
>working man
I find many of his designs to be very boyish and youthful very few strike me as your typical manly man going to the steel mill look unless you were implying a more buissnessy "everyday man" which I could understand more.

[Anonymous No.9105068]

>>9105006
That face, fucking lol, jesus christ

[Anonymous No.9105069]

>>9105059
>>9104994
Excuse me for my silly question but do I have the pleasure of addressing Merz or Turnleft today?

[Σ▼ƦƟ/ƒ▲/Ğ No.9105077]

>>9105068
That man is Saint Claes part of the Dutch tradition of casual racism. Where is his trusty knave Nigger pete?

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>>9105065
'working man' more in the 'every man' sportswear category more so than the 'american working man' as something envisioned by the contemporary workwear revolution.

[Anonymous No.9105086]

>>9104994
well it seems tht you have been proven wrong quite fast

[potato No.9105090]

>>9105046
This is about the third time I've seen ervell compared to schneider, i dont really know why.

SS seems a lot more "comfycore" (hate to use the term)
Ervell seems a lot more contemporary, fashion forward, with slim cuts and fitted looks

[Anonymous No.9105091]

This may or may not be out of topic but, here goes.

Ok so I'm relatively new to high fashion, and I only know a handful of talked about designers like yohji, raf, lang, ann d, etc. how do you guys know about other fashion designers? I'm mainly into minimalist fashion, but I do tend to go towards more abstract and even comfy core as well occasionally. I'm generally having a hard time developing my own sense of style and can't seem to pinpoint exactly what I want. so are there any other designers I should know about? how do I develop my sense of style?

[Anonymous No.9105097]

>>9105091

>how do you guys know about other fashion designers?

books
internet

>are there any other designers I should know about?

no

>how do I develop my sense of style?

you can start by not saying stupid shit like comfy core

[Anonymous No.9105100]

couple questions

what's the next cav empt/flavor of the month streetwear brand

what will replace the post-ironic 90's fubu/normcore aesthetic that has been trending recently

why does cdg have such a vehement fanbase of diehards compared to other fashion houses

has supreme lost its edge as the premier contemporary streetwear brand

[potato No.9105105]

>>9105091
It takes time, look around whats available
Look up boutiques in your city and go there and try whatever you want on

List of designers:
-damir doma
- christophe lemaire
-daniel andresen
-ute ploier
-jan jan van essche

http://suspensionpoint.ca/
http://ateliersolarshop.be/products

I spend a lot of time searching designers up on Rakuten to see whats good

[Anonymous No.9105110]

>>9105006
super over rated and derivative. the pieces i handled were as well put together as RL polo...

[Anonymous No.9105113]

>>9105091
First off you cant just wake up one day and know how to dress its a process of experimentation and fuck ups. No one dresses perfectly everyone still questions if they look good even if its their favorite fit so you have to find what works best for you. As for learning about designers, if you actually are serious and have time to dedicate to it wont be to hard. Start by branching out visit different sites the usualy suspects are usually the best and give you a very diverse selection that should broaden your knowledge but also help you weed out what you like and at the same time dont completely give up on fa though many knowledgable people post here so you can get some pretty good information here as well albeit it being much more difficult to coerce out of them. It will be a pretty long process but you should enjoy it. Also please dont narrow your tastes to such stupid and misdefined words as comfy-core and minimal please.

[Anonymous No.9105122]

>>9105100

>why does cdg have such a vehement fanbase of diehards compared to other fashion houses

they put out an entire spectrum of things from crazy shit to plain stuff, operations and brand ideology spans not only in the design of the products but the experience of them as well in retail environments, crazy big in japan, eccentrics all over the world can relate to and are touched by what they're doing

tldr people appreciate next level creativity

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PE and SS are not at all similar conceptually o in their designs. people reference them off each other because of their similar business models.

ervells blend of sport/casual wear with sharp tailoring and technical fabrics/designs is something worth noting, reminiscent of lang in that sense, of course the designs and concepts differ, but that amalgam is very cool.

these tech hoodies for example, are very massimo osti stone island esque.

[potato No.9105127]

>>9105100
cav empt is still really popular

cdg is great, always tasteful, doesn't run through a different creative director every few years, a long list of successful diffusion lines (cdg black!!!)

[potato No.9105132]

>>9105100
>cdg fit

[Anonymous No.9105134]

>>9105090
I was thinking more of Ervells knits since thats the first thing that comes to mind when I think SS, which he definitely gets to a similar quality. I don't deny that they put out some very different pieces and obviously have very different motives and backgrounds but to say they are completely unrelated seems unfair. I think both are taking their styles(classic cuts and designs for SS and more modern and slimmed down for Ervell) but keeping the garment quality very high with incredible textiles and locally sourced seamstresses and workers, and yes the belgian artisans are obviously much more talented than American.

[Anonymous No.9105136]

>>9105113
I don't have the right words to describe what i want right now like jesus cut me some slack, it's just that i see a lot of threads tittled "comfy-core" that showcase alot of casual clothing and I was in a way inspired by it. but yeah thanks for the advice.

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>>9105100
>why does cdg have such a vehement fanbase of diehards compared to other fashion houses

cdg as a house is almost 30 years old, it has a unique and important history that few can match.

people have a lot of respect for rei, shes been able to remain independent when a lot of her peers have not, like yohji in that regard.

diversification, diffusion lines etc. all mean a broader spectrum of clientele

while the cdg mainlines still adhere to the labels founding principles.

its a brand that has a lot to offer a varied array of people.

[Anonymous No.9105139]

>>9105127
>>9105122
Favorite CDG lines/designers? Actually some specification for the different lines and especially the different designers and their individual styles would be really awesome.

[Anonymous No.9105140]

>>9105100
>>9105127
i fail to see the appeal in cav empt, but then again i'm not very into loud graphics and streetwear. feel like it's just popular cause of the people at the helm.

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>>9105100
>why does cdg have such a vehement fanbase of diehards compared to other fashion houses

cdg as a house is almost 30 years old, it has a unique and important history that few can match.

people have a lot of respect for rei, shes been able to remain independent when a lot of her peers have not, like yohji in that regard.

diversification, diffusion lines etc. all mean a broader spectrum of clientele

while the cdg mainlines still adhere to the labels founding principles.

its a brand that has a lot to offer a varied array of people.

her history and continued contributions to both men and womenswear(credit to junya not withstanding) goes without saying.

[Anonymous No.9105146]

>>9105136
I wasn't mad at you at all lol. I just think it's silly to limit your style or any style to a few words unless the designer miraculously came out and gave it a definitive style. I did the same thing for a long time and I found it leads to becoming very close minded an believing that every single garment or runway can be compartmentalized to one little thing.

[Anonymous No.9105153]

>>9105122
that makes a lot of sense now

i feel the the only ppl that would even touch their mainline stuff would have to be eccentric/involved in something creative

i always thought their logo was really cool too

[Anonymous No.9105154]

>>9105140
i've never seen anything crazy from cavempt, either

[Anonymous No.9105156]

>>9105140
I think its because of the heave 90s rave culture references and overall cyper-punk feel to it which has obviously been making huge comebacks in almost every way for a while now. I think although very different in their message or motivations many CE fans are also Gosha fans. They both capture that youthful edgy spirit that so many people are going crazy for in fashion right now.

[Anonymous No.9105161]

>>9105156
>right now

[Anonymous No.9105166]

>>9105153
Actually many museums buy the mainline pieces suprisingly or they are often featured in exhibits. The logo is actually only the logo for one of the lines under the CDG name, which is CDG play their streetwear brand known best for their collab with converse and the logo of course.

[Anonymous No.9105171]

>>9105154
>>9105140
just kidding
they have a few cool things right now
too bad it's out of my price range

[Anonymous No.9105173]

>>9105161
There is a reason old helmut and raf pieces are on Y!jp and rakuten for extremely short times because sellers know that people want it right now. Obviously if were talking about the music scene of course its been dead for months maybe even years now, even normcore died what like 5 months ago?

[Anonymous No.9105175]

>>9105139

As of now other than Rei and Junya I like Fumito Ganryu's stuff, Tao is great with tricot but more a fan of Comme Comme than tricot

Newest designer under the company is Kei Ninomiya, not so much a fan of his stuff, saw alot of it in person

Fav lines : Mainline mens & womens, Comme Comme, Black.

Newest line is Girl which looks great too, it's Shirt for girls, before there used to be women's pieces in the shirt line labeled as Shirt Girl but this upcoming season they separated it into its own line

Comme Comme is probably one of my ideal looks for women in general I love looking at girls I know and imagining them in Comme Comme looks etc

you can take a look at recent collections for all the lines here

http://www.fashion-press.net/collections/brand/22

also

http://tenpomap.blogspot.ca/

japanese blog that keeps up to date with all cdg related news

brb playing a game of league

[Anonymous No.9105181]

>>9105173
What I was trying to say was that youthful spirit has always been a sought-after element.

[Anonymous No.9105185]

>>9105181
No doubt but it seems to have had a rather large upsurge in demand recently. No? Maybe I'm just getting brainwashed by all the PF posts I've been seeing lately lol.

[Anonymous No.9105187]

is it just me or are we actually having a well-rounded discussion on fashion! this is great guys, keep it up.

[Anonymous No.9105193]

>>9105187
It just the same 5-6 people that are always in threads like this. It is nice though hopefully some newfriends will brave into it and at the very least find some valuable information.

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>>9105091

heres a quote from an amazing guide written by a great guy

>10. if ur about designer clothing and not just "here to learn dress good and get girls haha" then listen. there are good designers and there are bad designers. while their aesthetics differ, some are shit and some are good. it will take u time and research to ascertain which one you personally identify with. there are many resources on the internet to wit u can learn about each designers career, aesthetic, development, work etc.
these include:
http://stylezeitgeist.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=56
http://supertalk.superfuture.com/index.php/forum/24-superfashion/
http://firstview.com
http://www.contemporaryfashion.net

theres a whole guide to boot, what a swell character

http://pastebin.com/P7tNDB1s

[Anonymous No.9105215]

>>9105197
You're a 23 year old landscaper's assistant in buttfuck nowhere australia and your fashion "knowledge" could be appropriated within 45 minutes of browsing Wikipedia.

[Anonymous No.9105222]

>>9105197
thanks pigfuck

[Anonymous No.9105224]

>>9105215
For what purpose?

[Anonymous No.9105225]

>>9105185
there really isn't any interest

it's just the same few people who camp auctions to resell/collect these ugly rags

the only recent hype re: early raf simons etc was when it become the flavour of the month on suburban tumblr but they were all fucking dumb and couldn't use y!jp

[Anonymous No.9105228]

>>9105215
hey man, knowledge is knowledge, there's no reason why you should bring up the authenticity of what he's trying to say

[Anonymous No.9105232]

>>9105197
do you really think that flipping second hand crap you got off jap ebay makes you some kind of fashion connoisseur? you need to buying as the collections are released and wearing and using the garments in creative ways that complements your lifestyle. your entirety of experience is parallel to a kid who collects warhammer figurines but never plays the game

it might be racist of me to say this, but i dont think an australian in your current life situation could ever be a part of the fashion that you are trying so desperately to emulate. maybe a creative in his 30s living in melbourne i could imagine, but not you. sorry

[Anonymous No.9105234]

>>9105225
nail on the head

[Anonymous No.9105235]

>>9105232
Australian is a nationality not a race mongoloid

[Anonymous No.9105238]

>>9105139
black since i can actually afford it
mainline since i love how crazy it is

[Anonymous No.9105239]

>>9105235
obviously you've never been to australia

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>>9105232
>>9105215
lotta cucks out tonight, dw lads, one day you too can afford nice things, just work hard and be good to your neighbours.

>>9105225
you're right, theres no interest at all, not from stylists, museums or collectors. i mean this entire shoot comprimised solely of og raf and helmut supplied by a new york collector who i've sold thousands of dollars worth clothing tooreally bares no indication at all as to the market for second hand clothing.

>tfw a-list mjodel is wearing a hoodie i used to lounge around in for hero magazine editorial shoot
>bought hoodie for 70
>sold for 600
>no interest

smugtrashmanface.jpg

now back to the thread lads

[Anonymous No.9105254]

>>9105232
Why do you HAVE to buy current season retail to be a true "fashion connoisseur"

[Anonymous No.9105259]

>>9105251
you're even less legitimate than the autists draped in Julius and Y's that post living room fit pics on SZ
you're not of the life, pigfuck. and you probably won't ever be. happy to be proven wrong

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>model is wearing a hl gilet i sold the collector ;)

[Anonymous No.9105267]

>>9105251
re read my post u fucking dweeb

i said ASIDE from the same few people who resell/collect

paypal me and ill buy u a second hand dictionary of rakuten hbt

[Anonymous No.9105268]

>>9105232
> you need to buying as the collections are released and wearing and using the garments in creative ways that complements your lifestyle
I don't agree with buying clothing for the sole purpose of reselling it but you can possibly think that you must wear it and work pieces into fits to understand fashion or be knowledgeable on it. Especially the whole buying current season items, wtf why would you have to do that to like fashion? What if this season was shit? Welp I need to understand so I I must buy it. That makes absolutely no sense. Many people prefer and focus on only a certain part of a designers career. If they have a ton of knowledge about pretty Saint Laurent YSL is that just useless because they don't buy SLP?
>here's a picture of wood trunks I found in case anyone wanted it

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>>9105261
woopsie pic related

>>9105259
if u want a serious response ull have to prove ur worth it, hiding behind anon, probably sitting in ur parents house on a computer they bought u, whilst accusing me of not being about the life wont get u anything.

[Anonymous No.9105276]

>>9105259
You sound like such a snob
Why dont you enlighten us with your views on the industry, styling, and being a fashion consumer.
Better yet post a pic

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>>9105267
oh so aside from the various artists, curators, stylists, industry people who buy and collect no one does

so aside from the people who do it, no one does

nice man thanks for ur insight haha fucken rip boys close the thread

[Anonymous No.9105284]

What a shame. Thread ruined by a jealous autist grasping at straws.

This is why we can't have nice things

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>>9105278
yo aside from the people who follow fashion no one actually does

yo my man aside from the people who particpate in X no one does

those who particpate in X do not participate in X, therefore it can be construed that those who do not particpate in X do not participate in X

fucken ell mate
u absolute mad man uve solved quantum physics

[Anonymous No.9105288]

>>9105284
We can still salvage it. Just need a topic to get it back on point or something

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dw lads jealous teens got shitcanned resume discussion.

[Anonymous No.9105292]

>>9105284
No way this shit is juicy

Fight fight fight fight fight

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posting raf to steer the ship back on course

[Anonymous No.9105298]

>>9105259
This is such an inane post.

Why do you have to be 'of the life' to be interested in something? Who cares? 90% of the people on this board aren't 'of the life' but why does that mean that they can't take an interest in fashion, whether it's just to improve their looks or to learn about the art of fashion?

What a stupid view of things. I feel sad for you, I'm sorry you have such a strong hatred for pigfuck but he's just doing his own thing.

What are you doing?

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>>9105297
helmut lang aw03

[Anonymous No.9105301]

>>9105298
hey pigfuck

[potato No.9105302]

K
So what does CCP do that makes him the frontrunner of avant-garde?
What is exactly so innovative and experimental about his designs and concepts?

Also why does it seem like i am the only one who likes where Jun is taking Undercover?

[Anonymous No.9105303]

>>9105268
can you really say that collections released when you were an infant (or maybe not even born yet) have any kind of cultural relevance to you? fashion is influenced by the times and you're just trying to validate your purchases of second hand clothes because they were cheap

there is plenty of relevant stuff being put out right now that you could actually be a part of instead of romanticizing past work that you had nothing to do with

i dont think you really understand what fashion is about if you have to quantify it in terms of retail prices

[Anonymous No.9105311]

>>9105278
>various

l m a o

keep livin vicariously

i work the industry nobody cares for raf

in fact i could count the people who even know pre jil era raf work on my right hand

dont over step urself when u know nothing outside of ur suburban culdesac

[Anonymous No.9105312]

Anyone care to comment on some up and coming names or new designers(outside the usuals) . It's always really interesting to see all the innovation and passion in the rising stars.
>pic related is one of my favs(Craig Green) but is discussed quite often

[leisuresuitlamy !!YwrAiR6xRxQ No.9105314]

hey pigfuck what do u think about my outfits?

[Anonymous No.9105316]

>>9105298
most people shit on pigfuck because he looks down on others for not being as invested in designer fashion as he supposedly is. he posts with an air of contempt and pretension that is generally reserved for the most autistic of hobbyists. the argument against him is that he doesn't deserve to have such a big ego because he's just another fashion nerd that wishes he could live the lifestyle his favorite designers sell on the runway.

that being said, i don't even like /fa/ as a fashion community, but carry on.

[Anonymous No.9105321]

>>9105303
>fashion is influenced by the times

Uh,
No it's not. I mean yeah sure some of it is. But sooo much of it is influenced by past designers

Acne, for example, just released a jacket that is basically a reissue of an OG helmut.

Are you really this stupid? Or just naive and stubborn?

Your opinion means nothing because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

[Anonymous No.9105323]

>>9105316
>posts with an air of contempt and pretension

[Anonymous No.9105324]

>>9105298
>90% of the people on this board aren't 'of the life' but why does that mean that they can't take an interest in fashion, whether it's just to improve their looks or to learn about the art of fashion?

Didn't pigfuck specifically single out and exclude anyone who just wanted to "improve their looks"? It's ironic considering his position in this, no? He dresses in sweat pants and flip flops for his post office runs in his $3,000 used car his dad gave him to ship out 20 year old garments he never wore and purchased only to resell. Do you believe that kind of person is who Lang or Yamamoto or Miyake or literally any designer from the past 30 years was imagining when they were inspired to complete their collections? I guess not. Maybe you do. I just feel that you can't exclude one group of people (who just want to look better) like Pigfuck does, while he himself is not a positive or constructive element in the process.

[Anonymous No.9105328]

>>9105321
>No it's not. I mean yeah sure some of it is.
k. didnt read further

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>>9105311
>i work the industry
i bet :)
>>9105302
i like CCP purely for the design and concepts. i dont buy into the 'anti-fashion' 'anti-consumer' shtick of the likes of CCP and former c diem family tree, it reeks of contrivance.

the deisgns of ccp however, and his pihlosophy toward the work(not the 'anti fashion' marketing gimmick) are avant-garde in the truest sense.

i have no interest in uc womenswear, despite it historically being juns focus/strength, so i wont comment on that. the menswear i feel has seen a definite decline, compare ss06 to ss14 for example. one is an actual conceptual, artistic vision realised in menswear, the other may as well be an acne lookbook release.

[Anonymous No.9105333]

>>9105303
>can you really say that collections released when you were an infant (or maybe not even born yet) have any kind of cultural relevance to you?
yes, of course you can
Similar to film or literature or music

[Anonymous No.9105343]

>>9105333
fashion =/= literature or music
I'll let you figure out why.

[Anonymous No.9105344]

>>9105302
I will give my relatively uniformed knowledge of this. It comes down mostly to a few things. What I have noticed most has been process and tailoring. Poell took meticulous care and tons of experimentation when he was making pieces. You read about the things he did to some of his leathers or how he distressed them and it kind of blows your mind. Tailoring was also incredibly important he used very slim anatomical tailoring which at the time was pretty rare. I think his overall love for experimentation and going against the believed right way to do something is what truly made him so impressive. For example there is this parka by him on grailed right now or maybe I'm thinking of a different one. Either way this thing cod be worn like 30 different ways because of different attachments and how it was cut but also what was a strange about it was it was made of leather...that was perforated. Things like that are just awesome to me and really make him stand out even amin people he seems to always be commonly grouped with Carpe, LUC, MA+.


IF I HORRIBLY FUCKED THIS UP PLEASE TEL ME ITS LATE AS FUCK BUT I ALSO AM NOT TO WELL VERSED WHEN IT COMES TO THIS.

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>>9105321
the ppl u r responding to are being deliberately disengenuous because over my time on the board i have managed to, with intent, make people who are susceptible, very angry and hurt.

u shouldnt respond in earnest.

>>9105324
this post for example, is someone who is attempting to disguise sour grapes and jealousy with a legitimate argument. u just have to learn to discern when ppl are hurt and when they're legitimately curious.

[leisuresuitlamy !!YwrAiR6xRxQ No.9105357]

>>9105314

bump

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>>9105357
really cool and sick

[Anonymous No.9105362]

>>9105271
putting a name on won't make my words any less true, pigfuck
this is my apartment, my computer and i'm not accusing you of anything

i am telling you that you are not of the life you are trying to project. you could trade in second hand GI Joes or garden gnomes and it wouldn't make a difference. im not saying that posting waywt fits or carrying on some alter ego on a fashion board is any better, but you could at very least be helpful and constructive with distributing what you know about the brands you are interested in, and you could actually wear and appreciate the garments instead of just treating them like stock.

you're a style-less merchant and nothing more. there is nothing interesting or inspiring about you. i think that's the big divide you have between this "patrician" persona you like to imagine you maintain here and the reality of your life

[Anonymous No.9105365]

>>9105006
that's a nice jacket and shirt
also crossdressing is a valid /fa/ topic i didn't intend the thread to turn into hormone discussion

[Anonymous No.9105366]

>>9105324
>>9105324
Dude why do you even care so much?
Seriously though?

Obviously the designers wouldn't have someone like pigfuck in mind but I think they would appreciate the passion he puts into it, the time he spends learning about the clothes? (Even if it is just to sell, you have to study the market, and it seems to me that it's something be probably enjoys)

I don't think any of those designers really envisioned people instagramming their clothes for likes either, or aspired for their designs to be worn by dumb celebrities who are famous for being famous

[Anonymous No.9105371]

>>9105366
yes because it was 20 years ago. now? definitely.

you're ignorant to believe otherwise

[Anonymous No.9105375]

could i ask for vaporwave to be explained to me? isn't it a music genere?
i like its concept but it doesn't really suit clothes so much, but works well for internet images etc

[Anonymous No.9105376]

>>9105366
Remember that post about designers being inspired from the current times? Yea, read that again, kid. This is the exact gap that you can't seem to overcome between a designer's intent and direction 20 years ago and now. You are looking at everything too closely; take a step back and look at the industry and the elements within it (yes even the consumers) and it will be more clear for you.

[Anonymous No.9105381]

>>9105344
Oh forgot to comment on Undercover. I do still like Undercover and will no matter how much Jun messes with it(please don't make me eat my words), but obviously it makes me a little sad to see his work become more and more mediocre. Fw14 was disgusting and tacky shit like he was trying to suddenly relive his glory days but only in the most literal and easy ways. Ss15 was a slight improvement it brought some interesting silhouettes but really nothing to out of the ordinary from his usual repitoire. The prints have been reaching a new level of bad I don't know how you can go from making such beautiful pieces like the future days parka to that disgusting raincoat with that massive print all over it. This is only menswear by the way. Overall I think its a rut that he needs to get out of and start experimenting again but if he doesn't want to obviously this one angry guy half a world away will not change anything. As for women's so much of his focus goes into it obviously because the shows well there shows I don't think men's fw14 or ss15 were even on runways, women's were. That should tell you something and it's reflected in the shows. They are still fucking awesome and give the classic Undercover feel everyone loves. I have only seen a very slight decrease in shows from so called "golden days" but I mean not many people can top shows like guru guru and but beautiful II. Women's ss15 and fw14 were fucking fantastic I'll admit I'm such a sucker for good styling and the styling was fantastic. That's not to say the pieces weren't good I still get chills over that cold regal almost dead look all the models had in fw14.

[Anonymous No.9105384]

>>9105362
You're one to talk about being constructive, you dumb shitposter. Go away.

[Anonymous No.9105387]

>>9105381
>Fw14 was disgusting and tacky shit like he was trying to suddenly relive his glory days but only in the most literal and easy ways.
Such in-depth analysis and refined deconstructive technique. Did you major in fine arts for your undergraduate degree, friend?

[Anonymous No.9105388]

>>9105381
Meant ss14 was disgusting and tacky not fw14. I love Jesus and Mary Chain as much as everyone but I don't need a sweater to tell everyone.

[alrightalrightalright, here to(...) No.9105389]

>>9105365
>also crossdressing is a valid /fa/ topic
>>/lgbt/

>>9105362
lol i dont care, if i want to do something im going to do it, imagine being the sort of insufferable faggot that allows the non-existant perception of others to define their actions.

'oo i really like this but, like, would it be authentic? i mean this was released in 2002, were cotton sweaters that were made in 2002 really meant to be worn by me, in the year 2014, uhh the trials of seeking authenticity!'

>'uhh, i love the design of this jacket, but would /fa/ approve?'

yeh dude u r a total faggot, post ur face and/or something to allow me to hold u accountable for ur life, let me give it the authenticity check, dw i know u wont.

>but you could at very least be helpful and constructive with distributing what you know about the brands you are interested in, and you could actually wear and appreciate the garments instead of just treating them like stock.

(why am i writing this)
1. i do wear it, its all i wear

2. ive attempted to discuss fashion on this board but the moderator deletes all my posts off topic or not, check the archive(do u even know how?)

3. ur assumption that i dont appreciate the garments is just that, an assumption. the most valuable things i have purchased are the things i keep and wear, because of love for the pieces.

if it was just about $$ a) i wouldnt buy and sell raf and hl(buying hypebeast nike/adidas collab drops or brands like cp, supreme et al en masse would be much more profitable

b) i wouldve sold most of what i own.

assume less, or dont, but since u apparently care so much about me at least have the decentcy to be properly informed.

[Anonymous No.9105391]

>>9105387
obviously a business major

[Anonymous No.9105398]

>>9105387
Yeah your right it wasn't a an in depth criticism or even a good one mist likely but it was not intended to be. Instead of guessing as to what's my major you could contribute to the thread.

[Anonymous No.9105402]

>>9105371
>>9105376
But you can't go and say 'those designers didn't imagine someone like pigfuck wearing their clothes!!!'

And then go 'well NOW they wouldn't mind but back then they would'

Which are we talking about here? Yeah the industry has changed, of course I know that, it's all about the $$$ now as opposed to the artistic merit.... so which is it then? The designers would care or they wouldn't?

For reference, I was talking about fashion 20 years ago, since I assumed that's what we were talking about when that one guy referred to helmut.

[Anonymous No.9105404]

>>9105389
>lol i dont care
>proceeds to post literal 1000 word essay
caught some feelings? I actually enjoy your presence on this board. /fa/ is a dumping ground for posters from sufu, reddit and styleforum to post shit and shit on each other. this kind of thread has no place here, imo. stick with shitposting
also: you're kidding yourself if you think fashion and lifestyle are not intertwined. you'd say the same shit about some kid wearing a 3 piece bespoke suit to go to college

[Anonymous No.9105416]

>>9105402
Dude, no offense but your train of thought is scattered. You're either 17 years old or have been in a car accident. Work on the reading comprehension a bit at least. I won't bait you anymore, carry on with your critiques.

[potato No.9105417]

>>9105388
I thought cold blood and underman made great use of colors. His newer stuff isnt as subversive as his older work, but he still expresses some interesting concepts through his designs (avaketera life ss10 is just an average joe going about his day)

I have handled just a pair of pants and a jacket from ss06, but i feel like the quality had gone up too

[Anonymous No.9105430]

>>9105417
That show was pretty cool a little boring I especially liked the modeling. I can't really comment for new new undercover but I own an SS06 jacket and a fw09 hoody and both are awesome with specially done prints on both. Will have to handle more to make a definitive answer on the quality. I definitely like his newer shows but he has so many just absolute classics under his belt that it's hard for me to say I like the brand new stuff more.
>I just realized I'm thinking of a different season pic related is what I was talking about

[alrightalrightalright, here to(...) No.9105431]

>>9105404
>you'd say the same shit about some kid wearing a 3 piece bespoke suit to go to college

id say do wat u want, if the kid wants to wear a furry suit to college he can. does that mean eople arent allowed to mock him? no.

i am 6'3, white, attractive, the clothes look good on me and were sent down the runway on people that look like me.

all the rest is noise.

im going to do whatever i want. if i wanna do a big shit on my entire priceless archival wardrobe, set it on fire and post it on YT thats what ill do.

u can keep worrying about the actions of a namefag on 4chan who doesnt know u exist. if thats wat u want as well.

life is too short to allow ur actions, especially in relation to something as ultimately facile and frivalous as fashion, to be dictated by anything other than ur own desires.

its a hobby, they're just clothes, anyone who believes otherwise is a clinical retard as far as im concerned.

[Anonymous No.9105437]

>>9105431
>life is too short to allow ur actions, especially in relation to something as ultimately facile and frivalous as fashion, to be dictated by anything other than ur own desires.
this nigga got some profound shit goings on

[alrightalrightalright, here to(...) No.9105450]

w2c this hoodie lmao

for real ervell doesnt even stock it on his websotre

[alrightalrightalright, here to(...) No.9105452]

>>9105450

[Anonymous No.9105457]

>>9105437
>life is too short
spends 7 hours a day shitposting on 4chan
tee hee

[Anonymous No.9105469]

Cool well I'm gonna learn about fashion and see if I can fall into the company of beautiful rich people that share their coke with me. That sounds like the dream, anyways.

[potato No.9105471]

>>9105430
Ya that was the season i meant aw10 not ss10
I like the concept. Down to earth, simple. Dude even modeled it himself

[Anonymous No.9105489]

>>9105469
i'd see if you can get into those social circles first, then worry about the clothes
guess which one of those things is harder to do

[Anonymous No.9105491]

>>9105489

The...social circle one? That's the one, right?

[Anonymous No.9105494]

>>9105491
yes darling
i'd suggest go to posh clubs and start dealing. might make you some friends outside the burbs and net you some decent pocket money for cops

[alrightalrightalright, here to(...) No.9105495]

[alrightalrightalright, here to(...) No.9105498]

>>9105495

[alrightalrightalright, here to(...) No.9105505]

>>9105498

[Anonymous No.9105526]

>>9105034
sums it up pretty well.

[Anonymous No.9105529]

>>9105389
>he takes his hobbies very seriously
>on an uzbek stamp collector's newsletter

[Anonymous No.9105556]

>or perhaps you'd like to discuss how to be a savvy, intelligent, sophisticated consumer of high fashion. thats OK too.

Yes I would like to do that.
Where do I purchase designer clothing at affordable prices? Grailed is ok, but from what I gathered y!jp and rakuten are superior due to much lower prices and much bigger assortment.

Would anyone kindly explain me the purchase process from those sites?

[potato No.9105580]

>>9105556
After ordering from rakuten, the site places you into contact with the store you ordered from (kind and rinkan are both great).

From there you only keep in contact with the store and emails are in japanese and reasonably translated english. Pretty simple, you give them a few days to process and figure out shipping costs, they send you an invoice, you pay, they ship, thats it.

[alrightalrightalright, here to(...) No.9105581]

>>9105556
ebay, sufu market place, styleforum market, sz market, grailed, eg-consignment, guyinconsignment

yjp u need a proxy service

[Anonymous No.9105590]

So I need to know something simple, what's a good tshirt brand? I'm not really into /fa/ that much, just enjoy wearing skinny jeans, boots and a nice comfy tshirt, even on winter, what's a good brand, can probably go up to $40 for tshirt.

[Anonymous No.9105603]

>>9105110
>over rated and derivative
I mean I don't think anyone's claiming ervell is producing groundbreaking designs, it's just nice, wearable clothing, that slots nicely into the normcore 90s aesthetic going around

he makes nice clothes for normal guys, sometimes with a bit of a twist
i view him as similar to our legacy tbh

[Anonymous No.9105622]

>>9105140
What I like about Cav Empt are the those 90s-inspired, computer graphics, early 3D vibes. It feels nostalgic and futuristic at the same time. I appreciate streetwear with loud graphic designs if they're done in an interesting way. Not everything C.E. put out hits that spot for me, but some pieces do.

[potato No.9105623]

>>9105590
You can get silent by damir doma for that price
Soft, thin cotton
Great necklines that accentuate the collarbones
Some of them get really long, but there are shorter/oversized models

[Anonymous No.9105644]

>>9105623
Nice I like those shirts, but they are $70+, also do you know any good skinny jeans brands for around $80-100, hows the quality on cheap mondays? Someone sells them cheap on ebay but they come from Shanghai so I don't know...

Thanks by the way!

[Anonymous No.9105645]

>>9105343
Got it. Because that's your opinion

What do I win?

[Anonymous No.9105656]

>>9105645
i didnt ask for your favorite drink

[Anonymous No.9105658]

>>9105656
#REKT

[Anonymous No.9105698]

>>9104989
Quality thread opening
Judging from the response there's some serious chemo this board needs to swallow though

>>9104994
>>9105059
>mfw

I'm embarrassed to see the amount of anonymous posts in this thread intent on the character assassination of PF

Surely you should have learnt by now

[Anonymous No.9105712]

Why does Sruli Recht get so much hate on this board?

[Anonymous No.9105717]

>want to become tailor
>one apprenticeship in my area (not even tailoring)
>won't take me on because no art qualifications and no portfolio
>are apprenticeships in related fields in other areas
>probably won't take me for the same reason
>have to learn how to draw
>don't know where to start
>was feeling super up until I was told that they wouldn't take me on
>feel like shit
>gf is annoying me

>only thing I have a portfolio on is creative writing(I'm actually good at it)
>going from Fashion because I can't make it to Music/Poetry
>retarded start, retarded transition, retarded end most likely

>want to be a tailor
fuck this earth
time to learn how to draw

[Anonymous No.9105725]

>>9105717
Draw from life, people are a good start but just do anything. landscapes, vehicles, people, clothing, buildings, animals, etc... Just do whatever interests you, the rest will follow as you build mechanical skill and a portfolio of techniques, stylistic options, and a visual library. Draw from life and look up how to do a study. Find some peers who can give you constructive criticism and snoop around for free drawing resources on piratebay.

[Anonymous No.9105726]

>>9105717
Granted, art portfolio could mean anything unless they explicitly said "drawings", I suspect you're going in with some knowledge of sewing but it would be good to have a few pieces done in addition to whatever else you think you need.

[Anonymous No.9105731]

>>9105404
Sure, but you only catch a glimpse of lifestyle when you look at how somebody dresses. Sure, it will still bleed through, but that doesn't warrant needy and insecure "is this /fa/?" spam.

Lifestyle threads here serve as the exact opposite as such if only for the desperate need of validation. Most of /fa/ is the antithesis of /fa/ because of that.

[Anonymous No.9105735]

>>9105725
Thanks m8. Will do
>>9105726
The person I spoke to explicitly said drawings. I'm learning how to sew as she's also my teacher for a sewing class that I'm in at college right now. I'm still learning how to sew and haven't even made a full garment yet.

The other huge fuck up with all this is that I have American qualifications but am in England.

[Laserface !/VJxsUn3ao No.9105743]

>>9105712
I haven't seen much hate for him

Better furnishing and object designer than clothes tho

[Anonymous No.9105746]

>>9105712

He doesn't.

From what I've seen Sruli is very well appreciated here, yet poorly understood.

Part of the problem is the faggots that lurk here are constantly searching for a profound identity; something obscure enough for them to latch on to. The proverbial 'nxtlvl'.

Pigfuck dislikes Sruli for being a Jew, and his subsequent cakewalk to (relative) success.

Taking into account his entire body of work (v easily accessible for all you w2c spoonfed cucks) there's a definite 'Sruli' feel to it; this is a particular look that appeals to me and that's more than enough.
I don't subscribe to many of the typical SZ pretensions surrounding the exploration of the human condition via clothing, put very succinctly here >>9105431

ps get as mad as you like I own more Sruli than any other collection I've seen yet

>its a hobby, they're just clothes, anyone who believes otherwise is a clinical retard as far as im concerned.

[Anonymous No.9105750]

>>9105743

>Better furnishing and object designer than clothes tho

tbh I would have said the opposite.

[Anonymous No.9105767]

Can someone tell me what old /fa/ was like, and why it changed?

[Anonymous No.9105770]

>>9105767
>Can someone tell me what old /fa/ was like

Shit

>and why it changed?

Greater amount of SJW related content/subtext/faggots from the rising influence in the media, tumblr, reddit etc

[Anonymous No.9105779]

>>9105770
>Shit
It was better than it is now.

[Anonymous No.9105786]

>>9105779
Literally every board on this site if you ask "le old fags" is worse than it was. I mean it's fairly shit right now but look at this thread for example.

[Anonymous No.9105790]

>>9105743
Hahaha holy shit some Onani fag is actually trying to pretend he knows something. Holy shit good one dude I'm dying over here.
>Better furnishing and object designer than clothes tho
Yeah his penis sculpture and gun are much more impressive than his multiple lines of clothing. Also infinitely more impressive than his runway shows in Paris.

[Anonymous No.9105800]

Julius bros, there's some pretty decent stuff on rak right now, some awesome pants in sz 1.

[Anonymous No.9105811]

>>9105717
Teach yourself

[alrightalrightalright, here to(...) No.9105853]

>>9105770
less shit
fuccboi generals, w2c, all the other inane troglodyte shit was still par of the course but it was normally a little more balanced with tolerable fashion discussion.

2013 had void/user posting who was a wealth of knowledge, patient, and posted good content + combined with the SJW squad of tl, timber, poet there was legitimate fashion discussion.

plus anorak who would occasionally stop by and drop some legitimate knowledge.

despite how insufferable the sjw club were as people - and how little insight they actually provided - even their sophomoric simbling musings on designers and fashion was better than the out and out, oblivious, totally in earnest, shit that /fa/ produces now.

before 2013 was better, although even less 'high-fashion' related and more 'menswear' orientated. the names who posted however were funny, self aware and capable of some truely unique and worthwhile funposting(casemods, slater, sieg)

before that it was basically high school tier namefaggotry but even that was at least, to some extent, self aware/funny/original.

honourable mentions to ct as well.

2013 was like 30% good, 70% shit

now its 90% shit, 5% depressingly funny, 4% legitimate tumblr/sjw thought propaganda, 1% tolerable.

check the archive for a glimpse, although it only goes back so far.

>>/fa/

but thats only /fa/

4chan as a whole however, well, heh, its ogre folks. 2007-2011 was the peak.

at least we have baneposting, i guess.

[Anonymous No.9105866]

>>9105853
I miss case.
Tuning in to a day by day progression of his interactions with the dollar tree girl, or when he got a job setting up weddings or some shit and didn't have enough time to work on his car stereo. Even the way he and sieg got along.

It was a simpler time

[alrightalrightalright, here to(...) No.9105873]

>>9105853
btw moderators are by and large responsible for everyone good leaving besides the sjw squad who left cuz feelings were hurt.

[alrightalrightalright, here to(...) No.9105877]

>>9105866
he posts on reddit now iirc, has like 50k comment karma, hes loven it.

[Anonymous No.9105912]

>>9105877
Fuck me that stache is out of control

Maaaaate

[Anonymous No.9105914]

>>9105362
haha pigfuck the wog-merchant
if the shoe fits!

[Anonymous No.9105933]

>>9105914

Still at it mate?

[Anonymous No.9106054]

>>9105912
Moustaches have been and always will be the most ugly facial hair you can possibly grow.

[Anonymous No.9106075]

dries master race

[Anonymous No.9106140]

>>9106075
That is one of the worst looks you could pic to show your love for dries. Yeah he's fucking awesome but this is fucking lame and boring as hell.

[Anonymous No.9106243]

Did a nigga just try and say Ervell knits were similar to Schneider? SS knits are on a whole other level , his fucking god tier textiles and construction put them leagues ahead of most people.
Ervell and Schneider shouldn't be compared anyway as that other dude who totally isn't pf said already.
Anyway an important thing to remember about SS is that he's not about re-inventing the wheel. I remember him saying in an interview that if your textile is strong then you don't need trousers with a third leg which pretty much sums up what he's about. His clothes are for people that are done experimenting and just want stuff they know and love like a home cooked meal except in this case your Mum is a Michelin starred chef.
That's where the "comfy" aspect of his clothing comes from and why he's so revered.
>ps
I like Ervell

[Anonymous No.9106288]

>>9106243
Both take their textiles into great consideration when they make garments. Ervell obviously not to the extent that Schneider does but still a considerable amount of effort into sourcing his materials. Schneider really is pm
H pm the level of maybe LUC but otherwise he's doing completely his own thing. I do find it quite boring but your right it's for the person who loves the garment more than the actual innovation. Like I said earlier though they have incredibly different backgrounds and reasons for making clothing.

[TroalPost !!M/8ntLE+we3 No.9106447]

the latest issue of glint arrived like 2 or so months ago and they hid the package from me.

what cool mags and books are you guys subbed to ?

[Anonymous No.9106466]

>>9106288
every designer takes their textiles into great consideration; who doesnt?

work on meaningful analysis instead of repeating mindless platitudes please

[sieg heil !szTe0VDR1w No.9106480]

>>9106243
>Ervell and Schneider shouldn't be compared to others

i agree

i put it in the catagory of "boring normcore 90's looking shit that should not be purchased unless there was a massie sale"

i've passed on knits by both of those brands for under $50

[Anonymous No.9106510]

>>9106140
this. OP i'm beggining to think you don't know shit about fashion and you just googled designer shows and saved the first picture just to show your 'love for fashion'

[Anonymous No.9106543]

>>9106466
You know what I fucking meant you are just being a contrarian now. Of course every designer takes great care for what materials they source. Ervell takes that even further in my opinion. Still not as much as SS for the last God damn time but definitely more than many others.

[Anonymous No.9106553]

>>9106543
how so?

[Anonymous No.9106571]

>>9105001
w2c chainmail shirts

[Anonymous No.9106575]

Don't know about Schneider, but Ervell's textiles are shit. They're on par with contemporary Raf which I guess /fa/ fuccbois think is cream of the crop.

[Anonymous No.9106583]

>>9105746
pigcuck is happy merchant "grail" reseller extraordinaire. He's more "jew" than Sruli could ever be.

[Laserface !/VJxsUn3ao No.9106621]

>>9105790
Considering he no longer produces clothing. There's a reason to cancel products

[Anonymous No.9106723]

>>9105381

Undercoverism has been presented as a lookbook for quite some time now, 5+ years

[Anonymous No.9106759]

>>9105389
>>9105004
>>9105251
>>9105853
>>9105877

Let's all just take note of the fact that pigfuck constantly claims his posts are deleted by the janitor "by IP" and, for that reason, he could never samefag because we'd all be able to tell when his posts were deleted en masse.

Obviously, however, two of his posts have been deleted in this thread and the rest have been left up. If the janitor really did delete en masse by IP, then why would those wacky old posts still be up? Oh, wacky old Pigfuck and his lies!

Just a casual reminder that Pigfuck makes up 90% of the anonymous posts on this board. Engage in some critical thinking once and a while; before posting, ask yourself, "Is this just Pigfuck posting on anon?" Because the answer, statistically, is probably yes.

[Anonymous No.9106804]

>>9106723
Only men's

[Anonymous No.9106826]

>>9105105
whos potato
where r banana & tomato

[Anonymous No.9106840]

>>9106621
Or maybe the large production cost and the massive amount the materials cost. He also user many expensive during techniques and machines. Not to mention the other multiple businesses he owns. There is no way his non clothing pieces made the most money. Do you understand what you are saying?

[Anonymous No.9106849]

>>9106826
Seems to be a sufu crossposter that decided he needed to make a name for himself.

[Anonymous No.9106866]

>>9106826
>where are banana and tomato
kill ;-;

>>9106849
It's just some fuccboi trying to be like junior, only with worse - but thankfully less loquacious - opinions.
Unless it's justjunior who can't be fucked anymore.

[Anonymous No.9106870]

>>9106866
Nah Hani was the one riling up piggy earlier. At least I think.

[Anonymous No.9106879]

>>9106826
>where r banana & tomato
they were the same person.

he lived in calgary and was taken out by a school bus driver on a snowy road 2 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.9107141]

Bump I want this thread to live and prosper.

[Anonymous No.9107172]

>>9106447
Also would very much like to know this. And if anyone has copies of or is subscribed to them is Dust Magazine worth it they seem to have some really cool photos and I like the style in the magazine alot.

[Anonymous No.9107329]

>>9105175
What places stock cdg? I've noticed a lot have play and shirt but what about some of the others (like black)

[Anonymous No.9107358]

>>9105312
I really like Jan Jan Van Essche, I know somebody named Hanni was spamming threads about JJVE recently, and whenever I try to talk about him, people tell me to "go away hanni"

[Anonymous No.9107363]

>>9105750
Yeah. His clothes are really interesting and his objects are cool, but the clothing is better

[Anonymous No.9107364]

>>9107329
Dover street Market, which is owned by CdG

[Anonymous No.9107532]

dont let the only decent thread on /fa/ die

[Anonymous No.9107698]

>>9107532
I do too but it doesnt look like it right now. Maybe try and come up with a good discussion topic otherwise it will most likely just die.

[Anonymous No.9107711]

>>9106480
Agreed. SS has some decent stuff, but Ervell is boring crap.

[Anonymous No.9107714]

>>9105312
Is Craig green only stocked in other-store?

[Anonymous No.9107749]

>>9107714
I dont know tbh. The only time I have actually seen a piece of his worn outside of runways or professional shots ws here actually. It was a guy who goes by trouble on most other sites(he might be of more help). They were some fucking awesome shorts but im pretty sure he sold them. Almost positive he got them while in Japan though.

[Anonymous No.9107760]

>>9107711
I love both but Schneider really does nothing incredibly interesting or even different. Patty atleast experiments somewhat with his more sporty and boyish looks.

[Anonymous No.9107774]

>>9107358
JJVE is fucking awesome and yeah Hani/deux/Junior whatever you want to call him spammed Jan Jan here just like he did for Schneider. I think alot of people don't really like him because they think alot of his stuff looks very similar and its all black but this picture is perfect for that. I really would look to see more and more designers try to work red or orange reds into their palettes. Still trying to get over that oversized knit though, I haven't seen a picture of it that doesn't make me want it more an more.

[Anonymous No.9107809]

>>9107760
>Schneider really does nothing incredibly interesting or even different.
What's different to you? His clothes aren't catered towards people who need tech fabrics or unconventional cuts , they're aimed towards people that like subtle details and textures. He doesn't make clothes like CDG or CCP because he has an entirely different ideology and demographic retard.
His clothes are interesting just not to you the same way Lad Musician doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.
>>9106243
^ Sums it up fairly well

[Anonymous No.9107818]

>>9107809
I have acknowleged this point atleast 4-5 times now and every time its the same answer. I FIND HIS DESIGNS BORING AND WOULD NEVER GO OUT OF MY WAY TO BUY THEM BUUUT I FIND HIS PASSION FOR TEXTILES AND MAKING A QUALITY GARMENT INCREDIBLY ADMIRABLE.

Just like you said Lad doesnt appeal to you, SS doesn't appeal to me outside an appreciation for his work.

[alrightalrightalright, here to(...) No.9108035]

>>9106510
are u fucking stupid
do u assume every runway pic itt is posted by me u dumb fucking mongoloid?

[alrightalrightalright, here to(...) No.9108052]

>>9105767
less shit
fuccboi generals, w2c, all the other inane troglodyte shit was still par of the course but it was normally a little more balanced with tolerable fashion discussion.

2013 had void/user posting who was a wealth of knowledge, patient, and posted good content + combined with the SJW squad of tl, timber, poet there was legitimate fashion discussion.

plus anorak who would occasionally stop by and drop some legitimate knowledge.

despite how insufferable the sjw club were as people - and how little insight they actually provided - even their sophomoric simbling musings on designers and fashion was better than the out and out, oblivious, totally in earnest, shit that /fa/ produces now.

before 2013 was better, although even less 'high-fashion' related and more 'menswear' orientated. the names who posted however were funny, self aware and capable of some truely unique and worthwhile funposting(casemods, slater, sieg)

before that it was basically high school tier namefaggotry but even that was at least, to some extent, self aware/funny/original.

honourable mentions to ct as well.

2013 was like 30% good, 70% shit

now its 90% shit, 5% depressingly funny, 4% legitimate tumblr/sjw thought propaganda, 1% tolerable.

check the archive for a glimpse, although it only goes back so far.

>>>>/fa/

but thats only /fa/

4chan as a whole however, well, heh, its ogre folks. 2007-2011 was the peak.

at least we have baneposting, i guess.

[Anonymous No.9108103]

>>9108052
2013 isn't "old /fa/" lmfao
why do u keep saying sjw like its some sort of kool 4chan buzzword
none of those dorks were social justice warriors they were just trash who bought 5th hand rags of a chinese auction site
it hasnt changed in the slightest since 2011
fucking dweeb

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>>9108103
good post

[Anonymous No.9108151]

>>9108103
Come on. Now you are just quibbling over the most trivial shit. There is no need to prove you're a le oldfag. His post was fairly helpful, besides all the Sjw talk but you are just as proving his points when you make a post like this.
#stopfallingforpigfucksbait2014

[Anonymous No.9108229]

>>9108151
pigfucks bait? he is the one who constantly gets baited. you can set him with anything.
dude isn't white and goes on about niggers, kikes, chinks, what have you. doesn't have a fashionable lifestyle and isn't artistic or interesting in the slightest. just a factoid bleating autist creating white noise that no one reads on a dead board

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>>9108229
>yfw

[Anonymous No.9108327]

Why do brands like MA+,Lumen et Umbra, and Label Under Construction get hate?

[Anonymous No.9108346]

>>9108268
>insecure wog attention whoring

[Anonymous No.9108359]

>>9108327
I think it's mostly because people just see a pretty plain garment with a large price tag and assume it's shit. Or that they are derivative Avant Garde goth shit. When obviously they use incredible materials and artisanal production that can be matched by very few others.

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>>9108327
depends what hate ur referencing
i dont like them cause they're all pretty derivative, although LeU is a bit different to the other two.

u only need to go to into a SZ waywt to see how poorly luc fits on everyone, the few pieces ive handled (1 sweater, pair of pants) were really underwhelming.

their whole shtick just really pisses me off

[Anonymous No.9108372]

>>9104989
Bollocks

[WS No.9108373]

>>9108327
assuming people think their ideas are too derivative of others work. never noticed too much hate on them but then again I dont read discussions abt those brands.

i gotta say they're all too similar to eachother and we all know who came before them

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[Anonymous No.9108403]

>>9108374
>>9108372

[The Nose !!a7Six4EVOK+ No.9108434]

>>9108374
Fuck off you Canberra pleb. Go back to the bowls club with your vb.

[Anonymous No.9108455]

>>9108374
needs more dragon dilds

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dumping some
seance de travail
astronaut meets biker in helmut langs groundbreaking aw99 collection

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>>9108634

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>>9108640

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>>9108645

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>>9108650

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>>9108654

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>>9108658

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>>9108661
this parka up close

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>>9108662

[potato No.9108673]

>>9108662
What was menswear like in the 90s?
Did it all revolve around Helmut Lang?

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>>9108666

[Anonymous No.9108750]

>>9108678
can smell it from here
do you have to fumigate these pieces when you get them? most japs are chain smokers so i assume they stink like shit given their age

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>>9108673
menswear, and by and large fashion as a whole - at least in the eu-centric fashion world of the early 90's - was dominated by the likes of galliano, givenchy et al whose design ideology was fashion and expense = spectacle, showstopping haute-couture, gaudy, bombastic designs, furs etc. luxury = immediate recognition.

on a rudimentary level it was basically the perception that high-fashion must be easily and readily distinguishable from the common simplicity of normal plebwear

helmut lang was different, one of the pioneers of deconstruction and minimalism. he was a revolutionary on so many fronts, he subverted the notion that luxury = gaudy/showy with his minimalist brand of chic, using a combination of traditional and high-tec fabrics(which was groundbreaking at the time) he created immediately wearable sport and business wear that combined luxury with practicality.

even now, his designs remain inexorably contemporary and modern; its a testament to the man's talent when a piece from 1999 is effortlessly more 'now' than 95% of what contemporary designers are putting out. pic related.

helmut lang began to dominate the fashion landscape in the mid to late 90's, so much so that his decision to show in new york first instead of paris shifted the entire fashion calender, a shift that is still in effect today.

he was also a trailblazer outside the runway. he was the first designer to stream one of his fashion shows online, he advertised in national geographic, on taxi cabs, he had cologne, accessories, jeans, a flagship in most fashion capitals. the fashion world did - to an extent - orbit the enigma that was helmut lang.

thats just a brief synopsis though, almost a meta-evaluation, if u wanted to deconstruct it further and break it down to the actuen you would look at the combined contributions of the antwerp 6, particularly raf simons, along with helmut in modernising menswear.

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>>9108750
most things actually smell really good, idk why, i guess keep dryer-sheets or something in their wardrobes to keep it smelling fresh.

1 or 2 things have had a musty 'hasnt seen daylight in 10 years' smell.

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>>9108761
more 99

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>>9108784

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>>9108789

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>>9108
shipped this badboy offf today

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>>9108809

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>>9108832

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>>9108761
Thanks, great answer
Any thoughts on Ann D leaving her eponymous label?
Should i be stocking up on her pieces hoping they will appreciate?

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>>9108836

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>>9108849
its sad
thats fashion these days though, like everything in this world it seems to be on the decline. idk if ann will ever accuse the same reverence that helmut, raf and margiela archive does, but who's to say. you can never go wrong copping iconic/'grail' tier pieces on the cheap.

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>>9108849

its sad
thats fashion these days though, like everything in this world it seems to be on the decline. idk if ann will ever accrue the same reverence that helmut, raf and margiela archive does, but who's to say. you can never go wrong copping iconic/'grail' tier pieces on the cheap.

one of the greatest knits ever, 2001

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>>9108867
pic

[Anonymous No.9109122]

>>9105505
>>9105498
>>9105495
What are these from?

[Anonymous No.9109135]

>>9109122
nvm found it at the bottom of the last image.

[Anonymous No.9109195]

>>9105746
lmao "recht"

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