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Leanin edition

> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size >>17214995

>> No.17216213

Omega is the mother of all cope brands. Worst watch in existence. Boring manchild vibes.

>> No.17216214
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is Gasio a good brand?

>> No.17216217

>>17216214
not as good as BOSNIA but it'll do

>> No.17216219

>>17216217
>BOSNIA

qrd?

>> No.17216220

>>17216210
Bros did I fuck up by using Coconut Oil on my Leather Watch Strap? It looks a bit darker and smells a bit but I'm hoping the smell goes away. Definitely looks a lot better and less dry though.

>> No.17216221

>>17216220
throw it in trash at this point

>> No.17216225

>>17216219
>BOSNIA
Bosnia and Herzegovina (Bosna i Hercegovina / Бocнa и Хepцeгoвинa, pronounced [bôsna i xěrtseɡoʋina]),[a] abbreviated BiH or B&H,[b] sometimes called Bosnia–Herzegovina and often known informally as Bosnia, is a country at the crossroads of south and southeast Europe, located in the Balkans. The capital and largest city is Sarajevo. Bosnia and Herzegovina borders Serbia to the east, Montenegro to the southeast, and Croatia to the north and southwest. In the south it has a narrow coast on the Adriatic Sea within the Mediterranean, which is about 20 kilometres (12 miles) long and surrounds the town of Neum. Bosnia, which is the inland region of the country, has a moderate continental climate with hot summers and cold, snowy winters. In the central and eastern regions of the country, the geography is mountainous, in the northwest it is moderately hilly, and in the northeast it is predominantly flat. Herzegovina, which is the smaller, southern region of the country, has a Mediterranean climate and is mostly mountainous.

>> No.17216226

>>17216221
Wait what? why? It was a pretty expensive strap

>> No.17216231

>>17216225
where do Bosnia watches rate on the chart?

>> No.17216232

>>17216210
Here's a question/fa/ggots:
Why would I buy a watch when I have a perfectly working smartphone that can tell the time along with all the other stuff it can do?

>> No.17216236

>>17216232
Cause you want it as a fashion accessory? You don't want to bring out your phone to check the time in a professional environment? You appreciate the detail of it? I dunno man plenty of reasons but if you just want to not spend money on watches then just use your phone.

>> No.17216237

>>17216232
>why use a toilet when i can just shit myself in a diaper
idk

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>> No.17216241

>>17216236
>professional environment

bro we're on 4chan

>> No.17216243

>>17216232

It also spies on you. I wouldn't be caught dead with a smartphone. If you want to talk to me you have to find me and talk face to face.

>> No.17216247

>>17216243
>If you want to talk to me

why would I want to do that?

>> No.17216248

BUY A FUCKING ROLEX RIGHT NOW JUST BUY ONE PLEASE AND TALK ABOUT IT PLEASE NO OTHER BRAND THAT ISN'T ROLEX IS GOOD AT ALL YOU FUCKING FREAKS

>> No.17216250

>>17216247

>why would I want to do that?

To learn something from your obvious better.

>> No.17216251

>>17216250


>To learn somethin

Like what?

>> No.17216252

>>17216250
reddit spacing

>> No.17216253

>>17216241
That doesn't mean everyone is a neet.

>> No.17216254

>>17216236
Maybe you can ask the time. That way you make the other feel good about telling you the time. Don't waste money on watches.
>>17216237
You're irrational. Shitting myself is extremely impractical and unhygienic. You're simply being mean because you probably bought an expensive watch and you now try to justify your purchase.
>>17216243
Don't be schizophrenic. Nobody cares about you, no one is spying on you.

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>> No.17216257

>>17216254
>Nobody cares about you
whoa, rude

>> No.17216258

>>17216255
rolex rip off

>> No.17216260

>>17216254
>shitting myself is unhygienic
source?

>> No.17216261 [DELETED] 

>>17216253
a profession NEET?

>> No.17216267

>>17216253
a professional NEET?

>> No.17216270

>>17216214
I'd like them more if they didn't make every case out of plastic.

>> No.17216271

Thoughts on islander watches? On the lookout for skx013-likes and this one seems like the only watch out there that's 38mm.
https://longislandwatch.com/islander-38mm-automatic-dive-watch-isl-20/

>> No.17216272

>>17216271
rolex rip off again\

>> No.17216273

>>17216257
What? You think you're so extraordinary? Name one person that is extremely important to you. Because I think that you don't really care about others either. You only care about your looks. Your clothes, your accessories, yourself.

>> No.17216275

>>17216273
stfu you dont care about a rolexcuse you toor poor to own one amerifat

>> No.17216276

>>17216260
Source: babies.
We clean up babies like 5 times a day, otherwise their arses will rot and it will be a little itchy.

>> No.17216277

>>17216275
I'm not the one who spent over 10 Grand on a stupid bracelet thing called a Rolex, dum dum.

>> No.17216278

>>17216276
what are you? a baby?

>> No.17216282

>>17216277
it'll be worth twice that in 10 years

>> No.17216284

im an oldfag and have been here since the 2018 re-elections and rolex has forever been king

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>> No.17216286

>>17216276
>5 times a day

you're not supposed to feed them that much

>> No.17216288

>>17216210
good quality classy not so expensive watch for someone with a small wrist? 300$ max

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>>17216232
You're right. From an utilitarian point fo view, office dwellers don't need watches.
People who don't have an easy access to their phone do, though. Like construction workers, people doing outdoors activities, etc. For them a cheap Casio will do the job.
The only point of luxury watches is to flex on poor people or impress bitches. For that, Rolex will work 100% of the time because the only luxury brand that people know is Rolex.

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Should I buy this for $1000? I'm really digging it and I think it'll hold in value if I ever wanted to sell it in the future

>> No.17216310

>>17216288
Basedko or Casio

>> No.17216311
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>>17216258
No, It's obviously a Credor Eichi II cope.

>>17216288
Importing from Japan:
Casio Oceanus S100.
Entry-level Citizen Attesa.
Used Credor quartz.

Otherwise:
Tissot Gentleman quartz.
Hamilton khaki quartz.

>> No.17216313

>>17216307
Pilot Pioneer H76709530

>> No.17216318

>>17216311
damn,that Tissot is beautiful. It's either that or the Casio Oceanus. thanks anon. If you have more recs please post them. I can push the budget to 500$

>> No.17216324

>>17216288
>300$
>Not expensive
I can buy 30 pairs of shoes, or more than 40 shirts with that.
You can even buy a graphics card.

>> No.17216326

>>17216307
It doesn't look good

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>>17216318
You're welcome.
Honestly it's as good as I can think of for smaller diameters in this budget.
The bottom line is go for a good brand and quartz (too many compromises mechanicals in this price range, plus quartz is just better for actually using your watch), sub 40mm simple dial for this budget.

I like more complicated Oceanus and Attesa. You can probably find picrel used or a comparable Attesa in your $500 budget, and it will blow any other option in its price range: all titanium with hardening coating, stupid good antireflective coating, on-the-fly microadjust, a ton of complications, radio-controlled...
But they're bigger. I know I can live with it (as long as the dial is not empty), but it won't be as elegant.

>> No.17216353

>>17216306
>The only point of luxury watches is to flex on poor people or impress bitches. For that, Rolex will work 100% of the time because the only luxury brand that people know is Rolex.
Rolex owners at least get to think this is true when spending $10,000 on a watch, the reality is that no one cares about your watch because people (other than watch people) don’t go around looking at strangers’ wrists. If you’re aiming to snag a gold digger, it’s your lifestyle that matters to them because they want a rich lifestyle as well, the only way of flexing on poor people is to employ them and force them to use their skills to provide you with something to sell and get rich from while they’re just trying to survive.

Being some sadcase middle management boomer with enough for a Rolex but not enough for fast cars, mansions, holidays to places so exotic no English speaker knows how to pronounce them, is a tryhard and delusional and both gold diggers and your fellow employees will all laugh at you.

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sneed it or Chuck it?

>> No.17216362

>>17216284
old guard

>> No.17216363
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17216363

will i get sneeded on if i buy this

>> No.17216364

>>17216360
Like a brietling super ocean heritage but a more modern and angular. If you like it personally I say Sneed it. If you don't Chuck it. You are the only one who can decide.

>> No.17216367

>>17216363
Not by people with taste, looks very nice. (inb4 ROOOOOOLEX frenchman).

>> No.17216373

>2018
>Oldfag
Wow, I remember when this thread was on /g/ and aimed at the kind of poorfag that buys secondhand Thinkpads, Rolex was never discussed. It was a lot more fun with people posting their Vostok mods, vintage Seikos and that infographic showing how an F-91W is turned into a timer for a bomb

>> No.17216374

What are the non ESL peoples opinions on Alexander Shorokoff? I appreciate the redecoration of old Russian movements.

>> No.17216386
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17216386

What do I get if I love something like this but don't have a billion dollars?

>> No.17216391

>>17216386
Nothing, it will always be a cope and leave you wanting. Just look at watches that are in your price range and you’ll probably fall in love with at least one of them.

>> No.17216407

>>17216248
But I don't like Rolex. They have boring designs.

>> No.17216411

chazingtime is ghosting me...

>> No.17216431

>>17216411
clap back the $

>> No.17216453
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KISCVsUKqRA

>> No.17216458

>>17216453
based and Paganipilled

>> No.17216462
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>>17216453

>> No.17216466

>>17216462
He isn't actually doing anything wrong though, it's just some unfunny anon autistically posting it every time a video gets uploaded. Even IF the 20-40 posters on /wt/ did that, it wouldn't make enough of an impact to kill the channel and even if it did, that anon would just find someone else he'd find funny to spam.

The only way to stop it, is to stop giving the memefag attention which you cannot do because you're also autistic.

>> No.17216475

Hello, could I please get a watch recommendation.

Budget: around 500eur. 1000 max.
Movement: automatic
Style: dive, sporty, metal bracelet
Wrist size: 6.5 inch

Was thinking about Seiko Monster or Baby Turtle but I'm afraid it's going to be too big. Maybe Orient Mako..

Any suggestions, thank you!

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17216476

Cope if you must and you will.

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>> No.17216479

>>17216475
yeah any of those are kino

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>>17216386
Google Citizen Eco Drive Classic until you find something that you like and buy it.

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>>17216232
I got into watches a few years ago precisely because I own a smartphone.

The whole smartphone is designed to get and hold your attention, to waste your time so they can show you ads or collect personal data from you (again, to push you more ads). I want to use my phone as little as possible because of this, so I prefer to check the time from a watch.

>> No.17216493

>>17216466
>p-please stop posting this pic
Fuck off Jody, you colossal faggot. I told you I'll keep posting it.

>> No.17216494

>>17216353
I seethe but you are correct

>> No.17216496

>>17216491
Very beautiful presage, and good reasoning. You articulated my thought process on the matter as well. Smart watches are an extension of this, having notifications on your wrist funnels you back into the data collection pipeline.

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>>17216475
If you are able to double your budget (maybe not, it's just a suggestion) you could get a second hand Oris Aquis 39.5mm like picrel.
1.Better brand and less ordinary. 2. Less common watch also. 3. Better dimensions. 4. Better looking imho. 5. Better reputation. 6. 300m instead of only 100 or 200. 7. Better clasp. 8. Better designed overall. 9.etc...

>> No.17216506

>>17216124
>The lack of good places online to talk watches with people who actually care about the history and technology of them rather than just caring about trying to flex with brands pretty much killed my interest.
>
>I used to be a regular in these threads years ago, now I only stop by occasionally to see if it's still as bad as I remember, and it always is.
Same.

>> No.17216512

>>17216475
Any of those Seikos would be good Anon, just buy one you like the look of
>>17216505
Don't listen to this goober and don't spend more than 500euro

>> No.17216519

>>17216476
My cope is that there should only three sections, consumer and enthusiast are fine but there's really no need to separate the luxury section into four tiers of luxury.
Frankly, the enthusiast section already contains the best quality for watches that is possible, when you're getting into the luxury section then the cost is no longer about the watches being superior pieces of mechanics, it's all snake-oil shit like >Heritage
Which most of the consumer and enthusiast brands have
>Craftsmanship
Plenty of those luxury watches are not entirely handmade and there's a nasty rumour that they can contain Chinese made components despite their cost
>Accuracy
You can regulate basically any movement into COSC levels of accuracy or close to it
>Materials
Stainless Steel and Acrylic are already objectively the best materials to make watches from, even ceramic and sapphire can makes its way on to AliExpress sub-$100 watches so that's no excuse for a stainless steel watch costing thousands. Precious metals? GTFO.

You don't buy watches from ANY of the luxury tiers because they're the best watches you can buy and that's just the cost, you buy them because they're jewellery and you wanted to spend that kind of money on a trinket you wear to feel good. All four tiers of luxury are targeting that market and therefore they're all functionally the same, the only difference is the branding, the Quasi-Luxury and Entry-Level Luxury brands aren't the only tryhard brands there, they're basically all tryhard brands because they market themselves on basically anything BUT the watch itself to justify the cost and to pretend they're not jewellery with the "luxury tool watch" brands or that they're inheritance gifts with the brands more accepting of their jewellery status.

So three sections, discussions should be just around the enthusiast level, laughing should be done towards the consumer and luxury levels.

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17216527

he owns two watches
what are they?

>> No.17216528

>>17216493
It's probably you posting both.

>> No.17216533

>>17216527
Low class retard wouldn't own two watches lmfao.

And those people don't exist today anyway, if they did they'd just wear a Fossil or whatever their retarded hick wife bought them when they went on their yearly vacation to the nearest town and visited the holy mall.

In the old days, just a random "what's the time pops" watch like Timex or Longines or whatever.

>> No.17216536

>>17216527
Something from Sears and they'd be the same watch because average people don't think
>I need to buy a watch for work, one for dressing up, one for dressing down, a digital one for SHTF situations, another with a chronograph for timing boiled eggs and incase my speedometer stops working, then one day when I finally become rich after doing all the god-fearing work the Republics said would make me rich I can sell them all and buy a Patek.
That's literally just us, the freaks. You will never be salt of the Earth regardless of how rustic your watch is.

>> No.17216560

>>17216533
>>17216536
alright, spoil sports:
CHOOSE two watches for him

>> No.17216568

>>17216560
Do they have to be modern or from the time depicted in the photos or what?

>> No.17216570

>>17216527
>Work day
Pagani Design Rolex Submariner Homage
>Church day
San Martin Rolex Submariner Homage

>> No.17216572

>>17216568
modern - just fit with the general aesthetic of

>> No.17216575

>>17216570
Based

>> No.17216577

>>17216572
The obvious choice is then
>Work: G-Shock or Vostok
>Church: Tissot Gentleman

>> No.17216578

>>17216577
great picks
that's almost exactly what my dad wears

>> No.17216581

>>17216577
Addendum: Specifically the Quartz gentleman, it just makes sense for an occasional wear that you can just pick up and put on without necessarily needing to set it every time when you’re trying haul your ass and the kids to church early in the morning.

Mechanical movements have no place in the god-fearing man’s world, winding and setting watches is an excuse for procrastination when the Lord took pity on us and gave us quartz

>> No.17216595

>>17216220
It's not the idea oil to use but it probably won't hurt anything
Any oil will darken leather thats normal
Next time use a leather product like bick 4 or obenaufs LP

>> No.17216598

>>17216271
Islanders seem to be a sloid choice when it comes to skx likes.
Would recommend

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>>17216386
Chink shitters of course
https://aliexpress.com/item/2255800054768875.html

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Looks half decent for a cheap chink grand seiko knockoff
https://aliexpress.com/item/3256804374908345.html

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copped this

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The san martin ranger is already out
Too bad it uses an nh35

>> No.17216615

>>17216605
>RMALTI
I know these things aren’t primarily produced for poorfag western enthusiasts, but Christ why do they invent such terrible names to write in Latin letters?

>> No.17216618

>>17216615
Its pretty shit eh?
That one us Amazon drop shipper spam name tier. Too bad if it was even half acceptable i might consider picking one up but no way if its just random letter spam

>> No.17216620

>>17216609
whats wrong with nh35?

>> No.17216622

What's a good strap to have with the black Casio Duro? I got it but I feel there are better bracelets out there.

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>>17216527

>every day

>> No.17216644

>>17216618
The entire Chinese watch making industry just needs to come together to chip in for a western marketer to come up with names for them. There’s some out there that aren’t too bad like Cronos which while a little generic sounding does actually sound like a real word, San Martin is also a bit meh because why is a watch named after some random town but really it’s the logo that is cringe while Pagani Design is clearly a rip off of Porsche Design just with the Porsche replaced with a different sports car manufacturer but again is something you can at least say. But oh dear god some of these names
>Phylida
>Bagelsport
>Tactical Frog
>Rdunae

The best and most sensible name IMO is Seestern, easy to say and means starfish in German which makes sense for their lineup of divers and sports watches and they have a simple text logo in a relatively tasteful font

>> No.17216650

>>17216629
Nazis don’t go to church m8, Hitler was supposed to be the highest authority

>> No.17216651

>>17216512
>don't spend more than 500euro
>I'm poor so you should be too
Keking
Anon Oris suggestion i actually quite nice.

>> No.17216670

>>17216373
There were a few posters with some valuable watches in these threads back then, but since we all actually cared about their history and technical rather than flexing potential, it wasn't an obstacle to good discussion. These threads were great back on /g/ before the permanent permatrolling started.

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>>17216651
>Oris
>Nice
literally selling watches in bulk wrapped together in a box made of trash, truly a premium experience

>> No.17216672

cope?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255697098717?hash=item3b88bc17dd:g:RGsAAOSwbtBjCjxo&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAABAJ9ItBZYOXBWuXp4BX3YBMZVHYLQCVAyKbGEumCIa2xMhr79aiKb%2BYcdAzAc1foXRmlMjzwzLf4UuaJ843o83aVOr0eIgK3c9vRcQMGNhl57y6BTNLehBXPPAEqmV4MvszsrUTR%2Btw6kJUn15M7XDeoVrIPEOxCMfZy6FFhTP4RE6C0okcXNKB%2FGTeOIsC1vXE3CI9MLTxWEAW8mga25JUt14N05x8LPlxs1TCUfEHNf%2BmL5W7OkFuD1ds0hcOV1ozpqc1189KxfFfYZ2eVd%2FKk9HEGpkTRrtJh5GcREyy0uOnZq3PiVEF9bhwfziBI%2BKxAxLrtxsh%2BrWqtaJ1mVC8Q%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7bp2cbcYA

>> No.17216675

>>17216672
>cuckidee
get any other Swatch

>> No.17216676

>>17216671
>In comparition, Seiko boxes are made of cardboard.
Indeed, Oris offer a premium experience.

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>>17216651
>Yes, anon, get the microplastic watch
fuck off with your HRT, jew

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>>17216672
>Hodonkey

>> No.17216683

>>17216676
>B-B-B-But SEIKOOOOOO
My friend, you have an entire company living —Rent free— in that head of yours

>> No.17216686

>>17216680
>Being this retarded
The Oris anon suggested has nothing to do with the microplastic edition, it's just a better watch than the seikos. Sorry if that ruffles your feathers.
But also,
>how much cucked do you have to be to get angry for a limited edition?
Keking more and more.

>> No.17216690

>>17216683
Read the thread, mongoloid.

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>>17216285

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17216713

which one

>> No.17216717

>>17216713
Green, but I am biased as it is my favorite color.

>> No.17216735

>>17216713
Gold Tank

>> No.17216743

>>17216694
nice Cartier

>> No.17216744
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17216744

Ordered this Seiko 5 as first watch, what am in for?
Is it too childish for everyday use for a 28y old?

>> No.17216746

>>17216744
I love one piece, its a seiko 5, they are meant to be fun. Enjoy it.

>> No.17216749

>>17216744
It's ok but not worth ~180 bucks extra compared to a regular Seiko 5.

>> No.17216751

>>17216744
Why does it looks like it has a skin disease?

>> No.17216752

>>17216672
>sistem 51
Disposable movement that cant be repaired or adjusted.
It's an automatic watch that you will need to throw away in 3-5 years when it becomes wildly inacurate from the plastic parts deforming and there is no way to service it.
I actually don't mind swatch but you should only get quartz swatches

>> No.17216756

>>17216670
It probably just blended in with the rest of the discussion, I think there’s more boomers now because they’ve been introduced to Pepe memes and also oldfags from early 4chan are likely all middle aged now and likewise poisoned by the consoom to feel good about soul crushing corporate work meme that Gen Xers have. The result is they forget watches are supposed to be fun, they’re now about how the career they’ve wasted their life on was more meaningful because they’ve got a Rolex, you’ve wasted your life on a career that only net you an Omega lmao

Depressing, currently 28, I wonder how long I have left and how many promotions before I also make expensive, bitter and contemptuous purchases to distract from the dying light of youth inside as well?

>> No.17216758

>>17216686
>They make trash watches
>on purpose
baffling that you can defend that.
It's the same shit as the MoonSwatch, the moment a company pulls some bush league shit like that, their reputation should fucking tank
Of course, "watch enthusiast" are just masochistic retards and keep giving opportuny after opportunity to shit like that.

And I'm gonan give it to you, Seiko should be held at the same standard. It's fucked up it has as many fanboys as they do considering you can't buy a watch without praying that everything is aligned properly.

>> No.17216761

>>17216751
My partner thought the same when I showed her. Part of the reason I didn't pick it up, triggered the tyro phobia. Its based on a characters Hat design in One Piece, meant to be a Dalmatian pattern I believe.

>> No.17216763

>>17216758

You aren't a fan of the recycled materials from the ocean being used in a watch? Why not?

I know it's a gimmick, but the dial doesn't look so bad, it's quite unique

>> No.17216765

>>17216761
When you referr to your girlfriend as your partner everyone assumes she pegs you, or that you are gay and are referring to a boyfriend
You should reconsider using that term unless signalling your allegiance to moden Twitter lefy social trends is important to you.

>> No.17216766

>>17216756
If you don't have a Rolex by 30 might as well kill yourself loser.

>> No.17216767

>>17216763
Because it's actual trash that they got from a trash heap and charged their customers for it.
Imagine if fucking Swatch released a wuartz shitter made from "recycled materials from the ocian" twice the price of their regular catalog. It would get rightfully and relentlessly mocked.

>> No.17216768

>>17216765
I dunnno man I just do, why do you have to be so bitter about a linguistic choice? Please consider getting a better outlook.

>> No.17216773

>Be me
>Two days ago
>Just sold some stocks
>Want to treat myself
>Walk into my local Rolex AD
>Gonna get that Daytona, boyos
>Some french hobo is screaming at the manager
>The fucker can't articulate a full sentence
>Still asks for "yuor cheapest RAWLECKS, mister"
>The whole store reeks of shit and piss
>Walk out
I'll try again next week, I guess

>> No.17216774

>>17216763
>you aren't a fan of spending $2,000 on a watch made out of literal trash? Why not?
Also guess what, the source of this ocean trash isn't actually the ocean. There is this whole scam brand set up to sell "ocean trash" plastic to manufacturers so they can virtue signal about being green except if you read the find print they don't actually take trash out of the ocean, instead its "ocean bound plastic" which means it's just regular old plastic recyclables that they claim they diverted from being dumped in the ocean.

>> No.17216775

>>17216766
Okay, and what if I didn’t mine Crypto to purchase CP back in 2011?

>> No.17216776

>>17216773
Based

>> No.17216779

>>17216768
I just wanted to let you know what impression you are giving people. Clearly you want to do so and it's your choice.

>> No.17216783

1) It isn't twice the price
2) Each dial is unique, even if it is recycled plastic, that is kinda neat.. don't cry
3) What are you even talking about being mocked.. are you okay?
4) Take the extra two seconds to spell shit correctly, you fuckin retard

>> No.17216788

>>17216783
>It isn't twice the price
Doesn't matter
>Each dial is unique, even if it is recycled plastic, that is kinda neat.. don't cry
Uniquely trashy, maybe
>What are you even talking about being mocked.. are you okay?
The trash watch is for bullying. BULLYING.
>Take the extra two seconds to spell shit correc-
No

>> No.17216789

>>17216765
Nah girlfriend sounds infantile, like you go to the rollerdisco with her to sit awkwardly and silently with her waiting for your parents to pick you both up at 8pm

>> No.17216795

>>17216779
Honestly, girlfriend just seems more juvenile than referring to her as my partner. I could give less of a shit about lefty twitter signalling or anything like that. Have a good one.

>> No.17216796

>>17216763
NTA but I find this very interesting. I have made fun of Oris in the past for these releases but mainly because they were selling a bundle of three “recycled” watches for like $9k. It’s funny because they have been pushing their prices way up over the last few years while also engaging in business practices I’d expect from Timex.

The actual ocean plastic thing is just transparent corporate virtue signaling. Look how progressive and conscientious we are, we’re helping save the planet by using ocean plastic and selling it to you at a 1000% mark-up. Lots of other brands have started doing similar things. Breitling, Panerai, Chopard etc have all released “recycled” watches. It’s obviously a complete scam, but one that gullible NPCs fall for. There’s a whole industry around selling “recycled” material to these brands. It will only become more common in the next few years.

>> No.17216799

>>17216795
It is juvenile, the only grown men who use the word “girlfriend” are middle aged divorcees that’s snagged themselves a teenaged golddigger who has made them feel “young again” and deludedly thinks she loves his leathery ballsack rather than his leathery wallet

>> No.17216803

>>17216775
What? Get a job bum what are you even talking about lmfao.

>> No.17216804

>>17216795
>>Honestly, girlfriend just seems more juvenile than referring to her as my partner
Then marry her retard?

>> No.17216805
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>>17216796

I totally agree that it's virtue signaling. I think I can put that campaign to the side and if I wanted an Oris Aquis, I would choose whatever config I liked, regardless of the virtue signaling

I had an Aquis but sold it, wearing a diff dive watch most of the time that's nicer

The only Oris I'd consider is the Oris Big Crown ProPilot X Calibre 115.. but it's way overpriced IMO.. it's like $7500 USD.. still cool though and has a 10 day power reserve

>> No.17216808

>>17216789
>>17216795
T. guys whos wife will keep her last name

>> No.17216809

>>17216804
Thats the plan, not going to rush it based on some egging on from some rando on 4chan though.

>> No.17216810

>>17216809
Then she's your fiancee retard?

>> No.17216812

>>17216761
I was told it gives off a childish and immature look that doesn't suit me. But personally, I didn't want such a serious watch because I find this watch has nice, playful character due to the spots and great white dial which makes it really interesting and standout.
But, those opinions really made me insecure wheter it was the right choice or not.

>> No.17216814

>>17216812
The ONLY persons opinion of a watch you wear that matters is yours. No need to be insecure about it.

>> No.17216815

>>17216808
She took my name and says she prefers it to her old last name

>> No.17216820

>>17216810
Full on damage control now, who the fuck cares how anon calls his woman?

>> No.17216821

>>17216810
At least he gets some pussy, stay mad incel.

>> No.17216822

>>17216808
My partner has stated on multiple occasions that she wants to take my last name.

>> No.17216824

>>17216803
Post Rolex, your august payslip and a birth certificate

>> No.17216827

>>17216810
Haven't proposed yet bud, but I am planning to at some point in the future, that's how relationships work.

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>*THUD* *THUD* *THUD* Anon I need to borrow the Rolex, I got a date tonight. Anon?

>> No.17216830

>>17216824
Imagine having to work lmfao.

>> No.17216831

>>17216820
bro we get it you want to hold his hand

>> No.17216832

>>17216829
>Date!? Chad you sound like such a dweeb holy shit, everyone thinks you’re lame for saying date!

>> No.17216837

>>17216830
So your parents bought it for you

>> No.17216838

>>17216829
Chad, I-I'm sorry, I only have quasi0luxury tier watches and not high end rolexes.

>> No.17216842

>>17216519
>You can regulate basically any movement into COSC levels of accuracy or close to it
This is incorrect. COSC standards are primarily about precision rather than accuracy. Specifically, COSC standards are primarily looking for how large the *differences* in rate are in different positions, at different temperatures, at different states of wind (i.e. the spread between the timing rates). It requires a lot more skilled labour to get a mechanical movement to be precise across multiple positions, temperatures and states of wind than it does to get it's average rate in daily wear to be pretty good.

>Plenty of those luxury watches are not entirely handmade
You're likely not aware of this, but mass producing highly precise mechanical machines with detailed, precise machine finishing on all the parts and then assembling them is actually a pretty capital and labour intensive process.

Even looking at Rolex, which tries to automate as much of its manufacturing processes as possible still has to spend a lot of money on R&D and manufacturing to develop and make their own equipment to automate manufacturing processes for which no off the shelf solution exists, and then they still hand assemble their movements and watches and hand adjust everything, which still requires a surprising amount of skilled labour.

That said, most luxury watch brands are charging a brand premium over and above the objective level of manufacturing quality on offer, it's just that the premium isn't as large as you probably think it is. Basically, yes a Submariner is overpriced but a Tudor BB58 is actually pretty reasonably priced for what you get and how hard it is to make.

>> No.17216848

>>17216842
Holy shit, actual good points and discussion on the manufacture of watches in /wt/ instead of some Frenchman screaming and shitting about rolex! I'm fucking dreaming!

>> No.17216849

>>17216453
im a wristlet and every affordable diver is too big for me. feelsbad

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>>17216848
Forgot the pic showing an easy way to see the difference between precision and accuracy. Basically precision is much harder to achieve in mechanical movements than accuracy is.

>>17216842
Haven't checked in on these threads in a while and decided to actually try and contribute some actual watch discussion while I'm here checking to see if these threads are still as shit as they've been since we got exiled from /g/.

>> No.17216858

I know it’s taboo but where can I buy a good Rolex replicas? I found perfectrolex and they seem legit…anyone got experience in good quality replicas?

>> No.17216865

>>17216756
The difference back then was that the people who owned those valuable watches didn't buy them primarily for flexing potential, they bought them because they actually cared about their history and craftsmanship. There was a guy with a Habring, a guy who collected vintage watches historically important to chronometry (which included stuff like a vintage Girard Perregaux observatory chronometer), hell even Lawyeranon was genuinely into horology and had good discussions about it even though he has a watch collection worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

There would be long debates about technical topics between people who actually knew what they were talking about, rather than the threads being 90% shitposts about flexing.

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>>17216858
Don't buy fakes

>> No.17216873

>>17216773
>SACREBLEAU I'm just trying to get ROLEEX here, the chart has it at the top!
>Not even a spare crumb of a watch like a vintage oyster for little old me

>> No.17216874
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17216874

>>17216475
Seijo Sharp edge series?

>> No.17216880

>>17216858
Find rep forums and look at the approved vendor lists, also look at reddit /reptime
When ordering a demand a large number of detailed photos of the specific watch they will be sending you and examine them carefully.
Also the fake rolex clone movements are mediocre, ideally you want to find a sller that will offer replica rolexes with swiss 2824 / sw200 movements, not asian 2824 clones unless its the pt5000 specifically.
I don't know how easy watches like that are to find but thwy are out there.

>> No.17216881

>>17216475
Seiko baby turtle will fit you absolutely fine.
I think the king turtles will too.

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>>17216475
If you don't mind buying an aftermarket bracelet, get a Seiko srph77. The extremely short lugs on its baby tuna design make it very good for small wrists. It wears much smaller than a Monster, for example.

Just make sure to only buy Seiko dive watches in person so you can inspect and ensure the dial, chapter ring and bezel alignment is correct. Seiko's dive watches often have issues with that.

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>>17216865
>Lawyeranon was genuinely into horology and had good discussions about it even though he has a watch collection worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I think he is still into it.
In fact, he just helped me choose my next watch, which will be a Citizen analog perpetual, picrel. The problem is that it's harder to have a good conversation when each time he posts half the faggots in here start sperging out about fat italian bullshit, and some other charttard tries to larp as him.
If I were him, I would have stopped coming here a long time ago.

>> No.17216901

>>17216900
Could've just went to the mall and said give me the ugliest gaudiest cheapest shit possible. Even Invicta looks better than this holy fuck.

>> No.17216903

>>17216254
>extremely impractical and unhygienic
If you cared about practicality and hygiene you wouldn't be using a smartphone as a watch.

>> No.17216904

Give it me straight, I got a white dial Skydweller and a black Seadweller as my Rolexes, how bad will people want to murder me as per Jamal and watch enthusiasts?

>> No.17216906

See? This is what I mean.
>>17216901
is the perfect example of a retard that shits up the thread and only cares about subjective looks and flexing.

>> No.17216908

>>17216270
>make every case out of plastic
They don't.

>> No.17216909

>>17216900
I didn't realize he still posts in these threads. I only stop by these threads occasionally to check if the retardation level has dropped (it never does) so I don't know who still posts from back in the day.

Huh, are there even any other analogue perpetual calendar options out there in that Citizen's price range? I'm drawing a complete blank.

>> No.17216911

>>17216479
>>17216505
>>17216512
>>17216874
>>17216893
>>17216881
thank you all

>> No.17216912

>>17216271
I try to avoid buying from jews.

>> No.17216917

>>17216363
After the market was flooded by blue watches they all look so dated now.

>> No.17216919

>>17216271
massively overpriced for what they offer
mark is a fucking grifter, too, I wouldn't trust him

>> No.17216920

>>17216744
I like it but the issue with such highly stylized watches is that you'll never find a decent replacement or alternative for the strap. This only looks good with this strap and would be boring with a simpl black one, for example.

>> No.17216921

>>17216909
He's in at least four threads per week. He shows up, posts one of the twelve pics he has, waits until someone calls his watch ugly, then accuses them of seething. It's a brilliant troll job, really, because the next 50+ posts will be guys whiteknighting him shit-flinging with the guys who don't like him (or just don't like whiteknights).

>> No.17216922
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17216922

so i'm getting a 250 €/month raise through job hopping and yesterday the consensus (1/1) was to keep the money for the coming winter's electricity bill. y/n?

>> No.17216928

>>17216922
Buy Rolex, sell after Winter for profit.

>> No.17216930

>>17216922
Accutrons are awesome, but stay away unless you're prepared to invest the time and money into learning about them, investigating the one you intend to purchase, and finding a reputable specialist who can service it. Not many watchmakers do work on tuning forks these days. Can make it a real pain if there's a problem.

>> No.17216931

>>17216906
>only cares about subjective looks and flexing.
There's literally nothing else except looks and flexing to watches, you're not rich enough to buy a ten million dollar Breguet pocket watch with a Hebrew calendar dude.

>> No.17216935

>>17216931
>He hasn't moded his Vostok Amphibia to work as an hebrew perpetual calendar
Do engineeringlets really?

>> No.17216936
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17216936

What watch would Rick wear if Rick he wore watches?

What about Yamamoto?

Aesthetically I think Rick would go for a 15400 RO, Yohji maybe a steel Rollie (I will ignore the atrocious colab he did with Hublot)

>> No.17216939

>>17216570
spat out my tea

>> No.17216940

>>17216917
i couldn’t get rid of the itching feeling that blue would grow old fast so i decided not to buy it even though it was a limited thing. also grand seiko’s branding just doesn’t feel robust enough relative to other brands. now i’m not sure what to buy, i don’t just want to buy a rolex and be a basic bitch rich guy with more money than taste but i’m not sure what else there is with this sort of aesthetic and branding on the market.

>> No.17216941

>>17216931
I would say this is pretty accurate honestly. A mechanical watch is dated tech and outside of using it for diving and possibly aviation, I don’t see it as anymore than jewelry. A car is a tool at its core but some people like to flex with it and some don’t while a watch is a fashion accessory. Lots of fellers are pretending that they wouldn’t jump at the opportunity to trade in their seiko for high luxury watch. People with very expensive watches are hated on but the root of the hatred stems from jealousy.

Some guys really do like watches that no one else likes of course, and don’t want any attention but it’s more rare to be genuine about it. For me, just be honest with yourself and others, it’s the best way.

>> No.17216943

>>17216941
>People with very expensive watches are hated on but the root of the hatred stems from jealousy.
Unironically this.

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>>17216940
Get a rhodium dial yacht master.
Or just get a different grand seiko, they have these other limited edition manual winders that have the same proportions and case shape as their classic 60s designs.
https://www.grand-seiko.com/us-en/collections/sbgw289g

>> No.17216950

>>17216210
whats with the bosnian flag on that watch? I don't get it.

>> No.17216952

>>17216922
Save up for an actual decent watch.

>> No.17216957

>>17216909
>>17216921
>are there even any other analogue perpetual calendar options out there in that Citizen's price range?
That's precisely my point. I was complaining about I'd never being able to buy an analog perpetual calendar because I'm not rich and even if I were I would never buy a watch above 3-5k and he suggested the Citizen. He could have mocked me or flex his pertual, but he was the only one who actually gave a solution.
And I think there aren't any more options other than the Citizen. It's a discontinued reference, but I might have found one I like and is in general good condition. Probably going to pull the trigger soon.

>> No.17216962
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>>17216940
For the price you could get an entry level jlc
https://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/us-en/watches/master-control/master-control-date-stainless-steel-q4018420
Thry also have a blue dial version that's a little less loud than the seiko
https://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/us-en/watches/master-control/master-control-date-stainless-steel-q4018480
You could also get a polaris
https://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/us-en/watches/polaris/polaris-automatic-stainless-steel-q9008170
https://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/us-en/watches/polaris/polaris-date-stainless-steel-q906863j
But outside of all the shitposting here rolex makes nice watches and in real life around regular people they don't have all the crazy baggage they have among watch collectors.

>> No.17216966

>>17216946
>yacht master
nah, not my thing. i’m looking for something sleeker and mildly dress-y but still relatively versatile like a datejust or the GS i posted earlier.
maybe i’ll look into other GS models, i can’t deny that their finish and silhouette is incredibly appealing to me. spring drive in person is really cool with how perfectly smooth it travels but it also does sacrifice on ideological purism with the partial use of electronics and all so it’s kind of a double edged sword. i’ll have to see how i feel about the brand with a bit more time to think about it.

>> No.17216972

>>17216527
A rope watch because he's a coping trade cuck that is busy 6+ days a week. He knows he'll never have enough time to raise his kid and it will need to go to public schools to be brainwashed to be yet another 40+ hour a week wage.
You can see it in his eyes in the bottom panel. He knows he's coping. "Well maybe I'll go to heaven and I hope my parents are there and everything will be alright in the end lord, amen".

>> No.17216979

>>17216946
> wears warch on his right hand like a retard

>> No.17216989

>>17216962
i looked into JLC earlier but i wasn’t sure where to start familiarizing myself with their offerings, thanks for the links.

rolexes are undeniably nice, retarded waitlists aside. my parents really really want me to get one which isn’t surprising since they own a couple. there’s a part of me though that wants to be more than just another normalfaggot with a rawlecks, i compulsively want to own some connoisseur special snowflake shit that’s just mildly contrarian enough to imply taste. probably because i’m poisoned from playing with high end audio for too long.

>> No.17216993

>>17216842
Okay, well Quartz blows any mechanical out of the water with precision and COSC for quartz is a lot tighter and even then HAQs are much less expensive, the point remains that you don't buy a luxury watch for the accuracy/precision.

>Mass production can be expensive
I didn't say it couldn't be, the point is that mass automated production doesn't live up to the idea that you're buying a luxury watch for craftsmanship.

>Rolex spends a lot of money on R&D figuring out how to make said automation and mass production easier
So does Ford, who also requires some manual labour fitting the interior of their cars.

>BB58 is more reasonably priced
Maybe, but Tudor is hated as a merely "entry-level" luxury, but again you can get something as accurate as a Rolex or a Tudor with COSC at even the consumer level and definitely at the enthusiast level, that will be made from the same materials with probably similar levels of automation and manual labour in Switzerland but for half the cost of a Tudor.

Also Rolex and Tudor primarily are luxury tool watch brands and isn't that a weird paradox? How can a tool be a luxury item? What use is a tool watch that cost $10,000 and sheds over a grand any time it gets a scratch. It's silly and soulless.

>> No.17217002
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IWC

>> No.17217013
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>>17216989
Reverso

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>>17216989
>i compulsively want to own some connoisseur special snowflake shit that’s just mildly contrarian enough to imply taste. probably because i’m poisoned from playing with high end audio for too long
Look into piaget if you want to get a full dress ass watch
Lightly use altiplanos are pretry affordable on chrono 24
Get one of the ultra thin credor dress watches
https://www.credor.com/lineup/detail/?no=GBAQ977
Or get a nice older Girard Perregaux Rattrapante chronograph
https://www.chrono24.com/girardperregaux/chronograph-rattrapante-18k-yellow-gold-38mm-like-new-9012--id23709228.htm

>> No.17217030

>>17216347
STOP TELLING THEM RETARD

>> No.17217035

>>17216609
They need to be using the VH31 in no-date watches already.
Mogs all this low end mechanical bullshit, tired of watches that fail to keep good time, and soikos 1ms beat error shitters.

>> No.17217036

>>17216900
Buy whatever you like BUT that thing is seriously hard to look at. Terrible proportions, way to cluttered & probably oversized for what it is trying to be. What’s your budget, I’m sure this can’t be the best option out there

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>>17216694
Based waveceptor chad

>> No.17217043

>>17217030
why? fuck you

>> No.17217048

>>17217043
You don't own an anus, you're not allowed to inform these fuckwits about them

>> No.17217056

>>17216993
>the point remains that you don't buy a luxury watch for the accuracy/precision
Let's leave aside for the moment that you are correct that most luxury watch buyers primarily care about status flexing and not about horology.

There are still people out there who very much do care about the accuracy and precision of mechanical movements because of the much greater amount of effort and complexity that goes into achieving that result than into quartz movements. Personally I find it fascinating and amazing that a pile of springs and gears can be made to keep time with 99.99%+ accuracy if you throw enough effort, equipment and skilled labour at it.

Also, the much greater effort and expense of making high quality mechanical movements also can serve to discourage excessively cheaping out on the rest of the watch. One of the problems with quartz movements is that its so easy and cheap to make decent ones that it encourages a race to the bottom of cheaping out all aspects of the watch. It's why the market for HAQs is so niche.

>So does Ford, who also requires some manual labour fitting the interior of their cars.
Rolex is mass producing machines at much tighter tolerances at a much smaller scale requiring much more precise machining, finishing, assembly and adjustment.

>you can get something as accurate as a Rolex or a Tudor with COSC at even the consumer level and definitely at the enthusiast level, that will be made from the same materials with probably similar levels of automation and manual labour in Switzerland but for half the cost of a Tudor.
Not really, in Tudor's case. Tudor's in house movements have free sprung balance wheels and no one else in the industry is offering in-house free sprung balance movements at a substantially cheaper price point than Tudor. All the cheaper options are all using ebauche movements with regulated balances, which are much cheaper to make.

Basically, you have a point but you're leaning into it a bit too hard.

>> No.17217060

>>17216946
I can't get over how everything on the watch looks so nice but the center of the watch pinion looks like an open can of beans.

>> No.17217065

>>17217013
rectangular watches don't do anything for me, and also i have big hands so anything smaller than a 41mm looks undersized on me.

>>17217015
the altiplano origins are really nice, the ultimates are fuck you busy and almost nauseating to look at. there are a metric shit ton of credors so i will have to do some digging when i have the time, but they seem to be pointing in the right direction. as for the girard, chronographs might not be my thing. haven't seen one that i like very much yet.

>> No.17217070

>>17216957
I did a little digging and apparently Tissot makes a quartz perpetual calendar, but it doesn't have a year display. Otherwise every other quartz perpetual calendar I'm aware of it older and even more aesthetically challenging than that Citizen.

>> No.17217077

>>17216957
>That's precisely my point. I was complaining about I'd never being able to buy an analog perpetual calendar because I'm not rich and even if I were I would never buy a watch above 3-5k and he suggested the Citizen. He could have mocked me or flex his pertual, but he was the only one who actually gave a solution.
Edifice with a perpetual calendar is like $150 lmfao retard.

>> No.17217087

>>17217036
It's 39 mm and I like it.

>>17217077
Does it shows the month, date and leap year information?

>> No.17217095

>>17217077
>Edifice
don't try to peddle that trash to the newbies

>> No.17217096

>>17216814
>The ONLY persons opinion of a watch you wear that matters is yours. No need to be insecure about it.
Watches are worn to show off, what planet do you live on? A watch must impress, otherwise it's useless.

>> No.17217099

>>17217096
>just admit that you have no self-love, bro

>> No.17217103

>>17217095
Dude said he was poor and wanted the cheapest thing. Now he's paying 10 times more for a Citizen that's exactly the same quality or worse lmfao.

>> No.17217107

>>17217103
my man, a casio might be ten times cheaper, but it's also a hundred times worse than any citizen out there

>> No.17217109

>>17217065
>there are a metric shit ton of credors so i will have to do some digging
Its worth taking a look, i think most of them are ugly but there are a few pretty sweet models

>> No.17217111

>>17217103
>10 times more
The Citizen is 180 usd, just 30 dollars more expesive than that ugly Edifice.

>> No.17217120

>>17217103
If he's poor, he shouldn't be wearing a watch. Cheap watches are only a liability and overtly signal you're dealing with a pleb.

>> No.17217123

>>17217120
rich people shouldn't wear watches, you dumbass. poors need to know the time so they can start the shift at the factory in time.

>> No.17217127

>>17217123
Rich people wear watches for fashion. I don't even have the time set correctly on mine.

>> No.17217131

>>17217127
>>17217123
>>17217120
I hate you all.

>> No.17217134

>>17217127
>I don't even have the time set correctly on mine.
Philistine.

>> No.17217136

>>17217131
The guy you are quoting ia laughing his ass off theat all 3 post numbers have (you) next to them

>> No.17217141

>>17217127
I took out the movement from my watch and filled it with enriched uranium.

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>>17217141
Anon-sama, I.... I KNEEL

>> No.17217154

>>17217002
what's up with chinese aliexpress brands and their weird names?
I'm guessing IWC sounds cool aas hell in chinese lol

>> No.17217159

>>17217056
>Basically, you have a point but you're leaning into it a bit too hard.
That's fine, I'm not going to shit on luxury watches in general too hard because they're still going to be made and people are still going to buy them for the purpose of flexing with some for the interesting mechanics, but the original chart where there was four different sections for luxury brands was redundant, all luxury watches serve the same purpose.

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>> No.17217182

>>17217159
But anon, if we don't keep the narrative of semi-luxury, entry luxury, luxury and high-end luxury how would we keep people from just buying one watch and not keep trying to "upgrade"? mh? do you want all swiss children to starve?

>> No.17217185

>>17217107
You wish. Casio beats Citizen at every price point.

>> No.17217191

So what's the history and "heritage" over longines anyway?

>> No.17217193
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17217193

The latest get, not my first Vostok but my first Amphibia, it's pretty cool that they're still built exactly like the tool watches of the 60s. The bi-directional bezel bothered me now even the cheapest shitters on AliExpress had unidirectional bezels until I found out that Submariners and Seamasters had bi-directional bezels in the 60s as well and it's authentic for a dive watch of the period.

>> No.17217197

>>17217159
Personally, I'd separate high end mass produced watches from haute horlogerie watches, as the two segments have huge fundamental differences.

>> No.17217202

Just slapped on some Bois Imperial and my seamaster, going clubbing.

>> No.17217203

>>17217193
Amphibias are so fucking based, bros.

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>>17217202
>Just slapped on some Bois Imperial and my seamaster, going clubbing.

>> No.17217206

>>17217197
That's fair, two "everyman" sections and two luxury watch sections is more sensible than 4 tiers of mass produced but expensive watches. So the sections will be
>Consumer
>Enthusiast
>Flex Fodder
>Haute Horlogerie

>> No.17217207

>>17217131
We hate you too. Go put on your shitizen and stand in awe of your collection of El cheapos while you lust after gawdy sub luxury brands like Omega which all ultra high end watch lovers despise.

>> No.17217209

>>17217202
>seashitter
Coping hard because you couldn't afford a submariner.

>> No.17217210

>>17217209
Insult my wealth? I don't care!
Insult my watch? IT'S BEAT DOWN TIME.

>> No.17217211

>>17217207
>Omega which all ultra high end watch lovers despise.
Why? I hear this repeated often but usually with the justification of it not being Rolex.

>> No.17217212

>>17217210
Reddit moment.

>> No.17217215

>>17217211
They don't despise it. It's just a meme from chartfag. Actual richfags like Kevin O leary jerk off Omeeguh all day

>> No.17217217
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17217217

Wear what you like.
Unless it's a MoonSwatch then you're cringe

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>>17217103
>$30 is 10x more
>discounting the fact that jewelry stores will give you 25 percent off most citizens

>> No.17217220

>>17217217
>People keep buying Omega fakes
>Lets just build our own fakes!
Based mentality.

>> No.17217222

>>17217206
A few years ago I would have argued to stick a category in between Enthusiast and 'Flex Fodder' for mass market pleb catching brands that target normies who don't know anything about watches with wildly overpriced cheap ebauche powered shitters, but with the directions that the industry has been going in the last few years, that's less of an easily identifiable tier than it used to be. I mean, for heavens sake, even the damn Swatch Group is making a bunch of appealingly designed and vaguely reasonably priced watches in what used to be the uncanny valley between $750 and $3,500. It's bizarre.

>> No.17217223

>>17217218
That pic is correct. It's what chartfag sees every time he says he's luxury. Despite living in a country where he only makes $28k a year before his 40 percent eurotard taxes cuts in.

>> No.17217225

>>17217222
Normies don't flex watches. They flex sneakers.

>> No.17217228

shut the fuck up please and just talk about rolex
right now
rolex is all that fucking matter i'ts the only brand people vcafre about right now fucking talk about rooolex rooolex you fucking freaks im tired of you and your stupid "esl" saying asses atalk about rooolex buy one poors you aren't luxury

>> No.17217229

>>17217222
>I mean, for heavens sake, even the damn Swatch Group is making a bunch of appealingly designed and vaguely reasonably priced watches in what used to be the uncanny valley between $750 and $3,500.
Post some?

>> No.17217230

>>17217211
Brand whores don't like Omega (besides the Speedmaster) because it doesn't have enough flexing potential for its price point.

Watch nerds hate modern Omega because it was created by killing one of the greatest historical mass market watchmakers to have ever existed and then plastering its design IP over generic conglomerate produced shitters for 20 years until the Swatch Group realized they'd almost destroyed Omega as a brand and hasitly began trying to turn them back into a respectable watchmaker. I'll never forgive the Swatch Group for killing the historical Omega and Lemania.

>> No.17217234

PLEASE
just STFU AND REFER TO THE CHART AND TALK ABOUT ROLEX RIGHT NOW
THE FUICKGING CHART LOOK AT IT
IM TIRED OF THIS FUCKIGN THREAD IGNORING ALL THE EFFORT I DO
I PUT MY SELF OUT HERE PUTTING THE CHART IN THE THREAD

>> No.17217237

>>17217229
Opinions may differ, but I think watches like the Tissot PRX and Longines Spirit 37mm are miles and miles away from the kind of trash the Swatch Group brands used to put out up until the last few years. They've begun to actually try and appeal to watch enthusiasts rather than focusing exclusively on normies who only hear about watches through adds and get talked into something at their local mall boutique.

Conversely, Seiko's entry level and mid range offerings have mostly become vastly overpriced shit, after Seiko spending years and years as the enthusiast's darling and the purveyor of the best values in the industry. It's been wild watching the proverbial worm turn.

>> No.17217240

>>17217228
let's talk about rolex, then
they make sport watches in steel bracelets. they are kinda ugly and have nerdy names. the yatchmaster is the best one.

>> No.17217243

>>17217240
>they are ugly
>nerdy names
fuck off omega shill

>> No.17217246

>>17217230
Were they all that bad? I quite like the look of the pre-bond Seamaster 200.

>> No.17217247

The Rolex Explorer is so fucking ugly. Why did they choose that font?

>> No.17217249

>>17217243
>wants to talk about rolex
>talks about omega instead
crazy frenchie

>> No.17217251

>>17217249
I didn't tell you to bash ROLEX I told you to refer to the chart then discuss ROLEX. You started shitting on it despite being above what you wear on the chart.

>> No.17217253

>>17217211
Because copemega is for people who don't have money but want the illusion of status. They have high time preference then they blow their money on whatever they consider "fancy" (because others and marketing told them so) the moment they are able to. If they were capable of saving beyond that threshold a submariner is easily within reach but they can't wait another year or two so they blow whatever little money they have on a piece of shit. Same goes for people who want a fast car. There are MUCH better deals for price to performance once you break a certain threshold but because they only have $30k and enough credit to get a 15% APR loan, they buy something like a low end mustang or camero instead of just saving for another 1-3 years for something in the $60k range like a corvette or cayman. It boils down to IQ and omega and new cope vehicles are a sign of a very low IQ.

>> No.17217256

>>17217251
I turned the chart up and now it says Rolex is shit, SHIT.

>> No.17217260

>>17217225
What if I buy both?

>> No.17217261

>>17217253
>he doesn't have a chauffer
>im totally like, LUXURY guys.
Lol.

>> No.17217262

>>17217253
What if you just prefer the look of the Seamaster?

>> No.17217263
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>UWAAAAH ROLEX RELEASED A SMALLER VERSION OF THE BATMAN
>UWAAAAH BUT IT'S BIGGER THAN THE BATWOMAN
>UWAAAAAH WE COULD CALL IT THE BATPERSON
>UWAAAAAH :OOOO
>UWAAAAAH :OOOO
why are they like this?

>> No.17217264

>>17217262
Sorry, you're not allowed to like Omega because he said so.

>> No.17217265

>>17217262
The anon you're replying to is mentally ill. He doesn't like any watch. He just likes larping status on 4chan after watching clickbait by rico and "the richest" about watches.

>> No.17217274

>>17216476
>luxury
>ralph lauren

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>>17217263
>DOOOD I finally got THE CALL
>for the HULK
>heck I even considered a pepsi, asked for a pepsi and they gave me one! ($1.22 added to the receipt with applicable tax)
>next i'll get the batgirl@

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>>17217274
*mogs you*

>> No.17217284

>>17216908
Most

>> No.17217285

>>17217253
>low end mustang or camero instead of just saving for another 1-3 years for something in the $60k range like a corvette or cayman
Really not the same intended audience for these.

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>>17217274
It mugs Rolex. It should be at high luxury.

>> No.17217287

>>17217251
>REEEEEEEEEE ONLY TALK ABOUT ROLEX GOOD NO BAD REEEEEEE JUST KEKSUCKING ALOWEDEDED REEEEEEE

>> No.17217290

>>17217246
The Swatch Group was formed by combining the assets of ASUAG (ETA movements, Hamilton, Rado, Longines, Eterna, Certina etc) with the assets of SSIH (Omega, Lemania, Tissot). Swatch then shit down all the movement design and watch manufacturing capabilities of Omega, Lemania, and Tissot and instead switched to having ASUAG assets make all the watches and movements for every brand they owned, just using different designs and logos for the different brand names. That pre-bond Seamaster Professional had nothing to do with the Omega that existed before, and the movement was just an off the shelf ETA 2892 Top Grade. Also the external finishing on Omega's from that era was literally no better than Tissots because they were all getting made in the same manufacturing chain.

In that transition, Omega went from being rightly considered the best mass market watchmaker in the world (better than Rolex) in the pre-quartz era, to almost falling completely out of the luxury watch market entirely and being seen as a comparable mall watch brand to Longines. Eventually, in the 2010s Swatch began to try and fix this mess by turning Omega back into a separate watchmaker from the rest of the conglomerate with their own exclusive co-axial movements with free sprung balances and eventually upgrading the external finishing to actually be noticeably better than a Tissot.

I remember, years and years ago, handling a 2500 era Aqua Terra up close and being absolutely *appalled* at how bad the external finishing was. It was literally and unironically worse than a $600 Seiko Brightz at the time. Nowadays an 8500 era Aqua Terra is miles better than that.

>> No.17217292

>>17217251
>le chart
go back to honkidee or wherever you came from

>> No.17217295

>>17217292
I've been here longer than you. I've been posting charts on 4chan since 2019.

>> No.17217296

>>17217295
What a fucking autist-braind damaged-fenchie

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>I've been here longer than you. I've been posting charts on 4chan since 2019.

>> No.17217299
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The amount of
>W-wow good for you!
>I'm so glad this sub is getting... your types posting here
>You must be the franchise owner, that's a business..I guess
posts this image got on r/Rolex was great, you could sense the heart dropping of every poster to see their special boy watch on the wrist of someone making sandwiches.

>> No.17217300

>>17217295
>posted thousand of charts
>never got a rolex
many such cases
sad

>> No.17217302

>>17217299
based

>> No.17217303

>>17217299
Link?

>> No.17217305

>>17217299
>a fast food worker gets his dick wet thanks to his ROLEX everyday
>chartanon can't even get his foot on the door, let alone a verbal confirmation
KWAB (kek what a bitch)

>> No.17217307

>>17217303
https://www.reddit.com/r/rolex/comments/rw3jlq/another_day_another_subway_sandwich/

>> No.17217314

>>17217307
Hilarious to imagine a Subway franchise owner coming in with his Rolex and Gucci shoes to make half a sandwich, stop halfway through to take a picture and post it on Reddit. What the fuck is wrong with people

>> No.17217317

>>17216650

You’re 100% wrong, but I admire your conviction to your completely incorrect recount of historical fact.

https://inference-review.com/letter/hitlers-christianity

>> No.17217320

>>17217314
Probably made the sandwich for himself lmao

>> No.17217321

>>17217314
This is a Subway TikTok zoomer who goes viral on their for making subway sandwich PoVs.

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>>17217321
>This is a Subway TikTok zoomer who goes viral on their for making subway sandwich PoVs.
I hate this planet

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>>17217321
He's as cringe as you would expect.

>> No.17217328

Excited to get my Longines in a month.
I would buy it now but I want to see it in person and I don't have an authorized dealer or any shop that carries it near me in a 100 miles radius.

>> No.17217333

>>17217321
A what?

>> No.17217334

>>17217333
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vUzOMFGobQ

>> No.17217360

new
>>17217358
>>17217358
>>17217358
>>17217358
>>17217358

>> No.17217762

>>17216353
I've been wearing a Submariner daily for about 6 years and it catches plenty of people's attention outside of watchfags. I find it funny because it's not really a big deal. Agree with your thoughts on flexing on poor people tho senpai
>t. drives a camry cuz cheap fuck

>> No.17217825

>>17216232
you wouldn't.
if you have to ask or think you need to be convinced: you have no aesthetic sense and most likely derive no pleasure from material possessions. you also most likely have no appreciation for art and music and you probably experience very little pleasure in your life.
you are in an enviable position in this world anon. the world would probably be a much better place if more people just settled for the basics and life. cheers to you fellow human

>> No.17217843

>>17217056
dang bro. ANy advice for someone trying to get into watches for a hobby?

>> No.17218333

>>17216225
how can a area make a watch?