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Skincare General

Everything related to skincare routines, products, acne, and grooming goes in here.

Wiki:
Skin care basics:http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Skin-care_Basics
Acne treatment:http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Acne_Treatment

Skinacea Links:
Retinoids:http://www.skinacea.com/retinoids/retinoids.html
Sunscreen:http://www.skinacea.com/sunscreen/sunscreen.html
Ridding dark eye circles:http://www.skinacea.com/how-to/get-rid-of-dark-circles.html

/fa/ skincare FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/PArDyf2G

Contents:
- Basic routine, skincare guide, and products tips
- How to pop pimples, remove blackheads and whiteheads
- Why you shouldn't use ordinary soap on your face
- How to improve your skin tone through diet
- Studies on how diary and sugars create acne
- How your skin is affected by sleep, sun, skincare ingredients

Last thread: >>11742973

Cheers!

>> No.11771187

So I used to think I was oily/ combo, however, I stopped using everything but sunscreen a week ago in order to stop the damage being caused by my cleanser (neutrogena). Today to double check ny skin type, I tried wetting my face and waiting 2 hours like reccomended on Paulas choice, and found myself dry? Is this normal?

>> No.11771196

Hello, anon who splerged on Paula's Choice from the last thread.
So far my bacne, of all things, has gotten like 60 % better. My face hasnt changed much but my face feels alot less tighter for one.
Mind you, ive been on this stuff for less than a week since getting it all, but damn. Its pretty great.

>> No.11771333

Went to a derm, started epiduo and monodycicline pills (or something like that) last monday. Atm my routine is just cleanse with cerave foaming cleanser and then moisture with cerave facial lotion in the am (+ sunscreen) and the same thing but with the epiduo in between in the pm. Anybody got any suggestions or should I just leave it as is? It's working pretty well so far.

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Bumping

>> No.11771941

>>11771196
Thats great! Keep it up anon, don't let your routine slip just because you skin is looking good. I have a horrible habit of being very diligent with my skin care for a couple of weeks, see results, get lazy, then my skin starts going bad agin. Rinse repeat.

>> No.11771945

>>11771187
Well what can often cause oily/combo skin in people is the over use of cleansers. You take away all the moisture from you skin, drying it out, leaving your sebum glands to composite by over producing oil.

>> No.11771985

>>11771196
the PC stuff works, but they've massively hiked up their prices during the last couple of years. They have something of a cult following online, and that crowd isn't that open to criticism of PC or trying other brands

there are many suggestions for more cost-effective products here

https://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/wiki/sca_routine#wiki_routine_steps

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Who /psoriasis/ here?

>have to apply ointment every day
>can't drink alcohol
>studying and depression cause more spots to appear
>my children will likely have that condition too


Should I just end it?

>> No.11772074

So when I put on moisturizer, should I wash it off after?
I don't really like going to school or class with all this oily shit on my face. Should I just use less? There aren't any directions on the container.

>> No.11772080

>>11772074
moisturizers are meant to be left on the face.

if it is too heavy/oily, you could
- try a lighter moisturizer
- use less of the moisturizer
- dilute it with some water

are you sure you need moisturizer btw?

>> No.11772086

>>11772080
>are you sure you need moisturizer btw?
I don't know diddly about any of this other than what I've accumulated lurking here and reading in the pastebin. I'm using those Stridex wipes to make the nasty dots on my nose shrink or go away and to make it not oily anymore, and apparently if you're using that you should also be using a moisturizer. Is that true?

>> No.11772102

>oily skin

can someone recommend me a good facial cleansing gel?

>> No.11772129

>>11772086
>Is that true?

well, stridex can make some peoples skin drier. if that's the case for you, it can then be good to use some moisturizer after. but try using just a small amount.

>> No.11772671

i've tried ceraves cleanser and moisturizer, as well as paula's choice 2% salicylic exfoliator, with no improvement. any suggestions what to try next? considering accutane

>> No.11772684

>>11772671
that's like jumping from rifles to nukes tho

how about some benzoyl peroxide?

>> No.11772713

>>11772684
idk ignorance probably
thanks though, ill look into that. any specific brands?

>> No.11772946

As per usual, I'm going to respond to the rest of the questions in the last thread.

>>11770757
Not a stupid question! Sometimes companies or products aren't clear on exactly what to do, which can be confusing for first-timers. You leave it on overnight or during the day, depending on when you applied it (you'll probably see best results from using it twice daily).

>>11771953
Discolouration, hyperpigmentation, redness, acne, large pores etc. are fixed with chemical exfoliation, typically. You want either an AHA or BHA (BHA is probably more beneficial for you) that deals with this issue consistently by being applied night and day.

>>11772330
You want a consistent skincare regime that incorporates calming ingredients like BHA, aloe vera and other anti-inflammatory, anti-irritant ingredients. As well, you need proper and consistent moisterisation that will deal with your dry, flaky skin.

>>11772747
I'm not certain if they meant a hair conditioner or a face moisteriser, a little confusing I guess. If it was a face moisteriser, they're right, you need to be consistent and applying well-formulated, irritant-free products that don't damage your (presumably) sensitive skin. If it was a hair conditioner I would question using one daily, but of course it depends on the product and also the users hair and scalp.

>>11771187
I would say that maybe the cleanser you have been using is not suited to your skin type or possibly that it's just a bad cleanser, Neautrogena (or any other company) isn't perfect and sometimes they just get a product wrong. It's possible that your skin is naturally dry but your cleanser was making your skin produce excess oil - or that the time in the year that you tried what Paula recommends (good advice, still) would still indicate combination skin. Were you dry all over? Was it just your cheeks/jaw? You might want to chat send them a message just to clear things up.

>> No.11772981

>>11771196
Yeah, it's truly amazing the feeling you get when stuff you buy actually works! (this sounds like sarcasm, it's not haha)

>>11771333
If you think you don't need to do anything else, then what you've got is a basic skincare regime that works for you. You could (unless your dermatologist discouraged this) also apply the epiduo in the morning as well as night, because it can still work wonders during the day. Also, if you aren't already, you can try and wait around 5-15 (I do ~10) minutes after applying the epiduo before applying moisteriser, as products with Benzoyl Peroxide in them typically work much better when exposed to air for a few minutes. If you notice excessive dryness (some is expected) or redness, bring it closer to the 5 minutes mark - you'll notice a difference!

>>11771941
This is my literal life.

>>11771945
There's a lot of debate about whether or not the rate of oil production can be affected by skincare products and the only real, hard evidence is that the consistent use of chemical exfoliants (BHA, in this case) can slowly decrease oil production, there's not a lot of research behind anything else (unless someone can prove me otherwise).

>>11771985
Yeah PC can get really expensive. I've found the best way to deal with that is to use and abuse their coupon system. For example, if you create an account and set your birthday to the next day, then they'll send you out an email for 15% off and free shipping, then, when the month ends and that coupon expires, just set your birthday again and it gives you another code! I also combine it with the whole $15 off for referring a friend (i.e. myself) to save massive amounts! Like I had $30 credit for a prucahse I made recently and I ordered a toner and sunscreen and it ended up being $3.25 with free shipping! (https://goo DOT gl/ssRz4S is my code in case anyone is curious and wants $15 off)

>> No.11773038

>>11772074
>>11772080
Kind of reiterating what this anon said. You definitely should not wash off a moisteriser, because that defeats the purpose of a moisteriser, I should think. If your moisteriser isn't designed for oily skin, I can imagine how much of a pain that must be. Some people find that just using a toner is enough moisture for the day - however, there are definitely better options available that can reduce the amount of oil produced (like consistent BHA application) or mask the oil produced (like a makeup primer for oily skin).

>>11772102
CeraVe Foaming Cleanser is amazing for price - if you can't get it, you could try eBay, otherwise good drugstore alternatives are:
>Neutrogena Fresh Foaming Cleanser
>Acne . org Cleanser
>Boots Expert Sensitive Cleansing Lotion/Wash
>Olay Gentle Clean Foaming Cleanser
>Clean & Clear Essentials Foaming Facial Cleanser, Sensitive Skin
>Clean & Clear Daily Pore Cleanser, Oil-Free

>>11772671
If you're wanting a basic skincare routine to deal with acne, it should be something like Cleanser, Exfoliant, Benzoyl Peroxide, Moisteriser. Accutane is usually reserved for people with incredibly bad acne, so bad it needs hormonal treatment. Consider a wider range of products in your routine, as there is no miracle products, unfortunately.

>>11772713
>Clearasil DailyClear Vanishing Acne Treatment Cream
>Clean & Clear Persa-Gel 10, Maximum Strength
>Clinique Acne Solutions Emergency Gel Lotion
>Paula's Choice Skincare CLEAR Regular Strength Daily Skin Clearing Treatment with 2.5% Benzoyl Peroxide
>Proactiv & Proactiv+ Advanced Blemish Treatment
Are all highly rated.

>> No.11773062

Thoughts on curology?

>> No.11773093

>>11771172
i would like to know what the woman in pic related is doing

>> No.11773098
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11773098

I had a hard time getting a picture of it, but this is what both my cheeks look like after doing accutane and not wearing enough sunscreen. Finished accutane about 5 months ago but these light red scars haven't faded. Any thoughts about what I could do to lessen the redness? My face is about 9 different colors. Right now I use a Neutrogena gentle cleanser at night and one of those Aztec Masks once a week
Also, any thoughts about the brown "sun spots" all over my face? It seems like there is no way to get rid of those either.

>> No.11773147

>>11773093
Peeling off a mask.

>> No.11773195

>>11773098
AHAs, try them

>> No.11773209

>wash and moisturize my face before going to bed
>only use bar soap
>put on sunscreen every morning
>shave once every two days

anything else i could do?

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11773231

What's the consensus on Kyoku for Men?

I bought it because its one of the better selling exfoliants on amazon, but nobody really seems to recommend it on this board.

>> No.11773264

>>11773195
Any suggestions for a brand? I see Paula's Choice which is probably alright but I am completely ignorant when it comes to reputable brands

>> No.11773278

I have very dull skin anything that will make it more "dewy" and bright?

>> No.11773283
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God level moisturizer, finally got rid of my rosey cheeks too

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>when you apply your BHA

>> No.11773428

Does Pond's aclarant works?

>> No.11773460

I typically shave every two to three days, and put on an exfoliant in the evening on the same days I shave.

Is this a good/bad idea?

>> No.11773490

How do I into PC antiaging?

Getting the Skin Balancing essentials set was a simple enough decision, but the Resist range is absolutely overwhelming

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Red spots, big pores, dark circles under eyes.
What do?

>> No.11773937

>>11773557
>Red spots
If they're blemishes -- Tea Tree Oil/Benzoyl Peroxide

>big pores
Try an astringent like Thayers Witch Hazel Toner after you cleanse

>dark circles under eyes
Sleep.

>> No.11773964

>>11773937
Any cleanser suggestions?

>> No.11774595

>>11773964
I've been using the stuff from Neogen and I like it. I'll probably be looking for something else though as it only seems to last about a month.

>> No.11774604

>>11773937
Fuck no dont do this ,witch hazel fucks your skin up and is irritating as all hell.

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>>11774604
YMMV, senpai. I've had nothing but great results from mine.

>> No.11775718

Shit I didn't see this thread and made my own, anyways here's what I asked

I have these flat red dots from where past pimples used to be. I never had bad acne just an occasional pimple every few months but recently I've noticed they don't fully go away. They leave flat red spots where they once were. You wouldn't even be able to feel them if you rub the area.

They've been there for a few months now. I really want to get rid of them. I wash my face twice a day already and use an acne cream on the affected area every night and so far nothing.

Someone recommended witch hazel. I've been doing research and only other answers I see are rosehip oil and AHAs

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>>11773557

>> No.11776141

>>11772946
>As per usual

you mean like in the last 2 threads youve posted?

lol

>> No.11776280

>got a second session of jessner's peel with retinoic and kojic acid
>skin is peeling like a potato
>mfw everyone is staring at college

>> No.11776298

>>11776280
hot water on face
let sit
rub off dead skin with towel
moisturize
repeat every day

btw, are you the mentally ill girl with BDD?

>> No.11776339

>>11776298
Yes. I using Avene's thermal water and Avenes's cicalfate. I am avoiding hot water.

I am actually feeling better about myself. I have no more comedones, pimples or bumps. I have wounds from popping and a very light PIE, almost invisible.

This peel should resolve it. If it doesn't, will get IPL on Friday

>> No.11776491

Is femanon from Kiehl's still here? Is there something I should try from there? I'm running low on exfoliator and cleanser.

>> No.11776883
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11776883

what is the basic bitch brand to buy things from when i want to put something on my face to make my skin better?
i want to cleanse and moisturize and all that

do i just pick random stuff from the things listed in the pastebin under the different categories?

im tired of using semen

>> No.11776960

>>11771172
Face feels dry and tight after being washed, even if it's just with water.

What do? I feel like I'm living off moisturiser at this point.

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11777228

finally started taking accutane to get rid of pic related, dunno why but I feeling really happy after having this for 3 years. besides getting dry lips what should I except? also since its my 2nd day taking the medicine when will my lips start getting dry?

>> No.11777243

>>11776960
same here do you also get like how do i describe it, spots of white skin that look like dust or smth like that

>> No.11778192

>>11776491
I used to work there too
it is mostly just overpriced and hyped
the mud mask and the sunscreen is good
but nothing else is really worth spending money on
their cleansers are mostly way too drying, just so you know

>> No.11778288

Any recs for a moisturizer that doesn't make your face look greezy af during the day? I am currently using cetaphil moisturizing lotion, which is gr8 at night, but is too much during the day.

>> No.11778314

>>11778288
Teeeeny bit of coconut or argon oil on the dry patches. Don't put it where you aren't super dry. Still use cetaphil all over at number night

>> No.11778317

>>11777228
ew wtf your skins fucking rancid man

>> No.11778342

>>11778314
>coconut or argon oil
don't those make you break out...

>> No.11778361

>>11778342
I use a huge amount of coconut oil every night to take my makeup off. Using a teeny bit on my dry spots has worked really well and I've never broken out from either

>> No.11778394

>>11778314
>coconut

coconut oil is highly comedogenic/acnegenic.

>> No.11778505

what can i do about redness /fa/? my skin type is dry and sensitive

right now i use lush's angels on bare skin as a cleanser, neutrogena pore refining toner, paula's choice retinoid serum, and cerave moisturizer
i've got the dryness under control, don't get zits anymore, and my skin is so so soft, but it still gets kind of red/uneven
what do any of you use for that?

>> No.11778511

>>11776883
just buy drugstore stuff for right now. cerave foaming cleanser is good

don't buy a whole routine at once you gotta introduce everything slowly to see if it works or not

>> No.11778545

>>11778361
It is comedegenic. Whether it breaks you out specifically is up to your genetics.

>> No.11778552

can someone tell me if i'm doing it right

Morning
L'oreal Face Wash / Mask
Quinoderm Antibacterial (The L'oreal just 'feels' like it removes more dirt and grease, The quinoderm 'feels' more like it's useful for the anti bacterial
Simple Moisuriser

Night:
Glycolic Acid Cleanser
L'oreal wash / mask
Panoxyl 10% + Simple Moisturiser

Anything I shouldn't bother with? Seems to keep things under control but I still think I've got 'blotchy' looking skin (red patches around my nostrils and on my chin)

I want pure looking skin and smoothness <3

>> No.11778629

>>11773062
Quite highly rated and works for some people, but definitely patch test the product they give you because they can be really strong and use ingredients you might have never used before and could be allergic to.

>>11773098
Chemical exfoliation is your friend. AHA and BHA are both good, but for scarring, sun spots, uneven skin tone etc. I would be going with BHA. As for a product recommendation based on your next comment, I would say Paula's Choice Skin Perfecting 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant is the product you're looking for, it's their highest selling, best rated product. You could use AHA in addition (applied afterward), but patch test first because those who have had to go on accutane can have reactions due to sensitive skin. Also, make sure you're applying a sunscreen or moisteriser with spf every day to stop any further sun damage.

>>11773209
>bar soap
If you're implying that you're using bar soap on your face, you are in the wrong. Bar soap is way too irritating and harsh to be used on the delicate skin of the face, most people find it be to irritating for the body as well. If you have bacne, redness, dryness etc. on your body consider a simple body wash that will achieve the same results without irritation. For a little exfoliation, try using the body wash (or bar soap) with a loofah which not only helps your body to exfoliate, but can make the product last longer because it lathers more easily.

>>11773231
It's a physical exfoliating product, so it can only be so good. Physical exfoliation on the face is not discouraged, just that it can be easily over done and usually isn't nearly as effective as chemical exfoliation. Consider a BHA or AHA chemical exfoliant which will achieve the same (or considerably better) results with much less irritation (well, a bit, but do know you would be applying acids to your face).

>> No.11778692

>>11773278
Again, chemical exfoliation is amazing for many skin issues. A BHA or AHA chemical exfoliant will work wonders to even out and smooth even the roughest skin.

>>11773283
CeraVe's moisteriser is one of the few to contain truly no irritating ingredients while moisterising well. You should still be using spf in the mornings, however, so don't omit that. Also, this product lacks antioxidants, so if you want a little extra kick, an antioxidant-rich serum could be added both at night.

>>11773428
Pot-set products pose a potential hygiene problem for those with acne-prone skin. While the product might be effective, there are more effective solutions elsewhere that do not pose this risk.

>>11773460
There's no issue with chemical exfoliation after shaving, in fact, it can dramatically reduce ingrown hairs and stop razor burn from forming. The only drawback is that it can sting a little, but that subsides quickly and any redness should be gone by the morning. You can also (depending on what kind and also your skins sensitivity) use your exfoliant in the morning too, as that will help to even out your skin tone, reduce redness etc. over the course of the day.

>>11773490
The easiest way to go about it is to go on their main landing page for their Resist collection and then choose your skin type on the side bar. So, for example, if I go to Resist anti-ageing from the collections category, select combination skin, it narrows the range to 31 products, some of which are sets of products, so I have only a few products to choose between (I usually go by community review based on number, so 4.5 stars and 300 reviews is pretty damn good).

>>11773557
Chemical exfoliation to address the big pores and possibly the red spots as well (introduce a Benzoyl Peroxide product if a chemical exfoliant isn't enough). Products that contain Vitamin C, Niacinamide, Acetyl Glucosamine, White Mulberry Root Extract, Chinese Mulberry Root Extract, Licorice Root Extract and a number (cont.)

>> No.11778799

(cont.)
of other ingredients are helpful in reducing melanin production and so, lightening skin. As well, sunscreen or a moisteriser with spf is essential to stop the skin from becoming darker.

>>11773937
Some people can find using an essential oil like Tea Tree Oil very irritating because it contains volatile components of limonene and eucalyptol which can cause contact dermatitis on exposure to oxygen. Benzoyl Peroxide is proven to be much more effective, if a little more irritating.
>Witch hazel
Depending on the form of witch hazel, you’re exposing your skin either to an irritating amount of alcohol (which causes free-radical damage and collagen breakdown) or to tannins, or both. Moreover, witch hazel contains the fragrance chemical eugenol, which is another source of irritation. The benefits of witch hazel are effectively nullified by its potential to be irritating.

>>11773964
>Neutrogena Fresh Foaming Cleanser
>Acne . org Cleanser
>Boots Expert Sensitive Cleansing Lotion/Wash
>Olay Gentle Clean Foaming Cleanser
>Clean & Clear Essentials Foaming Facial Cleanser, Sensitive Skin
>Clean & Clear Daily Pore Cleanser, Oil-Free

>>11774608
Read above. You might find it works now but if your skin becomes progressively more irritated, that could be why.

>>11775718
Chemical exfoliation is your best bet. Read above for why you shouldn't be using witch hazel. AHAs or BHAs can be effective for treating skin redness, but BHAs are typically more well-rounded and also more effective.

>>11776141
k

>>11776280
What is your skincare routine? Are you moisterising enough? This >>11776298 is good advice, but don't be using water that's too hot, as it can dry the skin and further irritate it.

>>11776491
>>11778192
What this anon said, it's mostly overpriced and over hyped. I was considering their nighttime eye cream, but the moisteriser I'm going to be buying next does the same job and is probably more effective.

>> No.11778892

>>11776883
CeraVe is probably the best brand for drugstore skincare. A basic routine is just a cleanser, toner and moisteriser, the toner you pick (some brands call them an astringent) can be just that (a toner) or it can also have some chemical exfoliating properties to deal with acne, redness, uneven skin tone etc.

>>11776960
Consistent use of a well-formulated moisteriser (heavier, in your case) both at night and in the morning (though, use a sunscreen/moisteriser with spf in the day) will help skin to slowly become more hydrated.

>>11777228
You should be introducing very hydrating products almost immediately. Your dermatologist should have recommended a hydrating moisteriser (very heavy, especially for at night) and you should be using a very hydrating lip balm both at night and during the day to prevent chapping and other signs of dryness.

>>11778288
You might find that simply using a sunscreen that doesn't moisterise the skin too much during the day is enough for you. In which case,
>Aveeno Natural Protection Lotion Sunscreen with Broad Spectrum SPF 50
>Clinique Sun Broad Spectrum SPF 30 Sunscreen Face Cream
are both good options, otherwise,
>CeraVe AM Facial Moisturizing Lotion Broad Spectrum SPF 30
>EltaMD UV Facial SPF 30+
>Paula's Choice Skincare SKIN BALANCING Ultra-Sheer Daily Defense Broad Spectrum SPF 30
Are all good options for your skin type.

>>11778314
I would probably be using the moisteriser first and then putting argan oil/coconut oil on the dry patches, so they don't get spread around, I think that's what you meant.

>>11778342
>>11778394
Actually the two are just emollient plant oils that have no comedogenic properties.

>>11778545
>It is comedegenic.
It's not.

>>11778505
>lush
There's your problem. Lush products are typically highly fragrant and highly irritating. You might not see what it's doing immediately after using it, but it's evident from what you;'re seeing on your face. You need a gentle yet (cont.)

>> No.11778927

(cont.)
effective cleanser that removes dirl, oil and makeup without drying the skin or irritating it in your case. You may also want to consider adding a calming toner such as Paula's Choice Calm Redness Relief Toner, which is designed to effectively deal with redness and relieve irritated skin. So, try a different cleanser (CeraVe's cleanser - the non-foaming one - would be good for you) and consider introducing a calming toner to deal with dryness and sensitivity.

>>11778552
>L'Oreal
>Simple
>L'Oreal
>Glycolic acid in a cleanser
>L'Oreal
There lies your problems. Replace your cleanser with a more reputable brand like that of CeraVe (foaming or non-foaming, depending on whether you're oily or dry, respectively) and do the same with your moisteriser (again, CeraVe is good). Consider introducing a chemical exfoliant (BHA, in your case) to deal with redness, uneven tone, acne, large pores etc.

>> No.11779034

>>11778799
Thayers Witch Hazel is alcohol free, and from what I gather from the ingredients uses natural rose for the fragrance

https://www.thayers.com/shop-thayers/premium-witch-hazel/thayers-alcohol-free-rose-petal-witch-hazel-toner/


Anyhow thanks for your contributions, are you a skincare specialist or dermatologist or something?

>> No.11779043

>>11778799
I did not know that. Which toner would you recommend in place of the Thayers Witch Hazel?

>> No.11779099

>>11779034
>are you a skincare specialist or dermatologist or something?

For some reason, I think a skincare specialist or dermatologist would know how to spell "moisturizer"

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>>11779099

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>>11779099
checked

>> No.11779180
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>>11779099
S bringing the heat

>> No.11779204

>>11778927
done. Thanks. Skin is generally pretty clear. the odd spot. proper regime that you've given me should hopefully make things perfect :) thanks x

>> No.11779314

This might be a retarded question but does anyone here ever tried removing moles with ACV? Does it really work or is it just a meme?

>> No.11779324

>>11779314
it works most of the time depending on the mole..... you can find tutorials online

>> No.11779329

>>11779099
KEK

>> No.11779466
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>have been on a skincare treatment routine for close to 11 months
>it's worked great , got no more zits or skin coloring
>years of acne now replaced by acne scars
>face has the texture of the surface of the moon
I WAS SO CLOSE
WHY

>> No.11779489
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Neutrogena Oil Free
because my skin was born great

>> No.11779673

>>11777228
good choice mate. expect dryness soon. i used aquaphor for my lips. one kind of unusual tip is to put aquaphor on your dickhole im dead serious. my urethra got super dry and inflamed it sucked

>> No.11779712

>>11779466
>use the Azteck healing clay for a while
>Use Dr. Lin acne spot corrector

Those should help immensely. I would say expect results at most 2 months going in.

>> No.11779787

>>11779043
Thayers is fine, its alcohol free and uses the natural extracts of the plant their using for the fragrance

>> No.11779882

>>11779034
Witch hazel, in itself, is irritating because of the tannins in it. Witch hazel’s high tannin content (tannin is a potent antioxidant) can also make it irritating if used repeatedly on skin because it constricts blood flow. Even if the product is using a rose fragrance in addition, it still contains eugenol which, combined with the added fragrance have an even higher possibility to irritate the skin. Witch hazel, as a toner/astringent, should probably be avoided.

>>11779043
I would recommend:
>derma e Soothing Toner with Anti-Aging Pycnogenol
>Paula's Choice Skincare SKIN BALANCING Pore-Reducing Toner
>Paula's Choice Skincare SKIN RECOVERY Enriched Calming Toner
>Clinique Moisture Surge Face Spray Thirsty Skin Relief
If you're looking for something that tones as well as exfoliates, I think I've recommended 2% BHA solutions in the past. And thanks! But I just have way too much time on my hands haha

>>11779099
Countries outside the US exist, funnily enough. You're just mad because I proved you wrong about the Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser, also because I'm far more useful to people in these past few threads than you have been. Just leave.

>>11779204
You're welcome, have fun!

>>11779314
ACV is the biggest meme to ever have entered into the skincare world.

>>11779466
I would highly recommend the use of both BHA and AHA chemical exfoliation to deteriorate scarring, redness and uneven skin tone etc. It seems you're quite competent in sticking with a routine, so you should find it easy to see results.

>>11779712
>Aztek healing clay
Meme.
>Dr. Lin acne spot corrector
This is a 5% Benzoyl Peroxide solution that some may find too irritating. There's plenty of research that shows 2.5% is just as effective and far less irritating. Also, BP is best used all over the face because it prevents new acne from appearing as well as helping to remove active comedones.

>>11779787
>Thayers is fine
It's not.

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Should I be applying sunscreen under my eyes as well?

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>>11779882
>Countries outside the US exist, funnily enough

Mhm, and I'm from one of them. Guess what STHLM stands for.

>You're just mad because I proved you wrong about the Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser

Yeah, except you didn't. I just gave you some recommended reading on cosmetic science, and then stopped responding as I realized that someone who writes "I know that you know that you know you are wrong" is not really someone you can reason with.

>because I'm far more useful to people in these past few threads than you have been

I didn't know there was a competition going on? Ah well.
I think it is good that you're giving basic replies to basic questions because then I don't really need to. People get help. That's the point. I just wrote the FAQ to avoid repeating myself.

I've helped people in the skincare threads since 2013.
It's not like I feel a need to constantly prove myself.

>> No.11780665

>>11780647
yes, as long as your sunscreen isn't irritating your eyes.

the thin skin around the eyes is very sensitive to sun, and is prone to skin cancer. use a mineral-based sunscreen to avoid the irritating substances often found in other sunscreens.

>> No.11780801

>>11779314
ACV can be used to remove some raised moles, with the risk of burning and scarring the skin, and they shouldn't be fucked with as melanomas may develop from moles. The safest option is to ask a dermatologist examine & remove it.

ACV can be used, though, to remove plantar warts. But it can be slow and painful process.

Diluted ACV can also be used to help bring the pH of the skin down to healthier levels, and prevent growth of acne bacteria and some fungus.

ACV is also used to lower the pH of clay masks, to keep them from being too irritating and disruptive of the skin when using them. ACV, or the acetic acid in general, also used to control pH in other cosmetics.

So, it is absolutely useful in skincare.

>>11779712
Aztec healing clay is yet another product that is composed of bentonite clay. It's used in so many products because it's so effective at absorbing oils and cleaning the skin, similar to kaolin clay.

It's fine to use as exfoliation, provided that you moisturize properly afterwards. It can absolutely be something that is worth using, if you're in need of less oily/rough skin and less noticeable pores.

>> No.11781111

>they dont use 100% natural, vegan, cruelty free cosmetics
im not memeing even
but they are healthier for your skin and work great

>> No.11781290

How effective is laser treatment for acne? I know it's pretty expensive, so how long goes between each session? Maybe I only have to do it once?

>> No.11781299

>>11781290
why laser? accutane is the silver bullet for acne

>> No.11781369

>>11777228
>>11777228
dryness, but lots LOTS of chapstick, like a box or something and a non oily moisturiser for some problematic areas, shower with lukewarm water, not hot, not cold, and you skin will look amazing in 3 months, expect a like "burt"the first 2 weeks, that's normal, oh and also hair will look dry too, if you care take care of that as well, some joint/back/head ache is also common but nothing unbearable

skin becomes very fragile, i used to get wounds more easily, but also they heal faster lol

and finally SUNSCREEN EVERY TIME YOU GO OUT, EVEN IF IT'S CLOUDY

for some it's a pain in the ass, other don't even notice, it depends of how your body react, be patient and your skin will look amazing in the end

>> No.11781385

>>11781290
laser treatment will take care of scars , but not treat the acne directly, it won't cure it

sessions may be expensive and for results you'll need between 5-15 sessions depending on how bad acne you have

>> No.11781660

>>11781299
Tried accutane, lost way to much skin (literally skin) from my face and fucked up my lips too. had two quit after 3 weeks or so.

>> No.11781682

>>11781660
damn. I would have tried a lower dose though if that happened to me.

>> No.11781691

Anyone got any advice for something to shrink pores on my nose? mother fuckers are large

>> No.11782020

Is Neutrogena any good for acne? Just bought a bottle and hoping for the best.

>> No.11782123
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What are these dots on my foot?
Background:
I wore alot of sandals during the summer, unfortunately without sunscreen.
My family has a history of dry skin, but particularly on our heels. I haven't had irritation there, thankfully, but figured it might add onto it.

>> No.11782349

>>11782123
you have skin cancer

>> No.11782377

A while ago, I was prescribed clyndamycin by my dermatologist for my acne. Does this shit actually work? I've been using it in conjunction with a benzol peroxide cream while washing my face twice and the shit doesn't seem to be doing anything. I rarely ever touch my face or anything.

>> No.11782379

>>11782123
Skin Cancer

>> No.11782382

Thoughts on tea tree oil?

>> No.11782385

>>11782123
looks malign melanoma to me

>> No.11782460

>>11780654
>Guess what STHLM stands for.
Stockholm.
I spell moisteriser in this way because it's the British variant of moiserizer, you'd think for someone who comes from a country so close to Britain, you wouldn't be so ignorant to spelling variants.
>[...] someone who writes "I know that you know that you know you are wrong" is not really someone you can reason with.
Except that I did, and also it's more because of the fact you know that you're wrong and haven't actually provided any research, case studies or resources to prove otherwise. So, what I said is actually correct.
>I didn't know there was a competition going on? Ah well.
There's not, you're just acting very condescending and stuck up for someone who's not actually helping people in the thread.
>I think it is good that you're giving basic replies to basic questions [...]
Again, with the condescending attitude.
>I've helped people in the skincare threads since 2013.
It's not like I feel a need to constantly prove myself.
By 'helped' do you happen to mean lurk the skincare threads and only ever reply to one a two people before it dies with 50+ questions unanswered?

>>11780801
ACV is a highly debated 'skincare' product. While it can show some of the effects of an acne treatment product like anti-fungal, antibacterial properties, removing excess oil from the skin, assist in balancing the skin’s pH level and normalizing sebum production, it also, due to it being an undiluted acid, has the ability to cause serious burns. Not diluting with water can result in skin burns and damage especially when using the vinegar on the face. Because of this, it shouldn't be used at least before proven topical acne treatments which pose a much lower risk of damaging the skin.
Aztec healing clay is no different to a good facial clay mask, it's simply just another type of mask. In a similar way to regular masks, some people can find it too irritating or too drying.

>> No.11782464

>>11778505
lower concentration of RetinA
also, does that moisturizer have sunscreen?

>> No.11782499

>>11782385
>>11782379
>>11782349
Wait, what the hell? Seriously?
Someone please tell me more information. I thought it was just freckles from the sun or something (or sunburn).
From what I known about maligned melanoma, it appears in a much darker tone with a definitive rasied bump.

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>>11782499
Here, maybe this is a better picture.

>> No.11782503

>>11781111
The background of a product shouldn't dictate whether or not you buy it and, more importantly, whether or not is works, for most people having the product not be tested on animals is enough.

>>11781290
More or less what this >>11781385 anon said. Laser treatments are effective for scarring, but dealing with active acne using lasers will probably have little effect, if anything it will just make the skin more irritated. Acne can't be cured with a single product or procedure and while accutane and other therapies can eradicate excessive amounts, people who have completed the procedures still typically get acne, but at a rate that is in line with normal acne cases. It's then treated the same way acne is usually treated.

>>11781299
Accutane doesn't work for everyone, and even when it does, it typically doesn't stop acne completely.

>>11781691
For large pores, chemical exfoliation is your friend. AHA and BHA options are available, BHA is typically more effective for large pores.

>>11782020
That depends on which product you're referring to.

>>11782123
These just look like sun spots or possibly age spots. I would, however, see a dermatologist just to be absolutely sure.

>>11782377
How long have you been doing this for? If you've only just started a skincare routine, you can't expect your face to instantly clear up. Are you letting the Benzoyl Peroxide sit on your face for 5-15 minutes (I do ~10) before applying moisteriser? BP needs time to oxidise the skin and kill the acne-causing bacteria.

>>11782382
Good in more natural-orientated solutions, but shouldn't be used topically due to its capacity to cause chemical burns. Other acne medications are more effective.

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Thoughts on Burt's Bees Blemish Stick? Any red flag ingredients in here?

Ingredients:
alcohol denat., calendula officinalis flower oil, borago officinalis (borage) seed oil, achillea millefolium (yarrow) oil, carum petroselinum (parsley) seed oil, salix nigra (willow) bark extract, citrus medica limonum (lemon) peel oil, foeniculum vulgare (fennel) oil, water, melaleuca alternifolia (tea tree) leaf oil, juniperus communis (juniper) fruit oil, eucalyptus globulus (eucalyptus) leaf oil

>> No.11782635

>>11782502
see a doctor please

>> No.11782647

>>11782629
Cool, I use this all the time. Just be careful, don't apply it to dry skin unless you put a moisturizer on afterwards.

I use this to dry up acne or sometimes I apply it to the outside of my nostrils and a lil on my forheas when i feel breakouts coming on, or if I'm too oily.

>> No.11782659
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11782659

Hey guys

I think Im doing pretty good. I wash my face with old spice body wash 2 times a day and it's doing wonders. I also use it on my beard for a silky effect. I would recommend this product for anyone suffering of acne.


DONT ever use axe! The perfume this company is using is NOT GOOD.

Anyway, I wish the best of luck to all of you!

>> No.11782669
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11782669

>>11782460
>>11780654
STHLM's response rate is not what makes the threads die. We have his sticky to be thankful for as a springboard for concerns, after all.
I've been OP for most of the threads for a good 6 months now, and the more common trend is just people making their own threads about skincare if the 'skincare thread' hasnt been responded to for a while without enough posts in general.
And that has been a symptom of July and August's sudden huge surge of crossposters that may be used to more general threads or threads about any related topic (mainly /r9k/, /mu/ and /pol/, though mainly /r9k/.)
When it came to the general itself, most would thumb through a thread thats 60-100+ responses, but only add their 2 cents if it got bigger than that.
Before, STHLM was what kept people from checking back into the general and adding their 2 cents or concerns, keeping it consistent. Most people would simply forget the thread, or respond to other skincare related threads before they got saged.
Recently it's been the combination of both CA and STHLM (for the discussion and advice from two knowledgable perspectives) but it still needs a few bumps here and there to keep it alive.

Please remember that at the end of the day, this is just an anonymous mongolian forum for sharing recipies. Discussion and debate is great, but it's a shame to see hostilities grow like this when it derails to attacks of character and off topic claims and mention.

Pic related will be the new skincare thread picture after this reaches close to 300.

>> No.11782681

>>11782659
God dammit I would pay good money to punch that guy's face a few times.

>> No.11782704

>>11782659
>that beard+hair
what da fug

is this a joke

>> No.11782711

>>11782669
tv has basically taken over /fa/ dude

>> No.11782717

>>11782704
Why is nobody mentioning his stretched out face? Has to be photoshopped or extreme lens distortion.

>> No.11782720

>>11782635
I went to one last week for a cold, and was examined head to toe- I'm not sure if this is new or not, but it doesn't seem to follow the ABCDs of melanoma, so I can't see why I should go, especially if theyre sunspots like >>11782503 said.
Please tell me why.

>> No.11782725

>>11782711
Ah, forgot to mention /tv/. I've seen mostly /r9k/ and /mu/ on the waywt thread + misc stuff, with sprinklings of /pol/ and /tv/.

>> No.11782728

>>11782717
Jesus Christ every time I look at it it gets stupider
his hair looks like fuckin Syndrome or Jimmy Neutron what the fuck

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>>11782659

>> No.11782737

>>11782728
just hide the post he's trying to derail the thread

>> No.11782797

>>11782737
Ok, thanks.

>> No.11782905
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11782905

I get these little white bumps on the left side of my chin only. What are they and how can I get rid of them?

My skin type is Dry/Sensitive if that helps at all.

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>> No.11783098

>>11772024
/psoriasis/ here
Mine skips a generation and it's only on my back. Suck it nerd.

>> No.11783253

Why should I avoid products with alcohol in them?
>inb4 because the sticky says so
also can anyone recommend a good astringent/toner?

>> No.11783307

wow

CA vs STHLM
uk vs eu

is this brexit pt. 2 /skincare/ edition? cast in your votes lads

>> No.11783521

>>11782460
>I spell moisteriser in this way because it's the British variant of moiserizer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_spelling_variants

>moisturiser, moisturizer

no it's not

>> No.11783531

I have the exact same thing >>11775718 has. I've been using a 10% Benzoyl Peroxide on the areas but it hasn't done much for me. Any other ideas?

>> No.11783646

>>11782669
You're the one who has been posting most of the skincare threads as of late? Absolutely superb. I've noticed the consistency. Thank you for this.

A great amount of new content that I've been working on for a while is coming Soon™.

>> No.11783902
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11783902

If I have dry skin, what type of cleanser should I be using?

Can I continue using foaming cleansers as long as they're free of sulfates?

>> No.11783929

>>11771172
I've just recently ordered paulas choice resist barrier moist with retinol. I was already using joyals retinol. i'm wondering if it would be counter productive to use both of them at the same time? the joyal one is jelly consistency so maybe wait until that dries? Also, I've been using rosehip oil under my moisturizer and i'm wondering if it'll set off anything in the paulas choice moisturizer i just bought?

>> No.11783981

Is rosehip oil really good?

Also, I am based in Germany and the UK, what would you recommend to start building an affordable and easily available routine? Is any mall-tier stuff decent enough, if it is organic and so on? Thanks so much.

>> No.11784003

I've recently started using a BHA product (salicylic acid). I use it extensively twice a day. While my skin feels quite good in general, my acne got seemingly worse in many places, red and inflamed. Can this be due to overusing the acid?

>> No.11784007

>>11784003
Said product also includes physical peeling, btw

>> No.11784024

>>11783981
I like it anon, worked for my hyperpigmentation. It's known as a "dry oil" like jojoba because it doesn't leave a shiny, oil finish (depending on how much you use but 3 droplets is often plenty". I'm kind of new to perfecting a routine too but what's been working for me is using aztec healing clay at least twice a week, using Cerave foaming cleanser, paula's choice exfoliant aha 8 percent and her retinol moisturizer. Her lines are pretty pricey and I kind of went out on a limb to try them out, so far so good, no weird reactions or anything. What is your skin like?

>> No.11784041

>>11784003
physical peeling can worsen existing acne.
it can irritate the area a bit too much

>> No.11784094

>>11784024
Quite oily, mostly post-acne with some spots still infected or getting infected from time to time. You're just ordering everything online?

>> No.11784441
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Is it okay to use vitamin c and hydroquinone after applying AHA (Glycolic)?

>> No.11784446

>>11784024
How long did it take for you to see a noticeable improvement?

>> No.11784660

Bumping.

>> No.11784669

>>11784003
Dilute your product 1:1 with water, and remember to moisturize.
If that doesnt help, see if a lower % of BHA or an AHA product works better.

>> No.11784680

>>11784446
Maybe a week or two. I know it got to the point where I didn't get depressed and over-analyze my face anymore (which is what I would do everytime I would spot my hyperpigmentation) It was terrible, I couldn't look at mirrors. All from me just siting on the porch one day without sunscreen and I had these two long brown spots near my lip making it look like a mustache fml.

>> No.11784699

>>11784094
Yes because it's pretty convenient for me to do so, I live in an area where the closest thing to me is a grocery store that doesn't quite have the stuff I need/want. Your skin sounds kind of similar to mine except I may be on the more normal side over oily. The biggest concern for me is spots and clogged pores along my jaw, and what I've been doing has been helping.

Oh, and since you say you have oily skin, I would invent in some Stridex (red box) if you haven't done so already. You can find them in any local grocery store (dunno about germany sorry). My brother has skin just like yours and this is pretty much all he uses and you wouldn't think he used to suffer from acne.

>> No.11784707

>>11782905
I get those too mostly along my jaw wtf. My guess is clogged pores. Do you use any type of astringent toner? If not I recommend something like Thayers Witch Hazel. Do you consume a lot of dairy?

>> No.11784713

>>11784441
This is what I'd like to know.

>> No.11784886

>>11784669
it's probably the physical exfoliation, and not the BHA.

>> No.11785047

I'm buying PC 2% BHA Liquid tomorrow and I'm in need of cleanser too, are their cleansers any good?

>> No.11785071

Does anyone still have the modelling eBook, particularly the skincare section? It had a few things that I want to reread.

>> No.11785102

would using Aztec Healing Cream be too overboard if I just occasionally get one or two pimples on my face along with constant sebaceous filaments on my nose?

>> No.11785115

>>11785102
I wouldn't think so, the clay isn't something that's really game-changing for skin (in a good and bad way). good that it's gentle and nice to do if you just want your skin to glow, bad if you're really expecting a skin overhaul game changer. just do once a week if you're worried, and use water instead of the vinegar.

>> No.11785119

>>11785047
they're okay but expensive as with all of PC things. if you haven't already tried it you'll see cerave being recommended frequently.

>> No.11785156

>>11785119
In my country cerave is as expensive as PC, not sure yet, but I will probably try PC first.

>> No.11785227

>>11785115
don't use water. the apple cider vinegar (or any weak acid) is required to lower the ph of the alkaline clay.

>> No.11785281

Bump

>> No.11785329

>>11782460
>due to it being an undiluted acid, has the ability to cause serious burns

wrong
ACV isn't an undiluted acid, it's just apple cider vinegar, it's usually around 5% acetic acid.

Undiluted acetic acid is pure >99%
lern2chem

>> No.11785400

>>11784707
I do indeed use Thayers and no, my dairy is extremely limited.

I've noticed that portion of my chin is much more difficult to shave, as for whatever reason the hairs just don't want to grow in a way that they're easily removed. My bet is that probably has something to do with it.

>> No.11785707

>>11785329
I use concentrated TFA on my skin. Haven't had one zit since I started

>> No.11786037

Bumping

>> No.11786042

>>11783646
Wow, thank you for both your compliment and for all of your contributions to this general :,) !

>> No.11786100

whats yall thoughts on the Tiege system?

>> No.11786162

>>11782629
>Alcohol
>Lemon oil
>Juniper oil
>Eucalyptus oil
All of these are incredibly irritating and with alcohol being the main ingredient, this is a product I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot poll.

>>11782659
Old spice body wash (depending on which one you purchased) usually has an excessive amount of fragrance and sometimes colour which can be not only incredibly irritating but actually inflame existing acne. It's definitely better than doing nothing, but it shouldn't be used instead of a well-formulated cleanser that doesn't contain these potentially irritating ingredients.

>>11782669
Agreed.

>>11782720
Although GPs are thorough, it's possible that they could have simply missed these spots because of how light they are (or perhaps they weren't there at the time). You don't have to see a GP or dermatologist if you don't want to, just that it would alleviate any concerns you have and also put a nail in the coffin as to what the spots are. There is a chance, if very small, that they could be the beginning of a melanoma developing, especially if you notice them getting darker/larger progressively.

>>11782905
These potentially could be ingrown hairs from shaving, or possibly just acne. I would recommend constructing a shaving routine outside of just a shaving gel/foam/cream. If you find that doesn't help, try introducing a chemical exfoliant if you don't already or primarily using Benzoyl Peroxide if you don't already.

>>11783253
For skin, there are good alcohols and bad alcohols, corresponding roughly to high-molecular-weight alcohols and low-molecular-weight alcohols, respectively. Alcohols with low molecular weights—the bad-for-skin alcohols—can be drying and irritating. The alcohols to be concerned about in skincare products are ethanol or ethyl alcohol, denatured alcohol, methanol, isopropyl alcohol, SD alcohol, and benzyl alcohol. (cont.)

>> No.11786197

>>11783253
(cont.)
In addition to being drying and irritating, these alcohols can generate free-radical damage and disrupt skin’s protective barrier. Alcohol helps ingredients like retinol and vitamin C penetrate into the skin more effectively, but it does that by breaking down the skin's barrier—destroying the very substances that keep your skin healthy over the long term. I could go on.
>Kwak S, Brief E, Langlais D, Kitson N, Lafleur M, Thewalt J. Ethanol perturbs lipid organization in models of stratum corneum membranes: An investigation combining differential scanning calorimetry; infrared and (2)H NMR spectroscopy. Biochim Biophys Acta. 2012;1818(5):1410-9.
>Kownatzki E. Hand hygiene and skin health.. J Hosp Infect.. 2003;55(4):239-45.
>Neuman M, Haber J, Malkiewicz I, Cameron R, Katz G, Shear N. Ethanol signals for apoptosis in cultured skin cells.. Alcohol. 2002;26(3):179-90.
As for a recommendation for a toner/astringent:
>derma e Soothing Toner with Anti-Aging Pycnogenol
>Paula's Choice Skincare SKIN BALANCING Pore-Reducing Toner
>Paula's Choice Skincare SKIN RECOVERY Enriched Calming Toner
>Clinique Moisture Surge Face Spray Thirsty Skin Relief
Are all good products.

>>11783521
"Word pairs are listed with the British English version first, in italics, followed by the American English version:"
The page you linked me immediately proves you wrong.

>>11783531
Benzoyl Peroxide helps with preventing new acne as well as managing active comedones. It does not serve much purpose in removing scarring or redness, for that chemical exfoliation (BHA, I would recommend for you) is necessary.

>>11783902
Ideally, a non-foaming cleanser is best. Sulphates (unless they're sodium lauryl sulphate) aren't bad in skincare, haircare is different, however. If you have dry skin, your reliance should be on a good toner and a good moisteriser, cleansers that claim to be 'hydrating' leave emollients on the skin which can cause acne, so avoid them where possible.

>> No.11786248

>>11783929
It's most likely that the types of retinol are the same, but the product formulation is different. I would use up the Joyals retinol product before using the Paula's Choice product. The rosehip oil shouldn't have any effect on the moisterisers, but it couldn't hurt to patch test first. Also you should allow your moisteriser to sink in before applying the rosehip oil as it is more emollient and takes longer to sink in (typically), so having it be the last product you apply gives it plenty of time (over-night) to sink in. Alternatively you could mix it into your moisteriser and applying that, which combines the two steps.

>>11783981
Rosehip oil is very beneficial to the skin for multiple reason but it can be less effective for your skin concern depending on what that is.

>>11784003
How high is the percentage of BHA? 2% is recommended for safe, daily use, but any higher than that could irritate the skin if used daily. Also what brand are you using? The product's formulation could be the issue.

>>11784094
If you have oily skin, you might find rosehip oil to be too emollient and hydrating for your skin. As I said just before, perhaps mixing a few drops into your moisteriser might be a good choice.

>>11784441
>>11784713
Yes. Vitamin C, depending on it's concentration, is a very non-irritating product and if you're using a serum that you use in your moisteriser, it shouldn't be an issue. But, in saying that, and for any skincare product, if you find that it irritates your skin excessively, use it only at times that you don't use AHA products or dilute it further.

>>11784707
>>11785400
Witch hazel, as I've said already, should be avoided as a toner/astringent due to its potential to be highly irritating.

>>11784886
They didn't say they used physical exfoliation, did they?

>> No.11786276

>>11785047
>>11785119
Reiterating this. PCs cleansers are fantastic, but if you don't want to spend too much, CeraVe is also rated very highly. >>11785156 If they're the same price, PC is probably the better choice (pun intended).

>>11785102
You'd probably benefit more from chemical exfoliation to deal with those two issues rather than the Aztec healing clay.

>>11785227
ACV is not required, but its disinfecting properties aid in the mask's effectiveness.

>>11785329
Yeah, I didn't phrase that correctly. ACV isn't an acid, I just meant that the product itself shouldn't be used alone.

>>11786100
Looks good, sad how much marketing has to be put into it though.

>> No.11786362

>>11786197
What BHA would you recommend then?

I'm >>11783531

>> No.11786394

>>11786362
Paula's Choice Skin Perfecting 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant.

>> No.11786439

>>11784441
Vit C needs a ph =< 3.5 to penetrate the skin. Legit too, not just for maximum penetration - I've switched from timeless vit c to home made and the difference in a week is obvious. That is why it is generally recommended to do it before an AHA since AHA may have a higher ph.

I just do it in the morning after a cleanser.

>> No.11786494

>>11786197
On that note, what chemicals should I be avoiding in a shampoo? I get the odd blemish or two in my hairline so I'm certain it's my shampoo doing it.

>> No.11786989

I have to give a special thanks to CA in this thread.

Last week I asked for some advice for my terrible skin. It was all red and full of blemishes, with huge pores and oily skin around the nose area. I was using shitty French products with a physical exfoliant .

He recommended some products, most notably Paula's Choice. I couldn't find the Cerave moisturizer, so I went full out on Paula's Choice products instead: Hydralight One Step Facial Cleanser, Skin Balancing Pore-Reducion Toner, Skin Perfecting 2% BHA Liquid and Redness Relief SPF 30 mineral moisturizer.

After only 3.5 days of my new skin routine, my face is noticeably less red, pores have shrunk in size by a lot, skin is not oily and blemishes are either gone or reduced in visibility. I'm not saying it fixed my skin or anything, but it improved it by a lot. Let's hope it gets even better from here given time, so no visit to a dermatologist is needed.

Thanks a lot.

>> No.11787397

>>11786989
You're welcome.

>> No.11787410

Any advice for dark spots on lips?

>> No.11787586
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>>11786197
you spell it "moisteriser".
that's not the correct spelling in the UK nor anywhere else.

>> No.11787841

Good morning everyone, bumping.

>> No.11788177

Whats the cheapest but most effective bha i can find that is in a local chain (stop n shop, target, etc.).

>> No.11788270

>>11788177
S T R I D E X

>> No.11788313

>>11788270
Would I need to moisturize the fuck out of my skin with that?

>> No.11788341

>>11788313
it depends on your skin type. some people need to apply some kind of moisturizer after, and some people don't. in any case, it's not like you need to apply a shit-ton of moisturizer after

>> No.11788342

Has anyone tried Kiehl's midnight recovery concentrate? I had a sample and it last about a week. I feel like my skin was way better when I was using it, but maybe I'm imagining it.

>> No.11788356

>>11788342
Its placebo.
Be careful with it.
http://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia-skin-care-reviews/by-brand/kiehls/_/Midnight-Recovery-Eye-Cream

>> No.11788388 [DELETED] 

>>11788356
I don't trust the PC reviews, because they always talk about using alcohol, and A LOT of their shit uses the "bad" alcohols they tell people to avoid. The truth is that a well formulated product can benefit from using alcohol to help penetrate deeper into the skin. Usually a serum should have this property, and this product is a serum.

They also said on that review that this product has fragrant extracts, which they seem to hate without a proper reason. Apparently, some people develop an allergy to lavender oil, so they discourage it on everyone.

>> No.11788400

>>11788356
Beautypedia isn't a reliable source
the funding bias is real, per definition.

but Kiehl's is still kinda sucky
the oil is moisturizing and nice though, and it's rare for people to develop irritation from it

>> No.11788414

Why do you need moisturizer when your skin already produces sebum?

>> No.11788462

>>11788400
Some Kiehl's products are good. Like their under eye cream with vitamin c and haloxyl. Both ingredients have good research behind them. Their moisturizers are also insane.

>> No.11788498

How the fuck do I get rid of Keratosis? I'm tired looking like a fucking lizard!

>> No.11788610

What is a BHA exfoliator and can anyone recommend me a decent brand Paula's seem a bit expensive

>> No.11788808

>>11788610
Bha is salicylic acid.

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>>11786439
>glycolic acid pKa 3.83
>vitamin c pKa 4.10

>> No.11788929

I'm going on work travel to africa next week. Some recommendations for how to avoid skin damage, since I have really fucking fair skin from sitting inside working all day. What is the best protection possible?

>> No.11788933

>>11788929
Umbrella, hat, and a high spf.

>> No.11788945

>>11788929
I would be thankful for some recommendations* My phone erased that part

>> No.11788949

>>11788933
>walking through kenyan marketplace with umbrella

lol gonna be awkward, but thank you!

>> No.11788961

>>11788846
>thinking pKa = pH

C'mon bruv

Also, the pH of a pure substance in solution will be different than anything in a cosmetic formulation.

If you were to look for the pH levels of various AHA and Vit C serums, you'll find that properly formulated vitamin c serums will test between 2.5-3.5 and AHA products at 3.0-4.0

>> No.11788969

>>11788610
check the FAQ

>> No.11789184

does anyone know the waterproof moisturizer that was featured in ELLE's best products of the month a while back?
It specifically mentioned that it was water activated, and that worked better in the water (if you were going swimming) rather than in daily use.
I'm going to puerto rico in a few weeks, so i'd rather find out whether or not it was reputable.

>> No.11789202

>>11772981
hey, thanks for posting your refer-a-friend code, I'm using it now.

>> No.11789253

If moneys not an issue what are the best routines? What are the best products? Should i just get bi-weekly facials?

>> No.11789503

>>11789253
Sticky has what you need on routine. Best products are disputed and depend on skin concern.
Bi-weekly facials sounds too expensive.

>> No.11789735

I will seriously send fucking $20 via paypal to someone who can help me find a moisturizer that fits this criteria. My skin is retardedly sensitive and ive had a horrible time trying to find a moisturizer.

It must be/have

> alcohol free (cetyl, stearyl, cetostearyl)
> no dimethicone
> no fragrance/parfume
> at least 4 oz
> doesnt burn my skin or make me itch
> not ridiculously expensice (less than $40 preferably)
> none of the primary comedogenic shit (anything above a 2)

Yes im aware my autism is showing. Im serious about paying whoever can help me find something suitable. Ill have to try it out but if it works you will be paid, plus a good old Merican tip if you dont mind my nitpicking

>> No.11789826

>>11789735
Cerave

>> No.11789876

>>11789826
Cerave has like 3 different alcohols in it and causes closed comedones for me. Ive tried it before

>> No.11790608

>>11789735
Avene Clearance Hydra for Iso patients

>> No.11790677

>>11789253
Probably buying every product from PC Resist after narrowing by skin type.

It's a tricky question to answer because there is always more you can add to a given routine

>> No.11791002

>>11790608
Thanks for the rec but unless im looking at the wrong product, it has cetyl alcohol, fragrance, and is only like 1.25 oz

>> No.11791101

>>11790677
Why PC resist, instead of their other lines?

>> No.11791147
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11791147

I have bumpy skin (not white heads or zits) what do to get rid of it and make it smooth?

>> No.11791287
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11791287

I've had this pimple or whatever on my nose for like two months now. The first days it had a white cap, so I carefully removed it with steam and a blackhead remover, which I usually do if it's necessary. This method has never left any scars or anything.

It's still here. I don't touch it or anything, but it's still this hilly thing on my nose. No white top, just some brown black skin which feels and looks like a crust. It has been two months now and it won't go away. It didn't even get noticeably smaller or anything.

What is it and how do I get rid of it?

>sorry for bad quality pics

>> No.11791555
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11791555

Between Cerave and Cetaphil, which has a better brand of cleansers?

>> No.11791581

>>11791555
cetaphil

>> No.11791582

>>11778892
thank you for the advice daddi dermo

>> No.11791592

>>11782720
go to an actual dermo u fuckin retard

>> No.11791658

can anyone recommend good AHA or BHA skincare products?

>> No.11791682
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11791682

What consistency does a Paula's Choice cleanser have? Is it a gel, a foam, or what? And do they work well as a part of a double cleanse?

>> No.11792584

So I have v mild acne, but a bunch of scars from being a teen.

Added SA to my routine and it was fine for teh first week, but i'm starting to get some spots where i didn't before. Does SA have a "purge period?" Because I probably did have some shit under my skin.

>> No.11793145

Bumping

>> No.11793153

>>11791287
Is it a nodule, like an infection under the skin?
Or is it just a bad scar?

>> No.11793190

>>11792584
it does not

>> No.11793275

>>11791682
Theyre usually gels. Theyre lightweight.

>> No.11793895
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What's a good cleanser for someone with dry skin?

>> No.11793997

I had really bad acne (cystic on my back, deep cystic on the neck) took antibiotics for it before moving towards accutane and couple that with a benzoyl peroxide wash, which bleached a lot of my clothes but helped clear it up most places.

Then I moved and started uni, ran out of my prescription and everything went to shit. Back on it now but my back is still terrible.I do fairly normal exfoliation, always wear a clean shirt to bed, anything else to help with bad acne on the back?

>> No.11794048

>>11793997
Get back on those antibiotics and treat yourself to chemical exfoliation

>> No.11794128

Bumping, my acne just went crazy after getting sick

>> No.11794307

>>11793153
I did some more searching and found the Fibrous Papule which looks very similar. I'll ask my doctor if he can diagnose it, because there are a handful of other pimple-like things on the nose which might be harmful. If it is a fibrous papule, it can be removed cosmetically pretty easily.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papule
>http://www.dermnetnz.org/topics/fibrous-papule-of-the-nose/

>> No.11794332 [DELETED] 

>>11793895

vichy cleansing milk is all right but i'm sure there's cheaper stuff out there, look for non-fragnanced, mild, neutral ph

>> No.11795000

>>11771172
has anyone tried anything from aesop? how is it?

>> No.11795009

Benzoyl Peroxide has barely done shit for my skin over a few months, what are my other options?

If it helps, my skin feels greasy all of the time and like 10 minutes after I get out of the shower.

UK based.

>> No.11795013

>>11795009
I should mention that I have a lot of blackheads on nose. How to remove?

My skin isn't even and smooth looking.

My acne isn't severe but there's plenty of red marks/spots without actual heads.

>> No.11795442

>just got my first skin cleanser
>shave to exfoliate
>Witch hazel over it to clean any small cuts and tone the skin

nothing will save me from a weak chin though

>> No.11795805

Morning bump

>> No.11795997

>>11795013
>>11795009
PC Skin Balancing essentials set

>> No.11796005

>>11795442

Hold on, did I do this right?

>Take a light warm hand towel to my face to open up pores
>apply shaving cream
>Shave
>get in shower
>use cleanser
>get out and apply toner (very oily skin)

did i do this in the right order?

>> No.11796523
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11796523

I need some help with this, Ive suffered for this since I was like 12 years old, took accutane when I was 18 and I was left with those scars, my entire life ive had depression because of this untill I started college where I started doing excercise and dressing better. Anyways I want to know if there is some kind of treatement or do I have to get a surgery to get rid of this shit? Before you ask I used to have Huge Plugs on my ears, need to get surgery for that aswell. Any advice?

>> No.11796574
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11796574

Suggestions for getting smooth, almost glowing legs?

Maybe it's just my chicken-shit pale skin on my legs that shows off any blemish, and is fairly translucent. Should I just try being outside more for the sake of getting a slight tan? Although with a good sunscreen like NO-AD's Sport 50, how long would that take...

I noticed the wiki suggests carrots as well, which I can do, but I think I should be changing up my routine. I use a DE razor with some cheapshit shaving gel/foam, and do my best to be gentle, but no matter what, I always end up with some red spots on my left calf, and a handful of ingrowns scattered all around both legs, which sometimes develop into zits, or otherwise just highly inflamed, painful blemishes.

FWIW, I take spironolactone daily, so I'm fairly sure it can't be a hormone issue.

pic unrelated. having issues posting

>> No.11796579

>>11796523
Laser surgery. Also, tea tree oil or different exfoliants help with minimizing the look of those scars.

>> No.11796591

>>11796005
I would think you should shave after (or during) the shower, not before. I personally shave after I exfoliate, but I'm not sure if that's ideal. I figured cleansing after a shave would just irritate things with chemicals. Idunno

>> No.11796592

>>11796574
Weirdly enough, the Paula's Choice body spray helped minimize the look of my ingrowns and blemishes on my legs. Look at the type of cheapo shaving cream- does it moisturize well?
If not, definitely get yourself some cocoa butter or argan for your legs. Baby oil works too, but I've heard more people use cocoa butter.

>> No.11796596

>>11796591
Whoops. I meant, I shave after I cleanse.

>> No.11796627

>>11796592
Do you mean moisturizing after the shave? Or, a more moisturizing product for the shave? I use Aveeno's Daily Moisturizing Lotion as recommended by Sweethome, and it seems to have slightly improved my skin elsewhere, but... Legs are still a struggle.

>> No.11796772

>>11796627
Moisturizer after, but making sure that your shaving cream has some moisturizer in itself.
I use that Aveno shit for my arms, what a coincidence.

>> No.11796892

what are the best body washes i could use on my skin that won't dry it out or irritate it too much?

>> No.11796997

Also bumping for haircare products, maybe? Why isn't there a similar thread/FAQ for those? The typical hair thread is usually just for haircut advice, but not how to take care of your hair.

>> No.11797009

>>11796627
>>11796772

Thats what I thought too, I shaved before I got into the shower since I use a double edged safety razor. I always nick the underside of my neck and my upper lip with it because shitty cheap gilette blades.

>> No.11797014

>>11796997
There used to be one, but it got lost as the years went by.
Maybe hunt through the archives and cook one up?

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Is there any hope for me to ever have a normal back again? This is mostly old scars from my teenage years, but I do still get new pimples on a regular basis.

>>11796579
Can I get a procedure like that done on my back?

>> No.11797023

>>11797018

Wash your sheets anon.

>> No.11797033

>>11797023
How often? Once a week?

Also, how do I get rid of scarring? Washing my sheets won't fix that.

>> No.11797038

>>11797033
It might also be worth noting that I always sleep in a shirt, and I change shirts every day or two.

>> No.11797068

>>11797033
>>11797038

You could try and use a cleanser on your back then. Part of that is just easy to clog up pores in the back by deadskin and other debris.

>get a stick with a loufa
>scrub the shit out of your back to scrap all the dead skin particles
>sleep on a clean bed

I know, because I have a back like that. Though, just washing my sheets often solves the issue for me and staying away from soda. The back of the neck is where I break out the most, because I touch it too much in summer when its hot and humid.

>> No.11797088

>>11797068
Another anon here. Instead of a loufa, which can harbor germs easily, you might try a "salux cloth" which ought to make things easier to reach, and be cleaner to use. I got a cheapshit one at a local supermarket and it seems to work quite well. Uses a lot less soap, as well.

>> No.11797095

>>11797088

Yep thats what I was thinking about in my head!
It's whats given/bought at Korean spas for you to work on scrubbing all the dead skin off

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Holy shit dudes try this one out. Easy peel-off mask made from activated charcoal powder and elmer´s glue. Just did it and skin is a million degrees of silky smooth.
https://youtu.be/lBmLC0ECUmk

>> No.11797144

>>11797127
That procedure is not recommended.

>> No.11798052
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11798052

I need help bad
I usually never get acne but when I do it's right in the middle of my nose and GLARINGLY HUGE
I'm not sure if it's scarred this time, but the spot has gotten darker and has been there for more than like 2 weeks
does the stuff in the wiki really work? can anyone confirm?

>> No.11798292

>>11798052
Are you sure its acne?

>> No.11798295

>>11798292
Yeah it was a big whiteheaded pimple before it became a dark mark

>> No.11798301

>>11798295
Sounds like a blackhead, or some pigmentation.
What kind of exfoliator are you using?

>> No.11798313

>>11798301
None, the only thing I've been doing is pressing a hot wet towel on my face and using proactive with no results
I know next to nothing about skin care honestly

>> No.11798317

>>11798313
Check the sticky. A good skincare routine is the best for good skin.
What most likely happened was pigmentation due to sun exposure. Do you wear sunscreen at least? That's key.

>> No.11798327

>>11798317
I'll wear some sunscreen and check out the sticky then, thanks
I've never had this problem is what worries me- I'm not sure if it's scarred or not, is there anyway to tell?

>> No.11798437

Thinking of adding a toner to my PC Skin Balancing basic routine (cleanser+bha liq+moisturizer). Is the Resist one worth it over the Skin Balancing toner? It's significantly more expensive

>> No.11798900

>>11798327
There's a plethora of resources out there that specifies what kind of scarring it is. I'm surprused you didn't show us a picture of it.

>> No.11798910

Maybe not exactly skincare but my hair is thin, like the strands themselves are really thin and fine and I can see my scalp from the side when I slick my hair back. How can I make my hair thicker?

>> No.11798950

It seems like no matter what I use, my hormonal/period acne lasts a week and makes me not want to leave my house. is there an ingredient that helps specifically with hormonal or am i screwed? I use cleanser-toner-emulsion-moisturizer and i face mask once a week and exfoliate twice a week. my skin glows except around then and it makes it more bitter.

>> No.11798986

>>11798910
There are shampoos and conditioners for thin hair. I fell for the expensive shampoo meme and it's been 1,5 month since I've bought it and there is little to no progress for now, but I've heard that it takes up to 4 months to see the results.

>> No.11799311

Bumping

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>>11799311
nice dubs

>> No.11800680

how to treat blackheads on the nose
Keep opening up the pores daily to apply the cleanser and then sealing it with toner? (I have very oily skin, exacerbated by the humidity)

>> No.11800717

>>11800660
How do you weigh in on the Thayers Witch Hazel Toner debate? Is it really that bad for you?

>> No.11801018

>>11800680
Seconding this
I started using Stridex max strength pads on my face about two weeks ago and all its done as far as I can tell is dry my cheeks out

>> No.11801107

>>11801018
bha takes a couple of weeks to kick in.
why not add a moisturizer after?

>> No.11801157

>>11801107
Yeah, I moisturize.
How many times a day should I use them? I don't actually have an acne problem, just the blackheads/large pores.

>> No.11801173

My skin dries up horribly after taking showers. Note that I take very cold showers. It was worse when I took hot showers but I'm still having problems. Is it my soap?

>> No.11801507

Does anyone know some products that fade scars? Specifically for legs.

>> No.11801626

>start using benzoyl peroxide
>it clears up my skin almost completely
fucking christ, might have been useful to know during the last 8 years that acne has been killing my confidence

>> No.11801657

>>11800660
T-thanks

>> No.11801735

How do I skincare?
I'm the most pale person I know. Got some ginger genetics too. I had a lot of freckles when I was younger and my hair was bright red. Anyways...

My skin burns really easily in the summer. This isn't exactly a problem anymore because it's not sunny anymore where I live.

My skin gets really dry in the winter tho. Especially on the face. It gets so dry that it gets flaky and if I start moisturizing it, I get pimples around my face. So my face is either pale and flaky or pale and filled with red spots that really point out against my pale skin.

>> No.11801766

>>11801157
I used stridexRed and it didnt help me at all
Take note that I literally took my time with it, going from using once a week to eventually every night and didnt see much difference
it just dried my face and when I cut back to more days in between it didnt make much difference

so, keep with it but if that shit aint working after months of use, dont be a stupid nigger like me thinking somehow it will, because it wont
Some products work for some people not for others

>> No.11801874

>>11800717
It's not nearly as bad for the skin as it has been described in the thread. But the alleged benefits of witch hazel aren't that scientifically well-documented either, specifically concerning rosacea and different kinds of dermatitis.

Some people experience that it helps clear up their acne (possible antibacterial activity) and helps with too oily skin. Major irritation appears to be avoided by using low concentrations of witch hazel extract, in alcohol-free formulations, followed by some kind of moisturizer.

One of the issues with witch hazel, as with all natural products, is the lack of standardization of what is the product actually /is/ in terms of the concentrations of the various active ingredients and their interactions. That's one of the reasons why we have all these arrows from different studies pointing in different directions, partly also influenced by some biased studies I've read that have been sponsored by companies selling these products.

As with all products containing possible irritants, the resulting actual irritation of the skin is dependent on many factors. If you're not experiencing intolerable irritation from the product, then there's no real need for you to not use it "because it contains irritants". Also, sensitization (developing an allergy) to the substances in witch hazel is quite rare.

>> No.11801876

>>11801626
what about acne spots?

>> No.11801915

>>11796523
What you have are so called post-acne atrophic scars, mainly "boxcar" type. Microneedling/dermarolling could change your face forever, in a good and inexpensive way. You can either do it at home, or in-clinic. There's plenty of guides online about how to do it in a safe manner.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4509584/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2840919/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3996784/

(if you're not into reading scientific articles, just look at the images and the discussion/conclusion part)

>> No.11801932

>>11801876
Use bhas, something with hydroquinone and always wear sunscreen

>> No.11802067

WHY ISNT ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT
"The Ordinary" PRODUCTS? I just bought everything they have except like two things. So far i'm loving it and everything is hella cheap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTdePu1cTGU

>> No.11802074

>>11801766
Welp. That's another waste of money, then.
How should I know what to buy to treat my nose pores/blackheads, then, without wasting my money? Is such a thing even possible?

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>>11802067
These are the things I picked up at their Toronto location. I'm still waiting for everything else to ship from the UK. I stupidly placed an order before I found out that they were sold like 15 minutes away from my house baka

>> No.11802106

>>11795009
You use an exfoliant as well?

If not, try 2% SA every other day - every day along with it.

>> No.11802155

I had a terrible breakout on my hands from something. It got covered in waterfilled bumps. That breakout has subsided and the bumps have gone away but the left over skin has me looking shitty.

How to remove excess skin? Use a harsh cleaner like one would to get grease stains off? (Has large coarse particles to scrub off)

>> No.11802203

>>11802074
>That's another waste of money, then.

you haven't seen any results (yet) and one other user tells you it didn't work for them, and you're like "so it's shit then"? it works for tens of thousands of other people so it'll probably at least do something.

how often do you use it? 2 times a day is recommended. just try using up the rest of the jar and don't buy it again if it doesn't help

>> No.11802285

>>11802203
I guess it's just that I'm already a little skeptical. I don't even have acne, and everything about the jar is just going on about acne. People here told me this would also work on blackheads, but I'm not seeing anything that would suggest it now, and hearing that someone else reported that it did nothing is understandably disheartening in that context. I'll keep using it and moisturizing for now. I just wish this all made a bit more sense, I guess.

With fitness, it's all "if you don't have a very rare genetic disorder, eat below TDEE to lose weight" and so on. There's burbling about low-carb diets and things like that but it's all pretty straightforward for the main thrust of it. If you assert that it's just your body type keeping you fat on 4chan, people will laugh at you and rightly point out that you're wrong. In here, it's all "try one of these, that works sometimes. But everybody's skin is different so who knows?" The vagueness in comparison is just kind of frustrating.

>> No.11802309

>>11802285
blackheads are a kind of non-inflammatory acne. dead skin and oils getting trapped in the pores. have you checked if its just actually sebaceous filaments??

bha works for almost all people

>> No.11802326

>>11802309
>have you checked if its just actually sebaceous filaments??
No. I didn't even know you could check, and I don't know how.
I think they might be, but I understand that BHA can decrease the size of your pores and therefore sebaceous filament visibility as well. Is that true?

>> No.11802338

>>11802326
I was reading on blackheads and filaments last night. Bha should help reduce both, but filament is something that keeps growing back naturally at a relatively fast rate

>> No.11802341 [DELETED] 

>>11802338
>I understand that BHA can decrease the size of your pores and therefore sebaceous filament visibility as well. Is that true?

>> No.11802346

>>11802338
So, basically, I have to keep using it or I'll look like I've been peppered again?

>> No.11802350

>>11802346
yep, it's very common.
once you're rid of them/they're really small, you can probably use bha less often to just keep it down

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I'm going to visit the dermatologist but just before that I was thinking about asking here how would I ever go about getting my skin clear

I've tried a lot and this is my second to last hope pic related is this circle I have near my nose

>> No.11802377

>>11802366
well, what have you tried?

>> No.11802481

>>11802377
When I began skincare I just began with shitty cheap drugstore products for 6 euro a piece.
I have oily skin, so I bought the basics of a routine: Cleanser, (physical) exfoliator toner and moisturiser. I realised my mistake of buying a 10 euro alcohol based toner which irritated the shit out of my face it felt similar to a bee sting. It did nothing so then I bought a better cleanser, LaRoche Possay, which I regret using because I feel like it did nothing as well. A load of toners ranging in ingredients and types didn't do anything, maybe I didn't find the right one yet?

Face masks did nothing for me I tried a few but none of them made a real difference even after using a few of them once a week for a month consistently. I never thought that I would need to change my moisturiser as I've always used the neutrogena oil free moisturiser which never irritated or did anything bad, it definitely moisturised so there's that going for it. Benzoyl Peroxide cream I picked up at the start of summer, works well as a moisturiser and evened out my skin texture.

I've tried changing my diet for a couple of months to no avail, drinking three litres of water a day for 3 months changed nothing but made me go to the bathroom more times than I ever did before that.

One thing I've never tried are AHA exfoliants. BHAs I'm acquainted with, and have helped my acne problem tremendously, salicylic acid is a very cool dude.

I'm sort of stuck because I'm 90% sure that I've only hurt my skin even more, looking at a picture from a year ago I had relatively clear skin which makes me want to throw it all away tbqh with you familia.

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