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[/RG/ - Runway General No.11497631]

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Discussion of anything (SS17, former runway shows you really liked, showroom collections, etc.) runway related.

Starting off with Christopher Shannon. He has some pretty interesting designs and keeps getting better. Britain's fashion showings are usually pretty shit (barring J.W., Craig Green, and McQueen) but he is definitely someone to look out for.

[Anonymous No.11497638]

>>11497631

[Anonymous No.11497645]

>>11497638

>I told him to cover it in belt loops and he did the absolute MADMAN

[Anonymous No.11497652]

>>11497631
dont forget Nasir anon with UK fashion. he has the only interesting take on streetwear

[Anonymous No.11497670]

>>11497638
>>11497645

[Anonymous No.11497675]

>>11497652

Fair enough. He had some pretty interesting offerings for FW16. I think the fact that he distances himself from simplifying his outlook to making "streetwear" is why he does well.

[Anonymous No.11497683]

>>11497675
agreed. it's moreso coincidental that his work gets lumped under streetwear as his primary aesthetic is inspired by urban youth (aka people who dress in streetwear), particularly british underground music scenes.

his headwear alone deserves discussion. here's one he designed for pugh's ss09 collection. it's great to see talented designers flock together like this

[Santa Claus No.11497684]

>>11497631
glad to see a lot of recent designers experimenting with denim.

currently DIYing a pair of old Acnes with pockets on the front

[Anonymous No.11497689]

>>11497684
rareweaves does denim best imho

[/RG/ - Runway General No.11497695]

This year's Margiela was easily the best it's been in years.

[Anonymous No.11497696]

ill be dumping my favorite collection of this decade so far

thom browne fw12

[Anonymous No.11497704]

Did anyone see COS FW16?

Shit is beautiful

[Anonymous No.11497705]

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[Anonymous No.11497709]

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[Anonymous No.11497721]

>>11497714
the pubes here had me rolling

[Anonymous No.11497726]

>>11497721
the monochromatic colors were a great way to end it all

also, post your favorite collections anons. i would love to discover more designers

[Anonymous No.11497728]

>>11497696

FW12 was incredible, but I think I prefer FW14 a bit more. Definitely put more emphasis on creating incredible forms than a variety of interesting clothing (which he tends to do more in his spring shows anyway). I was floored when I first saw it.

[Anonymous No.11497730]

>>11497728

sdfgsdgjsdfgksjdhgkdhjgf

[Anonymous No.11497737]

>>11497728
technically without a doubt it was better but i just loved how lightheared fw12 was which made it take spot for me. the circus thematics here were really great and i loved how he followed through that theme with ss15 which was also a great collection

the man has made no bad show since 2007 and he never ceases to amaze me

[Anonymous No.11497744]

>>11497709
Wistfully gaze at the setting Mediterranean sun-core

[Anonymous No.11497747]

>>11497704
you would love chalayan's menswear anon

[Anonymous No.11497752]

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[Anonymous No.11497760]

>>11497737

Similar reason why I liked this year's show so much. Great subject matter, and he keeps getting more creative with materials and form as he goes on. Like you said, he's never really had a bad show, and there are incredible ones in there. I really liked FW15 as well, mostly because I also had the chance to see the Met exhibit it was inspired by.

On another note, Issey Miyake was incredible this year. Maybe I'm a basic fuckboy for wanting something that's reverberates so strongly with what his offerings have always been best known for, but it's probably the best Yusuke Takahashi has done at the house so far. Reminds me of the IM Plantation stuff from the 80s that I love so much.

[Anonymous No.11497763]

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[Anonymous No.11497772]

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[Anonymous No.11497777]

>>11497760
ayy liking thom browne and issey? you my nigga

yusuke-era menswear and miyamae-era womenswear is really great. nothing against fujiwara but the guy imho is best working at the various sublabels (bar fw11 ofc which is everything a tailor could ask for)

[Anonymous No.11497779]

>>11497704
>cos
ew

[Anonymous No.11497781]

>>11497777
forgot pic

also check out the latest homme plisse collection. i wanna cop everything there.

link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBac-lcyMhw

[chillness interests me No.11497799]

How do you guys feel about Sruli?
I've not had the chance to wear any of his pieces since they're too small for my big nig frame (although I passed up a chance to pick up one of his super long cardigans on grailed, which I somewhat regret), but I think his clothing is very good at combining more traditional and natural materials with really wild cuts to give off sort of an organic-futuristic vibe, sort of like Iceland in general, I guess.

I also quite like how he gives sourcing information for his fabrics as well as the story behind the clothes' inception. Makes it feel much more like art than simple clothes.

[Anonymous No.11497802]

>>11497777
>>11497781

Nice quads. Couldn't agree more.

I know Homme Plisse is mostly just there to make cash but goddamn if it isn't some of my favorite stuff. I will feel those miraculously dense pleats on my thighs one day...

[Anonymous No.11497814]

>>11497799
i love looking at his work and im afraid thats the most interaction it will get for me. he's like a hippie aitor throup to me in that both of their clothes seem to look best on installations and not in say someone wearing them outside for casual use

[Anonymous No.11497818]

yiqing yin couture ss16

best couture show that season fuck what anyone else says

[Anonymous No.11497820]

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[Anonymous No.11497828]

>>11497820
hnnnnnnnnnnnng these colors are so fucking good

its like rick and ann d fused into one collection

[Anonymous No.11497832]

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[Anonymous No.11497835]

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[chillness interests me No.11497836]

>>11497835
>those legs

[Anonymous No.11497838]

>>11497836
>not wanting heroin-core legs
top pleb

[chillness interests me No.11497846]

>>11497838
they look like my mother's legs
too skinny, too veiny, wonky colors

[Anonymous No.11497881]

>>11497747
>>11497752
>>11497763

very nice, thank you

[Anonymous No.11497885]

>>11497779

why?

that shit looks good, all that matters

[Anonymous No.11497889]

>>11497846
Pleb go back to /b/

[chillness interests me No.11497897]

>>11497889
you're really reaching, friend
anyway post more fashun

i'm not a huge fan of lemaire but he always puts out pretty solid "casual luxury" pieces

[chillness interests me No.11497903]

>>11497897
another

[Anonymous No.11497906]

>>11497885
>that shit looks good, all that matters
I refuse to support H&M

[Anonymous No.11497907]

>>11497885
garbage quality anon

[Anonymous No.11497911]

I loved gucci again this season, will dump some of my favorite looks.

Also thanks for making this thread, anon >>11497631
There's been shockingly few threads discussing ss17

[Anonymous No.11497917]

>>11497911
these loafers look amazing

[Anonymous No.11497921]

>>11497917
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.11497924]

>>11497911
we had a paris megathread back then

also ewww gucci

[Anonymous No.11497925]

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[Anonymous No.11497931]

>>11497924
>ewww gucci
sorry you don't like it but luckily fashion is subjective

[Anonymous No.11497947]

How does everyone feel about Gosha's show at Pitti Uomo? I personally loved aw16 but the general return to branded sportswear was a little disappointing.

[Anonymous No.11497966]

>>11497799

I loved Concentrated and wished that it had made it to production. He's a very friendly guy if you talk to him via email. I wore a suit of his (SR526, SR521) to a cousin's wedding earlier this year.

I like his pragmatic approach to construction; the way he designs on a half-size mannequin and scans the pattern to laser-cut full size versions is really clever, and I like his ecologically-conscious production. On the other hand, it's hard to tell how much of the message is tongue-in-cheek. Someone like Rick Owens is pretty frank about his designs and collections but Sruli's descriptions are really floral in ways that don't match the product.

[Anonymous No.11497984]

>>11497947

Gosha's a hack, been downhill for the past few years, but at least he was trying something new with tailoring. Didn't like most of the other pieces though.

[Anonymous No.11497993]

>>11497966
pic of suit anon?

[Anonymous No.11498016]

one show i really enjoyed was marni, i feel they are really tapping into that quirkyness the womenswear always had, but not so much the mens did, but still in a way thats much more refined to suit menswear
>>11497897
>>11497903
everything lemaire does i always want to buy it all, its perfect

[Anonymous No.11498022]

>>11498016
opening look was stunning, their colours are always spot on

[Anonymous No.11498024]

>>11498022
glasses are super cool too

[Anonymous No.11498047]

>>11498024
one collection you guys might have missed due to only being featured on their website was loewe
photography is on point as always

[Anonymous No.11498051]

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[Anonymous No.11498059]

>>11497993
They haven't put up their wedding photos yet and I don't have any photos of myself wearing it otherwise. This is the jacket; the pants are the same material and have a sweeping pleat design in the front. He's a really talented tailor, I didn't appreciate it until I saw the way the fabric was shaped until I saw it in person.

>>11497737
Thom Browne has been on a roll and his show is one of the ones I'm always excited to watch. I personally liked FW16 the most, the narrative of death was great and it reminded me of some of the more gothic Ann D collections.

[Anonymous No.11498065]

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[Anonymous No.11498083]

>>11497631
reminds me of this

[chillness interests me No.11498126]

I also thought the BBS collection was very cool. Love the colors

[chillness interests me No.11498132]

>>11498126
i really want this jacket

[Anonymous No.11498137]

I enjoyed Off-White's collection this season.

[chillness interests me No.11498138]

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[chillness interests me No.11498143]

>>11498138
especially love the choice of model on this one, as a closing look it really cements the rust theme

[Anonymous No.11498158]

>>11497631
>>11497645
I hope somebody was put in jail

[Anonymous No.11498196]

>>11498059
ohh the cut on the body of the jacket looks amazing. i may just try some shit from this guy

>>11498143
TELL ME ABOUT THE MASKED MAN, BANE

srsly tho colors here were amazing

[Anonymous No.11498375]

>>11497921
what a great fit

[Anonymous No.11498382]

>>11497645
leeches

[Anonymous No.11498424]

>>11498143
damn. this is absolutely incredible.

[Anonymous No.11498543]

>>11498016

This 1000x, Marni killed it this season. The color palate they use in both their men's and women's shows has always been one of my favorite. Their clothing is incredibly distinctive and I think the menswear is finally catching up to the womenswear in its identity.

>Their sandals from this season made me cum repeatedly.

[Anonymous No.11498589]

>>11497631
Yay you made the thread!

I adore the denim in OP pic, honestly have not paid any attention to Chris Shannon but I'm going to have to now looking at what you've posted here. Particularly the denim spray jacket in >>11497638 - caught my eye immediately!

>>11497695
I agree! Margiela this year was stunning, was really nice to see some progress for the house, looking forward to what the rest of the year holds for them.

Also, I've been getting into writing again lately and was thinking of possibly starting a 'designer masterclass' where I spoke on a particular designer maybe every fortnight or so; writing on their progression throughout the years and what they aim to do with fashion. I'll attempt to be unbiased as possible as I'm not trying to write a critique column here.
Would anyone be interested? I think first up I'll be doing Yohji solely because I'm ridiculously familiar with him but I'll definitely be looking at more obscure designers/houses in the future if people are interested enough to bother reading?

Attached pic is from Kenzo SS17. Personally loved this collection, the swathes of muted colours were balanced beautifully with Kenzo's trademark fluros. What'd everyone else think?

[Anonymous No.11498603]

A Song for the Mute absolutely killed SS17. Everything looks so damn comfy and so ready to wear. Great to see an Australian house producing stuff that is competitive internationally.
Honestly would probably buy every single piece shown in the collection, ah if I only I was made of money.

http://chasseurmagazine.com/2016/06/27/song-for-the-mute-2017-ss-collection/#

[Anonymous No.11498605]

>>11498603
Forgot pic.

[Anonymous No.11498609]

>>11498603
pic 16 is best imo

[Anonymous No.11498618]

>>11498609
This one?
Interesting to see how much of a resurgence loose tank tops are making, they've been a staple in virtually every collection this season

[Anonymous No.11498622]

>>11498618
yeah
yellow's my favorite color so i loved a lot of ss17 collections

[Anonymous No.11498625]

>>11497925
Gucci's ad campaign is on point this year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_PnNySsxg

[Anonymous No.11498633]

>>11498625
[Blows Bubbles]

But yeah, that was awesome, Gucci have been killing it lately - I don't even associate the label with old white women anymore. All jokes aside, any idea what this was made for? Can't imagine Gucci to be the label to run TV Ad campaigns?

[Anonymous No.11498640]

>>11498605
holy shit this is amazing

btw anyone got an idea w2c socks like this asides from the obvious song for the mute?

[Anonymous No.11498642]

>>11498589
I'd love to give that a read and I think a lot of other people would too! (Especially if they're beginners and don't really know "where to start" and how to learn about histories of different houses).

[Anonymous No.11498650]

>>11498603
Definitely agree. Certain pieces have caught my eye in the past, but I haven't followed the label too closely. Seeing SS17 has made me take another look at the previous seasons and I'm pretty much in love.

On another note, Ann Demeulemeester SS17 is fucking great. A real return to Ann era looks. Sebastien Meunier has really impressed me with this one. Love the embroidery.

http://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/spring-2017-menswear/ann-demeulemeester

[Anonymous No.11498651]

>>11498589
damn, i've been planning to do something like that for a while now. i've actually made some html files for a possible new wiki. it's pretty barebones right now but i can upload it here if you guys want to

i lack experience in european couture houses though and mainly know about asian designers and some uk designers so i can fill that niche

[Anonymous No.11498654]

>>11497911
>>11497921
>>11497925
>>11497931

This and FW16 women were the first seasons Michele brought other concepts to his revamped image of Gucci. I'm glad he's finally making progress in that regard: After the initial year or so where he seemed like a God for doing what he did, I thought it got very stale very quickly. Hope he follows suit and branches out more in the future.

[Anonymous No.11498669]

>>11498640
Glad you like it. Compression tights give an extremely similar look or any tights for that matter, shouldn't need to spend more than $20 or so!

>>11498650
Agreeing with what you say about Ann, the return of post apocalyptica medieval couture is upon us and oh boy am I excited

>>11498642
Good to hear! Hoping for it to be a designer 101 sort of gig so definitely beginner friendly and seeing as I've got no formal fashion training I would feel uncomfortable writing critique. I think I might start drafting tonight then.

And >>11498651 , who says we both can't write! Does a fashion wikia already exist because that's a gap definitely available to be filled if not. If we can manage to keep these threads going for the next week or so I say we start a discord or IRC room and we can chat in there.

[Anonymous No.11498671]

>>11498650
I had given up hope on seeing another season that looked like an Ann season. FW09 is one of my all-time favorites of anyone. What was the deal with FW09, anyways? Crust was probably one of Rick's best seasons, too, and everyone loves that Julius season.

>>11498603
I've got a pair of sneakers they did in a collab with KKTP and I wear them all the time. The destroyed sweater and lapel-less jackets are great, and I think they did a really good job presenting this season. Good photos really make a difference.

[Anonymous No.11498672]

>>11498589
The only designer I could talk about with confidence is Lang. I know he's retired but I think it's important for people to understand his work because it forms the basis of so much current fashion.

[Anonymous No.11498679]

>>11497631
>>11497638
>>11497645
What am I supposed to look out for, seems like a completely uninspired mix of jeans and sportswear.

[Anonymous No.11498692]

>>11498671
Don't forget N(N) AW09 as well! Something in the water that year, I agree. I think it was the nascent noir avant-garde clothing movement finding its own and carving out a niche among those in the know.

[Anonymous No.11498698]

>>11498679

>Looking at it and thinking he just made things that usually aren't denim out of denim

Sorry you don't like it

[Anonymous No.11498703]

>>11498669
thanks mate. i might just cop some bucket pants and maybe a blazer

wrt the fashion guide, just make it a barebones guide if possible. i would include stuff like key pieces, design philosophy, and key seasons and perhaps just that

i made a quick mock up html if ever
>inb4 whitespace

[Anonymous No.11498709]

What is the best place to find photos from older runway shows? Vogue's menswear offerings are pretty shit (only picked up most things within the past half decade if even that) and most other websites are one-offs. Furthermore, most forums that used to have photos up have dead links to a photobucket, flickr, or imgur that no longer exists. Where do you go for early 2000s, 90's, and 80's? Is it doomed to be endless browsing to find incomplete collections?

[Anonymous No.11498713]

>>11498709
depends on which designer but firstview has a large archive

80s pictures are harder to come by and typically require you to buy those photo books of a designer's work

[Anonymous No.11498714]

>>11498698
I dunno. I don't think it's fair to just throw around the 'you don't get it' talk. The burden is on you as the poster (assuming you posted those) to expound on what's interesting or influential about the collection. At least post what you like about it.

To me it seems like another uninspired homage to the '90's. The multiple waist thing has been done to death and never really looked cool. The third look you posted is some kind of Helmut Lang on a bad trip.

[Anonymous No.11498717]

>>11498709
As the other dude said, Firstview is your best bet for finding it all in one place. For older collections, you'll really have to dig. I've found personal blogs and tumblrs to be good sources, but you still have to piece together a lot of stuff.

[Anonymous No.11498733]

>>11498717
>>11498709
oh yeah archivings on tumblr has a sizeable, you know, archive

[Anonymous No.11498738]

>>11498714

"You don't like it" and "you don't get it" are different, but I did take that tone a bit.

I think a lot of the design is very clever. It isn't just making things out of denim because hurr trendy: it's taking something and using it to be everything it isn't supposed to be. The pics posted are probably the most palatable looks from the collection, but I think if you look at all 28 of the looks, you find some interesting things at work, especially in the way the clothes can be manipulated and used with each other in different ways.

[Anonymous No.11498746]

>>11498738

Another good example of this. Not to mention the prints in the collection are hilarious.

[Anonymous No.11498757]

Hey guys,
Here's a scaffold on what I'm hoping to write for a particular designer each fortnight or so. Anything else that you think I should add / take away?
Completely open to suggestions here as I've never attempted writing in this style before (though I have a large background in scientific writing) so hit me with whatever you'd like me to touch on.

Cheers!

[Anonymous No.11498782]

>>11498738
I'm not sure I understand what he's using denim for that he shouldn't be and what that would mean. He's got denim jackets, pants, and shorts. I see that he's putting the hardware and details from one thing onto another, but is there something deeper?

I'm gonna come back to Lang as an example because he was such a master. I can't find a good picture, but I have a pair of tuxedo pants from the AW96 collection that are produced in a nylon tracksuit-like material. Not only is the use of this fabric unconventional for tuxedo pants, but the juxtaposition of the casual fabric and the formal garment is what makes it work. Lang is able to subvert traditional menswear and make it casual enough for the street while also making a dated design cool again in the process.

Anyone can make clothing out of a different material but without a vision, it's just gonna come off as quirky.

[Anonymous No.11498812]

viktor & rolf ss16, womenswear

their runway stuff deserves more praise imo

[Anonymous No.11498813]

[Anonymous No.11498814]

[Anonymous No.11498816]

>>11498757
i was thinking of focusing less on their debut and more on the collections which exemplify their design philosophy the most as well as their essential runway shows. key pieces and motifs throughout the seasons is also a must

[Anonymous No.11498827]

>>11498812
>>11498813
>>11498814
Instantly makes me think of wedding cakes, everything looks like icing! The structure of the dresses is incredible though, any idea what the symbolism of the polo shirt mask in the first picture is meant to be?

[Anonymous No.11498831]

>>11498816
Oooh I like this much more than a debut section. I'll still briefly introduce who the designer is (i.e. upbringing & education) but will go straight on to talk about their motifs and recurring pieces - focusing more on the actual designs rather than the designer. Cheers for the suggestion mate

[Anonymous No.11498897]

>>11498698
>>11498738
You didn't take that tone a bit, you implied there was more to it than making things out of denim that aren't usually denim, and that I simply don't see it. So far you've not explained what that extra bit is. And I only really see "using it to be everything it isn't supposed to be" in the denim socks and let's be honest it just looks like you dropped your pants. I see what he's doing but the whole concept looks first semester as fuck.

[Anonymous No.11499203]

Hood By Air SS17 Lookbook

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Anyone have any idea how these guys are still managing to produce clothes? I really don't understand who's investing into HBA when literally all of their stuff is a repeat of the previous season just made to be even less functional. I usually go out of my way to attempt to find at least a single redeeming quality about everything but honestly I can't find anything to like about this collection - it's all shithouse.
Who is buying HBA clothing in the year of our lord 2016/17?

[Anonymous No.11499247]

>>11499203
gayniggers

[Anonymous No.11499269]

>>11498757
+ Recommended reading (tagline?)
+ If the designer is still alive, maybe send him an email? To get his opinion. To clear things up.


Unrelated, a stupid question. How do you keep track of runway shows? We could put that into the OP next time.

[Anonymous No.11499276]

>>11499203
Gay fetishists, srs

[Anonymous No.11499291]

>>11497907
>>11497906

agree 1000%

it is all just a scandinavian version of j crew and it is all shit

[Anonymous No.11499295]

>>11499269
style.com (Vogue owns this name? what?)

http://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/fall-2016-couture/schiaparelli/slideshow/collection#1

[Anonymous No.11499298]

>>11499295

[Anonymous No.11499302]

>>11499298
Schiaparelli fall 2016

[Anonymous No.11499311]

>>11499269
Definitely will add a recommend reading list, plus that also gives me an excuse to spend more money on designer's books
And by tagline I meant a sentence or two that attempts to somewhat wrap up a designer's ethos.
Will definitely try and get into contact with designer's, wasn't sure if that was something easy to do though. I guess if /fa/ can send a birthday letter to Rick and get him to respond then anything is possible hey?

>>11499276
Definitely seems that way by looking at the profiles of those who comment on their Instagram photos

[Anonymous No.11499312]

>>11499302

[Anonymous No.11499316]

>>11499312

[Anonymous No.11499322]

>>11499316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87jErmplUpA

[Anonymous No.11499326]

>>11497695
i liked it

[Anonymous No.11499404]

>>11498603
SFTM is goat, their needle punch jacket from a few years back is an easy grail status. Didn't care muxh for matching shorts though i have to admit.

Their drop crotch pants & sweatpants amongst other things was fantastic to see irl, really heavy and substantial with distinct shape. Kinda kicking myself when i didnt go in early enough to cop some from a store that was shutting down, they were sitting at like 80% off.

The footwear colabs with Andrew McDonald and KKTP were also neat

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[Anonymous No.11499896]

>>11497631
Those sports direct rips genuinely piss me off.
Christopher Shannon hasn't had anything to do with Sports Direct in his life. Since when was poverty chic.

[Anonymous No.11500055]

SIDE NOTE:
After y'all make the guides, i'll compile it to a new possible wiki.

When this thread 404s, someone call dibs on what designer they wish to talk about next

[Anonymous No.11500139]

>>11498703
>>11498757
i like it
looks like my website
(pic related)
>>11498022
this is stunning
>>11498589
i'd definitely read anything any of us will write up, i'm loving this thread, which is becoming a rare occurrence on this board.
>>11497631
Cottweiler stuck out for me, going to try and accumulate some more money to try and buy something.

[Anonymous No.11500172]

>>11500055
Where to contact you? Check the archive too. When STHLM and pals were making a new sticky they made some guides too. Also, my uni has a minor about fashion, so I'll email the coordinator about the course. Maybe I can get some books and/or articles out of it.

[Anonymous No.11500371]

>>11500172
just post it on the threads. im too noided to give out info

>>11500139
pretty dope site anon. i might just steal the design ;)

[Anonymous No.11500413]

I just realized that fashion shows aren't about making stuff people would actually wear and now I feel like a goon.

[Anonymous No.11500419]

>>11500413
agreed but its weird that they label the shit as "ready-to-wear"

[Anonymous No.11500452]

why didn't SLP have a show for SS17?

i was looking forward to seeing the Versace guy fuck up hedi's vision

[Anonymous No.11500895]

this is what this entire board should be, I came to /fa/ for the first time just to see if there would be a bunch of people talking about and posting streetwear shit where it shouldn't be (here) and naturally there was

[Anonymous No.11501073]

>>11500139
yes my boy
the last two seasons of cottweiler have been p good, i always get compliments on my cops from fw15/ss16

[Anonymous No.11501164]

>>11498827
to me (i didn't post the pics) it's cubism. just like the faces, the motif of shirt and skirt is repeated multiply times along her body, sometimes a skirts pleats look like the sleeve of the shirt beneath etc. as i see it, the shirt at the top is just another angle, this time very clearly recognizable as shirt - but still distorted: without a body inside - it's hilarious "icing on the cake!"

[Anonymous No.11501189]

i made the general wiki right now and all that's left is for people to add the designer guides. please note that the general guides there are very much works in progress

i know that my html isn't good but idgaf

link: http://www118.zippyshare.com/v/LE6XNxyQ/file.html

[Anonymous No.11501750]

>>11501189
Beautiful! If only we had someone that would update the fucking sticky

[Anonymous No.11501774]

>>11500413
Lmao yes they are for the most part
90% of the stuff in here is wearable and will have some stuff for sale depending how popular it is in pre sales
even some of the couture stuff will get sold

[Anonymous No.11501804]

When will SS17 stuff start making it to retail?

[Anonymous No.11501807]

>>11501804
usually i'd say around march to april of 2017

[Anonymous No.11501808]

>>11501804
6 months

[Anonymous No.11501811]

>>11501808
>>11501807
tfw i have to wait six months to get sick cops

[Anonymous No.11501817]

>>11501811
aw16 is coming in a few days or weeks anon. im sure there's some collections you enjoyed from that season

[Anonymous No.11501920]

>>11501811
means u can save up for them homie because if you're anything like me you live life perpetually broke

[Anonymous No.11501945]

>check twitter
>girl I follow retweets a picture of new gucci patched denim with "You could just make these at home, why pay a huge price"
>mfw

[Anonymous No.11502138]

cdg shirt ss17 was really cool

refined basics with the signature cdg twist. shirt is becoming my fav subline now

yt link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA37G-nISVU

[Anonymous No.11502246]

>>11497631
Dis nigga wearing jeenz ova jeenz

[Anonymous No.11502273]

>>11502246
GHETTO MEMES
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[Anonymous No.11502331]

>>11501945
she's literally right though
patchwork clothing is a meme, unless it's particularly inventive

[Anonymous No.11502349]

>>11500452
the in house team used hedi designs for ss17, vaccerello is next season

[Anonymous No.11502354]

omg please make a fashion wiki

[Anonymous No.11502379]

>>11497689
holy shit, fucking beautiful

[Anonymous No.11502408]

>>11498633
idk I was just looking up some stuff about petra collins and that poped up but damn who ever is CD and doing this rebranding wow.

I really only considered Gucci a flex brand from hood kids who need designer belts before, but I've in love now everything seems so timeless

[Anonymous No.11502417]

>>11501189
Put a how to pronounce thing on it for each brand

[Anonymous No.11502437]

>>11502417
ANN DEERMOLESTER

[Anonymous No.11502443]

Y-3 was pretty good

[Anonymous No.11502463]

Update on the Yohji 101 guide I'm writing, currently about 600 words in and only have just touched on his first collection and introduced who he is (i.e. a brief biography) and what his overlying design philosophies are so this is cruising to be a pretty in-depth read. Hopefully will be finished by tomorrow night really depends on how much time I'm going to have to spend hunting for the last decade or so of runway shows but shouldn't be too hard and I'm having so much fun doing it.
I think I'll publish through wordpress as I'm hoping to make this a regular blog-esque thing. Worth noting that I have no experience with blogging tools so if someone with experience has any better recommendations please let me know!
I will rewrite a condensed version to post onto the wiki if we manage to get one started up eventually but that will only take a few minutes of rewriting.

Anyway, here's the intro of the essay - let me know what you guys think.
Cheers!

PS. Anyone have any cool names to possibly name the series, I was thinking something like unlabeled but it feels much to generic

[Anonymous No.11502468]

>>11502463
Also I'm aware that this reads awfully dramatic, trust me the entire piece isn't like that I was just having some creative freedom whilst writing the intro

[Anonymous No.11502475]

>>11502463
intro seems to be a restatement of a single thought multiple times. you can cut it down to a sentence or two. be direct as much as possible and deal with specifics. this is /fa/ were making guides for, after all

also i that black quote is a literal meme. i would love to see you include his thoughts on his interview with that english professor and notebooks on cities and clothes. maybe even incude his book my dear bomb?

[Anonymous No.11502478]

>>11502437
WHat brand is this?

[Anonymous No.11502487]

>>11502475
As I said that piece is for my personal blog or whatever I'm attempting to start, I'll definitely cull the vast majority of it for the /fa/ wiki.
Aware of the meme nature of the black quote sort of serving as a placeholder at the minute, I do have several other quotes particularly his thoughts on womenswear and the female form.
For example; "“The more she hides and abandons her femininity, the more it emerges from the very heart of her existence. A pair of brilliantly cut cotton trousers can be more beautiful than a gorgeous silk gown.”

Will definitely be adding a reading list! Would you mind linking me to the interview with the professor, can't say I've seen it!

[Anonymous No.11502506]

>>11502487
its on youtube mate

[Anonymous No.11502770]

>>11502408
Why, and just when I thought everything was in my price range.

[Anonymous No.11502775]

>>11502770
The piece is ridiculously beautiful but 5k for a denim jacket is steep & unjustifiable imo, leather for 5k sure - looks like we'll both be waiting a couple of seasons to cop

[Anonymous No.11503301]

[Anonymous No.11503305]

>>11503301
Where do you put this in the wiki?

[Anonymous No.11503312]

>>11503305
I guess you can put it together with the YSL masterclass

[Anonymous No.11503317]

>>11503312
Should I show the name of the people who send me an email? It's still personal correspondence and I have not informed them about posting it here. Is it an issue?

[Anonymous No.11503388]

>>11503301
>>11503305
>>11503312
>>11503317


Wow, great research anon. I guess I was hasty in lambasting the dress.

[Anonymous No.11503454]

>>11499203
shit is weak, you can keep that

[Anonymous No.11503462]

>>11503301
>>11503305
>>11503305
>>11503312
do you have pics of the email by itself? i can attach it to the new wiki

[Anonymous No.11503474]

>>11503388
haha, that's what you get

>>11503462
What do you mean? I attached my email in the picture.

[Anonymous No.11503481]

>>11503474
i dont like the 4chan background in it, but eh. it should be fine

[Anonymous No.11503485]

>>11497747
>>11497752
damn those pants are straight fire

[Anonymous No.11503504]

>>11503481
If you want text only I'll upload it later with images and pdf files along with it. I like the blue background in stead of black and white. That way you make a reference to the board, to 4chan itself. You 'ground' it.

[Anonymous No.11503678]

>>11497631
What the fuck even is this. "I'm going to make the most abstract, absurd outfit I can think of the shock people, that's definitely fashion"

[Anonymous No.11505018]

>>11503678
If that's how you see that fit then you've got a long way ahead of you before you're going to appreciate runway. This type of fashion is mark akin to art than anything else, you're meant to take it at face value initially but then put some thought into it and think why the designer did what they did - they're clothes that a lot of the time are simply there to make you think

[Anonymous No.11505086]

>>11497730
>>11497925
>>11498640
sicc af

[STHLM !!6Gk3cvqPqbL No.11505154]

>>11500172
>they made some guides too

we never did. we just planned for it, but the entirety was too much work for too few people. yes, we asked for people to help us in some threads but it didn't work out.

>>11500371
>too noided

create an ad hoc tutanota and you'll have nothing to fear.

>>11501189
>my html isn't good

markdown makes everything so much easier.
the CSS is fine.

if you want layout suggestions, check the remnants from last year at:
https://github.com/effay/wiki

(especially PlannedWikiLayout.md)

>>11497730
PH'NGLUI MGLW'NAFH CTHULHU R'LYEH WGAH'NAGL FHTAGN

[Anonymous No.11505221]

>>11505154
i just realized that you guys are based on the irc

i'm cheeki-breeki there

[STHLM !!6Gk3cvqPqbL No.11505328]

>>11505221
afaik the only one involved in the past wiki/sticky undertaking & still active on the irc is based adrift

[Anonymous No.11505942]

>>11505328
aint imma hit up that dirty chink

[Anonymous No.11506007]

>>11502408
I seriously love what they're doing right now
their souvenir/bomber jackets are killer

[Anonymous No.11506440]

>>11502408
inb4 $5k

[Anonymous No.11507841]

>>11502770
>>11506440

You can't inb4 something that's already been said.

[Anonymous No.11507901]

I am a big fan of Dior's Fall 2012 Show. Kris twist on military uniforms isn't the flashiest and he kept mostly to officer green and black which really fit the theme he was going for. The bird pieces on the back end of the collection really cement this as one of his best shows in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.11507914]

Touching that risky SS Uniform silhouette.

[Anonymous No.11507920]

>>11507914

[Anonymous No.11507923]

>>11507920

[Anonymous No.11507925]

>>11507923

[Anonymous No.11507935]

>>11507925

[Anonymous No.11509341]

>>11507901
>>11507914
>>11507920
>>11507923
>>11507925
>>11507935
I agree entirely, this was Kris' defining show and as you said really cemented his style. I especially love the blend of the flashier officer jackets that look reserved for military presentations and what not with the much blander pieces that would look right at home covered in mud. The last two jackets are insane, appearing as simple camo upon first (thus keeping in line with the military theme) glance but then the forms of birds begin to pop out, such a great use of pattern.

[Anonymous No.11509385]

>>11507901
What the heck even happened to him, seems like he just fell off the face of the earth in the last few years

[Anonymous No.11509685]

>>11509385
i thought the last dior show was good

[Anonymous No.11509793]

>>11498132
Great fit and imo a very nice collection

[Anonymous No.11509833]

>>11502770
I found all the patches on etsy, and I kinda wanna DIY but I feel like that's tacky

[intern !!gcSycT7bcc4 No.11510027]

>>11497652
what about a cold wall?

>>11497921
trousers look so comfy 10/10

>>11498640
>>11498618
>>11498605
wow
i've never heard of them this is amazing

[Anonymous No.11510072]

>>11498625
fugggg

>tfw no qt gucci gf

[Anonymous No.11510100]

>>11509385
Mid 2015 Kris announced that he was taking a break from his self named brand to focus on his role with Dior. I have to say the last 2 shows are a big improvement from the previous 3. Actually I have been surprised that Dior Homme isn't talked about more on here. May be because they are more know for there female line but dior will always be the brand I think about first when it comes to french couture.

[Anonymous No.11510375]

>>11507914
>Touching that risky SS Uniform silhouette.
Where? Because the pants are slightly looser and there is some vague resemblance of a waist belt?

[Anonymous No.11510421]

>>11510375
Was just dumping some pics from the collection that I liked. From the small thumbnail on my computer it looked like the pants were tapered more. Sorry anon.

[Anonymous No.11510982]

>>11499865
biancas a peng famalam

[Anonymous No.11512315]

>>11510421
Apology accepted. Sorry I was being so harsh, I just see unfounded nazi comparisons.

[Anonymous No.11512321]

>>11512315
*all the time

[Anonymous No.11512824]

>>11497730
>>11497714
Do people actually wear this or is this kind of stuff just made for runways?

Yes I obviously don't know anything about fashion, I'm just curious.

[Anonymous No.11512841]

>>11512824

It's all conceptual, it's just showing exaggerated ideas and themes for the clothing that will eventually be sold.

[Anonymous No.11512862]

[Anonymous No.11512867]

[Anonymous No.11513517]

What is the name of that European model that was posted here a while back? He had pink hair that kinda looked like a mop and I think he was black.

[Anonymous No.11513536]

>>11513517
lil yachty

[Anonymous No.11513572]

>>11513536
No his hair was pink and his skin was lighter

[Anonymous No.11513594]

>>11513572
ecco2k?

[Anonymous No.11513785]

>>11513517
ecco for sure.

[Anonymous No.11514063]

>>11513594
>>11513785
he browsed /fa/? proof mates?

[Anonymous No.11514168]

>>11512824
Without the elephant head that's a pretty normal outfit.

>>11514063
He said "was posted".

[Anonymous No.11514372]

>>11498814
looks like aqua teen hunger force

[Anonymous No.11514419]

>>11509833
Maybe, probally

[Anonymous No.11514906]

>>11498589
I'd definitely read them, and it'd be nice to have information about designers all readily available in one place.

[Anonymous No.11515881]

>>11502775

Full shearling lining explains the price. Comparable cost to buying leather with those usually.

[Anonymous No.11515898]

>>11510100

Yeah, I've liked the new shows a lot. SS16 was very good (even though it felt a little Yohji with the zipper suits, they were coming from a different enough place)

[Anonymous No.11515905]

>>11515898
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.11516791]

Surely you guys can't be serious right?

Every single pic in this thread is terrible, embarrassing and hideous

[Anonymous No.11516817]

>>11516791
>shits on runway fashion
>on a fashion forum
this is like level 100 stupidity

[Anonymous No.11517114]

>>11516791
feel free to go back to your adidas thread

[Anonymous No.11518055]

ayy guys check out song for the mute's fw16 arrivals. pretty sick. navy-black combo is objectively the most effay color combo

https://www.instagram.com/p/BH3DKM_jDzC/

[Anonymous No.11518071]

>>11516791
>hurr nobody would wear this in real life xD xD

>I don't understand what runway shows are for

[Anonymous No.11518092]

>>11502443
they always have gorgeous set designs and runway shows

[Anonymous No.11518213]

>>11502246
BOIII out my thread boi

[Anonymous No.11518622]

>>11502443
zzzzzz

if y3 wasn't related to yohji by name people would shit on it

[Anonymous No.11519082]

>>11518622
I do feel as If some of the pieces over the years have been overly simple. Some even to the point that I felt as If he just grabbed some adidas items from the clearance section and sent someone down the runway (WTF was SS04). Y-3 is not even the only show pushing a tech theme but I would never shit on the line Yohji included or not. Too many jems.

[Anonymous No.11519143]

>>11512862
this is really nice

[Anonymous No.11520783]

>>11519082
my major gripe is that y3 is so far detached from the yohji vision that slapping his name on it seems disingenuous. in most of his interviews, he talks about clothes for the body particularly wrt the comfort of the clothes. y3 doesnt seem to follow this despite being an athletic brand. take the most popular y3 piece - qasas. they are the most uncomfortable sneakers to wear and in no world would the actual yohji yamamoto make those

[Anonymous No.11520815]

There should be a lot more of this threads :/
People who do them please continue.

[Anonymous No.11520906]

>>11520815
Planning on it, have had a lot of fun over the last few days posting in this thread - it's damn nice to have some discussion about the more interesting side of fashion

>>11520783
Y-3 Is an unapologetic cash grab. It's a diffusion label of a diffusion label and is aimed at a completely different audience compared to the audience that Yohji makes clothes for. Yohji has been quoted numerously saying that he makes clothes to hide the form, clothes which hide traditional beauty and instead allow for internal, individual beauty to shine. Y-3 in it's entirety does the opposite of that, producing tight fitting sportswear that exemplifies the form.
Honestly have no idea why Yohji let his name be attached to the label seeing as it seems so far detached from how he traditionally treats fashion. I know the dude loves money and is a bloody good businessman but Y-3 just seems like such a cop out.

[Anonymous No.11521081]

>>11520906
citation needed
Are there similar critiques elsewhere?
send a letter?

[Anonymous No.11521093]

>>11521081
http://hazine.com/portraits/label/yohji-yamamoto/
http://the-talks.com/interview/yohji-yamamoto/
>“For me, a woman who is absorbed in her work, who does not care about gaining one’s favor, strong yet subtle at the same time, is essentially more seductive. The more she hides and abandons her femininity, the more it emerges from the very heart of her existence. A pair of brilliantly cut cotton trousers can be more beautiful than a gorgeous silk gown.”

Hiding the human body's form was the entire premise of his debut collection and that same premise can still be seen in his more recent shows, it's just as an important motif of his runway shows as the colour black is.

If you want some further reading I'd read My Dear Bomb by Yohji or read/watch any of his many interviews, he's much less reclusive in regards to interviews when compared to many other high profile designers

[Anonymous No.11521150]

>>11521093
>debut
You mean Autums/Winter 1977-78 right? I'm trying to make a comparison picture to illustrate his quote more.

[Anonymous No.11521155]

>>11520906
>I know the dude loves money and is a bloody good businessman but Y-3 just seems like such a cop out.
errrr....

[Anonymous No.11521182]

>>11521150
Yeah '77, the show at Tokyo Bell Commons

[Anonymous No.11521184]

>>11521155
Yohji is an insane businessman, he pretty much single handedly restructured Y's to go from being millions in debt to turning a huge profit in only a couple of years

[Anonymous No.11521297]

>>11497670
Three ugly guys, unknown dude and Timberlake. I wonder how many girls cared about any of the other dudes.

[Anonymous No.11521302]

Do any of you actually unironically like even a single one of these fits? It all looks like bloody shit.

[Anonymous No.11521338]

>>11521302
Try thinking outside of your autism and learn to realize that different people like different things

[Anonymous No.11521342]

>>11521338
aka, yes some people actually unironically like some of these fits

[Anonymous No.11521352]

>>11521338
Seems like the people who'd like this are literally Autistic themselves. Or something worse... blind?

[Anonymous No.11521353]

>>11521342
Yep

[Anonymous No.11521360]

>>11521352
>Seems like the people who'd like this are literally Autistic themselves. Or something worse... blind?

That's exactly what I'm getting at with you.
The fact that you can't grip that other people like things you don't like is what gives off an autistic vibe.

By calling other people autistic (or even blind) for liking things you don't like, you make it apparent that you're unable to grasp basic social concepts such as "oh, this other person likes something I don't like and that's okay".

try to get over it. or just try to not express that you think other people are retarded because they like something you don't like. people will eventually like you more then.

[Anonymous No.11521374]

>>11521360
I am quite obviously mildly trolling you. However, all of these fits, and I mean literally all of them, are ugly as sin. Any person who actually wears this, deserves to be tortured, killed, maimed... you name it.

[Anonymous No.11521514]

>>11521374
Genuinely interested what a 10/10 ideal fit looks like in your eyes then, please post one! It's just odd to see someone on a fashion board with absolutely no interest in this style of clothing as you'd think to be here in the first place you'd need some semblance of interest in 'fashion' and runway falls well under that umbrella term.

However, regarding what you were saying about all these outfits looking shit - attractiveness is completely subjective and finding runway unappealing is an opinion you are entitled to. We're not here to try and change your mind.

[Anonymous No.11521552]

>>11518055
That link takes you to cdg :s

Pinstripes are cool. Was hoping to see more of pic related, but probably not till fw

[Anonymous No.11521570]

>>11521552
Posting more grails

UC earmuff maniac diaplex parka

[Anonymous No.11521573]

>>11497730
elephant fursuit

[Anonymous No.11521581]

>>11521570
Schneider rugs to riches collection was goat. Kicking myself i missed out on copping the pants

[Anonymous No.11521649]

>>11521374
Ah yes, you weren't being autistic and it was only an epic trolling. Great.

>Any person who actually wears this, deserves to be tortured, killed, maimed... you name it.

This was of course also a super-funny joke, because anything else would indicate some real mental issues. I guess we're all good, then.

[Anonymous No.11521675]

>>11521184
this. i would say y3 is a large part of how he bounced back from his bankruptcy as it only started popping post-yohji bankruptcy (around 2013). its like how i feel with cdg play and cdg. cdg is without a shred of doubt one of the greatest houses but cdg play serves as more or less a cash grab to perhaps fund his ventures

>>11521570
pic related is my grail

[Anonymous No.11521687]

>>11521093
Half of that is just Japanese culture desu.

[Anonymous No.11521703]

>>11521552
whoops here's the actual link: https://www.instagram.com/p/BH3ZPaoDiNu/

>>11521687
perhaps but yohji actually rationalizes it in a way that makes sense instead of taking it as fact.

also, his view is more nuanced. yohji does it in a way to celebrate women. his idea of clothing women to not reveal themselves is more or less a self-imposed restriction rather than one forced upon by society. wearing yohji always gives this sense of maturity and confidence i don't see with other brands and this is largely the reason why

watch his interview with that professor on youtube for more elaboration

[Anonymous No.11521934]

>>11497705
looks like the guy from Lightning Bolt

[Anonymous No.11521945]

>>11521374

[Anonymous No.11521960]

>>11497799
>traditional materials
>shark skin
>translucent leather
>his back skin

[Anonymous No.11521987]

>>11500895
<3

[Anonymous No.11521991]

>>11497799
Desperate midget.

[Anonymous No.11522033]

>>11498605
>>11498618
That feel when you go to school with this model and you're just being a useless piece of shit browsing /fa/

[Anonymous No.11522051]

>>11522033
what did he study mate?

[Anonymous No.11522181]

>>11522051
Film

[Anonymous No.11522233]

>>11522033
Don't be impressed by modelling, he's not actively doing anything. He's a cloth rack, making money sure but it's not like he's contributing to society or creating something.

[Anonymous No.11523259]

>>11522033
Don't be too upset, as >>11522233 said; being a model is much less romantic than it first appears. You're a living doll that is allowed absolutely no say in any of the shoots or shows you're involved in, you're a glorified clothing rack. On top of that, unless you're modelling for page spread advertisements in the likes of Louis Vuitton, Gucci, etc. you're making shit all money. Male modelling is great if you're wanting to make a break into the industry as you can find some great contacts but it's very draining as a career if you're a creative person as you have no say in anything - and most people who are interested in fashion (and modelling) are usually quite creative.

[Anonymous No.11523331]

yo faggots this thread is pretty full imma make a new one. lets keep this as a recurring thread if possible

[Anonymous No.11523339]

>>11497631
My mans wearin jeans ova jeans ova jeans ffs

[Anonymous No.11523349]

>>11523331
Okay, try and add some recommended reading and what not in the OP post if you can be bothered. I'll start constructing a pastebin in the next thread friendo

[Anonymous No.11523378]

>>11497670

>the way he's holding the watch

[Anonymous No.11523412]

new thread lads

>>11523354
>>11523354
>>11523354

[Anonymous No.11523425]

>>11498738

Link to all 28?