/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.9923123]

if you arent /og lang/
if you arent /vtg raf/
if you arent /kapital hype/

why, you're just trash son

[Anonymous No.9923130]

>>9923123
>making ebin /v/ -tier pics like this
pls just end your life pigfuck

[Anonymous No.9923134]

>>9923130
>filename
i didnt make you fucking incel faggot, its nice though.

newfag cucks are honestly embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.9923139]

>>9923123
the only thing wrong with the outfit on the right is the unshaven legs
maybe i would change the front of the shoes

[None !HATEDjgkJA No.9923143]

>>9923123

the only acceptable thing is vintage raf simons

kapital hype is the same as stephan schneider hype, an old brand just getting recognition by fuccbois who need to show off their new shit, true kapital hype was two years ago

[Anonymous No.9923149]

>>9923139
yeh thanks for your opinion but its worthless

[Anonymous No.9923152]

>>9923143
theres no breaks on the kapital train

also didnt know you still post

[Anonymous No.9923156]

>>9923152

[Anonymous No.9923157]

>>9923143
this pretty much

I do like Kapital and Lang quite a bit, but new Raf is not good

[Anonymous No.9923162]

>>9923156

[Anonymous No.9923167]

>>9923157
>I do like Kapital and Lang quite a bit, but new Raf is not good
i dont think anyone is arguing to the contrary my duder

[Anonymous No.9923173]

>>9923167

[Anonymous No.9923199]

>>9923173

[Anonymous No.9923203]

>>9923173
w2c!?

[Anonymous No.9923204]

>>9923199

[Anonymous No.9923207]

>>9923203
;^)

[Anonymous No.9923208]

wearing vintage raf/og lang really is like existing on another plane

[Anonymous No.9923210]

>>9923207

[Anonymous No.9923213]

>>9923143

schneider is dope tho

[Anonymous No.9923216]

>>9923208
amen, nice to see another acolyte.

[Anonymous No.9923218]

>>9923213
His seasons are pretty hit and miss imo, Frozen Waves, Rugs to Riches and Winter Weeds are gr8 though

[Anonymous No.9923221]

>>9923210

[Anonymous No.9923222]

>>9923218
Oh and At Both Ends

[Anonymous No.9923223]

>>9923221

[Anonymous No.9923225]

>>9923223

[Anonymous No.9923230]

>>9923225

[Anonymous No.9923232]

>tfw I don't even know what OP is talking about

[Anonymous No.9923237]

>>9923230

[Anonymous No.9923239]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/from-fashion-to-art-helmut-langs-second-act-1420552937
good interview with some great sentiments
and
>the appearance of simplicity can belie the complexity of thought and engineering that goes into it
something a lot of people on this board need to come to understand

[Anonymous No.9923240]

>>9923232
perfect example of the current state of /fa/

[Anonymous No.9923242]

>>9923239
i'm unable to make out what this is an image of

[Anonymous No.9923245]

>>9923242
helmut lang ss04 skirt

[Anonymous No.9923246]

>>9923239
thats one the best things about Lang, its outwardly minimalistic, but theres always design intricacies that make the wearer feel special, coupled with the flawless construction it makes lang's shit some of the most gratifying clothing you can wear.

rick owens said something similar, i forget exact quote.

[Anonymous No.9923260]

>>9923246
man i need this

[Anonymous No.9923262]

>>9923245
here it is in part of the ss04 campaign

[Anonymous No.9923264]

>>9923260

[Anonymous No.9923268]

>>9923239
but they already understand that ???? thats why minimalist dark fashion acne apc commong projects stan smith norse projects apc black jeans bomber so popular ????? huh ??????

??????????

[Anonymous No.9923271]

>>9923264

[Anonymous No.9923272]

>>9923268
i think it's more about a deeper understanding of the intricacies of design than an embrace of minimalism

[Anonymous No.9923274]

What's the best way to identify 'OG' Lang? I remember pigfuck talking a little bit about the labels, the black on the white etc but I'm not too sure, I don't want to ever purchase theory Helmut.

I know how to use y!jp, have the search term translations etc and know what proxy to use.

[Anonymous No.9923289]

>>9923268
they're popular because they're gateway fashion brands that are expensive enough to make the teenagers on here feel exclusive and more informed than their troglodyte friends, but cheap enough that they can afford them on their weekly allowance or their meager part time college job.

not that those brands are necessarily horrible, but dont presume /fa/s infatuation is rooted in anything more than their accessibility.

[Anonymous No.9923299]

>>9923274
helmut lang new york is always theory

helmut lang white box logo with jeans in top corner is og

black on black
white on white
rectangle tags

are og

occasionally you'll see some black on white or white on black rectangle tags as well, these can be OG too.

[Anonymous No.9923307]

>>9923274
the difference in design is usually glaringly obvious but for more simple things like jeans and truckers you can identify the real deal with either the country of origin or the tags, but i think theory lang is now using some european manufacturers for their higher end stuff. not sure if helmut ever manufactured in usa tbh, don't think so.

in general though

theory: tag like pic related or 'healmut lang new york', made in usa/china/whatever
og: tag like >>9923264 or a smaller tag with only the 'helmut lang' print, either black on white or white on black or in some cases leather. made in italy.

[Anonymous No.9923314]

i bought a lang shirt for 50cents at a thriftshop and i know nothing about it or its authenticity. can someone tell me more about it?

[Anonymous No.9923318]

>>9923314

[Anonymous No.9923320]

>>9923299

[Anonymous No.9923326]

>>9923314
its OG, an OG workshirt, worth around 50-120USD

nice find.

[Anonymous No.9923333]

>>9923326

[Anonymous No.9923351]

http://www.clashmusic.com/feature/teenage-riot-raf-simons
http://www.clashmusic.com/feature/teenage-riot-nicky-wire-qa

[Anonymous No.9923358]

>>9923351

[Anonymous No.9923362]

>>9923320
>>9923326
these jackets are beautiful

i want both of them, but i suppose they're impossible to find at this point? havent ever come across them on y!jp or even grailed for a ridiculous price

[Anonymous No.9923363]

>>9923351

[Anonymous No.9923368]

>>9923362
http://www.grailed.com/listings/83302-helmut-lang-a-w99-astro-biker-jacket

http://www.grailed.com/listings/41401-helmut-lang-a-w99-astro-biker-jacket

[Anonymous No.9923371]

>>9923362
fw99 jackets are still reasonably common in used condition, you just have to be patient enough to wait for what you're after in your size and desired colour. ebay/grailed/y!jp are always a good bet.

[Anonymous No.9923372]

>>9923368

[Anonymous No.9923378]

[Anonymous No.9923382]

>>9923378

[Anonymous No.9923383]

>>9923382

[Anonymous No.9923385]

[Anonymous No.9923398]

>>9923383

[Anonymous No.9923409]

>>9923299
>>9923307
thanks for the help, great thread
I'll give identifying a quick go

OG
http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d165804824
http://page21.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j331594995 (not 100% sure, dotted black on white?)
http://page12.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p468567570
http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b163072734

Theory
http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r127947561
http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b172868799
http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h201818901 (obvious)
http://page24.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q68417569 (made in china?)


the only two that threw me off were
http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m130011736 (looks too recent, rectangle though)
http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e161666727 (assumed this was OG, looks like shit though)

[Anonymous No.9923435]

>>9923409
>http://page21.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/j331594995
made in vietnam and actually says link theory on the tags
>http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b163072734
white/white tag, more recent logo. theory lang do a lot of asym shearling stuff like this.

[Anonymous No.9923446]

>>9923409
>http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e161666727
not og

>http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b163072734

og, even though it looks theory

[Anonymous No.9923463]

>>9923289
even in their vintage forms raf and helmut are completely accessible from a design standpoint though. Sure they may be priced out of most people's ranges but liking their stuff isn't exactly groundbreaking is it?

[Anonymous No.9923473]

>>9923435
>>9923446
>http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b163072734

aren't white/white always og?
thanks for the corrections though, I had a strong feeling the parka wasn't og, it looked like a Uniqlo x UC type of thing

[Anonymous No.9923486]

>>9923463
"vintage raf" and "og lang" cover enough material that i think it's hard to make a blanket statement about either of them.

low-rise jeans and snug t-shirts are definitely accessible, so are band tees and college sweatshirts but there's definitely a lot more to each respective career than these things.

personally i don't think accessibility has much to do with validity though.

>>9923473
>aren't white/white always og?
i'm not actually familiar with that tag in particular, might be from some point in the early 2000s but i really couldn't tell you for certain. important to note that it uses a different font though.

[Anonymous No.9923489]

>>9923123
>>9923123
whose the long necked kid at the bottom?

[Anonymous No.9923491]

>>9923489
lol
stance/liam

deceased

[Anonymous No.9923499]

>>9923473
>http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b163072734
It is OG

[Anonymous No.9923504]

>>9923463
in that post i was not talking about the aesthetic accessibility, it was quite clearly about economic accessibility in regards to the brands mentioned in the post i responded to.

[Anonymous No.9923506]

>>9923486
They're obviously some of the best designers of the past couple decades but all I'm saying is that I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone into fashion who doesn't love their old stuff these days. I guess I just take offence to the idea around here that they're a more refined taste when they're so mainstream now.

[Anonymous No.9923511]

>>9923506
there definitely is a odd juxtaposition between the people who generally believe vintage raf/og lang to be the epitome of taste in contemporary menswear like pigfuck and other people in this thread and the hypebeast kanye west/ian connor/big bang kiddies

[Anonymous No.9923513]

>>9923499
nice
what do you people do for shoes? I know the raf moto's are arguably his best but also incredibly difficult to find, the raf velcros (IT) are okay too

[sensei !PvFkRB1hk2 No.9923518]

>>9923245
I saw one of those skirts at Palais de La Porte Doree in Paris, they also displayed the show on video, it was pretty amazing

[Anonymous No.9923527]

>>9923513
i have a pair of white velcro highs but i dont really wear them, they're best styled like pic related though, with the hem warn over the top.

ive been wearing gosha x campers lows pretty much exclusively.

monochrome converse good for vintage raf look(he used them in all his shows until 05)

i need a good pair of substantial boots or derbies to accompany bulkier fits with HL bombers though, hard to find.

a pair of lang jungle boots would be perfect.

eurofag has like 2 or 3 pairs of motos that he is going to sell eventually,

[Anonymous No.9923540]

>>9923527
yeah, it always fucked me off when people like laserface get some new velcros and they immediately style them with skinny jeans and try to showcase them, it's not how Raf intended it
even in his most recent collections, the lowtops have had the hem touching

RW postman's might be good, I know pf was keen on them

[Anonymous No.9923550]

>>9923506
truth, and i think the resurgence of interest in both bodies of work (but especially raf's) in popular culture is definitely supportive of this. still i'm more or less glad that the work has maintained its momentum and made its way to a new audience. i find it fascinating that it's retained its full impact more than a decade on, something about it really resonates with people.

>>9923513
good boots or derbies from a good maker, made to order, preferably locally, just because i really hate not being able to try shoes on. not interested in vintage/used footwear for anything other than archive/collection appeal.

[Anonymous No.9923572]

>>9923540
yeh the quintessential clueless fuccboi dressed by the internet look is a pair of velcro highs(bonus points for portugal) with cuffed skinny jeans showcasing the hightop, guaranteed to look shit 100% of the time and obviously not at all how raf designed them to be worn.

i think the velcro was designed as a more refined, luxury replacement for the converse he was using, it was supposed to be a minimal no nonsense shoe that was comfy and easy to wear that didnt distract/contribute too much from the outfit, hence the hem of the pants always partially or fully covering the shoe when styled for the runway.

[Anonymous No.9923573]

>>9923550
I cant shake the feeling though that the newfound appreciation for his work stems from people being unwilling to experimenting with new designers, and instead defaulting to already proven brands.

Obviously that's not everyone as both designers have in a lot of ways not yet been replaced by the new blood, but with the constant recommendation and circulation of these two designers, especially online, I dunno. It seems like a lot of people prefer to know that they're clothes are important, rather than just well designed.

[Anonymous No.9923586]

>>9923573
i think the problem here is a lack of distinction between those that are regurgitating these recommendations out of conditioning, habit or trend (raf simmins rig owns) and those that have actually taken the time to discover the work for themselves. you're definitely correct about people being unwilling to experiment with new designers, i think part of it is that people get stuck in these online environments where opinions are endlessly recycled ad infinitum, i.e. here. though sometimes names will fade away and other times new names are introduced into the cycle.

[Anonymous No.9923593]

>>9923573
its more than likely the fact that they're obviously two of the most talented menswear designers in history and very little else compares for influence, design and quality.

that was then, when the two were at their zenith they at least had a few competitors in form people like hedi at dior, margiela, ann d.

but now? nothing comes close, not even themselves(neo raf for example) contemporary menswear is shit.

only remotely interesting designer is gosha as far as im concerned, and hes very inconsistent. raf at the stage of his career that gosha is currently at was putting out collections that defined and changed menswear in its entirety, gosha is obviously not, hes not worth mentioning in the same breathe and hes still the most exciting new talent of last 5 years.

for some the brands appeal may lie in its value as fashion, cultural and style currency(kanye west and the rest) but loving lang and raf is certainly nothing new for a lot of people, and many would wear the clothes whether they were valued at $500 or $1500

[Anonymous No.9923597]

>>9923573
>not yet been replaced by the new blood

does Craig Green come close?

[Anonymous No.9923598]

>>9923593
>contemporary menswear is shit

See now all I'm hearing is indifference to actual modern movements in fashion, sure there aren't any designers currently indicating the level of cultural impact raf or someone like mcqueen had as I find that there has been a large departure from showmanship in fashion as of late. But clothing is still being pushed into new and interesting areas by loads of talented people, hell there are still plenty of old designers still putting out amazing collections.

[Anonymous No.9923608]

>>9923597
idk I'm no expert but I would pick Craig s/s 15 over black palms or history of my world every day

[Anonymous No.9923613]

>>9923598
meh

raf and helmut makes clothes that look like how i want clothes to look.

rafs world is very much for the boy i wanna dress like and helmut's is for the man. thats it, it comes down to how they look to me personally, if someone comes along and fits that too then thatd be great, but so far nothing has.

[Anonymous No.9923614]

>>9923597
Yeah there's a reason he's making so many waves in the industry right now, everyone's expecting him to explode soon and I hope they're right the dude's a mad genius.

Part of me wishes he had a little more of the flair that makes people like old raf and mcqueen so memorable though. He's obviously very focussed purely on clothing, which is great and clothes are just clothes at the end of the day. But I think without a little something more he'll never make the same cultural impacts.

[Anonymous No.9923644]

>>9923613
That's perfectly valid to only like them, they're very unique, and hell, they basically make clothes exactly how I want clothes to be as well. I just get so annoyed when people go on about how boring fashion is now when really they just aren't looking far enough, contemporaries do exist that are doing similar things to them, we're even seeing some major designers who were mentored by raf pop up, and they're making some amazing things happen.

[Anonymous No.9923688]

>>9923614
>He's obviously very focussed purely on clothing, which is great and clothes are just clothes at the end of the day

i think that's exactly it really. raf was never truly about clothes so much as he was these broader feelings of isolation, independence, brotherhood and tribalism, interpreted by us through the music, cultures, young men, youthful rebellion and uniform. they were given modern context rather than simply being referenced in nostalgia. the magic of raf is that the clothes are the medium and not the end artistic product, though in many cases they managed to be both.

[Anonymous No.9923876]

this is the best thread in months

[poly No.9924148]

>>9923123
woah, someone saved my OC :')

[Anonymous No.9926314]

>>9923876
seriously

[Smorker No.9926362]

N e 1 wanna sell me a bullet proof vest for 600$ maybe or also pic related for 450
46 / 48 contact emoburger on grailed thanks

[Anonymous No.9926724]

>>9926362
you wont get a bp vest for that cheap and STILL sweater would probs go for 600 atm, they're rare though, might see 1-3 a year.

[Smorker No.9926791]

>>9926724
RIP me

[Anonymous No.9927843]

>implying this thread is allowed to die before hitting post limit

[Anonymous No.9927853]

pigfuck is a bow legged autismo

[Anonymous No.9927878]

>>9927853
>bow legged

thats a new one

[Anonymous No.9927966]

[Anonymous No.9927974]

[Anonymous No.9927976]

>>9923149
you know whats funny dude
i believe raf dislikes people like you yet you suck his cock like an autistic gay man

[Anonymous No.9927981]

[Anonymous No.9927987]

[Anonymous No.9928032]

>>9923540
>>9923572
>it's not how Raf intended it

Could you explain how they're meant to be worn?
I hate skinny jeans and would like further options to go with high tops (not Raf's specifically for when I get some eventually.

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928040]

>>9928032
see

this pic and post
>>9923527

and pic related


hem goes over the top, covering majority of the high body.

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928047]

just look at aw05, ss05 and ss06, all shows feature the velcro highs on the runway.

http://firstview.com/alpha_list.php?type=designer&deslist=1&s=raf+simons#

[Anonymous No.9928049]

>>9928040
thanks

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928054]

>>9928040
speaking of ss05, easily one of raf's best collections, criminally underrated as well.

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928058]

>>9928054

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928063]

>>9928058

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928067]

>>9928063

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928081]

>>9928067

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928086]

>>9928081
finally got this sweater

[Anonymous No.9928090]

>>9928054
>>9928058
>>9928063
>>9928067
>>9928081
would all look collectively better if the models were black

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928099]

>>9928090
you know what they say about putting lipstick on a pig? same thing applies to coons.

[Anonymous No.9928103]

>>9928099
naw but these white models all look like try-hard wiggers when they wear raf

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928105]

>>9928103
heres your reply

[Anonymous No.9928107]

>>9928103
raf simons' clothing is made explicitly for pretty young white boys

[Anonymous No.9928122]

>>9928107
uh huh

[Anonymous No.9928127]

>>9928122
that thing is hideous

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928134]

>>9928122

[Anonymous No.9928135]

i find it funny how there is a direct correlation between being a cuckold and liking raf
>>9928107
this only confirms it
those young boys grow up and end up getting cucked when they are not pretty anymore

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928140]

>>9928122
>ugly, legitimately offensive looking ape
>wearing ugly, legitimately offensive neo raf

nothing out of the ordinary here

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928147]

>>9928122
i seriously cant stop looking at this things face, it looks like a dog or alien or something. nigger culture is honestly so perverse and repugnant, its like they subconsciously know they're ugly and do whatever they can to exasperate the situation with gaudy hideousness.

[Anonymous No.9928152]

>>9928147
could you imagine waking up in the morning, washing your hair and it still being dirty

then washing your face and it too still being dirty

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928156]

>>9928147
but for real what is this thing

the levels of social conditioning and brainwashing required to suppress the natural revulsion one feels when looking at something like this is really something.

[Anonymous No.9928173]

>>9928156
lol just pig ur such a hipster. "UMG VINTAGE RAF SO VINTAGEEEE"

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928177]

>>9928173
someone shouldve told that manlet chimp raf by raf aint worth diddly squat hehe

this is why niggers will never get anywhere, too dumb

[Anonymous No.9928185]

>>9928177
but raf collabed with A$AP

[Anonymous No.9928186]

>>9928177
clothes are more than monetary value

tuck your nose in schlomo

[Anonymous No.9928193]

>>9928177
>someone shouldve told that manlet chimp raf by raf aint worth diddly squat hehe

shoulda told him too

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928201]

>>9928185
he didnt actually, but raf does a lot of gay shit these days, doesnt matter to me, i have no personal attachment to the man.

you see nigger, you can like what someone does(or did in this case,) without subscribing to a cult of personality. niggers are like fangirls in this sense, they fetishize things to a pathological extent - a very simple minded race.

>>9928193
none of that is raf by raf

[Anonymous No.9928202]

>>9928099
>1776+239
>still racist

[Anonymous No.9928278]

>>9923274
>>9923299
>>9923307
I'll elaborate on this for funsies.
Very early Helmut uses a simple black on white label reading Helmut Lang.
Most late 90's Helmut uses the iconic military style name tag labels, sometimes with the year of production included.
In the later years he had a few different simple labels all saying simply Helmut Lang.
The black on white and white on black labels designate the mass-market lower priced line.
The black on black and white on white labels designate the higher end products.
The made to measure stuff uses black on black labels and says 'Made to Measure' on it as well as Helmut Lang New York.
Bags and pouches usually bear a metal tag reading simply Helmut Lang or Helmut Lang Jeans.
Very early Helmut Lang garments were made in Austria.
Most stuff was made in Italy. A few things were made in Paris.
Some of the m2m stuff may have been made in-house in New York.

Post-Helmut Theory uses a few different labels as well. I'm not as knowledgable on this stuff, but I'll make an attempt.
Earlier Theory labels were larger, black on white, and had more text. Some stuff was made in Japan.
Most Theory stuff uses black on white labels reading just Helmut Lang. The stuff is primarily made in China and Southeast Asia. Some things (I think mostly denim) are made in Japan.
Most recently, garments use a three part label. The main label reads Helmut Lang or Helmut Lang New York (Theory is based in NY). Two smaller labels attached to the main label give the country of manufacture and the size.

[Anonymous No.9928331]

>>9928278
The labels are a good way to distinguish OG Helmut from new but mostly it's in the design. Helmut's designs are instantly recognizable for his idiosyncratic take on menswear, subtle manipulations, and luxurious but understated details. The materials are all top notch, from nylon to cotton. Nearly all of his pants have a button fly with an additional waist button. The jackets often include elastic and d-ring straps for better fit and an interesting hanging detail. A common twist on a normal pant or jacket is the addition of leather, either in perpendicular strips or as sleeve sections. Hanging cloth straps are common on both mens and womens garments as well as cutouts on elbows and shoulders. Everything is minimally designed but with attention to every detail.

Helmut's design sense and vision are pretty evident in his own work. After he left the label, it was turned into a much more generic mid-high end womens label. The looks are much more focused on asymmetry and drapes. The designs are minimal but lack the small details that characterized Helmut's work.

The Helmut Lang menswear line was revived much more recently and is currently designed by Alexandre Plokhov, well known for his Cloak label with Robert Geller and his eponymous label.

[Anonymous No.9928362]

>>9928173
>tfw i couldve purchased this hoodie for $90 and resold it for probably $200+

[Anonymous No.9928365]

>>9928202
racism isn't that bad, what I dont understand is his hate for black people?
for fuck sake pigfuck you live in australia,

the real enemy is the gooks, buying up all the property, spreading like cancer, and bit by bit killing the cities

pauline hanson was actually onto something

[Anonymous No.9928370]

>>9923473
>http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/b163072734
That's an interesting one. It's definitely OG Helmut. The label and Made in Italy area a dead giveaway, but it's not a jacket I'm familiar with. The design, as someone pointed out, is a bit more in line with Theory's current output. Cool find from the later years that shows the direction that Helmut was moving in. I really like the hood stowing system that doubles as a padded collar.

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928374]

>>9928362
no one wants raf by raf, regardless of if some no name coon wore it.

>>9928365
why do you assume the two are mutually exclusive? chinese ownership of aus is a problem, as are niggers, as are muslims, and the grand architect of it all, the jew.

>>9928370
helmut lang did some downright hideous shit in his last collection that was semi unreleased, aw05.

i think theory followed a lot of the blueprints he laid down in that season and ran with it ever since.

check this weird piece from aw05, very theory-esque but apparently helmut designed.

http://endyma.com/collections/helmut-lang/products/2005-wool-felt-double-breasted-bomber-coat-with-oversized-lapels

[Anonymous No.9928400]

>>9928374
Yeah, that's crazy.
Looks like something Plokhov would design.

[JUST PIG FUCK MY SHIT UP No.9928417]

>>9928400
also, while we're on the subject of ugly but historically interesting lang shit. this super early piece from when production was still i austria is pretty funny, some strong elton john, beatles, nautical overtones with this one.

a lot of hl is timeless, but this is definitely dated as fuck, must be late 80's.

[Anonymous No.9928418]

>>9928374
different guy but it's not that the two aren't mutually exclusive, it's that black people aren't an immediate issue for an australian. problems with middle easteners and asians, on the other hand, are relevant to you

[Anonymous No.9928422]

>>9928417
I believe it's influenced by traditional Austrian/german hunting garb. It's not so stylish these days, but it makes sense that he was riffing on the culture he grew up around.

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>>9928417

>>9928418
yeh super weird that i care about what affects my white brothers and sisters in US and EU, right? its about the white race, not the australian anglo race.

also most of the anti nigger rhetoric is in response to the nigger posting on /fa/, rare to see chinese shitposting chinese celebrities everywhere. also, a lot of the kids on fah have been conditioned to be liberal cuck good goys and i have to spoonfeed them and wean them off cuckoldry, starting with niggers is an obvious and easy means of doing this.

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>>9928422
yeh, good eye, here is closeup of the details.