LEATHER GENERAL

[Anonymous No.9242509]

Let's try something new /fa/.
Discuss wallets, jackets, shoes, anything leather.

[Anonymous No.9242513]

leather soles are the worst

[Anonymous No.9242519]

Recently found out that leather jackets are surprisingly easy to wear, pic related, I got this old double rider kicked down to me recently (I know this doesn't really show it off well, I just thought the leather looked pretty here.)

Makes me reconsider getting a Rick Stooges at some point.

[Anonymous No.9242524]

>>9242513
I've never heard of leather soles on shoes, what even happens there?

[Anonymous No.9242528]

>>9242524
Seriously? It's present in most decent to high tier traditional styles of shoes/boots.

[Anonymous No.9242529]

>>9242513
Yeah, my Guidis are a slipping hazard man.

[Anonymous No.9242535]

>>9242513
>>9242524
>>9242528
there's no such thing as leather soles per say
the layers of the shoe between the shoe and the sole is usually leather but never the sole itself.

[Anonymous No.9242538]

>>9242524
it's a traditional artifact, it actually has no function/position in (utalitarian) society

you literally get the leather soles knowing full well they are completely dysfunctional on most terrain, slightly uncomfortable and need to be resoled immediately (before moulding and wearing too far into the sole)

tl;dr; nothing of interest happens and you have to spend $25~ soling the shoes yourself.

[Anonymous No.9242541]

>>9242535
Yes, you can get leather (as in the animal hide, tanned and dyed) as a sole.
and at times, like in the case of augusta the sole itself may be built up of multiple layers of leather

[Anonymous No.9242546]

>>9242535
looks like leather to me

[Anonymous No.9242547]

>>9242519
My buddy has a sick leather jacket that he thrifted or some shit. He always thought it looked stupid on him, but I had him try it on and he looked badass. I convinced him to start wearing it again and now he gets mad compliments on it.

I'm considering a leather jacket, but it'd have to be the perfect one if I'm gonna spend the cash.

[Anonymous No.9242559]

somebody say leather?

[Anonymous No.9242563]

>tfw your dick ovens jacket will never have cuffs this nice

[Anonymous No.9242566]

>>9242559
I have a hard time believing that it doesn't look like shit in anything but well lit advertising photographs. Any more pictures of it?

[Anonymous No.9242570]

>>9242563
why the fuck is the hem gathering?

did this dude throw it into a washing machine?

[Anonymous No.9242586]

>>9242570

it's not a hem dude. their cuffs are very intricate.

see here for example

[Anonymous No.9242590]

>>9242566

It's from last year's collection so there aren't many pictures floating around anymore.

I'm not sure what you're referring to exactly so I can't really comment

[Anonymous No.9242594]

>>9242570
I'd say it's because there's an elastic band sewn between the layers of leather. I think his point was that Rick leathers don't use more "classic" features and therefore won't ever be so beautiful. But, eh, different folks different folds, I think elasticized leather looks awful personally.

[Anonymous No.9242600]

>>9242586
I'm aware
i mean hem as in the visual end of the sleeve

but maybe i perverted it, as the leather ends beneath the sleeve...the real hem, etc.

i don't think it's very intricate, i think it's just two threads pulls the leather so that it gathers (sort of uniformly).

[Anonymous No.9242602]

>>9242590
It just looks gaudy and unrefined imo, the leather looks too smooth, especially to be in white. Not to mention the chest details are reminiscent of 80's action hero styles. The whole thing comes off as tasteless to me.

[Anonymous No.9242620]

>>9242594

There's no elastic in the cuffs. The tension in the fabric is created purely by a special cross-stitching pattern that uses the resistance of the leather itself to produce an elastic effect.

>>9242600

look at one of them up close and you will see that it is a most intricate process of stitching and cross-stitching

>>9242602

some people like smooth leathers, some people don't. everything is a matter of taste. construction and material-wise there is nothing better.

[Anonymous No.9242630]

I agree that smooth leather looks better in a dark color

[Anonymous No.9242641]

Who invented the Perfecto? I've seen it done by a bunch of designers.

[Anonymous No.9242652]

>>9242641
I can't say for sure, but if I had to make an educated guess I've say it probably came about in the early 1900's as auto racing became more popular, especially in Europe. I imagine it was just viewed as gear until it became casual wear, I would bet it was a little while before any fashion house touched the idea.

[Anonymous No.9242654]

>>9242641
Schott

[Anonymous No.9242657]

>>9242654
I have a 618. It's fucking tight.

[Anonymous No.9242686]

>>9242529
i wear mine to work a lot and ive lost count of all the times ive nearly shat myself from almost slips ive jesus christ


>>9242630
i used to avoid "classic" full grain leather jackets and went for blistered until i got a rick stooges awhile ago in smooth fg lamb im hooked

i love that slick sleazy look

[Anonymous No.9242941]

>>9242538
Sole protectors on leather soled shoes, yay/nay? Some say it makes resoling shoes harder and makes the shoe less breathable? Anyone can confirm?

[Anonymous No.9242949]

>>9242941
sole protectors? like those caps they add on the end?
slough off the entire leather sole and replace it with a rubber, the leather sole is not meant for extensive wears (beyond a week) and cultures mould pretty easy

the choice is; do you want a sole which doesn't disintegrate? get it resoled.
you don't care and would like to observe the holistic fungi communities flourish as they consume that delicious keratin? don't resole

[Anonymous No.9244194]

Perhaps this is a stupid question, but is there any way to "iron" leather? I have an extremely expensive soft lambskin button-down shirt, but it gets a little bunched up in the elbow area of the sleeves and creates creases there. Now maybe I can't take a clothes iron to it, but is there any way to smooth them out a bit?

[Anonymous No.9244200]

Leather's fuckin weird, man. Like, it's the skin of an animal. Would you wear a person's skin? It's basically the same thing.

[Anonymous No.9244205]

>>9244200
>not having sruli recht ring
>2014
kek stay pleb m8

[Anonymous No.9244216]

>>9242513
That's why you resole

[Anonymous No.9244219]

>>9242949
re-soled dress shoes look trashy tho

[Anonymous No.9244223]

>>9242535
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Anonymous No.9244237]

>>9242949
>beyond a week
you're completely wrong. Are you a mountain trekker or something?

[Anonymous No.9244238]

>>9244200
Not really. Leather/hide is used to keep us warm, and we have used it for warmth since forever. If you're going to kill an animal and eat its meat, why not use the other parts of the animal to your advantage?

Think next time before you post.

[Anonymous No.9244240]

>>9244238
Why's it matter how long people have been doing it? It doesn't change the reality of what it is. And I don't eat meat, so.

[Anonymous No.9244246]

>>9244240
do you still wear wool or is that also off limits? not comparing it to leather just wondering.

[Anonymous No.9244248]

help me out here uys. Lookin for a nice leather sneaker or derby only caviat is it has to be an offwhite color. Was thinking about ramones but idk really, oh and no cps

[Anonymous No.9244255]

>>9244246
I don't normally wear wool, though that's less to do with it being weird and more to do with not caring for it as a material. The Idea of wearing wool or hair in general is less weird to me than wearing skin, though.

[Anonymous No.9244349]

>>9244194

I wouldn't recommend using an iron. Lambskin is organic, you could easily singe the skin and ruin the shirt.

[Anonymous No.9244437]

>>9244255
I'm also a vegetarian (for ethical reasons) and see owning leather as fine. In some cases it drives the killing but it lasts so damn long that there is definitely a bit of a give and take.

Just don't buy mall tier shit that will break and do your best to care for your leather. Humans own and dictate the fucking planet, dont forget that

[Anonymous No.9245312]

>>9244437
>for ethical reasons
>humans own and dictate the planet

Captain Planet is displeased

[Anonymous No.9245319]

>>9244238
Meat cows and leather cows are not the same thing, dumbass. Leather should be repurposed, phased out as a capitalized good, and become a scarce resource gleaned from animals that die of natural causes. Enslaving species and killing them for their skin is not /fa/.

[Anonymous No.9245351]

>>9242949

>a week

Do you drag your shoes across a belt sander every morning.

I have to wear dress shoes for work everyday and after five years none of my three Santoni's have had to be resoled once.

[Anonymous No.9245357]

>>9244216
You do know that pic is photo shopped, right?

[Anonymous No.9245366]

>>9245357
What does that have to do with anything?

[Anonymous No.9245386]

>>9245351
shit leather soles.

[Anonymous No.9245567]

>>9245319
Yeah but money.
All your dreams and ideals will never come true just because big companies earn money by selling meat and leather.

[Anonymous No.9245572]

>>9245567
to refuse patronage means they also lose some profit, even if it's truly unnoticeable it's a true difference.

it should also be noted... MOST commercial leather is a byproduct of meta consumption, which drives the cattle slaughter etc, the hide is secondary.

[Anonymous No.9245582]

>>9245572
Some profit? It's not even noticeable. Just all the fast foods in the world are enough to make those industries prosper and we know people will always go eat at Mc Donalds. Because fatasses.

[Anonymous No.9245589]

are slp/balmain leathers any good? they worth the 2x markup over rick leathers?

[Anonymous No.9245595]

>>9245589
No it's just the brand you're paying.
All hail Ricardo.

[Anonymous No.9245602]

>>9245582
it's a real difference (in profit subtraction), that's irrefutable.
but there really isn't any way of challenging 'because fatasses'

if the consumership didn't matter then fast food companies wouldn't advertise so aggressively... because under that assumption they would already have a total monopoly... and for the sake of profits that expense wouldn't make sense.

[Anonymous No.9245604]

>>9245595
ok thanks
so i should probably stick to rick/julius jackets then?
I'm new to leather jackets, gonna go pick one up this next week and was gonna do some designer shopping to check em out

[Anonymous No.9245611]

>>9245604
there's no going wrong with rick.

[Anonymous No.9245627]

>>9245602
They keep making ads because it's important for the image of the company but it's not really useful anymore. They are everywhere, in everybody's mind. They have a total monopoly, they are in every city in the world. (almost)
I don't think that industry could ever collapse, the only "solution" is the extinction of all meaty species.

[Anonymous No.9245641]

>>9245611
cheers, thanks

[Anonymous No.9245646]

>>9245627
the purpose of fastfood advertisements is to construct an image?
but then why do they also celebrate the price, limited time offers, and potential value meals alongside prices of burgers?
surely they could all be left out and just images of burgers and lettuce flying across the screen would then be enough if it were all about image.

Being aware of something != surrendering or being involved in related regime
a market monopolgy, in the case of fast food, would mean everyone is only consuming products from the fast food companies cache and never anything else, and that isn't true.
because i'm eating plain yoghurt and garden grown blueberries for breakfast.

there are synthetic meats.

[Anonymous No.9245675]

>>9245646
They are "friendly" and cheap. They make even cheaper offers so people eat even more of their shit. Even if you and I don't eat there, they don't care, their fast foods are always full, open 24/24.
Big groups like pepsico, coca cola etc.. have cereal, yoghurt brands and all, they control all the food brands so if you don't eat at mcdonalds, if you buy some Danone, Nestlé stuff, you're also paying them. It's endless m8.
I may be overly tragic but as long as capitalism and money are here, they'll be here and people will eat shit meat and wear leather.

[cop 3 v 3 No.9245679]

>>9245646
What are theses. look great but heavy ash.

question, why do some carpe diem shoes have the cool metal thing on the bottom and others don't, what does that signify ?

[Anonymous No.9245681]

I love this from Acne. Gonna save up for it and hopefully cop it on sale next summer.

[Anonymous No.9245683]

whats worse?
leather sole or wooden sole?

>tile ramps are Satan's creation

[Anonymous No.9245685]

>>9245675
i really don't have time for this but it's really easy to break your conditions, you just sound like a tragically poorly read cynical leftist or something

[Anonymous No.9245691]

>>9245685
Keep being optimist m8. It's nice to see it.

[Anonymous No.9245694]

>>9245681

[Anonymous No.9245696]

W2c perforated leather/suede shirt?

[Anonymous No.9245707]

>>9245679
m_moria
limited run by altieri, shown in DSM London and in Tokyo
http://www.sz-mag.com/news/2012/10/memoria-by-maurizio-altieri/

shoes were around 3k USD

metal at the bottom
it's sterling silver iirc, with the carpe diem kthulu insignia, pretty heavy, lost mine earlier this year (slipped right out)
typically models before 2002 under carpe diem might have the insignia while those after will not.

i don't know if it signifies much else than a change in relationship between altieri and chrome hearts.

[Anonymous No.9245713]

>>9245683
both worse than rubber imo, like significantly worse
unless you're someone who can not operate without 'muh genuine product unaltered' i don't think it even matters

just get them resoled and save yourself the broken pelvis.

>>9245691
*realist.

[cop 3 v 3 No.9245727]

>>9245707
Thanks, thought that's what it was. Been trying to get a pair for a while, hopefully they can accommodate my flat feet

[Anonymous No.9245729]

>>9245713
i think the image is altieri himself

tophat (1+1=3, company names, connotations of corporate entity, ACTUALLY direct reference to Orwell's 1984 - 'the men with the tophat' arbiter of corruption and evil etc), dreads, lips, cigarette (or something out of his mouth), two eyes(maybe spectacles), sun rise/set

this can be read in a lot of ways if you're familiar w/ the house.

[Anonymous No.9245805]

>>9242630
>you will never own a jacket this nice
;_;

[Anonymous No.9245838]

I didn't want to make a thread so I'll ask here

the burgundy brogues in the front left, I've ground the soles to shit and a simple heel replacement won't suffice, the both soles must be replaced. Instead of leather sole replacements I've been entertaining the notion of Vibram soles instead, as the shoes are the right color to contrast the white (and they'd be more comfortable). Would this be a good idea? What is y'all's collective experience with re-soling shoes, and what should I ask for to the cobbler in mind about this?

[Anonymous No.9245840]

>>9245838
*front right

[Anonymous No.9245846]

>>9245838
ask a cobbler and discuss your options
bring the shoes in.

[Anonymous No.9245851]

>>9245846
There are different grades of sole replacement I'm sure, right? I've been for heel replacements but never entire sole replacements, shouldn't a reasonable price be between $50 and $70?

[Anonymous No.9245862]

>>9245851
i don't know
doesn't necessarily mean your cobbler has those options available

when i get my shoes resoled (heel included, black vibram, 3mm~) it costs 40USD

talk to your cobbler about what you want and your options, bring the shoes in.

[Anonymous No.9246151]

I'm considering buying a slp jacket, is there anywhere else I can get a good one but at a lower price or should I just go slp?

[Anonymous No.9246161]

Leather is tanned with chromium, which is bad for your skin. Enjoy having rashes and wrinkles early on.

[Anonymous No.9246169]

>>9246161
JOKES ON YOU
I WON'T LIVE LONG ENOUGH FOR WRINKLES!

[Anonymous No.9246180]

>>9246161
In what world is leather constantly in contact with your skin, it's either lined or you have some cloth between skin and leather.

Fucking mongoloid

[Anonymous No.9246200]

>>9242547
just fyi, if you find a leather jacket while shopping in a mall and you think it is perfect, fucking buy it. That shit will not be there for long, I guarantee it.

[Anonymous No.9246477]

Where can I buy a leather jacket in this style for about $100? I don't want to shell out 500+ until I know that I really enjoy the look.

[Anonymous No.9246495]

>>9246477
topman, asos

[cop 3 v 3 No.9246510]

Want some og carpe diem in 43 (9.5-10). SZ,SF,SuFu,Grailed,ebay,rakuten have none, any other options besides yjap

[Anonymous No.9246516]

>>9246510
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/kind-u/item/571314014759/

those sizes mean nothing, measure your outsole and insole, compare to their measurements
yahoo japan and rakuten jp

[cop 3 v 3 No.9246520]

>>9246516
>store
Yea I know but its around there as I don't know how to properly measure

And I saw those, not a fan of the green dirt

[Anonymous No.9246534]

>>9246520
get your best fitting shoe, get some tape measure or a ruler
from the back of the heel to the tip - taunt the device, record number - that's the outsole
usually what everyone uses.
compare and see
but you MIGHT also want to consider that the insole is where your foot sits, the outer sole is often larger or smaller than the insole etc...
think pragmatically.

i'm about to go through a yahoo japan run fro the sake of it, down?

[trunks !!SE08Bv/gZZR No.9246538]

>>9246534
outsole measuremnt doesnt mean anything measure ur foot compare to sizing

[Anonymous No.9246543]

>>9246538
You're right, it's entirely meaningless because the outsole can extend beyond the foot or before the foot

However what you've failed to realise is that they're operating with outsole, a lot fo the time not recording insole
so we have to operate in their standards... because that's the only one they've made available for us.
if we want to consider the insole we have to estimate it by looking at the shoe, different from case to case.

[cop 3 v 3 No.9246546]

Well my foots a little short of 11 inches, about 27 cm or so

[trunks !!SE08Bv/gZZR No.9246548]

>>9246543
pretty much all sellers list the insole measurement or jp sizing (same exact thing)

if not the marked sizing will def be listed and is more relevant than the outsole measurement

buying based solely on outsole is a complete gamble

[Anonymous No.9246555]

Putting on leather pants takes me a good 5 minutes

[Anonymous No.9246556]

>>9246546
okay i really don't know what then

i'm 27.5cm~ from heel to tip of toe, and i wear a 40-41 carpe, 40 slightly tight, 41 a bit of room.
...
i don't know... i would still say measure the outsole of a shoe you own that you think fits well.

[Anonymous No.9246561]

>>9246548
I have more experience than you on japanese auction sites and rakuten, which is what we're talking about
i can assure you, you're wrong.

it's not a complete gamble because i've done it and succeeded... but i often have a base know how of the product and their measuring parameters.

also jp sizing and insole measurements aren't the same thing...
...
can you go away now?

[trunks !!SE08Bv/gZZR No.9246564]

>>9246555
but i could get you out of them in 5 seconds ;)

[Anonymous No.9246568]

>>9246564
trunks you saucy motherfucker you

[trunks !!SE08Bv/gZZR No.9246569]

>>9246561
yeah they are

jp sz29 = ur foot is 29cm

not talking about julius 1/2/3 sizing here (marked size)

[cop 3 v 3 No.9246572]

>>9246556
How is your foot 27.5 and mines 27 but you wear such a small size. Isn't 41 like a us 8? I'm like a 10

[Anonymous No.9246577]

>>9246569
Except businesses don't operate by wikipedia standard...
I have a CdGH+ pair that are 25 1/2 and a Y's 26 1/2 both exact same outsole and fit me like a dream.
while my foot insole is 27.5

it's not standardised to a real value, it's completely arbitrary and regulated inhouse... sometimes... you even get size inconsistencies between different models of the same label.

no re.

[trunks !!SE08Bv/gZZR No.9246578]

>>9246577
>ur wrong because some brands mark their sizes down wrong sometimes

ok dude

[Anonymous No.9246581]

>>9246572
I can't stress enough how NONE of it is standardised...
this is why i'm really suggesting you take your REAL numerical value measured directly from your shoe outsole and take it to their REAL numerical value measured from the shoe outsole.

Please keep in mind no company sizing is standardised to anything, or not enough to make it worth considering their sizing based on their sizing process. ALWAYS ask for the real hand measured record, whether it be chest, sleeve length, shoe sole etc.

[Anonymous No.9246587]

>>9246578
It's not sometimes, it's a consistent truth amongst both europeans, asian, trans-pacific labels...

no one is standardising

who cares... i don't think anyone considers you a critical authority anyway.

[cop 3 v 3 No.9246590]

>>9246581
I gotcha I gotcha thanks

[Anonymous No.9246602]

>>9246564
Smooth

[cop 3 v 3 No.9246606]

Some Italian eBay. Shoe looks a little more beat then id like and a little big
http://www.ebay.it/itm/CARPE-DIEM-MAURIZIO-ALTIERI-SIZE-43-S45M-DERBY-POELL-HARNDEN-CAROL-CHRISTIAN-/201178756845

[Anonymous No.9246614]

>>9246606
there's no real sizing

[cop 3 v 3 No.9246636]

Is it bad that I only really want og because of that awesome metal thing. And the fact that the team was amazing

[Anonymous No.9246640]

>>9246587
fuck off turny

[Anonymous No.9246652]

>>9242949
>>9242538
You're so wrong that I'm actually getting mad. Leather's only real functionality as a sole is it's unique clicking sound when you walk, so it's not the greatest choice ever.

With that being said, it doesn't fucking disintegrate "after a week" and leather soles don't have to be replaced "immediately," you fucking mong. Unless you're smashing your sole into a fucking nail, it's going to take ages (months and even years) to wear down the sole to the point of demanding a resole. Depending on how many shoes you have in your rotation, it's not unheard of to go a decade without a resole, only some heel replacements during that time.

If you honestly think leather soles are that flimsy, you've been buying shit shoes. My cheapest "nice" shoes are Allen Edmonds, and after three years they're nowhere near needing a resole.

[Anonymous No.9246676]

>>9246636
i think that's awful
a lot of the carpe diem members, even if they collaborated to produce great things, proved that outside of this association have failed to produce content of worthwhile stature

Maurizio Amadei (M.A+)
Luca Laurini (Label Under Construction)
Simone Cechetto (Augusta)
Mariavittoria Sargentini (Marvielab)
Yoko Ito (individual sentiments)
Fabio Quarente (F QR)
Sara Lanzi
Issei Fujita (Lumen et Umbra)
Jun Hashimoto (WJK)

So let's go through this list
m.a+ still makes alright things, although most of his commercial success seems to come from reproducing things that were planned or developed under carpe diem. a lot of his own things, such as the accessories and bags do well enough
some things suck complete dick, like blatant lmaltieri rips that just... suck complete dick
and i've heard only bad things about the womenswear, not the same for mens i claim but...
who knows

Luca
Fucking genius, 10/10 would bang, would bang twice

Simone
0/10, would not touch with 10ft pole, career based on lying, dubious claims of association with carpe diem, career founded on ripping off ccp and carpe diem (extremely heavy references... there is no second guessing... like rips to facilitate pushing them off sales). at one point ccp released a statement saying they would not sell their stock to stores that stocked augusta etc. apparently makes nice enough boots biw though - still think he's a cunt.

Marvielab
10/10 always

Individual sentiments
not so bad, kind of boring, nice enough clothing

Layer-0 (avantiedero_field)
i don't really like, looks okay - nice shoes whatever

Fabio
10/10, did his own shit would bang

LeU
Kind of dull, rarely cool things, some nice fabrics and simple shapes - pretty dull

WJK
sucks complete dick.

So to round it all up who i think are okay
Luca, Marvielab
tolerate: Individual sentiments, Fabio

[Anonymous No.9247789]

>>9242641
It was actually Schott, in 1928. Irving Schott designed and produced the first leather motorcycle jacket. Retailing for $5.50 at a Long Island Harley Davidson distributor.

[trunks !!SE08Bv/gZZR No.9247882]

>>9246676
is is probably the nicest of any of them

all the nice fabrics of leu without the shitty cuts and stupid details

[Anonymous No.9247922]

planning on getting a pair of black snakeskin christian peaus, has anoyone had a pair before, how do they feel over all? should I research the sizings on them so I make sure to get the right size?

[Anonymous No.9248000]

> 2014
> still believing that wearing a dead animals skin is /fa/

[Anonymous No.9248012]

>>9248000
all about the texture friend

[Anonymous No.9248960]

>>9248000
>being this much of a /fa/ggot

[Anonymous No.9249514]

https://www.jackthreads.com/rogue/jackets/light-mid/rugged-leather-jacket/products/128938

cop or not?

[Anonymous No.9249557]

>>9248960
you sound like a bunch of fun

[Anonymous No.9249727]

Hey what should I use to take care of my leather shoes?

[Anonymous No.9250119]

>>9246161
Also, lots of leathers are vegetable tanned.