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9080035 No.9080035[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Hey /fa/,
/sci/ here, what can I do to avoid dressing like a sexist like the guy who just landed the robot on that comet?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/11231320/Rosetta-mission-scientist-Dr-Matt-Taylor-cries-during-apology-over-offensive-shirt.html
I wouldn't want to get in trouble for wearing something offending.

>> No.9080037

Stop wearing clothing with depictions of women as inert objects of male gaze and fantasy

oh and
>don't be an autist

>> No.9080040

>>9080035
How the fuck is that sexist?

It's called weaboocore.

>> No.9080053

>>9080037
Lmfao why?
>he asked him knowingly

>> No.9080054

>>9080040
>western drawings
>weeaboo

>>/out/

>> No.9080059

>>9080035
>"oh no! he's wearing a shirt pictured with hot girls! what sexist pig!"

Give the guy a break.
He just helped humanity's advance in innovation and he's getting shit for wearing that?

>> No.9080063

>>9080054
My mistake.

I didn't check the link.
ITS CARTOONCORE.

>> No.9080068

Instead of calling him sexist, he should be criticized for wearing such tacky shit.

>> No.9080070

>>9080063
Go on netflix and watch Heavy Metal.

All this underage is hurting my head.

>> No.9080071

>>9080035
I genuinely hate the fact that he even apologized about it, and the fact that he felt bad.

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>>9080035
>finding this offensive
>crying and apologizing to feminists

god damn cringey

>> No.9080084

>>9080071
there's this thing in normal society that is different from 4chinz where pretending you dont have empathy isn't seen as edgey and #swag. you'll understand one day, NEET.

>> No.9080090

>>9080084
It's not even edgy. It's just a tacky shirt. If seeing that shirt ruined your day I suggest that you check your privilege.

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>>9080037
>Don't be an autist
>Doesn't realize he's being autistic as fuck
>YFW

>> No.9080094

>>9080035
Nigga this dude might be giving the interview while casually getting a blowjob and I wouldn´t even give a shit, you land a fucking lander on a fucking comet 10 years after departure and you can wear fucking everything

>> No.9080101

>>9080070
If it's a picture that looks like a damn cartoon,than I'll call that.
Fuckface nigga.

>> No.9080155
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9080155

>>9080063
It's actually 80's pinballmachinecore.
http://www.alohaland.com/whats-new/new-gunner-girls

>> No.9080197

>does something amazing
>is nerdy
>wears a nerdy shirt
>they comment on his shirt more then anything


fucking planet is so gay. he is obv a fuckign nerd who cares

>> No.9080206

>>9080197
>if a person is a nerd he is not morally culpable for his actions

brb, I'll go play some Wolfenstein and go out and rape 900 people.

>> No.9080207

>>9080206
>RAPE, RAPE, RAPE
back to tumblr with you

>> No.9080208

>>9080206

>gr8 b8

>> No.9080211

>>9080207
>>9080208
I was being facetious. Point still stands, though. He still has a responsibility.

>> No.9080230

>>9080211
He doesn't owe you or anybody else anything, stop thinking he does

>> No.9080238

>>9080211
>>9080230
>STOP TELLING WOMEN HOW TO DRESS YOU RAPISTS
>STOP WEARING THAT YOU RAPIST

>> No.9080239

>>9080230
He does insofar as he lives in a social reality and engages with other people.

>> No.9080241

>>9080238
I think feminists would object to certain depictions of certain groups of people worn by women. You probably won't see a girl wearing a shirt with a black man being hung by the KKK, say.

>> No.9080242

>>9080230

Seriously, he's fucking retarted going in front of the media wearing that shirt. I'd fire him on the sport. He better be fucking crying during his apology to have any hope, even in an organization dominated by sexist fucking frenchmen.

>> No.9080243

>>9080242

Also, ive beebn drinking so fuck the spelling errors.

>> No.9080246

>>9080243
>drinking

say goodbye to your gains

>> No.9080279

>>9080239
Who is this?

>> No.9080295

>>9080279
??

>> No.9080299

>>9080037
great start

>> No.9080301

>>9080084
these kids must never see sunshine

>> No.9080308

>>9080295
What philosopher should I link this to?

>> No.9080309

>>9080207
fuck off to a cave caveman

>> No.9080310

>>9080242
>I'd fire him on the sport

Luckily you're not in charge of anything important

>> No.9080313

why the fuck is there so much tumblr on /r9k/, fuck off retards we hate women, niggers and fags

>> No.9080317

>>9080239
wow, an intelligent statement

am i on the right website?

>> No.9080326 [DELETED] 

>>9080308
Any moral philosopher

>> No.9080444

>>9080313
lmao shitlord you realize this is a fashion board?

>> No.9080450

>>9080313
>>>/b/
>>>/pol/

>> No.9080466

>>9080084
Empathy for people getting outraged about a shirt? I have more important shit to worry about than that. This is just political correctness, not worth a minute of anyone's time, let alone an apology.

>> No.9080476

>>9080466
>I have more important shit to worry about than that

Like posting on a faggot fashion imageboard?

>> No.9080480

>>9080090
´nuff said.
Seriously though

>> No.9080485

>>9080035
he had to apologize for wearing a tongue-in-cheek shirt?

wow, that's fucking stupid

I hate humanity

>> No.9081510
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9081510

finally, a western version of this. watch out fuccbois

>> No.9081521

sick of people apologising tbh
either don't do it in the first place or be a fucking man and stand by your actions

>> No.9081541

>>9080037
hi /fa/
this post has been posted in multiple boards discussing this topic.

>> No.9081550

>>9080068
Yeah, its a tacky shirt, not sexist.

Fuck i hate what feminists have done to this world. They are activly looking for shit to be pissy about, since if anyone took a moment to really examine the current state of females in the western world, they would see feminism has already gone beyond achiving equality(Women under 34 make MORE money than men of the same age group. They make up more than 60% of post-2ndary education population, they receive 1/8th the sentence a man would for a violent crime, etc....)

>> No.9081581

daily reminder that nigger privilege is kanye west being applauded for wearing a shirt of a nude kim kardeshian, but a scientist who just landed a fucking robot on a comet can't wear a retro 80s pinball pinup shirt

>> No.9081595
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9081595

w2c this shirt?

>> No.9081598

>>9081550
Naw that's not easy enough

>> No.9081599

>>9080155
>http://www.alohaland.com/whats-new/new-gunner-girls
>SOLD OUT

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

>> No.9081605

>>9080084
prideless half nigger

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9081652

>>9081541
>this thread

>> No.9081967

>>9081595
>wearing that where no one can read it

not even impressed

>> No.9082006

>>9080084
Are you really trying to portray SJW'ry and political correctness as motherfucking empathy!?

>> No.9082820

>>9080084
there's a such thing in normal society called having your own opinions and beliefs and standing up for them, you'll understand someday you cuckolded beta faggot

>> No.9082824

>>9082820
>i'm 17 and havent experienced life in the real world yet. muh freedom. muh censorship.

>> No.9082829

why is feminism and the wage gap and shit important? I have one of those top ten highest paid STEM male dominated jobs and there is literally nothing stopping women from getting jobs there in fact there are numerous programs in place to try to get women to consider STEM careers and these programs and virtually ineffective

I mean I guess the way women are portrayed in media is honestly appalling at times, but then if there is apparently a demand for women to be represented in a more mature way then why is there not media being created to fulfil that deman

>> No.9082839

>>9082829
vicious cycle really. people hate change and for some reason think that trying to be thoughtful is being PC and censored and disingenuous. it takes there being women in a field to make it seem less of a sausage fest, but if it's a sausage fest then it will already seem like its an unpleasant environment to be in as a woman. esp when you have aspie guys walking around giving interviews with naked women on his shirt. i wouldnt wanna work with him and i have a dick.

>> No.9082853

>>9082839
"STEM people are all aspies" is not a legit reason to call gender inequality/patricarchy though

I'm a software engineer and most of the people in my office are well rounded normal adults with families and childeren and the vast majority of the HR/admin/marketing people are women so it's not really a sausage fest and I wouldn't say that my company is particularly forward thinking or progressive in that regard

>> No.9082857

>>9081967
>>Chinese people can't english

2/10 I laughed

>> No.9082864

>>9082853
im not saying that stem people are all aspies but im saying that people who wear a shirt covered in half naked cartoon girls on an interview are aspies. i think the problem a lot of people have with the whole calling people sexist shit is like, if i were to say that dudes shirt can be seen as sexist, its not callin him sexist and its not even calling his behaviour sexism but that ppl can exhibit shit that is sexist, and that shit isnt just something that men or stem ppl or whatever do its just a weird thing that society does sometimes and it's not a bad thing to point it out and its not a bad thing to be like "yeah maybe that shit would make ppl feel uncomfortable so i'll maybe not do it in a place of work". like that shit doesnt offend me but i can understand why it would make people feel uncomfortable

>> No.9082911

>>9080313
> i am 12 and have no friends hear me roar

>> No.9082917

>>9082824
>being afraid of being called a word means you're a child

>> No.9082918

>>9082917
oops wrong way round
>being scared of being called a word means you're an adult
history will prove you wrong :)

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>> No.9082945

>>9082917
>>9082918
i dont know what youre trying to say

>> No.9082950
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9082950

>>9081652
sup big red

>> No.9082956

>>9082945
your whole existence is about being as inoffensive as possible

>> No.9082975

>>9082956
No I just value peoples feelings over my choice to call people faggots or wear clothes covered in naked cartoons. It's part of being an adult with empathy

>> No.9082987

>>9082864
>im not saying that stem people are all aspies but im saying that people who wear a shirt covered in half naked cartoon girls on an interview are aspies
The dude is a total autist.
But he's not good looking. If he was chisseled as fuck the feminazis would cream themselves over his sexually empowering shirt with strong women.
They're bullying some autist because they can.

>> No.9082994

>>9082987
No dude. I know that people love to fall on that shit but that's really not how it works. It's possible to just think something is shitty. life isn't really like theredpill as much as they would like you to think that it is

>> No.9082995

>>9082987
there are many examples of media containing attractive men which have been criticised for their depictions of women

>> No.9083080

The reason more women aren't in STEM field has nothing to do with a fucking shirt, it has to do with innate biological differences between the male and female brain. Various studies have been done on this, and I'd recommend looking at the sex-theory of autism work by Simon Baron-Cohen. He found sex differences in behavior and interest a single day after birth; it's directly tied to prenatal hormone production.

The shirt is just a fucking canard. Women have to justify their lack of interest in STEM by suggesting that there's a massive conspiracy against them keeping them from joining. The irony of it being that nearly all of the women complaining have Sociology and English degrees.

>> No.9083081

>>9083080
Idk if you really grasp what the issue is.... people arent saying that the shirt is stopping interest in STEM, they are suggesting that a large amount of people working in STEM are the sort of people who dont see any issue with that

>> No.9083094

>>9083081
And you're not seeing the connection between social difficulty and interest in STEM. There's an inverse correlation between empathy and and ability to systematize.

>E-S theory has been tested using the Empathy Quotient (EQ) and Systemizing Quotient (SQ), developed by him and colleagues, and generates five different 'brain types' depending on the presence or absence of discrepancies between their scores on E or S. E-S profiles show reliable sex differences in the general population (more females showing the profile E>S and more males showing the profile S>E). The E-S theory is a better predictor of who chooses STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics) subjects than is gender.

If you don't want scientists to be awkward, then you don't want them to be scientists.

>> No.9083096

>>9082975
again you're falling back on
>letting people walk all over me is part of being an adult

>> No.9083098

>>9083094
sorry that's a cop out, anyone can learn socially acceptable behaviour.

>>9083096
so if my position is neutral and i can either bend to people telling me to be an asshole or i can bend to people telling me to be empathic, how is your suggestion better or worse. its not, theres just some stupid idea that being an ass is braver and more noble.

>> No.9083101

>>9083081
The shirt is being propped up as evidence of systematic sexism in science. Of course the shirt is part of the issue

>> No.9083105

>>9083101
people are saying the shirt is an example of the issue, not that it IS the issue. Its the typical defensive attitude. why is it such a big deal to admit that the environment can be hostile to women? its not an attack its just like.... life. not everything has to be taken as a personal attack.

>> No.9083107

>>9083094
Simon Baron-Cohens theory has been extensively criticised

>> No.9083110

>>9083098
>theres just some stupid idea that being an ass is braver and more noble.
if you truly believe in what you're being an ass about (I wouldn't classify wearing a shirt with girls on it as offensive) then yes to a degree it's brave
don't pretend feminists/leftists in general are above being total fucking cunts

>> No.9083111

>>9083098
>sorry that's a cop out, anyone can learn socially acceptable behaviour.
Fuck off, though. My point is that it doesn't matter. He's not throwing his feces and calling random women sluts. He wore a tacky shirt made by a female friend of his. The shirt isn't the issue, the issue is that feminists want to force socially awkward nerds who aren't as capable of discerning what's in good taste to have the sensibility of a perfectly tuned artist. It's 8th grade bullying.

>> No.9083113

>>9083107
From an ideological rather than scientific perspective. Any theory that suggests that sex-differences are innate get shit from the establishment. Read Pinker's Blank Slate.

>> No.9083122

>>9083110
I agree, a lot of the time feminists and other people are being misguided assholes and shitty people and go about stuff wrongly but i think at a fundamental level a lot of people come from a place of like, genuinely wanting shit to be better. I do understand that for some people they do view their ability to say what they want as tantamount but I guess I'm just someone who values other peoples happiness as higher.

Or maybe its that I dont really find saying a particular word or acting a particular way something that takes away my identity or integrity. I'm the sort of person who is fine with not using a word if people ask me not do. I guess to a lot of people that makes me a liberal faggot but I've gone through my period of trying to throw my weight around and come to realise that sometimes shit isn't that great for certain people and I really have no incentive to not give being nicer a shot

>> No.9083123

>>9083111
>to have the sensibility of a perfectly tuned artist
>not wearing a shirt with half naked girls on

are you really this impaired?

>> No.9083127

>>9083105
Because, A, the premise that the environment is hostile to women is complete bullshit. Women drop out of STEM fields in similar rates when they take their courses online. B, the premise that a shirt, made by a woman, can be perceived as sexist is silly. And C, you're bullying someone for not being endowed with the same social grace and attunement that you were. You're the asshole in this situation.

>> No.9083135

>>9083127
i'm not sure if you're trying to troll or you're just that ignorant to how a working environment should be but im wasting my time talking to you

>> No.9083136

>>9083122
but there's a difference between being nice and courteous and falling in line with the party to appease a group with extremely political interests

>> No.9083139
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>>9083123
An ironic shirt made by a woman. Shirts of a similar sexual nature are deemed to be okay by most people in certain citations, as long as they're worn in a sort-of tongue-in-cheek way.
It's a mild fault in situational propriety, not a huge fucking deal.

>> No.9083149

>>9083136
Maybe, I think thats where a lot of people get really defensive about shit like that. It's weird because I'm a white dude and because of that im not personally offended by this shit or like, racism or whatever, but I still am happy to take steps to understand why certain situations might be harder for minorities or something. I generally don't give a shit if i have to stop saying tranny or wearing shirts with tits on if it makes a bunch of people feel more comfortable. But i get that a lot of people don't have the same thought process as me. I kind of understand how that issue is more complicated in the public eye though.

>> No.9083150

>>9083135
provide evidence that STEM fields are hostile to women

>> No.9083152

>>9083135
>interview after an extended solo programming session
>working 'environment'
No one saw that shirt until he gave that interview. There was no one there to feel uncomfortable until a camera was pointed at his face.

>> No.9083155

>>9083139
yeah i can agree with this. it could be a funny/ironic shirt if it wasnt worn to work or on tv giving an interview or some shit. time and a place, really. not like the shirt was explicitly sexist.

>> No.9083157

>>9081595
limey and mick arent even offensive

>> No.9083170

>>9083149
>I generally don't give a shit if i have to stop saying tranny or wearing shirts with tits on if it makes a bunch of people feel more comfortable
I'd feel this way if those people were good people but they're not
they're generally scum (no I don't mean trans people) that want to legislate away all my rights and seize my property so I really couldn't give a shit if they were all dragged through the street tomorrow
I'll give someone respect when and only when they earn it

>> No.9083176 [DELETED] 

>apologizing for dressing the way you want to
>people caring more about his shirt than the actual space mission

Sometimes I wish Hitler had won so we wouldnt have to listen to the stupid shit women say.

>> No.9083214

Men land a rocket on a comet.
Women complain about fashion choices hurting their feelings.

>> No.9083240

dress like a trans-lesbian-homo

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Lel, this post has nothing to do with /fa/.

>> No.9083300

>>9081595
make it yourself at the printouts

>> No.9083313

holy shit that's a moronic choice of shirt. at least he apologized so he's not really tunderfoot core

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9083481

Fuck off /fa/, you are the most tumblr board on this site and no one likes you plebs and your taste is simply hipster-tier that you get out of Urban outfitters. Kill yourselves.

>> No.9083650

>>9083313
It's a moronic shirt choice because it's aesthetically ugly, not because it's a symptom of sexism in STEM or anything. He shouldn't have apologized.

>> No.9083654

>>9083481
did you even read the thread? it was all /pol/ shit like you. for an artistic board it sure is right-leaning, prob because of all the kids

>> No.9083666

>>9083654
Not everyone who thinks that this entire controversy is fucking ridiculous is a conservative /pol/ster.

>for an artistic board it sure is right-leaning
i.e., like the rest of 4chan. Even /mu/ has become anti-feminist in recent months

>> No.9083673

>>9083654
>implying kids are right-leaning
you got it wrong, the left-leaning posters are usually underage and behave that way

>> No.9083677

>>9083666
yeah it is like the rest of 4chan, but i imagine a lot here, like me, dont look at any other (shitty) boards. i did when i was much younger but not anymore

>> No.9083678

>>9083673
kids who post on 4chan are right leaning, yes, but not knowingly. this is the site where school shootings and targeted abuse planning happens

>> No.9083681

>>9083666
>Even /mu/ has become anti-feminist in recent months
As they should, because /mu/ and most of 4chan is comprised of mostly men. I'm sick of hearing that feminism is beneficial to men as well as women.

>> No.9083682

>>9083678
>>US based site
>>wow they're right leaning

>> No.9083702

>>9083094
I just have to say, if you think that the entire E-S system hasn't been torn apart critically you're just being selectively ignorant.

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omg like I'm totes not going into like science now

>> No.9083710

>>9083650

it's ugly and possibly a symptom of sexism in stem, but most importantly insanely stupid to wear to an event which will be broadcast across the world, amongst others to children in science classes in school. he was definitely right to apologize, he showed far better judgement than everyone defending him

>> No.9083715

>>9083703
Now it's "We Can Get Them To Do It For Us Without Getting Anything In Return"

and she wouldn't be a riveter, she would be an overweight 26 year old going BACK to college.

>> No.9083721

>>9083710
It's a good shirt though. I'm going to cop if it's ever back in stock.
Not appropriate for the event he was at, but not sexist. Absolutely stupid it got this much attention.

>> No.9083735

>>9080241
Wait, are you equating this man's shirt design to one depicting rape?

What the fuck is wrong with you, moron?