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9032221 No.9032221 [Reply] [Original]

Hey /fa/, something has been bothering me. What is the difference between a shirt from lets say uniqlo/h&m and givenchy/SLP ? What is it that makes the shirt from Givenchy/SLP and other "high-end" brands 300€ more expensive? I really don't understant why a cotton shirt with YSL printed on can be bought for 300€, when you can buy a cotton shirt from uniqlo or h&m for 15€.

Is it the cotton? Is it just because people are stupid enough to buy a shirt with a pitbull print on for 500€ so people can recognize them as "cool"?
Or what?
Same goes with jackets, bombers, jeans etc.

Please discus.

>> No.9032236

> quality
> design
> you also pay for the brand obv.
> some high end brands don't use child labor while h&m etc do

>> No.9032254

>>9032221
Higher quality cotton (let's assume its cotton for arguments sake)

Custom pattern for the t-shirt

The shirt is not made in china by children

The brand name and logo

>> No.9032259
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9032259

>>9032236
>Quality
What is the difference in quality that makes the shirt that much more expensive? I feel no difference when wearing SLP than uniqlo

>"Design"
Pic related, muh "design" :^)

>brand
Yep that is what i think as well, they make the price that high because they can.

>Child labor
No. h&m cloth is produced under humane circumstances, as much as i know

Thanks for the input tho

>> No.9032272

In order or relevance.

>brand name
>cost of manufacture (first world labour)
>material cost

>> No.9032279

>>9032259
No, its not open for debate - that's all it is and as someone else added, the cost of the material being used is a factor

You haven't held a designer t-shirt next to a fast fashion t-shirt - that, or you're incompetent

>> No.9032286

>>9032259
>I feel no difference when wearing SLP than uniqlo

So this whole thread is going to boil down to you not owning designer anything and being ignorant.
Are you from /fit/ by any chance?

>> No.9032297

>>9032279
>That's all it is
Another way of saying that you don't know enough about it m8

>> No.9032308

>>9032286
Nah, i have plenny designer clothing :) The difference in cotton is just not big enough for my nerves to feel a difference. What does it have to do with me being ignorant, kid?

>> No.9032324 [DELETED] 

>>9032308
it is noticeably different
lying or stupid

probably has some made in portugal alexander wang and thinks its 'designer'
haha
hahahha
=)

>> No.9032328

>>9032279
>>9032286
>>9032324
Post fit fuccbois

>> No.9032330

>>9032324
So you would say that the difference in quality makes you cum so hard that 300€ is a fair price for a t-shirt?

>> No.9032335

>>9032328
epic meme bro xD

>> No.9032339

>>9032335
Aye boi X-D

>> No.9032340

I own a shirt from Uniqlo, it's ok, I mean to the average person it looks good, I can wear it to work, but they feel shit. I also own a few Givenchy and SLP shirts, as well as handling Thom Browne shirts, and they feel, and fit 100x better, of course a £300 shirt will be constructed and feel nicer than a £20 Uniqlo version.


How is this even open to debate?

>> No.9032341 [DELETED] 

>>9032330
i dont pay retail peasant contemporary designer
if i paid 300eur for a t-shirt it would be because of its archival value and rarity

anyone paying retail for designer is a fucking moron

with that said

>'fair price'
ur a teen, obviously.

is what people are willing to pay, 300eur for a made in italy egyptian cotton t-shirt with the hallmarks of whatever brand is worth it if ppl pay for it; and whether its justifiable becomes purely subjective and beyond quantification in any meaningful sense.

what i can tell u is by and large quality is discernible between pricepoints in various scaling forms

>> No.9032347

>>9032341
when did you start making sense
are you fake pigfuck??

>> No.9032355

>>9032340
Because not all people have the same opinion ;=)

>> No.9032373

>>9032341
Shiit bro that's some fine ass words you came up with there

But that is my point, anyone paying retail for designer is a fucking moron, because, in my opinion, the difference in quality is not worth 300€

>teen
Yep, 20 years old, surprise :)

I guess it comes down to what people are willing to pay, and not what it is worth.

>> No.9032396

jesus op
a lot of it is the name
a lot of it is quality of materials and the manufacturing of it
most places dont manufacture or source material where they are located at
so they have import charges
you should not worry about quality if you really cannot tell the different between uniqlo and givenchy

>> No.9032406

>>9032396
> a lot of it is the name
Thank you, that was just what i wanted to know. Retards buying cool graphic KTZ t-shirts because its KTZ
Uniqlo, h&m, cos, zara also have import charges
I can tell difference, it's just not that big that the price has to be 300€, in my opinion

>> No.9032412

>>9032406
ok
the difference between a $1000 and a $100 wine isn't that big either
or a $150,000 car and a $200,000 car
who cares

>> No.9032415

>>9032412
Not u :DDD

>> No.9032430

>>9032406
so basically you're an insecure poor faggot who wants to make an anonymous image board make him feel better by saying there it absolutely no different between a €20 and a €300 shirt.

>> No.9032508

>>9032406
yes they have import costs
but they also have lower business costs
you think zara gets good materials to make fast fashion?
there's a reason why those stores are able to make similar styles to runway trends at cheaper prices

why buy haute couture when you can get a similar costume dress right?
i mean $25,000 and $100, who can tell the difference?

>> No.9032527

>>9032508
Drop your name - fag.

>> No.9032545

I own a 180€ moschino t-shirt and I never wore anything so soft. It's made in china, of course.

>> No.9032551

whats the point in discussing?

it is what it is

>> No.9032554

>>9032221
It's because Givenchy uses ultra high-quality polyester in their 100% polyester t-shirts. Worth every cent.

Really you're essentially paying for all four of these elements >>9032236 in varying significance depending on the brand. With a brand like givenchy you're paying for brand/design(iconic graphics) moreso than quality or construction costs. With a brand like, let's say Individual Sentiments, you're paying more for the quality of materials and difficulty of technique/construction, but I'd say in most cases brand is the largest contributor.

>> No.9032570

Brand name, mostly. Sure, higher end basics are going to feel nicer than some mass produced generic tshirt but when I've gone to trendy stores like h&m that attempt to be more fashionable than they are, the shirts I've gotten from them are pretty nice and I stick with those

Then again, I tjink its pretty fucking retarded to pay $300 for a fucking tshirt

>> No.9032571

>>9032259
The quality is in the cuts of the shirt the hems and the wonderful material and the experienced construction. Professionals who have family history are making these garments.

H&M has sweat shops in India, on collapsed recently on workers. They make horrible pay and are working in poor condition.

Design does not mean a graphic on a tee, it means the way the shirt is put toghether and how it falls on the body. There is so much more thought behind all of this than what you think.

The prices are this high because the market pays and the workers are trained, experienced and deserve high wages. They are lluxuries after all.

If you disagree with the ethics and economics of luxury fashion then do not buy into it. Just keep buying h&m or forever 21 since they're the same thing, right?

>> No.9032577

>>9032545
There are quality work factories in China that utilise experienced workers. China is just cheaper.

>> No.9032609

>>9032554
You give me hope in /fa/ mate

>> No.9032635

>>9032570
That is exactly my opinion. Nice to see someone with the same.

>>9032571
Yes, the hems plays a big deal i am aware of, i can 100% agree that a h&m shirt would tear up long before a high end shirt, no doubt.

I genuinely didn't know that h&m made that poor conditions for the workers, that's why i created this thread, to get some answers.
The same with your reply about the reason behind the high price of high end brands and designers.
Your reply has given me a bette understanding of the whole thing, thank you.

>> No.9032685

Hey OP i have a few philipp plein tees... They are made of a material which is actually pretty much the same as a zara tee that my friend bought for 10eu. So it's all about the badman print and the brand.

>> No.9032796

>>9032236
>>9032259
> Quality
you must be retarded if you don't feel any difference
> Design
I agree on that example but there are actually nice shirts to and I wasn't only talking about fuccboi brands because those are overpriced and hyped for sure
> Child labor
you must live in a cave isolated from the rest of the world if you actually think h&m doesn't use children, they've been under fire for it multiple times

>> No.9032867

ITT: Poor people trying to come to terms with owning cheap shit and non poorfags shitting on the poor.

We need to create a seperate fashion board for poor people so you guys can stop shitting it up

>> No.9032875

holy shit op you stink with insecurity god damn

>> No.9035186

Am I the only that doesn't care if my clothes are made by kids?

>> No.9035202

>>9032259
its people like you that are fucking retarded
in what circumstance would your pretentious fuckass ever try on a uniqlo shirt and an SLP one for comparison purposes?
nigga you can afford neither howobout you start designing some "overpriced shirts" so you can afford to make this argument

>> No.9035462

name, mostly. cotton has a lot of diminishin returns.
While cotton obviously come from more expensive sources, this name being passed down. it's like truffles, people will grow them in bullshit places to basically stamp them with the location and charge a higher price.

>> No.9035473

>>9032221
lol

>> No.9035485

>>9032221
Why buy a Kiton suit when you can get one from Macys?

>> No.9035490

>>9032259
>What is the difference in quality that makes the shirt that much more expensive? I feel no difference when wearing SLP than uniqlo
Fashion is not for you, friend.

>Pic related, muh "design" :^)
Givenchy's for plebs, terrible designs tbh. If you can't venture outside of Givenchy, LV,etc., once again, fashion is not for you, friend.

>Yep that is what i think as well, they make the price that high because they can.
People identify with brands that uphold their personal beliefs.
Ex: I buy Patagonia because I care about the environment.

>No. h&m cloth is produced under humane circumstances, as much as i know
Go look at their prices, if not child labor, the employees are getting rape wages. Which I do not agree with.

>> No.9035498

>>9035485
>>9035186
>>9032272
lol

>> No.9035505

>>9035490
>Givenchy's for plebs
Why does everyone on /fa/ just regurgitate what they've read on here..? If you honestly think LV doesn't make quality rtw you are a damn fool.
>inb4 Mohamed pls go
I don't like Givenchy or LV, but I can also recognize that Riccardo Tisci and Nicholas Ghesquire have done some very notable things with respect to the houses. Hell, I think Rick Owens' aesthetic is gaudy and ugly, but I can also recognize that he's doing something relevant.

>> No.9035517

>>9035505
>Why does everyone on /fa/ just regurgitate what they've read on here..? If you honestly think LV doesn't make quality rtw you are a damn fool.
DId I say their stuff is 'less-than-desirable' quality? Naw.
Their design are gawdy.

Naw man, I agree.
I don't personally like what Givenchy, LV, or Rick are doing.
At least Rick is pushing boundaries, the big houses cater to rich folk, and people that don't know better.

>> No.9035520

>>9035505

Tim Jones is LV Menswear

>> No.9035537

>>9035520
I was talking about their main selling items, women's is obviously more influential than menswear.

>> No.9035548

>>9032259
Damn people were easily able to call your bullshit on the quality factor

/thread

>> No.9035553

>>9032406
You just wanted some kid to make you feel right by saying it's the name...
Do you feel better about being broke anon :)

>> No.9037039

I'm on a quest for the best plain white tee (below £80).

Recommendations?

inb4 sunspel, they fit like shit.

>> No.9037123

>>9035517

or to people that like bulldogs and stars