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Do you have a moment of your day to have a word about the one true saviour Jan Jan Van Essche?

>> No.9026081

>>9026073
>white
>dreadlocks

>> No.9026090

>>9026081
pretty sure his partner is of carribean descent and has no problem with them

>> No.9026093

>>9026073
Stop Hani

>> No.9026097

>>9026093
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXdteqEjuyw

>> No.9026098

Stop Hani

>> No.9026445

Fuck off back to care-tags.

>> No.9026680

>>9026090
black people arent monolithic

>> No.9027612

>>9026445
He got banned from care tags tho

>> No.9027616

>>9027612
Also, jan jan is love. I have been eyeing that loose knit before you beat me to it.

>> No.9027659

I just checked him out, His pieces are great. Would love to own some

>> No.9027664

>>9026073
does fa0 being stagnant upset you alex

>> No.9027681

>>9027612
who was banned from care tags?

>> No.9027704
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9027704

>>9027681
me
>>9027612
honestly the sites moderation is so unprofessional
they won't answer emails sent to the given contact email, nor will any of the mods reply to private messages on other sites
so yeah i'm banned for the forseeable future
>>9027616
the linen one? sorry i guess haha, but I think Rizm Closet might still have one left?
I know how you feel though the cardigan in >>9026073 from collection #2 was for sale on styleforum for under a day before being sold
the guy has some qualms about wearing it though, so i might be negotiating a sale with him if he decides to sell
>>9027664
I'm not Alex
>>9027659
honestly for what he does - very small production runs, tons of handiwork on a lot of pieces, all within belgium - his prices are extremely fair, profit margins are kept quite low
i realizes they are still relatively expensive, so keep an eye on the atelier solarshop website - pïetro says they'll be updating with some more archival pieces in the future, so ridiculously good deals and 21% vat discount if you're outside the EU means you could pick up a shirt or knit for less than the price of an acne sweater from tresbien or similar

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>>9027704
Nah this one. I remember you went over the other forum you frequent, i'm assuming this was the first jan jan piece you picked up.

I was on the fence anyway during that time cz wasnt sure if it fits with the rest of my stuff or if i'd pull it off, dude on grailed said it was oversized n such from what i remember. Doesnt work with my small-ish frame

>> No.9027943

>>9027704
I think it's still incredibly overpriced. 250 a tee, 1650 a coat.
Really nice stuff though. ;_;

>> No.9027953

>>9027943
it's not overpriced as much as it is unaffordable for students
hence why he is selling a lot of his wardrobe - vicious

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>>9027953
Unaffordable yeah.

>> No.9028737

>>9026073

junior pls go

>> No.9028980

>>9027704
why the fuck would you want to go back to care-tags anyways. shit is awful. place is more safe-space than Reddit. people literally never neg so even shit fits get appreciated.

>bunch of raf worshipping faggots

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>>9027899
yeah, that is the linen one I was talking about
yeah, it is cut oversize, but it's really accommodating
it's not like a say an oversize CDG jacket or a yohji shirt which might have more regular shoulder seams, and a much more structured shoulder with the padding on older CDG/Yohji jackets - which can just look like you're wearing a more regular piece too big (at least in my experience) - whereas the dropped shoulder seam and the overall cut of the pieces makes it quite form fitting, the extra fabric falls to your side in a really pleasant way. the only problems might be the sleeve, unless you're incredibly tall or have unusually long arms, you'll have to roll/push up the sleeves
but yeah, i think its on rizm
>>9027943
he lines his shirting with the sort of material other brands sell $300 tshirts out of
I agree it's expensive, even jan jan himself laments that, but for him thats the cost of keeping it local and supporting belgian artisans. its certainly not overpriced, the profit margins are kept a lot lower than a lot of niche labels
For instance, the 1650 euro coat - that's the "affordable" one - there was a version in worsted linen that jan jan literally couldnt afford to put into regular production - everything he does has quite a low production run, but with this, only two were made, one kept by jan jan, the other sent to OCNY, where it sold out almost immediately after arriving, at about 4 thousand dollars
jan jan isn't trying to cheat anyone, his pricing is honestly at similar levels to mid-level pseudo-luxury brands like acne more than a lot of capital-F fashion houses. His pricing is a lot like stephan schneider, another great belgian with great textiles who keeps everything local, and considering that, all their prices are incredibly reasonable for what they offer
>>9027953
yep, essentially everything I have that isn't jan jan or a few pieces of yohji is up for grabs
hoping to buy the linen/wool kimono coat from collection #4 - uhuru sasa

>> No.9030228

>>9028980
at least there's content on care-tags, reddit is just waywt circlejerking

>> No.9030234

>>9029725
where do you learn this

>> No.9030266

>>9030234
I'm assuming all of this since I ain't Hani. I found out much of what I know about JJVE from the SZ thread about him and going of from the links and interviews posted there.

>> No.9030267

>>9030228
It's just a more watered down and hug boxy Sufu if you look at it that way.

>> No.9030303
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>>9030234
Reading interviews with jan jan & pïetro, talking to people who have worked with him, and just looking at and handling his work
if you pick up say, my drawstring sweatshirt from collection #4 - uhuru sasa, and compare the quality of the looped terry textile used and the cut of the sweat itself to something from acne, or even dries, i don't see how you couldn't discern that jan jan is really doing something special and worth supporting
>>9030266
yeah, the coffee klatch interview with him and pîetro is great, also quite early on in the label's history

there's also these two great videos from his paris showroom, the first with him talking about and showing some pieces from project #2: redeem and the second is collection #5: inite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gXvrgrr7aM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKwdOoxJl6o

Also this short but beautiful clip on vimeo showing his atelier in the back of atelier solarshop, working on some pieces from project #1: proceed

http://vimeo.com/74723230f

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>>9030303
I don't know why but that interviewer really pissed me off. I guess it wa because she sounded like she had no idea what she was talking about was so insistent on some things.

Also rate my newest reaction image

>> No.9030402

>>9030388
i mean, she seems nice enough, and the questions are just a platform for him to talk more about his work
also 10/10

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>>9030741

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>>9031154

>> No.9031721
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>> No.9031724

>>9027704
You're not getting unbanned dude. You're an asshole.

>> No.9031729

>>9031724
eh, all the criticisms i've made about the forum and its community are all true, i have no idea why people take the place and themselves so seriously

>> No.9031738

>>9031729
what did you say?
i dont post on caretags

>> No.9031755
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9031755

>>9031738
that the forum is a bunch of big babies with an over-inflated sense of self-worth, that it's all just people cosplaying poverty, that more 50% of the people on there can't style expensive clothing, that you can't present dissenting opinions (a minimum requirement to neg-rep? what rubbish), the irony that a forum that abhors "consumption" and won't have a recent purchases thread also has a "TELL ME WHAT TO BUY INTERNET SO I CAN BE LIKED" thread because they're all spineless wimps
add to that some joking self-aggrandizement (i'm so great, i bless you with my presence, i'm better than everyone on here) and some "mean" comments about how individual people can't dress - the kid who looks like a 12-year old milspex, the ginger kid with the EG jackets who looks like a tasteless farmer with expensive outerwear, etc
but yeah, i might have been a bit silly about it, but the forum is trash, the moderators can't behave at all professionally (there's no written rules that i could have broken, you're suppose to receive a warning before you're banned though i didn't, ban being extended despite no further posts)
but yeah, the site is a joke, if i get unbanned i will continue to act the same way in the hopes that some will actually think about what they're doing instead of following the care-tags zeitgeist to be quite honest

but how about jan jan?

>> No.9031759

>>9031729
>>9031755
i think any reasonable person would just not contribute to a venue which provides nothing for them?

>> No.9031762

>>9031759
i still post on 4chan as well

>> No.9031768

>>9031762
but you don't incessantly shit post on 4chan.

>> No.9031775

>>9031768
i contributed "positively" to care-tags as well, but in my opinion actually calling the site and its userbase out was a lot more constructive that posting some cool old yamamoto or beirendonck pieces

>> No.9031783

>>9031768
i think hanis just trying to relive his big internet hero days because he knows he cant pull that shit on /fa/-/mu/ anymore

glad youve simmered down now sport because behind the facade youre actually an ok kid gj

>> No.9031784

>>9031775
didn't you just spam the board with meaningless threads?

i think, with threads like this, it's okay on 4chan since they're all kind of temporal but on bbc it's not.

>> No.9031786

>>9031783
i don't remember days like that on /fa/.

>> No.9031792

>>9031784
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g5Hz17C4is
but honestly, i didn't, only thread I made was my classified thread, didn't sell anything
>>9031783
t-thanks
i didn't think what i did on care-tags was even shitposting, it wasn't inane/malicious, i at least think there was some evident point to it?

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9031803

>>9030303
haha, you know in this video.

i think they looks like m_moria shit kickers
hard to say though, they could be a pair of trickers or something.

>> No.9031811

>>9031786
>>/fa/thread/S5902462

he was nomad/junior watanabe back then. he had some pretty big internet hero threads as anon too but unfortunately this was before the archive. it was funny af tho

>>9031792
i think its moreso the case that 4chan humor doesnt translate well to other sites, and when people try to do it its VERY evident. i mean as much as sufu loves its metahumor whenever 4chan expats post it becomes very apparent and, as we all know, they get blasted into oblivion. in a lot of ways caretags is the opposite of 4chan, so can you see why they wouldnt be very receptive of it? at any rate to me its pretty apparent that you werent being malicious, but im a season 4channer and they arent, so you should probably simmer it down a bit if you do go back. when in rome, ya dig?

>> No.9031817

>>9031811
i know exactly what you're talking about but i don't remember them as hero days.

>> No.9031820

>>9031803
i wouldn't doubt it, as jan jan and maurizio as well as mariavittoria (of marvielab) are good friends! i don't know the connection exactly but according to multiple people they definitely hang out, especially around showing in paris - perhaps bonding through dreads haha
>>9031811
>Someone find out if Sruli Recht makes hand-dyed goat leather body bags wide enough to accommodate his hips
yeah that's still a great par to be honest
i miss geoff :(
and yeah, i get that being on 4chan can certainly warp the way we act online, but even when i was particularly rude, i don't think i was being particularly malicious, nor can they seem to handle any sort of playful boasting. crabs in a bucket i suppose

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9031822

>>9026073
jan jan is a pretty cool guy but can he check em?

>> No.9031829

>>9031820
how u acting like u pwn3d turnleft when u were going full visvim internet defense force in that thread lmao

ether gang got etherd away

who was that fat kid who only wore supreme?

>> No.9031838

>>9031829
squids?
also it's just because making fun of turnleft, or anyone else was just the fun thing to do then
kind of glad ether culture is dead

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>>9031822

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Probably an obvious question but when they call each other partners, does that mean any more than just business?

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>>9031822

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>>9032477

papa's at the wheel

>> No.9033577

>>9033546
why do you continue to post on unwoven when everyone there thinks you're a joke, just wondering

>> No.9033582

Hani go on skype dickhead

>> No.9033685

>>9033582
i just woke up
>>9033546
wow, thanks for that, hadn't actually seen any photos of them togetherf
>>9033577
i don't think everyone does, i have nice exchanges with some of the members on there, albeit some off the site
>>9032477
as far as i know, yes, they met at the academty, they're romantically involved, jan jan singles him out in the piece accompanying his graduate collection

>> No.9033700

>>9033685
>some of the members
like who?

>> No.9033747

>>9033700
uh, does specificity really matter?
but i talk to een, merz, trouble and senpai on a semi-regular basis over unwoven and fb

>> No.9033761

>>9033577
Is Unwoven just a site for all the people who post on every fashion forum already go go post? I mean the first thread I click on I see fuuma and merz. Is this all they do? Also what is the appeal to Unwoven compared to other forums like SZ, or even CT.

>> No.9033765

>>9033747
ya thats what i thought dude
>trouble, senpai
4chan trash like yourself
>merz
only talks to you to have something to gossip about to everyone else, guarantee

>> No.9033771

>>9026081
>white
>not falling the norm

>> No.9033786

>>9033765
I know trouble but not senpai, does he go by sensei here?

>> No.9033820

>>9033786
no, he goes by kale kohai on superfuture
>>9033761
it's mostly people from an ongoing conversation that started on stylezeitgeist, and either got banned or chose to leave because of the site and its moderation, the rest of the johnny come-lately posters (turnleft, myself, trouble, senpai, etc) all came from other places quite a while after
i try not to post in a way that might detract from what others post there, so i mainly stay in the music thread
>>9033765
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.9033867

>>9033820
I didn't know Kale posted here.

>> No.9033881

>>9033867
he doesn't as far as i know

>> No.9033887

>>9033881
Oh I was just going off of what the dude above said. I was worried for a sec Kales a cool guy and I wouldn't think he would be the type of person to post here no offense to you tho.

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>> No.9034023

>>9033887
>>9033881
he used to post here all the time you fuckin idiots

>> No.9034194

>>9034023
really?

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>> No.9034581

>>9033761

I found it though here about a year ago when one of the old trips made a link post. They weren't happy
that it got linked here. would have been happy to lurk but they force login to see attachment.
I recognized some from sz, but they dont post on sz anymore. It even looks like all the old posts merz,
heirloom and wire.artist had there have been deleted. bunch of others like Docus and Mail-moth post to
both places, and then there are some non-shit sufu people like ghost and a few good ones from ct. looks
like the only place where knoch and timber continue to post regularly.

>> No.9035746

>>9033820
i wonder why there is no conversation

>> No.9035751

everybody on unwoven hates the faggot asians in illfitting yohji

trouble, senpai, hani are all loathed and only tolerated to not seem mean like the SZ moderation

>> No.9035768

>>9035751
>>9033765
why are you people so upset?
take a break from the net for a second, thomas buckler just released two new EXCELLENT videos and i would highly recommend watching them.

>> No.9035772

>>9035768
>upset

Just stating the truth goober

>> No.9035776 [DELETED] 

unwoven is the most embarrassing of all
in a league of embarrassing boards
in a genre already inherently embarrassing (online fashion forum)
unwoven is the most embarrassing, lame, oblivious, pile of steaming shit

>> No.9035779

>>9035776
>still hung up about timber

Give it a rest Martin

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>>9031755
dude u look like this
this obsession with the meta metrics of internet fashion forums needs to stop
u need to have sex with a woman

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>>9035779
but shes so gawwwwwjuzzz

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daily reminder that the 'dude' churning out the oh so cynical, so incendiary, too kitsch for this shit essays ITT is this unfortunate fellow

>> No.9035793

>>9035789
doesn't he live in some malaysian shithole too?

>> No.9035796 [DELETED] 

>>9035793
yeh pretty sure hes thai or pinoy shit
i think he lives in australia with his parents tho
obviously looking the way he does, being the goy manlet half breed means that leaving the house is quite daunting/terrifying experience.

i think thats why he spends so much time crossposting on every 'fashion forum' on the internet and writing/thinking so much about them

>> No.9035797

>>9035789
you took the time to put his fit into a gay sex orgy scene

>> No.9035802 [DELETED] 

>>9035797
welcome to the board friendo, that infograph is as old as u

did u know theres an archive too? hehe, what about that!?!? another EPIC WIn for science!

anyone else listening to niel degrasse tyson podcasts rn??

>> No.9035805

>>9035802
◟(∗❛ัᴗ❛ั∗)◞

>> No.9035813 [DELETED] 

>>9035805
m'lady

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>>9035813
posting more hani/junior pics from the archive
i wonder what possessed him to post his ugly fucking face lol

>> No.9035828

>>9035789
this is actual autism

like honest to god, diagnosable autism

>> No.9035835

>>9035789
idgi
why would you save gay porn just to make fun of junior
thats like crazy obsessed

>> No.9035843

>>9035819
post your face
inb4 le funny ironic comment instead

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>>9035843
welcome to the board friend, perhaps if u werent
a) stupid fucking moron
b) fresh off the new kid boat from 9gag
c) a stupid fucking moron
d) all of the above
ud have already seen my face and/or know how to find it with ease

eat shit and go get it urself

more hani pics from the archive, this is the kid masquerading as fashion auteur

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>>9035846
look at these goy thighs, hani likes his soy milk

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>>9035850

>> No.9035855

>>9035846

but thats dope

>> No.9035856

>>9035853
What the fuck.

How old is he now?

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>>9035853
he never stood a chance

>> No.9035862

>>9035853
aren't you a 17 year old autralian kek

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>>9035862
kek indeed my friend

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>>9035782
i dunno, i think her face is average but her body is fine and she looks good in the style of clothing she wears.

that pic u keep posting freaks me out, she looks really sick. looks like she has crohns or some autoimmune disease or something or maybe anorexic, wouldnt really surprise. either way its pretty obvious you only post it because she looks fine in all the other pictures of her on the web, you have to pick and choose the ones where she looks like she just got out fof the hospital

>> No.9035935

>>9035813
I'll be your lady ( ˘ 3˘)

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>>9035928
she looks fine in the ones she wants u to see

thing about ex-furry nerd sperglords turned internet fashion gurus is there's a reason they were a furry nerd sperglord in the first place: genetics

>> No.9035946

>>9035928
She looks bad in that too. And that's hard with contrast like that. She has no shape and an uneven face- hence the 'melting' picture that he actually uses more

>> No.9035947

>>9035928
>>9035938
who dis suga-pie honey-bunch ?!

>> No.9035949

>>9035938
she's an ex-furry?

>>9035928
not really, she just looks like someone who doesnt eat much and has never done any exercise, that's it. she probably has that disgusting skinnyfat protruding belly and hip line

>> No.9035951

>>9035938
...she looks fine in that one too, girls with those andro model bodies just look weirder when you see them outside of posed shoots.
>the ones she wants u to see
yea and you share only the pictures you want us to see too, thats how the internet works.

>> No.9035959

>>9035846
Where are these from? What the fuck is the print on that shirt?

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>>9035951
not necessarily friend
she was clearly having a bad day in this one

>>9035949
welcome to the board

>>/fa/thread/S7581377#p7584695

enjoy
thread is why the transclan stopped posting

>> No.9035965

>>9035959
its ducking ducks dyoood

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9035971

>>9035964
Seek psychological help, man. It's an ugly girl on the internet.

>> No.9035975 [DELETED] 

>>9035971
do u know who i am?
do u know the sort of pussy i fuck kid?
posting about this dumb jew does 3 things

1) entertains me
2) makes faggots like u mad
3) gives people who browse this shit board something interesting to read because god knows coming here for 'fashion' advice is an exercise in futility

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>>9035975

>> No.9035978

>>9035977
its scary how accurate that is
pigfuck get help

>> No.9035985

>>9035977
>>9035971
It's funny because this more likely applies to you, you stalk pigfuck with these comments, projecting onto him

Timber #1 fan pls go

>> No.9035987

>>9035977
lmfao this is spot on

>> No.9035990

>>9035985
nice post pigfuck, make another one =)

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>>9035846
im sorry i forgot that youre famous here for shitposting 30 hours a week

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best part about these timber fanatics is that timber did had very interaction with me, nor i her, aside from one or two discussions about helmut lang. there is no 'online beef.'

it wasnt until i realised how aggravated her servile, pathetic, virginal internet defense force gets when u insult her that i really cranked up the shitposting.

wanna know who to blame when ur 5/10 internet fashion waifu gets insulted on 4chan? look in the mirror u bleeding heart faggots.

;)

now lets get back to making goobers mad

>> No.9036004

>>9035999
does she count as a cryptoid/paranormal creature you "investigated" *wink wink* *nudge nudge*

>> No.9036009 [DELETED] 

>>9036004
yeh joke about my profession u heartless fuck

>> No.9036012

>>9036009
i wouldn't be so heartless if you didn't break it ;n;
</3

>> No.9036013

>>9036009
arent you a fashion designer or editor of vogue? or does your fashion fame stop at effay?

>> No.9036064

>>9036013
Well if you really want to know, you can take a guess how he got such a gorgeous jawline.

>> No.9036097

>>9031755
>caretags js dressed by the internet

F/a is "what do sufu and sz like guys please take us seriously we wear designer stuff too like rick and rick and rick and raf and yohji and rick and rick and rick oh and ysl/slp"

>> No.9036172

>>9035977
ayy lmao 👽
pigfuck go see a therapist

>> No.9036340

>>9035999
Damn all this face saving and back pedaling it's pretty obvious that the diagnosis is right and now you are trying to delude yourself into thinking you are still a sane fully functioning human being.

>> No.9036354

>>9036097
/fa/ is what I'm coming to realize the place people who already post on every other board and forum come to blow off steam or take it easy. So obviously yeah you are going to get a lot of influence from the two major sites that the more intelligent and better dressed posters come from. Besides that the vast majority is high-school/college kids who come here just wanting to dress better and end up being changed dramatically to totally different style. At this point I would say /fa/ has its own unique style but it's obviously bland and shit.

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9036421

Pigfuck ruins another thread.

Oh well. Trying to get this back on track. Bump.

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9036433

I live in Antwerp and love his store, lovely people work and shop at Atelier Solarshop

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>>9036421
jan jan sucks too

pic related
a real knit
from a REAL designer

>> No.9036439

>>9036434

ok pigfuck, no shit, no jokes, no sarcasm

list worthwile REAL designers worth getting garments from?

bonus: list hacks that should be avoided at all costs

>> No.9036486 [DELETED] 

>>9036439
copypasting my old one

the best:

Raf Simons 95-08
Helmut Lang
Martin Margiela(the man not the current label)
McQueen(for his women)
CCP

the second best:
issey miyake
massimo osti
Takahiro Miyashita
Dries van Noten
Ann D
Jun Takahashi pre 08
Yohji
Rei
Maurizio Altieri
Junya Watanabe
Dior and old YSL Hedi Slimane
Bless project

good:
SLP Hedi slimane
KVA
BBS
Rick owens Drkshdw
Geller
pre sell out Damir Doma
Patrick Ervell
Stephan Schneider
the viridi anne

irrelevant 'goth' derivative shit:
luc
ma+
julius
obscur
devoa
current damir doma

fallen from grace:
08-present Raf Simons
08-present Jun takahashi

cuckold shill kike tier:
rick owens
sruli recht

>> No.9036494

>>9036486
how come drkshdw is good but rick is shill kike tier? did he fall to kikery?

>> No.9036497

>>9036486

this list is a joke and so are you

>> No.9036509 [DELETED] 

woooooo nelly the friendly janitor did it for free
now lets repost my list, everyone else u can view the archived version of this thread here:
>>/fa/thread/S9026073


the best:

Raf Simons 95-08
Helmut Lang
Martin Margiela(the man not the current label)
McQueen(for his women)
CCP

the second best:
issey miyake
massimo osti
Takahiro Miyashita
Dries van Noten
Ann D
Jun Takahashi pre 08
Yohji
Rei
Maurizio Altieri
Junya Watanabe
Dior and old YSL Hedi Slimane
Bless project

good:
SLP Hedi slimane
KVA
BBS
Rick owens Drkshdw
Geller
pre sell out Damir Doma
Patrick Ervell
Stephan Schneider
the viridi anne

irrelevant 'goth' derivative shit:
luc
ma+
julius
obscur
devoa
current damir doma

fallen from grace:
08-present Raf Simons
08-present Jun takahashi

cuckold shill kike tier:
rick owens
sruli recht

>> No.9036514 [DELETED] 

>>9036494
cause drkshdw isnt shit

but in a sense yes, ro was a lot more interesting in the early stages of his career than now

>> No.9036518

>>9036509
this is the dumbest list ive ever seen.

>> No.9036523

>>9036509
topkek.

You haven't grown out of Raf yet? :(

>> No.9036525 [DELETED] 

>>9036518
resounding argument, i concede defeat

are u angry because acne isnt listed or because u dont know who half of the names represent

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>>9036523
>topkek

>> No.9036651

>>9036509
Decent list until you reach good
>SLP
>BBS
>KVA
All pretty shit
>current Damir Doma
>goth
Hahahaha nice one
>pre"sellout" damir
>good
His early stuff was some of the most inspired and interesting stuff of this decade
>Current Julius
>goth
Another very funny joke ahaha
>Jun Takahas pre08
>implying Earmuff Maniac was not his absolute best men's show
>08-present Raf
He definitely was shit for a while but fw14 and ss15 were fantastic and are making me incredibly hopeful for a return from his uninspired shit
Lastly to completely deny Sruli of any reputability is beyond stupid. Of course many of his pieces were lacking basic knowledge of patterns but his material use alone is noteworthy. This isn't even mentioning his silhouettes and anatomical cuts, sure it is overpriced for most of it and there are the pieces that are more art than clothing but fashion is art so it's pointless to say someone is a kike because of that. For fucksake Rei is in your second best list and she is one of the most conceptual and abstract designers of this century.

>> No.9036790

>>9036509

>second best:
>Maurizio Altieri

>irrelevant goth:
>luc

The trouble with ignorance is that it feels so much like expertise.

>> No.9036815

>>9036790
You can possibly think that Label Under Construction is better or really even comparable to Altieri's work. Sure Laurini worked for Altieri and knows his processes and the ethos he is trying to convey but I don't feel that he has or even will ever reach the level of anything in the Altieri family.

>> No.9036921

>>9036815

>Sure Laurini worked for Altieri and knows his processes and the ethos he is trying to convey but I don't feel that he has or even will ever reach the level of anything in the Altieri family.

Alright. I'll entertain this for a moment. As good as, better than. In order to compare things, we must first have some idea of what we're comparing. If you are talking about knit goods from 02-05, you would be comparing the same person's work against itself at different points in time. But your understanding of the work has altieri operating as some creative genius in a vacuum, when it was a creative collective of people from multiple disciplines who brought something of their own to the table and affected each other's work for years to come. Many of the techniques used were incorporated by Laurini into his subsequent work, just as many of the ideas and techniques informed by his family's knowledge of knitting process and training as an architect saw subsequent use in the work of others. Most of these people have remained good friends and continue to work together well into their present efforts.

Part of how fashion is presented to the consumer is through having the consumer identify with the designer. this is difficult to do with a creative collective that, at least during the time of its activity, was largely anonymous. We're talking about these things close to 10 years after they ceased working together, and I'm having a difficult time understanding what you even meant by 'ever reach the level of anything in the altieri family' - do you mean something specific by that or was this just Le Cool Knowledgeble Expert Fashion Opinion..? Because nigga, you don't know jack shit.

>> No.9037090

>>9036921
shut up merz

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>>9036651
>DD
such a shame about damir. i am of the same opinion that his "pre-sellout" stuff was indeed really really good.
>BBS
i used to be the same as you. a lot of people preach awful quality and derivative design. I genuinely think BBS' influences are obvious but that he has made his aesthetic unique throughout the years. same could be said about brands like Obscur
>Jun
"pretty hate bird" was pretty amazing though. Probably my favorite collection, menswear included, for SS15

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>>9036433
hey
any chance you're going to the sample sales next week and might be able to tell me a little about what's there and perhaps even proxy me a few things? i'd really appreciate it
you can contact me via superfuture, or if you don't have an account, i can give you my email
http://supertalk.superfuture.com/index.php/user/165543-lil-goose-egg-deux/
>>9036421
it's ok, i'm glad the moderators just sort everything out
>>9037090
i mean, that's right though - carpe was so relatively big that design work had to be delegated, it wasn't simply him giving orders to a talented group, it was, as said, a group of talented people from different disciplines who contributed to the different lines in different way, and influenced each other in a different way. i mean, there are those who worked under the family seem relatively content to plagiarize from whatever's popular (simone), but there's nothing wrong with the exploration of a particular interest and skillset that a member developed in their time before and during their work at Carpe - is Laurini "worse" for the specific investigation of knitwear anymore than Altieri is for footwear? I mean, it's controversial opinion, but I like the M_Moria stuff more than any of the Carpe/Linea footwear, even if it's really a continuation of the S52m shitkicker-type boot

>> No.9037881

the most worthwhile thing in this entire thread, by far, is the picture of altieri driving a hunchback he stole from the 70s

>> No.9037888

>>9037881
scus me,
station wagon.

>> No.9038092

>>9037815
>>9036921
Where do yOu guys find most of your information on the Alteiri house it has been a growing interest of mine for a while now. The SZ thread obviously has a lot of information but also a lot of ahit and useless drivel. If there are any other means of finding out more about these designers that would be great but if not I guess I would be fine wading through the shit on the SZ thread to find what I'm looking for.

>> No.9038101

>>9037384
i was talking strictly men's line for that comment since it seems that was the majority of focus for pigfuck. Obviously when it comes to the womens line there are many shows I would place before Earmuff Maniac, But Beautiful II, Guru Guru, and Pretty Hate Bird being my favorite. I also really liked fw14 but Jun's newest show easily surpassed that.

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>>9038092
i can't speak for the other poster, but the SZ thread is ok, just google around the subject as necessary really
there's this thread
http://forums.thefashionspot.com/f60/continues-family-brands-carpe-diem-linea-etc-41199.html

>> No.9038123

>>9038092
honestly who gives a shit

go ride bikes outside, no one cares about some nasty old homeless italian dude, why do sz nerds feel the need to memorize the life story of every designer

>> No.9038149

>>9038123
Says the guy who only buys SZ approved brands. Ok lol whatever you say trunks.

>> No.9038197

>>9038123

levi, probably more people than those giving a shit about your pitiful attempts at playing kale koohai to martin-senpai. you're projecting where he's a bonafide fucking sociopath in need of treatment.

you have a lot to learn, young grasshopper.

>> No.9038204

>>9038197
you kiss the ass of designers who's clothing you can't afford

a lot to learn about being pathetic as you talk about how influential rick is in your gap tee

>> No.9038586

>>9038204

is that sort of like you being a basement-dweller in the land of our exiled excons? (truly i don't know who uses that trip anymore, but if i must guess..)

>you talk about how influential rick is in your gap tee


I must confess I kind of like this wiwt-by-esp thing we've got going on.. tell me what else i'm wearing today. I'm feeling hot and randy right now.

>> No.9038712

>>9038197
>>9038586
stop posting on 4chan merz

>> No.9038843

>>9036921
Uhhhh why do you have to make everything into some philosophical agenda. Yeah I fucked up I was talking about stuff I apparently don't know as much as u though I did, but holy shit you could've just called me on my shit and then proved your point. There is no need to bring in something like the identity of the consumer with the designer. It's awesome you are intelligent and know what you are talking about (seriously it's something I envy) but you, tl, and the few other cross posters all do the same thing. You have this knowledge but for some reason feel the need to bring in some unrelated higher knowledge to keep up the facade that you are some all knowing fashion deity. Again I completely respect your knowledge of fashion especially and also your obvious grasp the world in general but it isn't needed for the most part.

>> No.9038946

>>9038843
are you that angry dude who bought 10k rick or s/t?
no need to be so tense

>> No.9039031

>>9038946
If I'm referencing TL in my post I'm most likely like not TL my writing style is nowhere even close to him as well. I'm not bad though I just find it annoying(maybe tiresome) to always see the same things from this guy and the few others I listed. I've said it before I just don't see the point of those posts atleast here. Your average user couldn't even begin to grasp what he wrote. There are plenty of other platforms for discussion in that level I mean Merz even created his own site for that kind of thing. I just think it's silly to have parts like that here and the fact that he always brings the argument or discussion to some philosophical level.

>> No.9039050

>>9039031
the point in leaving open ended, maybe ~whimsical~ replies is so observers don't feel the need to menacingly analyse an aspect related to the subject right off the bat to participate. it's just questions on top of questions.
rick and myself are also huge advocates of "rude people are abominable": above all else - i think being rude is just, without repose.

nothing in this thread has come close to philosophical. in the world of carpe diem information, this is like the stuff that would be on the wiki page.

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yoooooo wtf happen to my posts !!!! hahaha wasuuuuuuup

>>9036790
luc is shit dude just cuz they're 'related' doesnt make it good by default dumb fuck fucking retard

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>>9039031
its drivel mate, circular redundant clauses and empty words written by 21 year old art students in their second year of university or worse, written by mid 20/30 something 'adult males' who wear dresses and post earnestly on online fashion forums.

i love going on unwoven, gives me them good cringe feels "woooo these people are fucking stupid"

>> No.9039127

>>9039031
>>9039050
it always amazes me that 4chan can spark discussions like this. especially on /fa/ where the fuccboi strives.

>>9039095
lol plz explain how luc is shit. luca's knitwear is praised beyond measure. maybe you can shed some light on this :)

>> No.9039131

>>9039127
praise != good

>> No.9039147

>>9039050
your rude to him in your essay though lol hypocrite much

>> No.9039157

>>9039147
what essay

i'll let you in on a secret; when i think i was two, i shat my pants - free ammo.

>> No.9039420 [DELETED] 

>>9039127
luc is shit dude lmao

>> No.9039425

>>9039420
why

>> No.9039453

>>9039425

because it gets a bunch of nerds to reply to obvious trolls

>> No.9039463

>>9039109

YOU are sad
YOU are pathetic
YOU only find meaning in life when people notice you
and those people don't.
TOPPEST KEK.

>> No.9039617

>>9039050
I don't think I was being rude at all maybe a little aggressive or critical, and I wasn't saying every single post you make is philosophically driven at all. Just that you have a tendency to get like that, maybe a better word would be preachy instead of philosophical.

>> No.9039635

>>9039157
I would much rather come off as rude compared to how nasty and spiteful you do

>> No.9039641

>>9026090
>"of carribean decent"
what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

>> No.9039644

>>9029725
fuckin dick ovens wanna be.

>> No.9039650

>>9039641
descent, not decent, as in someone who comes from a carribean ethnic background

>> No.9039651

>>9039641
His ancestors...come from...the Caribbean...but at some point...they moved to Europe...
Just thought I would take that one nice and slow just like you.

>> No.9039653

>>9039644
What?
>I want know nothing peasants to leave

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>>9039463
>toppest kek

>> No.9039665

cool just like stephen schneider :)

>> No.9039670

>>9039659
This post and .gif really made me LMAO/LOL would you mind if I saved it my fine gentleman?

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>>9039635
sure

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>>9026073
Most embarrassing thread 2k14

Kill yourself Hani

Log off Merz

Keep it up Pigfuck

>> No.9039697

>>9039665

suck a melon egg head

>> No.9039702

>>9039696
>this is the face of australian shitposters

>> No.9039707 [DELETED] 

>>9039702
show some respect

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hani dump

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>>9039709
good looken bloke

>> No.9039713

>>9028980
its way more fun than /fa/ tho

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>>9039712
he loves fashion

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>>9039714
one for the lads

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>>9039717

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anyone else here a fan of gnarkill

http://vocaroo.com/i/s02BynJ3zuen

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>>9039709
>>9039712
>>9039714
>>9039717
>>9039721
>>9039733

This is brutal

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>>9038946
No, that's me (I'm not angry though). I would never say something as insecure as >>9038843. That's one of the most cringeworthy things I've ever seen on /fa/. Isn't the whole reason we visit here to discuss fashion instead of more appropriate platforms to avoid the constant cocksucking?

>I respect your big fashion e-peen but w-why'd you have to make me look dumb in front of my friends!!

Seriously reconsider your life. Pic very related, stop posting for a while

>> No.9039903

>>9039886
remember
fashion forums rot ur brain

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>>9039903
already 4got
brain 2rot

>> No.9040192

>>9026073
Where can you even buy this guy's stuff?

>> No.9040219

>>9040192
there is a list of stockists right on his website m8

http://www.janjanvanessche.com/home2/node/4

>> No.9042012

>>9040219
>Netherlands has as much retailer as Kuwati
lel

>> No.9042206

>>9039886
>we hate rude people
It's like you have never heard of hypocrisy.

>> No.9042225

>>9042012
i have no idea who 4's customer is.
i'm actually just convinced it's oil barons or people stopping by on transit before realising there is actually nothing noteworthy in kuwait and should have gone to dubai instead.

>> No.9044207

>>9040219
Cheers m8