/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.8999859]

>Stylezeitgeist
Discuss this website and its founder

[Anonymous No.8999862]

>>8999859
apart from the powerstance i'm not seeing anything especially wrong

[gaspar No.8999883]

>>8999859
Yeah the stance is a little awkward, but it's not a bad fit.

[Anonymous No.8999884]

>>8999862
Look around the knee area
>excellent

[Anonymous No.8999891]

>>8999859
>that disgusting shirt
>fit on those pants
>ugly boots
>all-black edgelord
>that stance

[Anonymous No.8999893]

Would have been a better website if not for the angry little goblin on a powertrip. Seriously, the atmosphere he is advocating and his attitude just makes it a unfriendly place.

[Anonymous No.8999902]

the only other vbulletin site i still actively browse

eugene isn't taken seriously outside of his site

[Anonymous No.8999949]

>>8999893
I think it's awesome to like a style but to say you can only post thatsaidaryle and nothing else on your website, is fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.8999955]

>>8999949
I have no problem with the thematic concept of the site, it's supposed to be about avant garde fashion after all.

The problem is that Eugene is a total asshole.

[Anonymous No.8999957]

>>8999902
Well obviously somewhat since he gets so much access and status into the actual physical fashion world. I don't really understand it but obviously he is doing something right.

[HY DE No.8999972]

>>8999883

[gaspar No.8999991]

>>8999972
Not a bad fit =/= good fit

2.5 fit imo.

[HY DE No.9000010]

>>8999991
really??

it adheres tom the goth/ninja hype but it's a good fit/ i'd sub in identical fitting-cargoes, but it's very good otherwise.

[Anonymous No.9000020]

>>8999972
Please leave your not even funny by Australian standards and your fits suck. Why are you still here?

[sieg heil !szTe0VDR1w No.9000035]

>>8999859
yeah that website is utterly ridiculous
it's a bunch of ~punk Rawk~ myspace kids who haven't grown up.

they even act like they're stuck in high school too.

i feel bad for that "william kunkel" dude and his daughter making fun of him for wearing rick owens all day errday

but if your dad came to your school wearing a skirt and nipples fully exposed in a asymetrical hem tank top you would be embarrassed too

[Anonymous No.9000036]

>>9000020
>not even funny by Australian standards
ouch

[Anonymous No.9000044]

it's fun to browse cause of how sceney it is. other than that i'd rather not dress up like an edgelord to please faust every day

[Anonymous No.9000072]

>>8999859
you faggots just don't get fashion
that fit is better than anything posted in a waywt in the past year.
>>8999891
How are you hating on the shirt?
Stop reaching you fucking cocksucker

overall stance is awk b/c it's a nigger wearing the clothes.

[Anonymous No.9000083]

>>9000072
>overall stance is awk b/c it's a nigger wearing the clothes
you had me until there, he looks awkward because he's doing that dumb fucking fashion fitpic powerstance and is probably insecure

[Anonymous No.9000100]

>>9000083
look how fucking weird his skin and lips looks
ofc hes insecure

[Anonymous No.9000225]

>>9000072
Of course it's better than here, the fits posted here are almost always shit, but to have spent thousands on that fit just to have it look sloppy and ill fitting is sad. Especially since Faust think that look good. SZ is even worse than /fa/ and Sufu when it comes to brand whoring.

[sieg heil !szTe0VDR1w No.9000257]

>>9000225
this, everything i own is sloppy and ill fitting

mostly because im fat and ugly as piss

but hey at least i didn't spend thousands to do it ...wait shit i did

well at least i can put away a large big mac combo at mcdonalds in one sitting

[Anonymous No.9000264]

>>8999859
it was good till it wasnt
faust sold out, spread misinformation and the newfags who benefitted or didnt know better pushed these lies as truth. a lot of the good info / fits etc was deleted too.

You can still wade through the lies and find some useful stuff, but I dont expect newfags to be able to and its sad.

[sieg heil !szTe0VDR1w No.9000280]

>>9000264
bawww moar dogs in fits /fa/

[Anonymous No.9000290]

>>9000280
shut up faglord, I know your trip and i'm not afraid to use it.
p.s. plz respond

[Anonymous No.9000309]

>>9000290

[Anonymous No.9000313]

>>9000309

[Anonymous No.9000535]

>>9000313
Tfw this dog is more /fa/ than me

[Anonymous No.9000547]

>>9000020

[Anonymous No.9000610]

I love that Faust will talk mad shit about designers because they won't talk to him/align themselves with SZ.

I also love that his name is Faust and he takes pictures with books and swords and shit jesus what a manbaby.

Don't take /fa/ too seriously when you grow up or you will a Faust.

[Anonymous No.9000658]

>>9000610
>goes by faust
>ends up making faustian deal with sz by perpetuating shit designers for profit and shunning anyones thoughts that doesnt align with his even when its the truth
lehappyeugeneface.jewpeg

[None !LOVE/pPi0E No.9001248]

>>8999859
its not the epitome of fashion, it's a niche

but so is /fa/

[Anonymous No.9003186]

>>9000658
>>9000658
for real man.
i know timber got kicked out cuz she called out bbs for the bs it is?

[Anonymous No.9003200]

>>9003186
I don't know about Timber although I think I heard that too. But ice seen first hand people getting banned for really similar stuff I even saw someone get either banned or their picture deleted because it had a brand Faust didn't like.

[Anonymous No.9003472]

I always thought BBS looks stupid, but are there other legit complaints?

[Anonymous No.9003479]

>>8999859
mid life crisis fashion victim central

[Anonymous No.9003499]

>>9003472
terrible construction (not quality, but actual knowledge about how garments work), derivative design

[Anonymous No.9003580]

>>9003472
>>9003499
they have some good texture treatment but nothing people like CCP hasn't done. as the other dude said designs are derivative and usually someone has done it better. The whole "hip-hop inspired" thing Boris keeps saying is a huge lie, which is sad because I would love to see someone do a runway interpretation of old school 90's wear like oversized leather jackets and camo (Raf simons kinda did shit like this tho)

[Anonymous No.9003592]

the website has its own particular audience and its own particular expected performance
just as any, and every single other venue out there

take it for your good, leave the bad to fester.

[Anonymous No.9003599]

>>9003499
in what way is boris poorly constructed?

>>9003580
that's rick owens, he does both of those things.

[Anonymous No.9003711]

>>9003599
yes but remember the way raf did it? the influence was undeniable. Raf's whole thing is taking subcultures and creating an interzone or whatever out of it. The huge camo bomber was like that

[Anonymous No.9003729]

>>9003711
yeah but rick does it better
he doesn't even make a ~critical~ interzone, he doesn't need to
he wakes up, feels something in his mind grippnig him, gets possessed for a bit, lamly channels it, and starts drapping all these magnificent silks, leather, and wools into so much more, spanning so much more.

[Anonymous No.9003748]

>>9003729
That's what seperates Rick for me, he actually believes in something. I look at other designers, I don't really see people that believe in anything. That's why it's worth the money, to me.

[Anonymous No.9003764]

>>9003748
i don't really associate rick with faith or piety
like gracefully stumbling around a chi wah wah shit on the way to margarita monday

[Anonymous No.9003774]

>>9003748
you're not looking hard enough when it comes to other designers and you're projecting your own pre-conceived opinion onto whatever Rick does. He says himself that his work isn't overly deep.

I think what he mostly believes is that his clothes are great, and that's why he is always seen wearing them. He's said before that it seemed kind of fraudulent for designers to put out these unique and innovative garments down the runway and then come out for their bow in jeans and a t-shirt. So I would say he believes in himself and his own universe, but I can't say that separates him from other designers.

I own more clothing from Rick than any other designer, but I'm not deluded enough to think he is operating on a higher plane conceptually to all of his contemporaries. I think ultimately what it comes down to is that he makes amazing clothing like >>9003729, but I can't get on board with the wishy-washy description which says more of the posters adoration than any actual knowledge

[Anonymous No.9003777]

>>9003764
>like gracefully stumbling around a chi wah wah shit on the way to margarita monday
Someone make a comic of rick gracefully stumbling around a chi wah wah shit on the way to margharita monday

[Anonymous No.9003797]

>>9003774
there's nothing wrong with not looking hard enough and there's nothing wrong with having an opinion.

i found that in a lot of rick's commentary about his work there is a huge element of uncertainty and anxiety with his output. concerned about the response, but it'll usually always end in the sentiment 'i've made it here so i guess i haven't fucked up too bad'.

i think he just designs from himself so its no surprise he finds himself in his designs

>fraudulent for designers to put out these unique and innovative garments down the runway
i never understood this, i think it was playful/in jest.

i think he is operating a different plane, one less interested in social commentary.
like, i think there is social commentary but rick doesn't go out of his way to manifest it, if it's there it's there because its historically come to be associated and he found himself in that image. i think carpe diem, devoa, helmut lang, issey miyake... operate in a similar way
while labels like hussain chalayan, yohji yamamoto, raf simons operate in way that is attentive to a social movement or circumstance.

maybe it is wishy washy, but it's what i feel, and i don't think my feelings are based in nothing.
i think rick is all about compassion and well being.

[Anonymous No.9003812]

>>9003797
go to bed tl

[Anonymous No.9003835]

>>9003797
different plane, I agree. I agree with most things you've said actually and I assume you're the one who posted the image from gleam(?) and not the anon who thinks Rick is separated from other designers on the basis of "believing in something".

That was what I really took issue with, you were just trying to describe how you understand Rick and there's certainly something to be said about the way a designer can make you feel, even if it isn't grounded in hard facts. A close friend asked me how much my Ramones cost the other day and I basically told them that I spend that much for a few reasons, the materials, the look etc. but above all else I just see Rick as being worth my money because of his integrity (both artistically and the way he operates his label), and there's very few designers I can say the same about.

[Anonymous No.9003864]

>>9003835
the thing i hate most is when people just buckle without providing any sort of resistance despite disagreeing.

anyway, to answer the 'feeling something', because without concrete evidence some people feel its worthless, rick has said on numerous occasions that he doesn't really design with a mood board, or any sort of thought constellation tool, rather just feels something psychologically and emotionally, and responds to it. i truly believe he just maintains all the thoughts and feelings of whatever moment dictates his design period, the only assembly done is with the fabrics in which way they should be molded to achieve his vision.
he feels, and thinks way before he acts - that much is obvious.
so, this is actually also grounded in hard facts, because you were so concerned.

the moment i have to justify my obsession in the advent of sacrifice is the same moment i step into the sake bar.

[Anonymous No.9003876]

Kill yourself Hani

[Anonymous No.9003887]

>>9003876

[Anonymous No.9003890]

>>8999859
Top half of that is fantastic lol

[Anonymous No.9003893]

>>9003876
i actually hadn't posted in this thread, but seeing this on the front page r-really made my night anon
thanks
;_;

[Anonymous No.9004031]

>>8999862
then there's something wrong with you.

[Birthday !pUznlSIzPQ No.9004092]

How to bring back the old trips 101
1. Start a SZ thread
2. Let the thread go it's own way for a while
3. Start to let the thread die so it is forgotten.
4. Bump it by bringing into question the quality or inspiration behind a designer
5. Write a few uninformed comments
Bam suddenly there they are. I hope this could help you all incase you ever needed to resurrect old spirits of /fa/.

[Anonymous No.9004137]

>>9004092
Suck my dick Birthday.

[Anonymous No.9004141]

>>9004092
1. Fuck yourself, birthday.
2. It's clearly just turny and junior, and they show up for pretty much any non-meme designer discussion

[Anonymous No.9004200]

>>9004141
Only ever see them in these threads since there are hardly any actual designer threads anymore.

[Anonymous No.9004305]

>>9003876
>chink
>manlet
>glasses
>munted face
>post-avant jazzcore

tbh surprised he's lasted this long

[Anonymous No.9004328]

>>9004141
>>9004092
This is exactly what is wrong with /fa/. No one on this board has any ambition to learn anything about fashion. You see actual fashion discussion and you immediately conclude that it's the old trips, as if anyone else is incapable of or prohibited from discussing fashion on this shithole. Birthday I recall you were trying to learn about fashion after your disastrous debut on this board, no? What happened? Someone attacked your legitimacy because you weren't born with fashion knowledge so you decided to become a cynical cunt who dresses like shit and knows nothing about fashion? I think willingness is the only prerequisite for engaging in fashion discussion and trying to learn more about the subject.

I think it was timber(?) who said that people who discovered Rick Owens after the nod from Wintour have no more legitimacy than people who discovered him after A$AP told us what he is usually dressed in. It's hyperbolic, but it would help foster a much more inclusive attitude toward people who want to begin learning about fashion now, which is seriously lacking from all online fashion communities. I'd rather try to summon people who will actually discuss fashion than participate in the other 90% of threads on this board that truthfully belong on /adv/ or r/mfa or moot should just change the board to /fa/ - hair and beauty.

>>9003864
I wasn't buckling, I just don't know exactly what you're trying to argue. I just said that the way you described Rick's process says more about the emotional attachment you have to him as a designer than it says about what is actually being produced.

>starts drapping all these magnificent silks, leather, and wools into so much more, spanning so much more.

That's just drooling over him, it doesn't say anything. What is the 'so much more'?

>i truly believe...
>so, this is actually also grounded in hard facts

You'll have to forgive me for not really understanding everything you're trying to get across.

[Anonymous No.9004337]

>>9004328
you seem like a cool guy, do you have any recommended reading material

[Anonymous No.9004353]

>>9004328
>>9003876

[Anonymous No.9004356]

>>9004328
i;m not going to cite anything for you because i don't have the time but he's suggested a similar procedure and it seems realistic to me.

he does a lot of drapery in silks, wools and leather, oppulent variations of it to boot.
the so much more being how he pulls together, samples, and forges all of these whack aspects of himself into the product - and it translates exceptionally well.

i truly believe this is how rick operates
he hasn't indicated otherwise

[Anonymous No.9004361]

>>9004356
what a fucking manlet lmfao

[Crept No.9004363]

>>8999859
Again, not really bad - but it's hopefully being worn to some kind of special event / would not want to be seen with this person

[Anonymous No.9004367]

>>9004361
if this helps

[Anonymous No.9004405]

>>9004328 (continued)
For me, the allure of Rick Owens is that he is the perfect combination of facets of other designers which I admire. I'll try to ignore the fact that leather jackets are now being manufactured in moldova in saying this, but Rick's presence and involvement in fabric selection and garment construction etc. for me puts him above designers who are more interested in communicating a vision through their clothes, over the actual clothes that reach their consumers. I think this is all the more impressive given the scale of his operations. I think Schneider and Song for the Mute amongst others do this aspect of the business a little bit better than Rick, but they have much less orders to fill, so they can afford spending more time selecting fabrics or creating them from scratch. They also experiment with materials a little more than Rick has, especially lately, but SS15 womens collection was definitely interesting from that perspective (though the show itself was a little one-dimensional, even still I absolutely loved some of the pieces). On the other hand, Rick experiments with silhouette a lot more, and easily has a more interesting archive than either of the brands I mentioned because of this.

Then there's his vision/aesthetic, which like he says, the same idea shown from different perspectives. Again, with Rick I always come back to integrity, he has such a clear identity, in the way he handles himself in interviews, in the way he handles his business, in the way he didn't sell out to a conglomerate and ultimately in the way he continues to play upon the same aesthetic and vision which is so iconically his. He said it's all been in his head from the beginning and I truly believe that, people talk about the hip-hop influence on his work but I really think the influence operates in the opposite direction.

[sieg heil !szTe0VDR1w No.9004408]

>>9004328
>This is exactly what is wrong with /fa/. No one on this board has any ambition to learn anything about fashion.

there are more designers than rick owens in this world

infact rick is actually pretty low on the scale as far as talent goes.

calling these shitty children who dress like shit because they don't now of any other designer in the world...experts is pretty sad.

i like how when i mention the labels i wear you say something about how "nobody cares about BRANDS" however if its a rick owens discussion it's an enlightened designer conversation..

[Birthday !pUznlSIzPQ No.9004409]

>>9004328
Im still gathering and learning about fashion but that's not what u come to this website for. No one on this site besides a very exclusive few actually have any real interest in everything fashion entails. I would love to consider myself on of those people but obviously not on the level of you or any others( I still have a ridiculous amount to learn and actually experience not to mention grow), but I have found it absolutely pointless to do what your doing. Just spouting off essays to the same people who hold similar views to you, or if y have different views they are so deeply rooted they won't change. 95% of the visitors here haven't the slightest clue what this entire thread is about and to me that is sad. Of course I could be more productive write long responses on what I believe but first off my knowledge isn't deep enough to do that and it's just a waste of time. I come here to fuck around and release steam. I don't actually believe anything I type besides Hedi being a hack but even that is rather uninformed. As for me reacting to people's attacks on my knowledge they were somewhat called for but not to the degree they took it. I was saying stuff I didn't know but to just stomp on someone like that is pointless it's like someone to stop making art or trying to solve a problem, it doesn't hurt to get things wrong knowledge isn't a streamline process. So yeH for a while I was probably just mad that people had called me on the legitimacy of my opinions but at this point me talking ahit or insulting someone doesn't hold to that at all. Maybe some day I'll be more like you willing to discuss at lengths what he knows to others on the Internet,but for right now I'll just continue finding more articles to read and runways to watch and fuck around with the people here. Becuase right now I'm pretty board with just getting everything I know from people on the Internet.

[Anonymous No.9004425]

>>9004409
Sorry for the grammatical and spelling mistakes I didn't have time to proofread this at all.

[Birthday !pUznlSIzPQ No.9004430]

>>9004409
Sorry for the grammatical and spelling mistakes I didn't have time to proofread this at all.

[Anonymous No.9004432]

>>9004409
>Just spouting off essays to the same people who hold similar views to you
what's wrong with carefully articulating your own opinions? just because there's no opposition doesn't mean it can't be valuable discussion

[sieg heil !szTe0VDR1w No.9004433]

>>9004425
>>9004430
conversation with himself

[Anonymous No.9004436]

>>9004409
>I come here to fuck around and release steam
>Hedi being a hack
>I'm only being a stupid fuck IRONICALLY XDDD
you literally are the living meme
regurgitating EVERY single thing /fa/ says
seriously Birthday you're fucking pathetic

[Anonymous No.9004438]

>>9004409
>>9004425
living proof of the samefag
got that copy paste trip shit on LOCKDOWN

[Anonymous No.9004439]

>>9004405 (continued)
So you can see I really respect Rick and love his work. All I am trying to say is that I believe the work he has put out is his way of communicating himself to us. If he believes in anything, it is in his own worldview and he wants to include us all in it. Now whether that has the same depth as artists who have a social narrative that traverses their careers output is an issue that can be discussed at length, but I was really only taking exception to the comment that Rick is separated from other designers on the basis of believing in something, when that is such an incredibly narrow view. I don't even think you and I are arguing the same points but I just felt I needed to write what I wrote and you probably felt the same way.

>>9004337
Interviews mostly. If you're enrolled at a university you should have access to some good electronic resources on the history of fashion but the literature really can't keep up with how quickly fashion moves so online articles do the job for me. If you're incredibly patient you can go through the sz designer threads, though the problem is that they are littered with posters discussing wearing/buying the clothes (b-but style zeitgeist isn't a consumption platform, r-right?). Faust seriously needs to clean those threads up because they would be invaluable resources for anyone keen to learn about certain designers. The problem is that Faust has no interest in anyone learning about fashion if they didn't join his forum before 2008. And hang around on /fa/ because you have a good attitude and this place really does have potential, if we can get it through people's heads that w2c nikes and adidas threads have 0 to do with fashion

[Anonymous No.9004447]

>>9004408
It's a start. If you want to talk about the merit of Rag & Bone vs. APC and Acne you can make a thread for it. I'd still consider it unworthy of discussion but you'd probably be able to pull a few kids out of hair threads into it so they can learn something

[Anonymous No.9004448]

>>9004439
>interviews
>sz archives
>online articles
already doing all of the above as well as constantly looking at grad collections and keeping up with my local scene, but it's just not enough. i've been considering taking up a cert iv class in fashion and design largely for access to their library.

[Birthday !pUznlSIzPQ No.9004453]

>>9004432
Just a difference of opinions. I really only find enjoyment in discussing things if their is an opposition or something pressing me to voice my opinions to in the best way possible. Which I don't think would happen for me if I did this at least on this site.
>>9004433
Fuck off. I honestly can't grasp why people use this guys trip do you want to voice your opinions under the pretense your a obese Mexican man? Whatever I posted two comments because I forgot to put on my trip.
>>9004436
Nice.

[Anonymous No.9004455]

thread is a clusterfuck but i'll answer the original post--

SZ is like /fa/ with nothing but tripfags. /fa/ is a lot more lively, but that's because it's full of dummies who are too intimidated to post anywhere they'd actually have to register and live with an actual reputation. knowledge on SZ is slightly higher than /fa/ but there's plenty of cringe regardless. care-tags is the same shit with less lame edge, and sufu too. fashion forums rot your brain.

/thread

[Anonymous No.9004458]

>>9004453
Who's you're fav designer , why and what pieces of clothing do you own by them?

[Anonymous No.9004459]

>>9004455
>fashion forums rot your brain
i can't agree with this enough

[Birthday !CvLzVBjPAs No.9004462]

>>9004458
Raf Simons fall winter 2013
Exclusive PLAY sneakers of Commes Des Garcon by Rei Kawakubo
Like Birkenstocks n' stuff

[Anonymous No.9004464]

>>9004409
This is a valid stance, I just wish you could be more resilient because I think the end result is worth it. A place like sz is absolute hell to discuss fashion in right now. I think Faust went for a check up at the doctor's recently and discovered he's 5'3 and not 5'4 like he told all his friends because he is picking fights and banning users left, right and centre. This place is so much more discussion friendly, and the knowledge is there in the shadows, but it generally goes unprovoked and the overall quality of the board deteriorates.

[Anonymous No.9004465]

>>9004455
>who are too intimidated to post anywhere they'd actually have to register and live with an actual reputation
That's fucking retarded
Its the opposite, sites where you have a name is just full of bullshit cliques and circlejerk, not to mention just pure lack of honest opinions lot of times. I'd much rather get harshly shat on here for posting on WAYWT than told how my fit is just fine buy some apologist on forum I have to log on.
"Internet reputation" means fucking nothing in the first place how can anyone think like this?

[Anonymous No.9004469]

>>9004462

[Anonymous No.9004474]

>>9004465
having a name and reputation at the very least seems to have a positive impact on the standard of photography. /fa/'s WAYWT's would be a millions times better if every fit wasn't seen through a dirty mirror on a smartphone camera.

[Anonymous No.9004480]

>>9004448
If anything I'd take up a course in tailoring or pattern cutting. I think that would give you a far more unique and valuable perspective on designer's output than a course in fashion.

[Birthday !pUznlSIzPQ No.9004481]

>>9004464
I know I should have some thicker skin and not get so angry so fast but it's easy and I kind of enjoy it. I'll probably try being more positive and articulating my thoughts in a more easy to read and intelligent manor we'll see. Honestly thanks for being reasonable with me and not just writing me off even though it's deserved it's really nice to have a reasonable discussion on this website maybe I will change my mindset to this website.

[Anonymous No.9004483]

>>9004474
>having a name and reputation at the very least seems to have a positive impact on the standard of photography
The thing is, this is 4chan. I can only speak for myself but I simply know better than post my pictures here. Not that I post my pictures everywhere on the internet, but this would be the last place to put them.
And as far as /fa/ WAYWT goes, most of the time it seems it's people unsure about their fits and looking for criticism and advice and I think that's fine, I never understood why WAYWT is the be-all-end-all place to judge the quality of fashion forums on.

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.9004504]

>>9004481
dude you're a fag lmao

[Anonymous No.9004508]

all im seeing is pages and pages of dead imageshack images

[sieg heil !szTe0VDR1w No.9004509]

>>9004504
fag being pretentious in his shitty licensed diffusion line collab converse over about what he rad on the internet

[Anonymous No.9004512]

>>9004439
>if we can get it through people's heads that w2c nikes and adidas threads have 0 to do with fashion

I don't want to be a buzzkill or anything but you don't seem to understand how 4chan works.

Basic/daily life fashion shit is always going to be in this board same for the haircut threads because actually /adv/ sends those anons to >>>/fa/.

You need to learn to tolerate both. The basic-fags who just want to dress up to get a date with that qt shy girl in their college and the avant-fags who want to dress up for themselves and project an "image of the future".

Remember the shitstorm this caused in 2012? you need to learn to live among them, it isn't about arrogance because "you know better" you're being arrogant like Faust with that mindset. That was his mistake.

This could happen only if Moot made a /hfa/ - high fashion realistically speaking... I'm fine with /fa/ even through it gets a lot of shitposting daily, I have been for 4 years now.

And btw what Sieg says about Owens is probably right... (all this is subjective through since its preference) I like Julius or Yohji more than Owens and I'm those who thinks that Owens is overrated and this is because Modern Rap made him popular and hyped.

Again all this is subjective and personal preference.

[Anonymous No.9004517]

>>9004480
tailoring and pattern cutting are part of the coursework, the class is fairly all-encompassing with a lot of hands-on work. i'd rather do something more specific but it's not something that's readily available in my city.

[Anonymous No.9004548]

>>9004512
I don't agree with you at all. Correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like you're saying because they are the majority here he has to appeal to the lowest common denominator. If he has this knowledge and wants to express it you can't just tell him he can't do it because it comes off as pretentious. It's a fashion board not dress to get girls or look normal board. You are here because you are interested in fashion, imagine if you went to /mu/ and discussed the most bland and derivative bamd/artists you would be laughed off the board. That doesn't happen here but it absolutely should. Everyday there are more and more off topic threads that have nothing to do with fashion. Not to sound like I'm shit posting but if all you want is to look good or have the most basic and bland grasp of fashion possible just go to reddit.

[Anonymous No.9004557]

>>9004462
u wear this pleb shit and call Hedi a hack lmao

[Anonymous No.9004572]

>>9004548
I'm just saying that both can coexist and that the one who bitches/the one who gets mad is the one who is just wasting his time in 4chan.

You're not thinking about the userbase... 4chan is filled with college fags with simple needs and a simple life.

And actually. I can. I can respect that.

There is no point in being an asshole to other people, we got the advice for them after all... Ignoring them would be a dick move.

4chan is open to the public as fuck and will always be, by this I mean that things are how they are because 4chan is an anonymous image board. Anyone can come and post whatever they want at any time also moderation is pretty light (actually there are boards with no moderation as well).

So just let the userbase do whatever they please and roll with them since it is inevitable.

[Anonymous No.9004585]

>>9004557
Hedi is a hack but birthday is also shit, discard his opinions.

[Anonymous No.9004588]

>>9004455
i dunno man, the members at zedr and recently cns have stepped up their game a lot.

[Anonymous No.9004590]

>>9004557
>>9004462
Don't own the Raf sweater anymore, hardly wear the cons anymore because the heart honestly pisses me off(I might sew a patch over it). Besides that I don't own too many designer prices and almost all of the are second hand since that's really all my income can stand. I could save up for retail but I don't really see the point when I could find something in almost perfect condition for cheaper and I haven't found many pieces in these past seasons that I particularly like. Here are the designer brands u own right now
CDG Black
Undercoverism
Silent(kind of designer)
Our Legacy(another kind of)
Helmut Lang
Patrick Ervell
Gosha Rubchinskiy
And a few other midrate not quite designer brands
Obviously nothing even close to impressive but I'm fine with it.

[Anonymous No.9004621]

>>9004590
>1 ervell jumper
>2 undercoverism graphic t shirts
>1 silent tank
>1 OG helmut lang pair of dress pants
>1 gosha jumper
Cutting edge designer wardrobe. You're def not a fashion victim or anything.
Mirin dat lack of personal style or any hint of cohesion and consistency bruh

[Birthday !pUznlSIzPQ No.9004801]

>>9004621
Inaccurate in the actual pieces but that's fine. I think my fits look fine I know why people don't like them though and that's fine.
>mirin that lack of personal style or any hint of cohesion and consistency
I really dont understand when people say this? I dont want to just have one look or style if I have an expensive wardrobe to me thats pointless. I like having different styles obviously I have my favorites but I would never want just one style I would become bored with it fast and eventually want a new one. This would leave me thousands of dollars out and having to resell all my pieces. That doesn't sound appealing at all so I will stick with my semi inconsistent wardrobe that I enjoy.

[Anonymous No.9004808]

>>9004801
So what pieces do you have then?
It's not about 1 look or 1 style you inbred it's that if you were genuinely interested in fashion you'd have one consistent detail that shines through out all your fits regardless of the pieces because you would eventually lean towards it. It's called not being a poser cunt.
Take straw for example. I don't really like his fits but if he blocked out his face and changed his background to a volcano you'd still know it's him because his style is ~~personal~~ as he actually enjoy fashion unlike you who just flip flops between whatevers hip according to teens and queers.

[zachipster No.9004809]

>>9004801
Which raf aw 2013 did you get rid off?

[Anonymous No.9004815]

>>9004809
He means raf ss14 (his ombre)

[zachipster No.9004822]

>>9004815
Oh that one sucks. Black/green one is sick

[Anonymous No.9004826]

>>9004822
Yeah boi

[Birthday !pUznlSIzPQ No.9004865]

>>9004808
Whatever I'm pretty sure your the same guy who always shows up and writes these long winded meaningless responses that always have the same arguments and insults. If I'm being completely honest I like straws fits but there is little consistency at all between them. I don't know why having a consistent style is so important to you that you tell me this every thread, I have a style but it's not very defined because I don't have the funds to do that. How am I poser I don't claim to be a punk when I wear undercover or some rebel Russian when I wear gosha. I just wear them how I like them acknowledge the style and the inspiration behind them but I don't try to copy it or pretend that's me.

[Anonymous No.9004876]

>>9004865
>Poser - Someone who tries to fit in by copying others but fails
With no personal style you're doomed to live behind this façade and no excuse you make will save you.
Btw i'm not the "same guy" who talks to you , i'm just one of many people that thinks you should fuck off to /v/ or where ever you came from.

[Birthday !pUznlSIzPQ No.9004887]

>>9004876
Who do I copy? Honestly maybe like 3 months ago yeah but even then they weren't exact copies. Do you understand how sad his obsesssion with my style is? Go improve yourself and stop worrying about me.

[Anonymous No.9004893]

>>9004887
>Do you understand how sad his obsesssion with my style is?
No I don't because I have no idea what you're on about.
And you copy cookie cutter fits otherwise known as being a poser
>le minimalist fit
>le techwear fit
>le palewave fit
When are you going to find an aspect of fashion that really resonates with you and start thinking for yourself instead of parroting what evers cool atm?
Pleb.

[Anonymous No.9005037]

>>9004893
>And you copy cookie cutter fits otherwise known as being a poser

Anyone can do whatever they want anon... even an attention whoring tripfag. Matters not.

As I said before roll with it or just ignore. Getting mad about it changes nothing.

[Birthday !pUznlSIzPQ No.9005159]

>>9004893
What you are unwilling to acknowledge here is that people can like and want to emulate extremely diverse styles. I love billowy oversized looks Yohji, JJVE but also techy stuff like Aitor and Veilance. If I had hundreds of thousands of dollars and could buy whatever I wanted there is no way I would only buy one of those styles or even just those two. I love both of those styles and they are probably my favorite but you can't dress that way all the time I would still like some clean extremely tailored pieces in my wardrobe like Jil and also some some grimey punk inspired pieces as well. What I'm trying to say is I'm never going to go by just one style or follow some weird standard that you want me to. Can we stop this obviously neither of us are going to change are opinions so we can just stop this.

[Anonymous No.9005345]

>>9004405
i don't see anyone doing rick but rick, i think i see him in other designers
song for the mute i can't say anything good about.
rick actually has a pretty impressive R&D, especially with leathers, wools, silks and now some metals again.

i don't know what you mean by one dimensional, i don't feel rick to be that - if i was to describe the angles which i recognise he is coming from it is at least skitzo.

rick has a better sillhouette than song for the mute because sftm is headed by a pretty untalented design student who often looks to rick (among others, but heavily rick) for design.

i don't care much for how rick's identity in itself, i care for what is translated intp the product - the clairvoyance he often brings to interviews is just helpful in seeing things.

i don't know, this entire post i don't really feel much in - it's like you've done all this 'hard work' and come to exactly 0, basal, ground. if rick isn't your thing, move on.

>>9004439
im not interested in respect for ricks character.
its weird how uncomfortable this is making me but i really think you should go watch the interviews and try some rick on or something.

this thread went weird fast.

[Anonymous No.9005368]

>>9005345
Where did you gather he doesn't like Rick. I think he was just arguing that Rick isn't as focused on social commentary as you said he was but instead takes an emotion or even an event and creates from there. He is not designing directly from these events or emotions but using them as mediums for inspiration. I think k you both like Rick a lot but just have different ideas for where he draws his design process from. This is all assuming u have been able to maintain the two sides of the argument this entire thread so I might be completely wrong on who you are.

[Anonymous No.9005401]

>>9005368
because i didn't feel anything when i read it, just like - the net average of random popular ideas. like looking at a waywt.

i don't know, it was studded these weird, like, personal hero feelings or something without any reality or thought.

it would only take me a second to run through and green text what exactly i don't agree with but it comes down to almost everything. i don't understand this perspective or sentiment at all - that's okay for me.

>He is not designing directly from these events or emotions but using them as mediums for inspiration
this seems to be the only pervasive conversation - like everyone is paraphrasing my first post.

wholly without

[Anonymous No.9005412]

Birthday please stop.

[Anonymous No.9005454]

>>9005401
You're writing style is extremely hard to follow. Beyond train of thought difficult, it's almost schizo. I honestly can't really pick out what you're trying to say because of your overuse of punctuation and just stopping thoughts mid sentence and beginning another. But it's cool you feel so passionate about this stuff.

[Anonymous No.9005458]

>>9005454
Your*

[Anonymous No.9005798]

Bump
In hopes this thread can lead to more awesome discussions.

[Anonymous No.9006207]

>>9005345
>song for the mute I can't say anything good about

Not shocked that you say "there's nothing wrong with not looking hard enough" when it comes to other designers that you dismiss as untalented or derivative whilst having 0 understanding of the way they work. Rick can concurrently be "your thing" whilst you appreciate the work of other designers. I've spent around 10k this year on Rick and he dominates my wardrobe, but if I act like he isn't the only designer on earth he's not my thing and I should try on some Rick?

I didn't do any hard work writing those posts it just kind of came out as I imagine your posts do. I could post an image of a rick show every time I posted too but I don't want to confuse the anons as to who is who.

>>9004548
I went to bed but thank you for responding on my behalf, pretty much exactly what I was trying to say (right down to the /mu/ comparison which I wanted to avoid because of the inevitable slew of green arrows and the world implying)

[Anonymous No.9007418]

>>9006207
maybe, last i touched the work was 3months ago. maybe things have changed but it all just looks like really bad rick rips with uninspiring treatments, i think the hit thing were these gross/slimy feeling diesel dipped denim pants or something. i have no idea who the consumer is.

i don't understand this random severe ad hominem assault, but if it makes you feel better then i'm for it.

i'm proud you've spent so much on rick, it's a good choice.
it's not that i don't think other designers exist - far from the truth, but i don't think many designers (especially the hacks behind sftm) come even close to what he does. i know nothing about ss.
in the end, this was a rick conversation so there's no need to go all 'check these people out'. should retain.

sorry if you feel offended, i just read your responses and again, felt nothing.
don't feel too chastised by it, i think we just look for different things.

if there's anything in particular you take issue with - voice it in a sensible manner, i'll try get back to it in 5hours.

i would prefer if you posted rick owens pictures. something here might feel fulfilling at least. i don't think anyone will confuse us.

>quick scan through your several -continues-
what is being discussed here. i disagree with a lot of your points
i'll green text them
>experiment with materials a little more than Rick
> same idea shown from different perspectives.
> in the way he handles his business,
>Rick is separated from other designers on the basis of believing in something

it actually just looks like you've taken what i've already posted and stretched it out, not saying too much more but enough to fill 2000characters

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.9007437]

>>9005345
ricks a hack

[Anonymous No.9007441]

I joined that forum for all of day until I left. Faust is an autistic twat and the forum is gay as fuck.

[Anonymous No.9007492]

>>9007437
how so? if its because he's not doing anything original lately and just cashing out on his name, you are just a newbie to fashion because thats how it works. if its just because you dont like his designs, heres a cookie, thanks for sharing.

>>9007441
okay so you never joined it or got to know anything about it. imagine coming to /fa/ for a day.

[Anonymous No.9007497]

>>9007492
>being this delusional

[Anonymous No.9007546]

>>9003599
he implemented design techniques from ccp and l'maltieri but he misunderstood why they were used in the garments he took them from which effects drape and stuff. He also uses shitty lasts for his shoes.

I have absolutely no problems with him taking designs from other people, not sure why so many people in this thread do, thats just how the fashion industry works, and rightfully so.

[Anonymous No.9007555]

>>9007546
also this thread turned into >muh philosofag opinions right quick. 'le rick believes in something' 'le im going to parrot things i've heard and inject my own pseudointellectual opinions' -- what inane asshattery.

[Anonymous No.9007664]

>>9007555
I've read this post a few times and every time I re-read it I'm more and more convinced it's satire of the people in this thread. Good job man

[Anonymous No.9007679]

>>9003774
>>>9003748
> you're not looking hard enough
> when it comes to other designers

I don't doubt it, I'm pretty new to a lot of these deaigners. However, while I may not have built up an extensive base of knowledge for EVERY designer, I know what I like and what resonates with me, and the sort of art that I find attractive.

> and you're projecting your own
> pre-conceived opinion onto whatever
> Rick does.

Actually that's what you've done to me and my post. Cheers.

[Anonymous No.9007700]

>>9003774
>>>9003748
> you're not looking hard enough
> when it comes to other designers
I don't doubt it, I'm pretty new to a lot of this, I will admit. However, while I may not have built up an extensive base of knowledge for EVERY designer, I know what resonates with me, and the sort of art and artists that I find attractive.

> and you're projecting your own
> pre-conceived opinion onto whatever
> Rick does.
Actually that's what you've done to me and my post. I am not trying to advocate any "Rick mysticism". It was a thoughtfull response, though. Cheers.

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.9007717]

>>9007492
dont write at me like that kiddo im the best
rick sucks
ur a fag
hack loveing fag

[Anonymous No.9008130]

>>9007546
oh weird, i don't think i've really seen that much lmaltieri among boris's stock
mainly just ccp and rick

pics?
albeit altieri is seemingly the progenitor of everything.

i think it's just lame because it commands a similar price point without animating a similar ethical or client concern.

i.e. it operates in a way that deceives the consumer and preys on their cultural deficit.