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8820643 No.8820643[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

SJW's are scum.
Burn in hell.

>> No.8820649
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>>8820643
thank you

>> No.8820657

>>8820643
>thinking genders exist
>not realising it's a social construct in every single way

Looking forward to the 'muh dick makes me a man' and 'muh biology'.
Can you prove the moon exists too? No?

>> No.8820660

>>8820657
low quality bait my friend

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>> No.8820668

>>8820643

Who cares? It's a harmless delusion.

>> No.8820674

>>8820668
Let's call it a harmless delusion instead of a civil rights issue then.

>> No.8820677

>>8820660
I genuinely believe it, sorry piggy.
You can't prove anything, existentialism etc who fucking cares.

You're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

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>>8820677
This is barely coherent.

>> No.8820688

>>8820679
I think people like pigfuck are basing all of their views on emotions just like the left do, which is funny since people like piggy would say that's what the left do and hate them for it.

>> No.8820691

>>8820679
I really got caught there in her semantical loop for a sec. thanks for snapping me out of it.

>> No.8820693

Getting angry about SJW is just as bad as being one

Who cares LOL

>> No.8820696

>>8820688
The fact that chromosomes are either an X or a Y isn't an appeal to emotion...

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>>8820693
>>8820688
>>8820677

>> No.8820703

>>8820696
dont bother my friend, do not bother with these types of 'people'

>> No.8820705

>>8820649
Lack of moderation is worse than over-zealousness in some instances.

In social networking sites where politics aren't heavily involved strict moderation makes for a better experience for everyone. Allowing pathological bullies to incite needless arguments and troll unrestricted will only let discourage new users from staying and cause others to leave.

>> No.8820709

>>8820696
You don't realise that still doesn't mean shit.
You can only label something a gender, it's not there in the first place it always relies on an observer to make the gender distinction, it's a social construct.

Biology means nothing, it doesn't define anything.
Does having a different blood type make me a different gender? If we wanted to we could say that and make new labels but we don't, same goes to genders.

>> No.8820710

>>8820705
>bullied on the internet to the point where you feel as though u need to leave
jesus christ stay on 4chan

>> No.8820712

>tfw people don't realize that sex and gender are two different things.

>> No.8820717

>>8820709
Also

>how do you know genders exist?
>because of XY chromosomes
>how does that prove genders exist
>because
>how/why
>because

You can never prove anything, deal with it.

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>>8820709
>this person actually exists
>they breathe air
>they're sitting in a room somewhere typing this shit out on the internet because they actually believe this
>they arent 'trolling'
>its not bait
>they're just so abhorrently stupid they ACTUALLY believe this

>> No.8820720

Go back to your containment board, /v/

>> No.8820723

>>8820718
I could post a picture of me sucking myself off in a dress and I'd still be more respectable than you old piggy.

>> No.8820724

>>8820705
I't kind of the idea, though. Those who will stick around will have to be able to hold opinions and be ready to defend their point and engage in debate, which it encourages much more than bullying and trolling. And remember that in the end, you're the one who choses where you surf, what you read and who you engage with. Ignore the bullies and move on. it can be done.

>> No.8820758

>>8820660
why dont you leave tumblr if it's all so awful?
>>8820657
this is the piggy samefagging. /Fa/gs dont pretends to be SJWs.
anyway....
Also where do intetsex people and hermaphrodites go? There may be only two physical genders but depending on the hormones at work in the fetus' brain while in the womb , sometimes it can cause people to "feel" different. Which is why a boy who waI castrated at birth and given female hormoned later on didn't feel comfortable in his skin. He was a normal boy at birth. It isn't desirable or typical to have things go wrong in the womb but it happen.

>> No.8820760

>>8820712
>tfw when the left has convoluted the topic to the people think sex and gender are completely separate things
Sex usually refers to male and female traits that are involved in reproduction.
Gender usually refers to male and female traits not involved in reproduction.
For example, men having a larger body mass is a gender difference.

I think what you're trying to refer to is gender roles, these are a social construct and are not the same as sex or gender.
Please don't fall for the newspeak.

>>8820709
>Biology means nothing, it doesn't define anything.
good lord, next you're going to tell me that just because I don't have the DNA of a lemur doesn't mean I'm not a lemur.
X and Y chromosomes define many traits of what a human being is. Yes, the labels "male" and "female" and "X" and "Y" are social constructs simply by the fact that they are language, but the differences are real and can be seen in a wordless photograph.
Those differences manifest into the complicated process we people have for two parent reproduction.

>> No.8820766

>>8820760
you're wasting your time
i applaud your patience

>> No.8820773

>>8820766
I kinda enjoy talking to these wacko politcal leftists.
It helps refine my understand of the topic and their thought patterns every time.
This refines my ability to convert them in the best cases.

>> No.8820776

>>8820709
Who the fuck except you thrives on self-fllagelation?

Leaving b/c if bullying? Probably leaving because they recognize stupid fucking drama when they see it. I'd venture to say that most sane, intelligent adults wouldn't like participating in drama.

Only histrionic attention seekers tolerate the amount of dramatics that go on here.

>> No.8820788

>>8820643
I agree.

Also, they do it for free.

>> No.8820792

>>8820773

its always good to see responses like yours
a little bit of sanity

>> No.8820831

>>8820760
>next you're going to tell me that just because I don't have the DNA of a lemur doesn't mean I'm not a lemur

Well yes actually. There are plenty of people who don't fit in their human bodies, how do you know they are not really a lemur?

>> No.8820837

>>8820831
best part is, someone will actually take that bait

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>>8820831

>> No.8820874

a lot of this is missing the point. the bottom line is, assholes like pigfuck think they can tell other people who and what they are. that shit doesn't fly. even if they are "making it up" and have just convinced themselves they are something they arent (why the fuck would that many people do this, you think they want to be thrown out of their families and reviled by 90% of people just for fun?), everyone has the ultimate say on themselves. that is everyone's right. assholes who are too insecure to let other people be the way they want to be is just sad.

>> No.8820883

>>8820776
oh crap, wrong quote.
>>8820710

>> No.8820897

but how? There's eccentrics out there who actually think they have an animal spirit or something. Didn't native americans think that too?

....

Idgi

>> No.8820904

>>8820874
It's more than that. It's becoming more and more common because people like you are ~free luv~ and then it makes it's way into media and then impressionable young people who have no idea what they want. And then you have a society of speshul snowflake attention seekers

>> No.8820905

>>8820831
let's not get philosophical m8

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>>8820897
Comparing a human's traits with animal traits is a very common thing among most cultures.
It even shows in our language today, think of expression like
BOLD AS AN EAGLE

>> No.8820924

>>8820904
are you shitting me? people arent going to decide they are trans because they saw it on tv unless it just makes them realize they already are trans.
and take a look around you and tell me how it'd be a new thing to have a "society of special snowflake attention seekers"
are you stupid? this slippery slope bullshit is dumb as fuck

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>>8820924
its no surprise that our resident jew trip is defending sjw stupidity

>> No.8820963

>>8820952
speaking of attention seekers...

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>>8820963

>> No.8820982

Can we all just agree to never bring up Tumblr ever. Half the inspo there is just shit taken from other boards or from IG.

>> No.8820984

>>8820874
So how do you explain schizophrenics?
They, apparently, have final say on what reality they perceive and what reality we should enforce for them. Should we not recognize that they have mental deficiencies?

If you think "ultimate" jurisdiction on ones self translate to a right that everyone else needs to be responsible for, recognize, and uphold, you my friend, have a mental handicap.

>> No.8820990

>>8820963
Just ignore it man, I agree with you.
I was the one ITT going on about genders and shit, whether people like piggy like it or not what the tumblr crowd has to say us often logically sound, it's just a small minority that ruin it all.

>> No.8820993

>>8820990
you and piggy are just as moronic as one another

>> No.8820995

>>8820984
If I can explain how I agree with you that everyone has final jurisdiction on themselves, it means everyone has utmost ability to judge one's self, make one's decisions, and choose one's actions.

Implying I need to facilitate those three areas of jurisdiction is a bass ackward lie.

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>defending mental illness
>defending mentally ill people self mutilating

>> No.8821002

>>8820974
pigface pls go. You're creepy af.

how low do you have to be to pick on impressionable teens?

>> No.8821004

>>8820999
>I define mental illness, I do!
>left handed people are mentally ill!

>> No.8821010

>>8821004
Thanks for the definition, tumblr

>> No.8821016

Disgusting. Should be burned at the stake. Faggotry. " I'm a man in a womens body". No you are a man that has mental issues.

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>>8821004
Topkek

>> No.8821031

>>8820657
So... what you're saying is, although gender doesn't exist, it is a social construct.

>> No.8821054

>>8821031
Yes.

>> No.8821060

>>8821031
No, gender does exist but only as a social construct.
Misread and mobile so ignore the other post.

>> No.8821070

>>8820984
O Lawdy Lawdy

What's this?
Schizos are not deficient in any way, if their delusions didn't negatively affect their lives they'd just be 'weirdos'.

I don't think I'm recalling this correctly but effects of psychosis are a result of an imbalance affecting chemical pathways.

People who lack functioning limbs have a deficiency. Psychosis is curable.

People who choose to believe in the imaginary out of own will but suffer no impairments are weird, not ill.

>> No.8821073

>>8821060

>No, gender does exist but only as a social construct.

A.K.A: I failed High School Biology: The post

>> No.8821076

>>8820984
what? when a person tells you they are hearing voices, you tell them to go to a doctor and the doctors try to help them with the condition. never anywhere does anyone respond by saying "no, you dont hear voices, because I dont hear voices. get over it you must just be looking for attention". doctors help them understand themselves and give them tools to deal with their condition.

now how bout someone comes to you, tells you that they have been thrown out of their home at 16, had to struggle to survive, have trouble getting hired, get turned away at the majority of homeless shelters, get beaten on the street for the way they are. you tell them they are making it up or that everyone has the right to tell them they are an abomination and to ridicule and assault them. how is that similar to the schizo's case at all?

right now you are justifying these terrible fucking actions and thousands of others against other groups by saying "yeah everyone is master of themselves, so I have a right to be a fucking asshole and terrible person, its my right to be ignorant, oppressive, and hateful, and to continue destroying other peoples lives. they're masters of themselves, why dont they just deal with it?"

how can you not understand why I fucking despise this line of reasoning and anyone who falls prey to it?

>> No.8821093

>>8821073
Biology doesn't matter to me, I don't fucking care.
You're still relying in an observer, the Universe doesn't have a concept of gender even with biology.

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>>8821093

>> No.8821116

>>8821111
creeeeeeepy

>> No.8821117

>>8821111
Great argument, attack the plaintiff.
Nice quads though.

>> No.8821125

>>8821070
>People who choose to believe in the imaginary out of own will but suffer no impairments are weird, not ill.
So schizophrenia and gender disphoria are a choice?
The rest of your argument is a red herring because I was talking to the functionality of these diseased people, I'm talking about whether their disease constitutes a civil rights movement.

>>8821076
Unless you want to admit to cherry picking a made up anecdote to illustrate your point, what youre describing is that an essential part of the gender disphoria lifestyle is being abused.
I am not advocating that we should maim these people based on their mental illness.
We should not encourage it however, and if anything help them seek treatment.

Again, it's not a civil rights movement, it's a mental disease. Some folks have mental diseases and are perfectly fine functioning, job holding members of society. If they want to seek treatment, its up to them.

So, well played, nice strawman you emotional, bleeding heart, irrational chucklefuck.

>> No.8821128

>>8821093
>facts don't matter to me
This is the most ignorant, delusional post I have ever seen on this website.

>> No.8821129

>>8821125
Er, I "wasn't talking to functionality."
Typo

>> No.8821142

>>8821128
I don't believe in facts either so fuck you.
Are you new to nihilism, epistemology, existentialism?

You can only get close to a truth, that's why I said you can't prove the existence of the Moon. Sure it 'probably' does exist, but we'll never know one way or another, even landing on it isn't proof.

>> No.8821150

>pigfuck responds within a minute and a half
Jesus Christ, pig.
Leave the god damn basement, my nigga.

>> No.8821152

One can rear children, the other can't.

There, two genders.

>> No.8821154

>>8821152
Wow.
Incredible dude.

>> No.8821158

>>8821142
>i don't believe in facts
just because you don't believe in things like gravity or electromagnetism, that doesn't mean those things don't exist.

They are facts. Just like you are a faggot. That is a fact, whether you believe it or not.

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>>8821152
2 enlightened

>> No.8821163

>>8821158
#rekt

>> No.8821165

None of this has anything to do with fashion

>> No.8821166

>>8820674
THIS

SJWs are now referred to the Harmless Delusions

which is also my new band name

>> No.8821167

Transgenders will never be /fa/, why do they browse here with their ugly hybrid bodies?
There's a reason no-one makes clothes for them

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>>8821117
look man if u wanna play pretend and 'believe' ur a lady and put things up ur ass while wearing a wig and even step it up and take hormones and cut ur dick off etc.

go ahead, i am not telling u u cant, i am not advocating your murder, incarceration or harm.

however, dont expect me to swallow your shallow justification of it, and dont expect me to remain silent while u attempt to institutionalize your fetish/mental disorder as well as indoctrinate others and galvinise your fetish into something more important or profound than it is.

u have a right to do what u want with your body, and so do i, if i choose to ridicule you for being a mentally ill retard, thats my right, just like its ur right to be that mentally ill retard.

>> No.8821171

>>8821158
Not worth me sulking over like piggy and /pol/ do.

>why can't I show the entire world my /pol/ infographics, grr I hate the world being a white middle class person who spends all day using an anime imageboard is so hard!
>why aren't things the way I like!

>> No.8821172

>>8821111
>celebrate non-white diversity

ahaha fucking liberals are so fucking gay

>> No.8821173

>>8820693
sjw are bullies sometimes though

I know a guy who is in high school, and his friend ran for student council and won. one of the sore losers looked through his facebook, then found a comment from years earlier where he said "that's gay", and he used it to get him kicked off student council

it's not that I hate their ideas, I just hate how they get to fuck with other people's lives as much as they want because nobody sees that kind of bullying for what it is

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Its not acceptable for anyone to see themselves as a different gender.
If your born with a penis live with it you whiney little bitch
If your born with a vaj live with it you whiney little bitch.

Fuck I hate people who try to wash away the differences when they cant be washed away

>> No.8821175

>>8821171
https://www.tumblr.com

>> No.8821181

>>8821125
I addressed that part of your argument in my first post in the thread. you dont have the right to tell others that something is wrong with them. the disorder comes from being, in their eyes, born as the wrong gender. its not a fucking disease. they would all be perfectly fine members of society if the society wasn't rejecting them. so yes being abused is a pretty central point to all this.

>> No.8821182

>>8821142
>can't prove the existence of the moon
um, yes, we can. it exists because it exerts a force on the Earth because of its gravitational pull (see Tides). And I can fucking see it and there are people alive who walked on the fucker. Explain how it can't be proven to exist?

>> No.8821183

>>8821142
>Are you new to nihilism, epistemology, existentialism?
none of these things apply to your inane ramblings
idiot

>> No.8821184

>>8821175
>muh /pol/
lel

>> No.8821185

It makes me physically angry when smug sjws point out that I have "confused" gender with sex. Actually, gender was a perfectly valid word before some people hijacked it in the 70s and tried to make it mean something different. Why do I have to agree with these people? Why should your definition of gender trump my much older definition?

>> No.8821186

>>8821175
Never used it never will, food one though more attacking the plaintiff, you're great at that whenever someone has a legitimate argument.

Keep on being angsty and pissed off that the world doesn't follow your strange ideals from a Korean imageboard full of 17 year old 'Nazis' (not knowing its technically impossible to be a Nazi without being Germanic).

The world sure is shit huh? Must suck being white, being as to drop thousands on clothes from years gone.

>> No.8821187

>>8821182
BTFO
T
F
O

THE MOON EXISTS NIGGER

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>>8821181
>you dont have the right to tell others
the kike wants to take away freedom of speech
typical son of adam

>> No.8821194

>>8821174
honestly, I think they have a right to overthink their sense of gender and all that, but I'm sick of being told that I'm a bigot if I think they're fucking weird

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Basically there are two arguments
>sorry you cant call yourself a girl because you're a dude.
>YOUR AN IGNORANT FUCKR HOW DARE YOU INFRINGE ON MY RIGHT TO LOOK LIKE A TOTAL FREAK!?

>>8821194
I know bro. You can have the right to put a dress and high heels on but dont be surprised if you stay unemployed because you look like a total freak

>> No.8821202

>>8821198
>I AM SILLY!

>> No.8821203

>>8821181
>you dont have the right to tell others that something is wrong with them

Uh, yeah I do, this is America

And I would fight and die to defend my right or yours to say whatever bullshit we want

If you pull out that "You have no right to say X" shit near me IRL I will fight you

>> No.8821207

threads like this make me want to vote republican

>> No.8821209

>>8821168
white cis males are so in danger! holy shit guys we gotta watch out! I dont want my kids seeing a trans person!

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>>8821209

>> No.8821214

>>8821181
>you don't have the right to tell others what is wrong with them

wat?
You saying I can't go out and call a fatty a landwhale, a gay person a faggot, a black person a nigger? There is no right to be free from having your feelings hurt. Buck up buttercup, this world isn't fair and it isn't nice, grow some thick skin or become an hero

>> No.8821215

>>8821203
Ooh, strong man.
Are you a troop as well? Wow, big fighting gun shooter man, killing the Bad Guys who do the Bad thing.

They're the good guys, cops and the military, the cops put stupid civilians in the Justice Van and the military shoots down the bad guys, like the bad guys in a video game POWPOWPOW hahah, stupid idiots.

This is the price of FREEDOM. Freedom aint free boys.

>> No.8821218

>>8821209
the point is more that I don't want mentally disturbed people near my kids

>> No.8821222

>>8821125
Red herring?Really?

k.
well according to lit " altered levels of dopamine seem to be implicated in the manifestation if symptoms". (chemical imbalances cannot be detected by any known test) Someone not suffering from treatable biochemical abnormalities but holding fast to say, a stern belief in faeries is not mentally ill since their belief does not cause grief.


I don't think gender dysphoric ppl are fighting for civil rights as much as destigmatization. The "trend hoppers" who claim to be gray-sexual penguins from venus aren't really helping their case imo. Why even tell someone who isn't a sexual partner that? It's not my bsns to dictate to them what i approve of so whatever.

>> No.8821223

>>8821215
>wanting feelings to override freedom
europoor pls go, soon sharia law will ban you from using this imageboard

>> No.8821224

>>8821073
>gender and sex is the same thing
gender is a social construct
sex is biology
tah-dah

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>>8821209
I wouldnt want my kids to see a disgusting lab freak walking down my street.
Why would anyone want to see that ugly fuckn shit.
Those things are only successful in the arts or fashion because there is no degree of professionalism.
I have never herd nor seen a trans in a successful office job contributing anything to society other than its need to shove their "gender freedom" down everyones throats

What the fuck happened to men.
Why are the majority of us turning into candy asses who are afraid of our shadows..
>honor is dead
>morals are dead
>glory is kill

>> No.8821229

>>8821223
Classic meme dude. :^)
Gotta have some freedom.

I'm pro-gun and European but I think you're a twat for fetishising the military and police.

>> No.8821233

>>8821203
except that your transphobia affects people. you are perpetuating ideas that actively hurt people

so yeah again, you have the right to say whatever you want, but dont turn into a crybaby when I call you a shitty person for using that right in an irresponsible way

>> No.8821237

>>8821215
I didn't say I'd kill you, just that I'd rough you up a bit

It was a little bit tongue in cheek but you can't expect the literal minded sjws to pick up on stuff like that I suppose

I bet you think the Support Our Troops by Xiu Xiu is something more than fashionable and privileged whining

I bet you think it's poignant

lmao

>> No.8821240

>>8821237
>I bet you think ____
>I bet you think ______
>lmao

Oh boy.

>> No.8821241

the trick is, if you have surgery and take your penis off you don't become a woman just because you feel like a woman.

>> No.8821242

>>8821233

>you are perpetuating ideas that actively hurt people

And...? Are you saying there should be a law against it? Should there be a law against me making fun of all the femboys on /fa/ because it hurts their feelings?

STOP BEING SUCH A PUSSY AND DEAL WITH LIFE.

>> No.8821245

I still dont have a fuckin clue what SJW is, and why does everybody care?

>> No.8821247

>>8821224
gender is a social construct because oit was redefined so it could be a social construct.

The definition you're pushing is not even a century old, and not accepted by most normal people.

>> No.8821249

>>8821242
This...
Deal with it bitches
If you dont like it go complain on ur tumblr or freakforums

>> No.8821254

>>8821233
you said I did not have the right. admit that you're wrong and an idiot, faglord

>> No.8821255

>>8821224
gender roles are an expression of gender identity. None is strictly masculine or feminine, well rounded people poss traits regarded as both. There's also this genetic memory bsns I've been hearing about where behsvioral tendencies are passed doen genetically and linked to one's enviroment(which also affects gene expression).

>> No.8821256

Gender is black and white, but sexuality is all grey imo.

Everybody is a lil bit gay.

>> No.8821257

>>8821242
I just said there's no law against it and there shouldn't be. its YOUR responsibility to not be a shithead. its real easy to say just deal with it when you have never experienced fucking persecution. you sometimes think your life is hard? man mom bought grape jelly instead of strawberry jelly man life is so hard this is as bad as it can get for anyone

>> No.8821258

trans ppl are the worst. they never ever pass as what they're trying to be.

and it is the most cringeworthy un-effay thing to watch and be around. no you wide hipped high voiced 5'4 female you're not a 'queerboi'

>> No.8821262

>>8821240
I'm awaiting his confirmation or denial. I'm not using my guess as evidence of anything.

>> No.8821264

>>8821254
you have the right to say things. you dont have the right to define another person

>> No.8821266

>>8821258
I can tell you've never been to Thailand.

>> No.8821267

>2014
>gender roles
>social norms
someones biological sex has shit all to do with anything. why is this even on /fa/? what does this have to do with /fa/?
>bunches of butthurt neckbeards crying

>> No.8821272

>>8821257
BTFO holy shit.
Pigfuck is a straight white guy, imagine suffering that much.

>> No.8821274

>>8821257
>thinking you know anything about me
good job faggot with your logical fallacy
Anyway, you also believe that a doctor needs to have cancer first in order to understand how to treat your cancer?

Just stop posting. It isnt my responsibility to do anything other than preserve my freedoms and ensure my actions don't infringe on anyone else's freedoms. Outside of that, I can do whatever the fuck I want, but I need to deal with the consequences.

Just like fat people should have their own insurance exchange and deal with their right to be fat, but not their right to have me, a healthy person, pay more in premiums because fatties can't stop eating

>> No.8821277

The real questions are:
Is it effay to be an SJW or even talk about identity politics? No.

Is it effay to become huffy about something? No.

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>>8821267

>> No.8821282

>>8821277
is it effay to have cuffs and dress like a femboy? No.

>> No.8821289

>>8821277
anyone who uses 'effay' as adjective shouldnt concern themselves with fashion, because its 100% fact you're a poor, dumb teenage fuckhead.

best thread on /fa/ in months

>> No.8821291

>>8821274
>it isnt my responsibility
all humans of a responsibility to be kind and helpful to each other and to things that arent even human.

>> No.8821297

>>8821274
>preserve muh freedoms

I'm fucking cringing.

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>>8821291
>this post

>> No.8821299

>>8821291
>this is what faggot liberals actually believe.

>> No.8821302

>>8821291
>believing this
No one has a responsibility to do anything other than be self sufficient. the rest is charity. This is why there is no Good Samaritan Law. Because there is no responsibility instilled upon me or you. Does it seem morally better to do nice things? Yes. Is it my responsibility to give a homeless man my change. FUCK NO.

>> No.8821311

>>8821274
equating yourself with a doctor haha holy shit yeah youre gonna fix everything sit down fuckface

what's one of those freedoms? oh yeah the freedom to pursue happiness and not have a shitty life because other people cant get over "eww its icky youre not a GIRL"

hahaha oh my god I cant talk yo you any more

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>>8821291
>being liberal

>> No.8821321

>>8821257
man I've been persecuted but it's for shit I didn't get to change

I have tons of respect for gay men and women, and for people who were born short or "colored" or who happen to have been born women in countries where being a woman really sucks. I would never try to be offensive to these people. But we are talking about people who insist on being defined by their imagination of their own gender, sometimes to the point that they will mutilate their bodies. We're talking about people who will dress their children up in clothes meant for the other gender and send them out in public in that clothing, tell them "it's ok that this is a part of who you are", etc, all because the kid says "mom I want to wear a dress". I liked wearing dresses when I was a kid. Kids like all sorts of shit. I'm glad my parents didn't start telling people "my boy is a girl" and taking me on talk shows and changing my name. they told me not to wear it outside because I would get beat up, so I took that shit off and mostly forgot about it, and I'm a perfectly average heterosexual guy. to the very small degree that I get feminine or homosexual impulses, I don't feel it detracts from manhood, I don't feel any less a man for not being a stereotypical man.

oh, and I don't insult trans people to their faces. I don't know why you assumed that I do. I try to spread positive energy. That doesn't mean that I think we should take trans people at their word or that their grievances are legitimate. I think they should be doing something more productive with their loves than obsessing about gender. But I'm not going to make their life any better by saying that to them. They need to figure it out for themselves.

That said, freedom of speech is absolutely essential in a free society and you should respect that. It's a big fucking deal and it's worth getting angry about.

>> No.8821322

also fucking lol at all these kids having no idea that a responsibility and a law can be different

>> No.8821325

>>8821311
M-muh preserving freedoms, muh freedom to be an oppressive dick...

Looks like they've all been on /pol/ for a day at most, surprised we haven't had any ebin infographics.

>> No.8821328

on the surface this thread is amusing. but its actually making me feel bad that there is so much wonton hatred of such an unimportant thing. how does it affect your life is someone identifies as something other than the predefined man or woman? it doesnt, so why do you care?

this is why we cant have nice things, guys.

>> No.8821336

>>8821311
>equating yourself to a doctor
1. Its called an example. If you understood the logic behind it you wouldn't argue that you need to be persecuted to understand persecution.

2. "pursue happiness"
Thats right, you have the right to PURSUE happiness....you do not have a RIGHT to happiness.

>muh feelings
If you don't like how people are treating you, either deal with it or adapt. The world isn't here to make you feel like a special snowflake

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>>8821328
this is why it matters u dumb fuck

>> No.8821342

>>8821325
>implying feelings override freedom

ahahahahahahaha, stay poor and butthurt faggot

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I'm really happy and excited to be a person without colour :) and 'normal'

ALso I have blue eyes. (if you have blue eyes, and you ever meet someone else with blue eyes, be extra nice to them and treat them like family, be kind - Because we need each other more than ever right now : D )

This world and all the riff raff can really get you down, but don't forget what all our ancestors created just for us :)

>> No.8821350

>>8821328
because if a man walks into an establishment's women's washroom, they tell him to get the fuck out, and he cries "no I really am a woman", he can sue that establishment and potentially totally fuck them over. Because people have had careers ruined by sjw bullies who start shitstorms over relatively mild twitter comments. Because I'm an empathetic human being who genuinely cares about the harm being done to innocent people.

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>>8820760

Gender roles aren't a social construc.

We've had gender roles since before we were humans, you just have to look at nature and see that gender roles are everywhere in the animal kingdom.

>> No.8821352

>>8821322

The thing that you don't seem to grasp is that responsibility and law are different. Laws you have to follow or face legal consequences. Responsibilities you do if you feel like it, but you will face no legal consequences. Therefore, you don't actually have responsibilities, you just have things you can do if you want, but nothing will force you to do them.

>> No.8821353

>>8821348
Do you know what the American Dream is?

>> No.8821358

>>8821353
What do you mean?

>> No.8821361

>>8821358
Thought so. You're an idiot.

>> No.8821366

>>8821361
I was talking about how a lot of ppl really cared about the future and wanted their families to live good lives and experience art and culture. I dont care about some american nostalgia thing

>> No.8821369

>>8821328
they are just mad cuz they get no pussy

>> No.8821370

>>8821352
And, the only way a responsibility established a legal consequence is if an individual does some action to create the necessity of legal action for a responsibility

>> No.8821371

>>8821321
Speaking only from my exp. of reading peer reviewed journals and other official lit.

None is cutting off their genitals Without having been in therapy for years ( due to low self esteem, guilt)and having lived successfully as their chosen gender for at least two.

The process is very expensive.

You are hopelessly misinformed.

>> No.8821372

>>8821337

>cherry picking a few outlier stories from a demographic that contains ten of millions of people
>Implying these 00.1% cases have anything to do with him


I could use that same logic for why all pencils should be banned dumbfuck

>> No.8821373

>>8821228
talk shit, post fit

>> No.8821382

>>8821223
>implying sharia isn't exactly what you /pol/lacks want but they just hate on it because its made by "subhumans"

>> No.8821389

did you know that SJWs and anti-racists are the easist groups to troll currently? They get mad fast, and I think that they think that saying things and convincing people about things is really important. They think some kind of thing is happening when they talk. It is why they're fun to clown around with

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>>8821373
Ill talk as much shit as I want.
Im motherfucking kraimer.

>> No.8821395

>>8821348
nah this is some bullshit

I believe the great strength if the US is its diversity. Melting pot, motherfucker. I just don't like when people aren't incentivized to learn the language or blend into the culture at all, like the "cultural mosaic" shit we have in Canada.

Nothing makes me more proud to self-identify as American than seeing like an asian american dude that loves Americana and American culture. shit like that. It's all good no matter where you come from as long as you love the constitution and the american way of life

>> No.8821396

Guuuuyyyyyssss lets talk about clothes instead

>> No.8821398

>>8821372
why even bother...

Any attention is positive reinforcement to him.

>> No.8821401

>>8821173
>it's not that I hate their ideas, I just hate how they get to fuck with other people's lives as much as they want because nobody sees that kind of bullying for what it is

this

>> No.8821405

>>8821336
can you listen to yourself? "these people cant be happy because I say so even tho I have nothing to do with them and their existence has no effect on me whatsoever, I just dont like them because I was taught to"

>> No.8821408

>>8821351
don't tell me our genes make us think skirts on men make them faggots

>> No.8821410

>>8821389
Because we're the ones who made this thread, right?
Cunt.

>> No.8821415

>>8821389

trolling ppl trying to be decent is a real feat, go give yourself a pat on the back

>> No.8821418

/fa/ - Fashion

>> No.8821421

>>8821405
you are one big logical fallacy.

They can be happy all they want, they just don't have the right to not have their feelings hurt. Its up to them to be happy, not up to society to make them happy.

Jesus Tittyfucking Christ, what happened to personal responsibility?

>> No.8821423

>>8821389
get rid of the idea that making someone mad means you are winning.

>> No.8821425

>>8821405
honestly, when someone has to deal with their brain problems by getting their body cut up by a surgeon, things are not going to be cool, and I think it is fine for me not to want to talk to them or be around them or date them

>> No.8821433

>>8821421
have you ever tried being happy when the entire society you live in hates you

oh wait I guess you have, but you can change being an asshole no one likes. these people arent trans by choice.

>> No.8821435

>>8821415
>>8821423
ppl trying to be decent doesnt matter. that is why they're fun to troll they think they are doing something decent by wrinting their opinion somewhere. I don't troll ppl making community support groups for trans kids, or wanting to raise welfare etc.

>>8821423
no it is funny no winners here faggot

>> No.8821437

>>8821351
gender roles are absolutely a social construct. dont believe it? compare the gender roles of bonobos to chimpanzees.
yeah there is a noticeable predisposition one way or another but its just a leaning. just because males have been the hunters and the warriors doesnt mean that 100% of men have to have an innate desire to go out and kill things. no matter how you look at it, it is a social construct. you can say they do or they dont or that our society doesnt accept that. all point to it being a social construct.

>> No.8821446

>>8821433
so which of your body parts are mis-matched with your brain friend?

>> No.8821447

>>8821437
Already tried to tell them buddy, not worth it.

>muh fuggin dikk

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How does campaigning, protesting, and foghtong transphobia advance our society?
It doesnt
There are littlw children with the worst cancers and the worst diseases and rather put the time and the money to help them or even advance something in the means of support people are sitting here like fucking dweebs twiddling ur thumbs.

Fuck your not even fighting for a cause
Disgusting

>> No.8821454

>>8821448
Mr White super hero is the coolest guy in his community, Jack the lad helping his White God blessed community.

>> No.8821472

>>8821433
I'm not an asshole, Im probably one of the nicest people you'd ever meet. However trying to indicate people "must" be nice is stupid.

Blacks don't choose to be black. Short people don't choose to be short. Downsyndrome kids don't choose to have a 24th Chromosome. That doesn't mean I can't call someone a nigger-manlet-retard. I wouldn't but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to.

Plus society places its own focus on people who say shit things. Obviously, one main reason I would never say that is because I would lose my job if I did and they found out. Many of my clients are gay, black, mexican and almost all of them are retarded (kidding, but really, they're all pretty stupid).

Just lay off the "you have a responsibility to be nice". No, I have a beneficial interest to be nice, that doesn't mean I always have to be, but self preservation, within the confines of the law, is a powerful and great thing.

>> No.8821473

>>8821448
nice ignorance. only 5% of youth in america is lgbt but they make up 40% or higher of homeless youth

>>8821446
none im cis

>> No.8821474

stay gold, pony-/fa/, stay gold