/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.8711276]

i wish i made cool clothes like raf simons
i wish i was cute like raf simons
i wish i was raf simons

[Anonymous No.8711284]

wheres that one hapsical overview

[Anonymous No.8711285]

raf simons is a bad designer though

the only thing people care about is his early work

you know you failed as a designer when the only collections that people talk about when your name is brought up is from shit 10+ years ago

[Anonymous No.8711335]

>>8711285
ok but consider this:
he's heading fucking Dior.
and doing a really fucking good job.

that fucking couture is infinitely more considered and wearable than gallianos. its modern, colorful, sleek, feminine, elegant, cosmopolitan.
god i fucking love what he's done for dior.

ignorant twat.

[Anonymous No.8711376]

>>8711335
lmao raf people don't give a shit about that because they hardly talk about that. they say, "i miss old raf."

but please keep doing the first year gay art student shit

it's really cutting edge

[Anonymous No.8711379]

>>8711376

Anon has spoken. Raf's rise to lead designer of one of the longest standing and most successful high fashion brands of our time is rendered insignificant.

[Anonymous No.8711383]

>>8711379
yes thank you for getting your fuccboi lips off of raf's cock

finally you have seen the light

[Anonymous No.8711393]

>>8711376
>raf people
>"i miss old raf"

lmaoooo. homie anyone who's stylish and has funds doesn't stick to one brand exclusively. raf don't design for raf anymore? buy vintage raf or fucking lanvin or kenzo or any of the other hundreds brands that occupy that niche.
its not a fucking guild you pledge allegiance to ahahahah you stupid fuckboy.

[Anonymous No.8711413]

>>8711393
just give it up

i know you wanted this thread to be a circle jerk over fa but you came to the wrong place in the wrong time

[Anonymous No.8711437]

>>8711413
i just popped in to correct you because he isn't a bad designer. he's a pretty great designer especially for dior "old raf" or not.
i'm too tired to circlejerk over raf.

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8711440]

while it is true that for awhile now - since 09 , some would say aw06 was his last great show but i think ss08 was raf done right - rafs work for his own label has been lackluster, he has had successful stints at jil and now dior during that time.

and his poor contemporary form does not discredit his groundbreaking earlier work.

he was a genius, probably still is.

[Anonymous No.8711467]

>>8711440

You do not know how happy I am when I see you make posts like this

Like I don't like or hate you or whatever I have 0 fucking clue what you're even about because 90% of your posts are extremely confusing and when you post like a normal person it gives me so much reassurance and comfort

I know that probably sounds really fucking weird but I just wanted to say it

[Anonymous No.8711495]

what is wrong with you fucknuts? contemporary raf is still fucking fantastic, and if you're not into the adidas collabs, at least from a point of design if not from the wearability, you gotta a fuckboy

[Anonymous No.8711538]

except the new boots. those fucking suck

[Crept No.8711553]

>>8711276
Why would raf suddenly not be good at. What he was doing or lose understanding or somehow be doing things accidentally just trust the motherfucker

[Anonymous No.8711573]

>>8711553

how high are you right now

[Anonymous No.8711577]

raf isnt like old raf
HOWEVER i do like dior. the only galliano dior collection i liked was ss11.
when raf took over mmm those mod blazers, elongated, sateen, subtle hip. no one shapes womens suits like that rn. I like that it's got a vintage feel but space age at the same time. that was the feel for the most recent couture show-- couture in space. his menswear is lacking idk maybe because he's at the helm of one of the most prestigious houses. he dont care about fuccbois rn. go buy jil or alex???

[Anonymous No.8711579]

>>8711437
explain then?

[Crept No.8711582]

>>8711573

[Anonymous No.8711583]

>>8711440
I think fw14 and ss15 were fantastic sure it may not be as edgy, brooding, rebellious, conceptual whatever you want to say about it as earlier Raf but he is returning to his roots while still doing this new contemporary Raf. Plus the fact that Raf is starting his own brand with Sterling had got me really excited.

[Anonymous No.8711584]

Could Raf bust Hedi's cunt in a fight?

[Anonymous No.8711588]

>>8711577
ss14 btw
diagonal bias pleats on point

[Anonymous No.8711589]

>>8711577
that's a man

[Anonymous No.8711593]

>>8711584
hedi all day everyday <333

[Anonymous No.8711596]

>>8711593
Imagine how cute they would be as a couple

[Anonymous No.8711608]

>>8711584
now talk about someone who is in no way innovative.
banning that one chick from T because she gave him too harsh a review and his feelings got hurt.
and then she dug on him AGAIN in the latest issue because he truly lacks innovation as agreed by anyone who has a head on their shoulders in the industry
http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/commercialization-of-high-fashion-hedi-slimane-ysl-nicolas-ghesquiere-louis-vuitton/?_php=true&_type=blogs&module=Search&mabReward=relbias%3Aw&_r=0

>"He has also defeated his critics, who no doubt sensed the futility of continuing to point out that he doesn’t seem to be trying very hard to be inventive. (In my own case, he banned me from Saint Laurent’s runway shows when I was this newspaper’s critic.) As Tim Blanks wrote last season on Style.com, “There is no longer any shock of the whatever in what he is offering.”

>"So why write about Slimane now? Here’s why: If you accept that fashion reflects the times — and I do — then you have to concede that in this respect Slimane has been impressive, even prescient. His Saint Laurent collections perfectly capture the mood and values of the present. The need for simple messages. The triumph of branding. The shortening of horizons due to economic factors. The lack of prejudice toward old ideas, especially among young consumers. I would never expect any designer to own up to such pessimistic motives. But neither do I assume that Slimane, with his gift for marketing, hasn’t thought about them."

he PALES to raf and really most other designers in the luxury game. he's too busy nursing on that rotting 90s california grunge placenta that he's been beating everyone over the head with.

[Anonymous No.8711610]

>>8711596
i still have dreams about sucking hedi's dick
>be at emo show in la
>see hedi being a pedo
>ask him for a light
>he sees my slp shoes and unbrushed hair
>we go back to "take pictures" for hedi diary
>suck his dick in return
>maybe get some heroin
>???
>;)

[Anonymous No.8711611]

>>8711608
fyi

hedi is extremely successful for SLP. the people buying his creations don't give a fuck what irrelevent fashion bloggers have to say

[Anonymous No.8711627]

>>8711608
yeah yeah yeah...
but could he physically beat ut raf?

>inb4 nobody stands a chance against Rick

[Anonymous No.8711637]

[Anonymous No.8711653]

>>8711611
i don't get why people are ragging so much.
sure it's predictable and it's not avant garde/cutting edge/new/original
BUT it's done very well. the pieces that don't have the animal print and too much studs are the shit.
so many designers have to be new original and different to stand out, so that it looks like you're not copying.
the reason why hedi can do it is bc he is already established. doesn;t have to rely on innovation he can just refine.
i love the slp image and dont give a fuck who doesnt.
who the fuck always needs ostentatious clothes?

like ok so it's a patent leather pointed toe pump. literally everyone makes those? but i got these because i liked the immaculate point, the 110mm heel and the 90 degree angle of the heel. it used to be hard to find before 2012
if you don't care about the details like that, don't buy slp. get the cheap shit that "looks the same" fucking peasants

[Anonymous No.8711682]

>>8711608
Fuck cathy horyn she's a fattie lover.

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8711689]

>>8711583
i agree that aw15 was a return to some type of form, but there was a lot of hit and miss pieces and looks.

this parka is cool

[Anonymous No.8711715]

>>8711577
this post and pic makes me want to go jerk off
and I will

[Anonymous No.8711718]

>>8711689
that's beautiful wtf

[Anonymous No.8711721]

>>8711715
not sure if good thing or bad thing:))

[sieg No.8711733]

>>8711276
honestly Raf has never made anything I OMFG need

I tend to prefer "normal" looking clothes made with a blend of natural materials (wool, linen, or cotton blends) that are easy wearing and easy to pair in the socal summers and light winters

raf is known for his lackluster suiting (I was only interested for the extreme discount for a relatively cheap and plain suit)

or some of his shoes that have tumblr-esque nerd details

I bought some of his RAF X Fred perry shit mostly because I wanted some shit to bbq in or wear as beat up shirts and they were on sale at like $85 each so a handful of Raf X FP shirts weren't too much more than UNIQLO drivel that would only last me 8 months

[Anonymous No.8711745]

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[Anonymous No.8711769]

>>8711285
Can you explain why his early work is good and his modern work is bad or are you just repeating what you heard on a taiwanese claymation board?

[Anonymous No.8711785]

>>8711769
It was revolutionary and hadn't been done before. It defined menswear in that period.

[Anonymous No.8711795]

>>8711745
Will you stop with this stupid fucking text in every goddamn thread

[Anonymous No.8711799]

>>8711785
What aspects where revolutionary?

[None !ZxCHLOeFEI No.8711803]

>>8711795

STUPID
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[Anonymous No.8711805]

>>8711795
S A M E F A G ?
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[Anonymous No.8711808]

>>8711799
The silhouettes

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8711936]

>>8711769
his early work was revolutionary in a lot of ways, if you ignore the concepts, the presentation, the spectacle that a lot of those shows were and focus purely on the clothes theres a few things raf and helmut lang did that changed the landscape of menswear.

the suits of his 90's work were cut slim, much slimmer than what was standard at the time, rafs tailoring in the early years was sublime. narrow cut coats/pants/blazers shown on amateur young models picked off of the streets of antwerp was totally raw compared to the shlock a lot of his contemporaries were doing.

raf was also very obsessed with the conceptual nature of the work, subcultures, personas, art, and the clothes were often a medium upon which to express it and commemorate it. in other words the clothes took a backseat to the concept and expression of whatever he vizualised as the message.

i think from a purely technical perspective, his best show was aw03. it was the perfect amalgam of what made raf so amazing.

exquisitely cut outerwear, immediately wearable sportwear, the seamless and powerful incorporation/tribute of an artist's work and vision whom he loved(peter saville) as well as an affectionate love letter to the subculture that gave birth to it all.

its a magnificent show and i encourage anyone who likes raf to watch it here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hVu-kYvlgI

a lot of the knits in this show were so expensive there were less than 20 made, this one retailed for 6000 in 03.

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8711956]

>>8711936

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8711962]

>>8711956

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8711964]

>>8711962

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8711978]

>>8711964

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8711981]

>>8711978

[Anonymous No.8711984]

>>8711981
Pigfuck you love Raf so much, but you're selling all those grails.

What pieces did you keep?

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8711992]

>>8711984
none of those are really special to me, the ss06 parachute is something i never wear and the ss02 coat i had no intention of keeping.

the Helmut jackets are special tho and i have declined offers of over 5000 for them.

i have a lot still that i will never part with and one very special piece that is probably the rarest raf piece in existence that i just purchased and will post when it arrives.

[Anonymous No.8712002]

>>8711992
>one very special piece that is probably the rarest raf piece in existence that i just purchased and will post when it arrives.
>Raf locked in my basement

[Anonymous No.8712011]

Why can't you be like this every time you post, pigfuck

[Anonymous No.8712012]

>>8711992
when is that ombre going to go on grailed pf? Also white velcros sold already ._. ?

[Anonymous No.8712015]

>>8711992

I'm jelly as fuck

[Anonymous No.8712024]

>>8711992
got any good recommendations for resources about learning on raf? just reading through the hapsical overview of raf shows right now

btw what are your thoughts on hapsical, he pretty much stopped liking raf and deleted his blog last week

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8712034]

>>8712012
i would consider selling the ombre. and yes the the white velcros sold.

>>8712024
http://stylezeitgeist.com/forums/showthread.php?s=8456858cec07d029e7841318dfa9de19&t=7059

has some good discussion. other than that the best way to learn i think is the shows themselves and firstview.com is the best for viewing most of the old ones.

the dazed and confused commemoration video is also worth a look. http://www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/article/9197/1/rafs-army-exclusive-fashion-film

online articles are good too, and youtube/vimeo have some collections as well.

hapsical seems like a nice person, i have bought some things off of him and he always ships fast and is courteous and polite.

he defended raf at a time when most were deriding him and benefited heavily from it. he also brought a lot of exposure to archive raf. i think he has done more good than bad.

i think he is done with fashion in general and moving on. he recently sold off most of his pieces like the pyramid and parachute bomber, the de stijl sneakers etc.

[Anonymous No.8712065]

>>8712034
wow honestly did not expect you to respond seriously but thanks man

ur a cool guy when ur not posting walls of sjw text nobody understands

[Anonymous No.8712069]

>>8712034
>done with fashion
wow that's really disappointing i personally can't ever imagine myself being "done" with fashion, because it's such a huge part of me and being "done" with it would imply that i am "doing" fashion which is wrong, i am living and being fashion personally

what a shame hopefully whatever else he's found is infinitely more fulfilling though

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8712070]

>>8712069
crossfit and healthy living is what hes all about now according to his blog

[Anonymous No.8712073]

>>8712070

wow fuck lol don't wanna hate if that's what makes him happy but what the fuck seriously... it's not like fashiong and other hobbies are mutually exclusive, wonder what made him lose complete interest

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8712083]

>>8712073
i think he just became disillusioned.

he had all these amazing avant-garde rarities that he spent years of his life accruing that he never wore(his words) whether he was uncomfortable wearing them in public or what IDK.

i guess they just reminded him of something hes trying to move on from.

[Anonymous No.8712087]

>>8712065
You realize it's anti sjw things he posts right

[Anonymous No.8712092]

>>8712083
yeah seems like it. grail fever got the best of him. from the little i've seen he looked pretty decent, i guess fashion irl away from fit pics and the internet is a whole different universe.

>>8712087

yeah i know

[Anonymous No.8712126]

>>8711467

I wonder if he interacts with people irl like his posts. When I see pigfuck the only image that comes to mind is massive asshole.

Pic related

[Anonymous No.8712133]

>>8711335

didn't everyone hate his debut with dior though?

[Anonymous No.8712136]

>>8712092
http://vimeo.com/89426457

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8712137]

>>8712126
>thinking there isnt a conscious effort on behalf of unscrupulous entities to tumblr-fy and sjw up 4chan.

[Anonymous No.8712140]

I like how he's fat, but still /fa/.

[Anonymous No.8712150]

>>8712137

>implying that has relevance
>even if it did, doesn't make you any less of a massive asshole

Inb4 blaming tumblr

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8712154]

>>8712150
sorry i hurt your feelings with words i typed on the internet

[Anonymous No.8712158]

>>8712154

More of disappointment. Figured you where atleast halfway a decent guy.

Definitely proved me wrong.

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8712167]

>>8712158
i make no apologies for not conforming to the insidious suffocating political-correctness of modern society. the degradation of wholesome, traditional values and the persecution of the white race. all of which has been consciously initiated by the sociological and political propaganda of the zionist global powers.

i am sorry if this is all too much for you, i am sorry that you think the world is controlled by an evil white christian patriachy and you're a brave social justice warrior fighting the good fight for the poor oppressed blacks, transgendered, gays and whatever other mentally ill non gender conforming shills that exist.

truth is most black people dont like you, they dont care about how PC and anti racist you are, they;re think you're a punk ass faggot, the civilised ones just think you owe them an apology.

i am white and proud, and theres nothing wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.8712177]

>>8712167
lots of words i don't really get and i'm no expert or even that interested in sjw shit but my general stance on what i think you're talking about has been the same as you as far back as i remember

idk maybe if you actually asserted a firm topic or something when you posted about these things you would make more sense because most of the time i'm scrolling down through /fa/ and BAM all of a sudden i see what appears to be /pol/ talk out of nowhere with no subject or person / event / matter you're addressing

[Anonymous No.8712186]

>>8712167

>pointing out over the top /pol/ shit posting is now sjw

Like I said, inb4 blaming tumblr

kek

[Anonymous No.8712192]

>>8712167
do you feel euphoric today?

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8712201]

>>8712192
empowered

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8712207]

>>8712192

[Anonymous No.8712214]

>>8712207

>actually posting a pic of himself to prove something

I can't see the neckbeard from this angle tough guy

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8712220]

>>8712214

[Anonymous No.8712235]

>>8712220

2/10 drapes. Look like shower curtains

9/10 fan. Very shiny

6/10 butt. Clearly forgetting leg day

[Anonymous No.8712241]

>>8712207
as always your bottom section is completely fucked

are you wearing fucking bellbottoms you fairy

[pigfuck, seasoned cryptozoolog(...) No.8712260]

>>8712241
>>8712235

[Anonymous No.8712281]

>>8712260
Where are your genitals?

[Anonymous No.8712522]

>>8712167
maximum edge, kill yourself

[Anonymous No.8713304]

>>8711653
point well taken 102

[The (formerly 'Le') Source Guy(...) No.8713332]

>>8711583
I'm with you. All the RSSR shit is really cool.

[Anonymous No.8713368]

>>8711808
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. I'm not saying that early Raf was revolutionary and fantastic but it wasn't just because of the fucking silhouettes.