Raw Denim General

[Anonymous No.8655029]

Does /fa/ still like raw denim?
Whatcha wearing lately /fa/?

FAQ
>Why do you not wash your jeans
Raw denim is untreated, meaning the dye falls out faster. The longer you don't wash, the more dye comes loose in an area and the sickr ur fadez are
>Don't your jeans smell?
Not unless you sweat like a pig or do something dirty. If they get a little smelly, throw em in the freezer. Works everytime for me.
>How long should I wait to wash?
Traditionally, six months. Anymore and you risk the denim becoming too weak at certain points, leading to crotch blowouts. Of course you can wash em every week they are your jeans. There really isn't a set rule.
>Seems expensive
not really. I've wore the same pair of jeans for a year and a half almost everyday before I got a hole in my back pocket. Good-named raw denim brands tend to have superb quality compared to a lot of other brands. (imo)
>Wow, this sounds really cool how do I get in on this?
Depends on how much you wanna spend. The cheapest brand by far is Unbranded, and some people swear by the fades on those being fantastic for price. Next step up would be Naked and Famous, nudies, or APCs. Some of the higher brands in the 300s are Pure Blue Japans, Momotaros, and Iron Hearts. Just depends on how much you wanna spend!
>Raw denim is shit and you are shit for liking it
K

[Sage No.8655040]

>>8655029
Only black/black super skinny raws because nxtlvl

[Anonymous No.8655046]

>>8655029
I'm thinking of copping some Iron Hearts myself. I've heard some good things about them, especially being that the cut isn't absolute dogshit compared to the rest of the big name denim brands.

[Anonymous No.8655052]

>>8655029
really want to get some denim but am poorfag

Should I just get some 511 rigid dragons for $40 or get unbranded for 90+

I know the levis is probably not really "raw" but its still something r-right?

[Anonymous No.8655067]

>>8655052
Levis are fine, but I found the cut to be shit. I have 510s in Jet and they look kind of off. I haven't worn any of their 511s for a while but I don't find them flattering.

Ideally, if you NEED pants right now, just cop the Levis and use them as beaters or something and save up for a higher quality pair of denim in the 100s. If you can wait though, I would definitely save up for something a little nicer. (Naked and famous or something.) I don't know shit about Unbranded, but I remember when they were a big deal on /fa/ everyone said they fade really quick. (Which may be a good or bad thing to you depending on how long you want your jeans to last)

[Anonymous No.8655081]

>>8655052
Also, I'd recommend going into a store to try some on first beforehand. The rigid ain't bad, but they are available everywhere at least in the same cut (maybe not the same color)

[Anonymous No.8655086]

What is the best Nudies cut?

[Anonymous No.8655090]

>>8655029
my younger brother's jeans got mouldy because he took them with him to indonesia and it's hella humid there

what do

[Anonymous No.8655093]

>>8655067
well I'm about halfway through college so I will be poorfag for a bit longer. Also 510s are too skinny for me. 511's suit me much much better.

I think the levis will be fine for now.

Also, do you know if the 511 trousers make good chinos? looking to get a few maybe in khaki and grey.

>>8655081
Yup just came back from trying them on. I'm suprised that 32 32 worked out cuz I'm usually a size smaller. Rigid dragon is online color only for the levis store.

[Anonymous No.8655097]

>>8655090
also he doesn't have a freezer

[Anonymous No.8655101]

>>8655090
Dry cleaner or a tub + Vinegar.
Unless he don't give a shit and in that case just throw them in the washing machine or some shit.

[Sam No.8655108]

Got these unbranded 21oz "skinny" jeans. Feel free to ask about them.

[Sam No.8655110]

>>8655108
forgot image.

[Anonymous No.8655111]

>>8655108
How comfortable are they compared to any of the lighter denim you may have owned?

[Sam No.8655119]

>>8655111
Fuck. They're shit. By far the most uncomfortable jeans I've ever worn.. They're SUPER stiff and you can barely bend your legs when you first try them on. I will give you an award if you can kneel down first time without them hurting you...

[Anonymous No.8655128]

>>8655110
can they stand by themselves?

[Anonymous No.8655132]

>>8655119
Jesus really? That sounds a lot worse than I thought. I know some people who love the Elephants from NF so I wonder if it is a brand thing or something.

[Sam No.8655139]

>>8655128
When they were new, they could just about stand by themselves yeah, but you had to crease the leg at the front or "pleat" it as some call it. Nothing on the 32oz N&F, but they're just stupid.

[Anonymous No.8655144]

>>8655111
painful

[Sam No.8655148]

>>8655132
Well they're 19oz and 2oz isn't probably much difference but don't get me wrong... I love them a lot! It's just a shock coming from 14oz to 21oz haha. Also, you're gonna feel like other jeans as cmplete shit quality when you try them on if they aren't as heavy as 21oz because they just feel thinner and cheaper.

[Anonymous No.8655159]

>>8655052
http://www.rawrdenim.com/2013/07/fade-friday-levis-511-rigid-dragon-20-months-2-washes/

and

http://www.rawrdenim.com/2013/03/fade-friday-unbranded-201-ub201-3-years-4-washes/

both can get excellent fades for the price point. unbranded tends to fade quickly, especially the 21oz pair

[Anonymous No.8655162]

>>8655086
Depends on your body type

[Anonymous No.8655171]

>>8655090
wash the moldy jeans

[Anonymous No.8655176]

>>8655159
jesus those 511's look sick. thanks for those links bro.

[Sam No.8655191]

Requesting urban minimal raw denim inspo please.

[Anonymous No.8655199]

>>8655052
Unbranded were my first
I got the 21oz
after first wash @7 months mine looked older than some people's after 18
But I probably wore them harder than normal, basically I wore them to anything that wouldn't get them gross
can't comment on relative quality, but crotch not blown out
Can post pics if you want
just try a pair on
Side note, looking for something on the heavy side, sub $250 budget if anyone can help

[Anonymous No.8655219]

>>8655111
The first time I wore them it was overbearing. Max bend w/o some pain was ~70 degrees.
I used as sleeping pants for the first 2 weeks, definitely have to wait for them to stretch. But when i stopped wearing them every day everything else was so light, like all my pants were like cotton shirts. Basically you get used to them and now I love heavy denim

[Anonymous No.8655225]

Mods please close this thread. Too many people have fallen for the raw denim troll. PLEASE, MODS

[Anonymous No.8655227]

>>8655225
mods pls delete this top b8. PLEASE MODS

[Sam No.8655228]

>>8655225
>troll
I'm not even mad. Try again please.

[Anonymous No.8655229]

>>8655225

[Anonymous No.8655258]

So I'm looking to jump up from a pair of indigo power stretch I bought a year ago from NF. Been looking at rogue territory. (I'm pretty skinny, but not looking for skinny jeans you know?)
I was thinking of getting a pair of indigo/black, because I've seen some cool fades of those. But they'd stay dark for a while I bet, which might limit what I wear with them. (Brown shoes might stay silly for a while) So I was thinking of grabbing just a normal indigo pair, since I've never owned a nice normal pair.

Also somewhat stuck on brand. I was leaning more towards rogue territory, since I've heard they are great, but I've had a few people tell me for the pricepoint to grab some 3sixteens. According to Blueowl though, rogue territory Stantons are slimmer per waist size than 3sixteen. But apparently 3sixteen denim is really nice quality compared to rogue territory and will last longer. So, what do you think /fa/?
Also open to brand suggestions. Trying to keep it below 250 though, not ready to jump up to momos or anything.

[Anonymous No.8655267]

>>8655258
pbj makes some dark indigo/indigo jeans and they put out a black/indigo pair recently

you can probably cop a pair ~$220 on blueowl

[Sam No.8655276]

>>8655258
Heard good things about Railcar Fine Goods, but personaly I'd never spend over $150 on a pair of jeans. They're all gonna rip and fade... just a bit differently.

www. railcarfinegoods. com /ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=RMJSPIKESX012

[Anonymous No.8655357]

>>8655191
Not possible nobody stylish in an urban setting wears indigo any more

[Anonymous No.8655369]

>>8655267
Nah, blueowl only has japan blues. The PJB is still slightly out of my preferred price range. Thanks though.
>>8655276
Yeah, I've heard decent things about railcar too. The fits on their website are shit by the looks though.

[Anonymous No.8655400]

>>8655258
Also somewhat interested in this.
I've been mirin a pair of indigo on a black weft for a while, but can't seem to pull the trigger because worried about the darkness being too much for some shoes but they fade so damn nice.

[Anonymous No.8655408]

been wearing nudies weirdguys for like 2 years maybe. shit fades, two blowouts, 1 in crotch, 1 in ass.

best fading is a fade on front pocket in shape of phone

ffs you can only keep shit in your back pocket with these things or you ruin it

[Anonymous No.8655440]

>>8655408
What do you mean? OR else it won't fade?
You could just keep whatever in your left pocket and keep your phone in your right. That's what I do.
My jeans weren't tight so it didn't fade in my phone. My back pocket also doesn't have a defined wallet fade as a result.

[Anonymous No.8655448]

I've seen raw denim that isn't selvedge

but can you get selvedge that isn't raw??

[Anonymous No.8655487]

Currently own Naked & Famous Weird Guys (used to hate the cut, now I think it's okay but I washed them a lot and they're very blue)
also have APC PNS, really dislike the cut, top block is cool but I dont like that strong of a taper.


Whenver I feel like dropping dosh for new jeans Im gonna cop kakishibu Kapitals

[Anonymous No.8655489]

>>8655448
Yes, absolutely. I have white 13oz selvege jeans.

[sieg No.8655540]

>>8655448
yes

[Anonymous No.8655575]

>>8655448
Yes, plenty of brands do washed selvedge or predistressed selvedge jeans. Nbhd does some cool but super expensive shit


Also a lot of mall and fast fashion jeans have started doing fake selvedge, where they sew on a strip and the bottom for poorfags who want to cuff

[Anonymous No.8655588]

>>8655408
>nudies weird guy

[Anonymous No.8655598]

>>8655575
What brands?

[Anonymous No.8655602]

>>8655575
>Also a lot of mall and fast fashion jeans have started doing fake selvedge, where they sew on a strip and the bottom for poorfags who want to cuff

so fucking terrible.
is there a way to tell they're fake selvedg?

[Anonymous No.8655607]

>>8655602
Real selvedge runs all the way down the leg, it's part of the construction of the jeans. If you look at the bottom of the leg and theres a strip of selvedge that abruptly cuts off after a couple inches, its fake. If its the whole leg its real

[Anonymous No.8655608]

>>8655487
Holy fuck this makes me cringe.


So, how are Uniqlo raw selvedge? :3

[Anonymous No.8655609]

>>8655602
I'd assume you could just not buy less than 14oz since you can tell by thickness alone.

[Anonymous No.8655613]

>>8655029
requesting the fine bubble butt with gap in rogue territory raws you know the one

[Anonymous No.8655618]

>>8655608
>uniqlo raw selvedge
>that makes you cringe
nigga you make me cringe over the internet with your words in text

[Anonymous No.8655620]

>>8655608
embrace the loose cut m8

[Anonymous No.8655624]

>>8655620
Those are both slims on overly slim people. The pants on the right would be tight on me.

[Anonymous No.8655630]

>>8655602
>>8655607
>>8655609
i meant, can you tell it's fake by looking at it. like if someone is wearing jeans with a cuff, and the cuff part has selvedge... obviously you can't ask people to show you the whole inseam on the inside! (most of the time)

[Anonymous No.8655636]

>>8655624
lose weight

[Sieg No.8655637]

>>8655598
Cotton on, 25 dollar jeans .com, tony hawk for khols, Kmart Adam levine

You can take the selvedge part and flip it over to see its ot selvedge on the back side

[Anonymous No.8655642]

>>8655624
More talking about the jeans on the dude on the left. They're slim/straight, but def. looser than what most ppl on /fa/ wear, look towards the bottom, much wider leg opening.

[Anonymous No.8655646]

>>8655602
You can tell fake selvedge when you see no "rails"; a crease/fade down the selvedge under the fabric, through the entire inseam. Pic related. You can see the selvedge faded my denim and you can see the lines down the entire inseam.

[Sieg No.8655650]

>>8655630

[Anonymous No.8655660]

>>8655646
BTW not every pair of raws are selvedge, but most of japanese made fabric is/has to be. Some washed denim is selvedged because they used the same fabric they use for raws they just decided to prefade them.

[Anonymous No.8655674]

>>8655650
lawl. who's going to cuff it that much though?

so basically if someone is wearing these, cuffed right, you wont be able to tell its not actual selvedge just be looking at them.

got it.

[Anonymous No.8655678]

>>8655674
you can easily tell look at >>8655646
he wont have rail fades like this guy

[Anonymous No.8655696]

>>8655678
if they're new(er), they won't have any fades.

[Anonymous No.8655702]

>>8655636
I'm >>8650862, if anything my legs should be a little bigger.

[Anonymous No.8655703]

>>8655696
but you can see the crease the extra fabric from the selvedge if they are snug fit

[Anonymous No.8655711]

How does washing them prevent a crotch blow out?

How does washing them prevent them from becoming weak at certain points?

Aren't you still wearing them the same amount with equal stress? I'm seriously curious. Washing magically prevents wear?

[Anonymous No.8655717]

>>8655703
by snug you mean skin tight, which most people don't wear.

[Anonymous No.8655722]

>>8655711
It washes out the starch.

[Anonymous No.8655726]

>>8655711
Washing removes all the oil and sweat and shit that wears on the fabric. It doesn't erase damage done but slows it down

[Anonymous No.8655727]

Thinking of copping Rogue Territory Dark Stantons. I want something with a black weft in that price range. Anybody own a pair of them, or rouge territory in general?

[Anonymous No.8655734]

>>8655727
Don't own any Rogues but have tried on, they're great jeans from what I've heard and they have a slim cut SK as well if you prefer that

Rogue Territorys instagram posts some really cool progress pics of their denim that people wear

[Anonymous No.8655742]

>>8655678
he's talking about selvedge, not raw

[Anonymous No.8655744]

How are the uniqlo selvedge jeans? I was thinking of getting a pair

[Anonymous No.8655745]

>>8655734
Yeah, I was probably gonna cop the stanton since the SK is more of a skinny cut and I don't really care for it. (I'm skinny, but I don't really like my indigo jeans in a skinny-tight cut you know?)
Think I'll pull the trigger on them in a month.

[Anonymous No.8655790]

Would fades between a 13.5 oz and a 14.5 oz be significantly different?

[Anonymous No.8655809]

How should I size JB0412s?

[Anonymous No.8655856]

>>8655276
I have a pair of Railcar Spikes x001.

My favorite pair of raws so far. Good fit and pretty comfy. Texture is kinda plain compared to most japanese raws, but I like it none the less.

Pic related, taken at about 3 months.

[Anonymous No.8656055]

>>8655856
>>8655856
Look pretty good bruh. How do they fit? The charts I saw on blue owl didn't look very slimming.

[Anonymous No.8656132]

what does "slub" mean?

[Anonymous No.8656137]

>>8656132
It has to do with the denim being a little less clean. It looks a little more strand-y and messy. Looks like the weaves are coming loose giving a slubby effect.
At least I think so. Google and look at some of the denim that claims to be slubby and you will get a rough idea.

[Anonymous No.8656140]

>>8656132
Prefaded, a worn in look.

[Anonymous No.8656219]

>>8655650
l o fucking l

[Anonymous No.8656396]

About to wash my Rogue Territory SK's after 6 months of ~5 days a week wear. Starting to look Very good.

[Anonymous No.8656456]

does anyone have the Rogue Territory Stantons?

How slim are their slims? Like would you compare it to a levis 511?

[Anonymous No.8656529]

>>8655258

Got the Dark Stantons. They are love and my favourite pair of jeans. Really stiff, lots of indigo and will stain your shoes. Their cuts are pretty skinny though so I am afraid of the day when my gym habit will be the death of me.

The fades are wild electric blue though. I wonder if I can alter them a little from the inseam in the future.

[Anonymous No.8656554]

>>8656396
Post fit.
Are they skin tight, or what? I kidna wanna get some, but my 510s feel pretty uncomfortable sometimes.
How do they compare? I was gonna cop the Stanton otherwise.

[Anonymous No.8656558]

>>8656554
They Taper more than the 510's, literally the perfect skinny jeans imo. Will post fit after soak is done :3

[Anonymous No.8656573]

>>8656558
A'ight cool! I was looking around on some other places and I saw some Sks that looked pretty baggy.
How comfy are yours?

[Anonymous No.8656584]

I was thinking about copping some Acne ace raws because I really like the cut, but I'm not a huge fan of siq fades; I prefer the way they look brand new. Are there any ways that I can reduce the fading without drastically cutting down their lifespan, and retain the original indigo color?

[Anonymous No.8656593]

Can someone explain why raw denim cost so much more? Its seems as if they're actually doing less work while making them.

[Anonymous No.8656608]

>>8656593
They just use higher quality denim than most lower-tier brands. High-quality washed denim is more common in a higher price range than most raw denim.

[sieg No.8656609]

>>8656584
ACNE is not a very high end, or well made brand

/fa/ likes it but /fa/ is a bunch of poorfag teenagers new to this whole thing

so there isn't much you can do

however since most of you kids that wear these shit tier brands are in your second year of high school

you can afford to buy new higher tier denim once you make the trip to college

[Anonymous No.8656627]

>>8655258
When I was trying to decide on what jeans to buy, it came down to 3sixteen & Rouge Territory. I went with 3sixteen. Wonderful jeans.

[Anonymous No.8656629]

>>8656609
implying you're going to have money to spare in college unless your parents spoon feed you money through it

[Anonymous No.8656632]

>>8656593

>>8656608
This. The raw denim manufacturers mostly use antique, old fashioned looms that cannot really mass produce the fabric the same amounts as modern ones. They might also use better cotton. These things plus shipping: N&F for example uses japanese denim which most likely has it's cotton sourced from africa or somewhere else. All this shipping around raises the costs.

Ofcourse the design, cuts and "uniqueness" also raise the price.

[Anonymous No.8656634]

>>8656609
I know they don't use great denim, but honestly I'm not too concerned about that; I know I could get higher quality denim at the same price but I like Acne's cuts. To each their own I guess. I've heard mixed but mostly positive things about their construction tho, so that's enough for me.

[Anonymous No.8656644]

>>8656627
How's the cut? I'm pretty skelly but 3sixteen doesn't look like it has very slim cuts.

[Anonymous No.8656652]

How do you keep deep/dark indigo from fading?
I don't care about sick fades, I prefer how they look newish.

[sieg No.8656656]

>>8656629
nah you will have money for clothes, food and laptops and even alcohol

people start being broke around year 3

since that macbook they bought freshman year, those julius boots they had to buy and the brand new long board they bought start to fall apart

around year 4/5 that macbook is beyond trashed. (ever see an ex-college 2007 macbook in 2011? shit isn't pretty )

[sieg No.8656671]

>>8656634
i mean if you want to save up money for something that is "good enough" for a few lower income people on the internet asking to purchase used clothes on forums then i mean by all means go for it


but if you're serious about buying a decent pair of jeans you can buy nicer ones that will last longer for not much more or even about the same if you're smart

[Anonymous No.8656694]

>>8656671
Ok, so new question: w69c raws with similar/better cut than Acne but better quality? The only reason I'm not going for any of the other brands in that price range is their cuts are baggy af in comparison.

[Anonymous No.8656712]

>>8656644
It's still a slim fit, but I could see how it might not be the best without a slight build. I'm 6'2" 165lb. Fit me great.

[Anonymous No.8656742]

>>8656055
They fit pretty slim, but not skinny.

But they fit much better than the railcar site shows. I think they sized up at least one for those.

This is a more accurate pic of how they fit.

[Anonymous No.8656752]

>>8656652
Don't wash them ever, they might develop some fades but that dark color won't change much.

[Anonymous No.8656774]

>>8655029
I wear Levi 501s for work because they're made of a thicker material but they get really dirty so I have to wash them but they shrink and fade out.

What do?

[Anonymous No.8656811]

>>8656774
Just soak them instead of washing them. (I'm assuming you're using a washing machine.)

Fill your bathtub with cold water, and soak your jeans for about 30 minutes to an hour, then hang dry. Should be less shrinkage and your jeans will retain more indigo.

[Anonymous No.8656834]

>>8656652
>>8656752

no, they'll wear down and get disgusting.

soak in cold water for 30 minutes when you get them and hang dry.

wash in cold water (with woolite dark) every month or so.

[Anonymous No.8656839]

>>8656811
thank you

[Anonymous No.8656841]

>>8656834
also, dont wash in washing machine, use a bathtub. just put in jeans water, add in some detergent, swish them around, let them soak for 30 minutes.

if you use detergent, make sure to rinse them with more cold water after. if you can't lower the pressure on your shower-head to rinse them, use a pitcher instead (do not use high pressure).

[Anonymous No.8656886]

Just ordered some 511's since they were on sale, wasn't too sure what size to get them in so I hope they fit alright.
Can't wait to have some decent jeans

[Anonymous No.8656916]

>>8656834
>washing every month
didn't wash mine for like 38 months and they're not disgusting and don't smell at all. I guess the key is not to put them in the closet where there's no air. I hang mine on the door. And if you sweat like a pig that doesn't help too.

[Anonymous No.8656984]

>>8656584
>but I'm not a huge fan of siq fades;
Same here. I love the deep blue colour of raws, but all those
>fades
>fading
>sick fades
>nice fades
>distressed
>fades
just makes me think
>You dirty SOB, wash your fucking jeans!
> Damn, I would hate it to be that poor that i cant even replace my jeans when they are worn way beyond their presentable-in-public lifespan

Seriously, what is the appeal of walking around in dirty and kaputt jeans?

Anyways, here is what i do:
- dont wash them too often (actually quite similar to the >muh fadez crowd), but if you are starting to see fades, wash them (only with other, similar coloured jeans!) to redistribute the ińdigo evenly
- do NOT wear them constantly and let them air out inbetween wears (inside out and normal)
- straighten them before letting them air out
- ocassionally iron them, to get rid of creases that might evolove into a fade

Any more ideas?

What about adding colour into the washing machine? There are these colour additives in the supermarket, but I am afraid they will totally fuck up the nice indigo blue.
Is there any raw maker that sells overdied jeans rags to add to the wash?

[Anonymous No.8656994]

>>8656632
>All this shipping around raises the costs.
I do have to admit that i dont really know the various price parts of denim, but generally speaking, shipping doesnt add much costs to anything today.

Just look at your typical sub 5$\€\£ T-shirt. The cotton also had to go from africa to bangladesh and then the T-shirt had to get to the US/Europe and it still costs nothing.

[Anonymous No.8656997]

>>8656984
jesus christ just get the standard jeans then or washed raws, whats the point of buying raws if you hate everything about them?

[Anonymous No.8657032]

>>8656997
The colour

[Anonymous No.8657063]

>tfw didn't get the elephant 4s

they looked so sick

[Anonymous No.8657217]

>>8656632
>N&F for example uses japanese denim which most likely has it's cotton sourced from africa or somewhere else.

So wait, what? I thought Japanese denim was superior? How is it called Japanese denim if it comes from somewhere else? I can understand manufacturing it in some third would country to reduce cost, but I though the denim came from Japan.

[sieg No.8657233]

>>8657217
old american shuttle looms are in japan, cotton comes from a cotton supplier.

naked and famous is not one of the god tier brands anyways

>wait i thought italian cars were good, ferrari lambo etc

why did you just tell me fiat or vespa was not in the same league as ferrari?

[sieg No.8657239]

>>8657032
dark wash artifical indigo jeans do exist
go have fun with h&m dark wash denim

also people that don't believe raw w/out selvedge it's pretty much what g-starr raw started with and grew in popularity amoung african america youth in 2001

[Anonymous No.8657249]

>>8657233
What's throwing me off is that my Japanese denim jeans are made in USA. Which seemed simple enough. Japaneese materials, American work. So is the denim sourced elsewhere, but still called Japanese denim? That's what I'm unsure on.

[Anonymous No.8657361]

>>8657249
denim is made from cotton. the cotton is taken to japan to make denim.

[Anonymous No.8657371]

>>8657249
Not the other poster but what he meant was
the cotton is from Africa then brought to Japan to be weaved into denim and that denim is to be sent out to be manufactured elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.8657392]

Im not muscular at all, my weird guys fit everywhere except below the knee, what fucking gives. Does this mean I will fit skinny guys properly?

[Anonymous No.8657402]

I was wondering what /fa/'s opinions on Levis denim are? I'm only planning on buying something I could afford (like 50-100) for 1 jean so yeah, how do these hold up against like 7 for mankind, etc.?

[Anonymous No.8657428]

I have

nudies
Oni
N&F
Edwin


my favorite by FAR are edwin. I'm suprised they never get mentioned on /fa/ compared to the other brands.

[Anonymous No.8657458]

>>8657239
Hey sieg, what is your opinion on your 45rpm jeans?

Also:

> tfw i can't sell my fucking rag & bones to anyone on earth

[Anonymous No.8657479]

>>8656916
>didn't wash mine for like 38 months
you fucking disgusting bio-hazard

[Anonymous No.8657567]

>>8657402
Make your own thread, seeing as those aren't raw

[Anonymous No.8657568]

>>8657479
>mad

[Anonymous No.8657570]

>>8656694
Rogue Territory SK fit me far better than Acne did.

[Anonymous No.8657574]

>>8657063
It isn't too late bruh. They are on blue owl and from what I gathered they are continuing production on them longer than the other pairs.

[raw denim god !egv7oJ85Aw No.8657717]

holy shit there's so much misinformation in this thread lol

>>8655369
you can get pbj for ~220 from denimio if that helps


>>8655258
rogue territory and 3sixteen are basically the same quality and will last an equal amount of time.

Note: the 'quality' of denim suffers diminishing returns after about $150. your $150 N&F will last just as long as $450 iron hearts, as the price goes up what you're paying for is small details such as specific fabric, weft color, denim weight, fit, etc.

>>8655744
>>8655608
uniqlo selvedge is great for its price.

>>8655722
starch doesn't cause crotch blowouts idiot

>>8655711

>>8655726
this, and the fact that washing causes the cotton fibers to shrink, tightening up the weave and prolonging the durability of the denim

>>8656140
false

>>8656132
slub is a side effect of using vintage shuttle looms in which some cotton fibers will be thicker than others. this produces irregularity in the denim which is desired by many people. here's a good example.

http://nakedandfamousdenim.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/IMG_1044.jpg

>>8656652
http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=7844&category_id=&manufacturer_id=9&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=62&vmcchk=1

[Anonymous No.8657745]

Does anyone know how I can give my 1 year old pair of raws some shine back?

I was thinking starch

[Sam No.8657803]

>>8657745
>Shine
Explain please...

[Anonymous No.8657810]

>>8657717
>Denimio
Damn that is a good site. They even have the going to battle Momos I was eyeing last year but missed out on. Damn, now I want a pair.

[Anonymous No.8657862]

>>8657803
Maybe he means he had a pair of wax coated denim like the black power stretch.
Or perhaps just the sheen in general a new pair of jeans have.
I don't think anyone can deny that a pair of raws will never have that sheen of a new pair again.

[Anonymous No.8657873]

Lol have me some LRG raws

[raw denim god !egv7oJ85Aw No.8657878]

>>8657810
their prices are amazing. so amazing that other retailers keep sending them angry e-mails to raise their prices because they're 'unfair' or someshit.

>>8657862
I've found that a wash actually does a lot to make the denim look better, depending on the type of fabric you have. it can make the irregularities like slub and nep and vertical falling much more apparent.

[Anonymous No.8657884]

>>8657862
Otter wax is probably best bet if he wants the sheen. If he wants them raw again... guess he's gonna have t...t.fuck....guess hes gonna have to dye them.

[Anonymous No.8657934]

>>8657873
Never heard of them. How are they?

[Anonymous No.8657938]

>>8655711
Part of crotch wear is that accumulates bacteria and whatnot from your funny bits.

[Anonymous No.8657950]

The best-fitting pair of pants I have right now are some Docker's Alpha Khakis. Slim-straight jeans usually don't look very good on me. Anyone know of some raws that fit like alpha khakis (med-low/10-inch rise, roomy thigh, narrow leg opening)? I've tried Weird Guys, but the rise is too low and the fit is just off for me. The closest I've been able to find is Momotaro's Japan Blue label, but all of those have a bright blue thread running down the inseam which really puts me off.
Am I stuck having to do a Luxire MTM order?

[Anonymous No.8657961]

>>8655487
dat texture goddamn
Shame they're nearly $400 a pair. I would jump on that shit immediately if it were <$200.

[Anonymous No.8657966]

>>8657934
Surprisingly good for the money actually, not a complaint so far, had for about a year and a half, not broken in any place

[Anonymous No.8657975]

>>8657950
You could just get some regualar momotaros... or hell I bet 3sixteen might have something for you.
Just go through all the fits on Blueowl through the designer and compare them to the weird guy fit measurements until you see something you like.

[Anonymous No.8657983]

>>8657975
I don't want to spend more than $200. I've tried comparing measurements, but that can only get you so far. I'll have to just start ordering pairs until I find something I like, I guess.
The most annoying thing is that I usually wear a 27-29 waist, and a lot of brands don't even make jeans that small.

[Anonymous No.8658006]

>>8657983
Try Levis.
Shit you not I know people who swear by the 508 and 514 fits

Anyways, your best option is to track down a good denim tailor and get them tailored. (The weird guys)
it is a pain in the ass, but for the most part raws are a pain in the ass to size.

[Anonymous No.8658027]

http://www.grailed.com/listings/13045-the-flat-head-1001-raw

Manlet here. Should I cop these flat heads? Or is it too risky to cop used raws since the creases will be different between me and the previous owner?

[Anonymous No.8658124]

those who don't wanna wash the raws, put them in a freezer overnight once in a while, it kills the bacteria

[Anonymous No.8658130]

>>8658124
just realized OP already wrote this :'(

[Anonymous No.8658168]

>>8658027
I wouldn't m8

[raw denim god !egv7oJ85Aw No.8658675]

>>8657983
compare more than the waist measurements. get a tape measure and measure your jeans, and put those measurements into this.
http://scout.rawrdenim.com/denim

>>8658124
>>8658130
too bad that's completely false and doesn't work at all

[Anonymous No.8658922]

How are you idiots this uninformed?

Holy shit none of what you guys are saying are correct.

[Anonymous No.8658932]

>>8655646

These will also fade into the outseam. Do you even think?

[Anonymous No.8658949]

>>8656530
austin, texas

[Anonymous No.8658951]

>>8658124
Not true. Many bacteria can survive for months or even years in the vacuum of space, and for millions of years frozen in Antarctic ice. What makes you think your home freezer will kill them (other than some blog post)?

[Anonymous No.8658962]

>>8658006
I'm probably going to try a pair of 501 STF before anything else. I would prefer to try Levis on before buying, and I haven't yet been to a store that stocks 508s in my size.

[Anonymous No.8658965]

>>8655029

Unbranded isn't the cheapest - you can find better deals if you look around.

There's some 16.7oz raw cone mills gold selvedge by some unsuccessful failure brand called People VS West on eBay for $60.

Detailing/style is pretty lame but it really is 16.7oz, same fabric used by Tellason. Construction is sturdy if you can get past the selvedge everywhere.

[Anonymous No.8659002]

>>8658922
Well then post correct information

[raw denim god !egv7oJ85Aw No.8659012]

>>8658965
that coin pocket.. holy shit they look so terrible

[Anonymous No.8659014]

>>8658965
that fucking cuff coin pocket jesus christ thats gross

[Anonymous No.8659137]

>>8659012
>Read this first
>What the fuck is wrong with coin pock-
Oh okay it is cuffed yeah that's pretty bad.

OP here. I know you can shop harder if you hunt around. I just put extremely basic stuff that I've seen discussed on here plenty of times. That's all. I just learned about denimio and am seriously thinking of copping some PBJs now, but they don't have and indigo on black weft so I'm hesitating.

[Anonymous No.8659152]

>>8658965
I have these! They're alright, but I had to get them tailored cuz cut sucked big time.

Hated pockets at first but kinda like it now since it makes it pretty obvious I'm not wearing the same raws everyday.

[Anonymous No.8659153]

I have a pair of APC petite standards on the way in size 28. I usually wear a size 29-30 so hopefully they will fit well. I plan to get them hemmed to 31.5 inch inseam and tapered slightly.

It's usually best to get them hemmed before wearing correct?

[Anonymous No.8659161]

>>8659153
Actually it is best to hem after a soak (I believe) so that way they don't shrink more than that.

[Anonymous No.8659169]

>>8659002

Alright.

>>8655119

You ordered 21oz denim and you're complaining that they're uncomfortable?

>>8655408

>nudies weirdguys

lol

>>8655489

Just because they're white doesn't mean they're not raw

>>8655607

Semantics, but there are few brands that actually have selvedge all the way up to the waistband (I believe some Imperials do). Most selvedge, like you said, do run up to midthigh, however.

>>8655630

Might be hard to see but if there's an actual seam, then it's selvedge. Check out >>8655650 where there is no seam. Alternatively, some brands do stitch on a stripe on the two ends where the selvedge edge should be. This kind should be extremely obvious, however.


>>8655646

This is the most fucking retarded in this whole thread. Selvedge is almost always on the outseam, not the inseam. It doesn't even have to be selvedge to yield those rail fades.

You took a pic of your outseam, by the way.

Reference to >>8658932

>>8656137

Has nothing to do with cleanliness, as in sanitation, if that's what you meant.

>>8656140

Why the fuck would you say anything if you don't know?

Slub is when the denim is woven with irregularly sized yarns. When the yarns are sporadically thicker/thinner, the denim gets a sloppy look to it. The twill isn't as perfectly straight and diagonal. Pic related.

>>8656632

N&F's Japanese denim is woven with Japanese cotton.

[Anonymous No.8659175]

>>8659161
no, it's best to hem after wearing them so they know how tall you are, where your knees hit

[Sieg No.8659197]

>>8659169
Selvedge denim still has an inseam. Usually felled.

Why are you calling other people idiots?

[Anonymous No.8659200]

>>8659197
What are you arguing?

Yes they still do have inseams. But that is absolutely unrelated to selvedge.

[Anonymous No.8659225]

>>8655029

what brands make for the best fading denim?

[Anonymous No.8659237]

>>8659225

Not OP, but that is a very subjective question. Depends on what you prefer (contrast, irregularity, etc).

[Anonymous No.8659245]

>>8659237

I'm kind of new to this thing so I know very little, just recently got into fading jeans, I don't want something too expensive since I'm still experimenting but I want the fades to look good/stand out

[sieg No.8659256]

>>8659200
that selvedge denim still has an inseam you fucking tard

[Anonymous No.8659262]

>>8659256

You are arguing against nobody.

Nowhere did I say that selvedge denim does not have an inseam. Reread what I wrote.

[Anonymous No.8659264]

I just ordered apc ps...
What do I do to them when they come..? Anything, just wear them, soak them, i honetly have no idea

[Anonymous No.8659268]

>>8659264
just wear them

[Anonymous No.8659272]

>>8659264
Fill a tub of cold water, soak em for 15 minutes.
Or just wear em just depends on the person.

[sieg No.8659276]

>>8659245
fading jeans isn't hard.

the jean shorts you had as a kid had all the mainstays, whiskering, honeycombing and were pretty prominent

it's just that these Filipino kids fetishize this shit for some reason

i like selvedge/raw deim because they're low maintence and rugged. tend not to look like shit after a few wears like regular projectile loom jeans due to their inherent material heft (due to the now ancinet manu. process)

you can wear the shit out of some express denim and get fades in those just fine but the overall jean will look pretty bad in about 6 moths

[Anonymous No.8659299]

>>8659276
The last thing you want is moths getting at your denim. 6 moths can do some serious damage.

/fa/ how to keep moths away from my raws?

[Anonymous No.8659373]

Any opinion on APC PS? They were popular not too long ago, how's the quality now?

[Anonymous No.8659502]

can anyone ID these

[Anonymous No.8659506]

>>8659268
>>8659272
if i soal them will they shrink a little because 34inseam is a little long for me
>inb4 manlet shitstorm

[/fa/scist faggot !!ovdI0id3NeK No.8659509]

>>8659502

Just join their forum and ask him.

[Anonymous No.8659511]

>>8659506
A little but not too much.

[Anonymous No.8659512]

>>8659299
moth balls. or hang on cedar hangars.

[Anonymous No.8659516]

>>8659506
cuff, let the stacks flow, or get them hemmed

[Anonymous No.8659564]

>>8659516
i heard hemming them will make them short as fuck when i do the first wash. will it be bad if i hemm them

[Anonymous No.8659572]

>>8659564
Give them a soak before hemming then. Traditionally, you wanna let your clothes shrink before altering them anyways.

[Anonymous No.8659824]

>>8659373
Apparently the quality has dropped slightly in the past few years, and they stretch like 2 sizes after some wear, but people still seem to really like them.

[Anonymous No.8659836]

>>8659824
Oh wait those are PNS. My bad.

This is PS.

[Anonymous No.8659910]

>>8655108

Why didn't you just get levi's if you wanted shitty jeans?

[Anonymous No.8659914]

>>8655119

That's because they're twice as heavy as normal denim.. How dumb are you?

[Anonymous No.8659922]

>>8655408

>wears slow fading jeans.. complains when they fade slow..

holy shit.

[Anonymous No.8659929]

>>8655790

It depends on the denim used in the jean.

[Anonymous No.8659930]

>tfw bow-legged

[Anonymous No.8659944]

>>8659264

Just wear them. They're sanforized so there's no need to presoak unless you want to shrink them just a bit before you wear them.

[Anonymous No.8660061]

>>8657717
>denimio
403 forbidden

the fuck?

[Anonymous No.8660190]

>>8660061
dont trust a site that can't even stay up

[Anonymous No.8660273]

>>8658675
I already tried that site. Pretty neat, but the only thing I can find in my pricerange with it is Japan Blue. Their bright blue inseam thread really puts me off.
>>8659930
Loose-tapered pants (also known as carrot shaped) are your friend.

[Anonymous No.8660428]

So I think I'm pretty set on the Rogue Territory Dark Stantons (or maybe SK if I have a change of heart) but I'm not too big on the fit. Some of the pics I've seen make the Stanton look not very slimming. (This is one of the exceptions though)
SK seems too skinny for me though. Any thoughts or recs for something with a black weft in between those two fits?

[Anonymous No.8660433]

>>8660428
>>8660428
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.8660434]

>>8660428
>set on the Rogue Territory
>don't like the fit

the fuck?

[Anonymous No.8660447]

>>8655040
these are played out you fucking newfag

[Anonymous No.8660448]

>>8660434
Okay let me clarify.
It isn't that I Don't like the fit. I have no idea, I haven't tried them on yet. I was comparing them to my naked and famous skinny guys though, and I just wish the leg had a slight bit more taper is all.

>And I went and double checked measurements and disregard that it IS more of a taper I just misread

[raw denim god !egv7oJ85Aw No.8660789]

>>8660190
>>8660061
they're upgrading their website dipshit

[Anonymous No.8660805]

>>8660789
I hope they add an option to convert CM to Inches. Not that I am THAT lazy, but it just is a pain in the ass to do that converting for a pair of jeans.

[Anonymous No.8660812]

why do so many raw/selvedge jeans use a button fly instead of zippers?

seems like it just creates more stress on the crouch area.

[Anonymous No.8660841]

i can't decide between these two jeans.

price is basically the same
so are the measurements and cut

does anyone know the quality of each
or have general opinions on them?

[Anonymous No.8660850]

>>8660841
bruh are you me I've been pondering this for a while. (Although the Dark Stanton is closer to the ST-120x Shadow Selvedge I believe)
Both are good choices. Cut on the Stanton seems to be better but I'm not sure so I'll wait for someone who actually has a pair to post.

I'm thinking of grabbing a pair of those and then buying a pair of Uniqlo's selvedge to use as a ligher pair but I dunno.

[Anonymous No.8660873]

>>8660850
isn't the shadow selvedge black though?
i thought the dark stanton were just dark indigo

[Anonymous No.8660881]

>>8660841
stanton loks wayyyyyy better

[Anonymous No.8660911]

>>8660873
No shadow selvedge is indigo/black. /r/rawdenim is doing a fade contest on it, so you can go to the thread and get an idea of how it fits pretty easily there.
I'd go with Stanton though, I think it looks better even though it isn't as heavy.

[Anonymous No.8660914]

>>8660841
>>8660881
looks like the 3sixteens are a bit slimmer.

my current best fitting jeans measure 17in across the waist, so would it be better to order the stanton in 31 (16.75 waist) or 32 (17.25 waist)?

[Anonymous No.8660919]

>>8660812
You can't use a zipper on unsanforized denim; it won't deal well with significant shrinkage.

[Anonymous No.8660925]

>>8660914
Go by waist size when comparing sizes m8.
Also I recommend going by blue owl measurements since they measure consistently.
The reason 3sixteens look slimmer is probably because the Stantons you highlighted would be a size 34 in 3sixteen going by waist size.

[Anonymous No.8660933]

>>8660925
i highlighted the tag size 32 for both, which both sites say is a true 33, even if i highlighted the 34 in 3sixteen, it'd still be a slimmer leg than the stanton

[Anonymous No.8660941]

>>8660925
>>8660925
this
go to blue owl. I have always used their sizing guide for jeans and it is insanely accurate. Most websites vanity size like hell.

[Anonymous No.8660945]

>>8660914
Wait something doesn't seem right I'm pretty sure the Stanton is a slimmer cut. Definitely looks like that in photos of the both.

[Anonymous No.8660951]

>>8660933
Eh, you might be right. I'd tread with caution though.
You can't go wrong with either. Just pick the cut that suits you best because both have great quality denim.

[Anonymous No.8660952]

>>8660945
yeah it does, but could be different sizes in both photos? or are you thinking of the SK?

according to size charts from both sites, the leg is slimmer on the 3sixteen (assuming the waist is the same)

[Anonymous No.8660955]

>>8655067
What about the 513?

[Anonymous No.8660961]

>>8660955
Hey if it suits your body go for it. I have 510s. They a'ight. I wish the denim wasn't so shit, I get really hot and itchy wearing them.
>>8660952
I might be. I dunno, I tend to swear by blue owl measurements and they seem relatively identical to me so I'm not sure what to say. Wait for someone who has owned one to speak up.
Both are great quality. Some of the fades on the indigo/black 316s look great. If you end up not being able to make a decision and just pick one, don't feel regret because they are both fantastic denim companies.
I'll stop talking though because I've never owned a pair of either so I'm talking out of my ass a little bit! heh.

[raw denim god !egv7oJ85Aw No.8661163]

just paid $220 for my contest pbjs. my wallet hurts ;-;

[Anonymous No.8661206]

>>8661163
Sup girl
How u livin

[raw denim god !egv7oJ85Aw No.8661231]

>>8661206
as a poorfag masquerading as a non-poorfag ;-;

i'll just sell my body to pay for these jawnz

[Anonymous No.8661238]

>>8661231
Damn
U hard bae

[Anonymous No.8661346]

So are selvedge chinos just tan colored jeans?

[Anonymous No.8661416]

>>8661346

[Anonymous No.8661509]

I was considering getting a pair of APC petit standards but I've heard that the quality isn't worth the money and that they're prone to crotch blowouts.
Is there anything of similar styling and price but better quality? Or should I just cop the APCs?

[Anonymous No.8661707]

>>8661509
APCs are fine yo

[Anonymous No.8661871]

Goddamn these are gorgeous. Any more like it excluding the rainbow ones?

[Anonymous No.8661894]

Can anyone recommend a +20oz sub $250?

[Anonymous No.8661901]

>>8661894
Naked and Famous just released new Elephants.
No opinion on the previous ones though, sorry.

[Anonymous No.8661978]

>>8661894
go to blue owl workshop, get the unbranded 21oz.
expect pants to feel stiffer than cardboard

[Anonymous No.8661991]

>>8661871

What are these?

[Anonymous No.8662002]

>>8661991
>first fucking result on reverse image search
fucking kill youareselvedge

[Anonymous No.8662204]

>>8661871
Man, I'm so bummed that I Didn't grab the rainbow fade they did last year. I saw some awesome pictures of it. They only had it in weird guy though which is what kept me away.
I would wear the living shit out of these things

[Anonymous No.8662582]

Can any UKBros recommend anywhere to get a good pair of first raws? Not wanting to spend too much on my first pair.

[Anonymous No.8662673]

>>8662582
denimio has free international shipping. their prices are the most competitive around

[Anonymous No.8662676]

raw denim has such a pleb look

[Anonymous No.8662684]

>>8662676
Almost as pleb as black skinny jeans, but not quite

[Anonymous No.8662703]

>>8662676
Yeah well I like it. It is fun to see a pair of clothing become your own over the course of a couple years.
Besides, a large majority of people here still wear raw denim because the quality is good and they have cuts they like. Nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.8662768]

>>8661163

Me too. Getting so hyped for it.

[Anonymous No.8662773]

So I was initially gonna cop the Stanton from rogue territory, since it is similar to the skinny guy cut from Naked and Famous (just a little better) but I've been thinking of copping the SK instead. I'm more than slim enough to pull it off (I'm thin enough to wear 510s) I just am somewhat unsure. In the winter, I wear a lot of boots (My go-to pair is my Katahdins) so I don't want it to come off like clown shoes or something as a result. Any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.8662854]

>>8657428

I think Edwin has much more of a presence in Europe than USA. You see quite a lot of people wearing it here in London. On the other hand, I don't think N&F is much of a thing over here.

I like Edwins because it's pretty easy to get their jeans for half price or less online, and their standard/red and rainbow selvedge denims both fade really nicely.

[raw denim god !egv7oJ85Aw No.8662876]

>>8662676
talk shit post fit

[Anonymous No.8662948]

>>8655029
Washing my black skinnies for the first time in 1 1/2 year, wish me luck :^)

[Anonymous No.8663047]

>>8662204
Rainbow core has nothing to do with the weft.

[Anonymous No.8663197]

>>8662876
fit

[Anonymous No.8663795]

>>8663197
#rekt

[Anonymous No.8664248]

Someone help a brother out. Since Levis Shrink to fit shrink in both length and width, does this mean regular un-sanforized and sanforized jeans will do the same?

(Don't give me shit about sanforized not shrinking, because they do, just not as much as un-sanforized)

thanks.

[Anonymous No.8664262]

>>8655258
>power stretch

bruh Idk if you're gonna see this but how are the power stretch jeans? Does the stretch in the denim alter the fades in any way? How are the pants in general? Are they tight around the thigh or do they stretch easily?

pls respond

[Anonymous No.8664338]

>>8664262
This was my first pair before the wash. (They've had a wash before because my cat pissed on them)
Colors are fucked because my back camera is messed so I was using my front
The fades are relatively weak (although they definitely used to be darker) but they still look alright as a beater pair. They stretch pretty quick but that means the knee bags pretty easy. But they are lightweight and perfect for summer so that is a plus. I think indigo power stretch was discontinued. I can post a fit later if you want.
Was posting this from my phone because my cat is in my lap.

[Anonymous No.8664341]

requesting pics of naked and famous black super skinny guy faded.

or any faded black jeans.

[Anonymous No.8664566]

>>8662773
Anyone?

[Anonymous No.8664630]

probably going to buy these (pic related):
http://www.blueowl.us/product/japan-blue-148oz-tapered-vintage-raw-selvedge-denim-model-jb0401/#

anyone have any japan blue?

also it's $75 less at denimio... wtf? how? even with international shipping?
has anyone ordered from denimio before? what's been your experience?

[Anonymous No.8664705]

>>8664630
Raw Denim God ordered from Denimio and says it is legit. It is worth a shot regardless.
Japan blue is pretty good from what I know. The best stuff is their collabs though, so always worth a look.

[raw denim god !egv7oJ85Aw No.8664801]

>>8664262
power stretch jeans have elastic in them which makes them fade slower.

>>8664630
those are great jeans. japan blue is just as good(if not better) as naked and famous when you get it for a competitive price. denimio is cheaper because literally every other online and brick and mortar retailer has a markup because of import prices and other misc reasons. denimio is 100% legit. i'm doing a PBJ contest with them and my jeans should be here in september sometime.

[Anonymous No.8664834]

>>8664801
You probably know more about PBJ than I do. Do they have any good indigo/black pairs on that website? I was looking but couldn't find anything. I'd love some PBJs, but that is only if I can find a good pair and a good cut for someone skinny. heh

[Anonymous No.8664840]

>>8655029
soak in piss

[Rep. !!gVL0FyzPeMv No.8664853]

where do i buy the cheapest unbranded UB101's?

[Anonymous No.8664893]

>>8664801
hey raw denim god
when ordering from denimio would you recommend getting unwashed or 1 wash?

[Anonymous No.8664895]

>>8664853
the unbranded site or blue owl

ebay if you're lucky and theres a pair in your size that has little or no wear

[Anonymous No.8664917]

>>8664630
dude it's worth
i've gotten a pair of the 0406s from them
11/10

[Anonymous No.8665083]

are nudies worth the price? if not, what are some jeans that have the same cuts as nudies do but are good quality?

[Anonymous No.8665115]

>>8665083
Nudies aren't worth full price and take a long time to fade. Might as well go with a pair of APCs.

[Tripsk !!NfEoAU6E/r3 No.8665133]

>>8665083
Nudies will blow out before you get good fades

[Anonymous No.8665182]

>>8665133
Are you that Indian grrrl?

[Anonymous No.8665361]

>>8665115
>>8665133
so they're good if you don't really want fades I presume?
was thinking about copping black or dark indigo. only wear black jeans so I was kind of leaning towards a dark indigo, branch out a little.

[intimacy No.8665369]

>>8665361
my black cotton Thin Finns blew a nasty hole in the crotch only 3 months into the wear. nice cut, but quality is poooor. would only cop on extreme discount

[Anonymous No.8665384]

What size to get for a first pair? I've heard that I should buy a size that is a few sizes smaller than my actual size due to the jeans stretching or whatever. How many sizes would that be exactly? Also, I live near NYC, so should I just go and try on some raw jeans there?

[raw denim god !egv7oJ85Aw No.8665392]

>>8664834
No. Pure Blue Japan doesn't have any indigo/black pairs. They have an indigo/indigo which fades very similarly, but no indigo/black. They have a pair that is indigo/white and then over dyed with black dye, but that's not what you're looking for. I say either go for their slim tapered indigo/indigo xx-012s(which fit almost identically to the Unbranded 101s if you've ever worn those), or go for the Momotaro 0202s, which are on the same quality as Pure Blue Japan. You may need to get them tapered though. http://www.denimio.com/momotaro-jeans-0202sp-indigo-x-black-157oz-selvedge-slim-fit-straight.html


>>8664893
Well, it depends, if you want to have a pair of jeans that is truly customized to your body, get a pair in raw. If you don't want to worry about the hassle of properly shrinking unsanforized denim, get the one wash. They are both very viable options, it just depends on your personal preference.

>>8665083
I don't have much experience with nudies, but i haven't heard very good things about them.

[Anonymous No.8665398]

>>8665384
If you decide to size down don't make the mistake of buying a super uncomfortably tight pair. Most pairs stretch about an inch at most so just buy something that feels good, MAYBE a teeny bit tight if you don't want them to have any extra room.
APCs tend to stretch a bit more, like 2 inches, but not as much as to size down 3-4 like some people recommend.

If you live near NYC go to Self Edge and the dudes there will help you out, very knowledgeable staff who can dispel any rumors/misinformation for you

[raw denim god !egv7oJ85Aw No.8665415]

>>8665384
the best thing for you to do would be to take your best fitting pair of jeans and measure them according to this guide http://www.blueowl.us/measurement-guide/
and then put your measurements into this tool
scout.rawrdenim.com/denim
to find out what pair will fit you best.

I recommend going true to size on almost everything(Except for APCs because they're made of shitty denim that stretches a shit ton), or sizing down a maximum of one for a tighter fit.

as far as brick and mortar stores, you're lucky because you live in NYC and have access to both Self Edge and Blue In Green.

http://www.selfedge.com/index.php?route=information/locations#new-york

http://blueingreensoho.com

go into either of those stores and the people there will help you find a pair of denim that fits you well. they're a tad bit overpriced compared to retailers like Denimio, so i recommend going in to figure out a pair you might want and what size you should chose, and then hunting for it online for cheaper. But it's up to you.

[Anonymous No.8665611]

I'm a brokefag. Should I get some unbranded, or just cop out with some Uniqlo selvedge? I've never bought pants from Uniqlo

[Anonymous No.8665636]

fuccboi here, if you don't want fades, do you simply wash them?

[Anonymous No.8665644]

>>8665611
Uniqlo raws are alright; but like all very cheap raws, the fades are unfantastic to say the least.
For $30, though, who gives a shit? At least the fit isn't bad.

[raw denim god !egv7oJ85Aw No.8665680]

>>8665636
no. all denim will fade. raw or not. if you don't want 'high contrast' fades, which is what most people like, washing them regularly will cause them to fade, but fade all over instead of in a couple places only(high contrast).

if you want denim that doesn't fade, i think this is your only option. http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=6810&category_id=&manufacturer_id=9&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=62

>>8665611
i say go for the unbranded. Uniqlo selvedge is ok, but unbranded is a bit better.

[Anonymous No.8665691]

>>8665611
No, don't get uniqlos selvedge.

[Anonymous No.8665738]

>>8665644
How do they fit? I've got some Levi's 513's and they weren't too bad at first, but have shrunk up a shit ton and are very constricting around the thigh. This time around, I just want some that aren't going to be "skinny".

[Anonymous No.8665742]

thoughts? apc ps

planning on getting a pns or something else, i think the leg opening for these stretched a lot

[Anonymous No.8666369]

>>8665369
does anyone know of any jeans that have similar cuts as nufie high Kai or skinny Lin?

[Anonymous No.8666534]

>>8656652
Just don't get raws, normal (safronized) denim doesn't fade (much) so your nice dark jeans will
stay nice and dark and pretty new looking.
You can still get selvage and they are of no worse quality

[Anonymous No.8666552]

>>8665742
Did you size down? Get a shirt 1 size smaller

[Anonymous No.8666574]

>>8666552
i sized down two, as for the shirt i was just trying it out.

my first pair i sized down 1 and it didn't look good around the crotch area when i wore a belt.

[Anonymous No.8666604]

>>8655086
Tube Tom hands down.

[Anonymous No.8666643]

>>8656984
> Gets raw jeans
> for anything but the sick fades

Uwotm8?

[Anonymous No.8666697]

>>8659836
Holy shit those fades. I came.

[Anonymous No.8666731]

>>8666574
you should really hem them

[Anonymous No.8666747]

Is women's raw denim a thing?

[Anonymous No.8666753]

>>8665133
I swear everyone on here talks about blowouts this, blowouts that. I've never had a pair of jeans blow out or known anyone who's had that happen. Stop fucking doing back flips in skinny jeans.

[Anonymous No.8666808]

>>8666747
Not really, but brands like APC do sizes down to 25-26 if they really want it - women bloggers mostly

[Anonymous No.8666820]

>>8666753
Nudies have thinner fabric sourced from (inferior) turkish cotton and are skinny

People size down ridiculous amounts for APCs to make them skinny

People wear raw denim every day

Elastine in jeans also leads to crotch blowouts

[Anonymous No.8666872]

>>8666731
but dem stax doe

i'll probably eventually hem them, gonna keep them as is for now.

how much do you think i should hem them? i really don't want to hem them too short cause im planning on washing these

[Anonymous No.8667068]

>>8666872
shoulda got pns if u wanted good looking stax

[Anonymous No.8667096]

>>8666872
Those aren't nice stacks. It just makes your sk8 his look like disgusting $5 canvas shoes. Also there isn't enough taper to compliment your shoes

[Anonymous No.8667521]

>>8664338
sorry for the late response I was asleep. Yeah if you could post a fit that'd be awesome. Thanks a lot for the info

[Anonymous No.8667566]

new thread
>>8667524

[Anonymous No.8667733]

>>8666552
His shirt fits fine

[Anonymous No.8667850]

Thinking about buying some N&F jeans. I need some help. I don't really wear skinny jeans because it feels uncomfortable to me (big legs from all this jogging). Should I get slim or tapered (''weird'' on their site).

[Anonymous No.8667989]

>>8664630
>>8664630
>>8664630
Holy shit these are beautiful and exactly what I"m looking for. How's the cut/taper? I have pretty decent sized thighs and i'm usually a 31 waist. Should I size down? Are they a slimmer fit?

[Anonymous No.8668007]

>>8655229
This fucking thumbnail looks like he's about to drink a glass of cum

[Anonymous No.8668137]

>>8664917
How's the cut? Do they have a slim fit? Do you know if they're easily tailored?

[Anonymous No.8668245]

>>8668137
Nvm, blue owl is pretty specific on their description. Looks dope, but if anyone has input i'd be glad to read it.

[Anonymous No.8668397]

>>8667068
yea i know, i got these for 120 so its cool. first pair of denim too so yea

>>8667096
i agree on them not lookin good, im planning on getting them tapered but i dont know if its a good idea.

thanks for input guys