/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.8508721]

So, the /fa/ wiki says don't build your wardrobe on outlets like H&M, Old Navy, Gap, BR, AE, or department stores like Dillard's, Macy's, JCP.

My question is, what's wrong with this shit? Sure, you get what you pay for. But my entire wardrobe is clothes from the mall. I've had everything for well over a year and a half and it all still looks and feels brand new. The occasional lose string sure, but I just snip that off with some scissors.

Seriously, if it's bad to make my wardrobe from these places, then WHERE THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO SHOP?

I'm convinced whoever made the "stores" section is retarded. What the fuck is wrong with these places?

[Anonymous No.8508726]

it's kind of like if you eat mcdonalds your whole life then think to yourself WTF IS WRONG WITH MCDONALDS IT'S PERFECTLY FINE

yeah it's okay i guess, but there's way better shit out there. There's nothing inherently wrong with cheap shitty food, it's just that there are better options out there if you're willing to pay more money

[Anonymous No.8508728]

bait

[Anonymous No.8508732]

>>8508726
I don't make that kind of money where I can just cop some 600 dollaridoo shoes.

Then again I'm a freshman in college soooo

[Anonymous No.8508738]

>>8508728
no b8 fag

[Anonymous No.8508741]

>>8508721

Nothing bad with those other than child slavery and third qorld explotation, but that is for moralfags.

However if you ever happen to buy a genuine designer piece you will start seeing flaws in your mall friendly clothing, like cut, fit, feel, etc
Something similar happens when you see an atractive and fit movie star irl and compare her with ur gf or any other mildly cute girl you have ever known.

[Anonymous No.8508745]

>>8508732
yeah i know what you mean

it wasn't until i was a sophmore in college that I realized i was pissing away my money on stupid shit, and should be buying 600 dollaridoo shoes instead

[Anonymous No.8508746]

>>8508741
>child slavery and third qorld explotation,

you think underpaid workers aren't making your rick owens?

[Anonymous No.8508748]

>>8508745
I kek'd, thanks anon.

[positivity !gZpezKXXc6 No.8508750]

dont trust what anyone actually says on /fa/, just trust yr gut and do what u want. :)

[Anonymous No.8508754]

>>8508721
It's bad because little children and teenagers are the only ones buying that rubbish.

[Anonymous No.8508756]

>>8508746

I don't like that style tho.
But I highly doubt they are making my Loro Piana stuff.

[Anonymous No.8508761]

>>8508726

The analogy is more like, when you go to Subway with a bunch of your college friends and you lead a healthy social life and are happy, but then there's that one weirdo at the back of your Calculus class who has the same budget as you do but only goes out to eat once a month at some high-end restaurant, alone, because he thinks he's a ~food connoisseur~.

Sure, he may eat better food, but who ends up looking like a chump here? It's the same deal with clothes, /fa/ goofninja drones are losers.

[Anonymous No.8508763]

>>8508754
>It's bad because little children and teenagers are the only ones buying that rubbish.
yes, teenagers are buying 400 dollar polo jeans and 300 dollar perry ellis shirts

[Anonymous No.8508771]

>>8508754
You do realize it's all autistic virgin teenagers on /fa/ right? You remember all the times the girls you liked got scooped up by what you aspergers laden marks call "/fit/ basic mall pleb faggots

[Anonymous No.8508780]

>>8508746
Yes

[Anonymous No.8508781]

>>8508763
actually

[Anonymous No.8508783]

>>8508780
got any proof?

[Anonymous No.8508796]

>>8508721

It's because for the most part if you're starting /fa/ you have horrible shit taste and you will most likely gravitate towards the terrible stuff.

All the moralfags trying to say that Slave labor is bad are also the ones that think Flyknits are the shit too. If you know a few things about fit + tailoring and coordination you could always wear 1 H&M or BR piece without looking like a massive cunt.

Macy's & JCP stock decent items at times too, but keep in mind if you have shit taste you'll gravitate towards most of the shit items which would make your time here a waste.

[Anonymous No.8508811]

>>8508796
but i have good taste and have shopped at all of these places

[Anonymous No.8508824]

>>8508811

but you don't

[Anonymous No.8508828]

>>8508824
but I do

if I had the money to be able to cop a single shirt for 1000 bucks and still have all my bills and expenses paid and be comfy, I would

but I don't, so I make do

you can look like a /fa/ggot without spending a lot

[Anonymous No.8508832]

>>8508828

post a fit

no seriously, i'm in the same position as you and i want to see someone who's made it

[Anonymous No.8508835]

>>8508828

Nigga you don't need to cop 1000 dollar shirts to be /fa/

But I'm pretty sure if these stores are where you go to you don't have particularly good taste

I mean you'd do a better job just shopping at Uniqlo, COS & UO for cheap basics

[Anonymous No.8508847]

>>8508832
This is gonna' make me sound fake af, but I seriously don't like posting my pics online. Even if I don't have my face in it. I just don't like it. At. All.
>>8508835
I'll admit 1k for a shirt is exaggerating a bit.

But seriously. Department stores like Dillard's have got GREAT things. Especially on clearance. And fast fashion shops like ON and H&M have great basics.

Out of curiosity, post pics of what you think is a good fit.

[Anonymous No.8508851]

>>8508847

nah s'cool, you seem like a nice guy, i believe you

[Anonymous No.8508852]

>>8508847

[Anonymous No.8508855]

>>8508852
oh my god you silly goofyninja

that is NOT a good fit

[Anonymous No.8508857]

>>8508852
jesus christ, if you think this looks good, then no wonder you think I have shit taste

[Anonymous No.8508860]

>>8508855
let's see one of your fits I am sure you can give us an example of a good fit

[Anonymous No.8508861]

>>8508855

>that
>goofninja

and now I know how you have shit taste

[Anonymous No.8508862]

>>8508852

not him, but wow that looks like shit

i'll never understand the shirt sticking out under the sweater trend. looks horrid.

and i don't like the cropped skinny jeans with shoes that bulky, the silhouette looks bad imo.

but what do i know? :^)

[Anonymous No.8508863]

>>8508771
>>8508761
lol at nobody acknowledging the sad sad truth

I have to go sort out my priorities now

[Anonymous No.8508866]

>>8508862

underlayering is wavy af b

you're probably from some bumfuck suburb in middle america lol

[positivity !gZpezKXXc6 No.8508867]

>>8508855
how is that goof

[Anonymous No.8508869]

>>8508866

i personally tuck my shirt in, having that much shirt hanging out just looks sloppy. there's a difference between your pic and the one posted above.

[Anonymous No.8508873]

>>8508861
>>8508860
I'm more of a fan of menswear. But I also dress casual often too.

A slim fitted solid color oxford tucked into some slim fit jeans and black derby's with a black belt.

[Anonymous No.8508878]

>>8508873

You'd really do better on MFA in all honesty

/fa/ is basically monochrome streetwear + edgy four pins menswear

[Anonymous No.8508882]

>>8508861
That wasn't me, but that black guy looks like shit in those clothes.

That fit there is decent. Not sure if I'd wear it since I like having some color on. Maybe if it had more color, lel.

>>8508866
Pants are nice. Jacket is cool. Shirt is shit, and oh my god those shoes.

[Anonymous No.8508884]

>>8508878

not him. what if i like monochrome that's not streetwear? ie. fits with black chelsea boots and black jeans?

[Anonymous No.8508888]

>>8508878
I fucking hate Reddit MFA.

I've seen plenty of people here with taste similar to mine.

You can never expect a forum to all conform to the same view.

Fashion is diverse like that.

[Anonymous No.8508893]

>>8508860
>>8508861
i'm not the original guy you responded to but c'mon

monochrome

2014?

AND skinny jeans too?

[Anonymous No.8508895]

>>8508884

you can still do that

>>8508888

but you're dadc0re

[Anonymous No.8508896]

>>8508888
Try styleforum, super future, care tags, or style zeitgeist

[Anonymous No.8508901]

>>8508895
No I'm not. But if I am, then that's a compliment, because everywhere I go, people tell me they love how I dress.

>>8508896
I like it here.

[Anonymous No.8508902]

>>8508895

i meant like, which site would be best for me if i dress like that?

[Anonymous No.8508903]

>>8508895
If dadcore is wrong, I don't want to be right

It beats trying to impress autistic friendless virgins on an anime forum

[Anonymous No.8508906]

>>8508903
+1

[Anonymous No.8508907]

>>8508902
See
>>8508896

[Anonymous No.8508908]

>>8508878

>Rules
>Muh only one style accepted club
>Trying to give advice in the most prejudgmental way possible

gtfo faglord

[Anonymous No.8508909]

>>8508895
Top right is too tight

[Anonymous No.8508910]

>>8508903
Huh? Dadcore is weird. Normal people don't dress up every day in chelsea boots and shirts. It's maybe weirder than Gothninja 'cause it looks geeky whereas Gothninja just looks regular autist.

[Anonymous No.8508914]

>>8508903

/fa/ is more of a hobby site than anything just like /v/ is

dadcore is just generic and boring, that's why people here hate it, not to mention the majority of the "goobninjer" shit that you dislike so much trickles down to the majority of menswear

look at four pins or most modern menswear sites and they're basically just picking up off streetwear + japanese styles vs being generic with ocbd's and other menswear shit

>>8508902
for shopping? try wings + horns, reigning champ, apc, COS, uniqlo, even the fucking gap lol

[Anonymous No.8508916]

>>8508914

oh also

club monaco
norse projects
j press york street

[Anonymous No.8509005]

>>8508916
no

[Anonymous No.8509351]

>>8508903
>he thinks dadcore is an actual style and not a word used to make fun of autists like him
ho boy

[Anonymous No.8509667]

>>8509351
>implying it isn't

Get a load of this newfag. The word evolved to become an insult used towards autists attempting to do menswear and prep.

It used to be used to describe what /fa/ would consider to be proper menswear and preppy.

[Anonymous No.8509705]

>>8508721

a lot of the stuff i've bought from malltier stores has glaring quality flaws. I've returned a sweatshirt to H&M because the forearms got permanently stretched out after i pushed them up to my elbows one day. The shirt I got from Old Navy has sort of "shrivelled" at the edges and looks pretty weird. I would say just stick to Uniqlo for basics and spend a little extra buying outerwear and shoes from trusted brands.

[Anonymous No.8509716]

>>8509705
But what about department stores? Dillard's carries nice brands for basics like Hurley and Levi, and for other things Perry Ellis, Kenneth Cole, Calvin Klein, etc.

Everything I've gotten from department stores like Dillard's has been great quality.

[Anonymous No.8509718]

>>8509351

I remember people on /fa/ used to have nonironic "dadcore" threads where they'd post menswear and clarks DBs and shit. Strange that it's now become an insult

[Anonymous No.8509730]

>>8509716

yeah, some mall stores are pretty good, and you can still buy good brands like levis and adidas and nike at the lower end stores. I'd just avoid buying from the house brands at H&M, F21, Old Navy, etc.

[Anonymous No.8509744]

>>8509730
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I've never actually bought from fast fashion shops before. Everything in my wardrobe is from department stores lol.

Never actually shopped online before though. I always like going in to see if it fits right.

I've heard good things about Uniqlo, but there are no stores in the midwest. I'm a slender guy, and slim fitted stuff fits me best. How is the fitting on Uniqlo clothes? Do I need to size up? Size down? Or say right where I am? "small, 29/32, 8.5-9 shoe, etc)

[Anonymous No.8509766]

>>8508783
Aren't Rick Owens made in Italy?

[Anonymous No.8509777]

>>8509744

I buy at my size at Uniqlo, luckily I have the exact measurements of a Uniqlo medium. I can tell you that their button ups, t shirts, and sweatshirts all fit perfectly. Their outwear and blazers doesnt fit as good, but they don't have much of that anyways.

[Anonymous No.8510002]

>>8509705
I've had the shrivelling issue with button downs from jc penny. Over the christmas break they had a deal on some that were about $12 each and they looked pretty nice at first, and had some nice details like back collar button but ended up shriveled.

[Anonymous No.8510006]

>>8510002
what do you mean by shriveled?

[Anonymous No.8510059]

It's all about balance. If you know how to shop and what to look for, you can find good pieces anywhere. H&M is generally going to be shit quality, but I bought some pants there back in April that are great. They're super light and breezy and, despite what I was worried about, haven't worn through at the crotch yet despite the fact that I bike a lot and wear them at least once a week, usually twice. H&M is also good if you need a last-minute fast-fashion suit and don't have very much money to spend.

Department store stuff usually fits like shit and is often overpriced for the quality, but again, if you know how to shop, you can find good stuff. Then just get it tailored.

Think about the quality that you need for certain items. A couple t-shirts that you're going to be sweating and biking in aren't going to be worth spending $120 on, no matter how godly the drape is. Just go to American Apparel and spend $25 on something that fits great and isn't made by kids in Bangladesh.

On the other hand, you may want a knit sweater that will be warm but breath well, fit great, and not unravel after a month, in which case, it's probably worth going to that boutique run by those two hip early-30s dudes and spending $240 on a Norse Projects knit.

Is what you're looking for a staple or an accent piece?

What it boils down to is think about how you're going to wear things, what your priorities are. Learn to look for quality, learn to focus on how things fit, and think about what kind of wear you'll get out of things, how much wear and tear or relative care they will be subjected to, think about what is and isn't easily replaceable, what will and won't be abused, and then go out there and look for good cops anywhere and everywhere.

Whether that's fast fashion outlets, curated boutiques, ASOS/other online stores, malls/department stores.... figure out what you're looking for and shop with focus and care.

[Anonymous No.8510067]

>>8508761
too deep man

[Laserface !/VJxsUn3ao No.8510077]

>>8509766
italy has bad child labor laws

[Anonymous No.8510087]

>>8510059
I have an extremely slim body, I don't lift at all or do cardio, and all the slim fit dress shirts I've copped from department stores fit like a glove without tailoring.

[Anonymous No.8510139]

>>8510087
this guy >>8510059
is a retard lol

[Anonymous No.8510147]

>>8510087
tell me where u goin bro i want to shop there

[Anonymous No.8510150]

>>8510139
i may have down syndrome but i can use computer so dont diss my posts plz

[Anonymous No.8510178]

>>8510006
I guess when they stitched it up in the factory they didn't take into account the amount of relief they should have given the fabric, and so it sort of curls in all directions at the hem and some other parts of the shirt.

Not something you can fix by ironing btw.

[Anonymous No.8511355]

>>8510147
Dillard's bro.

[Anonymous No.8511390]

>>8508796

>if you're starting /fa/ you have horrible shit taste

>implying /fa/ provides you with good taste
>implying /fa/ average poster's taste isn't just as shitty as pleb's one but on the expensive side

>>8508721

The problem is not that their clothes are going to fall apart but more a question of fit, material and taste. These places are aimed for the general public. The general public doesn't give a fuck about clothing. Give a walk on the street. Do you think the average man you see out there has thought for more than a couple of seconds what he was going to wear that day? Do you think he took more than that couple of seconds to decide wether he should buy or not the clothes he's wearing? Nope.

There's no problem with that. They can do whatever they want to. But you should aim for something better.

Oh, not saying you can't find good pieces in those places. But it will be hard.

[Anonymous No.8511401]

>>8511390
>Oh, not saying you can't find good pieces in those places. But it will be hard.
Hasn't been hard for me.

[Anonymous No.8511417]

>>8511390
http://www.jcpenney.com/jsp/search/results.jsp?fromSearch=true&Ntt=slim+fit&ruleZoneName=XGNSZone&N=507%204294965755&Ns=PLH

[Anonymous No.8511487]

bump

[Anonymous No.8511560]

>>8510059

[Anonymous No.8511663]

>>8509351
>2014
>streetwear

Childcore

[Anonymous No.8511872]

>>8511663
lel

[Anonymous No.8512099]

>>8508863
pls come back in comfy salmon pastel shorts and jcrew fitted shirts (none of the /fa/ggot designs jcrew puts on too)

also post fit

[Anonymous No.8512119]

>>8508901
i bet most of those people who complimented you have daddy issues :^>

[Anonymous No.8513962]

>>8509667
and then /fa/ evolved and hear you are in your peacoat still

[Anonymous No.8513989]

>>8508741

Buying cheap overseas products sends capital overseas.

You are making that worker, that factory owner, and that country wealthier.

If you buy American / European / Canuck you are supporting workers in less need of capital.

Not buying sweatshop is a fashion statement that kills.

[Anonymous No.8514077]

>>8513989
I'm not sure you know what capital means in this context. Additionally, your sentiment is misplaced.

The problem with sweatshops is that factory owners pay their workers far less than is deserved and the working conditions are dangerous and often inhumane.

The reason to buy from within your own country is that it keeps the money within your economy and stimulates local business growth and employment. You should not feel bad about robbing a little Indian kid of his 50¢, you should feel good that Joe Schmo down the street can run his family clothing business on your dollars and provide jobs for Westerners who have 'progressed' to thinking office jobs at the expense of making tangible products. America, for example, imports almost everything and exports next to nothing besides natural resources and software. The country will eventually fail because it has become non-self-sustaining. It's too reliant on the workforce of developing nations with unstable governments and infrastructure.