/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.8303762]

Worlds oldest pants

http://www.businessinsider.com/first-time-people-wore-pants-2014-5

[gaspar No.8303764]

Damn, who knew White Mountaineering was around back then

[Anonymous No.8303768]

w2c

[Anonymous No.8303777]

>>8303762
balmain biker jeans a/w 2014 b.c.

[Anonymous No.8303779]

dope

[Anonymous No.8303808]

>>8303762
Needles rebuild/boro pants f/w -1000

[Anonymous No.8304223]

ancient manlets invented pants who knew

[Anonymous No.8304241]

>>8304223
Everyone was a manlet back then. If you were 5'5 you were a tallfag.

[Anonymous No.8304267]

>>8304241
No you weren't. Average height through most of human history for settled peoples range from about 5'4" - 5'10", and nomadic tribes frequently reached 6' on average.

[Anonymous No.8304283]

sick knee patterns

[Anonymous No.8304296]

>>8304267
neat

[Anonymous No.8304317]

>>8304223

they invented just about everything else as well

meanwhile the tallfags have done the same thing for nearly 5000 years, namely consume more resources and still die earlier than everyone else

[Anonymous No.8304325]

>>8304267
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.8304329]

>>8304317
>mfw ancient greeks were 5'6-5'7 average
>epitome of a cultured society
>tallfag africans be 6'0 tall
>building domes made out of mud while greece were building stone monuments
Geez im projecting my insecurities with average height so hard.

[Anonymous No.8304330]

sick fades
3000 years 0 washes

[Anonymous No.8304334]

>mfw my grandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrandfather might've worn these pants
>:^)

[Anonymous No.8304349]

>>8304317
>>8304329
ofcourse. manlets always were
>feels general
so they felt the need to compensate
want a proof? napoleon was a manlet, hitler was a manlet, breivik is a manlet, etc.
tallgods dont need no compensation, they can live a simple life and still enjoy it
>ancient greek, 5'6, classic education, speak 3 languages fluently
>i just want to cuddle persephone so bad ;_;
>tfw you were born too early to fly like Icarus
>tfw you were born too late to fight in Trojan war ;_;
>ancient afrofag, 6'3, no education, lives in a house from elephant shit and sticks, eats once in 2-3 days when hunt is success
>unga-bunga 8^) me fuk jamalita

[Anonymous No.8304362]

>>8304329

Ancient Greece was 2500 years ago bro

In Africa today they're still living in those same mud huts

>>8304349

>napoleon was a manlet

not among his countrymen. this is a myth

Alexander was short as well, and he's arguably the greatest leader in history.

What have tallfags accomplished besides throwing a ball into a hoop better?

[Anonymous No.8304388]

This has actually turned into a tallfag vs shortfag thread...

This could have so easily turned into a 'historical origins of modern day clothing' but you shits have to throw around your insecurities

[Anonymous No.8304397]

>>8304362
silly argument tbh
prvs post was a joke
well, out of my head
abraham lincoln was a tallfag, like 6'4 or sth
and I'm sure a shitton of other people, if we consider 6'2 to be a tallfag.

[Anonymous No.8304398]

>>8304388

It's the tallfags that are insecure.

No sooner had the thread started than someone threw out the word manlet

>h-how does it feel to be inferior, s-stupid manlets...

[Anonymous No.8304405]

>>8304397

Abraham Lincoln release the niggers from bondage

Your daughter will have Tyrone's baby because of him

That's not a great leader in my mind

[Anonymous No.8304419]

>>8304405
>implyin niggers are not treated like animals in my country
>implyin their population in my country is more than 0.1%
good one m8 :^)
tho would be so nice to still have niglets as slaves

[Anonymous No.8304421]

>>8304388
How come we never talk about that kind of fashion here?
I never got why and what kind of designers do that shit, like, no one will buy that shit.

[Anonymous No.8304440]

>>8304421
Because people are dumb and lazy.
You're right, Gareth Pugh didn't make anything nor did he sell anything from the runway during his first three years after graduations. He just kept showing at London Fashion week season after season with these wicked costumes that everyone loved but no one would buy.

[Anonymous No.8304454]

>>8304440
Then one day Owens Corp picked him up and his designs became more palatable for a larger audience and has more or less reworked some of his older ideas into the current line.

[Anonymous No.8304472]

>>8304454
I still don't see the point of making those customs.
What's the demographic he appeals to?
Rich people?

[Anonymous No.8304477]

>>8304472
Then or now?

[Anonymous No.8304480]

>>8304472
experimentation etc
small design features and motifs and ideas flow down through to more accessible fashion

[Anonymous No.8304491]

>>8304477
Then and now

>>8304480
I'm guessing he gets payed to make customs that no one would buy, or else he would stop.

[Anonymous No.8304492]

>>8304480
No.
They don't risk the runway, something which makes or breaks that designers career (you are only as safe as your most recent collection) for experimentation.
Designers don't produce so fast fashion can dilute.
That's just a uncontrollable consequence.

[Anonymous No.8304517]

>>8304492
'Experimentation' was a bad word for him to use, but his point about having influence is valid. It's sort of a weird thing to say though - accessible fashion and art can have influence too. It's not unique to more avant-garde (again, not a great word to use) / high art fashion.

Inaccessible, unpractical art exists in every other type of art as well. Why do people make dance music that is too weird for a mainstream audience? Why do architects make buildings that look so strange? Why do artists make paintings that don't make sense to you?

I don't even have a good answer for you, I can't really put it into words. But if you were more into fashion, you might appreciate it. You might find it important and powerful in spite of being something you'd never wear.

[Anonymous No.8304539]

>>8304491
Then because the grind for a designer is so real you need to eat shit for years and put it all on the line, crossing every conscious body part and kissing every baby just to be given a shot.
He did that, the mysterious workings of Owens Corp decided he was worth it and he was nurtured by one of the greatest contemporary fashion houses.
I'm having a really hard time finding Geoffrey B Small's article on the subject of how difficult it is for young designers but it proficiently articulates why it was necessary for Gareth Pugh to do what he did then.

His recent collections are rad. Buys are more enthusiastic with every subsequent season.

>>8304491
Not that I am aware. Why would someone pay him to make costumes that no one would buy? Why would you think that?
iirc he won awards and scholarships often ranging within 20,000pounds but that's not exactly a lot to subsist on.

[Anonymous No.8304552]

>>8304517
I'm not denying that designers experiment...
But given Gareh Pugh's background and where he was at that moment I don't think he had the luxury of 'experimentation'.
So no, it's a completely unreasonable conclusion.
I wasn't sure whether he was talking about the designer being influenced or the designer influencing fast fashion markets.
Of course people have reference points in there work...

Your whole narrative here is founded in a misunderstanding.
I can only tell you right now that you've wasted your time and I have no idea why you thought any of that necessary.
I never questioned 'why' he made it.

[Anonymous No.8304683]

>>8304539
anorak i wish you'd post with your trip so I can search through the archive for your posts

[Anonymous No.8304692]

>>8304539
Thom Browne has insane, unwearable runway shows, but still makes ready to wear, accessible clothing to sell. Why wouldn't he just do both from the beginning?

[Anonymous No.8304725]

>>8304692
I actually don't know much about Thom Browne at all.

However I do know that like CDG, there are Thom Browne collectors who buy those pieces you consider 'unwearable' simply because they are so beautiful, exotic and glamorous.

I guess to address why he didn't d both from the beginning...Well I don't know, everyone has their own unique discourse and that is something I can demonstrate.

Helmut Lang spent his earliest days in dress making as a MtM tailor in a small shop in Vienna. I don't know why, maybe to improve his craft on a technical level and familiarise himself with the current market. Perhaps it gave him a good indication of where the world was and where he should begin his journey as a designer.

Carol Christian Poell not dissimilar in that he spent his early career (can't remember where) but as effectively a traditional tailor making contemporary suiting. Then one day he started making things for aquatic humanoids and mutilated corpses.

So I guess what I'm saying here is everyone starts from their own unique environments and looks to do use the resources available to them at that time to produce what they think is valuable at that moment. Then maybe at some point they decide that they done enough of that/achieved what they wanted and have found a totally new environment for themselves to craft a whole different universe.

I can safely assume (knowing nothing of Thom's earlier career) that maybe he also started out just refining his worksmanship as a tailor, making well made garments for people that could afford it. Then one day he decided he had progressed enough to where he could design garments based on stardusted satyrs dancing around roman gardens to psychedelic tunes.

[Anonymous No.8305421]

>>8304388
> 'historical origins of modern day clothing'
I have a question: how could humanity come up with something as ugly as sneakers?

[Anonymous No.8305443]

>>8305421
For sport you fucking dipshit

[Anonymous No.8305446]

>>8304317
>ancient greek, can speak 3 languages but collapse due to inability to sustain itself
>rely on social security like a fat poor fag
>the military was deduced to a barbaric bunch mercenaries who raped and pillaged and ignored calls to defense on multiple occasions leading to declining territory
>deforested entire greek peninsula within 200 years
>couldn't control all of its 'freedom'
meanwhile, tallfag africans sustained their way of life for millennia living in perfect control of their resources, had excellent diets, and kept food on the table for literally every member of their tribe. The age expectancy and hygiene levels of tallfag africans were ten fold that of manlet greeks, by all means they were the model of a perfectly efficient society. their militaries were centuries ahead of the manlet's in gorilla tactics and it wasn't until the manlet's could figure out how to compensate with big guns to have any last military defeats on the tallfags. of course, this all changed when the manlets invaded, imposed their manlet ways on tallfags, and corrupted the genepool with their manlet impurities.

tallfags really are the master-race bitch.

[Anonymous No.8305453]

>>8305443
And why would people wear it outside of the stadium today?

[Anonymous No.8305454]

>>8305453
Because they don't want to change their shoes?

What is the issue here?

[Anonymous No.8305456]

>>8305446
> gorilla tactics
That is one way to say it

[Anonymous No.8305470]

>>8305454
They make people look like 14 year olds, that's the issue.

[Anonymous No.8305471]

>>8305470
That's your issue.

[TP|Lean Killer//Guap Gawd !!M/8ntLE+we3 No.8306900]

>>8303764
lmao
>>8303777
lel
>>8303808
oh lol

[Anonymous No.8306922]

>>8304241
>being over 5'5
>being attractive

Lol enjoy your homo-sapiens goofy genes, plebs. Good luck finding some white pussy. Neander/fit/s are superior

[aiouh !!2EBwZerKFLu No.8306957]

sikk fadezzzzz

[Anonymous No.8306991]

Looks like CCP after 2 months wear.

>>8304362
Napoleon wasn't even short.