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Searching for a watch in the 5k-10k dollar price range. I find Rolex and other popular mid tier watch brands (Breitling, Omega, Tudor, whatever) overplayed. I don't like Grand Seiko.

What I'd like is a relatively versatile watch; idc about the bracelet's material, I'm talking about water resistance here, something that doesn't break if I take a shower or swim with it.
I also want it to have a 'wow' factor, I know I won't get anything as renowned as Lange or Patek for 10k since I'm not willing to buy used, but Rolex is common as fuck here and something a bit more interesting would be nice. Not too complicated, I don't care about chronographs or whatever, and bloated watch faces are horrid.

Any recommendations in terms of specific models? Pic is what I don't want

>> No.8008311

>>8008296
so let me get this straight

-rugged
-versatile
-not diver (like pic)
-sth other than bretiling, rolex etc.
-not complicated (eg no chronograph)
-wow factor

>> No.8008319

>>8008311
>rugged
I just don't want an overly dressy watch like a Calatrava (can't afford it anyway lol) or a Reverso.
>versatile
Yes
>not diver
Not a huge bezel with useless gas escape valves or whatever, yes.
>sth other than bretiling, rolex
Yes.
>not complicated
Yep. I'd like to avoid a date function too if possible, if not whatever
>wow factor
Yep. Most of the people I work with own stuff along the lines of Rolex, Cartier, Omega, nothing really interesting, I'd like to stand out a bit.

>> No.8008321
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8008321

a CdC

now go away

>> No.8008324

>>8008321
Two of my coworkers own Cartier watches
And I don't like how they look anyway

>> No.8008330
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>>8008324
hows this

>> No.8008328

>>8008324
so now you know you're on the same correct tier

stop acting like you're better than anyone

>> No.8008332

>>8008311
Exactly.

>>8008296
Try Tagheuer, their best watches are out of your range, but since you're looking for something that's not complicated they have quite a few watches in the 5k-10k range.

>> No.8008337

>>8008328
>better than anyone
Did I imply this
Stop being mad
>>8008330
Pretty nice
Can't I afford anything higher end than Longines considering my budget?
>>8008332
Any specific models you'd recommend?

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>>8008321
>>8008330
you people have no taste.

>>8008337
Longines and Tag are considered entry swiss brand, not very good bang for the buck.
If you want to go swiss you might want to take a look at Frederique Constant, their bang for the buck is unbeatable

>> No.8008359

>>8008337
Tag allows you to sort from 5k-10k, I'm partial to the Carrera models, but they might be a little busy for you
https://shop-us.tagheuer.com/en/watches.html/f/price/2,5000

>>8008342
Watches aren't my area of specialty, I'm going off aesthetics so you're probably right.

>> No.8008382

forgive me for asking but i've been lurking this thread and i've been wondering what makes these watches $5k+ pieces.

i mean, they all look pretty unremarkable. especially those tagheuers looks like your average black market knockoff. they don't look like they have any valuable metals in them either.

am i missing something here?

>> No.8008386

Yo buy that Carhattwatch w/ all the fucked up numbers

If 9 was 6
I'll sell u mine for 6k9

>> No.8008391

how about IWC? no specific rec, but they have quite a few different models in that range

>> No.8008390

>>8008386
Didnt mean to rhyme that but now u can save it n impress all ur coworkers w/ the watch u bought from me

>> No.8008394

>>8008382
Most watches that are worth more than 5k are manufactured, designed, assembled in first world countries, people doing them are highly qualified and hence have a good salary. It takes a shit load of time to assemble a watch, tune it, etc and are generally made with precious metals.
The fact that those brands have also a huge marketing department had some price to it.
However some brands like Patek raise their price for premium branding.

>> No.8008416

>>8008394
that makes sense
still seems to me it should be a funny feeling walking around with a watch you paid $5k+ for that, for all intents and purposes, looks and runs the same as one that cost a lot less because it was assembled in a 3rd world country.

i guess i'm just so used to buying $2 t-shirts and $5 sweaters that i sometimes forget things aren't supposed to be this ridiculously inexpensive and that a $5000 watch is actually a pretty reasonable price.

>> No.8008422

>>8008342
>Nomos

>i-it's superior b-because it has in-house m-movements

nobody cares, it's obvious you're an armchair collector that gets his opinions from forums because if you ever actually handled a nomos they feel like flimsy weighted simplistic crap

>> No.8008430

>>8008416
People who buy those watches do it for different reasons : they really like watches, the watch they wear was a child dream or they want recognition.

>>8008422
>never mentioned it was an in house movement or that it was superior
>makes a rant

>> No.8008431

>>8008416
Watches are a luxury good. A 5k watch is going to be very, very well made. However, I think you're still paying quite a bit of money for the brand, especially on the 10k+ ones.

>> No.8008443

>>8008430
>posts watch proudly while claiming other people have bad taste
>never mentioned it was superior

you're not fooling anyone

>> No.8008446
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>>8008443
They have bad taste because the design is horrible, I actually don't give a shit it's in-house since it's a copy of a generic movement. My grail is pic related.

>> No.8008451

>>8008342
>you people have no taste.
Posts overpriced watch with "in house" movement which is actually modified ETA.
I dont even.

>> No.8008469

I have the same price range as OP (around 9k, I'd rather not go above unless it's worth it) but I have no real requirements apart from the fact that I prefer more sporty looks (and bracelet/rubber strap) to dressy stuff
I don't have a use for a chrono either and since they raise the price well I should probably forget it

What should I look into? I heard Rolex was a safe value but I don't know about all their models. What differentiates the Sub from, say, the Yacht Master, Air King, Milgauss or whatever
Cartier seems pretty cool too but I don't know if they look good in real life?
Any other options I have? Tag looks like shit imho

>> No.8008473

Is buying an old watch (40's or 50's Omega or something similar) a good idea? Or will it need constant repairs?

>> No.8008475

>>8008337
course you can, just seeing if you like this style.

>> No.8008476

>>8008469
Omega speedmaster

>>8008473
nope, they can break any moment

>> No.8008479

>>8008476
The Speedmaster looks good, any other recs apat from that? I'd like to be able to choose from a range of models
And my question about Rolex models... Could anyone give me insight?

>> No.8008495

>>8008479
Save cash for dark side of the moon and buy greatest watch ever.

>> No.8008507

>>8008495
what

>> No.8008538
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>>8008507

>> No.8008602

>>8008538
How much does this cost?

>> No.8008608

Opinions on the Rolex Milgauss?
Good beater? Or should I just get a sub?

>> No.8008628

>>8008608
used subs are cheaper
the milgauss looks to generic imo

>> No.8008629

>>8008602
12k I think, 10k on eBay.
Fully ceramic case with brushed and glossy finish, cordura strap with leather inside.
I don't think that you can get anything like that in this price range.

>> No.8008634

>>8008629
And it's def. wow watch unlike all those generic Rolex watches and such "classic" pieces.

>> No.8008753

Any good simple designed looking watch under 200USD?

Don't bully, it's hard being a poor student :(

>> No.8008828
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8008828

>>8008753
i have this Certina DS, it was just a little bit over $200 if i can remember well

>> No.8008894

>>8008296
IWC Portuguese or Big Pilot.

>> No.8008895

iwc

>> No.8008911

>>8008469
I have a Rolex, and they do keep their price very, very well. I could probably even make profit from my purchase.

The differences are mostly looks and size between their watches, as well as the pressure rating. Sorry to say, but it is kind of a dumb question.

>> No.8008980

Basically... entry level professional wants an entry level professional's watch (Rolex) but refuses to get a Rolex.

"I want to "wow" ppl so they know I'm better than their cliche brands but I don't wanna pay more than the cliche price".

Not gonna happen man, just accept that you're a sheep just like the other "luxury watch owners" and buy a Rollie Sub, SD (just came out with a ceramic bezel SD at Basel 2014!), Milgauss, or some shitake like that.

>> No.8009007

>>8008980
No you pleb

10k is enough to get some Jaeger LeCoultre, for example

Sure he won't get any Lange or Vacheron for that price but JLC, Zénith El Primero, IWC Portuguese/Ingénieur, etc etc

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>> No.8009166

One of the full-german made companies perhaps:

Damasko's latest offerings with their technomagical in-house movement?
Transcend's "rugged". It's the only brand with black-metal watches that cannot have the "black coating" scratched off - Sinn certainly can be.
A wonderful piece of engineering. Although, could be considered boring in appearance.

Nomos are more dressy. They do have some pricier models in your range I think. Total German made/ in-house designed movements.
Could be considered too sombre, though I don't think of that of the Bauhaus aesthetic.

Glashuette Original:
If A.Lange & Soehne is the German contender for top prize (like Patek is to Swiss made), the GO are like Rolex tier, and just as flashy. Swatch group, so I don't know about their internals.

All the german brands, with perhaps the exceptions of the last 2 I mentioned, are perhaps an acquired taste.

They are very stolid. Very Teutonic. If I had 5000 or whatever it is lying around I'd be interested in the Damasko's with the "never, ever service in your lifetime or the next" movement (denoted the the red "Si" on their dials).

Wonderful pieces of over engineering from what's in reality a side business of a metallurgical/industrial/aerospace firm.

>> No.8009161

>>8008753
look into Orient, they make p. good automatic watches at around that price range

>> No.8009389

>>8009166
>Nomos
>Total German made/ in-house designed movements.
Nope. Just ETA modified so they can tell it's in house. Similar to what Tag did with Seiko chronograph movements I think.

>> No.8009385
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>>8008753
i bought the SeaGull 1963 a few weeks ago, very happy with it. it's probably the cheapest mechanical chronograph you'll find anywhere, though it might not fit your "simple" criteria exactly.

price on watchunique comes down to 214 dollars ex tax
pic related

>> No.8009447

>>8009389
Nope.

>> No.8009496

>>8009447
Actually I should say that you are partially right.
Some of their movements were based on older ETA's. But they do have some in-house movements (though I think some of them were outsourced designs from Wempe - that oft forgotten german firm)

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8009531

Do you even Corum OP?

>> No.8009558

>>8008469
>Cartier seems pretty cool too but I don't know if they look good in real life?

lel they're luxury jewelers that have been around for over centuries

everything they make is gorgeous. even their simple circular bracelets are machined and brushed in such a way they catch light in the most attractive manner.

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>>8009531
>>8009158
>>8008828
>>8008330
>>8008321
Neckbeard tier watches. Fucking disgusting.

>> No.8009621

>>8009588

Lel I bet you wear swatch you fucking faggot

>> No.8009722
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8009722

>>8009447
I'd rather wear this in blue dial variant (couldn't find good pic) than any of this Cartier, Nomos and Junghans shit you posted.

This is just beautiful.

>> No.8009743

>>8009621
>le defensive hairy armed neckbeard
Not my fault you have shit taste.

>> No.8009770

>>8009722
Or this.
Because it looks nice and is crafted well, not beacuse some fat rich neckbeards told it's good brand and movement.

>> No.8009843

>>8009743

I have more money and taste than you ever will

Also

>dat projection

>> No.8009941

>>8009722
>This is just beautiful.

boring, generic diver IWC yawn.
nothing special about them
had an GST chrono (titanium)
nothing but accuracy problems and QC issues
flipped
portuguese is nice but getting too close to dinner plate for taste

>> No.8010120

>>8008296
Sarpaneva.

Won't come by another one in every street corner.

>> No.8010232

>talk shit about Nomos
>posts junghans
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.8010754

>>8009385
How reliable is it? Lose much time?

>> No.8010983

>>8009385
Wearing it now, still a great watch for the price, i probably need to get it serviced soon, i see specks of dust in the face and it has lots of cosmetic scratches

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Hello, noob question but I can't seem to find an answer:

Does an automatic movement mean it has a continuous second hand or are there autos with a ticking second hand?

>> No.8011103

>>8008296
Go for something by Zenith
They're quality and rep is up there with Rolex etc but nowhere as overplayed.

Check out the Espada range for versatile/bling/simplicity

Here's a two-tone Rose-gold and SS for 7k. Otherwise basic SS is around 5.

http://www.jomashop.com/zenith-watch-51-2170-4650-01-m2170.html

>> No.8011154

>>8011062
there are generally no autos that tick

>> No.8011207

>>8009531
snowboarderCORE
not /fa/

>> No.8011232

daily reminder that buying expensive watches makes you the worst kind of person

>> No.8011256

>>8011232
lol
go back to bed child

>> No.8011274

>>8011232
>makes you the worst kind of person
Yes, the Datejust I bought with the spare change I saved over the years makes me worse than child molesters and murderers. I am worse than a terrorist because I spent $3,000 on a watch (which isn't that expensive, compared to most other things in this thread). I make Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler look like schoolchildren when I wear my watch. My soul is pitch darkness. If only me watch was as black as the suit and fedora that I wear daily. In moments of pure evil, I am euphoric.

>> No.8011755

>>8011062
mechanical have sweeping seconds. Auto means you don't have to rewind manually. Also the dead beat second is a complication for mechanicals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhK4UiVsGA8

>> No.8011827

>>8008416
It's mostly just a status symbol. For being rich. Where you exist at a point where a 5k watch has a similar value as a $100 watch to the middle class, a suit to the poor and a child to the ultrapoor

money scales

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>>8008538
This one looks much better.

>> No.8012348
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8012348

>>8009531
Second this.

>> No.8012374

this thread is so weird are you guys all just regular /fa/ users or do you all just gather for watch threads

>> No.8012448

The only aesthetic watch in this whole thread is the one in the OP, fucking kek at all these shitters with pleb tier taste.

>> No.8012489

for old money imo
modern gen tech watches are growing in trend, and tech will continue to evolve leaving the tinker toys redundant

>> No.8012522

>>8012342
Yeah I also like vintage Speedmasters but this black ceramic one is just perfect for modern watch. And it's really impresive that they made two finishes (brush and gloss) on fucking ceramic.

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Plus one for IWC

>> No.8012536

>>8012374
This is actually one of threads with almost no shitposting. Until I start posting watches I like.

>> No.8012541

>>8012529
im coming to melb, send 4 racks to my room, i need to make it rain (read: 1 jacket) at em