[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/fa/ - Fashion

View post   
File: 41 KB, 599x602, comme on my face.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
7749240 No.7749240 [Reply] [Original]

Let's talk about how we all hated CDG from the get go anyway and we recommended them as an in joke the whole time

>> No.7749248

>>7749240

I love CdG. I love the many facets, I love the origin, I love the independent spirit, I love the sense of both connectedness and individuality of each line, I love everything about them as both a brand and as a company.

>> No.7749247

if you mean PLAY then yes it is a joke

>> No.7749286

>>7749247
Totally, bro! Haha how cool and ironic are we?

>> No.7749297
File: 91 KB, 500x669, cdg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
7749297

plays pretty wack.
rest of their shits nice. finna cop a two zip wallet if i can find the right price.

>> No.7749406

cdg play is shit, yeah. i've been saying that for years. homme+ and homme and shit is good tho

>> No.7749457
File: 242 KB, 1065x700, cdguniverse.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
7749457

xD

>> No.7749488

I haven't seen anyone on here wear play anything except the converse

>> No.7749498

>>7749488

User wore a fair bit of CDGH+

>> No.7749499

>let's stop liking designers whom we know nothing about and start liking new ones, just because somebody I don't like (for no real reason) was wearing something from their diffusion line

top fuccboi

>> No.7749507

I only ever see people wear play, and it's only ever black kanye drones or asians on campus.

>> No.7749529
File: 76 KB, 500x690, 1391819424175.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
7749529

u guys know how apparently when rei's debut show finished 50% of the audience gave a standing ovation and 50% booed

did that actually happen like does anyone have video it seems too unbelievable to me

str88 out of anime

>> No.7749531

I always Loved CdG

Tao, Ganryu, Comme Comme, Comme des Garcons, CdGh+ are all great

Not a fan of Homme, Robe de Chambre, or anything else designed by Junya, not a fan of Homme Deux either

>> No.7749544

>>7749529

It's pretty hard to find videos of '81 collections from both Yohji and Rei in Paris

There's a pic of Yohji's finale and a pic of two of Rei's looks but afaik no vids of either show other than probably deep in some people's archives

>> No.7749545

sum1 give me a rundown on all the lines theres too many

>> No.7749548

Sizing is really strange

Somethings I'm a S in, somethings I have to go M or Large. I think old CdG Shirt when it was made in France is big as fuck

>> No.7749556
File: 291 KB, 639x355, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
7749556

>>7749529
>>7749544

Pic related

GG NO RE

>> No.7749561
File: 123 KB, 500x349, tumblr_mydim8nVRB1rexlfio1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
7749561

Why is Rei always sad? I love the design work they do for promotional shit

>> No.7749579

>>7749531

I miss Tao.

>> No.7749605

>>7749545

Comme des Garcons as a whole stands in a "Punk" stance against stereotypes, gender roles, social / cultural standards.

>Comme des Garcons

Mainline Womenswear, biggest pillar of the empire

>Comme des Garcons Comme des Garcons / Comme Comme, "Cutesier" and more Japanese womenswear line, collections seem to carry common themes

>Homme

First Menswear line, now designed by Junya

>Homme Plus

Main menswear presented in Paris

>Homme Plus Evergreen

Like Margiela's Replicas, reiterations of pieces from past collections

>Homme Deux

CdG's take on the business suit, started as an initiative to showcase "Japanese Style" to the rest of the world, targeted an older audience

>Shirt

Shirts, now expanded to somewhat simple (in comparison to mainline) shirts, hats, pants

>Play

Collab with Filip Pagowski, "bankroll" line, what most people know cdg for

>Black

launched in 2009 / 2010 as an emergency line directed towards a new younger audience after the global economic crisis, was very successful and stayed as an independant line in itself, lower priced black dominated pieces. started as womenswear, now has menswear as well i think

>robe de chambre

started as a housewear line for women, expanded into outerwear. made in italy, cheaper because no export tax to enter the european market. discontinued.

>Tao

Tao Kurihara, another main designer under the cdg umbrella, launched 2006 as independant collections in paris, discontinued 2011 as tao wanted to focus on family life

>Tricot

originally designed by junya, passed to tao today. womenswear knits.

>Ganryu

Designed by Futomi Ganryu, references "pop", "youth", "avant garde".

Other than these and Junya's Junya Watanabe Comme des Garcons / Man, there were alot of unsuccessful or short lines / collaborations like Edited, JWCdGM Pink, CdGh+ Sport, Noir. I think alot of these might still exist in Japan but I've never seen them being sold outside of Japan.

Newest designer from the CdG umbrella is Kei Nonimiya

>> No.7749611

>>7749605

Kei's pieces were shown in showrooms a few seasons back last year with no tags or simply "Noir". Now she has her own line I think, Noir Kei Ninomiya

>> No.7749615

>>7749488
loads of people, including myself, own cdgh+

>> No.7749624

>>7749620

very

>> No.7749620

>>7749498
>>7749615
isn't that different from play

>> No.7749630

>>7749605

I always got the sense that MAN PINK was well-received; just was never really expected to become a huge success anyway. One of the great things about the CdG model is that they can experiment and even when something doesn't work, it doesn't mean it's a failure.

>> No.7749629

>>7749620
oh oops, i didn't read the word "play" for some reason. err, i've seen some people with the big love heart tshrits, that's it though

>> No.7749628

>>7749624
not what I said then

>> No.7749643

I hav the PLAY polo.

Yes, a polo.

Wore it to a party.

Nobody knew what it was, but it was a conversation piece.

No I never mentioned what exactly it was.

>> No.7749653

>>7749630

Yeah, I love how they never, ever stop experimenting and trying new things.

"I haven't yet made clothes that I have been totally satisfied with and maybe I never will. It is clear to me that designing creatively becomes harder. But I have to continue, I don't believe I have achieved all I can yet." - Rei

It's really fucking crazy when you think about it, the brand has come such a long way and tried so many things that now Rei feels like she has to make things that aren't even supposed to be clothes (SS14). Like holy shit just the idea of that is pretty crazy, this is why I love CdG so much. Just wish Menswear was more experimental like Womenswear

>> No.7750675

>>7749457
b8

>> No.7750688

>>7749556
at least post some of the clothes...

>> No.7752619

i love cdg
not 4 me but great collections

>> No.7752657
File: 238 KB, 940x705, 155492_1488840620555_4306013_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
7752657

>>7749240
I don't know why you hate so much on the PLAY line, lol. I have a few shirts from PLAY, but also have some from shirt and homme+. PLAY, imo, looks good on skinny asians and generally all women.

>> No.7752661

>>7752657
that looks awful
she literally looks like a cheap whore

>> No.7752667

>>7752661
Explain?

>> No.7752673

>>7752667
loud colors
simultaneously revealing and unflattering clothes
things a cheap whore would wear?

>> No.7752685

>>7752673
Oh I remembered, /fa/ only stands for monochromes. Sorry I don't have tunnel vision and actually examine everything with a little more insight other than the cliché "too many colors all i wear is black" mentality. What's unflattering about this outfit? Revealing? She's squatting for Christ's sake.

>> No.7752690

>>7752673
>unflattering clothes
wot

>> No.7752711

>>7752657
waitu piggu go home

>> No.7752725

>>7752673
it's a porn picture u fuckin loser

>> No.7752736

>>7752685
>Oh I remembered, /fa/ only stands for monochromes.
homie don't take that path I'm probs one of the most colorful contributors on the board

>What's unflattering about this outfit?
nothing particularly offensive
but I mean it's a plainly cut tee, ugly shoes, and a shapeless skirt cut more like a peplum

>She's squatting for Christ's sake.
Don't bring J into this. The skirt's short af squatting or not. Not really a problem in my book but she doesn't do anything interesting with it so it's not worth defending
she's literally just an average streetwalker with a nice body who's heard of CdG
don't see much thought behind the fit at all

>> No.7752740

>>7752725
tell that to this dumb bitch
>>7752685

you'd think this shit was obvious but in fact I am saving some poor girl from aspiring to look like trash

>> No.7752747

>>7752685
it's a porn picture u fuckin loser

>> No.7752753

>The skirt's short af squatting or not.
Isn't that the point of skirts? Even if it's cut too short, I think your idea of a cheap whore is different than mine. We can't do anything about that.
>shapeless skirt cut more like a peplum
Don't know how you deduced that from less than half of the picture, but okay.
>ugly shoes
This I agree on
>homie don't take that path I'm probs one of the most colorful contributors on the board
So you're telling me she wore loud colors because she put on neon shoes. If we took the shoe out of the equation, would you still say she's wearing loud colors? I mean there's nothing loud about a white tee and a floral patterened skirt on a summer's day.

>> No.7752774

>>7752753
both the red of the heart and the blue of the skirt are hypersaturated, or "bright" or "loud"

>I think your idea of a cheap whore is different than mine
hyperbole, brah
I wouldn't actually think she was a cheap whore if I saw her
just that she wanted me to think she was a cheap whore when I saw her

you're asking a bunch of questions that don't really amount to anything when answered
it's a shit fit
move on

>> No.7752786

>>7749240
I usually don't really like CDG especially the Comme de Fuckdown shit is so fucking tryhard. Not to mention, putting Miley Cyrus repping it in the picture make me hate it even more

>> No.7752800
File: 954 KB, 450x227, tumblr_m7at1zZUmJ1rqyo4yo1_500.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
7752800

>>7752786
the comme de fuckdown shit isnt even cdg fuccboii

>> No.7752807

>>7752800
lol that other guy is such an idiot

*high five*

>> No.7752814

Play is p damn lame but eh that's pretty much the point of it

other stuff is good
fragrances are nice
i respect rei
i like junya

only own one thing and i got it at a charity shop, it's a t-shirt that looks like it's made out of bus seat covers, it's from 97 or something

>> No.7752957

>>7752786
that shit is the lamest fucking shit ever tho i'd rather see someone in pyrex hba and fake yeezys than wearing a fucking comme des fuckdown hat or beanie

>> No.7753671

>>7752814
fragrances are NOT nice

>> No.7753687

>>7752657

I agree that much of the hate on /fa/ is just people being contrarian. You don't buy PLAY expecting it to be a shredded, deconstructed, zipper-covered whatever that you'd get from mainline. You buy it for basics and for simple sportswear things that you can just fold into any wardrobe. Complaining that PLAY is a watered down version of Homme + or something completely misses the point of what PLAY is supposed to be.

One of the great things about the CdG brand universe is that each brand does its own thing with its own rhyme and reason. There's no need to rank them or rate them because nobody in the CdG company thinks of their constellation of products like that anyway.

>> No.7753695

>>7753671

Fragrances are very much a take it or leave it proposition. You're either into the very aggressive, very non-traditional scent profiles that the company favors of you aren't. It's polarizing, but that's kind of the point: fragrances for people who don't like standard fragrances.

If anything, the fact that you're turned off by it is proof positive that the people making the fragrances know their customer and are producing scents specifically for that customer and no one else.

>> No.7753701

>>7753687
>You buy it for basics
>buying logo ridden basics
stop

>> No.7753706

>>7753695
I don't know, I hate the fragrances but really like CDGH+

>> No.7753710

>>7753701
This. PLAY basics have no point because there's nothing notable about them besides the branding, and the branding is just ugly and obnoxious.

>> No.7753720

There's nothing wrong with it.

>> No.7753725

>>7753701

Well, let's be honest that there's a lot of not-so-basic stuff in PLAY, too. The Matt Groening stuff, the Beatles/Apple stuff, etc. I meant basic in terms of construction and silhouette.

I can see how the logo can be a turn-off, but given that it's the only overtly branded product in the entire CdG world, I think it's safe to say they approach it differently. It's not a luxury symbol and its origin within Filip Pagowski's existing oeuvre (pre-dating PLAY) gives credence to the idea that it's not just branded for the sake of branding. Also, given how often they tweak the logo (blowing it up, obscuring it, multiplying it), it's much more interesting work than what most other brands ever choose to with their branding and identity.

>> No.7753739

>>7753725
>>7749499
this

>> No.7753806

>>7752774
>m-muh hypersaturation
>m-move on guys

>> No.7753819

>>7753687
you try so desperately hard to justify everything in the fashion world

obviously people have varying tastes but you're just a sucker

>> No.7753836

I honestly wouldn't mind Play if the heart was smaller or more subtle. I mean, the people who really give a shit about that are clothe aspies like us, some random person on the street wouldn't know the difference between the lines.

But to me it's screaming out "I can't afford the real lines so I'll buy the basic bitch entry line and hope to impress my basic bitch friends when I tell them that I'm wearing CDG."

>> No.7753832

>>7753739
>I meant basic in terms of construction and silhouette.
And? It doesn't matter because it's still too overbranded to be a legitimate basic at that point anymore. It's just a shitty graphic 'xyz' now.
Hating CDG for PLAY is stupid. Hating PLAY is not stupid.

>it's much more interesting work than what most other brands ever choose to with their branding and identity.
Are you for real? So many jap brands do this and do it better.

>> No.7753846

CDG mens has always been irrelevant to me aside from a couple of iconic pieces like their drop crotch shorts and wrinkled polyester jackets.

what people don't understand is that these arent independent companies, not everything you see is exactly what rei kawakubo or junya watanabe or the people you know from cdg have anything to do with whatsoever.

when rei started the line at least, it was intended to be the opposite of sexy. fashion has completely changed, and their diffusion lines are there simply to make them some money.

if you've never even seen anything pre-1990s, you dont deserve to talk about comme des garcons. period. im tired of everyone on /fa/ making themselves an expert when they only know fashion from instagram and online shopping

>> No.7753848
File: 860 KB, 1380x1518, CE_Tee_White_1_4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
7753848

>>7753832
>>7753836
>So many jap brands do this and do it better.
yep

i personally think they fucked themselves over by creating and sticking with an ugly mascot

>> No.7753851

>>7753836
a good chunk of CDG Play stuff has understated branding, but I agree that the branding can go overboard sometimes.

For me, branding can look good, but only if the logo is attractive to begin with. CDG Play, Supreme, and Rick Owens come to mind when I think of cool logos, although Ricks logo is never put on clothing.

>> No.7753872
File: 81 KB, 500x666, tumblr_m4qybekrbL1qdvtuwo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
7753872

>>7753848
ugly mascot? have you ever seen any of rei's work or inspirations?

cdg is not a "pretty" or conventional label.

>> No.7753891

>>7753872
By ugly, I don't mean not *pretty*. I mean having no aesthetic appeal at all.

>> No.7753896

>>7749240
i said it efore and i'll say it again
lines women are in charge of generally aren't done well

look at examples jil sander pre-and post raf, cdg vs yy. ann d.....vs anything not made in portugal her mainline is up agianst low end diffusion from the get go

>> No.7754266

>>7753851

It's embroidered on lining of most mainline outerwear.

>>7753848
>>7753832


Well, as I mentioned earlier, the logo is an outgrowth of Pagowski's work, so I think that's a bit of a moot point. I never said that it's "wrong" to hate on PLAY, I just think that a lot of it is people being contrary because they think that snobbery and taste are the same thing.

>>7753836

They literally just released a "small heart" program.

>> No.7754278

>>7753896

This would be great bait if you could wipe everyone's memory, even momentarily, of Phoebe Philo, Angela Missoni, Margaret Howell, Victoria Bartlett, Victoria Beckham, Jenna Lyons, Bouchra Jarrar...

Like those flash pen things from MIB or something?

>> No.7754287

>>7753896

Lol, shut up sieg, you fat sack of shit.

Opinion discarded.

>> No.7754299

>>7753896

I love you sieg but a lot of bitches are quite successful in fashion.

Rick Owens for example.

>> No.7754304
File: 5 KB, 190x137, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
7754304

>>7754299

0/10

>> No.7754301

>>7754299

Ba dun tss.

>> No.7754337

>>7754299
dayumm

tricky ricky just got sruli #recht

>> No.7754436

Wallets and fragrances are awesome. Couldn't care about anything else.

>> No.7754500

>>7754337

that was the most awkward thing ive ever read

>> No.7754527

>>7754278
>Phoebe Philo, Angela Missoni, Margaret Howell, Victoria Bartlett, Victoria Beckham, Jenna Lyons, Bouchra Jarrar

lol that's like saying white women are attractive, just look at rosie odenell, miley cyrus, andtalor swift!

>> No.7754539

>>7753896
>cdg vs yy

haha what? yohji almost went bankrupt and had to sell his name to adidas

>> No.7754557

>>7754539
at least he didn't sell out to converse

>> No.7754586

>>7754557
cdg makes twice what yohji does, i havent heard anything about them doing bad financially