Watch Thread

[Anonymous No.7697976]

So I said I’d make a post about fixing this thing and here it is. Now I get to flex my autism for you guys.

Old Posts:
http://fuuka.warosu.org/fa/thread/S7305589#p7308553
http://fuuka.warosu.org/fa/thread/S7357405
http://fuuka.warosu.org/fa/thread/S7373392#p7376513
http://fuuka.warosu.org/fa/thread/S7373392#p7376568
http://fuuka.warosu.org/fa/thread/S7373392#p7376627

Also: welcome, /g/eeks and /diy/nosaurs.

[Anonymous No.7697987]

First Impressions:
I’ve only held a genuine Omega once and it wasn’t the same model so I have little for comparison. I’ll be trying to review things impartially. If you bothered to take a look at the links, the watch is fairly accurately described by the site that sold it. The only thing I’d have doubts about is the water-resistance.

Also, if it isn't already clear, this is a replica Omega.

[Anonymous No.7697993]

The watch uses the “Asian 21-jewel movement” aka DG2813/NN2813 aka Mingzhu. It’s a Miyota 8215 clone with an added hack function. As a clone of the Miyota, it also has indirect center seconds with potential for stutter, detailed here (bottom):
http://people.timezone.com/library/horologium/horologium631670098360080701
Some manufacturers prefer the direct center seconds for this very reason. A comparison between the Miyota and its various clones and relatives can be found here:
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/miyota-8215-similar-clone-movements-compared-537075.html
The DG2813 is obviously very different from the movement inside a genuine Omega. It suffices to say that the anyone with a passing familiarity with the inside of a watch will recognize this as fake.

[Anonymous No.7698031]

Before I go any further, bear in mind that this is a used replica watch. I'm fairly certain the previous owner opened it before it got to me.

The watch was not running on arrival. The original owner had it for < 2years before it began exhibiting problems. I assume it was working fine until that time. As noted, the minute hand is loose on the canon pinion, so hand alignment with the hour hand is off. The seconds hand appears to be bent up at an angle, maybe touching the glass. This could be what’s preventing the watch from running. There also appears to be some kind of residue on the minute hand. It could be oil from human skin.

[Anonymous No.7698044]

When the crown is unscrewed, turning it in the first position, which should wind the watch, instead, moves the hands. This leads me to believe that there is an issue with the keyless works, detailed here:
http://people.timezone.com/library/horologium/horologium0038

There’s some dust on the dial and a few fibers of unknown material. The owner didn’t like the logo, printed details, the date wheel, or the caseback. I can’t comment on all of that but I will say that every replica has its tells and finding all of them for a single replica is a lot of work. In the short time that I researched, the 4 that stuck out to me are the logo and the hour markers. When Omega applies the word OMEGA to their dials, the letters are strung together in the center of each letter. This replica strings them together at the bottom. The sides of the two 12 o’clock markers that face each other should be parallel. The replica manufacturer appears to have reused the same hour markers for the 12 o’clock marker. The hour markers themselves appear to be a bit short. The seconds hand is too. Lastly, the caseback is solid, when it should be display, in order to show the co-axial movement. But, since this obviously doesn’t have that, the manufacturer opted for solid. The owner also described the dial as “easy to scratch, like a sticker”. Under my loupe, I don’t see any scratches from the loose minute hand yet, but if everything is restored properly, there won’t be any reason for the dial to be scratched.

[Anonymous No.7698047]

Here's something for reference.

[Anonymous No.7698053]

shitty canal st. rep, you can get much higher quality reps than this.

the dial has happy feet, is it even supposed to have that on this model?

[Anonymous No.7698059]

BUY PRECISTA WATCHES

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

[Anonymous No.7698061]

lol nigga i tell time on my fone why would i get a watch? unless im hella rich i would get the most expensive watch i can get just to look cool

[Anonymous No.7698069]

Here ends all the prepared text.

I've since finished repairing this watch but I'll get to that later.

If memory serves me, the laser etching on the back of the bracelet was just a tad misaligned. I'd imagine Omega wouldn't let one of their bracelets leave the factory if the etching was very close to running perfectly parallel to the deployant part of the bracelet.

[Anonymous No.7698082]

>>7697976
My non-fa friend is obsessed with the Seamaster... I think 'cause Bond wore it.

[Anonymous No.7698083]

>>7698061
This is true. Actually, nowadays, only niggers wear watches. Be a white man and use a phone.

[Anonymous No.7698088]

As I said, it's subtle, but it does say "Seanaster". Tells aside, the bracelet is very nice.

A picture of the genuine in a second.

[Anonymous No.7698098]

Though there are differences in picture quality and so forth to take into account, the quality of the etching is quite a bit a cleaner on the genuine.

[Anonymous No.7698132]

thoughts on longines and cartier? looking for a dress watch

[Anonymous No.7698138]

>>7698132
>longines and cartier
autism and niggerdom

[Anonymous No.7698177]

The dial side isn't very nice to look at but it's still functional. One of the screws had a bit of rust on it for whatever reason.

You'll also notice that there appears to be a whole other gear/wheel missing and multiple parts that have no apparent purpose. I'm pretty sure that's because this movement was originally the DG2803, which is a day-date movement. The assembler may have ran out of the DG2813 and simply removed the day wheel.

[Anonymous No.7698189]

>>7698177
that's actually pretty hilarious

[Anonymous No.7698247]

I didn't take pictures on the day of the repair but this will do. This is the DG4813 which is of the same design, just thinner.

As I expected, the problem was in the keyless works. The clutch lever (green oval) was not resting on the clutch. Instead, it was where the red oval is; the clutch had slipped out from under the clutch lever. The clutch lever is under tension and pushes the clutch towards the center of the watch, in the direction of the red arrow. This forces the watch into its time-setting mode, which explains why the hands were moving when I tried to wind the watch. Additionally, because this watch hacks (i.e. the watch stops when you try to set the time), the hack lever (not pictured here; it also rests on the clutch but on the interior of the movement) arrested the wheel train and the watch could not run.

The blurry screw in the red circle was missing for whatever reason and it may have been that, because this screw was missing, the clutch lever was more loose than it should have been, allowing the clutch to slip out from under it.

[Anonymous No.7698355]

After putting things back where they should have been and replacing the missing screw, the watch ran fine.

As is commonly reported with these watches, nothing was oiled. So I oiled it, though, I don't use the proper tools to oil and it's said that over-oiling does more harm than good.

I was also a bit annoyed with myself while doing this because I lost a spring within the movement. It was the spring that gave the clutch lever its tension. But I replaced it with a modified staple. Deal with it.

I've since gifted the watch to a friend.

Final comments:
My expectations for this thing were really low. I've dealt with Chinese watches from ebay before, many of which are (I suspect) the older, low quality replicas, just rebranded, that can no longer sell as the industry has improved. That said and taking into account the various faults I found, this isn't a terrible watch. The case is solid, the bracelet is nice, and the movement ran for 2 years.
>Everything is there.
Granted, an issue came up after those 2 years, but it was easily solvable.
However, at 72 USD, there are similar-looking options of better quality from more reputable dealers for less money.

[Anonymous No.7698681]

>Should i cop this Seiko 5 from eBay for $70 w/ shipping?
No manufacturer warranty, just 15 day return.
Do i really need mfg warranty on a watch that's known to be really reliable?

[Achilles !!usY/JFe7UNl No.7698861]

>>7698681
http://www.amazon.com/Seiko-SNK809-Automatic-Watch-Canvas/dp/B002SSUQFG
$50
Amazon warranty
Now send me your sister for my services

[Anonymous No.7698983]

>>7698861
I've tried that one but it doesn't ship to canuckistan and there's no way to contact the shipper to make an exception.
The eBay one is $55 USD, $60 Canadian, plus $9 shipping.

[Achilles !!usY/JFe7UNl No.7699005]

>>7698983
http://www.longislandwatch.com/Seiko_SNK809_SNK809K2_Watch_p/snk809k2.htm
This place is legit.
Not sure about shipping to Canada.
Try ashford or jomashop if that doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.7699230]

>>7699005
Thanks! I bought it from jomashop same price as eBay but 3 year warranty

[Achilles !!usY/JFe7UNl No.7699327]

>>7699230
My pleasure.

[Anonymous No.7701317]

Since this is a watch thread,I'm hoping for some help. I got Casio MTP1306 for a birthday gift. It's not too bad as a beater watch but I'd like to change the metal bracelet with a rubber one. But the problem is that it seems that the bracelet can't be changed.

pic related it's the watch but keep in mind that it appears that there is no spring inside.

[Anonymous No.7701324]

>>7698983
that watch seems sweet but the hands are kinda off.

[Anonymous No.7701367]

>>7701324
naw, they're fine.

[Anonymous No.7701617]

>>7701317
bump for this,would really appreciate help

[Helpful Trip !152Xia.1wk No.7701686]

>>7701617
casio band's can't be changed, they have ultrasonically welded bars not springs on them

thats why they're so cheap...best option is to buy a new watch

like this amazing timex

http://www.ebay.com/itm/181313459094?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

[Anonymous No.7701719]

>>7701686
Any source on that info? Cause if true,god damn those money grabbing assholes. I thought of replacing the original band with brown leather.

[Anonymous No.7701726]

>>7701686
nice try,951socal2012

[Anonymous No.7701990]

>>7697976
nice thread OP, very informative

does anyone have a site that sells really good replicas for around 100USD?

[Anonymous No.7702172]

OP here.

>>7701686
>helpful trip
Right...

>>7701317
>>7701719
It appears the the lugs (the part where the bracelet is attached)are drilled through. You should be able to push a large needle or paper clip through one side to push out the bar that holds the bracelet to the lugs. The underside of the watch may have small arrows to indicate in which direction you should push, but I can't really say without seeing more.

This video is what I'm talking about, though obviously, your watch is not the F91W.

You'll also probably have to modify any strap you put it on because its bracelet is integrated and its lugs seem rather narrow.

>>7701990
Thanks.
If you check the sticky, I also wrote the portion on replicas in the section on watches. But as I said, unless you're looking for a design or function that is pretty exclusive (unlikely, as everything is copied, even in legitimate markets), I wouldn't recommend it. I was interested in getting a replica Rolex Daytona for a while mainly because getting an automatic chronograph for under $200 is next to impossible by legitimate channels, but I've since decided that I should be spending $200 on a watch when I'm still in school and don't even have a source of disposable income.

[Anonymous No.7702200]

>>7698983
>>7698681

SNK 80_ series is most excellent. They however have become more popular and thus risen in price in the last few years, I bought this at 35usd two years ago, same model is now 66 on Amazon.

[Anonymous No.7702208]

>>7702200
a bad picture of some of the collection:

1985 Swatch, 1953 Longines 19A Automatic, Seiko SNK-805, 1936 Bulova Hand Wind. The Bulova is out for service as we speak having a new crystal put in and the movement lubricated.

[Anonymous No.7702248]

>>7702172
Shit, I forgot to link the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbc32pPhHBw

[Anonymous No.7702256]

>>7702172
Thanks for the response man but I know all that. I have a few watches and I change straps regularly. It's just that it seems that there is no spring bar in case of this watch. Any other suggestions?

[Anonymous No.7702268]

>>7701990
Don't buy replicas. I used to do that but after I got a real watch I realized there is a huuuge difference in quality. You should try searching for "homage" watches from real brands (for example there are a lot of seikos that are basically like rolex but you get a great brand). With replicas it's toss them into trash after a malfunction.

[Anonymous No.7702302]

>>7702256
It may not have a *spring* bar, but it must have some kind of bar to hold the bracelet on. It could be screw-in or friction fit. I can't really say anything else without seeing a picture of the back, you fool.

(´･ω･`)

[Anonymous No.7702323]

>>7702302
Dude,I wasn't trying to be a dick I was just saving you time. I doubt it's a screw in so that leaves friction fit. How do you remove those?

[Anonymous No.7702516]

>>7702323
Use the force.

[Anonymous No.7702667]

I need a 17mm black leather band with deployment clasp
inb4google
I ask because I'd like to know from personal experience on this board, some of the more reputable sellers with good inexpensive product on ebay

[Anonymous No.7702696]

>>7702516
now who's the dick?


nice watch btw

[Anonymous No.7703392]

>>7703389
Nato strap is fucking pleb, so you are.

[Anonymous No.7703389]

What NATO strap should I get for pic?

>>7702516
That's sick. Would look great with the negative display mod.

[Anonymous No.7703411]

>>7703392
Okay, thanks for the reply.

[Anonymous No.7703454]

>>7701686
Fuck you, Sieg. I'm not buying your shitty watch.

[Anonymous No.7703467]

>>7703392

edgy, just leave

[Anonymous No.7703475]

My daily watch has been an Orient Eminence which is in the middle of casual and dress for me. It's a bit too dressy for yard work and jogging so I just bought a GWM5610-1. Did I do good or are G-Shocks impossibly un-/fa/?

[Anonymous No.7703493]

>>7703475
The square case G-Shocks are the only good looking ones in the G-Shock family. That includes anything in the DW-5600 range. You did good with that. I wear mine for watersports, climbing, hiking, etc. If I don't want to scratch up my Seiko Land Monster, I wear my Casio DW5600.

[Anonymous No.7703504]

>>7703475
Idk, I can't help but lust after this one myself. It probably won't even look good, but still.

[Anonymous No.7703507]

>>7703493
It's also one of the smallest ones I could find. I suffer from bitch wrists so this is pretty much my size limit before it becomes silly. It's beyond me how anyone can want to swear one with a case diameter 50+. And I agree with you that the oval and circle case ones look weird.

[Anonymous No.7703537]

>>7703507
>I suffer from bitch wrists so this is pretty much my size limit before it becomes silly.
How big are your wrists? Mine are a tad bit over 6.5 inches. With wrists like mine, the ideal range of case diameter is 36 to 42mm, with 40mm being the perfect balance.

Protip: With some watches, the case will wear smaller. The only way you can determine this is by trying on the watch, though. I bought myself the aforementioned Seiko Black Monster after I tried the thing on. It fit well.

[Anonymous No.7703581]

Casio Casio W-800HG-9AVEF

Had this for about eight months, never take it off. It has served me brilliantly.

Really like the G Shocks in this thread though, never thought a G Shock could look decent before.

[Anonymous No.7704179]

>>7703581
Yeah they're cool. Really tempted to get pic related. I just love how desert it looks. I need to stop buying watches though.

[Anonymous No.7705624]

>>7703389
>Would look great with the negative display mod.

[Anonymous No.7706330]

The only good seiko is a moded seiko*

>*statement not applicable to GS series

[Anonymous No.7706331]

>>7705624
unnecessary

[Anonymous No.7706446]

>>7703504
the black and white rose gold ga110 looks good imo. The other ga110 colour combinations look like shit though

[Anonymous No.7706794]

>>7706446
Yeah, agreed. The black one is nice too, a little more subdued than the white one with darker tops. I might just try both

[Anonymous No.7707314]

>>7705624
ooft

Oh yes

[Anonymous No.7707381]

>>7706330
Watch modding is cool but the parts are really expensive. You could get a new watch for the same price.

[Anonymous No.7707562]

>>7698059
I don't know why but I lold chokingly at this

[Anonymous No.7707573]

Decent timepieces don't go down in value, my parents bought me this Tag for me 18th, I can sell it for more than they paid now even though it's used, just save up and buy a timepiece for life.

[Anonymous No.7707597]

>>7707573
I wish I had rich parents =(

[Anonymous No.7707623]

>>7707381
Yeah, never seemed worth it for me, as I'd rather just buy a nicer watch rather than mod a lesser one.

[Anonymous No.7707657]

>>7703389

Is the second hand supposed to stop when you pull the crown all the way out? Because mine doesn't, and I think it's a bit annoying.

[Anonymous No.7707667]

>>7707573
out of curiousity, do you ever actually use the chrono function?

[Anonymous No.7707711]

>>7707667
Rarely, most of the time when I need a stopwatch I just use my phone.

[Anonymous No.7707788]

>>7705624
neg displays never look good irl, only pictures.
they're harder to read in comparison to the usual ones.

[Anonymous No.7708068]

>>7707788
It looks just as good as that picture because I have filled the watch with oil to increase clarity. Only at extreme angles is the display a problem.

[Anonymous No.7708106]

>>7707657
No, it's non-hacking (the second hand doesn't stop when you pull out the crown). The movement also can't be hand wound like some automatic movements. It's what you sacrifice for the price.

[Anonymous No.7708284]

>>7708068
>I have filled the watch with oil to increase clarity.
wat

[Anonymous No.7708315]

>>7708284
Not him, but;

http://www.thewatchsite.com/34-watchmaking-tinkering/8273-superlative-oil-filled-f-91wthe-making-superlative-oil-filled-casio-f-91-a.html

[Anonymous No.7708697]

Bump

[Anonymous No.7708697,10]

b0ris # is a ugly tranny loving pedophile m@ne disc0rd faggot.

he should kill himself or be killed in prison.

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