/fa/ - Fashion

[CH∆RL∆T∆N !!331ccN+/IXa No.7067395]

Chelsea boots, Yay or Nay? Black or brown?

[Anonymous No.7067446]

It's "yea", and yea.

[Anonymous No.7067461]

I kinda like them but only in black.

[uuuuhhhh No.7067474]

>tfw can get RM Williams heavily discounted whenever I want

[CH∆RL∆T∆N !!331ccN+/IXa No.7067493]

>>7067474
tell me your secrets
>>7067461
im tied between buying black or brown. Im usually a brown leather guy, but maybe black is the way to go.

[Anonymous No.7067506]

>>7067493
Black chelseas look so slick m8. Do it!

[Anonymous No.7067514]

>>7067493
he works there cuz he's a retail pleb

[uuuuhhhh No.7067524]

>>7067493
>>7067514
no my mum gets a discount on them b/c her work uses RM Williams as their uniform provider

[CH∆RL∆T∆N !!331ccN+/IXa No.7067546]

>>7067506
thx fo the motivation m8!

>>7067524
>rekt?

anybody got pics of men with chelsea boots and stufff?

[Anonymous No.7067547]

Ive just copped some dark brown frank wright chelseas. I dont really like black shoes/boots reminds me too much of a school uniform

[Anonymous No.7067568]

>>7067524
hook a brother up

[Anonymous No.7067734]

not traditional chelseas but i got two pairs of paul smith york, these diors, gonna get some some brown saint laurent boots next

[Anonymous No.7067746]

I'm 6'2 and thin, I had to get chelseas in sz 13 for my big ass feet and they look horrible. Can't have niggas clownin me about my clown shoes.

[Anonymous No.7067751]

>>7067746
i'm 6'2 and size 12, doesn't look big on me as the rest of my body is in proportion

[Anonymous No.7067781]

>>7067734
What's in the white bottle?

[droak No.7067791]

yay, I think both brown and black looks good

go for it op, chelseas are really comfortable and good looking.

[Anonymous No.7067798]

>>7067781
cleaner/conditioner

[Anonymous No.7067910]

Autism shoes.

[Anonymous No.7067921]

>>7067910
edgy :)

[Anonymous No.7067931]

>>7067921
;)

[Anonymous No.7067934]

>>7067474
>Premium grade yearling leather upper taken from animals of approximately 1 year in age, when the very best smooth, soft and durable grade of leather is obtained.
Yeah, no thanks...

[Mango !!qT11xYTVwQG No.7067959]

yes

[Anonymous No.7067969]

>>7067934
are you a vegan or something?

[Anonymous No.7068085]

>>7067395
>black or brown?

kinda like these, colour looks brighter IRL tho, way better imho

[Anonymous No.7068800]

>>7067934
Are you some kind of faggot?
That's good leather right there.

[Anonymous No.7068988]

>>7067969
>>7068800
not him but no reason to hate just because he has different values than you. no reason for him to be a faggot and announce his dislike either, though.

[Anonymous No.7069417]

Yea to the max dude, love chelsea boots, I have black personally but brown could be more versatile.

[Anonymous No.7069461]

Boots like this... are on the same level as fedoras and trench coats.

I'm generally not too judgmental, but these boots are among the type of clothing that would stop me from befriending you.

[Anonymous No.7069614]

>>7069461
sorry you can't pull it off :(

[poet !!ZKnqTt5WCG6 No.7069626]

>>7069461
Chelsea boots are incredibly easy to pull off.

[Anonymous No.7072132]

>>7069461
I've never encountered this view. Not even on here.

I don't even see a possible connection between the three.

[Anonymous No.7072136]

>>7068988
Why not? He openly posted his opinion on leather usage, he'll cop shit for it. Fair enough.

[uuuuhhhh No.7072161]

>>7067934
ur a drongo

[Anonymous No.7072171]

Anyone have some recommendations for brands? Fit pics?

[Anonymous No.7072179]

>>7067959
Those boots don't really work with just a T-shirt. Chelsea's are dressy, while T-shirts are ultra casual. They aren't a good match. Wear a jacket at least

[cosmicbutts !!qblBZSgYzBX No.7072182]

>>7072179

iirc they're APC forest boots

i'd venture the sole makes them more casual

[Anonymous No.7072184]

>>7072179
A buttoned shirt would work better with that fit, to be honest.
Unless you were an Australian labourer and were wearing scuffed to shit chelsea work boots. But then you'd have to wear a dayglo vest too.

[Anonymous No.7072210]

>>7072171
Chelsea's are available from any decent shoemaker, and too many bad makers too.

Each of the good english shoemakers have chelseas: trickers, C&J, even Loake.

Australians still make one decent thing and that's RM Williams chelseas.
Depending on the exchange rate, perhaps they'll be the best bang for the buck, as it were. They're not cheap, but they're pretty damn good considering the price compared to the English makes.

Pic of some over polished ones.

[Anonymous No.7072233]

What do you call the loops on chelsea booths? Do they have a name?

[Anonymous No.7072239]

>>7072233
pull tabs

[Anonymous No.7072244]

>>7072233
I read once of some idiot that didn't like the look of them and then cut them off.
Then he went online to complain.

Retard.

[Anonymous No.7072263]

>>7072244
Personally I don't like how RM Williams plaster their brand all over them, so I kind of get him.

[Anonymous No.7072280]

>>7072263
That is true: on each tab there's the brand name and the address so you know where to send them for a resole.

It's not particularly noticeable, since they're usually covered by pants anyway, and only country girls and labourers wear these kinds of boots with shorts.

What I like about many other chelsea makers is that they have just one tab at the back (the plaster their brand on that one tab too). I'm unconvinced that two tabs are really necessary.

[Anonymous No.7072307]

>>7072280
>What I like about many other chelsea makers is that they have just one tab at the back (the plaster their brand on that one tab too). I'm unconvinced that two tabs are really necessary.
Absolutely.

[Anonymous No.7072403]

>>7067791
should I cop cuban heels or just normal chelsea boots like pic related?

I'm 6'3" btw so it's nothing to do with height insecurity

[Anonymous No.7072408]

>>7072403
Get normal ones, but the one in your pic has too many stitches.

[Anonymous No.7072426]

>>7069461
>implying trenchcoats are necessarily bad
stop being an insecure bitch

[Anonymous No.7072433]

>>7072408
it's hard to be a vegan in the fashion world

I'll just cop some second hand ones off ebay or check out my local opshops

[Anonymous No.7072487]

>>7072403
Looking at the rm's catalog there's a kind of heel that's inbetween cuban and flat called the block heal.

I don't think I could ever go full cuban, but the block heal is perhaps doable as it's just not as high. Historically it actually had a use as all these boots would've been blocks originally so that the boot locked in securely into a stirrup.

[Anonymous No.7072490]

>>7072487
Their cubans to compare.
Too effeminate for my tastes, but I know others can pull it off.

[Anonymous No.7072504]

can manlets pull off chelsea boots? pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.7072510]

>>7072433
>vegan
>even buying it second hand
m8t get your head in the game. but yeah, you're right, its pretty fucking hard. even things that just have leather accents

[Anonymous No.7072525]

>>7072504
Just don't wear >>7072490 and you'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.7072577]

>>7072504

if you're a manlet, just don't wear anything with huge heels and soles otherwise it'll look like you're trying too hard to look taller.

>>7072487
>>7072490

don't cop something like this

[Anonymous No.7072584]

>>7072426
>posts picture of mythical rock 'n' roll figure wearing one
>thinks that proves his point

[Anonymous No.7072607]

Post more of fits with chelea boots, I need inspo

[Anonymous No.7072645]

>>7072510
>m8t get your head in the game.
well I see no problem buying things second hand, the industry doesn't profit, if I get it from vinnies my money goes to charity and it means that it won't go to waste.

>>7072487
looks kinda gross, not a fan of rm williams anyway, I don't know anyone who wears them who isn't originally from the country.

[Anonymous No.7072646]

Do you guys have any advice for getting deep scuffs out of these? The toe boxes on mine are in pretty bad shape, and I'd like to get them looking nice enough to wear with a suit.

Also, so many people at my uni (UQ) wear RM Williams during the winter. My guess is college kids from cattle stations...

[Anonymous No.7072660]

>>7072584
allow me to extend your logical process

>posts picture of model wearing one
>thinks that proves his point

>posts picture of a trip wearing one
>thinks that proves his point

>posts picture of someone wearing one
>thinks that proves his point

[Anonymous No.7072693]

I used to have a pair of suede chelseas (well I still do, they're just wrecked).

They look best in brown, don't worry about black

[Anonymous No.7072712]

>>7067791
wow a pic of the beatles where they all look good

[Anonymous No.7072723]

>>7072504
>dat thigh gap

[Anonymous No.7072758]

>>7072646
>Also, so many people at my uni (UQ) wear RM Williams during the winter. My guess is college kids from cattle stations...
>>7072645
>I don't know anyone who wears them who isn't originally from the country.

It's true that they have the country connotations, however there is another group that wears them and that's urban old money types - usually own a "hobby farm" or some such bullshit.

They are, after all, pretty well made shoes and probably the only decent thing you can buy in Australia anymore.

>nothing but Florsheims everywhere

[Anonymous No.7072759]

>>7072280
>>7072307
If you use both tabs to pull on the boot, the side elastics lives are prolonged. You can (obviously) have one, but that's the reason RM does it.

[Anonymous No.7072766]

>>7072758
And Aquila
lel

>shoes4wogs

[Anonymous No.7072763]

>>7072607
Will post some after I finish this essay.

[Anonymous No.7072771]

>>7072758
I went to a public school in the city. My girlfriend went to a private school out in the country.

She's bought me a pair of RM williams boots and is always buying me stuff from Rodd & Gunn, Ralph Lauren, etc. I think she's trying to turn me into someone that looks like a rugby-playing private school old boy from the country.

[Anonymous No.7072773]

>>7072771
Implying that's a bad thing

[Anonymous No.7072784]

>>7072763
thank you based anon please deliver

[Anonymous No.7072812]

>>7072771
I went to a private out in the country (well, sort of). And it was the old money farmers (those squatter families) kids that wore RM's. They were really proud of them too, and would show the off to each other. A friend of mine had a beat up pair of the buckle stockman's in black kangaroo. He was mighty proud of them, and all the other bumpkins fawned - in their own way.

The city kids wore the usual junk (cept for the few "hobby farmers/fake bumpkin" types I mentioned).

Looking back at it, I can't help but think the farmer kids had it right. Sure beats the made in chinois nikes, NB's and all that other crap the rest of us had, despite all the spoiling and trustfunds etc.

[Anonymous No.7072831]

>>7072759
I see. It looks bad though, but of course, no one can see it when you're actually wearing the boot.

[Anonymous No.7072844]

>>7072831
Unless you tuck it in/have it bunched up above the boot/roll your jeans..

[x No.7072900]

>>7072784
With my lounging around the house clothes.
More coming.
Black veal craftsman, 9H.

[Anonymous No.7072918]

Another Australian company that's a less expensive alternative to the RM's is Baxter.

They are wholecuts too, so join that club of relative rarity in the Chelsea making world.

about 100 bucks less than RM's.

The last perhaps isn't as attractive as their more well known cousin, but they're still made in australia, wholecut chelseas. The leather is of a different quality too. Not as fine, but good enough for a casual boot.

[Anonymous No.7072930]

>>7072900
How have your veals held up?
I've beat the shit out of my yearlings so I'd probably not trust myself with the nicer, softer veals.
Perhaps as a dress boot only.

[Anonymous No.7072933]

>>7072900

That shirts too small for you, bro.

[x No.7072949]

>>7072930
Yeah really well actually. I've worn mine regularly for a year incl. in snow and they've shown a few scratches but otherwise really well. And I barely care for them. Maybe twice I condition them with regulation leather conditioner.
>>7072933
Shh, I only wear it when bumming at home.

With the jeans over the boots.

[Anonymous No.7072955]

>>7072933
>>7072900
way too small, like 5 inches too short

[Anonymous No.7072960]

>>7072949
How about with some black jeans

[Anonymous No.7072965]

>>7072918
Here's my Baxter's Henry Baxter's next to my RM's "Comfort" Craftsman in walnut and chestnut respectively.

I've worn the RM's to shit over the past couple of years. Baxters haven't been worn as often. Still fond of them both.

The B's were as I said cheaper, and that's reflected in what you get. It's not bad, it's just not to the same standard as the RMs.

I prefer the browns to the blacks, though these have been darkened a little more via the use of saddle dressing and conditioner.

I have a black pair of craftsmans but I don't wear those casually. Just don't have a fit that they go with.

[Anonymous No.7072975]

Here's my Baxter's Henry Baxter's next to my RM's "Comfort" Craftsman in walnut and chestnut respectively.

I've worn the RM's to shit over the past couple of years. Baxters haven't been worn as often. Still fond of them both.

The B's were as I said cheaper, and that's reflected in what you get. It's not bad, it's just not to the same standard as the RMs.

I prefer the browns to the blacks, though these have been darkened a little more via the use of saddle dressing and conditioner.

I have a black pair of craftsmans but I don't wear those casually. Just don't have a fit that they go with.

[x No.7073001]

>>7072960
Coming.
Dejour Raws tucked in (+staxx)

[Anonymous No.7073012]

>>7072949
>Yeah really well actually. I've worn mine regularly for a year incl. in snow and they've shown a few scratches but otherwise really well. And I barely care for them. Maybe twice I condition them with regulation leather conditioner.
Hmm
Perhaps all that talk of their relative fragility really is just that, talk.

I'm thinking about a black pair for more formal get ups. Not sure though, as the yearlings are fine enough for my tastes and purposes (at the moment)

[x No.7073026]

>>7073012
Yeah, I think that with the relativity of yearling > kangaroo > veal there is hardly any difference, if any at all.

[Anonymous No.7073023]

>>7073001
Nice.
Have you ever considered the round toe Turnout model?

[Anonymous No.7073036]

>>7073023
I think chisel toed chelseas are more sophisticated.

[x No.7073042]

>>7073023
I've been thinking about it. I might get a MTO with round toe much like the styleforum special from their RM Williams thread in chesnut for a brown dress boot/shoe.

[x No.7073050]

>>7073042
thanks moot for pic swapping.

[Anonymous No.7073057]

>>7073042
>styleforum special
It'd work well for you methinks.
Too sleek for my liking.

[Anonymous No.7073058]

>>7073026
w2c jeans

[Anonymous No.7073060]

>>7072975
Dude those look amazing. Thanks for posting

[x No.7073092]

>>7073058
Dejour Jeans on brunswick. $53 with free alterations if needed. They're super good, copped em about 2 weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.7073102]

>>7072504
she looks so easy to knock over.

[Anonymous No.7073103]

>>7073050
I think it'll look much better without the blazer

[Anonymous No.7073104]

>>7073092
right but your slims are in the colour of a diarrhea

[x No.7073140]

>>7073103
Mmk thanks. I was just grabbing various pieces of outerwear but I'll keep it in mind.
>>7073104
Yeah, they're from cotton on for $10. They're a bit more sandy in person, but I don't mind the colour.

For my lunarcaww buds.

[Anonymous No.7073151]

>>7072487
>>7072577
>>7072525
>>7072490
i actually think if you got the "heroinchic/punk/rock/artist/musician"-look, are not a manlet and wear mostly black that boot is not even that hard to pull off.
although the rm williams is not that good looking, some classic beatle boot from the uk would be much better.
like iggy pop said once, the only shoes he had at the beginning were some used beatle boots.
bob dylan rocked that shit too - yeah i know i'm not bob dylan.
but if you got the aesthetics, go for it, otherwise you will look worse than a fedora wearing neckbeard

[Anonymous No.7073152]

>>7073140
>cuffed chinos

[x No.7073163]

>>7073152
Just because. I think it looks alright, but I rarely wear 'em - I tend to stick to jeans.

Final pic for tonight. Lunarcore again.

[Anonymous No.7073171]

>>7073163
Thats the worst fit you've posted

[Anonymous No.7073169]

>>7069461
You're an idiot, they've been a staple in heroin chic fashion, and with musicians and artists for years.

[Anonymous No.7073174]

>>7073151
not that "x" looks bad, but i think most of the wardrobe posted here just doesn't match the chelseas - especially not the black ones.
>>7073050
unbutton the top button and with a black blazer or something else i would wear that
but tbh this looks like shit the way you wear it. there would be so much potential just by changing minimal things and you ruined it...
not to be mean, more constructive

[Anonymous No.7073188]

Does anyone fuck with Cole Haan chelseas?

Pic related.

[x No.7073183]

>>7073171
Okee. I'll do better next time.
>>7073174
Nah that's fine, criticism is much appreciated. If the thread's still around tomorrow I'll post some more.

[Anonymous No.7073254]

>>7072210
are those your cops?

[Anonymous No.7073283]

>>7073254
I wish, if only for the centre reddish one; Claret was a seasonal colour they put out a few years ago. I missed it by a few months. Fuck.

I've got a black pair like on the left, and am getting a tan pair like on the far right soon - the dark browns I've got are getting stale and it'll be summer soon. Those are Whiskey's, I'm going for the Tanbarks in 'roo leather.

I don't and will not parade gloss shine them like that guy has though.

[Anonymous No.7073291]

>>7073188
The overall shape's quite nice IMO. Don't like how fat the side elastics are though. But I think one could do better for $250, especially considering none of CH's shoes are made in the US anymore.

[Anonymous No.7073302]

>>7073163
>>7073140
>>7073092
>>7073050
>>7073026
>>7073001
>>7072949
>>7072900
Thanks for the fits anon. Wear them boots well!

[Anonymous No.7073306]

In brown they have a better look if they're worn down and kinda loose around the elastic. But only for a casual look.

[Anonymous No.7073315]

>>7073291
What would you recommend?

[Anonymous No.7073355]

>>7073315
Well, if you're fond of that CH look Allan Edmonds make a chelsea similar to it. I think there are other colors too. On sale at the moment so are around the same price.

At least with these I know what sort of quality to expect (US made), as who knows where CH have their shoes made after nike was done with them.

To be honest looking at the rm williams in this thread I'd be inclined to recommend those. There's something about that whole cut style. Still, they cost more, and the english makers cost even more.

[Anonymous No.7073357]

>>7073355
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.7073364]

>>7073315
Depends on how much you want to spend, and where in the world you are m8.

[Anonymous No.7073418]

Like the look of these crockett and joneses but they're nearly double the price of these
>>7072210
>>7072900
And way more than these >>7072918
etc.
And they're not even wholecut. Really though, does that even matter so much? I get that it's a more difficult way to make shoes and that most makes have stopped doing it to save money, but they're C&J's. That's got to equalize things as far as quality, right? Double the price but are they double the shoe? Have to go for a fitting I guess.

[Movie Theater Lad !/RUz7lnpiY No.7073695]

For me, Chelsea boots only really work in black due to how sleek they are.

[Anonymous No.7073723]

>>7073695
Dark brown or black. I don't know about anything lighter like tan or the ones on the right here
>>7072210
Just part of my general conservatism I suppose. I wouldn't wear lighter any kind of leather shoe.

[Anonymous No.7074038]

w2c rm williams in europe?

[Anonymous No.7074079]

>>7074038
Depends where in europe you are.
Most folks have sized themselves in a store if they can find one, then just order from australia, where it's still cheaper after customs taxes etc.
Where are you located?

[Anonymous No.7074102]

>>7074079
>where it's still cheaper after customs taxes etc.
Seriously?

>Where are you located?
Denmark. The map of stockists only shows some in the UK.

[Anonymous No.7074109]

>>7074102
Check the never-ending thread on the styleforum. There are some aussie sellers that are well aware of the very high customs charges and could perhaps, if asked nicely, be convinced to mark the package down ("used" "less than 100AUD" etc). I've heard it helps

[Anonymous No.7074114]

>>7074102
I know that there is one shop in cologne if that helps at all.

[Anonymous No.7074124]

>>7073364
I'm willing to spend about $400, and I live in DC

[Anonymous No.7074142]

>>7067474
>tfw can get RM Williams half the price of what it costs in my country

[Anonymous No.7074159]

>>7072210
is it me, or does the front tongue thing look damn ugly? its enough with at the back

[Anonymous No.7074160]

Here's a comparison pic I saved from somewhere, probably that SF thread, showing the difference in sleekness between the standard goodyear welt and the brass screwed sole of the RM's Craftsmans. I kinda like the thin-lipped screwed sole ones. Thinking about a dress pair in the black calf.

[Anonymous No.7074180]

>>7074159
Like what has been said, for most people you won't be able to see it as it'd be covered. I don't find any problem with it, and if >>7072759 says is true then there's a functional reason for them being there.

Looking at that guy's fits he's posted I don't really see a problem. Thing is, I'm probably just used to the look, whether it be on a construction worker, a real stockman or a business man (when the legs of his trousers ride up when he sits down/crosses his legs).
Here's a pic of our previous faggot prime minister with the obama.

[Anonymous No.7074194]

>>7074180
Current pm with the old yank ambassador "trying to fit in",though likely he would've received them as a gift upon arrival.

[Anonymous No.7074209]

>>7074180
>Thing is, I'm probably just used to the look, whether it be on a construction worker, a real stockman or a business man
Oh, and the occasional hip city/country girl that eschews the typical Docs that all the rest of them wear for something different.

[Anonymous No.7074366]

w2c Harry Styles' wrinkly granny skin chelsea boots?

[Anonymous No.7074473]

>>7074142
hook a brother up

[Anonymous No.7075476]

>>7074366
Cordovan Chelsea boots would be one way for it. Alternatively, All Saints had something similar, and Fly London.

[x No.7075491]

>>7073302
No problem. They're very nice boots and defs would cop again.

[Anonymous No.7076742]

>>7074366
Hideous, witch's shoes.

[Anonymous No.7078216]

bump for interest, fits etc.

[Anonymous No.7078288]

>>7074124
For about $360 you could get a pair of rm's sent from australia (incl.shipping, not incl. whatever tax on delivery)

[Anonymous No.7078330]

>>7074366
the fuck needs to take better care of his shoes.

[Anonymous No.7078557]

>>7067474
no chance for a hookup? they cost 520$ in Canada for crafstmen

[Anonymous No.7078580]

>>7078557
see
>>7078288

[x No.7078584]

>>7078557
http://www.portphillipshop.com.au/
This site has international shipping I'm pretty sure, and their prices are quite respectable for RMs.
I ordered MTO riggers for $315 and they delivered promptly and were responsive and helpful with my questions.

[Anonymous No.7078595]

>>7078288
>>7078580
nope it's 270 for the boots, 70 for shipping plus 90 on import taxes for Canada :/

[Anonymous No.7078593]

>>7078584
Are you the guy that got he tanbark roo riggers? (these)

[x No.7078597]

>>7078593
Yip. If you have questions fire away.

[Anonymous No.7078603]

>>7078595
>plus 90 on import taxes
fuck shit

[x No.7078607]

>>7078595
I feel for you :(
Damn import taxes..

[Anonymous No.7078610]

>>7078595
My count is (in AUD) 325 for the boots - bootsonline - +50AUD for postage. 375AUD = 357USD.
+ whatever taxes etc.

Unless you're working in CDN or whatever.

[Anonymous No.7078616]

>>7078610
Sorry, "CAD"

375AUD = 370CAD

[Anonymous No.7078625]

I can get a used pair of RM Turnouts for a good price. The difference between Turnouts and the Crafstmen is that they have a round toe and not a chisel toe. Should I still cop?

[Anonymous No.7078631]

>>7078625
Depends on a lot of factors IMO.
Condition of the shoes. Price. Location of you, of the boots. Do you like the rounded toe? etc.

[Anonymous No.7078637]

>>7078597
lel

I'm thinking about getting some vesta ones made (pic). It's either these or some Red Wings Iron Rangers (amber harness). About the same price. Haven't made up my mind yet.

[Anonymous No.7078638]

>>7078610
I wish

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/R-M-WILLIAMS-BLACK-COMFORT-CRAFTSMAN-BOOTS-9-1-2-G-NEW-/281182640054?pt=AU_Men_Shoes&hash=item4177ca97b6&_uhb=1
+
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/dte-acl/est-cal-eng.html

[JohnnyRoyal !WoRVAc00GA!!O9ygGSFB3JG No.7078645]

>>7078637
Get 8113 Iron Rangers.
They look better worn in.

[Anonymous No.7078642]

>>7078625
>>7078631
Yeah it really depends. If they're beat up you're going to have to pay to get them redone.
How much are they going for?

[Anonymous No.7078647]

>>7078631
These are really cheap, my size and shipping + taxes won't be much as the seller is in the states. I've only been looking out for used ones online for a week so I don't know if I should wait for Craftsmen to show up.
To be honest in pictures the toes almost look identical, I'd need to see the round toe in person for a proper opinion but shops here only carry Crafstmen.

[Anonymous No.7078649]

>>7078647
also in good condition

[x No.7078657]

>>7078647
I'd cop em if they're a good price, the difference will be noticeable but minimal - I personally think the rounded toes are just as good as the chisel toe.
>>7078637
The vesta's look good, and the quality of RMs is unbeatable. I'd go for the RMs simply because it'd be a more unique piece, and Iron Rangers occasionally cop a bad wrap. Up to you though

[Anonymous No.7078658]

>>7078645
Yeah, I kinda like the cap toe of the IR's...

>>7078597
A question for you though: Does the toe section have some kind of inner hard cap like the craftsmans or turnouts?

And, concerning sizing, have you had any difficulties with the rounded toe of the riggers compared to say the craftsmans? Less room? More room?

If they fit just like turnouts that's okay and I know what size to get. This "tanami style" toe business confused me.

[x No.7078670]

>>7078658
They fit just the same, at least they did for me. My craftsman are more roomy but they're a size wider, and I tend to wear them more in summer because of the extra air-ing room. They have an inside toecap, barely noticeable from looking outside.
I suggest if you get the RMs to get the comfort sole too - it's lighter, more durable and more comfortable for the loss of a little sleakness.

[Anonymous No.7078678]

>>7078647
>To be honest in pictures the toes almost look identical,
They're pretty different. But if the boots are dark anyway it won't really matter. I personally prefer the chisel toe; makes them stand out somewhat from the round toe chelsea of the common labourer which is pretty much the standard downndirty boot in australia, of which I have a pair, but they're not something I wear casually and reserve for yard work etc. I've come to associate that round shape with work boots. However, it's a stigma that is specifically australian and shouldn't matter at all in america.

That being said, if you like them and the price is right go for it. It'll give you a taste to see if it may be worth paying more later for other pairs.

[Anonymous No.7078681]

cop or not?

[Anonymous No.7078688]

>>7078670
>I suggest if you get the RMs to get the comfort sole too - it's lighter, more durable and more comfortable for the loss of a little sleakness.

Thanks.
I was wondering about the innersole. Comfort or leather? I tried the comfort type craftsmans in store and have to say that they were much more comfy than the traditional leather insole.
I wonder how durable that inner sock thing is though?
You going to keep that look on the riggers? Or are you considering polishing them?

[x No.7078703]

>>7078688
Rubber sole, comfort insole* is what I meant. I think they come together, but yeah - comfort insole is the go (for riggers at least).
Pic related is after about day 3. I might polish them before the start of next winter but I'm undecided.

[Anonymous No.7078724]

>>7078703
>Rubber sole, comfort insole* is what I meant. I think they come together

They come together standard, but don't have to. Basically, you can have any combination of insole/outsole.
Cept perhaps with the screwed soles.
Think they come with a leather insole only but could be wrong.
That's what I like about RMW! So many possible customisations for a reasonable price.
Thanks for the info, it's rare since there doesn't appear to be much talk about them anywhere so it's hard to get good info.

[x No.7078730]

>>7078724
Yeah, the customisability is excellent. Really makes them an outstanding brand.
And true, the brass screws are the only ones that require leather insole. Very sleek + long lasting too.

[Anonymous No.7078760]

Can chelsea boots be used as winter boots? Obviously not in a snow storm, but can they survive some slush and such?

[x No.7078765]

>>7078760
Yep. Mine lasted through snowy Belgian winter. I would suggest wiping them down after going through the salty slush from roadsides because the salt can stuff up the leather a fair bit, but otherwise quite well. The leather soles can be slippery too, I'd suggest the rubber soles as an alternative.

[Anonymous No.7078807]

>>7078760
Depends on the make and model really. Some leathers, if untreated or even if treated may not be so suitable for getting wet. Same with soles. A rubber or synthetic sole is going to hold up much better than leather. When leather soles get wet they will wear 10 times faster or something , particularly on concrete and roads. A stormwelt would ensure some form of waterproofing. This goes for all leather shoes ro be honest. Generally, this goes for all "dressing" shoes.

[Anonymous No.7079050]

chelsea boots always yay, unless with shorts

i love in black, makes any rock/roll outfit

[Anonymous No.7079085]

>>7078807
>"dressing" shoes.
sorry, meant "dressier" shoes. god damn tablet autocorrect.
Basically, if the shoe doesn't look like it's made for rough and tumble use in the wild elements, it's perhaps preferable to not use it thusly. You can, but there's a reason why such hardy/over-engineered shoes are made.

[Anonymous No.7079091]

>>7078638
Nah, don't order them from some tightarse ebay seller. Try one of the official retailers. Like what was mentioned above, there's one or two of them that can be persuaded to *ahem, state that the boots are seconds or something and perhaps declare a value not equal to the value one actually paid for the boots. Might help with them taxes. You'll never know if you don't ask.

On this, I've never encountered more tightarse/overly cautious sellers than those in the US. Must be that customs etc., is much more scrutinised or something? Can't be as bad as say, Germany. Brits and Aussies are pretty laid back in regards to declared value, if asked. They want to get the product to you, after all.

Just a thought.

[Anonymous No.7079211]

>>7072171
well these >>7068085 are Santoni , they also have ones with broguing both leather and shammy
shit's expensive tho, so depends on your wallet

[Anonymous No.7079233]

Guys, look at these.

I'm rock hard.

[Anonymous No.7079261]

>>7079233
Must be a SF member's pic or something. Most RM's I see are matt if not scuffed to shit.
Obviously well taken care of - look like they've been around.

[Anonymous No.7079292]

>>7079261

It's the creases more than anything.

[Anonymous No.7079858]

Love my wolverines. Wear them hard, they look hot.

[Anonymous No.7080232]

The merits of black or browns (dark) has been discussed. But what about lighter colours? Are they effay?

[Anonymous No.7080242]

>>7080232
And this:

[Anonymous No.7080458]

>>7080232
>>7080242
I was once told that you had to be old to wear such colored boots. Like, white hair old.