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6951702 No.6951702 [Reply] [Original]

anyone see this ye interview?

why is he so mad at hedi slimane for?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K2T0fMkZoMo#t=662

fast forwarded it to where he starts losing it and talking about clothing

>> No.6951711 [DELETED] 

my bad guys, heres the link

http://youtu.be/K2T0fMkZoMo?t=11

>> No.6951722

my bad guys, heres the link

http://youtu.be/K2T0fMkZoMo?t=11m

>> No.6951735

IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR A MINUTE HEDI SLIMANE

>> No.6951732

w2c jacket

>> No.6951738

>>6951702
Thanks for sharing this, his insights on Pusha T are pretty interesting

>> No.6951799

cause kanye has a fat bro body and cant into heroin chic

>> No.6951830

NICE $5 000 JEANS, FAGGOT

>> No.6951854

this is hilarious, i dont think zane knows what he's on about

>> No.6951862

I GO TO /FA/ SOMETIMES

>> No.6951865

aww yeah, rant kanye at the end

>> No.6951870

>>6951702
could you plz post the minutes and seconds to fast forward to. I cant listen to this shit

>> No.6951871

>>6951870
second post bruh

>> No.6951875

why is he still trying

>> No.6951884

>>6951702

>tfw Hedi Slimane is getting sprayed like 2pac in the near future

>> No.6951895
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6951895

>this is the photo that brough givenchy to the hood

>> No.6951898

>>6951702
I fucking love this interview

w2c chain?

>> No.6952041

>leather jogging pants to fendi

u wot

>> No.6952091

where does ye cop his basics? tshirts and stuff?

>> No.6952116

>>6952091
alexander wang and acne

>> No.6952132
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6952132

>hedi doesn't let ye into his show
>ye creates i am a god and new slaves in retaliation with the producers the made the music for hedis show

>> No.6952160

out of curiosity, what did you guys think of yeezus?

>> No.6952176

>>6952160
nah nigga I ain't up on yo new shit

Srsly though is this a peak for Kanye, or will he continue to put out decent stuff

>> No.6952210

>>6952176
personally i don't think he's ever going to write anything better than my beautiful dark twisted fantasy. the production on yeezus was alright for kanye, and i'll give him props for playing around with a new sound and trying to make it his own, but the lyrics sounded like they were written in the car on the way to the recording studio

>> No.6952222

>>6952210
i should point out, 'alright for kanye' means great for most producers in the game right now

>> No.6952225

>>6951702
>why is he so mad at hedi slimane for?
i'd guess it's because he's a shitty designer

then again, ye is a shitty dresser

>> No.6952236
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cuz hedi slimane sucks dude

>> No.6952233

>>6951895
It's not a bad photo, the dude in the skinny leopard pants and the boots is a massive fag though, he's the dude who helped ruin snap backs and vintage clothes.

>buys vintage clothes
>stiches his label into the fabric
>IT'S FASHION GUYS HURR DURR!

Mean while poor people have to wear the scraps he decided not to send his help out to buy.

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>>6951895

>> No.6952281

>>6952225
post fit

>> No.6952306

>slimayne

fucking hell, "don't talk to me about style i'll embarss you"

this nigga embarrassed himself, can't even get the name right

>> No.6952318

>WHERE IS THE COACHER WRAP?

>> No.6952313

>>6952233
who is that guy?

are any of these guys still relevant?

>> No.6952325

>>6952313
they're his road crew for when he's away from paris and cant fuck ricardo tisci in the ass

>> No.6952356

>>6952313
Remember the TISA snap backs?

That faggot in the skinny leopards made them.

>> No.6952443

This dude is so fucking pretentious
"I brought real rap back"
"We the new rockstars and I'm the biggest of all of 'em"
who does he think he is? nas? holy shit

>> No.6952462

>>6952443
listen longer, you'll find out
>I told you, I think I'm a God! That's why I made the song!

Just as a side note, why do you care?

>> No.6952476

>>6952443
got 30secs in and closed it

never listened to his stuff and now i have a reason to continue not listening to his shit.

>> No.6952500

Why does he fake a british accent?

>> No.6952515

>>6952443
he fucked my bitch, literally

>> No.6952522

>>6952443
Seriously. How new?

>> No.6952563
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>>6952462
>>6952515
Is he Lil B?

>> No.6952561

>>6952476
making a mistake mayne
the latter part of the video where the interviewer guy shuts up is pretty interesting and ye has made some amazing music whether you like him or not

>> No.6952565

he seams so angry

>> No.6952569

why does anyone listen to kanye when it comes to fashion anyway

I'd rather watch LegendaryFashionGuru vids

>> No.6952649

>>6952443
why do you fucking care bro? is he your god?

>> No.6952724

>>6952210
they (the lyrics) literally were. theres a rick ruben interview where he says Ye calls him up at 3am and says meet me in the studio at 5 and they record it.

>> No.6952780

I am a god is about hedi not letting ye come to thr SL show lololol, i guess that's why he's talking about rappers being rockstars, opposite of what hedi does

>> No.6952798

>all that name dropping

>> No.6952808

>>6952210
>but the lyrics sounded like they were written in the car on the way to the recording studio
yeah, they were.
http://www.complex.com/music/2013/06/rick-rubin-kanye-west-yeezus-two-hours
>We were working on a Sunday [the same day West attended a baby shower for girlfriend Kim Kardashian] and the album was to be turned in two days later. Kanye was planning to go to Milan that night. Five songs still needed vocals and two or three of them still needed lyrics. He said, “Don’t worry, I will score 40 points for you in the fourth quarter.” In the two hours before had to run out to catch the plane, he did exactly that: finished all lyrics and performed them with gusto. A remarkable feat. He had total confidence in his ability to get the job done when push came to shove.
>>6952160
I liked it.
Not Kanye's best though; he should have spend some time on his lyrics.
Everything else was on point though.

>>6952565
Eh, Kanye is quick to anger.
I don't think he's angry though, just passionate.

And I understand the point he's making.
The old school "rock stars" are all rappers.
Freddie Mercury, Mick Jagger, Elton John, David Bowie, all of those classic rock archtypes; rappers hold those positions now.
Jay-Z, Kanye
...There isn't really any actual "rock" rock stars.
Lady Gaga?
Katy Perry? (j/k)

>>6952443
>missing the point
you're a pleb bro

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>>6952569
cause kanye is swag as fuck

>> No.6952829

Lol I can't even understand anything kanye says. He just opens his mouth and shit sprays out. He's like some kind of sewerage nossle.

>> No.6952894

damn son, I am surprised this guy could even ask kanye questions about the album with his dick so far down his fuckin throat. das some serious skill as an interviewer.

>> No.6952924

>dissing kanye
He's real. If you guys weren't biased against him, maybe you'd actually try and listen to what he has to say.

>> No.6952930

>>6952894
>>6952924
I like Kanye

I just think the host was gagin hard on that yeezus dick.

>> No.6952929

>>6952829
>>6952894
screams from the haters, got a nice ring to it

i guess every superhero needs his theme music

>> No.6952944

that's not even how you say Hedi Slimane

>> No.6952948

>>6952929
sup homie

>>6952930
I like him, just didn't like the host

>> No.6952961

>>6951884

>tfw sum thug as fuck niggas in a lowrider filled with 420 blaze it smoke car will empty them glocks and tec9's in the heroin bod of Hedi soon

>> No.6952962

I wrote about Slimane on here a while ago and why I'm not a particularly big fan of his, pretty much along the same lines as what Kanye is now saying, I'll post it in a second

>> No.6952976
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6952976

Hedi, as a designer, has always been rather overrated, at least to me. When he first started designing for Dior Homme, it was a relatively fresh take on menswear - people, at first, were aghast at his vision, saying "I can't believe his putting denim on the runway, this is the house of Dior!". But his subversiveness really played into his style, a style that was based around the image of excess and rock star cool. Despite the quality of some of the clothing (Especially in collections like Luster), they weren't all that impressive design wise, it was the image and the hype selling the clothes. In fact, I think everything Slimane did was done better and earlier by Lad Musician. The subversive styling, the extremely tall and skinny cuts, the darkened color palette and rock-star coolness. All done earlier in Japan.
But Hedi's work had an incontrovertible effect on the mainstream fashion public. His style was edgy, but it wasn't off-putting or avant-garde, and his clothes weren't particularly special, they were just "cool", and you say that trickle down to high street chains like Topshop, and towards the end of Slimane's tenure, there were so many unoriginal copycats of an unoriginal copycat that the market was saturated with Slimane's grungy style.
Fast forward 5 years after Slimane's last collection to his appointment at YSL. Nothing really changed - he's pulling out the same old gimmicks, his styling is even more bizarre and uninspired and non-cohesive, he can't even be bothered to uphold the rock star look that sold his clothes in the collections themselves, the rock star image is more prevalent in the advertisement. And frankly, from my experience, the quality doesn't justify the exorbitant prices. In the mid-2000s, Dior Homme jeans were well-reputed, especially since quality japanese denim was still relatively difficult to get a hold of. Now, you can get such a wider range of far better denim and SLP are still putting out the same rubbish.

>> No.6952983

>>6952561
interesting music doesnt justify being a complete bigot.

>> No.6952989
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Frankly, most of the collections look like rejects from Topshop and Topman, simply because Slimane refuses to innovate and bring something new into the industry that's been so heavily influenced by his original work, which was hardly stellar in itself. Hedi is an uninspired hack who's success lies more in marketing and image than design.
That and he's fucked over SLP tremendously, basically spitting in the face of Yves' legacy. Changing the name to the gaudy and gauche "Saint Laurent Paris" and moving the house to California? That's disgusting.

>> No.6953012

>>6952976
I agree. It seems that hedi cannot compromise his rock star aesthetic with the elegance and sensibilities of ysl.
It's funny because that is an elementary technique of any competent designer.

Look at fw 2013 and them look at fw 2008 and you will see that hedi is a joke

>> No.6953017

>>6952929
>>6952829

nah mane. I'm a kanye fan. He's just so inarticulate in interview etc.

>> No.6953027

>>6952976
>>6952989
this is only your perception - very little of which is true.
wow after reading it again it's just full of random bs. did hedi molest you during your youth?

>had a huge green text thing but i have essays to write...
yeh no just relook at your post and perhaps see a psych about your childhood hedi trauma.

>> No.6953052

>>6953027
Why post just to stir up shit?
Way to contribute nothing

Inb4 yeah I'm a shit poster B)

Eat shit you contrarian dickhead

>> No.6953067

>>6953027
le filtered
>kek

>> No.6953071

>>6953027
don't bother posting if you have nothing to say please.

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>>6953027
It's not "True" or "False", it's my opinion and the reasoning behind it. Why toss in "perception"? That's a complete cop-out. We're discussing a subject that is almost entirely subjective, yes of course you can throw in that it's subjective but that's a cheap way of debating and really reduces the chance of effective and worthwhile dialogue between people with different opinions.
But you'd rather just joke about sexual assault.
If you feel differently about Slimane's work and the current state of Saint Lauren, feel free to present your opinion, but you're just acting childishly. I know you're knowledgable about fashion, I'd be interested in what you have to say in regards to Slimane's work, just respond in your own time.
If you just want to say "Well that's your opinion", we can simply stop right here because I doubt there's really any discussion that can come from that

>> No.6953129

>>6953120
can you please give info on the designer/collection in your pic. ty

>> No.6953140

>>6951722
the guys face when kanye says
>"we're all gonna die one day"
makes it look like kanye just hit him with the most profound knowledge in the universe. jesus fucking christ, wanna slap that dumb faggot across the face

>> No.6953143

>>6953129
It's an editorial from Inventory Magazine styled by Stephen Mann, can't tell you exactly what brands, but Mann is a big fan of The Soloist, and Miyashita's aesthetic's influence is heavy in the editorial

>> No.6953155

>I feel like I was able to start making what just exactly was in my mind again, not having to speak with the textures of the time
>rips off death grips and other industrial/experimental hip hop
>Yeezus
>creative

damn people do love sucking Kanye's dick

>> No.6953169

>>6953052
>>6953067
>>6953071
>>6953120
just because something is long doesn't make it correct - consider reading?

>eren't all that impressive design wise
? wrong.

>image and the hype selling the clothes.
no
he does what any good designer does and creates a world which his clothes exist in. people find appeal in this world and want to invest themselves in it.
consider rick, thom browne or ann.

>verything Slimane did was done better and earlier by Lad Musician.
lad musician has such a big spectrum of work it's really hard to say 'he/she did it better than him/her' it's just a ignorant statement tbh there are heaps of differences none of which you are appreciating.

>edgy
>avant-garde
these are 100% red lights of not knowing what the fuck you're saying

>trickle down to high street chains like Topshop
welcome to fast fashion business models?

> unoriginal copycats of an unoriginal copycat that the market was saturated with Slimane's grungy style.
welcome to ANY fast fashion market ever.
the orginality argument is really not worth rebutling but it's prettyyyyy boring especially in the context of design where there are neckbeards that will always argue 'ORGINALITY IS DEAD THE STONE AGE WAS THE BEST AGE' etc etc.

>Slimane's last collection to his appointment at YSL Nothing really changed - he's pulling out the same old gimmicks
you know that people with a lot more credit than you say that about rick right? just because he's not moving at the speed of raf who seems to reinvent himself every 3years doesn't mean it's not going somewhere/trying to provoke something.

> bizarre and uninspired and non-cohesive
it's been pretty loyal to that whole post-punk/statdium rock burnt out thing and just continues to hit it with more vigour.

>he can't even be bothered to uphold the rock star look that sold his clothes in the collections themselves, the rock star image is more prevalent in the advertisement.
lol what
he's still making bank man...iirc his shit sells out fast.

>> No.6953174

>>6953155
Off of dg cock seriously

>> No.6953187

>>6952561
>the latter part of the video where the interviewer guy shuts up is pretty interesting

You mean
>we rockstar now
>we coutcha (culture?) now
>i brought back rap
>i created 10 years of material that bettered the world
?

I don't know enough about Kanye to be biased against him but he comes across as an egotistical jackass in this video.

>> No.6953197

>>6953155
He didn't even produce the DG lite tracks which were the only remotely interesting ones on the album

>> No.6953190

>>6953174
I dont even like DG all that much

Yeezus was just a piece of shit album but people think its all creative and shit because Kanye's name is on it

>> No.6953198

>>6953190
Did you listen to it?

>> No.6953218

>>6952976
>Dior Homme jeans
i feel like this is where your whole point comes from, like you define all of hedi's work by the popularity and design of dior jeans or s/t.

>look like rejects from Topshop and Topman
>frankly all of yohji yamamoto looks like it's been ripped off a homeless man

> Slimane refuses to innovate and bring something new into the industry that's been so heavily influenced by his original work
>Rick owens refuses to stop making black things, thus not bringing new things into the industry etc etc

>SLP tremendously,
feel free to prove me wrong but yeah i think they made pretty good sales.
uuhhhh ... Yve's employed him - tbh if it was that bad i don't think the contract would have lasted.
he's making bank tho so...

>>6953120
perception is a cop out?????????
you have a warped perception and you're badly informed.
cry more dude, just like w/ the fucking laughable comparison of PH to eg you made the other day you're just fabricating information and repeating points in long and windy texts.

ima be fucking all nighting this essay fuck you man.

>> No.6953244

God damn, I love humble and controlled he seems at the beginning before going all-out in that last minute or so. He's staring Zane down that entire blast, like he was Hedi. As much as I love Kanye, that dude needs to be on some medication.

>> No.6953261

>>6953198
yes

it was so sloppy, it was devoid of creative spirit

besides the first track which I enjoyed a lot, everything was bordering shit to a public latrine

it lacks what some of his earlier stuff has, he's way too caught up in this persona he made that he forgot how to make good music or something

>> No.6953280

>>6953169
While I agree somewhat about doing " what any good designer does and creates a world which his clothes exist in", it's as much about the execution of the clothes themselves. Which Slimane fails at.
> just because he's not moving at the speed of raf who seems to reinvent himself every 3years doesn't mean it's not going somewhere/trying to provoke something.
But he's not. If anything, he's fucking regressing, at least at Dior Homme you would see some fantastic detailing and attention to construction, whereas now it's even more simplistic and dumbed down
>it's been pretty loyal to that whole post-punk/statdium rock burnt out thing and just continues to hit it with more vigour.
That's what I'm saying, but with less vigor, with less inspiration.
Frankly, it's Slimane making high street fashion. The execution of the rock star look is far sloppier than it had been at Dior Homme. Slimane's certainly not unique within the market, and his "consistency" is his downfall. Yes, Rick does touch on the same concepts repeatedly, and I know you're being facetious when you say "Rick owens refuses to stop making black things", but he's covered far more territory in both his womens and menswear (moreso menswear) and been far more fresh and innovative in the past few years, even if he is basing his collections around the same core. Whereas Slimane stays in his comfort zone rigidly.
Also talking about financial success as a defense of design is ridiculous, it just talks about how stupid consumers can be.

And good luck with your essay.

>> No.6953337

I just realized that kanye west totally act the same as my father lol. When he talked about something that he was sure about he always went crazy like that

>> No.6953347

>>6953280
>he fails
citation needed
he may fail to you but he checks all the boxes so as to keep his career trucking along.

>he's fucking regressing
uhhh
okay...?
at any rate, dumbed down =/= bad
tbh it's probably true to the aesthetic.

>less vigor, with less inspiration.
nah, it's definitely more
>less inspiration
wut
wuuutt
wuuuuuuuuuttttttttt
w2c discounted inspiration?

>Slimane making high street fashion
because high street fashion is mimicking hedi doesn't mean he's mimicking high sreet fashion
he's been doing his thing for awhile now and people have caught on and also like it, it's not a bad thing and it's not something to really fault him on...tbh it's just a really stupid perception
Zara is ripping at rick but does that mean rick is not unique because SOMEWHAT similar designs exist in lower markets?
no, one is seemingly totally independent of the other.

>consistency" is his downfall.
>downfall
that's why his shit sells.

> does touch on the same concepts repeatedly
the comparison totally went past you
you...designers have different intentions and aspirations or things they want to advocate in their collections - there isn't some sort of totalitarian IT MUST BE THIS THAT AND THAT way to 'succeed design'. the golden rule is pretty much - make enough money so that you can keep doing what you're doing. anything past that is for nerds on the internet to bitch about.

>hedi slimane covered far more territory in both his womens and menswear (moreso menswear) and been far more fresh and innovative in the past few years, even if he is basing his collections around the same core. Whereas rick owens stays in his comfort zone rigidly.

>financial success as a defense of design is ridiculous, it just talks about how stupid consumers can be.
lol...welcome to capitalism?
just because shit isn't getting hyped on random internet forums doesn't mean they're unsuccessful. in reality we are the ones disconnected from the reality, we're the stupid consumers.

>> No.6953372

>>6953347
Being financially successful has nothing to do with your vision as a designer! The less creative you are, the less willing you are to experiment, the more likely you'll maintain a consistent fanbase and sell your clothes. Those are the boxes Heidi checks. Heidi does stay rigidly within his comfort zone, his idea of fashion based around three principles "Music,youth and sex" [Slimane's own words].
You seem completely reluctant to discuss Slimane's actual work and instead would rather talk about the financial success of SLP and how he's managed to target their fanbase. YSL bringing in Slimane wasn't as much a fashion choice as a financial one - it'd appeal to a younger market, and that's what it did, that's why it's selling, by rigidly sticking to the aesthetic and selling that image. It's like Givenchy bringing in Tisci - yes it's selling. Ridiculously overwrought and tacky graphic t-shirts are selling. That doesn't credit Tisci as a designer as much as it credits Givenchy as a company.
Yes, fashion is a business but we can talk about design independent of financial success, as we should.

>> No.6953427

How do I learn more about these high fashion designers? I don't want to be a street level villain anymore.

>> No.6953434

>>6953372
if you can't make money you can't eat and you die.
this is a reality.
there will always be creative compromise so as to ensure basic needs are met.
refer to rick and gareth - twerk has a good post explaining why it's important too but tl;dr
gareth had great designs - dirt broke and that's why they're kind've a lot less ostentatious now because his needs for money are actually sort of important, he can't feed himself on checkered neoprene.
rick in ref to his earlier collections and how he's cultured a cult.

> reluctant to discuss Slimane's actual work and instead would rather talk about the financial success of SLP and how he's managed to target their fanbase
misunderstood, re-read in ref to how to counter points you.

> talk about design independent of financial success, as we should.
lol
design is directly influenced by finance especially if you're not independent

>YSL bringing in Slimane wasn't as much a fashion choice as a financial one
>That and he's fucked over SLP tremendously, basically spitting in the face of Yves' legacy.
what point are you making?
lol, so what point are you trying to shift to now?

> Slimane's actual work
what is there to discuss with you?
what you consider gaudy and tacky doesn't indicate anything about the reality
what you consider bad design is some false pretense you've regurgitated after recalling hours spent reading equally as toxic forum posts.
all i'm doing is proving you wrong with real figures which define what successful work means in the real world for big corporations opposed to wishy washy baseless 'perception'.

besides the point tbh, i've already talked about his work in more depth than you have (yes, repeating that you don't like it =/= depth).

at the end of the day hedi did what he did when it wasn't selling, he kept doing it till it did sell and he's maintaining what he always has; doing what he wants to do and richening his world.
like any good designer.

>> No.6953463

>>6953372
hedi doesn't change his vision and keeps the same core of music, youth and sex because that just represents exactly what he aims to do, it's the world created by a designer that turny was talking about earlier. blaming him for sticking to his ideas and consistency (ie making dough) is just saying you wish he would dilute his concepts and images. that's not the point. that's not what people want, that's not what hedi wants. change in the name of change (or experimentation as you use it, redefining one's vision) goes exactly against his goals.
you can vary within an aesthetic without going from grunge to futuristic-inspired to heritage to drapey textural and monochrome from season to season -- sticking to their "world" is essentially what every designer does, and it's what hedi sets out to do.

>> No.6953502

>>6953434
>if you can't make money you can't eat and you die.
>this is a reality.

so what, it's something completely separate from actual quality/irrelevant

horrible shit sells all the time i just don't see how you can consider that a valid defense of anything in general

>> No.6953524

>>6952814
damn it this is like how i want to dress right here if only i was black

>> No.6953527

>>6953502
>Being financially successful has nothing to do with your vision as a designer!
this is the directed response.
you cant continue to make eccentric things if you cant fund it.

>completely separate from actual quality/irrelevant
wrong
if you have no money you cant afford to flesh out your aspirations --> failure.
it's better to half fail and the perhaps fail less the next time then completely 100% fail from the get go.

>horrible shit sells
you're proving my point?
maybe consider it as a equilibrium.
if it's 100% commerical with no creative integrity it will have a higher chance of succeeding (maybe like zara which grosses billions annualy).
if it's 100% creative with no respect to commerical success it will probably not last
consider gareth pre-rick.

it's a really simple idea

>> No.6953664

>>6952356
hated those w/ a passion
>>6952476
aside from beatles what do you list.2?

>> No.6953753

>Sometimes when i go to HypeBeast(..) people diss me
hehe what would he say when he comes on here