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The controversy over the Raf Simons Adidas collaboration shoes on this board made me wonder: what have been some of the other really divisive pieces of clothing on this board in the past?

>> No.6859256

not a piece but givenchy generally. i've been here for a while but i can't remember many off the top of my head. /fa/ is a hivemind most of the time but i guess some can't accept the rafdidas. i personally like them a lot and plan to buy a pair eventually

>> No.6859271

>>6859256
Givenchy pulls out some great stuff
Y3 : over designed pieces of crap

>> No.6859296

>>6859271
god y3 is fucking attrocious

>> No.6859297

I wish /fa/ disagreed with each other without having totally opposed aesthetic ideas more often. Half the time when someone rips on Rafdidas it's because they like #menswear and don't even get what Raf was trying to achieve. It lowers the level of discourse considerably when people resort to that.

I don't think different styles should be quarantined to different boards or different websites. I think cross-pollination of ideas from different styles is a great thing. But when you have one person saying "get real men's shoes" and another saying "dadcore gb2 >>>/reddit/" it's so pointless

>> No.6859304

Geos
Most of the hate is just sour grapes.

>> No.6859314

>>6859256
>i guess some can't accept the rafdidas
i consider myself very open-minded
i can appreciate most pieces for what they are and want to be and how they should be used for

but i don't get adirafs
i don't know why there were designed or ever made
and i have never seen a good fit with them

>> No.6859321

Does anybody else think the transparent bubble things look like drops of coloured cum?

>> No.6859323

poor taste comes from lack of being able to appreciate or relate to something

>> No.6859339

Is /fa/ still undecided over Visvim? If seen people that love it and see the brand as the pinnacle of quality and design, and some who see it as overpriced, overdesigned garbage that banks on 'tradition'.

>> No.6859344

>>6859304

Get out you hivemind piece of shit

>> No.6859345
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>>6859314
i'm the guy you responded to.

hmm i've never really put a lot of thought into it. i can get why people find them ugly, some people like them for being "ironically" ugly and kind of a mock of that classic silhouette with higher production quality and maybe a more cohesive/sleek color pallette. however i actually find them to be really aesthetically pleasing. although in an outfit i've never seen them pulled off without a black bottom

>> No.6859353

>>6859345

>higher production quality
Aren't they made in the same factories as other Adidas shoes?

>> No.6859364

>>6859353
are they? i don't know that was just my assumption

>> No.6859376

>>6859364

You can even see the glue on the OP pic.

>> No.6859378

>>6859353
>>6859364
>>6859376
they're made in china

>> No.6859380

>>6859339
people rarely say very nasty things about it. the worst I hear is "overpriced". visvim should just stop pretending they're giving quality for dollar so people will stop complaining. You pay for the nextlevel street/traditional hybrid look. no different than paying for rick

>> No.6859383

>>6859380
oops accidentally put the = in the name field, meant to be anonymous

>> No.6859387

>>6859380
i don't think visvim is pretending that they're giving quality for dollar.

>> No.6859390

>>6859339

i like its aesthetic but i think hiroki is a jew

>>6859387

everybody on hypebeast and sufu seems to be under that impression tho

>> No.6859395

>>6859387
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGj8ro1ttfA

their 600$ ballistic backpacks were made in china

>> No.6859398

>>6859390
it always seems to be really geeky asian kids wearing it too, can't take that shit seriously anymore its worse than those comme des garcons play t-shirts

>> No.6859409

>>6859387
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGj8ro1ttfA

he sort of makes it sound like that. there's no mention of value, but he definitely talks about quality and durability

>> No.6859412

>>6859390
you're mostly paying for design and concept, i thought that went without saying. i guarantee sufu will agree

>> No.6859418

>>6859395
ah you beat me to the link

>> No.6859420

>>6859390
>everybody on hypebeast and sufu seems to be under that impression tho

That's just the first line of defense uneducated buyers resort to when they're challenged for spending so much on shoes.

>> No.6859428

>>6859345
idk

with shoes like those, you're getting all the attention to your feet

and i don't like my "peacock piece" to be my shoes

for this reason i like more minimal monochromatic shoes

but even then, i don't care for the "basic mesh 90's tennis shoe" aesthetic

if you really have a boner for that aesthetic, good for you dude

>> No.6859433

i don't get it
they just look like ugly running shoes

>> No.6859440

>>6859428
shoes are the best thing to peacock with tho

rick owens says so

>> No.6859436

>>6859398
Speaking of Comme Des Garcons does anybody give a shit about Play? Whenever I've seen that line in stores the pieces have looked pretty unappealing. It just seems like they're clothes for people who want to wear Comme Des Garcons for the name, and want everyone to know that they're wearing 'high fashion', but don't want to pay Comme Des Garcons prices. Maybe I'm just cynical though. Diffusion lines sometimes strike me as quick money grabs that bank on people wanting to look like they're into fashion (especially Play and T by A Wang)

>> No.6859446

I think raf has really lost it, the only thing he seems to be selling is the re-released velcros, when ever anybody buys anything else by him its purely for the name, its like he got really high one night while reading a brooks brothers catalog and found some amazing inspiration in it

>> No.6859444

>>6859436
>strike me as quick money
thats exactly what PLAY is, rei even says so herself

>> No.6859448
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>>6859339
As someone who still owns a couple pairs of Visvim shoes, the claims of quality are greatly exaggerated.
What is the point of vegetable tanned elk leather when it's just a glued-on sole?
Visvim is overpriced for the most part - their denim jeans and jackets in particular - many use blended polyester in the cotton.
The claims of price being in direct relation to quality is untrue. And the design aspects of the brand have never been that strong, just the styling of fantastic seasons like AW09 and AW10. Visvim is very much a joke at this point.

>> No.6859461

>>6859446
if raf's stuff felt inspired right now that would be an improvement

it seems more like he doesn't care as much

that said, I really have no idea; I don't follow raf closely

>> No.6859475

>>6859461
Yea I mean if he was doing something really special with the minimalist menswear I would be behind him 100% but it seems like hes just taking the piss, putting his name on ultra basic things of mediocre quality.

>> No.6859489

everyone throws around "overpriced" too easily. i can't think of a time when that word could be applicable to fashion, no matter how outrageous a price seems to you personally

>>6859446
that's not the only thing he's selling? just because that's the only piece of his you see in /fa/ waywts doesn't mean anything. and the "purely for the name" statement doesn't have any basis

>> No.6859499

>>6859440
>shoes are the best thing to peacock
i disagree
i peacock with a shirt or hat
to keep the focus up here, ya dig

RO shoes don't peacock
just because they're big and expensive doesn't mean it will immediately draw attention to it

>> No.6859515

>>6859499
oversized clunky leather sneakers won't draw attention but a low sneaker with a silhouette that has been around since probably before the 90s will?

>> No.6859518
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>>6859499
well he has said that hair and shoes say it all, talking with clothing is passive-aggressive, etc. the way he wears his shoes (and hair, I should add) seems to confirm that

>> No.6859520

>>6859515
with a silhouette and design*

>> No.6859528

>>6859489
>and the purely for the name statement doesn't have any basis
so raf releases a plain black jumper for $400, j-crew has a plain black jumper exactly the same for $70, buying the raf one would achieve what except for having his name on the tag?

>> No.6859526
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6859526

Raf's knit/sweater game is pretty nice this season, though.

>> No.6859535

>>6859520
I think some people spend 90% of their day browsing through tumblr blogs full of black and white photography, looking at monochrome fits, etc. then when they see something colorful it's a bit like a vampire seeing sunlight

>> No.6859536

>>6859526
blatant kenzo rip off

>> No.6859543

>>6859515
because the adirafs have so many different colors and textures that will surely contrast with the rest of your fit

>>6859518
oh yeah no i remember the interview you're talking about
i get how shoes carry a lot of personality because they were developed out of function rather than fashion and all that kind of stuff

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>>6859543
contrast isn't the worst thing

>> No.6859556

>>6859547
>you will never look this simple and comfy at the same time

>> No.6859561

>>6859547
>ill_person_walking_around_hospital_ward_for_something_to_do.jpg

>> No.6859562

>>6859547
vaporwave; the shoe

>> No.6859558

>>6859547
contrast isn't inherently bad
good fits can still have contrasting shoes but keep attention to the face

that picture though makes me want to throw up

>> No.6859563

>>6859528
do you really think those jumpers are /exactly/ the same? i want you to link me to both and i'll try to spot the differences for you.

>>6859547
i honestly love the juxtaposition.

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>>6859562
as an unironic fan of vaporwave, i am disgruntled by this post

>> No.6859577

lets be real tho the raf archive pieces are excellent even if it's archive

>> No.6859589
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>>6859577
and such great value, too.

sidenote: I can never figure out why it is that normal people don't understand fashion

>> No.6859605

>>6859589
sarcasm?? who cares about the price, when you're paying for designer clothing you're never paying for what the garment is "technically" worth. you will always be over paying in that sense. of course in a different sense there is a vision, design, concept, it's a show and a medium. maybe fashion isn't your game, or maybe just stick with lower price points. i never consider the price when assessing clothes

>> No.6859664

>>6859436
T by Wang makes some really comfortable shirts and stuff and doesn't have recognizable branding the way cdg play does, i don't really see the connection.

>> No.6860041
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>>6859448
>the design aspects of the brand have never been that strong

I think they're pushing a pretty unique and well-designed product. Like any other brand/designer some products are pretty weak, but they've made some cool stuff recently

So I don't know that I'd call them a joke. I do think they need to drop the bullshit about quality, but I think their aesthetic is still unique and relevant

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>>6859562

>> No.6861027

>>6859230
New Balances. They're fucking ugly as fuck but people seem to like posting them for some reason.

rafadidas is much worse though

>> No.6861076

>>6861015
Nice.

>> No.6861392

my problem with rafidas is that there's no 3 stripes

same goes for RO Adidas

can't really have adidas w/o stripes ya know ...

at least geodunks have a kind of swoosh

>> No.6861402

>>6861392
There is 3 stripes on the back

>> No.6861409

>>6861402

oh cool, that's better, but not the same

tfw no different hypercolour for each stripe

>> No.6861407
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>>6861392
also, the rickidas have the stripes on the sides in the form of perforated holes

>> No.6862000

>>6859230
dope

>> No.6862035

>>6861407

RO really outdoes himself when it comes to making the most atrocious footwear money can buy.

Absolutely disgusting.

>> No.6862248

>>6862035
dope

>> No.6862263
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>>6859230
Can people post fits with adirafs please? Even if they are models.

>> No.6862262

>>6861407

these are honestly disgusting fucking shoes

cant wait to see little muntered fat kids wearing these

>> No.6862266

>>6862263

yo /fa/ im requesting the tumblr of that gay nigga who wear them, he had them quite early actually, i think he is a model too, but he a gay nigga, like literally gay

>> No.6862287
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6862287

Lol Rafidas fucking suck I hate em sooooo much autist shoes

Has anyone else on /fa/ actually bought a pair though?

>> No.6862291

>>6862287

yo dats the nigga ^^^^

post his tumblr please

>> No.6862312
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>>6862291
http://leopoldasbeach.tumblr.com/

The colour of my rafidas look great in this though.

>> No.6862320

>>6862312

he a cool dude i love his style

>> No.6862325

>>6859230

damn those are ugly, design screams 90's and all the colors are fucking terrible.

>> No.6862326
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>>6862320
He's really cute aswell.

>> No.6862344

>>6862326

come on dudet dont be faggy even tho he a fag and i dont really like fag becuz they loud and obnoxious i still hang around with im

>> No.6862455

>>6861015
Terrible.

>> No.6862469
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6862469

>>6861407
They look like they'd age badly

>> No.6862471

>>6862312

what were those vibskov trousers you copped again?

>> No.6862475
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>> No.6862478

>>6861015

if this is your fit, top kek

looks like absolute shit

>> No.6862476
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6862476

>>6862471
Off Fly Away pants

>> No.6862485

>>6861015
I don't like this

>> No.6862483

>>6861015
people hated on this but I liked it tbh

>> No.6862497

>>6862483

i thought u wud hate it

it looks really cheesy and look like something from instagram with the tags

#recent purchase # outfitoftheday #rafsimons#fresh#swag

in conclusion it looks really bad

btw dude cna u suggest me some grey wool trousers??

>> No.6862502

>>6862497
In comparison to >>6862475 though, it looks better imo.

>> No.6862506

>>6862497
>it looks really cheesy and look like something from instagram with the tags
I think that's just the photo
the jean fit + wash are dope, makes the fit
>btw dude cna u suggest me some grey wool trousers??
http://www.patrikervell.com/product/detail/pass/1178
also don't forget the patty ss14 show is today!!!

>> No.6862538

>>6862312
dope

>> No.6862559
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6862559

Adidas ObyO x Jeremy Scott Poodle

>> No.6862561

>>6862506

is it really i didnt know please link it when its on make a thread or something

>> No.6862564

>>6862561

will there be live stream

>> No.6862569

>>6862561
I won't be awake for it but nowfashion.com will live stream it

>> No.6862570

>>6862561
http://nowfashion.com/

It's on the schedule. Don't forget to check out the Y-3 show as well.

>> No.6862608

>>6862569

if u were a true fan u would be tho
drink some coffee

>> No.6862646

>>6859605
it's a fucking net with holes for the arms goddamnit

>> No.6862643

>>6859568
post link plox

>> No.6862686

these designers clothes often look worse than mall fashion other than the fact that they dont often have logos plastered everywhere

a $12 t-shirt from american eagle is better than 90% of the stuff you find at these places that charge over $200 for a t-shirt

>> No.6862703

>>6862686
>this is what poorfags actually believe

>> No.6862728

ITT: Anger
People that y-3 have probably only looked at their most gaudy shoes. They sell other pieces of clothing than just fucking qasa's plebs.

>> No.6862732

>>6859297
it's 4chan,ugh some people can't escape the hivemind,an extreme example would be /v/
fashion can be divisive like that tho

>> No.6862832

>>6862287
wait, didnt u buy them?
>>6861015
nicest fit i've seen here in a long while

>> No.6862831

My opinion is this:

As a clothing item based on appearance alone, I find that they're really gawdy, sort of uninspired when it comes to design, and look like some neckbearded magic player would wear them because they were cheap.

As a clothing item based upon what they were actually inspired by and how they're supposed to be viewed and worn, I think they're kinda neat and would probably add a nice splash of color and counterpoint to the Raf monochromatic scheme and the whole of contemporary minimalist fashion.

As a work of art, I think they're actually really fantastic, as they're obviously New Balance or Asics derived but they hold a high price tag and brand name with these muted, sort of corrupted looking color scheme in the way that they look very low contrast and like you're looking at them through a broken CRT TV, like they came from the 80s or 90s but the door that let them through corrupted their color and made them muted and quiet. They're beautiful in that aspect, like how they're total throwbacks but in a broken style.

In short, I would never wear them because I would not find them aesthetically pleasing on my body nor does it fit anything in my wardrobe. I do, however, appreciate what RAF is doing on an artistic and meaningful level and I hope he continues his work.

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>>6862832
I did, I was curious if anyone else did

>> No.6862880

>>6862728
qasa's arent their worst/gaudiest shoe
>>6862866
ozweegoos
nice nice

i'm falling out of love with adidas these days tho

>> No.6862919
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6862919

some of the ugliest fucking shoes I've ever seen. Raf is a nut. Right up there with those sandals he made

>> No.6862938
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>>6862919
What sandals are those?

>> No.6863004

>>6861407
Looks like oversized Tennis Shoes.

>> No.6863014
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6863014

>>6863004
As in shoes made to play tennis.

>> No.6863027
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6863027

>>6862938

>> No.6863035
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>>6862263

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>>6862938
These are so amazingly disgusting I'm getting mad just looking at them. I am in shock why you would even save this picture to repost. As if the name "Raf" can salvage this awful, awful, shame of a design.

>> No.6863048

>>6863036
u mad

>> No.6863063

>>6863036
the design isn't awful?

do u even bauhaus

>> No.6863069

>>6863027
Those r pretty.

>>6863036
U mad, Do u even De Stijl?

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>>6863048
>>6863063
You sicken me. I'm not saying this to be funny either.

I'm actually disgusted by your posts. I feel nauseous.

>> No.6863085

>>6863081
shouldnt u be posting memes on tumblr?

>> No.6863101
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6863101

i think that pic related are the best raf simons shoes

>> No.6863111
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6863111

If Raf Simons designed these you fuckers would be all over them, calling them "genius" and shit

>> No.6863122

>>6863111
>>6863081

please calm down

>> No.6863119

>>6863101
that gundam swag

>> No.6863126

>>6862938
holy fuck those are ass

i don't see why anyone would wear those other than trying to look #nxtlvl and deep

>> No.6863137

I'm pretty sure /fa/ is the only place left that thinks Raf Simons is anything other than absolute shit.

Sure he had some good collections a decade ago, but that was a decade ago. Current Raf is mocked by everyone but /fa/

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6863158

>>6863111
Kobes are great though.

>>6863137
To be honest, i like rafs more colourful recent stuff in comparison to his dark and edgy early stuff.

>> No.6863153

>>6861015
It's weird but I like this.
Could we get a side shot?

>> No.6863160

>>6863137
he has some nice t shirts tho

>> No.6863167

>>6859304
But they just look silly

>> No.6863166

>>6863158
>Kobes are great though.
are you fucking with me

>> No.6863169

>>6863137
a lot of his pieces from ss13 sold out almost instantly

>> No.6863175

>>6859304
you're deluded, they look like shit

>> No.6863186

>>6863175
>>6863167
>>6859344

>Most of the hate is just sour grapes.

toplel

>> No.6863204

>>6863169
sales doesnt correlate to good design,not all the time.
it could be his stuff is more popular now than before.

>> No.6863219

>>6863204
He was just saying it's not just /fa/ that likes him

>> No.6863212

>>6863081
easy there killer

>> No.6863225

>>6863137
>I'm pretty sure /fa/ is the only place left that thinks Raf Simons is anything other than absolute shit.
not quite

>> No.6863299

>>6863158
space core

>> No.6863331

>>6863204
>it could be his stuff is more popular now than before.
which was exactly my point retard, read the post i was responding to

>> No.6863425

>>6863158
fuck those would look so fucking cool as high tops