/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.6626852]

Is Islam the most /fa/ religion?

>mysterious, esoteric beliefs
>jarring, unique architecture
>awesome carpets
>sandals
>silk robes
>most aesthetic written language
>subjugates women
>rigid fashion standards

[Anonymous No.6626859]

Not even close

[Anonymous No.6626856]

is this a mosque or a rick owens exhibit? I can't tell

[Anonymous No.6626858]

Yes. And it's alpha as fuck

[Anonymous No.6626865]

>subjugates women

how about no

[Anonymous No.6626875]

thats not zoroastrianism

[Anonymous No.6626873]

>>6626865
how about yes

[Anonymous No.6626885]

>>6626876
go back to r9k or pol

we like women here

[Anonymous No.6626876]

>>6626873
how about u go away

[Anonymous No.6626878]

>their god married a 3 year old
>raped countless other children

ye OP

[Anonymous No.6626880]

nope

[Anonymous No.6626891]

>>6626878

>their God

Confirmed for knowing zero about Islam.

[Anonymous No.6626894]

>>6626885
i am a woman tho?????

[Anonymous No.6626899]

>>6626865

what, too goth ninja for you?
stay casual, heretic

[Anonymous No.6626907]

>implying you don't want to cuddle up with a qtp2t عربي girl in ur warm cave castle

[Anonymous No.6626914]

>>6626894
post feet

[Anonymous No.6626913]

No because most islamic guys are sweaty hairy fucks. Add to that the fact that their religion has the least /fa/ mindset and you have a recipe for not being very /fa/

[Anonymous No.6626917]

>>6626899
would stone


email

[Anonymous No.6626924]

>>6626899
i have nothing against the niqabs and burqas
i'm just not into the way they view and treat women idk

[Anonymous No.6626929]

>>6626913

>derp most christians fat bc most americans fat

[Anonymous No.6626952]

>>6626929
ive never seen that guy at the kebab stand

[Anonymous No.6626959]

>>6626913
You mirin my chest homie?
Infidels get subjugated on my turf. You just jelly if all that black gold money.

[Anonymous No.6626960]

>>6626952
#rekt

[Anonymous No.6627058]

>>6626878
do u mean prophet m8? and she was like 6

[Anonymous No.6627069]

gnosticism is the /fa/est religion
it's like the 2edgy4u version of christianity

[Anonymous No.6627106]

>>6627069
still too tryhard
religion of not giving a fuck still most /fa/
>what's your religion?
>doesn't concern me

[Anonymous No.6627113]

Is that a joke?

[Anonymous No.6627165]

>>6626924
“As to women, as many, if not more than men, are to be seen in the streets [i.e. going about their daily activities, etc] […] I think I never saw a country where women may enjoy so much liberty, and free from all reproach, as in Turkey [...] The Turks in their conduct towards our sex are an example to all other nations; [...] and I repeat it, sir, I think no women have so much liberty, safe from apprehension, as the Turkish – and I think them in their manner of living, capable of being the happiest creatures breathing.”

- Lady Elizabeth Craven, A Journey Through the Crimea to Constantinople, 1789

[Anonymous No.6627190]

>>6627106
Apatheism? Is that even a word? That's what I am. I don't care.

[Anonymous No.6627204]

>>6627190
i'll be damned
that is a word

[Anonymous No.6627220]

>sandals
>/fa/

[Anonymous No.6627241]

>>6627165
Turkey is an exception among islamic countries.

[Anonymous No.6627250]

>>6627165
>1789

[Anonymous No.6627259]

>>6627165
>1789
>relevant in 2013

give up

[Anonymous No.6627273]

Luciferianism (not Satanism) is probably one of the more /fa/ religions. Pagan worship, particularly worship of Venus/Aphrodite/Isis/Freya, is probably another more /fa/ religion.

However, religion is inherently not fashionable, because the only time to be overzealous or speak with true zealotry is when speaking to support conscience or absolute truth, which are really one in the same. Religion is predominately contradictory to that.

[Anonymous No.6627289]

>>6627273

How's the 8th grade coming along, pal? Were the other kids mean again?

[Anonymous No.6627296]

>>6626852
you wrote least wrong.

dont forget the neckbeard, bombing and beheading. those are fa af. -.-

[Anonymous No.6627298]

>>6627289
Cute.

[Anonymous No.6627304]

>>6627296
>bombing
bombing butthurt amerifats is pretty /fa/, not to mention hilarious

[Anonymous No.6627307]

>>6627298

Don't worry bud, go clean your fedora up and I'll bring you some of those chips and Mountain Dew you like.

[Anonymous No.6627313]

Actual Muslim here, any questions?

For the record, I don't really think true Islam subjugates women, just different roles are set for the two sexes.

[Anonymous No.6627315]

>>6626858

[Anonymous No.6627325]

>>6626852
>rape and behead everything
>shitskins and neckbeards
>fa
pls kill yourself

[Anonymous No.6627323]

>>6627313
>just different roles are set for the two sexes.

thats the fucking problem.

islamic countries are never going to progress if they keep following these ancient ideals.

[Anonymous No.6627331]

>>6627323
Maybe if you researched a bit, you'd understand what I mean.

Men have rights women don't, women have rights men don't.

Some of the rules were made for the Arabs and don't really apply today.

For what it's worth, in Iran more women go to university than men.

[Anonymous No.6627341]

>>6627307
What's with your projected labeling of me? Is it because I mentioned Luciferianism, and you automatically associate that with "edgy athiest redactor"? Anyone who has actually read books is a fedora wearing manchild? Are you really considering what you type before you hit that 'submit' button?

[Anonymous No.6627348]

>>6627307
What's with your projected labeling of me? Is it because I mentioned Luciferianism, and you automatically associate that with "edgy atheist redditor"? Anyone who has actually read books is a fedora wearing manchild? Are you really considering what you type before you hit that 'submit' button?

[Anonymous No.6627347]

>>6627331
>Men have rights women don't, women have rights men don't.

thats even worse.

[Anonymous No.6627352]

I want to be Muslim but my mom keeps making me shave

[Anonymous No.6627351]

>>6627341

"MOOOM, THE KIDS ON /FA/ ARE BEING MEAN TO ME AGAIN"

[Anonymous No.6627361]

>>6627331
>Men have rights women don't, women have rights men don't.
lel. that's perfectly ok right m8?

[Anonymous No.6627366]

>>6627347
>>6627361

>thats even worse.
Why?
Because you think anyone should be anything they think they want to be? Shouldn't there be boundaries to what a person considers of himself?

For example, if a couple gets married, the husband is obligated to share his wealth equally with his wife.
Why shouldn't that be a rule? It's basic morality, in my opinion.

You guys are letting your assumptions and biases get in the way of what's right and wrong.

[Anonymous No.6627371]

>>6627351
Hopefully when you reach adulthood, you'll at the very least comprehend and ideally apply what I said at the end of my original post.

[Anonymous No.6627373]

>>6626885
>we like women here
every heterosexual male likes women. what's your point?

[Anonymous No.6627385]

>>6627373
>I'm being willfully obtuse because fuck you mom and dad

[Anonymous No.6627389]

>>6627371

I hope I grow up to be just as euphoric as you :D :D :D

[Anonymous No.6627388]

>>6627315
I wonder what the reaction to someone farting in this situation would be.

Specifically the reaction of the guy right behind him.

[Anonymous No.6627392]

>>6627366
>For example, if a couple gets married, the husband is obligated to share his wealth equally with his wife. [because the woman should stay at home and take care of the children]

that's some mid 1900's ideals right there m8.

[Anonymous No.6627410]

>>6627392
omg patriarchy, you're as bad as him

[Anonymous No.6627399]

>>6627315
>that kid in a backwards baseball cap in the second row

[Anonymous No.6627404]

>>6627392
Because women aren't better caretakers of children?

Not like we say women have to stay at home, Muhammad's first wife was an active businesswoman.

[Anonymous No.6627422]

>>6627385
my parents are dead

[Anonymous No.6627423]

Is this really a SRS thread?
catpcha: seesto you

[Anonymous No.6627430]

>>6627404
ignorant blanket statements aren't fa, pls go

[Anonymous No.6627428]

>>6627392
/SRS/ please

[Anonymous No.6627431]

>>6627423

Ja

[Anonymous No.6627437]

>>6627371

[Anonymous No.6627436]

>>6627430
You're not willing to have an intellectual discussion about this. I'm done here.

Nowhere did I mean to imply fathers are bad caretakers, nor that fathers can't stay home.

[Anonymous No.6627438]

>>6627404
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2005/jun/15/childrensservices.familyandrelationships

[Anonymous No.6627440]

>>6627430
Notice how they use our language to try and blend in. It's not working

back to le reddit

[Anonymous No.6627443]

>>6627440
Wow, because I'm religious I'm not a /fa/ggot? You're quite the cunt.

>>6627438
see >>6627436

[Anonymous No.6627445]

I find Islam to be the least /fa/ religion. I find all other religions more /fa/.

[Anonymous No.6627448]

>>6627366
>Shouldn't there be boundaries to what a person considers of himself?
nigga r u srs
top kek

[Anonymous No.6627446]

>>6626859
w2c shirt?

Seriously.

[Anonymous No.6627452]

>>6627436

>Nowhere did I mean to imply fathers are bad caretakers
> nor that fathers can't stay home

You should have cause fathers suck as primary care takers.

[Anonymous No.6627460]

>>6627443

plenty of us are religious m80. This is 4chan, not rebbit.

[Anonymous No.6627458]

>>6627446
ktz

[Anonymous No.6627464]

>>6627443
I wasn't talking to you m8

[Anonymous No.6627473]

>>6627388
Farting invalidates wudu, so a really observant Muslim would get up and have to re-do the pre-prayer ritual.

I prayed at a mosque for about a year and I never had some guy have gas in front of me, or at least bad enough to notice. It's funny, too, because the prayer motions often made me feel gassy afterwards.

[Anonymous No.6627474]

>>6627448
Again with misinterpreting my words.

>>6627464
that actually makes me feel kinda good

Thx guys. sorry about the mistake

[Anonymous No.6627485]

>>6627474
>Shouldn't there be boundaries to what a person considers of himself?
How else would you interpret it besides living according to arbitrary roles assigned over time by society then m8?

[Anonymous No.6627488]

>>6627473
>so a really observant Muslim would get up and have to re-do the pre-prayer ritual.
It's pretty embarrassing so most of us don't in the group setting.

[FÆTUS !0h0ffiSW72 No.6627491]

>>6626852
I think a lot of the esoteric beliefs are present in sufism, islam's inner beliefs, it's a much more peaceful religion too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-_DLRUWa1U

[Anonymous No.6627497]

>>6627430
>thinking that's in any way ignorant
Wow, it's pretty sad that there are still people who deny reality this hard. I think it's time to grow up, champ.

[Anonymous No.6627499]

>>6627485
>arbitrary roles
Sure.
I'm not saying shit like "men shouldn't wear shorts" but basic things like men should work and people should cover themselves to an extent. Even if you disagree, I personally think it keeps society more stable.

Then again some of my personal opinions do conflict with the religion but I don't believe because I want to, I do actually think the book is miraculous for when it came out.

[Anonymous No.6627500]

>>6627488
Yeah, that's what I gathered. I went to a very conservative Salafi masjid and I never once saw someone get up during prayer to re-do wudu, and I find that hard to believe that no one farted at some point while I was there.

>tfw white guy Muslim
>tfw so many awkward interactions I had to leave

[Anonymous No.6627506]

>>6627499
That didn't answer my question m8. I asked how else you would interpret it since you're quick to cry that people are putting words in your mouth etc etc, but then you don't provide a diff interpretation.

[Anonymous No.6627510]

>>6627500
It's funny because some Muslims believe if in the group session if one person invalidates his prayer, everyone's is invalidated.

I'm not sure how true that is.

>>6627506
My point was that I think you're assuming the most extreme interpretation of my words when I mean something quite moderate, but you're right, you didn't really put words in my mouth.

[Anonymous No.6627564]

>>6627499
>keeps society more stable.
>>Keeps the plebs in check

[Anonymous No.6627575]

>>6627564
Can I just ask if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me? I can't tell.

[Anonymous No.6627578]

>>6627564
The plebs need to be kept in check.

[Anonymous No.6627589]

>>6627575
Uncle Tom is an insult, he's disagreeing with you.

[Anonymous No.6627599]

>>6627589
I'm not saying to enslave the blacks though, just set moral boundaries for all people. I don't see what's wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.6627615]

Islam is a disease.

[Anonymous No.6627613]

>>6627273

this fuckboy trying to sound intellectual. it's

predominANTly

one AND the same

[Anonymous No.6627620]

>>6627599

Because by assuming societal roles based on our current beliefs, you limit the ability for societal change.

With black people, a rigidly defined social role that is entrenched in a religion means no civil rights movement, no emancipation etc. (though I'm not sure of Islam's view on slavery).

[Anonymous No.6627642]

>>6627620
Alright, you could have a point there, but from the religion's point of view (not mine) the religion is right so there is no need for change.

>(though I'm not sure of Islam's view on slavery)
gradual emancipation and it pretty much worked, I think.

[Anonymous No.6627645]

>>6627615

this is probably the best way to put it

[Anonymous No.6627658]

>>6627642

>but from the religion's point of view

And that's the problem. Not trying to insult you, but no person, divine or otherwise, can write a comprehensive set of rules that can govern a society eternally. Perhaps a set of guidelines could apply, but realistically, what relevance does Islamic teaching have when we can change our sex on demand?

[Anonymous No.6627672]

>>6627313
What should I read to understand the heart of Islam?

[Anonymous No.6627673]

>>6627615
>>6627645
not really
how do you explain baghdad c. 800-1200AD

[Anonymous No.6627688]

>>6627658

>Not trying to insult you, but no person, divine or otherwise, can write a comprehensive set of rules that can govern a society eternally
But no religion has ever tried to do that.

>Perhaps a set of guidelines could apply
This is what religions do, fucboi.

>what relevance does Islamic teaching have when we can change our sex on demand?
You mean pretend to be a different sex, or are you talking about the genetic mutations that have occurred since humanity has strayed from Abrahamic teachings and decided to fuck the environment?
Regardless, less than 0.5% of people are homosexual and less than 0.1% of people are so cursed to have no connection with their sexuality.

tl;dr why can't I become a goat?

[Anonymous No.6627690]

>>6627658
I think some more liberal Muslims (or any religious liberal) think that we should apply the basic moral guidelines to the time period and cite the existence and need for religious scholars at any era to interpret the text for what the current world is like.

There is a somewhat controversial Islamic rule that states that wives must be with a man they know when they go on trips. I don't think (nor any Iranian Muslim) this applies anymore, but in the old days, the Arab world was really unsafe.

Just my two cents.
>>6627673
>how do you explain baghdad c. 800-1200AD
thank you for this. Islam made the arabs make names for themselves. They would have just fought and pissed around much more if Muhamaad didn't stop them.

[Anonymous No.6627703]

>>6627688

>You mean pretend to be a different sex, or are you talking about the genetic mutations that have occurred since humanity has strayed from Abrahamic teachings and decided to fuck the environment?
Regardless, less than 0.5% of people are homosexual and less than 0.1% of people are so cursed to have no connection with their sexuality.
topical world views there, gramps

>>6627690

>There is a somewhat controversial Islamic rule that states that wives must be with a man they know when they go on trips.

But the problem is is that that rule is still in scripture (I assume). Every major religion is bogged down with stupid rules like this, and for all the time we spend worrying about them, we could just be sticking to a set of moral guidelines and leaving the complex business of the law to our governments.

[Anonymous No.6627733]

>>6627688
Are you the other Muslim here? Because I agree with this p much.

>>6627658
> what relevance does Islamic teaching have when we can change our sex on demand?

We should only do it for hermaphrodites, according to scholars. As I said, we have people to study the religion to interpret the current guidelines.

I understand your point of view, it's something I think about a lot. But I try not to worry about it too much. If you meet me in real life, I don't seem particularly religious, I keep it mostly to myself and I think that's how it should be.

I don't really worry about the small rules and just try to be an ethical person (though I fail a lot). I like Islam's theme of being greater than just an animal, by keeping calm, lowering tempers, etc. It can seem quite zen.

Thanks for discussing this with me mang.

[Anonymous No.6627738]

theres no such thing as an /fa/ religion. End of discussion.

[Anonymous No.6627803]

Islam is AOK with Transsexuals, as long as they're straight. Transitioning is seen as a cure for homosexuality. Some governments even pay for it so they can make the claim that "Iran has no homosexuals" .

It's better for a man to live as a woman than as a gay man.

[sage No.6627820]

>>6627190
I don't even care whether I care or not, that's how little I care.

[sage No.6628075]

>>6626859
old men dressed like teenagers

[Anonymous No.6628088]

>>6627733
Could you explain the purpose of the Hadiths? Are new ones being written, or is that whole thing a closed chapter?

[Anonymous No.6628093]

>>6627315
that's the presenting ass to be fucked position. how on earth that doesnt constitute as fa?

[Anonymous No.6628125]

It's a well-established fact that Orthodox Christianity is the most /fa/ religion

[Anonymous No.6628141]

>>6628088
hadiths are just verified stories about the life of the prophet. we're supposed to pick up morals from them.

ie. a bedouin came to the mosque during prayer time and urinated in the corner. the companions of the prophet were gonna beat him up and kick him out when the prophet was like he doesnt know about islam so you should be more peaceful and use this opportunity to educate him.

[Anonymous No.6628162]

>>6626852
>culture = religion

What a grey eminence.

[Anonymous No.6628204]

>>6628141
Ahhhhh... Thank you!

[Anonymous No.6628352]

>>6628141
>the companions of the prophet were gonna beat him up and kick him out

yep. peaceful religion.

[Anonymous No.6628358]

>>6628125
w2c varsity javcket on the right?

[Anonymous No.6628366]

9/11

[Anonymous No.6628403]

>>6627613
english is probably his second language.
he did alright.

[Anonymous No.6629646]

>>6627658
>starting a sentence with and
back to junior high kiddo

[Anonymous No.6629659]

>>6629646
lmao get a load of this guy

[Anonymous No.6631241]

>>6626899
pls be in turkistan

[Anonymous No.6631271]

>>6626852
I'd say Hinduism. Everything you've said, without the whole sandniggers and terrorism deal.

[Anonymous No.6632425]

>>6626907
>warm
>cuddle

you never had gf before are you?

[Anonymous No.6633762]

>>6628358
St. Catherine's Monastery, Mount Sinai, Egypt, $575

[Anonymous No.6634151]

Hinduism is pretty much /fa/ belief system basically allows you to worship however you want. Plus traditional Indian clothing is swag. Most hot girls look even hotter in saris

[Anonymous No.6634169]

Wahabbism is pretty /fa/ too. Imagine declaring a jihad against everyone who doesn't wear rick or raf

[Anonymous No.6634278]

>>6631271
yeah, hinduism has exclusive castes build right into it!

they are usually pretty dirty/smelly tho...

[Anonymous No.6635208]

Is Sikhism /fa/?

[Anonymous No.6635253]

>>6628352
Many of the companions were stupid (at least at first)