/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.6622795]

How does Doc Marten compare to Red Wing as far as a more casual boot?

[Anonymous No.6622807]

>>6622795
some red wings are excellent. most docs looks retarded

i know a lot of /fa/ likes docs, so

[Anonymous No.6622841]

As far as build quality goes the upper level Red Wings are light years ahead of the Docs. People actually put in real manual labor in those boots and swear by them. Docs would probably fall apart in less than a week of real work.

But as far as look goes? That's all personal preference.

[Anonymous No.6622868]

The OG low black docs look fucking sick imo. Although I wore mine without socks and they fucked me up , still can't walk properly.
>tfw walking past people to get on the tube and getting started at
>yeh boyee must b cuz of my sick fit
>sit down
>look at ankles
>why cant i hold all this blood

[ugh !!oPRcR2l32bf No.6622871]

English made docs are dope, the others fucking suck. Size down 1

[Anonymous No.6622985]

>>6622841
>>6622871
Lies..

I've worn my 1460 for lifes every single day for the past three years, and the only thing worn down on them is the heel on the sole, which will be replaced with the life time warranty when it's worn down to the point of discomfort.

Go for the 1460 for life or 1460 mono. Anything else is hipster tier.

[Anonymous No.6623020]

What do you even wear with docs?

[Anonymous No.6623029]

red wings are a slightly better build but are more of a work boot

trey martens are inexpensive and more casual. the difference between the made in england vs. made somewhere else is next to minimal for the price difference

[Anonymous No.6623037]

>>6622795
As to answer your question OP, to me Red Wings kind of work specifically only in workwear, where Docs work more with many other styles, which make them easier to wear. It's cool to roll up and look workwear, but it's also cool when you're feeling tired to throw them on with a white shirt and look working class.

[Anonymous No.6623045]

>>6622841
lel docs falling apart. I had a pair of docs and even after five years they still looked good. Just the heels were worn cause i wore them almost everyday. But a cobbler could replace them easily.

[Anonymous No.6623048]

>>6622871
yeah except fucking wrong
you can look up a review of the two types, english made ones are worse

[Anonymous No.6623049]

>>6622985

What do you do for a living?

[Anonymous No.6623055]

>>6623045
the new docs are ass

[Anonymous No.6623062]

>>6622985
I wash dishes and cycle to work. Lots of grime, a bit of stress in my straps..

If I wanted something for construction, I wouldn't go with either brand.

[Anonymous No.6623067]

>>6623049

I wash dishes and cycle to work. Lots of grime, a bit of stress in my straps..

If I wanted something for construction, I wouldn't go with either brand.

[Anonymous No.6623098]

>>6622985
You think 1460s are the only good DM shoes? Is this a common opinion?

[Anonymous No.6623092]

>>6623067

I think working in construction is slightly more taxing on your footwear than standing in a kitchen and spraying down dishes.

[Anonymous No.6623117]

>>6623098
it's what some people say on /fa/ so take it with a grain of salt

[Anonymous No.6623136]

>>6623092
OP is looking for a casual boot, not something with outstanding build quality..
>>6623098
1460s are the original boot, modeled after the very first docs made in 1960. They aren't the best for everyscenerio.jpg, but anything else isn't going to look classic. Hence, hipster tier.

[Anonymous No.6623150]

>>6622871
Those aren't even English made docs. The leather is the for life texture.

[Anonymous No.6623152]

Buy the Red Wings. They are made in the US not cobbled together by children in Asia.

[Anonymous No.6623168]

>>6623152
That has nothing to do with OP's question.

[Anonymous No.6623181]

Not OP but should I cop these

[Anonymous No.6623182]

>>6623168
Has everything to do with OP's question. Ethically produced goods are usually of superior quality.

[Anonymous No.6623200]

>>6622795
Docs tend to look less casual and more "lol I'm not a hipster I just dress exactly like a hipster" than Red Wings and I've never had a pair of Docs that fit as well as a pair of Red Wings. Red Wings break in in about a week and feel amazing until they fall apart 10 years later. Docs stay stiff until they fall apart 2 years later.

[Anonymous No.6623195]

>>6623152
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.6623203]

>>6623182
>How does Doc Marten compare to Red Wing as far as a more casual boot?

[Anonymous No.6623216]

>>6623195
If you want to buy cheap, buy cheap. But don't pretend you're getting something you're not. Take the savings with the inherent losses.

[Anonymous No.6623227]

[Anonymous No.6623223]

>>6623200
If anything, those who wear Red Wings look like they try too hard.

[Anonymous No.6623238]

yuck

[Anonymous No.6623250]

>>6623216
Implying that because something is cheap that it must be of bad quality is a fallacy.

[Anonymous No.6623284]

[Anonymous No.6623317]

>>6623284
>totally casual

[Anonymous No.6623346]

I got some timberlands myself. not the original yellow bright shitty ones that all teen fuckers wear, but the rustbrown nubuck ones. doc martin doesnt look that bad but they arent real workboots.

[Anonymous No.6623347]

>>6623317

[Anonymous No.6623366]

>>6623250
And yet, it's not what we see in the REAL WORLD, where market forces, material, labor and art weave something entirely distant from the tidy little algorithms they taught you in Econ 2.
When you get to Econ 3, maybe they'll teach you why a global fashion marketplace is not a spreadsheet operating within a vacuum.

Whatever. Enjoy your cheap boots, slave labor and image macros.

[Anonymous No.6623368]

>>6623347

[Anonymous No.6623363]

>>6623346
>martin
I'm too tired to post. sorry effay.

[Anonymous No.6623393]

>>6623368

[Anonymous No.6623411]

>>6623347
that's a cool jacket

[Anonymous No.6623461]

>>6623366
What the hell are you on about? Imported products don't mean that the workers make slave wages. You're a snob.

[Daniel de Nîmes No.6623463]

>>6622841
Lies. Docs are cheap but they're durable as fuck. The sole is insulate and slick proof and lasts incredibly long without wearing down.

Red wings are nicer and traditional and use more expensive materials, but they're not any more durable than docs.


As for 'manual labor' if you're on a job site you need CSA certified footwear. Neither docs nor red wings qualify. Of course no one on /fa/ would know that, because no one here was worked an honest day's work in their life.

[Anonymous No.6623473]

>>6623463
>no one here was worked an honest day's work in their life
Speak for yourself.

[Anonymous No.6623483]

>>6623463

What? Red Wing has a bunch of CSA boots.

http://www.redwingshoes.ca/catalog/1

[Anonymous No.6623496]

>>6623463
nigga please.

[Anonymous No.6623500]

>>6623461
You're right, I'm being an ass. I apologize.
I hate seeing brands get stripped down and sent to China, that's all.

[Anonymous No.6623559]

http://www.dmusastore.com/images/upload/Dr_Martens_Supplier_Code_of_Conduct_1_1.pdf

[Anonymous No.6623726]

>>6623200
i've owned multiple different styles of docs and still have them all in great condition. The Key to breaking in that stiffness is to put on really thick socks, lace them tight and then go jump in some puddles, go for a walk in the rain come home take off and dry naturally over night...presto

[Anonymous No.6623730]

Anyone tried Solovair?
Apparently they're made at the old Doc Martin factory in England using the same materials and equipment that was originally used for making DM's before they decided to outsource to Asia.

I have a pair of Thai made DM's.
Meh, they're okay, and have held up despite the abuse.

But I've always said that I wouldn't buy anymore DM's, english make or no, and try the Solovairs.

[Anonymous No.6623822]

>>6623223
Red Wings are pretty unarguably more casual looking. Docs have that stupid tab on the back and shit.

[Anonymous No.6623947]

>>6623822
>Docs have that stupid tab on the back and shit.
I found the tab to be useful.
Red wings on the other hand were more difficult to pull on due to the lack of the tab.

[ugh !!oPRcR2l32bf No.6624410]

>>6623048
I have English ones and 3 of my friends have the Asian ones. The leather on mine is much softer and like twice as thick. They have different soles and break in faster.
>>6623150
Yeah they are, I can take pictures if you want

[Anonymous No.6624434]

Are the Alfies or Tobias any good?

[Anonymous No.6624437]

>>6623822
You can also tuck it in, pin it, or cut it off..

Look at this plain tab..

[Anonymous No.6624465]

>>6623200
>>6622841
Have never owned docs.

[Anonymous No.6624501]

I've never owned Docs before but I will say that I am happy with my Red Wing boots. The design, construction, and quality of the Iron Ranger boot that I have is great.

[Anonymous No.6624533]

>>6624410
My for lifes look like the exact same texture. I made the decision to purchase them after trying on the 1460, 1460 for lifes, and 1460 vintages, IN PERSON AT THE DOC MARTINS RETAIL STORE, and I found that the For Lifes were the most comfortable, would do what little breaking in they had to do the most quickly, AND HAD A WARRANTY FOR LIFE. You can see online that each boot uses a completely different leather looking closely online.. Furthermore the soles are the exact same!

I don't care for a much thicker tougher leather.. Soft leather won't crinkle in and solidify over time, and weighs much less. There is absolutely no need for that extra durability when you weigh out the pros and cons. Vintages (a.k.a made in England) are nothing more than a crappy sales tactic. The decision is obvious.

[Anonymous No.6624536]

>>6623216
>implying because something is inexpensive, it's being made by asian children
>implying that something inexpensive is inherently cheap
>implying i lose sleep over asians working in sweatshops

[Anonymous No.6624545]

>>6624410
My for lifes look like the exact same texture. I made the decision to purchase them after trying on the 1460, 1460 for lifes, and 1460 vintages, IN PERSON AT THE DOC MARTINS RETAIL STORE, and I found that the For Lifes were the most comfortable, would do what little breaking in they had to do the most quickly, AND HAD A WARRANTY FOR LIFE. You can see that the for lifes have a completely different leather looking closely online..

BTW the soles are the exact same!

I don't care for a much thicker tougher leather.. Soft leather won't crinkle in and solidify over time, and weighs much less. There is absolutely no need for that extra durability when you weigh out the pros and cons. Vintages (a.k.a made in England) are nothing more than a crappy sales tactic. The decision is obvious.

[ugh !!oPRcR2l32bf No.6624623]

>>6624545
They look like that because there was a fresh coat of mink oil when I took that picture. The bottom of the sole is different, and as long as I take care of them the leather will stay soft.

[Anonymous No.6624648]

>>6623483
so does doc martens but i don't think that OP wants any of them

the red wings CSA boots are ugly af, like every other CSA approved boot

[Anonymous No.6624662]

>>6623223
model of boot in this please???

[Anonymous No.6624658]

>>6624623
When your sole wears out, you'll pay a cobbler. When my sole wears out, I'll get free repairs.
Your shoes weigh more.
Your soles don't aid in breaking in.
I could have soles like yours if I went to a cobbler.
You payed $50 more than I to say your boots are made in England.

[Anonymous No.6624664]

>>6624623
And your laces are gay.

[Anonymous No.6624677]

>>6624662
Probably these.
http://www.dmusastore.com/p-95-1919.aspx

[Anonymous No.6624688]

>>6624434
I have some plimsolls for work which are presumably made of all the same materials and they're pretty comfy

the canvas is holding up ok but it's just canvas and I'm not expecting a lot from it

[Anonymous No.6624690]

>>6622841
This

It's a COMPLETELY different style, too, really can't be compared the way you can compare Red Wing and Chippewa or Visvim

[Anonymous No.6624711]

>>6624677
thx a bunch really need to cop some boots

[ugh !!oPRcR2l32bf No.6624714]

>>6624664
>>6624658
The extra weight is unnoticeable so fuck you. I'm not some poor nigger who has to wear the same shoes everyday and beats them to fuck. I have too many shoes to ever wear a pair out.

[Anonymous No.6624740]

>>6624714
A gentleman can admit he is wrong. You're nothing more than a butthurt poser and everybody here knows it.

[Anonymous No.6624773]

Red Wing is light years ahead in terms of quality. Aesthetics, that is subjective, but you must be kidding yourself if you think Doc Martens can hold a candle to either the harness leathers or featherstone leathers used in the construction of their mainline heritage boots.

I'm not saying Docs are bad. They're a good budget boot if you like the aesthetic. They're just not in the same tier of materials or construction as RWs.

[ugh !!oPRcR2l32bf No.6624777]

>>6624740
Lol, posing for what?

[Anonymous No.6624837]

>>6624777
Let me clear this up for you.

>The extra weight is unnoticeable so fuck you.
My other points still make you look like a fool.

>I'm not some poor nigger who has to wear the same shoes everyday and beats them to fuck.
And that makes your made in Englands better how? I choose to wear my boots everyday because I love them, and at this point in my life saving money contributes more to my success than having a closet full of expensive shoes and boots.

>I have too many shoes to ever wear a pair out.
And you're calling me a nigger?

[Anonymous No.6624900]

>>6624837
#rekt
#shotsfired

[Anonymous No.6624911]

>>6624837
he likes dopechef too
lmao

[Anonymous No.6624910]

http://www.dmusastore.com/p-2944-pier.aspx
copped this a week ago
did i do good, /fa/?

[Anonymous No.6624937]

>>6624910
nope.

[Anonymous No.6624949]

>>6624937

[Anonymous No.6624968]

>>6624937
>>6624949
ok. i take that back. my initial reaction was "hmmmm... 7/10?"
idk. id have to see them in person, or a pic you wearing them. i just dont really like docs that much.
in my experience, its mostly outcast girls that wear them. that was the case in my highschool anyways, and i havent seen them much outside of there.

oh and 60's british people. i first heard about docs in a who song years ago.

[Anonymous No.6624976]

>>6624910
those are fucking hideous

you'll look like a jobless neo-hippie

[Anonymous No.6624981]

>>6624968
probably not gonna post pics tonight, already in bed and don't really want to lace them up
i will admit, the website has some weird shine on the toe of the boot that's not there on my pair

[Anonymous No.6624988]

>>6624981
that was thing i disliked the most. my next problem is the awkward transiton between the laces on the uppers and lowers. what do you call that kind of... lace... attacher...? anyways?

[Anonymous No.6624989]

>>6624976
I don't think you know what a hippie is.

[Anonymous No.6624987]

>>6624976
that's the look i'm going for though :)

[Anonymous No.6624996]

>>6624988
it's a little awkward, but i think i could just do a wrap or two and bypass all the extra eyelets if i'm lazy

[Anonymous No.6624997]

i want to get a more "fancy" shoe. it would be mostly for casual wear. im thinking a brown brogue, similar to a pair of dress boots i have, or derbies. which do you guys prefer?

[Anonymous No.6624999]

>>6624997
brogues are pretty solid

[Anonymous No.6625012]

>>6624648
Why is this?

srsly, at least one decent model would be nice. Being a waiter, I can't help but feel my shoes should be an integral part of my uniform but everyone in each catalog looks like shit.

[Anonymous No.6625009]

>>6624999
its pretty much this but dark brown, and i have them up to a nice high polish. id post a pic but theyre at my moms house, waiting for the cooler weather.

[Anonymous No.6625015]

>>6625009
allen edmonds?

[Anonymous No.6625020]

>>6625015
idk what the pic is, got it off google a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.6625031]

>>6625020
found it. the pic is brooklyn circus. ive never heard of it.

[Anonymous No.6625082]

>>6625012
if you need CSA certified boots to wait tables then you must work at a terrifying restaurant

[Anonymous No.6625500]

>>6622871
damn they look fresh with those laces, should've blacked out the stitching though, doesn't work that well with those laces.

[Anonymous No.6625869]

Any love for Cherry Red?

[Anonymous No.6627617]

>>6623822
seriously?? I hope RW start to have them on their boots. it's annoying af putting boots on without them.

on the other hand, hhnnnngggg-ing hard on this.

[Anonymous No.6629291]

>>6623730
I really want to try Solovairs, but their online store is out of stock and the only other places in the US don't carry my size.

[Anonymous No.6629310]

>>6625869
Managed to pick up a pair of cherry red 1460s on eBay for £16.50 including postage yesterday. Best moment of the month so far.

[Anonymous No.6629325]

>>6623037
>that fit
>workwear

dude, no. there's workwear IN it, but that is not a good example of workwear.

[Anonymous No.6629542]

w2c these boots

[Anonymous No.6629544]

>>6629542
wed wing iurn wangors

[Anonymous No.6629553]

>>6629544
>wed wing iurn wangors

gave me a chuckle and delivered

ty anon

[Anonymous No.6629595]

Shelly's Rangers are clearly the best boot.
>tfw no one wants to mess with me when i wear them because they know Shelly's break bones

[Anonymous No.6629612]

>>6622871

Docs a shit tier, fucking pleb. Who the fuck are you? don't trip, fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.6629628]

[Daniel de Nîmes No.6629630]

>>6625082
lol

[Anonymous No.6629643]

>summer 2013
>not wearing dayton dog masters

[Anonymous No.6629653]

>>6629595
Those are nice

[Anonymous No.6629671]

i used to lean very strongly towards standard dark brown boots but now im starting to think they look much better if they're all black like classic doc martens

what do u think /fa/ black or brown

[Anonymous No.6629968]

>>6629310
Well done.
That's one heck of a steal.

[Anonymous No.6629981]

>>6629671
Black is too military/police or some faggot try hard that wants that look.

Brown, dark brown, much more casual IMO.

Lightbrown makes me think of some kind of contractor or workman. But then again, they probably wouldn't have nice boots.

[Anonymous No.6630270]

my sister got a pair of near mint english ones at goodwill for $15
needless to say I was jealous as fuck

[Anonymous No.6631113]

>>6630270
Well, you know what to do then, right?

>kill her
>take boots

[Anonymous No.6631187]

>>6631113

>killing for docs
ISHYGDDT

plebs everywere, what the fuck? now a good amount of /fa/ggets likes nikes and docs.

[Anonymous No.6632229]

>>6631187
>complains about changing fashions
>posts on a fashion-related board

I SHIGGY WIGGY WOOBAA