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>become somewhat /fa/
>suddendly, older women take interest in me (I'm mid 20s, they are 35-45
>befriend a few, find them 100x more interesting than girls my age/younger.

is dating older women /fa/?

>> No.6611321

anything can be cool but yearning for approval on a japanese cartoon forum will never be cool

>> No.6611338

>He who wants to come to his love late, earns a valuable prize, if he'll only wait

When I bust out of cocoon mode, I'm going for an older lady with money

>> No.6611355
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Dude, girls get a brain and personality after they hit 27 and never before.

So, yeah, older women ftw.

Enjoy.

>> No.6611363

>>6611308
Just don't marry them.

>> No.6611367

>>6611308
Older women are single for a reason.

>> No.6611373

>>6611308
Older women are hard to read like when it comes to finding out if they have a partner with the younger ones you can tell because they dress sort of sloppy when out or are always texting on their phones but the older ones do not do that for the most part. How do I tell if I should make a move on a mature woman?

>> No.6611380

>>6611373
If she looks good, make a move

Also your young women logic is off

>> No.6611382

>>6611308
i feel you. i was casually dating a 33 year old a while back and it was really great. intelligence wise she didn't seem any different from most girls, but she was a lot more direct and less secretive than girls my age.

but you have to understand sexual market value AKA biological clocks (it is a real thing, if you research it). when a woman hits 30, usually it's a guarantee she is desperate to get married. even if she says she isn't interested, she usually is. So of course they are going to be more "cooperative" and open to you, because they don't want to start drama the same way younger girls do.

I wouldn't date an older woman again, tbh, for a lot of reasons, but it was definitely a good experience with no real negatives.

>> No.6611392

>>6611380
c-can you pls educate me?

>> No.6611471

>>6611392
you can't tell when a girl has a boyfriend, unless she tells you.
you say you know they have a boyfriend because they dress sloppy and are always texting. you just described a huge majority of girls in general.

just because a girl is talking to a guy a lot doesn't mean she's dating, or even interested in him.

you ever heard of the friendzone? that would be the guys she's talking to.
it doesn't matter if she's single, because if she's interested in you she'll hide it, or make up an excuse like "we're on a break."
I know because this happened to me just a few nights ago.

i probably shouldn't have my trip on for this, but whatever. i never take it off, just like my purity ring.

>> No.6611483

>>6611471
what if she sees you go into the restroom and sucks and strokes your cock (using two hands) like no tomorrow. does she have a bf then?
keep in mind she does let you cum in her mouth

>> No.6611485

>>6611367
yea and this is true too.

if you want to hook up with them, it's only natural, but to consider getting exclusive and serious with a girl that much older than you is a bad idea.

>> No.6611499

>>6611483
i know that's a joke question, but honestly you still wouldn't know if she has a boyfriend.

i know so many female posters and white knights will argue this until their deaths, but the truth is, girls often know their next partner before leaving their current one.

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>>6611308
benjamin franklin advised young men to slam older females:


>more knowledgable
>their looks have started to fade so they're more humble
>harder to impregnate
>less drama
>if you turn the lights off when you fuck you can hardly tell the difference
>you're doing a service to an lonely older woman

http://readytogoebooks.com/BF28.htm

>> No.6611539

Do older women care if you're a broke ass?
or do they follow their younger sisters modus operandi:
>You might be able to pull you a rapper, a NBA player Man, at least a dude with a car!

>> No.6611541

>>6611517
it's true. i had a lot of fun with this girl, and since she's 33 and not married she had fun showing all her friends her cool new BF.
she didn't ask a lot of questions, and didn't trip about hardly anything. actually the only thing that bothered her was her not being able to come to my place (no car because she lived in SF), but to me that was only a positive.

>> No.6611544

>>6611308
w-what if you fall i-in l-l-love <3?

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>>6611539
>tfw 2004 was nine years ago

>> No.6611564

>>6611560
>tfw next year it will be ten years ago

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>>6611564

>> No.6611597

>>6611560
how old are you?
i just turned 21

>> No.6611608

>>6611471
>implying friendzone is a thing

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>>6611597
69

>> No.6611615

>>6611355
this is not true. From what I've seen people largely remain the same. If you were boring and self absorbed to begin with, you'll be the same way later. Girls who were dull goldiggers with ticklists become dull women with ticklist
I'm 32

>> No.6611621

>>6611597
>watching the videos on mtv half asleep waiting to leave for school

>> No.6611626

>>6611608
i have never been friend zoned, i think i might have been close but I just stopped talking to that bitch lol, how do guys even stay in those types of pseudorelationships

>> No.6611634

>>6611615

are you a grill?

>> No.6611636

>>6611608
i believe that the friendzone is a thing if you let it be. obviously you shouldn't, but guys do.
the friendzone implies a one sided friendship with a girl where the guy thinks eventually the attention he gives will lead to more than friendship.

it's also called "male orbiters" if you don't like the term friendzone.

>> No.6611648

>>6611634
I can be anything you want me to be

>> No.6611649

>>6611626
>how do guys even stay in those types of pseudorelationships
they believe that it will pay off.
they see a girl giving them attention as a sign of interest, and believe eventually she'll fall for him.

guys tend to think being friends with a girl first is the best way to get her as girlfriend, but that's not the case. that's actually counterproductive most of the time.

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>>6611621
>tfw high school was fun
>lots of friends
>qts
>my body
what happened?

>> No.6611656

>>6611648
>juvenile answer
confirmed female

>> No.6611665
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My last girlfriend was 40, but she passed for late 20's all the time.
Some aspects of the relationship were refreshing - there was an openness and the sense of being beyond the childish games of youth. She was very street smart and called me on my bullshit.
She was too bitter, though. Too tired of the world, too over everything. The whole concept of sexual market value also poisoned the experience for me, I feel like she was more about locking down a long-term partner, but driven to find one more because she was afraid of being alone than she desired a true human connection.
There may have also been a big cultural difference. She was an old school Hong Kong girl - She told me she'd never seen her parents express physical affection for each other once. I didn't believe it myself until her sisters confirmed it, and added that he never hugged them, either. There seemed to be a real emphasis placed on keeping a cool facade at all times, even when you're dying on the inside. Me, I let my emotions carry me away when they get too strong. I suppose it's immature but it feels better.

I'm rambling, I know.

I guess what I'd leave you with, OP, is that there are plenty of women out there who are objectively beautiful well into their forties and personal connection will always heighten that. You are a fresh young thing to them and it's pretty great to be an object of desire for once.
But at the same time, it's easy to fall in with someone who's been living wrong for far too long. We tend to assume that people figure it out when they get older, but that's not what I've seen. A lot of people just fuck up and never come back; their lives become a knotted burl of missteps, confusion and little bad choices that always add up to failure at the end of the day.
It's really easy to get hooked on someone whose approach to life is just wrong, and before you know it their bad habits are yours. Their age or experience might even have you convinced that they've got all the answers.

>> No.6611666

>>6611615
yea it's not so much that they get brain and personality, they just know how to use it better.
the whole time i was with this 33 year old, i was surprised at how cool and chill she was, but i knew that her brain was working the same way it did when she was younger.

>> No.6611667

>>6611649
I think it's the other way, that girls put importance on first impressions and 'butterflies'

>> No.6611671

>>6611665
how tall was she?

>> No.6611675

>>6611665
>he never hugged them, either. There seemed to be a real emphasis placed on keeping a cool facade at all times, even when you're dying on the inside. Me, I let my emotions carry me away when they get too strong. I suppose it's immature but it feels better.
Sounds familiar

>> No.6611678

older women are usually moms so dad core fits in so much better
i work a shitty retail job and see a fair share of cute girls (ive actually gotten numbers while working i'm decently handsome and talkative) but there are DEF some moms i would tap to shreds
i've never really liked most girls my age, always the ones who were a lot more mature. i guess cause i've always tried to be more mature

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>>6611665

normally i like you poet, but that post was fucking gay

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>tfw no job because going to Uni this fall (and a good one at that)
>tried to get a job anyway, not even fuckin mcdonald's wanted me
>tfw spending grad money on grails
>dad and mom mad as fuck at me
>Dad says shit that makes me really sad, calling me a deadbeat, lazy, uninspired, ungrateful, all behind my back
>this will be my last memories of living at home: nobody wants me there

doesn't help that I'm on accutane, getting depressed man 8(

help

>> No.6611688

>>6611665
>>asian women
Never
>>oldschool hongkong
no man will ever be good enough for her

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>>6611665

>We tend to assume that people figure it out when they get older, but that's not what I've seen

>> No.6611708

>>6611684
Join the Navy.

>> No.6611716

>>6611684
Without you as a presence, as a focus, as a 'thing that needs fixing', your parents may very well slip into some form of anxiety or anhedonia.
Their entire social structure is about to be rearranged, and now they'll be stuck staring at each other without your problems to distract them.
It's not an unheard of situation, tensions always run high when a new chapter is beginning.

>> No.6611734

>>6611665
>She was very street smart and called me on my bullshit.
yep. i really liked this. she called me on bullshit, but at the same she liked that i was young, and still able to "handle" her. i thought it was really cute when she'd try to seem up to date with fads by proudly saying she goes on membase like i'd be impressed.

>The whole concept of sexual market value also poisoned the experience for me, I feel like she was more about locking down a long-term partner, but driven to find one more because she was afraid of being alone than she desired a true human connection.
this is the reality. i felt the same way. i was never 100% sure if she was as into me as she acted, or if she just acted that way because she wanted to keep me. i guess it's irrelevant, since it's the same thing essentially. But this is the major reason she broke up with me, she wanted someone who would settle down, and come on, i'm 23 and she wasn't even my exclusive GF.

>it's easy to fall in love with someone who's been living wrong for far too long.
really just
>it's easy to fall in love
it's true. i believe guys "fall in love" way easier, and in a different way. once you have feelings for a girl, it's pretty hard to lose them. girls can move on a lot easier, once they find another guy.

good fucking post man.
very insightful.

>>6611683
it was honest, and real.

>> No.6611729

>>6611716
>tensions always run high when a new chapter is beginning
ain't that the truth

>> No.6611751

>>6611711
man, thats something that i've been thinking about a lot lately
as a kid I always assumed I would just experience an epiphany and pow I'd be alright and on track, know what to do and shit.
but here I am, 21 years old and I'm realizing everything really needs to be worked at

>> No.6611761

>>6611716
also consider this. i bet that a huge majority of your parents social circle was created by you. directly, by them being your friends parents, or indirectly, by meeting someone on their own in a situation that you forced them into (ie: going to your baseball game)

tldr: they will have no friends when you leave.

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This thread is surprisingly good.

A toast! To this thread!

>> No.6611786

>>6611751
probably my biggest fear is the truth of the expression "like father like son"
i know for sure i'll be a much better man than my dad, but seeing his traits come out in my personality scares me.

i saw a study about kids who were adopted as babies, and even though they never met their birth parent's they usually ended up having the same hand gestures and mannerisms as them.

>> No.6611825

>>6611751
I've been having insanely bad experiences lately
(the last 4 times I want out, I literally got into 2 fights and was arrested twice)

I'm just hoping with endless hope that this is the darkness before the dawn or something

>> No.6611826

im gonna off myself at 23 #foreveryoung

>> No.6611834

>>6611665
>We tend to assume that people figure it out when they get older, but that's not what I've seen. A lot of people just fuck up and never come back; their lives become a knotted burl of missteps, confusion and little bad choices that always add up to failure at the end of the day.

Just posting to underline this. Scariest truth in the world, or rather scariest thing on the layer one up from the mortality that seals the door on fixing it.

>> No.6611865

>>6611734
Not having a cycle of 5, listing top spot #1 fuck buddy in your cycle as an emergency contact as well.

>> No.6611896

>>6611665
You had me convinced, i was immensely sad when i saw what happened a few days ago.

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>>6611751
>everything really needs to be worked at

Also underlining this. Everything good about life is work - potentially joyous, infinitely gratifying work - or decay. And don't think "job" at "work." There's something fundamentally easy about washing tables or convincing randoms to buy shit. The hard part is doing it day after day, knowing your life could be used for something more valuable: work.

"He not busy being born is busy dying."

>> No.6611913

>>6611826
>not having a well planned out savings ir investment, disposable to purposefully throw everything out the window and start fresh in another country

Or just sell your car, property, clothes, soul and restart with another name

>> No.6611959

>>6611665
Post of the week imo
>It's really easy to get hooked on someone whose approach to life is just wrong, and before you know it their bad habits are yours

I'm this guy
>>6611825
I've seen it with a girl I like. i see likes me more when I have my outbursts and start to have her own outbursts (throwing the tip jar when a waitress flirted with me)

So I guess being fuck up is a good thing? It doesn't feel good
There has to be a middle ground

>> No.6611983

>>6611959
fightt club. thats what you need.

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>>6611959
slav meters are going off the charts

>> No.6612035

>>6612003
Didn't think slavs were self reflective. I live in northern california

>> No.6612102

>>6611471
>because if she's interested in you she'll hide it, or make up an excuse like "we're on a break."

i dont get it

>> No.6612189

>>6611959
i just read an article about this today. here's an excerpt. thoughts?

Lets dig a little deeper here – what makes this break in routine so appealing to women’s psyches? You can of course argue that it’s outburst of feral Alpha that sparka ‘gina tingle, and that’s definitely a visceral effect, but what drives that glandular response is the prompt of indignation. Women live in a quandary when it comes to security. On an evolutionary level, the security impulse is a primary directive. Long term provisioning, parental investment and the innate understanding of the rigors of hypergamy and it’s relation to breeding make ‘security seeking’ a woman’s primary impulse. This isn’t to discount the influence of other impulses – sex being the next in order – however, herein lies the problem; the very cues that fire a woman’s sexual triggers are the same that conflict with her security needs.

>> No.6612229

>>6612102
if she is interested in you, she'll hide the fact that she has a BF or make up an excuse like they are on a break.

>> No.6612319

>>6612189
I agree. It makes her feel a lack of security and a need to seek it. You become the person that makes her feel both scared and secure

I noticed 2 things
1. she is going to forgive you shortly after, and the forgiveness is always intimate
2. it's like gamblingl you show her your good side and bad side randomly, it makes her want to gamble for that good side

>>6612229
That's why I think asking if she has a bf in the first place is always the wrong way to go. It's like you're trying to make her feel bad for talking to you

I was the guy he was originally replying to. I agree with your post
lol at the purity ring

>> No.6612674

>>6611896
Everybody fucks up sometimes, anon.

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>>6612674
It happens to me more often than not, we're all going to make it.