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6556106 No.6556106 [Reply] [Original]

Alright guys, I have a question about Raw Denim. What is so great about raw denim. I see people talk about it all the time. What are the benefits of having raw denim? Drawbacks? Just curious because I need new jeans right now and I thought this would be a good question. Don't hate me for not knowing. ;_;


Which leads me into another question. Which brand of raw denim is the best quality for your money? That is, it's affordable but has good quality.

>> No.6556116

>>6556106
It conforms to your body. The fades will be unique. It's a pain to wash. N&F or Nudie is a good entry level brand.

>> No.6556124

reddit probably has a sidebar thing on this
sufu and styleforum and every place ever probably has a sticky on this

we have another thread up right now about this

>>6555744

>> No.6556133

>>6556116
can you just fuck off please

>> No.6556139

>>6556133
wow #rude

>> No.6556171

>>6556106
raw denim isn't nearly as big a thing as it was say a year ago

>> No.6556177
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reddit.com/r/rawdenim

I like it because its cool to make your own fades.

some entry level brands are probably Naked & famous, Gustin, and likely the cheapest TheUnbrandedBrand.

I don't really know your price range but those are probably your best bet because you are more likely to ruin your first pair. Not that its common to do so or anything.

This is probably going to be my next buy, however you'll notice its not selvedge.

http://www.3sixteen.com/collections/featured/products/st-211-slim-tapered-overdyed-black-denim

>pic is Naked and famous Elephant 2. Not sure how long it took them to get like that

>> No.6556178

k here's the most succinct post on raw denim ever

been wearing nothing but jawnz for like 5 years, been through nudie apc n&f samurai flathead etc

basically the concept is you're buying jeans not for the branding but for the actual integrity of the fabric of the jeans, most selvedge denim is made on old shuttle looms, basically what levis used in the early days when quality was a thing and mass producing wasn't

you're not paying for stupid ass washes and distressing which goes against the idea of jeans- having something that stands up to wear

so basically you get a pair of jeans, a blank slate of rough starchy cotton that you see as a project - from the moment you put them on they begin conforming to your body, stretching in certain areas, fitting you "better" than a normal pair of factory cut denim would.

they fade to your lifestyle, they get marked and ripped as time goes on, and you kind of just make memories in them since they're always on you no matter what you're doing and you wear them for years at a time.

quality is normally much higher and akin to how jeans used to be made - selvedge lines (meaning jeans are cut and sewn from a higher quality cloth instead of industrially stitched up from mass produced cotton), better stitching quality, more rivets, thicker belt loops, you name it.

best starter raw denim if you're just interested in trying some out - unbranded. sub $100, good denim quality, shitty dye job, will fade fast and give you an idea what to expect. naked and famous are a step up but you might get overwhelmed with the sheer amount of selection. wouldn't recommend APC's for the denim or the fade potential but the cuts are the best.... anything $250-350+ is probably a more obscure japanese brand with a cult following and you don't need to worry about that right now.

hope this helps

>> No.6556219

>>6556178
Really good. Thanks for that!

>> No.6556241

Holy shit, all these posts were incredibly helpful. Thank you all! Probably going to be picking some unbranded ones soon.

I used to think 60 dollar jeans were expensive. Ha. I can spend as much as I want right now since I have a bit of cash saved up but 100 dollar price range is what I'm aiming for, for right now. It is okay if I get them from urbanoutfitters or should I get them straight from the website?

>> No.6556259

fake pre-faded jeans are cheesy as hell

get raws and wear them as normal. don't fuss about getting fades, but don't ever buy pre-faded jeans.

>> No.6556269

>>6556171
so pre-faded jeans are back? maybe for college jocks

>> No.6556277

>>6556178
nudie has most diverse cuts mah du. apc's overpriced relative to competitors.
>most succinct post
>not mentioning washing
height haha

>> No.6556285

>>6556241

there's no difference between the one on the UO site and the actual site at all. take a pair of jeans that fits you well (read- comfortably without a belt) and lay them flat on the ground, take a tape measure or ruler and see how wide the waist is.

now, there's two cuts for unbranded- skinny and tapered. if you have skinny legs, go for skinny and either get the size you measured on your jeans, or go down 1 to the size below it.

if you have muscular or just slightly bigger thighs, or you don't want skinny jeans, get the tapered- just size down either 1 or 2 from the size you measured.

the jeans will be slightly tight when you get them, but they'll stretch out within a week or three depending on how much you wear them, and should fit you perfectly after that.

>> No.6556283

If I just want a good pair of jeans but don't give a shit about fades can I just was raws normally?

>> No.6556293

>>6556277
Yeah, Nudies offers better cuts, imo. I've found a much better fit with them than I have even at higher pricepoints.

>> No.6556291

>>6556259

Badly done washes are lame. There are plenty of brands that do awesome interesting washes and colors; it's just much less common and usually not available at lower price points because of the amount of extra work that is required to get it right.

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>>6556259

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>>6556241
urban outfitters? like, in store?

if so the selection might be poor but you will be sure about your fit.

you should also look into finding your sizing before ordering online.

get a fabric tape measure or something, and also, don't forget that raw denim will stretch since you aren't washing them much so maybe consider sizing down on the waist. dont size down anywhere else though, if the thighs are too tight it isn't going to stretch much.

look up how much they stretch and compare the jean sizing to your own.

there is a chart at the botton of the webpage
http://theunbrandedbrand.com/products/ub121-skinny-fit-heavyweight-21oz-indigo-selvedge

note that, the particular pair of jeans in the link is very thick. 21oz can get hot in the summer.

>> No.6556310

>>6556283
washing them constantly will make the color will bleed out and they will no longer be dark

>> No.6556326

>>6556302

I'll probably try them on instore to check the sizing.

Oh, hey, will the jeans rub off on white or light colored shoes?

>> No.6556323

>>6556277

zzz didn't say anything about washing because I don't wash my jeans according to a cycle

to the OP, there's absolutely nothing wrong with washing your jeans often (read-monthly-bimonthly), just know that you won't get as contrasty fades or changes in the color tones of the denim, instead the jeans will just lose color all over each wash. usually people hold out 6 months before their first wash, but that's not a hard rule since a lot of people wear their jeans differently (think about skateboarding in them every day vs. taking the bus to campus and sitting through a couple of classes every day and then coming home and taking them off.)

basically you should wash them when you see color change, because the wash will accentuate what you already have - it won't make fades magically appear if there are none to start with. I wear my jeans hard and don't have a problem holding out 8-10 months before first wash, and then washing them maybe 2-5 times in the next year or so. after the first wash, the next ones are significantly less important - do it whenever you want, or when they're dirty or smell too bad.

>> No.6556336

>>6556326
yes. for the first couple months your shoes will get stained. invest in a beater pair of vans or something similar.

or you could duct tape the inside of your pant leg where your ankle is if you're so inclined

>> No.6556343

>>6556326
yeah it can

some people embrace it, and think it looks cool though

>> No.6556345

>>6556178
>wouldn't recommend APC
then what would you recommend $100-$250

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>>6556343

>> No.6556351

>>6556241
get united dry stock jeans

>> No.6556356

>>6556347

:(

>> No.6556367

>>6556177
luvvin' dat outseam fade

>> No.6556364

>>6556356
what kind of shoes do you have?

>> No.6556375

>>6556364

Well, I was going to use some white converse to go with the jeans but I guess not anymore.

>> No.6556382

>>6556345

as far as denim quality goes, in my personal experience n&f have lasted way longer than anything sub $200. my n&f got zero holes in a year and a half, and my apc's fell apart, not to mention that they feel like thick construction paper on your legs after you wash them for the first time considering they're basically a starch-denim-starch sandwich. and that was 2 years ago since I retired mine and they've since gone up in price from $135 to $185+ for the same if not worse quality. ridiculous.

nudies are just hypebeast raw denim imo, can't stand the obnoxious orange stitching everywhere and the denim weight is super thin, you're just asking to run through those. I can't justify the prices, but the cuts are great - I tried on a pair of thin finn's in store once and they fit beautifully, I can't argue with that. they were my first pair of raws but definitely not the best I've had.


once you get over 200 you can probably find a pair of pbj's, sams, or flatheads on sufu for $200-250 if you're lucky enough to find a pair in your size...

all of this said I'm sitting at my computer wearing a pair of black petit standards that I use to relax and run errands in so I mean take what you will from my opinion (got em for $60, can't say no to that)

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6556396

>>6556375
like, you guess you aren't getting a pair of raws?

You should still. the pair in the pic probably took fucking forever to get like that.

>> No.6556391

>>6556302
I'm looking at their site and how do they measure upper thigh? I might be retarded but those thigh sizes seem incredibly small.

>> No.6556410

>>6556178

that's a good description but selvage lines are not indicative of any quality. any fabric has selvage ends, meaning the top and bottom of a bolt of fabric are finished. making jeans with selvage lines on the outside seam is easy. it just means a slightly less efficient way of laying out pattern pieces must be employed.

>> No.6556406

how do i know if i like skinny fit or not? can i just go try on a pair of skinny levis and use that . . i cant try on the jeans mentioned in this thread since they dont sell them in stores where i live

>> No.6556418

>>6556406
>know measurements
>read measurements
>maybe read stikcky????

>> No.6556425

>>6556418
well i know measurements im speaking of the look. do all skinny jeans have the same tightness?

>> No.6556429

>>6556391
I think that might be the width when the jeans are flat? so.... x2

>> No.6556433

>>6556429
OH! that makes sense duh. I got thrown off because they used the regular waist size.

>> No.6556432

>>6556425
no?

Use your head dude. why would ALL skinny jeans be the same size when all people are different

>> No.6556439

>>6556410
It prevents the fabric from falling apart somewhat.

but its not really the selvedge line that makes the quality, it's the loom. and all selvedge is made using a better process

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>>6556433
hue

>> No.6556532

>>6556396

Still getting the jeans, just not matching them up with white shoes.

>> No.6556555

>>6556382

I can't stand the obnoxious yellow/orange stitching.

>> No.6556570

>>6556555
Mine have blue stitching, at least on the arse.

>> No.6556576

What's the difference between skinny fit and tapered fit?

>> No.6556577

>>6556576
One's skinny and the other is tapered.

>> No.6556586

>>6556570
Which brand do you have?

>>6556577
thanks, anon...

>> No.6556601

>>6556586
I have a pair of nudies without that hideous orange stitching on the ass. Grimm Timm cut. Really great fit, but of course one could get better textile from a number of other brands. Tradeoff.

>> No.6556648

>>6556576

skinny is tight throughout the leg, while tapered is a bit looser in the thighs and tighter below the knee. tbh, there isn't a huge difference if you look at fit pics.

>> No.6556651

ps you can very easily remove the pocket stitching from nudies

>> No.6556737

I bought a pair of n&f black power stretch and they fit really tight around my thighs. Will they stretch out? I don't want to look like a fuccboi

>> No.6556744

>>6556737

u probably need to size up.

>> No.6556749

>>6556737
>power stretch
>Will they stretch out?

>> No.6557983

>>6556106
just bumping because i feel people should go through this thread

>> No.6558013

>>6556737
the whole point of the material is that is doesnt stretch out, so you're out of luck, need to size up

>> No.6558115

>>6556410
>any fabric has selvage ends
no