We got a Canadian thread, a British thread, but no Murriclap thread. So, guys, what college do you attend? Is it /fa/? How's the atmosphere, academics, facilities and all that stuff? Also, what are the most effay colleges? In terms of fashion, ambience, etc.

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Anonymous Thu Jun 27 09:14:17 2013 No.6403144 [Reply] [Original]

We got a Canadian thread, a British thread, but no Murriclap thread.

So, guys, what college do you attend? Is it /fa/?
How's the atmosphere, academics, facilities and all that stuff?

Also, what are the most effay colleges? In terms of fashion, ambience, etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 09:32:46 2013 No.6403183 USC Had to choose between UCLA, Cal and USC, USC seemed more /fa/ Did I do good

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 09:40:46 2013 No.6403202 >>6403144 >not university what

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 09:42:47 2013 No.6403212 >>6403202 College, LAC or university, doesnt' matter.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 09:56:16 2013 No.6403248

Guys, I'm not from the USA but I'd like to study here. Money isn't a problem.
I've looked at rankings on the Internet and all that shit, but what do you think are the best colleges (in terms of reputation and endowment and all that) which still allow students to have fun and have an /fa/ population?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:04:46 2013 No.6403266

Hi, my name is Hassan Malek i'll explain to you my situation, I am right now at the university in Paris I am there as a student in engineering. I love really much fashion and it is a passion, but I don't have enough money. I don't waste my money on expensive stuff it is just because life oversea is more expensive and also I work full time. At the end of a week I am exhausted and when all my bills are paid there is nothing left for clothes.

I don't look for money my friend, I just want to explain my situation and making contact. I have friends in america that send me sometime clothing pieces they don't need or when they have it in double.

My wardrobe is in majority in designer pieces and I like brands like Versace, Givenchy or Armani. If you recognize this love for designer clothes and relate to my story we can discuss

Thank you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:05:16 2013 No.6403268 >>6403266 Lol'd

Franz Liszt !!ixFboNvY7Y1 Thu Jun 27 10:06:46 2013 No.6403276
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Columbia University
I'd say we tend toward /fa/. Campus atmosphere sort of hinges on the acknowledgement that we're all stressed---you have those who cope by reveling in it, and you have those that do everything in their power to get away from it (which has become much more prevalent as of late). We like drugs.
Rigorous academics, with some amazing professors. Dining sucks, but honestly more people need to be getting their food from the city anyway.

Generally speaking, I think schools in the northeast tend to be far more effay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:07:16 2013 No.6403282 >>6403144 Fellow Aggiebro? Class of 2011 reporting in

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:08:16 2013 No.6403288

>>6403144

Is that image for real? It reads like the most autistic pile of fan fiction I've ever read, "and this samurai sword of +1 to fedora symbolizes our commitment to forever fap over ponies."

If authentic that has to belong to the least /fa/ college of all time.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:09:17 2013 No.6403290

>>6403282
No, sorry, but I'm seriously considering coming here. I've took a leap year, so I'm eighteen and still not in college (used the leap year to do personal projects, not dick around, so hopefully it won't play against me)
How do you like the uni?
>>6403288
I don't know man, all college rings have symbolism anyway
>>6403276
Shit, you made it into Columbia? Did you have any hooks or just awesome recs, ECs and grades?
>I'm jelly

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:14:46 2013 No.6403306 >>6403290 You should go, best college experience ever. Great sports teams, plus it's a natioan top 100, global top 400 school, plus an AAU member, all whole being extremely reasonably priced.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:15:16 2013 No.6403310 >>6403306 national* top 100 I meant.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:16:16 2013 No.6403313

>>6403306
I thought it was a global top 100 (or even global top 50 according to some rankings).
So the facilities are good? What's your major?
Do you think the network is good? I mean, have you encountered "useful" people which could lead you to success in the future? Connections are important to me, I'm willing to get into entrepreneurship
Are there any good drugs? Like LSD?

Franz Liszt !!ixFboNvY7Y1 Thu Jun 27 10:16:47 2013 No.6403314

>>6403290
My Italian teacher wrote me a recommendation saying I reminder her of her son who was an alum, I had a broad range of extracurriculars w/ leadership roles back in HS, and I think I wrote a convincing essay.
Honestly, I'm pretty sure my grades had the smallest role in my admission.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:19:16 2013 No.6403323

>>6403314
>I reminded her of her son who was an alum
Oh, that's very interesting. Because I know a shitload of alums from Yale, Harvard, Columbia, Brown and all, so they could maybe say the same thing about me.
No teachers from high school, though. So maybe it'll be useless.

What were your ECs?
>leadership roles
Like class president or something? I thought that wasn't actually important.
>convincing essay
Was it original and risk taking?

>the smallest role
Were they meh/good but not extraordinary?

Sorry for the shitload of questions, Columbia seems cool though

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:19:46 2013 No.6403325

>>6403313
Yeah the alumni network is one of the greatest in the world. I graduated two years but I have a permanent account on the Aggie Network that can help me find jobs. Also you make connections there with real-world employers, the professors there do more than teach, some of them own their companies and only teach a few days a week.

As for the drug scene, nah dude, A&M is not a big drug school. You'd be better off partying with the degenerates in Austin if you want drugs. Or the University of Colorado, that's the biggest drug school in the country.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:21:16 2013 No.6403332

>>6403325
That's really cool, I'm definitely going to send an app there. Thanks bro.
>some of them own their companies
Yeah I heard that lots of CEOs were involved with A&M.

>the degenerates in Austin
Is it a bad school?
I don't want a "big drug scene", I'd go to Reed if I wanted that. I just want to be able to get decent LSD/DMT and weed once or twice per year.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:26:46 2013 No.6403343

>>6403332
UT Austin is a great school but it's well-known for being a big party school. Its location in Austin by the bars and festivals such as Austin City Limits and SXSW makes it so that drugs are everywhere over there. My friend's sister when there, and she said she was taking too much ecstasy and partying too much, she was falling off of her studies.

Don't do drugs kid, trust me, it's not a good way to live your life. But you can get anything anywhere if you look for it. I had a friend in Bryan (the next town over) who was involved in the Electronic Music Scene who used to get psychedelics, but I never got involved with that stuff.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:46:17 2013 No.6403385

>just got back from GMU Honors College orientation
>everyone there dresses like a complete pleb, khakis x generic nike cross trainers

I was wearing white plimsolls, black chinos, and a dip-die tank and every one wanted a picture with me because "I was the most hipster person they've ever met."

What the fuck. Good thing I got a single room so I can stay away from these fucks.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:51:16 2013 No.6403405

>>6403343
Oh ok, I understand. But I doubt the network compares with Aggies, does it?

>Don't do drugs
I don't and won't "do drugs". Putting meth, heroin and horrible addictive shit like that in the same bag as psychedelics is a big mistake, anyway.

As long as I can get one tab once, that's good. It's not something I'd get used to or use to get fucked up, it's introspective.

I'll stop derailing my own thread with drugs now, lel

Franz Liszt !!ixFboNvY7Y1 Thu Jun 27 10:51:17 2013 No.6403407

>>6403323
Sorry for the late response, had to shower.
I don't think those are useless connections. If you can't get a rec to namedrop them, it's something you can fit into your essay/short answers.

>ECs
I was VP of the Italian Club, I was a section leader in my HS's jazz ensemble and concert band, volunteered as a teacher's aid at my elementary school, and some other shit. The offices in student government are almost always strictly nominal; I wouldn't waste my time with it.

>essay
It was about the ability to express; I talked about my fear of aphasia & how different artistic mediums manage to express complex ideas with simple components. I don't think the topic was all that out-of-this-world or anything, but I think I wrote it with enough of a personal flavor that it stood apart.

>grades
I was in the top 10% & graduated with honors, but it was less the fact that I had good grades & probably more related to the fact that there was an upward trend. I also had pretty good test scores (2100 on SAT, 780 on English subject test and 790 on Italian subject test).

And don't sweat it; curiosity's a good thing.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 10:59:17 2013 No.6403431

>>6403407
Had to shower too, doesn't matter

>If you can't get a rec to namedrop them
Well, for example, the science teacher I had in primary school is from Yale. I kept in touch with the guy, and we hang out and all, so he could write a rec but would it have any weight whatsoever?

Ok, so I could just throw a bunch of names and leadership positions, mention that I volunteered for the local library, and it would be good.

>with enough of a personal flavor that it stood apart
Yeah I get it. As long as you're "real", it's good. And an original subject is always better.

>an upward trend
You mean you improved over time? That would actually be better than constant excellence?
The holistic admissions process is strange as fuck
Oh a 2100, yeah that's good. I think the fact you were involved with another language (Italian) also made you stand out. I'm personally learning Syriac language and involved with the culture since a part of my family is from there, but since nobody uses it, I don't know if it'll be taken into account.

>curiosity's a good thing
Definitely, I just thought it was annoying to be asked a bunch of questions.

>>6403385
>the most hipster person
Oh god, I cringed.
Well, that might be an advantage. Stay effay, stand out, and give 'em the D

Franz Liszt !!ixFboNvY7Y1 Thu Jun 27 11:15:17 2013 No.6403481

>>6403431
Yeah, if you still keep in touch with him, then his word will carry weight.

I don't think gradual improvement's absolutely better, but I do think that it contributes to the admissions office's impression of you as a student. A lot of the kids I know on campus were straight-A IB kids, but I can think of just as many whose grades were in no way perfect--it's okay to have D's and C's (and in my case, even an F).
Honestly, the fact that it's so rarely spoken will probably work in your favor, honestly, that's the sort of thing that paints a picture of your family life--and it shows initiative.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:16:17 2013 No.6403483

>>6403431
My friend who is also going to GMU is also pretty /fa/ so hopefully we will double effay them all.

I'm conflicted, there is this one incredibly qt3.14 girl from a small town in Pennsylvania and I like her a lot but she isn't /fa/. You think I could teach her to dress well?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:20:17 2013 No.6403494

>>6403481
>then his word will carry weight
Wow, good. If I apply to Yale, that is. I don't think the admissions office from Columbia will care, right?
But similarly, I got another primary teacher from Brown, another from Columbia, and one of my parent's friends is from Harvard. So I can get recs for different schools, if that works.

>in my case, even an F
In 12th grade? Shit, that's pretty strange.

But if it can show your personal improvement as a student and a man, that's good. It may indeed give them a better impression of you as a person.
>it's so rarely spoken
What do you mean?

>>6403483
Heh, do that. Get everyone on the campus to go full Raf Simons and Rick Owens, usually what I'm dressed in
If she's a qt and is open minded, then yes. Try anyway.
>she isn't /fa/
Does she not care at all?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:20:46 2013 No.6403492 >>6403343 UTA is too mainstream now man It's all about Texas State San Marcos, so hip

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:25:46 2013 No.6403512

>>6403494
I think she cares. She's not /fa/ in the sense that she dresses like every other college girl who thinks they are "indie".

I need to get her in some Doc Martens and skin tight black jeans. She also is a semi weaboo and has lived in Japan. She speaks Japanese, Chinese, and Korean.

She is total music patrician though which balances out the clothing.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:27:16 2013 No.6403526

>>6403512
If she actually cares about how she dresses then it's alright. Just get her tastes to evolve. Show her good shit and convince her that indie crap isn't the way to go.
>semi weaboo
Careful with that though, so she doesn't go full kawaii a-am I cute now anon kun

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:28:16 2013 No.6403527

>>6403183
No, USC campus is a shithole. UCLA wins. Every other California college hates people from USC.

>>6403276
Been to Columbia a few times. Pretty /fa/. I'm jealous.

Stanford here. Un/fa/ as fuck. Sweatpants and sweatshirts everywhere. Don't come.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:32:16 2013 No.6403538

>>6403527
>Every other California college hates people from USC
Why is that? I'm not the guy you answered to but I thought it was a good college with a great alum network.
>Don't come
Be glad you got into Stanford, man. It's arguably the best school in the world.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:33:17 2013 No.6403543

>>6403526
I'll keep her weaboo in check.

GMU is right outside all the Washington D.C. mega shopping centers so I'll take her into the city and show her what's what.

My experience with the school so far has only been the Honors College which, of course, is filled with nerdy (but incredibly smart) sperglords. I'm sure the rest of the student population is much more /fa/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:34:17 2013 No.6403546 >>6403538 USC is a good school, don't get me wrong. The students are just obnoxious in a variety of ways.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:36:17 2013 No.6403552

>>6403543
Yeah, do that.
>show her what's what
Don't show her /fa/ though or you'll lose her forever

Maybe, but you might be disappointed. Not a lot of colleges have an effay population. Though anything's better than neckbeards.

>>6403546
What ways, for example? Apart from their wardrobe?

>>	DANIM DAN !!kfdlX/lnWqq Thu Jun 27 11:42:16 2013 No.6403570 >>6403552 University of Spoiled Children. I know a few people from SC who are stuck-up as fuck because they bought their way into a decent school.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:44:16 2013 No.6403575 >>6403570 Heh, I understand. That's the case with a lot of top schools, though. Especially HYP.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 11:50:17 2013 No.6403601 >>6403144 That ring is symbolic of American douchebaggery. It's all about being strong, powerful, confident, patriotic,etc. Yet there isn't anything about being humble, intelligent, or charitable. Typical.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:06:16 2013 No.6403917 >>6403601 It's a class ring. It represents pride for whatever college you went to, not limited to A&M. Similarly, I find MIT's ring, the Brass Rat, to be quite elegant

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:08:17 2013 No.6403931

>>6403405
Weed is pretty easy to find around campus, don't know much about anything harder than that though. A&M isn't really /fa/ but I guess that is quite common with most American colleges.

Just for giggles here the fashion club's website.
http://alineaggies.tamu.edu/node/14

>streetsyle fedora

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:12:16 2013 No.6403944 >>6403931 If weed is easy to find, I would be able to find someone who knows a dealer for 'hader' stuff. Yeah, not a lot of colleges are effay, it doesn't matter as long as it's not full sweatpants and fedoras. Lol'd at that link though

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:17:16 2013 No.6403949

UW Madison.

Not /fa/, but diverse enough that if you want to be /fa/ you won't be alone.
Really much more of a "hipster" university than /fa/.

Actually a super fun and quite academically good university - has a real "work hard, party hard" mentality. I love the atmosphere - super chill.

Facilities are extensive, and range between run-down shit (arts/humanities/math buildings) and palatial (engineering and bio-related buildings).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:19:16 2013 No.6403956 >>6403601 It states Mind and body as well as integrity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:26:17 2013 No.6403978 NYU is pretty /fa/

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:26:17 2013 No.6403980

community college in cali, pretty cool in that somehow the atmosphere is very dead. It's in an often sunny location but somehow the school has managed to maintain as if it were cloudy 24/7. Few people talk to each other, most people stay indoors. I don't think I've seen one friend made inside the campus throughout almost 2 years of attending. Everyone dresses like shit too except for a couple of guys who have their styles completely figured out.
Very depressing, but I guess that's fitting for a community college.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:27:17 2013 No.6403982 U of North Florida. Cheap state school with only 16,000 students. No football team so a lot more is focused on academics. I like it.

>>	http://www.last.fm/user/Plaisa(...) Thu Jun 27 13:32:46 2013 No.6403994 fordham university lincoln center (in manhattan) no its not /fa/ i mean its definitely better than most schools but for an NYC school nah plenty of rich private school girls that think forever 21 is good

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:47:16 2013 No.6404047

>>6403949
Sounds cool; what do you mean by "hipster university"? I mean do they have the mentality too?

>work hard, party hard
That's interesting. Is it easy to make cool friends there? What about the Greek life?
>super chill
I love that

>palatial
Heh, I guess you include CS in that?

>>6403978
Is it? I'm applying there too. Well I figured it wouldn't be pleb, given the reputation of the university.

>>6403980
Shit, that sounds depressing indeed.
What are you doing after community college?

>>6403982
Is it /fa/?

I haven't heard about your uni but I've heard about the U. of Florida which is ranked very high and apparently has a great ambience. Can you relate to that?

>>6403994
Lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 13:58:17 2013 No.6404093 How2get into good to top uni w/ mediocre to bad grades? Pls, /fa/, tell me it's possible

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:05:46 2013 No.6404122

>>6404047
cc guy, just ge's and hopefully transfering out but holy shit this place got to me and my grades tanked again so I dunno I suppose I'm fucked. I figure my best chance is some european school since, as I understand it, having the cash means they're way more lenient on gpa due to the whole socialist nonsense

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:10:46 2013 No.6404152

>>6404093
if you have money, you have something. If something negative happened during your highschool/cc career, you can pin the bad grades on that. Like your grandmother died and it made you depressed for a good long while or some nonsense. if you're in hs, go to a cc and transfer out with better grades. if you have bad grades in cc, I have no idea unless you have the money to be out-of-country

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:19:17 2013 No.6404201

>>6404122
Ah, sorry for you man.
I do know that some schools in France are very good in terms of level but not recognized internationally (your best bets would be Polytechnique for engineering and HEC for buisness, ENS for the rest). You'd have to do some kind of exam first to get in though, get info on that.

Maybe try Oxbridge? I don't know how they'd react to your CC grades.

You also have Tsinghua University where courses are surprisingly high level and in English.

I don't know, but good luck anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:21:48 2013 No.6404208 >>6404047 UF rides on its name mostly. Like any other major state school the main priority is football. The academics are pretty good I'll admit, but not joining Greek life is social suicide. Id like to think UNF is somewhat /fa/

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:24:47 2013 No.6404226

>>6404152
>if you have money
Enough to not need financial aid; not enough to make a donation to the school or such nonsense.

>something negative
Nothing such as a death or anything...
If I bullshit and say that I was depressed because of bullying or something, or something else (bullying might not be a good thing to put on the essay), do you think it could work? I'd feel like a cheater, but whatever.

Transferring means losing two years of undergraduate education? I don't know.
I'll apply to safeties anyway

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:26:17 2013 No.6404235

>>6404208
>major state school
All of them? Berkeley, U. Michigan, UVA, all of those focus exclusively on sports? Their massive endowment would allow them to provide great education - don't they?
I'm looking for a great network anyway.
>not joining Greek life is social suicide
I don't know. On one hand, it seems fun and full of opportunities, but hazing and all that stuff...

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:35:17 2013 No.6404281

>>6404235
They don't focus solely on sports, but sports programs get they're hands on funding first because they make so much money and are excellent publicity. The problem at least that I have with Greek is to rush you sacrifice a semester of your life. If you're not studying or in class your doing something for your fraternity. And even after that, expect to spend 3 or 4 nights a week doing fraternity shit.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:42:47 2013 No.6404323

>>6404281
I understand.

The semester thing isn't important - what's worrying me is just the hazing practices, which I fear would be too much as I'm a pussy faggot.
>3 or 4 nights a week
During all my undergrad years?

Apart from Greek live, some unis (like UVA) have secret societies. Are they basically the same?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 14:59:18 2013 No.6404441 File: 162 KB, 800x575, 060208_westpoint2_800.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6403144 >effay colleges? USMA. Not only do they have pic related, but they started the class ring tradition in America

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:00:48 2013 No.6404449 File: 253 KB, 960x720, soccer house.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] William and Mary

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:06:17 2013 No.6404470 >>6404441 >they started the class ring tradition I learned something today. I don't know if /fa/ likes college rings though (I do). Just out of curiosity, what other unis have a strong ring culture?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:20:17 2013 No.6404545 File: 212 KB, 678x250, ARMY is SHIT.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6404441 >Army >Not Navy Stay pleb.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:23:17 2013 No.6404557 Georgetown University Do you all even watch Otto Porter. Smh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:29:47 2013 No.6404589 >>6404152 >something negative happened during your highschool/cc career my parents got divorced, is that enough?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:38:48 2013 No.6404650 File: 99 KB, 1024x768, IMG_1079.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6404470 The Citadel..another military college Pretty /fa/ name too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:42:48 2013 No.6404673 >>6404650 Only military colleges? Maybe I'm stupid, but I wouldn't want to go to such a college. I prefer non-military ones, be they private or public

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:48:17 2013 No.6404716

>>6404673
The thing about military colleges is the ring is generally worn by all graduates pretty much all the time after they graduate as a result of a shared experience they ALL had. In the case of the Citadel, they all even have the exact same one--the designs don't change year to year. (I live in Charleston, SC, and see graduates everywhere.)

Regular schools aren't regimented or controlled in a way that puts every student through the same rights of passage. The less students sense a consistent unifying experience, they less likely graduates will have a strong ring culture. That doesn't mean class rings can't mean something personal to individuals though.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:53:17 2013 No.6404746

>>6404716
I see. To me, a class ring means more opportunities (conversation starter, etc) for connections, that's why I wanted to know.
I think MIT has a very strong culture around the brass rat? Is it the same for master's than it is for undergrads, you think?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 15:58:17 2013 No.6404776

>>6404746
MIT has one of the strongest civilian ring cultures. It's definitely stronger for undergrad, but I've read grad students often buy one too. I suspect the particularly difficult (some say most difficult in the world) gen ed course of study that all students, even liberal arts majors, go through has something to do with building such a culture.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:03:47 2013 No.6404800

>>6404776
>grad students often buy one too
Yeah. It must be extremely useful to meet people, especially since the brass rat is so recognizable.

>most difficult in the world
That would be Caltech...

MIT, Texas A&M and military universities... Any others? Which have good academics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:15:18 2013 No.6404869 >>6404800 fyi, Texas A&M has a military Corps of Cadets, which I suspect is a source of pride for the school that adds credence to the ring. Virginia Tech is another school that falls into this category. That's all I'm aware of.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:22:19 2013 No.6404920
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northwestern

the midwest isn't very /fa/, NU isn't very /fa/ but the academics are great, facilities are aging but acceptable, and I really like it here. Also there are qt journalism girls.

I'm here for engineering.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:29:49 2013 No.6404968

>>6404869
Oh I didn't know that. Okay.
Isn't VT famous essentially for the shooting? Or is it a prestigious school nonetheless?

>>6404920
Northwestern is like a "western Ivy", isn't it? Just like Duke is a "southern Ivy"
Is their engineering program (include CS in there) strong?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:32:18 2013 No.6404990
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had to choose between

>USC

>UCSD

>UCSB

>Waitlist at UCLA

would've gone to USC if the tution wasn't buttfuck retardedly expensive

Headed to UCSD this fall

if the facebook page is any indication, it's going to be ridic. un/fa/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:35:48 2013 No.6405014 >>6403994 if you're at the lincoln center campus you are probably studying the wrong major

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:37:48 2013 No.6405034

>>6404968
Virginia Tech is a cult and a shit school.
Alumni and current students act like a degree from their is equivalent to an Ivy League school.

This is coming from a Virginia resident surrounded by the "Hokey Nation". I wish that Asian fuck had blown up the place.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:38:18 2013 No.6405046

>>6404990
>$62,245
What the FUCK
That's completely insane. Are any other top schools that expensive? Because I'm not paying that unless I'm going to Harvard or something

Also how do UCSD and UCSB compare in your opinion?

>>6405034
Huh. Okay. So it's not good.
What about UVA? Isn't it a "public Ivy"?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:43:18 2013 No.6405081

>>6405046
UVA is just the same.

Half of my former high school peers go there and they are all boat shoe, salmon short, Vinyard Vines copping faggots.

A degree from UVA means shit all to any real Fortune 500 company, yet every one who goes there acts like they just rejected Harvard in favor of UVA. It's a "good ole boy" school meaning if you didn't go to an exclusive Virginia prep school then you don't mean shit socially.

They also have literally no internship options and Charlottesville is literally bumfuck nowhere.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:43:18 2013 No.6405082

>>6405046

A good majority of high-tier private schools are $50,000+

High-tier public schools are very affordable though, like Berkeley, UCLA, UNC, etc

UCSD is a better school in general than SB, but I've heard some really shitty things about the social life at SD (commuter school, autists are half the population)

I went to SD for the music program though

LA would've been fucking amazing to get into for me though, great music and a great school with a p.good social life

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:46:18 2013 No.6405107 >>6405082 >autists are half the population don't you mean asians?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:48:18 2013 No.6405113 >>6405107 iirc 44% asian, so yes didn't want to sound overtly racist though 8)

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:49:48 2013 No.6405122

>>6405082
50k is alright, but 60k is over the top. Will I really pay more than 60k for top education in private schools?
>UNC
I didn't know it was a top school. Does it compare to Cal and all? I literally knew about the name only. How is it perceived and does it have a good network?

Yeah isn't SB a party school?
>autists are half the population
Heh. California seems like a socially normal place though, except Caltech.

UCLA has a great social life apparently yeah
It's on par with Cal I think

>>6405081
Seriously? I didn't think it was a meh school. I mean, celebrities and UHNWI went here and it has a very high rate of self made rich people.
It has a fuckload of secret societies which implies an apparently great alumni network...

I didn't think it was all bullshit.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:53:48 2013 No.6405148

>>6405122

Yeah UNC is pretty up there, close to Cal and all

SB is the definition of a party school, Isla Vista is insane

Autists are p.much everywhere in every UC. I visited every single one and I could spot computer science majors at any given moment

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:57:49 2013 No.6405178

>>6404968
Engineering at NU is solid. Ranked pretty highly and does a lot of research. Materials science and industrial engineering are the two strongest fields but it's overall a very good program.

Sure, i guess it's a "western ivy" simply based on the fact that it has good academics. People here are pretty laid back though. It's not at all elitist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 16:59:18 2013 No.6405190 >>6405122 Secret societies don't mean shit when you can't go to your fucking career office or professors and ask for a research position or internship without either completely blowing you off because you aren't made of daddie's odl money.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:00:18 2013 No.6405192

>>6405046
Unless your family is incredibly wealthy, you'll never be paying sticker price at a top school. A lot of them have really generous finaid. NU's sticker price is $60K+ but my parents are only paying $18K a year, grants and scholarships covered the rest.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:00:48 2013 No.6405195

>>6405148
Didn't know that. What are other great public schools?
I heard U. Michigan was great, on par with Cal.

>the definition of a party school
Really. Well, if the academics aren't that good, it's not really worth it. Unless the reputation is good

>Autists are p.much everywhere in every UC
Oh really? Strange.
>I could spot computer science majors
Lol'd
Fedoras and all?

>>6405178
Okay. That sounds good. The admissions rate is low but I'll try. The network's great, right?
>People here are pretty laid back
They're not at Ivies? I heard Brown was chill as fuck, for example. I wouldn't know about the other Ivies, I don't know how to choose where to apply amongst all eight of them.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:02:49 2013 No.6405208

>>6405190
>don't mean shit
They mean connections, no? Just look at the Seven Society. JFK went there, iirc.

>>6405192
But applying for financial aid if you're not an American citizen makes your application less likely to get accepted, no?
I'll try to split up the payment between me and my parents if that's even possible. But if applying for financial aid makes me less likely to get in, I won't

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:04:18 2013 No.6405224

>>6403183
>USC
>pretentious hipster fags
>Reddit tier
I am glad I left, the teachers are huge fags as well, some bitch copyrights the notes to her class and sells them for 500 USD. It is also full of feminist that think they stand for equality but are being led by supremacist that they look up to cause of the fetes they accomplish as women.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:09:18 2013 No.6405249

>>6405195
Yeah, alumni network is great. I live in a residential college and its alums often come back to hang out and attend our events. There's a guy who worked at microsoft and helped develop internet explorer back in the 90s, and he came by just to chat and get to know people. Great alumni support.

A lot of people (myself included) are at NU because they didn't get into their top choice ivies or stanford. NU is a solid choice though, and definitely has a different feel to it than the ivies.

On that note if you're doing engineering, of the ivies, only cornell and columbia have engineering programs worth anything.

>>6405208
Oh you're not american? Check if the university is need blind for international students as well. If so, then your financial aid won't be taken into account for admission.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:19:18 2013 No.6405297

>>6405224
Damn, sounds like shit. I'm going to seriously reconsider applying there if despite the high price the environment is shitty.
>>6405249
Oh, okay. The network sounds awesome indeed. Would you say it has some focus on entrepreneurs to an extent or none at all?

>because they didn't get into their top choice ivies or stanford
So it's easier, despite the admissions rate?
Where did you apply and where did you get in, if you don't mind telling me?

>only cornell and columbia
Hmm... Columbia is extremely expensive, but it really seems worth it. Cornell seems easier to get into.
But I'm probably going into CS; are Columbia and Cornell the only good ones? I heard Harvard, Princeton and Yale were good too.

No, I'm not American. I'll check, but isn't "need blind" a lie? I think they do look at your results, no? I don't know...
But it will definitely increase my chances if I don't apply for FA to a school where it isn't need blind, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:21:48 2013 No.6405307 >tfw 2 poor/rejected from all effay New England schools and attending a large state school in the midwest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:27:48 2013 No.6405342 >>6405307 That's a shame, are you going to transfer out?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:28:18 2013 No.6405349 >tfw no vandypoos

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:31:18 2013 No.6405370 File: 143 KB, 746x718, um_seal.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6405342 probably not. it's very well respected academically, I just wish things would have gone differently.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:32:18 2013 No.6405379 >>6405370 you're going to a top 25 uni bro quit yer bitchin

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:33:49 2013 No.6405385 >>6405370 Oh you go to UMich? Yeah stay there, you lucky fucker. (What were your stats?)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:34:49 2013 No.6405393 >>6405385 33 ACT. ~3.8 GPA

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:37:48 2013 No.6405403 >>6405393 Kthx. Lots of ECs?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:39:48 2013 No.6405414 >>6405403 yeah, sort of. I also went to a shitty high school and went out of my way to do extra stuff so that probably helped.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:49:18 2013 No.6405466 >>6405414 That's cool. Thanks for the info man, I'm going to apply to UMich for early action (non restrictive) so I wanted to know

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:50:49 2013 No.6405472 >>6405466 good choice. that's what I did. what do you plan on studying?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 17:53:48 2013 No.6405486 >>6405472 CS, probably. I want a school with a cool ambience, opportunities for connections, prestige and world class education - so UMich is probably one of my best bets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:01:48 2013 No.6405534 Purdue Full of Asians and midwesterners. Not /fa/, but good academics and a nice mix of school and social life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:06:49 2013 No.6405553 >>6405534 It seems that only a handful of universities are /fa/ anyway.

>>	YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT(...) Thu Jun 27 18:08:49 2013 No.6405559 >>6403248 Probably nyu

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:10:48 2013 No.6405574 >>6405559 I'm not the guy you replied to (anything more than 50k-55k tuition is too much for me) but is NYU really worth it? I heard it was a bunch of rich kids getting wasted and nothing else, and that the network wasn't even that good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:12:19 2013 No.6405581 >tfw UCLA fag >tfw all them rich Beverly Hill kids inviting you to expensive restaurants Life is good

YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT(...) Thu Jun 27 18:14:18 2013 No.6405589

>>6403492

San Marcos fag reporting in. This college is full of dadcore frat boys. Not dadcore like what /fa/ considers dadcore, I mean REAL dadcore. Oversized polos, baseball caps, and cargo shorts.

I'm transferring to Baruch (I have crap grades and can't afford nyu/Columbia) next year. Can't wait to be in NYC and as far away from Texas as possible

>>	YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT(...) Thu Jun 27 18:15:18 2013 No.6405599 >>6405574 Yeah, that sounds about right, unless you're going into business. Nyu has one hell of a reputation though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:16:48 2013 No.6405602 >>6403288 That image is for real. I have a friend who goes to Texas A&M, and that exact image was in his grad ring brochure. America is this autistic.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:18:18 2013 No.6405613

>>6405581
Does that happen only at UCLA? Heh.
>>6405599
>unless you're going into buisness
Stern, right?
Aren't the best buisness schools Harvard BS and Stanford Graduate BS, maybe Wharton?
Also, is an MBA even necessary for an entrepreneur?
>one hell of a reputation
Does that itself justify the price? I also want a good ambience, people and stuff.

YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT(...) Thu Jun 27 18:26:18 2013 No.6405660

>>6405613

Yeah.

Any school that the major banks recruit at is a good business school IMO.

The MBA is also worth it in my opinion if you can afford the extra 30 hours of coursework. My grandpa got his degree in mechanical engineering, and 2 years later started working towards his MBA. He says he doesn't even know why he bothered with engineering in the first place; the MBA made him much more money.

And the reputation is really only a big deal if you want to work overseas.

Where do you go now? Just curious.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:26:48 2013 No.6405661

>>6404047
It is super easy to make tons of cool freinds.
CS actually isn't quite as nice because the building is a little old, but definitely not too old to replace or renovate.

UW Madison:
>Very large (~40,000 students)
>School spirit out the ass - huge sense of camraderie
>Very diverse - whatever you are, there's a club or org about it
>Very strong academics & tons of research
>Cheap as fuck if you're from WI or Minnesota (~$8000/year)
>huuuge drinking culture (duh, Wisconsin)
>Madison itself is both the state capitol and the main university town in WI
>Most of the population is young people and old hippies - extremely liberal, but even if you aren't liberal there's a place for you
>Chill police force
>Tons of weed
>fun events constantly - like free concerts and stuff

I absolutely love it here - college was awesome.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:28:48 2013 No.6405678 >>6405661 I forgot, but there's also a huge studying culture where people buckle down hard all week and blow off steam on the weekends.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:30:48 2013 No.6405690 >>6405661 >tfw Wisconsinfag >tfw shit grades, not a whole lot in college fund, but good ACT score >Going to derp it up at Fox Valley for 2 years, then hopefully manage Madison Feels...okay man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:32:19 2013 No.6405707 I go to Trinity College Pretty much as /fa/ as it gets in Ireland

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:38:18 2013 No.6405744

>>6405660
>the major banks recruit at
That's true, but prestige is different - I think. To me the top is HBS, SGBS and Wharton, then come all the others ; Stern, Kellogg, Sloan, etc. But I might be wrong.

>if you can afford
Well, I know it's extremely expensive, but hopefully my job and savings by then would allow me to pay for most of it. Assuming financial aid is unavailable.
>the MBA made him much more money
Yeah, unsurprisingly. I don't know why MBAs hold so much prestige.
However, is it more prestigious to have an MBA from Harvard BS or a bachelor's from Harvard? And the network - is it the same, too?

>if you want to work overseas
I don't know yet, but I think I'll stay in the USA. It's going to take a lot of efforts for me to *come* here and I don't think I'll leave if I manage to get in the Bay Area.

>Where do you go now
Taking a leap year. I'm not dicking around though, I'm working on an important revenue generating project which will hopefully help on my application.

>>6405661
Shit, that sounds really awesome. I'll definitely apply there, thanks a bunch.
It doesn't matter if the CS building is a little old - all we need are just desktops, unless I'm working on theory, quantum computing and shit, which doesn't interest me (I'm into the practical stuff).

So yeah, I'll send an app, definitely!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:40:48 2013 No.6405756 >>6403144 Any UW-Seattle bros in here? I think it's a pretty great school. Seattle is cool, too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:42:48 2013 No.6405774 >>6405756 I heard that it was a great school indeed, with a top CS program. I don't know much about the rest, unfortunately.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:43:18 2013 No.6405780

>>6405297

There seems to be quite a bit of support for startups. There's this thing called Northwestern Student Holdings that funds a lot of student businesses.

Well, yeah, NU is at 13% admit while HYP are under 5%.

I applied to Dartmouth, Brown, Washington U in St Louis, Northwestern, Rice, USC, Harvey Mudd, Rochester, RPI, and Case Western Reserve. Rejected from Dartmouth, waitlisted Wash U, Brown, and Harvey Mudd, accepted into the rest. 4.2 GPA, 2340 SAT, geographically underrepresented, asian.

Cornell is the easiest ivy to get into. It probably has the best engineering program of all 8. HPY are fine for CS but you're mostly paying for the name, their CS/engineering aren't that good. For CS, carnegie mellon and university of washington are supposed to be really good.

> But it will definitely increase my chances if I don't apply for FA to a school where it isn't need blind, right?

Yeah.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:46:19 2013 No.6405804

>>6405774
I'll be a junior at UW and love it (I'm currently in the bioengineering department).
I was a bit disappointed as a senior in HS because I got rejected from pretty much every school I applied for (Ivies + Stanford + MIT) and I chose UW over Berkeley because of tuition.

Now I'm really glad that I came here. There's enough people that literally every interest imaginable is covered and Seattle has some /fa/ parts (though the "mainstream culture" is absolutely shit).
Oh, and fuck Macklemore.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:47:19 2013 No.6405807

>>6405690
Do it bro - totally worth it! Just be aware, Madison will probably be harder classes, and you get almost no personal interactions with professors.

>>6405744
Yeah absolutely go for it. When I say "not as nice" though, I mean in comparison to the swanky new shit they built for the stem cell research center. It's actually quite a decent building.

>>6405756
I'm actually gonna apply there for grad school. Sounds pretty sweet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:49:18 2013 No.6405820 >>6405804 Madisonfag here - you doing stem cell stuff? Cause that's what I'm in, and want to do in grad school as well. Sounds like a pretty cool place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:51:19 2013 No.6405835 >>6405807 >>6405820 Definitely apply to UW!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 18:55:18 2013 No.6405855 >>6405297 Oh yeah I forgot, regarding entrepreneurship, Kellogg (business school at NU) offers certificates and certain courses to undergrads and I believe a few of them have to do with entrepreneurship.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:00:48 2013 No.6405893

>>6405780
Oh, if there's a support for startups, that's great.

Yeah, sure, but it's still a very low acceptance rate. Not taking the early decision rates into account.

Wait, what? Given your stats, you should've got into those Ivies. I can't even...
Your SAT is near perfect, same for your GPA, and you had a hook. Did you have shitty ECs or recs or something? That's really strange.
Where did you apply for early action/decision? I don't know where I should send my early apps apart from UMich...

>easiest ivy
Well, it's not that easy. Barely above Northwestern in terms of acceptance rate. But yes, its engineering programs are the best. I do think that Princeton is very good for CS, though, it's high in rankings.
CMU is the best, but I think the ambience is shitty. Just like U. Chicago, "where fun goes to die".
I'll apply to U. Washington.

>Yeah
I will, then. Do you think it changes anything if I don't ask for financial aid when I apply to a supposedly "need blind" school?

>>6405804
If you don't mind telling, what did your app look like? Grades, ECs and stuff. If you got into Cal, it must've been really good.

Yeah, I quickly looked it up and it does look like a great school. The CS program is very strong, so I'll apply.

>>6405807
Yeah, it doesn't really matter anyway. As I said, the only thing we need is computers.

>>6405855
Oh, I didn't know that. Well, I'm not going to think about the MBA for now, but it's good to keep it in mind.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:06:49 2013 No.6405933

>>6405893
Man, this is bringing back bad memories haha.
I actually had a 2380 SAT and an (unweighted) 3.98 with 13 AP courses.

I had good ECs (ASB Vice President, Honor Society, classical musician, president of TSA).
My biggest mistake was my application essays. I was so confident that my scores/GPA could get me into schools that I wrote boring-ass bland essays.
No humor or bold declarations to separate me from the next guy with a great SAT/GPA.
I went 2/10 on colleges haha. But, I'm happy where I am now.

If you're curious
+: UW, Berkeley
-: Princeton, Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Dartmouth (waitlisted, but didn't pursue it), Yale, Columbia, Cornell

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:14:48 2013 No.6405984

>>6405933
Oh, sorry. I mean, I'm curious because it's important for me, but I understand that it must feel pretty bad to get rejected from dream schools.

Damn your grades were great, too. Probably won't be able to rival that, unless I retake stuff, I'll have to rely on EC and essays if everyone applying has those stats.

>boring-ass bland essays
Oh, I see. That's too bad. Does the essay really play a great part? Like, as important as grades?

>I'm happy where I am now
That's cool then. I guess the quality of education doesn't change much anyway - what changes is the social interaction which almost always hides some kind of professional networking at Ivy Leagues, MIT and Stanford.

Okay.
Where did you apply EA/ED?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:15:18 2013 No.6405993

>>6405893
> Given your stats, you should've got into those Ivies.
> tfw asian male
nah but seriously, my ECs were standard but nothing outstanding (bunch of math/science clubs, one sport, no real leadership positions to speak of). On top of that my high school was fairly weak, so they probably figured my high GPA was because the classes were easy. Although being asian and male probably didn't help me either. In the end, I don't really mind that I didn't get into dartmouth. NU has a better program (and a better environment) anyway.

I didn't early decision anywhere, I early action'd (nonbinding) at Case (my safety) just because I wanted my decision earlier.

> I do think that Princeton is very good for CS, though, it's high in rankings.

Okay. I don't know much about CS programs, I just know a few that are really good.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:22:19 2013 No.6406046

>>6405993
>>asian male
Oooh, okay. Yeah, they discriminate, right? That's pretty bad. I'm hispanic but since I'm international, it won't matter.

>ECs were standard but nothing outstanding
Yeah that might've played against you too. Don't they like a few things you're passionate about rather than a shitload of mildly unimpressive things and standard leadership stuff?
>high school was fairly weak
They take that into account?
My highschool is the sixth in the country, but since it's not in the USA, I doubt they'll care. Unless the recs mention it.

>better program
>and a better environment
That's what matters. Dartmouth is said to have a great focus on undergrads, but I presume it's good at NU too?

>just because I wanted my decision earlier
Heh.
Do any top schools offer early action?

>I just know a few that are really good
Yeah. Well the best are at Stanford, Cal, CMU and MIT. Then come the others we mentioned.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:32:48 2013 No.6406104

>>6405984
I'd say for the Ivies especially, they get so many applicants with near-perfect scores/grades, the essay is how they distinguish nearly-identical students.

I applied Princeton early, got deferred.

Oh, also,
>half-Asian
Though, I'm not blaming anything on race. I fucked up. It's on me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:33:48 2013 No.6406110 >>6406104 Wait, no I didn't. I applied Harvard early haha, I'm fucking stupid. Got deferred.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:37:49 2013 No.6406137

>>6406046
> Don't they like a few things you're passionate about rather than a shitload of mildly unimpressive things and standard leadership stuff?

Yeah. Something like that.

>>high school was fairly weak
>They take that into account?

They can use that to justify a lower GPA. A 4.0 at Exeter or Andover isn't gonna be the same as a 4.0 at buttfuck nowhere high school.

> Dartmouth is said to have a great focus on undergrads, but I presume it's good at NU too?

One of my friends goes to Dartmouth. It seems like he gets to know his professors pretty well (e.g. going to their houses for dinner) but at the same time he's fairly critical of dartmouth admin for what he calls "incompetence." Also, dartmouth is in the absolute middle of nowhere.

NU cares about its undergrads too, and if you try you'll definitely be able to foster close relationships with your profs, esp in freshman seminars. Also, it's just outside Chicago, so it's a very exciting locale.

> Do any top schools offer early action?
I think most of the ivies have switched to EA now, although as of 2012 Dartmouth and Brown only offer ED.

I'm just gonna emphasize this, though. Admission at top colleges (top 20 private schools) is a toss up. It's very hard to tell whether you'll get in, no matter how good your scores. My friend (at Dartmouth) had perfect SAT, award winning science fair projects, student body VP, top of the class, but was rejected from stanford and all the ivies except dartmouth and cornell. It's a toss up, really. Game of luck.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:45:18 2013 No.6406184

>>6405933
Yeah, essays are super important. Enough kids have perfect SAT scores that all the Ivies could fill their entire freshman classes with just perfect SAT scores and GPAs. The essay is how you make them think you're an interesting person and worth adding. You want to make the person reading your app think, "I really want to meet this kid."
I got in early to my first choice Ivy, and I think it was mostly because of my essays. My application packet was good and I had "as good a chance as anybody," according to my college counselor. But I come off pretty well in writing and sent a weird, funny, slightly rambling essay about comic books. Unless they really desperately wanted another French Club President for the freshman class, I can't think of what else would have set me apart from a sea of other not-perfect-but-close SAT scores and GPAs.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:48:48 2013 No.6406207

>>6406104
>for the Ivies especially
You include MIT and Stanford in there even though they're not Ivies, right? Because they get a shitload of apps too.
>near-perfect scores/grades
>how they distinguish
Well, if that's how they function, if the essay just enhances instead of compensating, then I'll get nowhere. I might not be as competitive as others due to the competitivity of my own school.

>I'm not blaming anything on race
But it has played against you anyway, so not everything was because of your fuck-ups.

>>6406110
Well applying there early sure is ambitious... Though I saw the acceptance rates for early at Harvard was around 19%. Which is huge compared to the regular 4%.

>>6406137
>Something like that.
Well I *hope* it's something like that.

>They can use it to justify a lower GPA
I don't know how I'll convert my grades to the GPA system, but they're certainly lower because of competitivity. I remember it being very harsh, and I got my councilor to mention it.
As it's not in the US, again, I don't know if it'll be taken into account.

>going to their houses for dinner
Oh, wow, I didn't know you could have such relationships with your professors. It's pretty cool.
>incompetence
Strange. It's a little school, how can admin be that bad? Hm.
>absolute middle of nowhere
Yeah, that's true. And I heard the Greek life was horrible.

>cares about its undergrads too
Well apart from Harvard where profs don't give a flying fuck about teaching, most top schools have some kind of focus on undergrads, Princeton and Dartmouth being the best at that in the Ivies, I think. I don't know about NU, but if it's the case, then it's great!
>just outside Chicago
Is it a cool city? I know about UoChicago too, but it seems to have a really shitty ambience.

>most of the ivies have switched to EA
What... That means I can apply to most Ivies for EA and increase my chances that way? There must be a flaw. It's not possible.

>is a toss up
I know. I'll keep it in mind.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:53:18 2013 No.6406249

>>6406184
>You want to make the person reading your app think, "I really want to meet this kid."
That's what I'm going to have to do, focus on the essays. Make them original and take risks, I guess.
>mostly because of my essays
>My application packet was good and I had "as good a chance as anybody"
Hmm... What I'd like to know is, if one's SAT and/or your GPA (because of deflation) is a bit weaker than competitors but you have a better essay, do you think one still has a chance?
>weird, funny, slightly rambling
Oh, so you really took risks. That's good to know.
But your GPA and SATs were near perfect. That's the thing. Your essays *set you apart* but your results got you in the door.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:53:48 2013 No.6406247

Harvard

Generally everyone's either either pretty prepcore /fa/ or extremely un/fa/ (like, either bro-tier shit or just sweatpants + t-shirt), with not a whole lot in between. I generally don't try to be particularly /fa/ but a depressing percentage of people are impressed by basic shit like brogues.

It's a fairly large school and things vary across types of classes tho so it's tough to meaningfully generalize, whatever

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:55:48 2013 No.6406262 >tfw you go to public school because of money issues a-at least it has great research opportunities, r-right? >tfw you're going to end up in an un-effay profession >tfw you'll be lucky to end up as some lab's lab bitch why did i go to a STEM school??

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:57:49 2013 No.6406273 >>6406247 I figured Harvard would be like this, I don't know why. Congrats getting in >>6406262 Don't be negative anon, get into a top school for grad school or something.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:59:48 2013 No.6406291

>>6406207
> Is it a cool city?

Yeah. NU is in Evanston, a northern suburb, which is in itself a pretty decent college town. Fairly safe, too. You can take the train into Chicago whenever you've got free time, it's a nice city with a lot of shopping options. There are often concerts and other events to go to. Museums and stuff are great. Mass transit is pretty good and gets you around cheaply and conveniently.

UChicago is in Hyde Park, a gentrifying neighborhood on the South Side, which has a reputation for being poor and dangerous.

> There must be a flaw. It's not possible.

I dunno, I might be wrong. You can check.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:02:18 2013 No.6406309

>>6406273
that's what i'm hoping for, but it's easier said than done. the competition within STEM majors is intense, and i don't think i'm really cut out for it (see: shit GPA), but i think it's too late to turn around and do something else, so i guess i'll just stick it out and hope for the best?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:05:48 2013 No.6406330

>>6406291
Sounds good! Being next to a cool city is always better than being lost in the middle of nowhere, I presume Chicago has a great night life? I don't know much about the main cities in the US, so I don't know how Chicago would compare to NYC, Boston, etc...
>poor and dangerous
Alright, won't apply there.

>You can check
No but I mean... I could just boost all my chances and have 15% chances instead of 5% for nearly all Ivies, just by doing EA. That's really strange.

>>6406309
If you plan on doing a PhD, it's all that matters. I think you can do your BA and MS at random schools, but as long as your PhD is from Caltech, MIT or another great school, you'll get as much credit as a guy who would have been an MIT/Caltech student from BA through PhD.

If you don't plan on doing a PhD, well... Just look at the amount of successful people who have a college degree from a great school, and then look at those who got a degree from a random school, or no school at all. You have all your chances, success depends on drive

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:10:48 2013 No.6406372

I graduated from Howard. Supremely /fa/, ridiculously so. The women do not step out of the dorm under-dressed. It's very much black American stylings, though, so if that's not your cup of tea, then I guess you wouldn't call it /fa/.

>Atmosphere
The transition from high school 2.0 party scene to career-focused austerity (complete with office squabbles and backstabbing) over the break before junior year was instant and breathtaking.

>Academics
Middling

>Facilities
Old and crumbling

I wish I'd gone to a PWI. Howard wasn't horrible, but it was not a good fit for me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:12:18 2013 No.6406385 >>6406372 Oh, I forgot to mention, the fashion show is one of the main events of the university's homecoming festivities. Which is a big deal. Seems pretty /fa/.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:14:48 2013 No.6406403

>>6406330
> I presume Chicago has a great night life?
You mean like nightclubs? It probably does, but you won't have time for it, what with midterms practically every two weeks. Even on weekends, most people just go to frat parties or house parties in Evanston. Unless you've got a good fake ID, in which case there are some bars that you can go to.

> Alright, won't apply there.
Hyde Park in and of itself isn't that bad, but the surrounding areas are kinda rough, I've heard. But a lot of people seem to be miserable there and it's certainly got an incredibly hard workload. Not saying that NU is easy or anything, but damn UChicago is really high pressure.

> boost all my chances
nah, EA provides a minimal boost if it does at all. ED mainly gives a boost because you're locked into going and schools want to increase their yield. Since EA is nonbinding there's minimal benefit.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:14:48 2013 No.6406404

>>6406249
Yeah, I guess I did take risks. I didn't know I was doing it at the time, though.
I don't know exactly how it works in admissions, but they always say there's no exact minimum GPA or SAT score. (I find it a little hard to believe that they don't throw out the 1.5 GPAs.) I believe there are computer programs where you can look at the average SAT scores of the students accepted, and they're always lower than you'd expect them to be.
Everything should be as good as you can make it, of course. But if you get in, there will definitely be people with better scores that did not get in. And there will be people with worse scores that did get in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:17:19 2013 No.6406424 >>6406404 most public colleges will list things like that, usually on their website or wikipedia

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:22:48 2013 No.6406450
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I'm going to be in the corps of cadets next year at a&m
feels good to be going to a predominantly conservative university thats also not unrepresented in any category by sheer size

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:22:48 2013 No.6406451

>>6406372
>black American
Is this why it's apparently nicknamed "Black Harvard"?

>>6406403
>you won't have time for it
Oh, okay. Never mind then.

>seem to be miserable
>incredibly hard workload
>really high pressure
That's not for me. Sure, NU might not be easy, but something like UChicago or Caltech where you have to choose between sleeping or working is too harsh.

>EA provides a minimal boost
You sure? Take a look at that. Class of 2017:
http://www.applicationbootcamp.com/ivy-league-admission-statistics-for-class-of-2017/
It's very strange.

>>6406404
>I didn't know I was doing it at the time, though
What do you mean?
Yeah, I understand. Well I'll have to see. But as the grading system is different here, I could just put a high GPA (while not exaggerating) and they'd have to recalculate it themselves based on my transcripts and taking grade deflation into account since I can't convert them myself. I don't even know if I should translate my transcripts.
Yeah, it's all down to luck, but still. I have to be realistic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:34:49 2013 No.6406509 >>6406451 Did some googling for you. Harvard, Princeton, and Yale offer EA. Columbia, Penn, Dartmouth, Brown, and Cornell offer ED.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:41:48 2013 No.6406554

>>6406509
Sorry for not doing it myself, lel

That means I can apply EA for the hardest Ivies, and that's certainly a very good thing given the link I've posted earlier - 18% chances for H/P instead of 6% or less, and 14% for Yale instead of 5%. Sounds great to me.

I'll probably apply regular at Cornell since it's already a high rate, and I'll see for ED.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:44:48 2013 No.6406574

I am going to Cornell and I was astounded by how well everyone there dresses. I only saw a few lame graphic tees and baggy, light wash jeans.

I'm going to be under a lot of pressure to buy nice clothes and learn how to wear them well.

Any Cornellians reporting in?

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:53:19 2013 No.6406623

>>6406451
It's known as the "black Harvard" because it was historically the best school that black students could attend before desegregation. It doesn't necessarily have the endowment or legacy to compete with Ivy League schools. It's mission is also decidedly different, in that it "takes a chance" on a higher percentage of low-income students.

It used to be that black students who went there had a much higher chance of succeeding professionally than if they'd gone elsewhere; but, of course, this was relative, and if your race is openly discriminated against, you're not necessarily going to find the kind of professional success that allows for the building of an elite legacy via alumni involvement. Unfortunately for many HBCUs, the advent of some amount of parity in economic opportunity for educated blacks was also the advent of educational opportunity (i.e., "Why got to the best black school in the country when I can go to the best school, period?").

As such, Howard is currently a middle-of-the-road private school, with its proximity to downtown Washington, DC; it's partnership with other DC universities (primarily GW, Georgetown, and American), which allows for inter-campus course selection in some cases; and its extremely generous aid packages for qualified students (e.g., you had a really good SAT score but you have a fucked GPA or were too boring for other schools) make it a good choice for a specific subset of students. Not necessarily just black ones, either.

I know your question was like one sentence I'm sorry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:53:19 2013 No.6406624 >>6406574 SUNY ithaca lel nah i'm just fuckin' with you, cornell is aight. I don't go there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:55:48 2013 No.6406628 >>6406623 Er [...]other schools) acting as boons that make it a good choice [...]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:59:18 2013 No.6406646 >>6406554 There's a catch. It's single choice early action for the most part, so you can only apply SCEA to one of them.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:06:18 2013 No.6406683

>>6406623
Not this guy, but I would suggest avoiding DC. The schools are good; everything around them sucks. Well, 90% of everything. It's a company town, and the company is the federal bureaucracy and it's private auxiliaries. Culturally flat and boring, low-energy, etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:10:18 2013 No.6406712 >>6406646 Ah, ok. I expected it to not be so easy. That'll be Harvard, then. 18% is just too good. I'm taking some sleep, I'll be back in a few hours. Thank you very much to all anons who answered my annoying questions, I appreciate it.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:18:48 2013 No.6406745
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>>6406683
Depends on your culture. If you're a politics wonk/activist, or you're into firmly-established culture (e.g., history, science, non-contemporary art), it's a good place to be. We have the Smithsonian, the Kennedy Center, the Corcoran, and several of the country's premiere government research institutions. I like to think of it as New York lite, but everyone is nicer and slightly neurotic and you can actually see the sky.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:31:49 2013 No.6406826 What would be the lowest SAT score for an ivy? 4.0 GPA and president of every club and organization including class, loads of ECs and volunteer hours.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:48:18 2013 No.6406884 >>6403994 dude i want to get into fordham so bad i have no shot at nyu or columbia how hard is it to get into fordham

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:08:48 2013 No.6406950

>>6406826
hey sorry for not being so informed on U.S. college admissions (I'm from Canada) but could you explain to me how does one get a 4.0 GPA? I mean, isn't that essentially a perfect score in EVERY subject? That sounds inhuman tbh. I'm probably getting this wrong but my average is around 90% this year and I suppose that translates to a 3.6 GPA? Which is nowhere near a 4.0.

Also how can you be a president of every club/organization and class? I mean where do you find time to study for all your schoolwork? I was on the student gov't last year and had a special position on it this year + a few other clubs/projects/ECs and I could barely find the time to study and have a minute of free time. Have you been class president and all that stuff throughout your whole HS career? And on top of that plenty of ECs, which ones for example?

I'm sorry this may be a little indiscreet but living in Canada makes this very confusing for me, as I'm considering applying to an Ivy and reading posts like yours discourages me a lot. I'd also have to apply for a scholarship because there is no way my parents would pay for Ivy education, and I have no idea what kind of superhuman skills one needs to have to get a full-ride scholarship or at least something that pays for most of your tuition.

I still have McGill though, it's literally right around the corner and it only costs like 3k a semester but idk if it's as restrictive as an Ivy. Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc5vN2XReWs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:11:48 2013 No.6406964 anybody here go to University of Cincinnati? pls respond

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:13:48 2013 No.6406973 >>6406950 The secret is that you pretty much bullshit at least one of the criteria. Also, I don't know if people are posting their unweighted GPAs or not, but in a lot of places AP courses count as extra points.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:14:49 2013 No.6406979
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Guys I go to Notre Dame. And I'm a college of science kid, most /fa/ friend and best friend is fuccboi film major. Also have super /fa/ international friend but despite this, I am so sad sometimes.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:17:18 2013 No.6407001

>>6406745
But that's just the point. If you ask someone living in New York what they like about it, they don't list off hoary institutions like Carnegie Hall and MOMA. They talk about the actual, daily lived experience of being human in the city. If you ask about culture, if they don't just go on talking about their own lives, they list off a string of artists leading all the way up to the present: they talk about *people*, not institutions.

And what I'm talking about is a lack of vitality, of something more than firmness in culture. It's just plain missing in DC, for the most part, and where it is, it's inextricably bound up with power: money, class, race, or political authority.

>politics wonk

More on this later.

>activist

If you mean someone in the nonprofit-industrial complex, it's the same thing as the politics wonks. If you mean more serious activism, that's what I was there doing, and it's exceptionally tedious. It's almost entirely centered around irrelevantly demanding things of the powerful out of emotional outrage, almost entirely around drones, Afghanistan, Manning, etc. etc. etc. Instead of, you know, actually organizing around the massive racialized violence and injustice in the city. You get some plaintive self-recrimination about gentrifying the hell out of NW and that's about it.

What happens when an unarmed black man in shot by the cops in DC? What happens when the same thing happens in New York?

>government research institutions

This is pretty much the only good reason to head to DC.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:18:19 2013 No.6407005

>>6407001
>New York lite

It wants to be, but for the most part it's not. The H Street area sorts of hits it. Adams Morgan feels precisely like a film set of the Village.

>nicer

Really? Maybe more polite in a ritualized way, but when it comes to actual, unfiltered person to person warmth I've never been anywhere in the US that's beaten New York. And that's one of the big things that always felt lacking in DC.

>you can actually see the sky

You can do that in most of New York, too. Meanwhile, DC gets New York size rents because of the height restrictions despite being vastly smaller.

>wonks, slightly neurotic

And this is what it really comes down to: it's a city made up of middle managers whose main job is not to fuck up in a way that embarrasses their big wig boss. No one moves there for the glamor of anything but pursuing the tightly personally controlled power electoral politics or being a hanger-on to it gives you.

If I had to sum up the difference between the two cities in once sentence, it'd be that DC demands you compromise yourself to get on and New York demands you put yourself out into the world as thoroughly as possible.

Anyway, I didn't mean for it to turn into a NY vs. DC thing, although that probably was inevitable. It's that inherent compromised, toned-down nature of the city I was talking about, and comparisons to anywhere aren't really necessary to do it.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:22:18 2013 No.6407031

>>6406973
All of my courses are IB
Does that count as extra points?
Also my school is rated best in the province I guess that gives me a little bit of an edge?

But this guy here >>6405933 has an unweighted 3.98, which translates to 99.5%, a ridiculously high average. I had an 88% 2nd semester this year, and I though it was pretty good, but the unweighted GPA equivalent is 3.52 which is horrid compared to these guys.

p.s. why is it scored out of 4 seems useless

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:27:48 2013 No.6407062
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>>6403144

just graduated, depends on how you view /fa/ since we're all in uniforms almost all the time.

hated it. love what it did and will do for me.

facilities...well the academic areas are amazing, so are the workout areas, but the dorms/barracks fucking blew.

most people are pretty indifferent, but the cockbags there are cunts.

>tfw your class ring

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:30:19 2013 No.6407078 >>6403512 What does she listen to?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:37:48 2013 No.6407111 >>6404545 Enjoy your gay sex

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:39:19 2013 No.6407121 >>6404716 The USMA class ring has the class' crest but you can pick what gems you want and what kind of metal it's made of

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:40:49 2013 No.6407127 >>6404869 Texas A&M cadet uniform isn't too bad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:44:18 2013 No.6407144 File: 55 KB, 394x526, rick perry texas a&m cadet uniform.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6407127 Fuck, didn't post file

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:44:48 2013 No.6407140 >>6407062 How hard was it to get into USMA? I want to go, but I don't hear many firsthand experiences, and especially not about getting in.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:47:19 2013 No.6407158

>>6407140

i had a 3.0 unweighted GPA...but was an up and coming national level swimmer (pre-3 lower body surgeries at West Point) so i got in pretty damn easily i think.

i wish i could tell you how hard it actually was. there's a healthy rejection rate, and about a 20% attrition rate throughout for each class that comes through.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:50:19 2013 No.6407166 >>6407144 The scarf would be gaudy and gay enough without the ugly A & M colours. Should be replaced with a necktie or something. But otherwise, pretty nice uniform. Jodhpurs and jackboots need to be more of a thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:50:19 2013 No.6407167 >>6407158 Yeah, it's too bad there's no sports that interest me at my school. That and I never learned any as a child. Guess I'll just have to start working as hard as I possibly can.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:51:19 2013 No.6407172 >>6407166 Well this uniform >>6406450 was a lot better, imo

>>	BlakeRyan !Umad72YCVU Thu Jun 27 22:51:49 2013 No.6407173 >>6407144 That's.......actually pretty hot. I could fap to this. Any aggie cadets want their dick sucked?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:52:19 2013 No.6407174 >>6407167 do it man. i was in over my head academically, but the physical aspect i had down pat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:52:49 2013 No.6407177 >>6407173 >yfw those are senior boots >yfw basically all underclassmen have to suck senior dick really hard or they get shit on

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:54:49 2013 No.6407182

>>6407172
Yeah, see, that other one looks a lot better, its the jacket and the necktie that do it, really. Looks like a US Army uniform from WW1 you about 1935. Shit, how did we go from something that looked that cool to the faggot berets and ugly camo 24/7 of today's army.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:55:19 2013 No.6407187 File: 36 KB, 462x510, USC.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] other USC reporting in

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:56:19 2013 No.6407196 >>6407187 >the logo is a fucking chicken

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:56:49 2013 No.6407194 >>6407182 >how did we go from something that looked that cool to the faggot berets and ugly camo 24/7 of today's army Retard generals. I swear, if I make it through USMA, and manage to rank high enough, I'll make the uniforms good again

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:58:19 2013 No.6407203 >>6403527 Ah I wish I got into to Stanford. I go to Dartmouth (computer science) now and turned down Columbia. Dartmouth is somewhat /fa/ because of its preppy roots but since it's so isolated, there are a lot of sweatpants and sweatshirts too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:58:49 2013 No.6407204 >>6407194 Please yes, model it after the SS uniform or Wehrmacht or something. I would join the army in a second to look like that, no lie.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:58:49 2013 No.6407205 >>6407196 yup, one that kills other chickens so that humans win money

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:59:19 2013 No.6407209 >>6403276 I asked who went on /fa/ in the bored@ global board and nobody responded ;_;

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 22:59:49 2013 No.6407207 >be a third or fourth year university student >still lamenting over your high school curriculum you will never get a job anyways because employers can detect autists

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:00:19 2013 No.6407214
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3.7 GPA, 12 AP classes, 2100 SAT, 790 US History, 750 World History, and 710 in Math 1. Model UN award winner, 3 year varsity athlete rowing crew for a team ranked 19th in country, and Eagle Scout
>mfw rejected from UVa, W&M, Pitzer, and BU
>mfw accepted to GWU Elliot School of International Affairs, Emory University and JMU
>mfw too wealthy to get fin aid, but not enough to go private

Whatever, I'm just going to work my ass off, and apply to business schools, and reject W&M's offer. Columbia Business School is the goal.

pic related. I go there. un /fa/ as fuck. baggy frat core. ill fitting polo and VV abound. I wear raw denim, v-necks and wayfarers and called "hipster." Shit, I'm not even /fa/.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:00:50 2013 No.6407212

>>6407001
>>6407005
Oh boy, here we go...

I have family in Brooklyn and I've visited there regularly since I was a little kid. My family is FROM DC, and likewise, been here a while. I can honestly say that DC is a more enjoyable place to live (at least as a college student). What you see as "color" and "warmth," I see as "grade-A douchebaggery." The only New Yorkers I've known to have escaped it are the ones who escaped the city itself, and my aunt who plays steel drum for a nursing home. Washingtonians, in comparison, might seem stodgy, but we're just more reserved in face-to-face situations. That's a sign of respect, and a mutual desire to share on intellectual terms (until we get drunk). Give a wonk a pen and paper and ask them to write down their real feelings and you'll be sent home crying.

And on that note, shame on you for being down on the hard work of the activists (establishment or otherwise) who work their asses of here for the causes they believe in. True, there is no small amount of "corporate" climbers, but the vast majority have a real reason to be here. The business suit is a guise, a dam for the passion that the pen, the megaphone, and the podium let flow freely. It's not any less real, but it's sure a whole lot more dignified.

The sky thing... I mean, not when we're talking comparable prices. I'm in a satellite suburb 20 minutes from the Mall by train for $500 a month. How far uptown do you have to be for that? Even Brooklyn is gentrifying to the point of "no one can live here except the well-off."

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:01:50 2013 No.6407217

>>6407212
And whatever you might personally think of the value of institutions like the Smithsonian, they are not to be denied in any objective analysis. They are the heart of our nation AS a nation; not as a center of commerce; not as a center of entertainment; not as a farm sitting in the middle of a dozen other fields somewhere in Iowa; but as our place on the international stage. New York might have bongos in Central Park, but we have the presidential portraits. National Air and Space Museum too.

This is all ignoring the fact that the cultural centers of the city have always been in the black ghettos which everyone else was afraid to go into. Actually, that's where a lot of the life of the city is, period. Again, most transplants don't know this because they never go north of U Street or across the Anacostia.

DC is what it is. I said "New York lite" because it gives people an idea of what to expect: urban life without the intensity. NYC is nice in many ways, but let's not seriously act like it's America's only bastion of civilization and culture. I know that you want to believe that, as (presumably) a Big Apple native, but it's really not true. There's plenty of that elsewhere, and you can get it without having to deal with the NYPD.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:01:50 2013 No.6407218 >>6407204 I'd probably model service dress in the SS/Wehrmacht style, where as parade dress would be 19th century style. And I'd get a better camo pattern made and a better field uniform cut too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:01:50 2013 No.6407219 >>6407194 >I swear, if I make it through USMA, and manage to rank high enough, I'll make the uniforms good again you go there now?

fascion fashist Thu Jun 27 23:02:20 2013 No.6407223

i went to college in chicago. NU and University of Chicago are total dadcore tier schools, and SAIC is macklemore tier. I went to a uni in the city full of mostly poor people, where /fa/ was understood to be ed hardy and armani exchange, mostly worn by polish kids from the suburbs.

chicago is a great city tho, as long as you stay away from college kids

>>	BlakeRyan !Umad72YCVU Thu Jun 27 23:05:19 2013 No.6407237 >>6407177 >willing to suck anyone wearing those boots idk wut part your misunderstood

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:07:20 2013 No.6407248 >>6407237 Why don't you join their corps of cadets then? You'll be doing plenty of that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:12:19 2013 No.6407278 >>6403332 yo bro fellow aggie here. if you want drugs you're gonna have to SR that shit, .onion mayne

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:14:19 2013 No.6407293 >>6407177 hahahah oh my god you're in the corps aren't you. you're a gigantic faggot

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:17:49 2013 No.6407303

>>6406046
>>6406137
I go to Dartmouth and I definitely like the smaller school atmosphere and the close relationships with the awesome profs. That being said, on the anonymous Dartmouth forum (bored@baker) there's a general feel that "Dartmouth is a college for rich white men that admits women, minorities, and poor people" as a direct result of the administration and years of negligence. We did just get a new president and he seems really cool; it's a close community and in his last email he talked about hosting dinners at his house and learning more about what the student body feels need changed.

I definitely think the "Dartmouth is for rich white men" is overstated and blown out of proportion, but Dartmouth does have its problems. I really love it here and couldn't imagine myself anywhere else, but it's not for everyone. (we are in the middle of nowhere and the D-Plan is weird, but so is NU's quarter system).

For admissions, I am white and a 2340 and a 36 with decent ECs and good essays. I was deferred then rejected at Stanford EA and then accepted at Dartmouth, Columbia, Vanderbilt, Rice, WashU, UNC, Ross @ Mich. and a couple other schools, and waitlisted at Duke, Northwestern, Georgetown, and Harvard; rejected at Princeton and Amherst (both had shitty/rushed supplemental essays, maybe would've been waitlisted if not for them).

It really is a crapshoot and I'd definitely recommend finding someone soon to write a Dartmouth peer rec (best part of the application, no supplements for the applicant) and start working on creative essays for your common app essay and supplements. My first two choices for college were Stanford and then Duke and neither panned out but I'm very happy where I am now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:18:49 2013 No.6407308 >>6407293 No, but I considered it.... for about five seconds until I read about life in their corps. Fuck that shit, I'm not taking anyone's god damn shoes off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:23:19 2013 No.6407328 >>6407308 wait what plz explain i am feelin like one big 2%er right now

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:23:49 2013 No.6407329 >>6407303 >2340 and a 36 pls tell me how

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:26:49 2013 No.6407351 >>6407328 Basically those riding boots are hard as shit to take off, so seniors wearing them will whistle and any freshmen that hear have to run over and take their boots off for them

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:27:49 2013 No.6407356 >>6407351 THATS GAY AS FUCK WHY WOULD ANYONE JOIN THIS DUMB THING AHHH I HATE ALL OF THEM thanks for explaining

fascion fashist Thu Jun 27 23:27:49 2013 No.6407358

>>6407303
the whole "close relationships with awesome profs" thing really isnt that difficult to achieve. i got rejected from the university of chicago, yet now i am friends with a bunch of profs there. we drink beer and chainsmoke together and they talk shit about their students to me. you dont have to go to school to get to know a prof, u just have to be intelligent

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:28:50 2013 No.6407361

>ITT /fa/ does nothing to dispel it's reputation as the board for 4chan's rich kiddies

I'm as disgusted about as much as I want in. It would have been nice if someone had said to me, "Oh, you got that 2160 without studying or tutoring? You should talk it again and see if you can break 700 on math and writing since you're in AP courses for both." And also maybe let me know that summer camp counseling is bottom-tier volunteer work.

>Self-pity isn't attractive anon

Yes, I know.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:30:50 2013 No.6407376

I go to CUNYHunter which is a pretty shit school.

Got rejected from Columbia and couldn't afford NYU's offer to me and I'm basically getting paid to go here so I figure I'll spend my first 2 years here then transfer to NYU later and probably abuse their study abroad programs.

It's not very /fa/ mostly poor people. The classes are hit and miss with some being amazing and some being community college level; you really have to know your professors before choosing a class or else its a total crapshoot. Not much of a campus life kind of a commuter school but I get to live in the city so there's that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:31:19 2013 No.6407379 >>6407356 Yeah, fuck that, USMA, VMU and the Citadel are better anyways, and have better uniforms

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:43:49 2013 No.6407448

>>6407329
I actually tutor for the SAT and ACT now so I can give some advice. I only took each test once and did minimal prep for each (3 practice tests for the SAT and 0 for the ACT) but I have a pretty good handle on how to approach the tests. Basically, the SAT is somewhat difficult and requires more critical thinking skills but you have more time than on the ACT; and the ACT is easy as shit but it's hard to finish in time.

Before you start, buy a Casio watch that has a countdown function and remove the alarm and use that for every test you take, practice or not. (And buy the nicest approved calculator and make sure you're very comfortable with it).

Now, decide which test you want to take based on that criteria or by taking one or two TIMED practice tests in the official SAT or ACT book. Make sure it's the official book (blue book and red book, respectively) and don't cheat or anything like that.

Next, download this .zip file I just uploaded to Mega https://mega.co.nz/#!bdUy1QaZ!F94WykrJaDDfaL6SK7l9NxherC9sno2x6OZh0DvdKpU
and read all of the information; Silverturtle's advice is the shit. It'll give you tips for each section (including the essay) and is overall MUCH more useful than the Princeton Review / Barrons. Also lurk collegeconfidential threads giving tips, but ignore that chances bullshit. Finally, just take the practice tests and make sure you're really comfortable on test day. It's fine to take the test 2-3 times but statistically there's not much improvement over time. I'm confident that I could've gotten a 2400 if I retook the SAT but it's not a big deal after a particular threshold for top schools (~750+ on each section). I got 2 easy questions wrong in a row on CR and the last one wrong on W, but it's really no big deal in the eyes of admissions officers.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:54:19 2013 No.6407500

>>6407361
You're 17 when you take the SAT. You are old enough to figure out shit for yourself, and there are a ton of resources out there. My parents never had any influence on my academics and I didn't get any help from a college counselor or an advisor.

You have to take initiative and do shit yourself, and ASK if you have questions, not expect people to give you help when you don't ask for it.

This is coming from a white middle-class kid who was not first generation and went to an above average public school. And summer camp counseling is a perfectly fine volunteer work, it's what I did for 2 summers. I ended up with an internship after my Junior year because I went out and contacted people in the community and asked for help from my teachers.

Your post makes you sound like an asshole who didn't apply himself (didn't study or look for tutoring) and expected things to be handed to him. Talk about the hypocrisy.

>>	BlakeRyan !Umad72YCVU Thu Jun 27 23:55:49 2013 No.6407502 >>6407248 Dude, I can't even afford a regular university. >tfw shitty community college in DFW

>>	Josh M Thu Jun 27 23:57:19 2013 No.6407508 >>6407376 Hey man, I'll be living in NY and will be attending Baruch in a year.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:59:50 2013 No.6407521 >>6407502 Well if you have the grades, then you can apply for a service academy, which is free, you just have to serve in the military for a few years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:02:19 2013 No.6407532 >>6407448 thanks bro. i took it and only got 1820 after taking some online "SAT prep" class, and i was expecting at least 2200. pretty fucking disappointed, to say the least

BlakeRyan !Umad72YCVU Fri Jun 28 00:05:21 2013 No.6407552

>>6407521
Dude I've failed basics courses and shit with so much real life shit that happens in semesters. Was at UNT for a year with the intention of going into their fashion design program after I finished core curriculum. Tons of real life/job drama shit got in the way, I failed out. Ended up transferring to community college to recover credits (finally back on financial aid loan eligibility after this past semester), but since I still haven't gotten into a fashion design program anywhere, I've been considering dropping out altogether. I've been teaching myself for about 2.5 years (right before I started at UNT), and now I'm 23 and think I'm solid enough to just keep learning on my own. Military would be rough as a gay dude (I'm not flaming or anything, but my interests kinda give it away as a stereotypical thing). So military just to pay for a college degree in some field I don't intend to go into just so I could suck off some hot dudes doesn't sound very reasonable :(

Any other fashion designers here in the US? What did you do?

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:06:21 2013 No.6407554

>>6407500
In hindsight, I know I should have been more vigilant about my college prep, but at the time, I was being told by everyone around me that I was doing just fine. And as following such advice had worked out well in the past, I did not worry.

I find it hard - impossible, really - to believe that someone who is successful as a college applicant does not have someone helping them along the way. Even if they're researching all on their own, something tipped them off about the seriousness of the competition for top spots in our higher education system.

The truth, of course, is that most had helicopter parents or someone being paid to act as proxy. "17" and "foresight" are not often used to describe one another because the latter usually develops with experience.

My sin was naivete; if you have a formula for overcoming the issue of not knowing what you don't know, I'd love to hear it, because my since-developed foresight is telling me that I'm even now missing "something" about what I should be doing in this stage of life.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:08:50 2013 No.6407576 >>6407552 Join the Navy, you can have plenty of gay sex there

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:09:49 2013 No.6407584

>>6407508
Have fun dude I don't know that much about Baruch aside from the fact htat they offer a killer course on rococo art that I want to take. I think i get a little too down on Hunter but its hard not to when I'm constantly around people going to NYU or Columbia.

I still can't fathom how people can afford NYU. I was EFC00000 and they wanted me to pay like 23k a year; do people just take out mad amounts in student loans for that?

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:10:19 2013 No.6407593

>>6403248

Stanford, USC, and other Cali schools for good partying and academics I'm told. Otherwise, two key rules to follow: the bigger the school and warmer the weather, the more fun it will be. Small Liberal Arts Colleges are fun, but they aren't light a couch on fire fun.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:11:19 2013 No.6407598 >>6407584 >browsing UCSD facebook page >"OMG i dunt have enough money for the $650 housing deposit" >"all of my tuition is gonna be paid with loans" #fucked

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:13:50 2013 No.6407610

>>6407532
No problem, a lot of your score is in the approach and knowing what to expect (and timing). Online courses are pretty garbage all around but some reputable in-person tutors (like myself) can be helpful.

Most good tutoring places just give you practice tests and a timer and then score it for you when you're done and answer any questions you may have, but you can find answers your questions on online forums and the like.

The best tutoring places actually teach you things and sit with you as you take the first couple tests, but the benefit diminishes pretty quickly.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:19:50 2013 No.6407646
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>>6404920

My nigga. Engineering is a fashion black hole, except for the occasional skinny jeaned, shiny puffy jacket smoking Korean, but the rest of the school can be exceptionally /fa/. Comes with the territory. Some really rich kids go here, and from both coasts.

Otherwise a great school.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:19:50 2013 No.6407647 >>6407303 Hey man, do you have any advice on essay writing? I felt like I really short-changed my essays that I wrote for entering college, and I'll be transferring so I don't want to fuck up again.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:22:20 2013 No.6407661

>>6407610
So do you think it's actually worth it to take online tutoring? the lady that did the class I took seemed uninterested, but it was also just kind of "do you understand why this obviously wrong answer is wrong? wow great job work on this overly easy problem for 10 minutes"

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:23:50 2013 No.6407671

>>6407647
Avoid all the cliche topics and write an essay that exhibits both you as a person and your writing ability. Don't let too many people proofread it (or it'll lose its initial impact/message) but make sure there are no mistakes.

Try to write on a novel topic and something that is meaningful to you. Buy one of those books of successful college essays and try to recognize a pattern and see what those essays are doing correctly.

Or you can completely make something up-- two of my friends did and they now go to UChicago and Johns Hopkins. Their essays were about a cultural experience in Scandinavia and a scuba diving incident and are both completely untrue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:26:20 2013 No.6407689 >>6407671 sob story about my parents getting angrily divorced and me not being able to focus and being underprivileged, yes or no?

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:26:50 2013 No.6407690

>>6407661
I have no personal experience with online tutoring, but I'm guessing it's as shit as I've heard. The ideal scenario is to be self-motivated and take timed practice tests from the official blue book in your house on your time. Otherwise, group sessions are usually a waste of time and poorly paced, and one-on-one sessions are just for kids who aren't self-motivated and can spend the money.

If you're vigilant and take practice tests at home, you'll be in the same situation (or better) than those kids who pay thousands for personal tutors.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:29:20 2013 No.6407707 >>6407671 H-how? I've heard this a million times, but I just haven't been able to get a concrete example. How do you "wow" the reader of your essay?

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:33:20 2013 No.6407715

>>6407689
Sob stories are generally a no-go and very hard to pull off. However, you can talk about how being underprivileged shaped you as a person IF you can make it interesting / novel.

Generally speaking, you want your college essay to tell a story of a particular incident and use imagery (mostly visual) to make it interesting and engaging. I was lucky enough to have one of my friends who is an awesome writer to proofread everything and give me his input, which was completely invaluable. He wrote his essay about collecting maps and then related it to his childhood and it was amazing. Other good essays that stood out to me include: a girl talking about her job at a movie concession and poking fun at the customers and work-environment, a guy talking about all the animals his family had and being a "zookeeper" in his household and had an extended metaphor for the zoo, etc.

You don't want to talk about an all-encompassing event like your thoughts on high school and how you've changed as a person since freshman year, but rather how one particular pep rally where you had to do something you never thought possible in front of the whole school changed your perspective on something

Try this book: http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/6760126/50_Successful_Harvard_Application_Essays

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:35:21 2013 No.6407726

>>6407707
Here are two concrete examples:
Susie worked at the movie theater selling popcorn during the summer after junior year. She wrote a funny essay about all the characters she met during her time working there and it was very enjoyable to read and led to insight on her personality.

Tom has 4 turtles, 8 dogs, 3 cats, and a gerbil. He's a "zookeeper" and jumps through hoops to keep everything in order. This essay reveals a lot about his personality and sense of humor.

Bad essays:
Summer trip to Costa Rica, sob-stories, generalizations that aren't focused, boring shit

Read the book I posted above and just get a general feel for what goes over well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:37:50 2013 No.6407734 >>6407689 I tried the sob story approach and it didn't work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:37:50 2013 No.6407736 >>6407726 >>6407715 will they know or care if I just lie about my life to sound interesting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:40:20 2013 No.6407745 >>6407726 >>6407715 >productive, useful thread on /fa/ >not about fashion in any way seriously, thanks man

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:42:50 2013 No.6407755

>>6407736
If you're smart about it, they won't know; but if they find out they'll definitely care.

Your life is probably more interesting than it seems. I didn't think I'd be able to come up with a topic, but I ended up pulling it off. My girlfriend thought she had nothing to write about but ended up writing an awesome essay about the time she learned how to solve a Rubik's cube and how each color represents a part of her life and how the white face represents her future at ___ University.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:44:51 2013 No.6407762

>>6407734
Only 2 kids didn't get into the state school near me who probably should've, and they both wrote sob story essays.

One kid wrote about his tourettes and the other wrote about being adopted. I think it can be done well, but it has to be done very carefully / probably isn't worth it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 00:54:50 2013 No.6407807 >>6407755 one last question. do you know if colleges care about weighted vs unweighted GPA?

strawtengu !oxQHe5qDU2 Fri Jun 28 00:54:50 2013 No.6407808
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>>6407584
>>6407598
50k in student loans after 4 years for NYU
>#killme
>#fucked
my only other option was UW. I am regretting the expensive decision more and more every day

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 01:06:20 2013 No.6407857 >>6407807 I'm guessing it depends on your high school's system and how each college looks at it, but most of the time weighted GPA is more important, but the actual letter grade in the class (and if it was an AP or honors class) is the most important.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 01:10:20 2013 No.6407881 anyone from Oberlin? most people just do hipster-by-the-numbers urban outfitters type shit, but ive seen some sick fits around campus

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 01:19:50 2013 No.6407923 >>6407881 I'm a senior this year and am applying there (early probs)... How is it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 01:25:20 2013 No.6407945 >>6407923 good school, pretty decent people. lots of fucking hip kids, but they're generally more friendly than they look. lots of people from la and nyc, really liberal, nice campus, miniscule town... what do you want to know in particular?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 01:28:50 2013 No.6407954 >>6407945 Not a whole lot... I mean I don't really know what to ask exactly. My two main choices are either Oberlin or Rhodes so I guess I'm just deciding which I like more. Are you like enjoying yourself in the atmosphere?

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 01:30:20 2013 No.6407961

>>6407954
definitely, i fucking love it. there's so many different types of people you're bound to find a group of people who you'll gel with perfectly. also cleveland gets a surprising number of great concerts and isn't a terrible town. also pittsburgh is only two hours away and its a blast

don't go to rhodes. memphis is a sad place.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 01:34:50 2013 No.6407973 >>6407961 aiight.. I'm leaning more toward Oberlin anyway... if I can get accepted... How'd you do on the SAT?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 01:36:51 2013 No.6407984 >>6407973 2170

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 01:45:52 2013 No.6408029 >>6407984 Yeah I'm sitting on about a 2000 right now with a 4.0

Reaktion !!w11PY9o2hzH Fri Jun 28 01:45:52 2013 No.6408033 [DELETED]

>>6407554
I knew about the seriousness (all one my), but I just abandoned all hope and adopted a nihilistic attitude.

Then I went to community college, transferred to a shitty state school, and graduated with a worthless degree. At least I don't have any debt, but not having a job sort of cancels out the good feels. I'd much rather have prestigious school debt and a shot at elite jobs.

Reaktion !!w11PY9o2hzH Fri Jun 28 01:47:22 2013 No.6408040

>>6407554
I knew about the seriousness (all on my own), but I just abandoned all hope and adopted a nihilistic attitude.

Then I went to community college, transferred to a shitty state school, and graduated with a worthless degree. At least I don't have any debt, but not having a job sort of cancels out the good feels. I'd much rather have prestigious school debt and a shot at elite jobs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 01:54:21 2013 No.6408081 >>6408040 Sorry dude, good luck finding a job

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 04:36:51 2013 No.6408729 Guys I'm not from the US and I don't know how to convert my GPA; should I put "4.0" and let the admissions guys figure it out? Also we don't have AP/IBs here, what do

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 05:18:21 2013 No.6408853

>>6408040
Again, something tipped you off. Most likely someone. But I digress (actually I'm not but you get the point).

I similarly went to a private school for free and have no job as a result. My parents insisted on it over UMD and USC (both with enough aid to cover all but maybe 30 grand altogether), and I took their advice. At least I got a car out of the deal, but I'd much rather have not had my academic and social life taken out back and shot by a school I didn't fit in at.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 05:36:22 2013 No.6408919
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feels underrated man

seems like the uniform for all altbros here is an m65 510s plaid and boots

how to dress well is doing his PhD here which is like 9" of rock hard hipster cred tho

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 06:11:22 2013 No.6409017 >>6408729 Pls respond

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 07:45:53 2013 No.6409166 >>6409017 yes, put 4.0 if they're not available it won't be held against you

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 08:59:54 2013 No.6409322 >>6409166 You sure that not having any IB/AP classes isn't bad?

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 09:06:24 2013 No.6409337

>>6409322
Rigor is only important insomuch as you took what your school offered/you strove to be a more prolific scholar than your peers at your particular high school. It's not about being the absolute smartest (within reason), but about showing a pattern of pushing your personal boundaries. Geniuses with PhD parents are a dime a dozen; show that you're a hard fucking worker.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 09:07:23 2013 No.6409341 >>6408729 also what was your home scale GPA?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 09:16:24 2013 No.6409359 >>6409341 around 16 out of 20, twenty being perfect and essentially unreachable (even 18 is unreachable more or less)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 09:32:53 2013 No.6409409 Anyone here going to Reed?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 09:49:53 2013 No.6409461 >>6409359 Out of curiosity, what's "passing" on a 20-point scale?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 09:56:54 2013 No.6409484 >>6409461 Usually nine or ten.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 10:11:54 2013 No.6409539 >>6409484 You'll get in then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 10:54:23 2013 No.6409622 >>6409539 >implying you can be 100% sure to get into any school which has an acceptance rate below 30%

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 11:40:53 2013 No.6409767

>>6404323
UF bro here. UNF bro is full of shit. UF is the states best university, top 20 public universities in the nation. Only 30 percent of the population is greek, so it is no way social suicide. I stay away from Greeks like the plague, they're mostly douchebags.

Life is not centered around sports at all. I will give that on saturdays during football season, everything else stops, but for the most part, we are a hard core academic university.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 12:33:53 2013 No.6409917 >>6409767 Then I stand corrected. I was more just going off what I've been told.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 13:33:23 2013 No.6410200

>>6409767
>top 20 public universities
Yeah that's what I saw in the rankings. How does it stand amongst national rankings? And world ones?

>30 percent
Oh that's alright then. But doesn't Greek life offer a whole lot of connections?

>like the plague
Because of hazing and stuff?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 14:19:53 2013 No.6410405 >>6410200 no one really hazes anymore, its outlawed. A sorority at UNF just got a 2 year ban and like a 5 year probation for hazing. The whole Greek culture is just very fake.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 14:23:54 2013 No.6410424 >>6410405 >its outlawed Does it really stop them from doing it? Societies such as EB in UVA have very harsh practices, yet they're not banned.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 14:29:23 2013 No.6410443

>>6410405
I don't know about UNF, but hazing is definitely still a thing, at least at USC (South Carolina). It's more in the area of doing hella chores, being on call to drive drunk sorority girls around, and fetching things for events, but other stuff, like HAZING hazing, goes on too, just really lowkey

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 14:35:23 2013 No.6410460 >>6410443 >like HAZING hazing Any examples? Though I think I get it >really lowkey How can it be? Does it only go on in secret societies or something

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 15:06:24 2013 No.6410550

>>6410460
I don't know if there are any secret societies at USC, but maybe they're just super secret. most HAZING hazing stuff involves copious amounts of alcohol, maybe some humiliation, but by lowkey I mean they can't go around in public doing humiliating shit. Most frats aren't allowed to talk about that kinda stuff. Dumb shit happens too, like some hick frat at Tennessee got in trouble for making pledges butt-chug vodka

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:19:54 2013 No.6410850 >>6410550 Yeah not necessarily USC, just universities in general.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:28:23 2013 No.6410897

Dammit effay help me, I don't know what to do

I want to get the best shot at top universities, and I don't know what I should choose:

Applying for Single Choice Early Action to Harvard or Stanford as well as a few public schools and getting much more chances to get into either of those two (H/S)?

Or...

Applying normal early action to a few colleges (UChicago, Caltech, UMich, UMaryland...) and applying early decision to a top college such as Brown, but getting much less chances to get into Harvard or Stanford?

Shit, I don't like having dilemnas like that

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:32:24 2013 No.6410918 >>6410897 the second is what i did and now i go to UChicago so it's all good then again i wasn't that interested in any single choice EA's so it's really dependent on what colleges you're interested in and how interested you are in them

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:37:54 2013 No.6410934

>>6410918
Where did you apply EA and where did you apply ED?

I'm only interested in Harvard and Stanford for single choice EA. Maybe Princeton, it depends
Other schools I'm interested in are Cornell, Brown, a bunch of other Ivies, UChicago, Duke, MIT... A bunch, actually

So I don't really know. If I could *choose* a school I'd go to Harvard or Stanford like almost everyone, but it would really restrict my choices as I couldn't apply to any private schools EA

Fuck

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:43:23 2013 No.6410970

>>6410424
>>6410443
Florida specifically had a big thing with hazing where a kid died at one University. It's so bad you can get in trouble for knowing about having (even being hazed) but not reporting it.

As for >>6410200
No i avoid them because in my mind they're all assholes.

Nationally its 54th against all other US universities, idk about internationally. We're really good in engineering, science research, and business, though many other programs, like our broadcasting one, are outstanding as well.

If you want a school with loads of school spirt, UF is a good choice

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:43:53 2013 No.6410969

>>6410934
ED'd UPenn Wharton, didn't make it. In retrospect probably a good thing, I'm not that interested in business anymore.

EA'd UChicago, and then I made it so i was like cool

I was also going to EA MIT but after visiting i didn't end up applying at all, the place just gave me a bad vibe and I knew I wouldn't like it there

I also made Duke, Dartmouth, and a couple other less notable schools (didn't apply Cornell or Brown so can't give advice there) but yeah UChicago won out there.

I didn't apply to Stanford. I got waitlisted for Harvard but I was pretty set on UChicago by that point so I stayed on the waitlist to appease my parents but I didn't send them any extra supplemental material, which you should almost definitely do if you actually want to get accepted from a waitlist.

I can try to answer any other questions if you have, I've going out to a grad party soon but until then I'm basically just sitting in my room so I might as well pass the time

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:49:53 2013 No.6411008

>>6410969
Thanks for your answer anon

Strange, UPenn has a high ED admissions rate
Meh, holistic stuff...

>gave me a bad vibe
Why exactly? How was the place like?

>UChicago won out there
Would you say it's really a place where fun goes to die? Did you make useful connections there?

>waitlisted for Harvard
Doesn't Harvard accept like a dozen students from the waitlist anyway

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:56:54 2013 No.6411060

>>6411008
UPenn does have a high ED, but that's for the school as a whole. Wharton likely doesn't, and admit rates can be deceiving because of self-selection. I'm not going to make excuses though, I might just have been a shittier applicant than they were looking for. Either way I think it worked out for the better, so eh.

MIT just struck me as, well, pretty nerdy. Aspergers is honestly a pretty reasonable descriptor. I don't really know what I was expecting but after 4 years of a science-oriented high school I was pretty ready to kind of step away from those kinds of people.

I went for an overnight at UChicago a while ago and that motto is pretty much just a joke. It might have been like that before, but the high amount of applicants has normalized it. It's probably still a bit less fun-oriented than your average college, but at the overnight at least I had fun and even went to a party and got mildly drunk so it was pretty alright. I even still talk to some people I met at the overnight (facebook, texting, etc.) so yeah it was pretty rad.

As for the Harvard waitlist thing I really couldn't say. You're probably right in that they likely don't accept that many, but I honestly didn't look into it because I didn't really care for it very much.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 17:07:23 2013 No.6411145

>>6411060
>Wharton likely doesn't
Oh, yeah. As I see it, Wharton is on the same level as HYP, but everything else UPenn is lower tier Ivy.

>pretty nerdy
As expected. You should see Caltech, though. It's apparently 99% sperglords.
I don't know how MIT can be so reputable for its phenomenal network if its students are autistic.
Were there no normal people whatsoever?

>that motto is pretty much just a joke
Oh really? Okay.
>less fun-oriented than your average college
To what extent? Did you really work very hard, or was it a more serious atmosphere?
Also an anon in the thread said that the environment around the college was dangerous; can you relate to that?

When I asked about connections, I meant a network of alumni to help with profesionnal stuff. The reason why Harvard is worth going to is because of the network, I wanted to know if UChicago also provided lots of connections for the future

>I didn't really care for it very much
Yeah I understand.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 17:16:23 2013 No.6411214

>>6411145
>Were there no normal people whatsoever?
There were (or at least probably were), but most of the people I interacted with, students and prospective students both, were people I would probably not want to interact with on a normal basis. Take a tour and judge for yourself though if you can.

>To what extent? Did you really work very hard, or was it a more serious atmosphere?
um

well

I'm not actually going there yet lol. I can give you my impressions of colleges and my experience applying, but I'm not actually a student yet. For something like that you're definitely better off asking an actual student or alum. The UChicago Admissions tumblr and fyuchicago tumblr (run by current students and alum) are both actually pretty good resources.

>Also an anon in the thread said that the environment around the college was dangerous; can you relate to that?
It's a city college, and it's a city college in Chicago. Additionally, the areas south of Hyde Park are known for being pretty dangerous. If you know how to act in a city, I'd say it's not that much more dangerous, but otherwise... maybe. Again, my actual time on / around campus is pretty limited. I'd say that as long as you stay on campus you've really got not all that much to worry about, though. You might be better off asking someone else about this.

>I wanted to know if UChicago also provided lots of connections for the future
I can't say I really know the answer to that, sorry.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 17:24:53 2013 No.6411271

>>6411214
Yeah. Someone told me "you should only apply to MIT if you see yourself fitting there and only there". I guess that says a lot

Oh okay! Yeah I'll see that. Thanks for the links.

>are known for being pretty dangerous
As in gangs and stuff?
Yeah I'll probably stay on campus most of the time.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 17:33:23 2013 No.6411321
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>>6411271
I wouldn't say stay you should stay on campus most of the time - chicago is a great city - but definitely be smart and safe about traveling around. Walking around alone at night in a dangerous neighborhood, for example, would probably not be a good idea.

If you look at the pic related you can see that Hyde Park (which contains UChicago) is pretty safe, but neighboring areas aren't as much, just statistically.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 17:39:24 2013 No.6411358 >>6411321 Oh, yeah, all the surrounding areas are meh. Well of course I'll visit Chicago, but I definitely won't hang out in the dangerous areas. That is, if I go to UChicago. Heh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 17:44:23 2013 No.6411382 File: 19 KB, 450x458, web.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6404545 >>6403144 >mfw i will have that ring soon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 20:20:23 2013 No.6412127 >>6407646 are you in mccormick? > Engineering is a fashion black hole tfw i dress mfa >and from both coasts feels like almost everyone is from greater chicago, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 01:37:24 2013 No.6413542 bump

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 02:08:24 2013 No.6413674

>>6410897
>I am white and a 2340 and a 36 with decent ECs and good essays. I was deferred then rejected at Stanford EA and then accepted at Dartmouth, Columbia, Vanderbilt, Rice, WashU, UNC, Ross @ Mich. and a couple other schools, and waitlisted at Duke, Northwestern, Georgetown, and Harvard; rejected at Princeton and Amherst (both had shitty/rushed supplemental essays, maybe would've been waitlisted if not for them).

I posted this above, but this is my situation. I'd say apply to the school you can get in early. After not getting into Stanford early I completely regretted it and thought I completely blew my chances at an Ivy League school but I think I was lucky to get into 2 of the 3 I applied to. Many of my peers didn't get into any Ivies (besides Cornell) after applying to places like HPYS early and they probably would've had a great chance ED/EA.

Also, when I visited UChicago I had 1 of my supplemental essays completely written and then deleted it after I visited campus. It's pretty and the food truck scene is cool, but it definitely was not for me. You should visit the schools and get a feel for where you fit in. I probably could've gotten into Yale (legacy connections) but I really didn't like it when I visited so I didn't apply. Be sure to apply for the school and not for the brand name.

What are your stats?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 02:23:25 2013 No.6413718 >>6411060 So sad that you chose UChicago over Dartmouth ;_; they are extremely different schools though >>6411145 Nobody from Caltech has ever been on a fashion forum. And it's like 30% female. At least MIT has athletes and some cute girls.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 04:35:55 2013 No.6414114

>>6413674
>apply to the school you can get in early
Well, look.
Harvard and Princeton have 5% acceptance rates. Under single choice EA, that jumps to 18%.
So technically I have a chance. It's just that if I choose that, I can't EA/ED anywhere else except to public schools.
Also I'll apply to Berkeley and UCLA, of course. Which have higher rates. But they don't have early programs.
>probably would've had a great chance ED/EA
To places like Brown, UPenn and all?
Yeah... I don't know, I'd really like to get into HYPS (especially HYS, Princeton seems too pretentious and "I'm as good as Harvard!" mentality)

Do you think that if I'm not one of the best students in the country, with 25 ECs and a reccomendation letter from a nobel laureate, I won't get in?
It's strange because EA/ED rates don't change a lot between schools. Harvard has 18% EA, Brown has like 24%... It's an increase, but not an enormous one.

>definitely was not for me
Why is that?
I can't visit all schools, unfortunately.
>really didn't like it when I visited
Why, did Yale fit the "snobbish old boys" stereotype?

>What are your stats
2250 SAT, 4.0 GPA

>>6413718
>extremely different
In what ways? Just curious

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 09:15:08 2013 No.6414790 >>6414114 >In what ways Dartmouth is like a LAC. Parties are great and if you're not in a frat you're fucked UChicago is much more hard working and bigger

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 12:53:55 2013 No.6415573 bump for interest

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 13:52:25 2013 No.6415787 >>6414790 >if you're not in a frat you're fucked No. Dartmouth is little and lost in a rural area but frats there aren't necessary. The student community in itself is very strongly bonded. Oh and Dartmouth haz horrible hazing practices, too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:22:55 2013 No.6415951 I've heard (maybe they're stereotypes) that UPenn, Columbia and Cornell students hate themselves and/or their uni. Is it true? What Ivies are really worth going to? http://home.capecod.net/~tpanitz/ejoke/j20.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:32:55 2013 No.6416004 >>6415787 From what I've seen (previously lived near hanover and know people at dartmouth) the population has an even split between the frat bros and outdoorsy types. Anyone apply to Middlebury? I'm going to next year

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 15:00:25 2013 No.6416158 >>6416004 Middlebury is one of the top LACs along with Williams and Amherst right? Like HYP but with liberal arts colleges

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 18:12:56 2013 No.6416976 >>6416158 Yea it's a top LAC It's not too /fa/ very llbeancore

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 19:27:25 2013 No.6417271 >>6416976 Oh I thought LACs were /fa/ the most /fa/ schools are probably HYP, Columbia and NYU

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 23:36:56 2013 No.6418337

I go to NC State, and while there are plenty of /fa/ people there, they're unfortunately drowned out by all the exclusively athletic apparel wearers, frat drones, and engineers (aka neckbeards)

However there's a shit ton of parties and the people are all friendly so I don't mind, plus it's not a bad thing to be one of the better dressed students on campus

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 23:41:01 2013 No.6418363 >>6418337 I used to live around there, NC State is really fun

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 04:07:09 2013 No.6419188 it takes roughly 4 years to find out if a college really is for you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 05:14:07 2013 No.6419352 >>6419188 Elaborate pls

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 06:20:09 2013 No.6419524 >>6415951 This pls

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 07:27:09 2013 No.6419688 >>6419524 Ivy with best environment would be Brown

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 10:26:11 2013 No.6420087 >>6419688 Brown is full of hippies and it's the weakest Ivy.

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