/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.5973289]

why is women's fashion so shitty? do they really look at themselves in the mirror and think "yeah this looks good" every morning?

stuff I see that looks like absolute crap:
wearing a skirt and pants at the same time
dresses that fit like a sack
patterns that look like they were copied from bathroom wallpaper or a couch in a retirement home
stretchy pants
flip flops
fat women wearing clothes for fit women

sometimes I wish I was a fashion designer so I could rescue women from this shit, but I don't want to be a homo.

picture unrelated. men have to try to look this stupid.

[Anonymous No.5973300]

>>5973289
Absolute lazy troll attempt 3/10 for being kind of long

[Anonymous No.5973298]

>do they really look at themselves in the mirror and think "yeah this looks good" every morning?

dude I wonder the exact same thing about badly dressed people. On a semi-related note I also wonder if horrendously ugly/fat people see themself in the mirror with contempt or if they don't notice and think "yep I look good today"

[Anonymous No.5973302]

I love sack dresses.

[Anonymous No.5973303]

You're describing poorly dressed women who probably don't have much interest in fashion.
Go look at the real fashionable women

[Anonymous No.5973309]

I also love stretch pants.

[Anonymous No.5973311]

>>5973289
>why is women's fashion so shitty
it's not
the random women you're see on the street dress shitty,
most of the population do

[twerk it No.5973312]

>>5973302
>tfw no balenciaga couture in ur closet
>ever

[Anonymous No.5973316]

And skirted pants are pretty okay by me, too.

[Anonymous No.5973317]

>>5973309
I don't like them when they have piss stains, personally.

[twerk it No.5973319]

>>5973312
>the spice melange will never warp you into something more than human
>the spacing guild will never recognize your talents

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[Anonymous No.5973322]

>>5973289
I think it's the opposite, we have such little variety with what we can wear compared to girls. Our things are harder to find and often things like shoes are more expensive.

[Anonymous No.5973326]

>>5973289

seriously? fucking stretch pants?

bitch, dese effay as fuck.

[Anonymous No.5973339]

While I'm here, how is a woman who has broad shoulders and no hips or bust dress?

[Anonymous No.5973342]

>Not wearing a sack dress by our Lord and Saviour
>2014-1

[Anonymous No.5973344]

>>5973317

Well, piss isn't a particularly...uh...good look for anyone.

[Anonymous No.5973355]

>>5973342

That's a pretty straight column silhouette, so it's pretty far from what most people would think of as a sack dress. There's none of the outward volume and play between stiffness/softness that I associate with sack dresses.

[Anonymous No.5973356]

yohji

Q: Do you design differently for men and women?

Designing men's clothing is very difficult for me because I don't like too much fashionable men. Do you like fashionable men? Very trendy, perfect fashion. So I think my rule about men's designing is just take it easy from trends. The customer of my men's creation, they are not wearing tie, not businessmen. Almost they're working as a free something. In that case, they can look a little strange and funny. Designing menswear is quite easy - shirt and jacket and pants, that's it. So we have to put some irony or joke or funny message. But for women, spiritually or philosophically, it's the same - let's be out, but women's body is for me like a desert and the blowing of the wind and the mountain of sand is always changing. So I can have so many imagination on women's body because it is always changing. Compared to women's body, men's body is already promised. We can only change sizes or length, width - that's it. But designing women's clothing is like a journey. I think that being strong a designer for women's designer is more important than being a strong designer for men. Historically ... I think the reason is that designing clothing for women we have no roof, everything is possible. Sometimes I feel too free - it's very hard. Freedom and duty is like a coin, surface and back and there always no answer for ever.

[Anonymous No.5973382]

>>5973302
those are only good for women who are fat, pregnant, or trying to look like nuns.

>>5973311
the trendy clothes you see in fashion shows are even worse most of the time. it's like the people making them have a complete disconnect with what actually looks good.

[Anonymous No.5973402]

>>5973382

Nobody looks at runway outfits and says "I should wear that outfit". It's about looking at the idea, taking apart the clothes, looking for a new thought or proposition (a dropped shoulder, a wider pant leg, a raised hemline, a looser gauge knit) that can be translated into real dressing.

[twerk it No.5973406]

>>5973382
nuns are fierce as fuck

[twerk it No.5973409]

>>5973402
sometimes i do

[Anonymous No.5973423]

>>5973402
depends on the designer
some designers im like 'oh shit i would wear that entire outfit' as opposed to other designers who put together their looks with more of an immediate message in mind like thom browne

[Anonymous No.5973426]

>>5973402
yeah well the ideas suck. it's like godawful modern art that someone is wearing.

speaking of models why do they look so weird? they look more like aliens than humans sometimes. I thought they were supposed to be beautiful.

[twerk it No.5973441]

>>5973426
they are beautiful
ur a cunt tho

[Anonymous No.5973452]

>>5973319
I wish I had an award to give you for that post.

Thank you twerk for making my day.

[Anonymous No.5973459]

>>5973426

You're confusing a pin-up with a runway model. If you don't like these clothes, nobody is MAKING you look at them, much less buy them.

[Anonymous No.5973462]

>>5973426
Is trolling fun
Are you having fun with yourself

[fuck !!KqVTtnBlyTe No.5973470]

>>5973426
ur wrong they're supposed to be memorable and distinctive
glamour models are the beautiful ones

[Anonymous No.5973495]

>>5973426

I suggest you expand your definition of beauty.

What is beauty if not "exceptional" and at times strange?

[Anonymous No.5973520]

>>5973339
Like a man.

[Anonymous No.5973574]

>>5973459
but what's the point of modelling women's clothes on what might as well be skinny men?

>>5973495
I'm pretty comfortable with my definition of beauty that says an "exceptional" woman doesn't look like a 14 year old ethiopian boy.

[Anonymous No.5973580]

>>5973574

Because the point is to get people interested, not to turn them on or get them to stare at faces. A good model is both memorable and able to keep the attention on the clothes she's wearing.

[Anonymous No.5973585]

>>5973289
But I like oddball patterns...

[Anonymous No.5973603]

>>5973580
I'm not talking about the faces, I mean the basic proportions. how can you demo clothes that focus on a woman's curves when the model is a stick person?

[Anonymous No.5973607]

>>5973298
Fatties either live in denial or helpless acceptance. Most are in denial. They just try not to think about how they look like an inhuman abomination. Too bad we can't just berate them every day for it until they actually change or kill themselves.

[twerk it No.5973610]

>>5973603
stop

[Anonymous No.5973625]

>>5973339
Wear a coffin, that is the worst female build and your estrogen levels are fucked. Would not copulate. Genetic garbage, pls leave.

[Anonymous No.5973626]

>>5973603

But not every piece of clothing is cut with a curve in mind.

[Anonymous No.5973628]

>>5973610
not until someone explains to me the logic of demoing women's clothes on models built like men

[Anonymous No.5973645]

>>5973628

Even a slim woman will have a hip and a slimmer overall proportion. A woman's figure can get boyish, but rarely will it match the broadness of a man's.

If you want to have a real discussion about this stuff, that's fine, but you just want to be argumentative and okay, sure. I was hoping that a little reasoned discussion would help get you into a mood where you'd want to actually talk instead of just demanding people explain things to you, but...okay. Have fun.

[Anonymous No.5973646]

>>5973626
which goes back to the issue of women wearing pants and clothes that fit like curtains

[Anonymous No.5973672]

>>5973645
models like the woman here go well beyone slim
>>5973316

[Anonymous No.5973685]

>>5973645
models like the woman here go well beyond slim
>>5973316

having models that look as average as possible would make sense. having models that look as beautiful as possible would make sense. going to the extreme in this direction doesn't make any sense at all to me.

[Anonymous No.5973692]

>>5973672

She's skinny, certainly, but it throws that the hard angles and very precise geometry of the clothing into high relief. It's a crude analogy, but she's a hanger that had to walk. Would you rather have a highly specific hanger that you can only put certain clothes on or one that works with many different styles/shapes?

[Anonymous No.5973767]

>>5973692
don't most stores display clothes on mannequins, not hangers?

[Anonymous No.5973774]

>>5973312
I'm not even a woman so I don't know what I'd do with this but I've wanted it since I first saw it

[timber No.5973772]

>>5973302
anti-fit game we in here

[Anonymous No.5973777]

>>5973767

It's just an analogy to talk about how clothes move on a runway.

[Anonymous No.5973782]

>>5973774

Wear it to a formal occasion like the opening night at a theatre or a gallery opening or some sort of charity/fundraiser event?

[ct No.5973786]

>>5973772
does anti-fit just mean oversized clothing

[Anonymous No.5973787]

>>5973774
I don't know what a woman or anyone would do with it unless they're a Mudskin trying to into fashion or something.

[Anonymous No.5973794]

>>5973786

In most contexts, it's a reference to when clothing deliberately moves away from the body in specific ways, sometimes to negate the line of the body, sometimes to highlight other parts fo the body, and so on. Something that's just too big isn't necessarily "anti-fit" because it was cut with a fitted silhouette with mind that just isn't being worn properly.

[turnleft !!t/GvfGACpW7 No.5973797]

>>5973786
Psssssssssssst

it means sruli recht B)

[Anonymous No.5973807]

>>5973777
my point is that clothes are displayed on mannequins which are woman shaped instead of hangers so women can see what it would look like on them. if you're going to get all abstract you might as well just have an actual hanger on a conveyor belt.

[ct No.5973810]

>>5973794
ohh i see
thanks anon u learn something new everyday

[Anonymous No.5973811]

>>5973289
why is men's fashion so shitty? do they really look at themselves in the mirror and think "yeah this looks good" every morning?

stuff I see that looks like absolute crap:
wearing a blazer and jeans at the same time
straight-legged pants that fit like sacks
fabrics that look like they were made from hospital bedsheets
fedoras
cdbs
fat guys wearing clothes for fit guys

sometimes I wish I was a menswear designer so I could rescue men from this shit, but I don't want to have to make any real effort and would rather just complain.

picture unrelated. men will never look this good.

[Anonymous No.5973828]

>>5973811
I agree but goddamnthatpicture

[timber No.5973838]

>>5973786
i like it as a word 4 clothing that deliberately attempts to mask or obfuscate the natural shape of the human body. u dont have to use it tho if u dont want to.

i think raf had different motivations 4 using oversized clothes in his early collections than to play w/ the proportions of the body but idk i dont really follow raf that closely

[Anonymous No.5973875]

>>5973811

I don't really see any issue with wearing a casual jacket with casual pants like jeans.

[Anonymous No.5973934]

>>5973875
boRING + BOREDOM +BOREDNESSS + BORING ON TOP

[Anonymous No.5973991]

>>5973934
>Denim and black