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>Your budget
>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz
>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd-time zone
>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
>Wrist size or desired watch size

previous thread: >>18292548

>> No.18294571
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>>18294567
First for selling out.

>> No.18294572
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The only Patek I’d consider getting

It’s very affordable too

>> No.18294579
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>> No.18294583

>>18294571
kek I love how this anon keeps posting this to shit on Rolex but the general consensus is this watch is cool af

>> No.18294584 [DELETED] 

>>18294571
that's fucking real? oh no no no rolex bros. First the all-niggers rolex AD's and now this.

>> No.18294585

>>18294584
those are old, you can find them on ebay and stuff

>> No.18294586

>>18294572
The last few times I went to the Patek boutique I always left feeling underwhelmed.
Apart from saying Patek on the dial, they don't feel special anymore. They're still brilliantly made, but boring.

F.P. Journe, Laurent Ferrier, H.Moser, Moritz Grossman, etc have that feeling of being something special that Patek used to have. Pateks just feel like a well-finished Rolex or Cartier these days. Maybe they're just too common. I don't know.

>> No.18294588

>>18294586
I think it’s because they now have a main line like AP which caters to rappers and then they have the 1+ mio costing pieces that they don’t have in the boutiques and are only made on demand for famous dictators

>> No.18294594

>>18294583
"the general consensus" is not a good metric to measure things by, clotboy.

>> No.18294595

>>18294571
based 20k a week franchisees in the 80s

>> No.18294596
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Japanese Quartz Watches

>> No.18294598

>>18294588
I know this is 4chan (non-)ironic racism and all that but I don't think rappers have anything to do with it.
I think it has to do with how common they are. Even if you don't see one in person, they're all over the place online. Anyone with a little money can get one.

The small independents are still rare and getting one requires a little knowledge and resources. Though, even that's not 100% the case, since even companies like Moser make their jerkoff steel sports shitters to help finance their special, complicated pieces.

You can put it into perspective a little by considering Cartier's history. Up until the 1980s, if you had a Cartier watch, you were someone. You had to go to a boutique (which only existed in major cities) and special order it. After the Must de Cartier and the Santos de Cartier, anyone could get one and, these days, Cartier is a middle-class mom's watch.

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>>18294596
Posting the best one.

>> No.18294613

>>18294594
My point is anyone who has been into watches for more than 2 weeks knows already about these Rolex, and many collectors think they're pretty cool. They're these fun curiosities from the past that couldn't be made today. I'd get one of these before these turds >>18294596 >>18294600

Also as a Rolex shill I feel a lot more ashamed by the Sky-Dweller or the DJ41 than these.

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>>18294600
wrrrrrongu

>> No.18294617
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>>18294598
Such is the fate of all things commercial.
Every luxury good WILL follow the Porsche-pipeline. A shitty version for middle-aged women and basketballers will be created and abusively spread through advertising masked as "organic content." You're not allowed to have anything nice unless its old, looked-down upon for being abnormal, or extremely expensive.

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>>18294586
True

>> No.18294625
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>>18294614
or this suuuuuuuperrrrrr TITanium
I should've bought this when i was in japan

>> No.18294627
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>>18294625
it has a really nice and dynamic blue

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>>18294620
Nice Longines rep bro

>> No.18294638

>F.P. Journe
>Laurent Ferrier
>H.Moser
>Moritz Grossman
Oversized, inelegant dress watches with bad proportions, like modern Pateks.

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>>18294625
Any experience with super titanium? Is it really almost unscratchable? They go for around 700K which is a bit more than I am willing to pay.
>>18294627
Based. I love blue watches.

>> No.18294643
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Speaking of which, Anyone seen one in the wild?

>> No.18294646
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What the hell is the deal with all these Japanese sellers using the same images? Am I going to get scammed?

>> No.18294648

>>18294646
Is it maybe the same seller but with slightly different condition watches?

>> No.18294650

>>18294627
yeah and a fucking bird on the dial. Fucking stupid nips.

>> No.18294658
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>>18294643
Is this one also 41mm? The lange 1 really appeals to me at 38.5mm.
>>18294613
I don't understand your need for brand loyalty. I like the sneedmaster but nothing else from Omega. I like the vintage air kings but nothing else from Rolex. I like the Grand Seikos without power reserve on the front. I like ALS but only the white gold / argente models. Why can't you just like the things you like? Why do you have to pick a "side" and defend them?

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>>18294648
No, completely different sellers. Even similar Items show the same damn watch from other sellers.
First watch
https://www.ebay.com/itm/387476816487
https://www.ebay.com/itm/365179781833
https://www.ebay.com/itm/166989841929
Second watch
https://www.ebay.com/itm/235797056296
https://www.ebay.com/itm/386915382461
https://www.ebay.com/itm/276574158395
https://www.ebay.com/itm/375620182214
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296609799936
I wonder if some sweaty neckbeard whito piggus are conducting scam operations from japan. I've noticed camera equipment from Japan has been on a severe decline in quality starting from around ~7 years ago.

>> No.18294697

>>18294658
>Why can't you just like the things you like? Why do you have to pick a "side" and defend them?
Because I like 10+ watches from Rolex and at most 1 or 2 from other brands. Rolex speaks to me the most.

>> No.18294717

>>18294620
I like that cut between the lugs and the bezel, makes all the difference.

>> No.18294731

>blusey
>hulk
>pepsi

God I hate you people.

>> No.18294733
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>> No.18294737
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'sup?

>> No.18294740

>>18294737
Hey cool. Your fat ass is finally getting into watchmaking? Looks like you're playing with a Unitas clone there?

>> No.18294747
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Kino

>> No.18294752
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>>18294740
Yep. It's a chink clone 6494
>Captcha: k why
LOL

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>>18294747
Isn't it crazy how every good looking MODERN watch is VINTAGE inspired?

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>>18294768
>Isn't it crazy how every good looking MODERN watch is VINTAGE inspired?
No. Not really. Marketing tells buyers what they like. Vintage-inspired has been the trend for years now and the market tends to reject anything that attempts to stray too far from the design formulae of the 1960s and 70s (but only some of those designs, because otherwise you end up with picrel)

>> No.18294772

>>18294768
Did you attach the wrong picture? Because what you posted looks like they started to make a Rolex clone, realized it would look too much like a Rolex clone, so they decided to make a watch that looked like ass instead.

>> No.18294777

>>18294672
There are a ton of sellers on eBay that are just copying yahoo auctions japan listings with a markup. If you buy the watch they purchase it from the seller on yahoo auctions and then mail it to you. This is why you need to be careful about buying used Japanese shit on eBay or just use a proxy like zenmarket and buy straight from the source.

>> No.18294780

>>18294737
Have you ever tried putting a leather strap on that? How hard is to to do?
I really like the idea of the screwed lug system vs spring bars, which have always seemed kinda cheapo disposable for such expensive jewelry.
I like that model a lot and hope to be able to try it on somewhere one day.

>> No.18294784
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I wish I were rich.

>> No.18294787

>>18294784
shitter

>> No.18294791
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>>18294771
>muh marketing
Major cope.
The 1960s were the civilizational peak of the west. Nothing comes even close in term of aesthetics. Nothing. Everything just looked kino back then: watches, cars, fashion, every day objects. Even the fucking fridges looked nice.

These days everything has to look "utilitarian" in the most retarded way. Like, have you seen the Moser the turkish retard keep spamming in every threads? It has air vents on the side. There's a Calatrava released 2 or 3 years ago with a dial that mimicks carbon fiber. That's what modern design is all about.

You want to look cool? Dress like young Alain Delon.
You want a timeless watch? Get a Datejust or a Tank. It's that simple.

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>>18294791
Vintage Datejusts are pure sex.

>> No.18294807

>>18294752
You’re from Spain? Say hi to my friend Juan for me.

>> No.18294826

whoretadello

>> No.18294830

>>18294791
This is correct

>> No.18294834

no

>> No.18294837

ROLEX
O
L
E
X

>> No.18294839
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I want that fucking bracelet. And as i am not wasting 33 thousand dollars on a watch i will have to make it myself.

>> No.18294841
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>>18294791
>we are closer to the next 60s than to previous 60s

>> No.18294846
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>>18294791
>There's a Calatrava released 2 or 3 years ago with a dial that mimicks carbon fiber.
People rightfully make fun of the Cuckitus but modern Patek has been a mess for quite some time.

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>>18294791
60s watches are indeed based

>> No.18294854

>>18294796
I think the vintage Datejusts look so good because of the simple stick hour markers without lume, the current Datejust with lume look too sporty.

>> No.18294863

>>18294839
This is the only Moser that I really like. I'm not a fan of Moser's extravaganzas, but this watch is really nice, the bracelet is very simple, the bracelet is so pretty because of its simplicity.

>> No.18294867

>>18294863
>the bracelet is very simple
Are you insane?

>> No.18294902

I don't like Moser. They give off strange woke/LGBT/jewish/satanic vibes through their marketing. Very unpleasant.

>> No.18294930
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>>18294641
I've never tried to scratch mine, but the bald-guy on YouTube (Ben's Watch Club is the name) did a scratch test months ago for many different watches, including super-titanium. It didn't fare well in his comparison, sadly, but these things happen.

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Well snap anons, summertime poop operations are officially over.

There is nothing left except to get on with the winter ones.

Thank you for reading my blog. The

>> No.18294945

>>18294567
The Omegatard is going to have a stroke after he sees that picture, OP...

>> No.18294946

>>18294638
>Oversized, inelegant dress watches with bad proportions, like modern Pateks.
Yeah these guys all came to prominence during the big watch fad era. What are they going to do when the tide turns?

>> No.18294948

>>18294791
Fucking this. The 80s were also extremely kino, it was the age of form>>>>function. But I definitely agree. The market has nothing to do with facts.

>> No.18294959

What do when you just can't stand wearing what normies wear but you like Rolex at the same time?

>> No.18294963
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>>18294959
You wear whatever the fuck you want and ignore everyone else.

>> No.18294965
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>makes the explorer look like shit
Heh, nothing personnel, poolex

>> No.18294969

Am I the only one without some deep-rooted illogical hattrd towards MoserAnon and other contributors?
He has done nothing but selflessly try to keep this dump afloat with his near daily watch pics and discussions. Why hate that?
Even if you really dislike the guy for some reason you're not adhering to the ideals of this site; if you want to block, ban or hide something you feel uncomfortable seeing you should try other sites, like reddit.

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>>18294969
How desperate do you have to be to post this lmao
dumb roach

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>>18294948
>The 80s were also extremely kino
>t.

>> No.18294989

>>18294969
Ok, faggot. Now go drink a gallon of drain cleaner.

>> No.18294992

>>18294976
He's barely even trying at this point.

>> No.18294997

>>18294784
Crown confirmed

>> No.18295000

>>18294784
Why? To be a rich cunt?

>> No.18295020

>>18294965
Ugly lugs and incorrect size

>> No.18295032

>>18294969
I don't hate WhoreAnon. In fact, I think he's based.
Feel free to seethe @ my opinion retards.

>> No.18295051

>>18294969
Are you new?

>> No.18295055

>>18295051
No, it's just the cockroach trying to garner sympathy. It's as transparent as it is pathetic.

>> No.18295070

>>18294969
Stupid retard.

>> No.18295073

The cockroach is truly a fucking subhuman

>> No.18295076

who are we talking about?

>> No.18295077

You know who we're talking about.

>> No.18295086

>>18295032
>I think he's based.
Based on what?
We don't care for neither of you.

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reminder that roach got BTFOed a few threads ago. Got put in his place like the punk bitch he is

>> No.18295092

where is the 0/10 anon?

>> No.18295094

>>18295092
Rateanon left a while ago. There were a couple of pretenders who tried to copy his act, but it was a sad copy of the real thing.wth4m

>> No.18295118

>>18295094
You're wrong, he explicitly said he was glad there was another guy doing the same job. It was only one.

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>>18295118
>he explicitly said he was glad there was another guy doing the same job.
Okay, kiddo.

>> No.18295127

>>18295091
How? Qrd

>> No.18295131

>>18295127
He tried to engage with another nascent avatarfag (Anon with an old Omega Chronostop and an old VC) and that guy pretty brutally told Roach to fuck off.

>> No.18295134

>>18295131
I wouldn't call chronostop guy an avatarfag.

>> No.18295136

>>18295134
Correct. Avatardfag are retarded. It's in the word itself, avatard. Avatardfag. Gay and retarded.

>> No.18295145

>>18295134
It's up to him if he wants to become an avatarfag or not. However, this general has only ever seen one guy get to the threshold of being an avatarfag and voluntarily step back.

>> No.18295180

>>18294737
Based
Based
Based
Based

>> No.18295189
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"Whoretadello". A name that struck fear and rage in the heart of the bitter. A man who lived a life of luxury and excess, surrounded by beautiful Japanese women, sushi and nice watches. But what made him truly infamous was his ability to make the bittercel seethe, simply by existing. No one knew much about him, only that he was Greek and had an uncanny resemblance to an anime character, Yuta Okkotsu. He had left his empty life in Germany to pursue his dream of finding a society that fit his outgoing lifestyle, his calm character and his love for cars. He found this in Japan.
Every once in a while,he would grace the /wt/ thread with his presence, posting pictures of his latest expensive watch, delicious meal or delicious woman. Without fail, bittercel would come out of the woodwork within literal seconds, spewing hate and insults towards him. Jealous of his lifestyle and his endless supply of beautiful japanese women. But Whoretadello had allies too. Those who admired his carefree attitude and his impeccable taste and those of similar, if not greater statue such as Omegadrunk and The Citizen The Citizen-poster that would bless the threads with their signature posts. United, they would defend him against the bittercel, causing heated arguments but also providing deep knowledge and detailed conversations about watches.
No one knew how he managed to live such a life in Japan, but rumors started to spread that he was involved in human trafficking. Some even speculated that he was a member of the Yakuza. But no one could prove anything. As time went on, bittercels hatred towards him only grew stronger. Some even went as far as to try and dox him, but he always seemed to be one step ahead, becoming untraceable. And when he returned, it was always with a new watch and a new beautiful woman by his side.
The mystery of Whoretadello only added to his allure and his power over /wt/.

Living rent free in the heads of the Bitter, he marches on to spread his seed across Japan.

>> No.18295191

so i've got the vintage dj rolex and a fun daily meme watch. what do i add to my collection next? im into vintage, gold timepieces. im considering cartier, patek, piaget, rolex and genta. anything helps

t. novice watchfag

>> No.18295192

>>18295191
What's the meme watch?

>> No.18295193

>>18294959
You just buy and wear what you like. If you like a watch, you like it.
Don't take anything posted here seriously, it's all shitposting. God forbid you like a Rolex. They're great looking watches.

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>>18294796
>>18294854

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>>18295192
brew metric

>> No.18295198

>>18295197
That bracelet looks amazing

>> No.18295200

>>18295198
it was $450. i bought it at a watch fair. was mostly independent, upcoming brands. also shite brands like bulova

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>>18295191
you don't need more. But maybe look at vintage breguet, good deals on those alongside Piaget for Gold.

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>>18295198
in hindsight, i would've rather bought pic related watch. its more appealing to the eye, captures a similar retro look, and has a nice case back. unfortunately, the lines for this particular watch were rather long and i didn't have the patience i wish i had. price point was $1k-2k i believe.

>> No.18295207

>>18295204
give me a quick rundown on stone dials. i see piaget did this a lot

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>>18295207
Just google them

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All those Seiko quartz watches from the last threads are making me fall in love with this little mall watch once again...
>thanks /wt/...

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>>18295216
Based Quartz Appreciator.

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>>18295219
Good day, Credorchad. Any development on the Rolex front?

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>>18295220
Good early afternoon m8.
I gave up on that one and maybe about getting another watch in the foreseeable future. I'm always on the lookout for deals, if the right deals appears, then I won't think much about it. About any watch that is.
I'm satisfied with my collection, no need to force anything.

What about you? It feels like the high-end citizen owners are the most satisfied ones.

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>>18295223
I was leaning towards something, but came to the conclusion last night that it's not something that will make me happy. I think I'm done for now. Every few years, I re-assess the watches on my list that never made it to the finals, just in case my reasoning or opinions had changed. It seems however that the original reasons why those watches weren't good enough still exist, so even though it's easier to get them now, it's still 'not worth it'. Also - my lifestyle is slowly evolving, meaning that I now wear certain watches more than before and others a little less...therefore I'm reticent about buying anything else right now. That's about it really...lol

Hope you're doing well and the watches are running as they should. Some great deals right now in Japan...

>> No.18295228
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>>18295226
That bracelet looks very elegant. And I completely understand what you're saying. Many people end up like that after a while, in that I mean that, they end up wearing 3 watches 99% of the time. I already did my "elimination process" and was left with 5 watches at the end and yet I only took 3 with me (the ones I rotate).
And yeah, Japan's got very tempting deals, VERY tempting.

>> No.18295237
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>>18295228
>the bracelet
It's extremely comfortable, however I might disagree with you in calling it 'elegant'. It's very utilitarian to my eyes, continuing the design line of the AT crystal in the segments. The beauty of the design is all angular, and to me that prevents it from being elegant. But that's just my viewpoint on it, so I appreciate your kind words.

The problem for me regarding the watch count is that I do actually use them for different purposes...it's just that I do less of certain things. For instance, I haven't used my divers for a dive in many months...there just hasn't been the time. On the other hand, the Speedies get used all the time (all of them, in fact). So one watch that I was looking at was a Rolex Seadweller, but given that my diving watch usage has dropped significantly, I thought that getting another one is not useful. Add in the frustration of realizing yet again why it never made it to the final list...it's boring as hell but at least not as boring as the Submariner. Three-handers just don't cut it for me unless the design is utterly perfect, and there are too many flaws in the Rolex design (not in the execution, just the design).

Japan has great watches for a great price....I honestly don't know why more people don't buy from there. Even with import duties, it still works out to less compared with a brick and mortar or even an AD (depending on the model, of course). What a strange world we live in.

That Moser of yours will always be a beautiful piece; not my style, but utterly beautiful nevertheless.

>> No.18295242

>>18294620
that is copy homage of TIANJIN SEA-GULL .

>> No.18295254

>>18294965
The holes between the strap and the case... ugh.

>> No.18295255

>>18295000
Mostly so that I don't have to kill myself because I can't afford rent and food.

>> No.18295290

>>18295212
why did they make these bigger

>> No.18295296

Kofe time.

>> No.18295297
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18295297

>>18295296

>> No.18295298

>>18295191
>a fun daily meme watch
>im into vintage, gold timepieces
There are gold capped Weekdaters out there, just sayin', although it'd probably be hard to find one in good condition.

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>>18295298
forgot pic

>> No.18295300
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18295300

ordered this ww2 czech pilot watch clone from nippon. Love the looks, insallah it will look as good live. Japanese quartz, which is nice as I only wear watch a few times a week so my automatic is always stopped and out of time. Will probably switch to nato strap, but we'll see.
Should be bit smaller than similar longiness that was released few years ago, that this one is partially based on, 40mm vs 43mm.

mrmw majetek big turtle if anyone gives a fuck

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>>18295300
kinda excited, been looking for a decent looking quartz that is not sub nor too dressy. Really like the bezel and the way the watch face looks like its sunk deep in the body. Bit of a risk considering there are very few reviews, are these are not really available in the west.

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>>18294614
I like the golden chicken more

>> No.18295309
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18295309

Quartz Bros, is my Hybrid welcome?

>> No.18295312

>>18294847
Was the OG a chunker too?

>> No.18295313
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>>18294863
I saw whoretadello's and couldn't help but think why the fuck did he not go for this instead. This blue is sexy af.

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>>18295216
The penis raised markers ones? Those things kinda activate me too.

>> No.18295317
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>>18295237
Get the 6k meters Omega one.

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>>18295309
The scratchratzu endures.

>> No.18295319

>>18295309
Hybrid?

>> No.18295325

>>18295308
>>18294614
Both are nice.

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>>18295313
Budget alternative

>> No.18295328
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>>18295318
We hanging in there.
>>18295319
Sprung Droive

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>>18295313
You have to see it in person. Also, I love how the brand is hidden.

>> No.18295333

>>18295327
That's actually very interesting, thanks for sharing.

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>>18295329
I don't like that shade of blue and this particular application/texture. And on the brand™ I'd normally agree, but the Moser one is sexy enough to get a pass.

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>>18295313
>42.8mm
Kek

>> No.18295376

>>18295373
Ah yeah, that was the main reason. It's why it also costs much less.

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18295389

G time

>> No.18295391

jesus, these have to be new levels of samefaggotry

>> No.18295394

>>18295376
I'll be honest with you, 40mm is still too big for this watch.

>> No.18295395
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18295395

>>18295312
Yeah it was aways chunky, the new one is more elongated though

>> No.18295400

>>18295389
>Iron Man

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>>18295395
Nice

>> No.18295413
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18295413

Do I? How do I know Clement hasn't rubbed his french balls on my watch?

>> No.18295417

>>18295413
Wait...you don't want that? I thought that was the main selling point.

>> No.18295422

>>18295395
>>18295406
Despite being only about a millimeter wider, the new one wears considerably larger than the old 7970 from the late 60's. It's also thicker.
The old one was basically a square at 41mm wide, 43mm lug-to-lug, and 13mm thick.
The new one is 43mm wide, 49mm lug-to-lug, and 13.6mm thick.

Once again Swatch prevents Longines from making a watch that could threaten Omega sales.

>> No.18295428

>>18295400
>Iron Man
now I can't unsee it

>> No.18295436
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18295436

Are there good websites out there there that compile or aggregate up-to-date lists of all the new watches coming out from every brand? I mean normal watches even from small time brands that normal people could buy on impulse, I don't mean
>"WOAH, Cartier just announced a run of 100 Rondes with dials made out of scales from an actual dragon's pussy lips, MSRP $1billion"

>> No.18295443

>>18295436
No, not really. You have to just keep up with the industry rags yourself, unfortunately.

>> No.18295445

>>18295443
I just have to manually go to each watch company's website myself whenever I think of it to try to stay up to date, and it's shit because it's actually pretty often that I'll go to the hamilton or casio or nivada or somebody's website and find they came out with some new watches that actually look pretty cool but none of the shills or watch news sites are talking about them.

>> No.18295462
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Blue dials are cringe.
40mm stainless steel time only watches are cringe.
Blue dial 40mm stainless steel time only watches are beyond cringe.

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>>18294643
>>18294620
Grossmann makes my absolute favorite high horology movement, but for some reason there isn't a single "normal" model with that full-size movement.
Not a single one of their models has:
1) the full-size movement
2) a simple dial (so no power reserve etc.)
3) the old-school logo

It's fucking maddening, I just don't understand.
The closest you can find is the tremblage, but that dial is just too blingy for most occasions.

>> No.18295479
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>>18295473
Not the Tefnut 39mm?

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18295482

>>18295479
The dial on that is exactly what I want: simple, no power reserve, old-school logo.
But the problem is that this is their 39mm model, meaning it doesn't have the full-size movement (which is 36mm).
Instead it has their small 26mm movement, which has the same architecture but is a lot smaller. I would say too small for the case, hence the giant spacer (see pic).

The only full-size model they sell with a simple dial and the old-school logo has their automatic movement.

>> No.18295485

>>18295482
Oh, I see what you mean.

You know, they're a small enough company to where if you write to them, they might actually consider making a run of them or just a unique piece for you. Especially a straightforward request like yours.

Check out the "Personalize" section of their website.

>> No.18295486

>>18295462
Why is a color cringe?

>> No.18295489

>>18295485
I have no doubt about that, but it's still pretty amazing how they keep releasing new models and special editions yet they never once manage to hit the mark: a basic simple full-size model.
They really need a new design director.

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18295493

Hail to the King (Seiko), baby!

>> No.18295494

>>18295486
>Why is a color cringe?
Laggard. The stainless steel blue dial sports watch trend has been dead for years. All that's left is a bunch of Johnny-come-latelies trying to dickride off a trend they missed and a bunch of flippers trying to squeeze a few more shekels out of easily gulled customers.

Companies making them in 2024 are not selling them to customers they take seriously. People buying them in 2024 are not to be taken seriously.

>> No.18295495

>>18295489
Apparently not enough people care. But, like they themselves say: we'll make basically anything for you. Just ask.
That means the model basically exists, just off-the-menu.

Were you hoping for it to be a full-production model so someone else could take the depreciation hit and you would buy it used?

>> No.18295498

>>18295495
>Were you hoping for it to be a full-production model so someone else could take the depreciation hit and you would buy it used?
kek nah
I'm just not a fan of customization. I kind of cringe at how so many independent brands give the client that ability to mix and match.
To me it sort of signals how the brand itself doesn't know what it's doing in terms of design to a degree.
Also I feel like mixing and matching is for kids; like assembling bracelets or building a character when you start a video game.

>> No.18295499

>>18295494
The only way this post makes any sense is if we're talking about Tiffany blue.

>> No.18295501

>>18295493
Based

>> No.18295502

A 39mm dress watch is annoying. A dress watch cannot be larger than 36mm, in fact, 36mm diameter on a dress watch is already huge. Are all these independent watchmakers not capable of making a watch with a decent size?

>> No.18295503

>>18295413
Why is the date wheel not beige as well?

>> No.18295504

>>18295486
>Why is a color cringe?
The trending color. Blue for sports watches, then Tiffany blue, then dark green... now it seems that the next trend is purple. All these "fun" watches are embarrassing.

>> No.18295505

>>18295445
Try Fratello.

>> No.18295506

>>18295502
There's a reason the mean in terms of watch size trends always returns to ~39mm, that's just what looks objectively most proportional on most men's wrists.

>> No.18295510

>>18295506
>39mm, that's just what looks objectively most proportional on most men's wrists.
It's true with sports watches, but I don't agree with dress watches.
A dress watch should be a little small and the leather strap should gain presence.

>> No.18295511

>>18295498
I disagree. A tiny brand like Moritz Grossman that makes like 200 watches per year can set itself apart precisely because they can offer a pièce unique at a "reasonable" price.
It doesn't signal that the brand doesn't know what it's doing. It's a signal that the brand knows it can do a lot more than it has the capacity to produce

If you wanted a custom Patek or Cartier, you'd have to be a very well-established customer for them to even hear you out and it would be incredibly expensive. A custom Moritz Grossman would not be appreciably more expensive than a catalog model because, ultimately, all the watches they make are custom.

>> No.18295513

>>18295502
>>18295510
Some of those 39mm "dress" watches aren't actually dress watches. They're just called that by hack journalists who don't know how to categorize a watch that isn't meant for a specific sport.
It's part of the "box ticking" marketing strategy.
>You need a dive watch and a travel watch and a chronograph and a field watch...
If you don't give it an easily defined role, now you have to work a little to explain why the watch is good.

This is basically all of JLC's Master collection.
What do you call those? "Watches that you would wear instead of a Datejust if you want something that's not on a bracelet?"

>> No.18295516

>>18295511
I'm not saying they shouldn't offer customization, they absolutely should.
But they should first and foremost offer an appropriate standard production range, which they really don't.

Their bread and butter is the 41mm case with the 36mm movement, but they don't have a single uncomplicated 41mm model in their entire roster.
That's just stupid.

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>>18295510
Even with dress watches, proportionality matters.

See pic, the bottom configuration will always be more proportional than the top.

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>>18295516
>>18295516
>But they should first and foremost offer an appropriate standard production range, which they really don't.
No they don't. They don't need to at all. Someone else can make boring normal models.
A company that makes this is better.

>> No.18295522

>>18295521
You're a fucking retard.

>> No.18295523

>>18295516
You're the reason your friends have to make sure any restaurant you all go to has a chicken finger basket on the menu.

>> No.18295524

Quality horological discussion

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>>18295521
My brother in christ, adding a slit under the logo for the power reserve doesn't make the watch any less boring.
All it does is make the watch look more retarded.

>> No.18295526

>>18295522
I accept your concession.

>> No.18295528

>>18295495
>Were you hoping for it to be a full-production model so someone else could take the depreciation hit and you would buy it used?

I think you hit the nail on the head with this.

>> No.18295530

>>18295523
nta, but the cheaper the restaurant the more you get to customize the dishes.
In the absolute finest restaurants, the head chef will personally come and yell at you if you dare open your pleb mouth and suggest an alteration to one of his dishes.

epic self-own, dumbass.

>> No.18295531

>>18295513
For me, a dress watch is a watch made of precious metals. It can be simple or complicated. It usually has a leather strap. The dial can be something classic and simple or something more creative, handcrafted and creative. A dress watch can be close to jewelry, so it is important to keep the size compact, a huge yellow gold watch is not elegant.

>> No.18295532

>>18295530
>things I've seen on TV shows are real.
I take it back. You don't go out to any restaurant with friends. That would require having friends.

>> No.18295534

>>18295532
Your Karen ass mom can bully the staff at your local Denny's into changing every little thing in the menu item, but that shit is not happening at anything close to Michelin star level.

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18295536

g-guys stop fighting about restaurants and post your collection.

>> No.18295537

>>18295534
How would you know? Working at the Sizzler doesn't give you as much insight into fine dining as you think, kiddo.

Enjoy your Casio.

>> No.18295538

>>18295536
Fuck off. You posted that dogshit already. This general has too many avatarfags already.

>> No.18295539

>>18295520
The top pic looks like a 28mm women's watch.
The bottom pic looks like a 36mm watch

>> No.18295540

>>18295536
what's the sum price of these? can someone do the math? I don't recognize many of them

>> No.18295543

>>18295531
>For me, a dress watch is a watch made of precious metals
Check
>It can be simple or complicated.
Complications usually increase the size/thickness of the watch but are not disqualifying in and of themselves
>It usually has a leather strap.
Always

>The dial can be something classic and simple or something more creative, handcrafted and creative. A dress watch can be close to jewelry, so it is important to keep the size compact, a huge yellow gold watch is not elegant.
Exactly.

But the question in the post you were responding to was "What are watches like a JLC Master Calendar"?
They're not dress watches, but they're not sport watches either.
Office watches? Business casual watches?

>> No.18295544

>>18295537
The better the restaurant, the less you get to choose the contents and order of the courses.
Hell, you don't even get to choose the wine anymore starting at a certain price point.

>> No.18295545

>>18295531
Generally an actual dress watch you would bring out for fancy occasions is uncomplicated as a matter of practicality. The most common complications are things like day and date and other calendar functions, which if you're dressing up for a special occasion you already know what day it is. No complications also means the watch can be thinner and more comfortable. It also means it's very fast and easy to wind and set the time. There are a number of reasons it makes a lot of sense to choose the simplest possible watch.

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>>18295539
Pic is a 36mm watch on a lady's wrist.

>> No.18295547

>>18295540
Probably around 1000 USD total, most of it taken up by the Oceanus.

>> No.18295551

>>18295546
She is not wearing the watch in the right position, it is not on her wrist, the watch is almost on her forearm. That is why the watch looks smaller.

>> No.18295552

>>18295551
>She is not wearing the watch in the right position
It's like an inch off.

99% of the wristshots you're going to see online greatly exaggerate the size of the watch compared to the wrist.
That pic of mine is roughly how a 36mm watch head looks irl.

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>>18295536
my bloody shitters

>> No.18295555

>>18295554
Goodness gracious.

>> No.18295556

>>18295554
very acoustic collection

>> No.18295557

>>18295554
It's like if Kevin O'Leary instead worked at a gas station.

>> No.18295561

>>18295554
what car do you drive? what's your edc? there must be more symptoms

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WOAH CURRENT THING

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>>18295315
Yes. The design is impeccable. If I didn't have the Citizen, I'd have one of these for sure.

>>18295317
It was on the list that didn't make it to the finals. I love the new one in stainless steel with the black dial; it's perfect, even on wrist. The problem? I already have 2 divers that I prefer, so if I were to get this, then that would open the floodgates to get the Ploprof Titanium no-date as well, and others. They're all great watches, but I truthfully won't have the opportunity to wear them, so I'd rather get something that is now outside of what I have. I don't need another 'variation on a theme', and I have enough 3-handers that don't do anything other than tell the time. I don't have a GMT, for instance (though I think the complication is useless in my life), or a tourbillon, etc...so those would be higher on the list. Similarly too, I don't have any precious metal wristwatches, so there is a temptation to finally go for something yellow-gold or platinum. Again though, the watch has to be aesthetically perfect for me to even consider pulling the trigger, and it's really tough to find perfect watches these days.

>> No.18295589

>>18295543
>Office watches? Business casual watches?

Those are reasonable enough terms. "Normal" watches, I guess. The whole idea of breaking out watches into a million different categories is still pretty new compared to the how long watches were just watches.
The specialized watches all got their own category while the normal watches were left behind.

It's a shame, really, because a steel/white metal, 36-39mm-ish watch, on a leather strap is a really good look that lots of men dismiss out of hand as a "dress watch", while wearing clumsy-looking dive watches.

>> No.18295597

>>18295502
This is absolute fucking horseshit. A 39mm watch is literally the perfect size for a dress watch on any normal sized wrist.

>> No.18295612

>>18295597
Some people still like the old style rules.

For me, 39mm is fine, as long as the watch isn't too thick. Under 10mm is fine.

>> No.18295616

avatard

>> No.18295622
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18295622

So in hindsight after the whole Cubitus debacle, what were some clear signs that Patek Philippe is being run by an out of touch and vulgar CEO?
Pic related.

>> No.18295623

Retards still in the thread? Fucking hell why don't you guys just make a thread without the retards, I just want to talk about watches with normal people.

>> No.18295624

>>18295623
Triggered lil snowflake. Seethe and cope.

>> No.18295629

>>18295622
The beginning of the end was when they discontinued the Calatrava 3919 in 2006.
I remember even at the time people were pretty shocked. It was like Cartier discontinuing the 25mm Tank LC. Even a fashion-conscious brand like Cartier insisted on keeping the traditional size. Patek decided bigger is better.

>>18295623
>Fucking hell why don't you guys just make a thread without the retards
We tried. They keep following us.

>> No.18295631

>>18295629
There was a thread like a month or two ago that was perfectly normal, I thought that /wt/ was finally coming back. Oh well back to other hobbies.

>> No.18295633
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>>18295629
>they discontinued the Calatrava 3919
Nah, that was a sound decision.
Pic very related.

>> No.18295635

>>18295633
Yeah, you're right. The gross, stretched-out 5119 was even better.

>> No.18295636

>>18295631
>There was a thread like a month or two ago that was perfectly normal, I thought that /wt/ was finally coming back. Oh well back to other hobbies.

There are certain times of day when /wt/ is good. When Whoretadello isn't trying to farm (You)s or OmegaDrunk isn't samefagging himself into next week, there's a decent percentage of actual, watch-related discussion.

>> No.18295638

>>18295636
Yeah like the high quality shitflinging about grossman

>> No.18295639

>>18295554
That's what a pajeet would wear

>> No.18295641

>>18295638
That was going fine until anon couldn't accept that a company did currently not make a watch to his exact taste (even though they would, in fact, make a custom watch to his exact taste) and he had a little hissy fit.

>> No.18295650
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18295650

This is the sexiest watch released in years, possibly decades.

Unrelated subject: I'm eating at McDonald's tonight. You jelly?

>> No.18295664

Is it possible to have only one watch if it's a dress watch?
The only watch I like is the Cartier Tank.
Realistically, I always have my phone with me anyway and I'm not going swimming with a watch on a leather strap.
Why do people keep telling me I need at least three watches?

>> No.18295675

>>18295664
>Why do people keep telling me I need at least three watches?
This is 4chan anon. Autismo central.
People like to make up stupid rules about meaningless shit.

>> No.18295676

>>18295664
No you can’t. We keep telling you that because it’s not possible otherwise.

>> No.18295680

>>18295623
>I just want to talk about watches
>with normal people
Do you hear yourself talk? Just think about what you just said.

>> No.18295690

>>18295664
For a hundred years men have been just fine having just a dress watch.

Sports watches are a sad LARP. Pilots no longer wear pilot's watches. Dive watches are no longer worn by actual divers on dives, or even people who dive at all. (Sometimes they'll use excuses like, "Oh, I haven't gone diving in years." when what they mean is they once went snorkeling on vacation a decade ago.)

At worst, if you NEED to wear a watch in a situation where your Tank is inappropriate, you probably would be best served by a cheap G-Shock.

>> No.18295722

>>18295521
nice bird
fag

>> No.18295731
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>>18295622
>>18295629
Patek's decline was gradual, over about five years.
In the early 2000s they were still making discreet watches.
The decline began during the last years of Philippe Stern, when Thierry Stern began to take over.
> In 2006, the ref. 3919 was discontinued
> In 2006, the ref. 5110 was discontinued
> In 2007, the ref. 3940 was discontinued
That was the heart and soul of Patek: the dress watch, the perpetual calendar and the world time. Patek still makes these kinds of watches, but has abandoned the classic proportions.
By the way, all this coincides with the introduction of the Nautilus ref. 5711. They have had something similar happen to them as AP did with the Royal Oak, everyone wants a Nautilus or an Aquanaut.

>> No.18295739
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>>18295731
I don't blame Patek for discontinuing these watches. The demand will dry out at some point.
I don't blame them either for making bigger watches. I hate this trend but they have to adapt to the market and produce what consumers want.

I blame Patek (well, Thierry Stern) for:
>ugly designs
Everything is hideous and tacky now.
>lack of vision and soul
They just shit out watches without any sort of coherence. The language design is all over the place.

Patek should be what FP Journe is.
Traditional-ish design, innovative complications and overall just a lot of fun.

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>>18295739
>Patek should be what FP Journe is.
I'm not sure about that.

FP Journe is so small and niche that they can afford to make designs that are wild (and even, some could argue, ugly). The little independent makers can push the envelope and evolve wristwatch style in a way the larger companies can't. I say that as someone who loves FPJ, but if it said Patek on the dial, it would be an abomination.

Patek, to me, is about the ultimate sober, serious watch in terms of horology and design. Pushing technologies is fine. Tweaking sizes to match current trends is fine (Otherwise they'd still be making nothing but pocket watches) but trying to appeal to younger buyers with stupid shit like denim-themed dials just makes them look like the "fellow kids" meme.

>> No.18295764
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18295764

>>18295739
>>18295752
I am a huge fan of FP Journe and Daniel Roth.
I think that the decline of Patek coincides with the discontinuation of these three models. It was partly the fault of the Stern family, but above all, as you point out, the change in consumer taste. People demand larger and larger watches. They had to adapt to the demands of the market.
The same thing happens to me with cars or men's fashion, I would simply like to live in the late 50s and early 60s.

>> No.18295778
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18295778

For me? It's bruh gay.

>> No.18295810

>>18295752
fuck off pretentious avatardfaggot

>> No.18295815

>>18295764
roth is a no name clown

>> No.18295827
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>>18294571
Patek also has double-signed watches and it looks better than any modern Patek.

>> No.18295829

>>18295815
why?

>> No.18295848
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18295848

I like the double functionality of chrono divers

>> No.18295850

>>18295848
great when you are racing underwater

>> No.18295854

>>18295810
>>18295815
why don't you go fuck yourself, you jealous poorfag.

>> No.18295856

Why don’t Patek Philippe, Vacheron Constantin, and Rolex hang out much?

Because every time they try to meet, the Patek insists on passing the time, the Vacheron’s busy winding down, and the Rolex? It just keeps going round in circles!

>> No.18295860

Why did Casio and Patek Philippe stop hanging out?

Because every time Casio suggested a fun activity, Patek said, “Sounds great! That’ll only cost you… your entire month’s salary.”

>> No.18295865

Why did Rolex and Omega start a band together?

Because Rolex wanted to play the timing right, while Omega just wanted to go for the spacey sound!

>> No.18295875

anon please

>> No.18295878

>>18295875
Why did Omega get kicked out of the watch store?

Because it kept trying to moonwalk its way into every conversation!

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18295899

I am...superior...

>> No.18295914

>>18295827
Probably because those other companies make sure that their name appears on a good looking watch, not a shitter.

>> No.18295917
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18295917

What do you jokers think about Tissot? With Seiko continually offering less for more, entry Swiss ain't looking so shitty anymore

>> No.18295922

>>18295917
Reddit watch with plastic gears. #1 Royal Cope

>> No.18295924

>>18295917
Pretty decent value for the money. Moreso than Seiko and a lot of microshitters offer.

>> No.18295929

>>18295922
What's a Reddit watch? Have there been any documented issues with the plastic parts?

>> No.18295935
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18295935

let me guess - you *need* more?

>> No.18295940

>>18295739
>>18295731
You're only talking about models but there was an apparent observed drop in their QC around the time they dropped the Geneva Seal for their own farcical mark which was also around the time they basically doubled yearly output and their repair and maintenance times stretched to infinity. The above things are not separate incidents but rather must all be interconnected. The rumor was that in order to increase output the apprentice filled servicing part of the company was brought in fill the labor shortage and work on watches they had no business touching for a few years yet. Watchmakers don't grow on trees. By Patek's own boast it takes 10 years to train one for them.

How did they bump up their production numbers by 10's of thousands in a few short years? Where did the extra skilled labor come from? Why, around that time, were collectors all over the net bitching about a noticeable decline in Patek quality all over the board, from QC with new watches to sloppy qc and extreme wait times for serviced watches?

Patek got too greedy because of all that easy chinese money, which was being made available in full abundance also around that time. They all got greedy, mind, but Patek had perhaps further to fall considering their reputation built up over decades.
Fuck em
Their designs are crap and their shit's all retarded.

>> No.18295955

>>18295854
poorfag avatardfag

>> No.18295995

>>18295764
It coincides with a lot of things. You're getting more at the degradation of their design while >>18295940 is talking more about the degradation of their manufacturing quality.

In both cases, it's more sad than surprising. In the 80s and 90s, Patek put out some extremely dodgy designs like the Neptune but they always produced their icons. More importantly, those ugly shitters were still extremely well made and finished.

The crazies thing to me is the timing. In the 90s and early 00s, the watch buying public wasn't that aware of things like movement finishing. That would have been the time to send QC to shit. But to reduce quality just around the same time that the public is really coming around to the idea of the art of watchmaking is just inexplicable.

>> No.18295997

>>18295764
Tarder Broth

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>>18295997
>t.

>> No.18296006

>>18294584
it's a corporate commission. companies would contract rolex to produce branded watches as long-service gifts for upper levels of corporate management. they weren't spending that much money on any fucking scrub and no, they weren't merchanidizing for the general public. lol, lmao even at the idea.

>> No.18296016

>>18295690
>Dive watches are no longer worn by actual divers on dives,
that's not true though. the royal navy still issues watches and us navy still require their divers have watches (actually so do most navies) and gue divers use watches because they don't typically use computers as dives are pre-planned and manually timed for the sake of safety. commercial divers may or may not wear watches. it's really only padi-type recreational divers that rely on computers and those guys are basically fucking retards that drop like flies.

>> No.18296021

>>18296016
>us navy still require their divers have watches
t. Former US Navy diver here.
Do you know what all of us used? G-Shocks. 200m WR is enough.
We were issued dive computers, like every diver for the past thirty years.
I saw exactly ONE (1) "dive" watch worn on a dive in my time. It was a Seamaster 300 Bond worn by a desk jockey on a training dive.

When you've actually been in the military, the "military tough" connection watch companies like to push becomes the most hilarious joke.

No one's issuing anyone a fucking dive watch that costs more than their annual salary. It's always easier to just let them drown and train up the next retard. ell emm eff ay oh.

>> No.18296031
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>>18295878
These all sound like they were generated by chatgtp.

>>18295664
I will never tell you that you need at least 3 watches. You just need watches that you love; if the number is 1, then you winrar. I take the position that watch categories only exist today to encourage buyers to have more than one thing that is supposed to last a lifetime - if it lasts a lifetime, you only need 1...hence.

>>18295690
I dive with my watches, Fren...just haven't been for the past 8 months due to other responsibilities.

>> No.18296045

>>18296031
Don't respond to me you avatard you faggot. Stick to sucking the roach's cock.

>> No.18296057
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>>18296045
You sound like a nice Fren; why not join in the discussion with us? What watch are you wearing today, Anon?

>going with my 'dress' watch...though it's actually a sports watch I use when playing polo...

>> No.18296060

>>18296045
Based as fuck.

>> No.18296070

>>18295995
It's interesting; since the term 'Holy Trinity' referring to PP, AP, and VC was coined, all three brands have really slipped in terms of prestige. The only thing they've really got going for them is that they're old.

It's almost as if the mass market becoming aware of them is a corrupting influence.
It's not unique to those three either. It happens all over the place. Look at Moser, for example.
They used to make precious metal dress watches in a classically-inflexted style with wildly over-engineered movements...now they make steel sports shitters for mouthbreathers who can't source a Royal Oak.

Pre-Meylan Mosers are incredible. Post-Meylan Mosers: We made a watch out of cheese trololololol!

>> No.18296076

>>18296045
I think that probably hurts his feelings. OmegaDrunk is IRL gay, if you didn't know. I'm sure he knows the difference betwenen 4chan "faggot" and actual "faggot". But maybe be a little more sensitive.

>> No.18296088
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>>18296076
Do you need help, Fren? If so, I am here for you. Post your watch, and we'll talk a bit, but only if you feel like it.

>you are special too. Never doubt that.

>> No.18296092

This Omegafag's a thirsty old queen, isn't she?

>> No.18296094
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>>18296092
Have you been so bereft of compassion in your life that you don't recognize it when it appears? I'm here for you, Fren.

>you are not alone.

>> No.18296096

>>18296092
>This Omegafag's a thirsty old queen, isn't she?

In his (her) 40s? Check.
Unmarried, no kids? Check.

There's no way he's allowed within 1000 yards of a school.

>> No.18296104
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>>18296096
You still haven't posted a watch, Fren. It's /wt/, after all. Come, share with us what watch you're wearing today; maybe it'll be one that inspires another Anon to look for it and buy it himself, or to discover a range or brand that they haven't yet looked into.

>it's not your fault, Fren. It's not your fault.

>> No.18296110

>>18296070
>Pre-Meylan Mosers are incredible. Post-Meylan Mosers: We made a watch out of cheese trololololol!
True, but pre-Meylan, they were losing huge amounts of money on every piece. The Meylans kept the brand alive. Like it or no, you need steel sports shitters to sell to the tasteless sneakers-and-sweatpants crowd.
I would have liked them to keep the classic Endeavours and Venturers alive, but maybe they'll come back to them eventually.

>> No.18296115

>>18296096
Just ignore the cocksucker. All the normal posters do.
Whoretadello will be on his break from his job as a cashier soon enough to where the two can pretend to be friends.

>> No.18296121

>>18295254
Are you retarded?

>> No.18296123

>>18295778
>>18295764
>>18295752
>>18295739
>>18295827
>>18295848
So many horrible watches.

>> No.18296136

>>18295917
made in china or thailand, depends which swatch group factory

>> No.18296161

>>18296121
No he’s right. I also hate those gaps.

>> No.18296162

>>18296136
lmao what isn't?

>> No.18296163

>>18296161
If only they'd moved the lug anchor points inward and used curved springbars.

>> No.18296171

>>18295290
Bigger than what?

>> No.18296183
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strap suggestions? finally got a watch with lug-width that isn't miserable to buy straps for.

>> No.18296185

OD making them seethe since the /g/ days. simply based

>> No.18296195
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I've always been happy with this watch...but sometimes it's nice to be reminded.

Bless Jack Forster...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sXNWW74ono

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>>18296185
It might not be 'them'...it's definitely possible it's just BreitlingAnon having a rough night.

How are you doing, CredorChad?

>> No.18296197

>>18295731
I really wonder if the problem is that people only want nautilus and aquanaut if it's because, like you were saying, those are the last good watches they make. There's not a doubt in my mind that if I was retardedly rich and had the option I'd rather have one of those little perpetual calendars than a nautilus.

>> No.18296198

>>18295995
>>18296070
>crazy timing
They stopped giving a fuck because they were selling to the chinese who have no clue nor care about art, they just wanted an expensive totem to make it seem like they were different from all the other bugs in the pot.

>> No.18296201

>>18295554
I wonder if that Gold and Red Tsuyosa is good for all occasion

>> No.18296210

>>18296162
BUT IT SAYS SWISS MADE

>> No.18296241

>>18296136
China. Thailand, as far as I know, only has the capability of producing ETA Ronda quartz modules, not whole watches. Maybe it's changed? But I doubt it.
What i know, for a fact, is that Rolex and Patek boxes used to be made here. Can't verify if they still are, but for many years they were.

>> No.18296243

Guys, I recently got a fake watch and the craftmanship is so ridiculously good that I see zero point in getting originals (unless it's some shit like a $150k tourbillon). What do?

>> No.18296252

>>18296243
>tourbillon
chinese make those

>> No.18296253

>>18296252
Yeah I know, but I mean something that has a visible decorated intricate movement, that is actually hard to replicate.

>> No.18296256

>>18296243
Watches are an emotional purchase. If you're okay with the fact that you're wearing a fake, even if it's 99% the same (which it usually is if you pay around 500$ or more) then it's fine. It really is, but be sure to tell the others, IF they comment on your watch, that it's fake. Or else you build a relationship that builds itself with lies.
I personally couldn't stand looking at my wrist everytime and think to myself
>"Yeah, that's fake"
If you truly want something that can't be faked, get a Spring drive and Zaratsu or whatever. Things that are so difficult to fake that it's not worth the effort. And if someone does fake, say, a spring drive or a movement's anglage then kudos to them.
If there was an ChinEichi II that was 99% the same at 1/50th of the price, then I'd get one. Porcelain dial, hand painted, rivaled only by the best of the best-anglage, spring drive, 950 platinum etc. then I would be stupid not to buy it. Even if it was fake. But obviously nobody would go that far for a fake.

>> No.18296261

>>18296256
Lmfao gay loser, you start conversations with "I have hairplugs and veneers" or something lolllllllllll

>> No.18296263

>>18296261
It's not a hair piece it's a conversation piece LMFOAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAA

>> No.18296280
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>>18295641
He was right. Their power reserve is shit and their standard logo is an abomination, yet most of their watches have either one or both.

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>>18295935
yes faggot

>> No.18296311

>>18294567
Is Zodiac still a good watch? I’m skeptical since they were bought by fossil group and the super sea wolf looks like plastic in most pictures.

>> No.18296314
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18296314

What is a "good watch"?

>> No.18296315

>>18296314
casio

>> No.18296321

>>18296315
What makes it good exactly? What are the criteria that makes a Casio objectively better than a Patek or a Swatch?

>> No.18296323

>>18296321
>availability
>features
>price
>timekeeping
Also,
>durability
>looks, more subjective but there are enough Casios on the market that there’s something for everybody

>> No.18296325

>>18296201
what's your wrist circumference?

>> No.18296326

>>18296321
take a158
34mm
slim, goes under cuffs easy
very accurate, -0.2spd
very clear display and very easy to see the time fast when you're out or in a hurry in public - this was blatant for me when i had a 3 hander instead

>> No.18296339

>>18296323
>>18296326
These are all utilitarian arguments, which I accept.
But what about
>design
>personal style
>originality
>fun
>scarcity
?
When it comes to watches, I value all of these over features or accuracy.

>> No.18296340

>>18296325
7 inch

>> No.18296343

>>18296339
other than scarcity and originality these aren't really quantifiable things, all you can do is compare a watch to another watch and subjectively decide that one is better than the other. casio definitely has originality, and with the usual brands like rolex you really aren't getting scarcity unless you go large five figures or more

>> No.18296345

>>18296339
Frogman models used to be very collectable. They were the most scarce models. I guess they still are in those circles I've not kept up.

>> No.18296361

What's the best dress watch you can get for $300USD or less? Automatic movement preferable.

>> No.18296362

Americans are so fucking retarded it's unreal.

>> No.18296363

>>18296361
Orient Bambino

>> No.18296373

NEW THREAD
>>18296372
>>18296372
>>18296372
>>18296372
>>18296372

>> No.18296446
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>>18296195
Love to see it.

>> No.18296490

Is a Tudor pelagos 39 worth it if it can be had in for around 3,000 even?

>> No.18296498

>>18296340
It should be ok on your 7" wrist. It's not for all occasions. The colors can be choosy at times, but it still depends on how you carry it. If you have no issues wearing a rose gold colored watch, then it's all good. I suggest you test one first, at least any Tsuyosa for the feel and size.

>> No.18297438

>>18296498
thanks

>> No.18297459
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18297459

I'm going to buy a Christopher ward the twelve 40mm, will report back.

60 days free returns no questions asked, nothing to lose

>> No.18299065

>>18297459
Enjoy the customs tax and delay