/WT/ - WATCH THREAD

[Anonymous No.18084635]

BVLGARI edition.

Guides and Info:
>Classic Meme
https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8
>Poorfag guide:
https://www.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
>Watch essentials 102:
https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
>Purchasing used watches:
https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
>Purchasing straps:
https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

"Suggest a watch for me."
>Your budget
>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz
>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd-time zone
>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
>Wrist size or desired watch size

Previous thread : >>18083547

[Anonymous No.18084639]

I like cathedral hands

[Anonymous No.18084640]

>>18084635
Based.

Bulgari and Piaget's thinness competition has been great to watch.

[Anonymous No.18084647]

>>18084640
It's retarded because they now have to spread out the components, so you end up with two subdials (one for the hour, one for the minutes).

[Anonymous No.18084648]

>>18084640
why can't piaget make a watch face that isn't fugly though? they've got like 3 watches in their entire history that don't make me want to stab my eyes out

[Anonymous No.18084651]

Just came back from the Tudor boutique, new grail watch on my wrist after waiting for 11 months to arrive and saving money for 3 years but somehow it didn't fundamentally make me a happy person. Wtf? Do I need to buy more watches? More expansive watches?

[Anonymous No.18084652]

Posting 1980s cheese
Two-tone, small size, integrated bracelet, white dial, usually quartz

[Anonymous No.18084653]

>>18084652

[Anonymous No.18084654]

>>18084651
Anon. Look at yourself in the mirror. Now compare yourself to the people on instagram. Will "stuff" ever really make you happy or should you be spending that money on dermatology, personal training, hairstylists, plastic surgery, and perhaps gender affirming care?

[Anonymous No.18084655]

>>18084653

[Anonymous No.18084656]

>>18084655

[Anonymous No.18084657]

>>18084656

[Anonymous No.18084659]

>>18084657

[Anonymous No.18084661]

Lets weekend this, bros

[Anonymous No.18084662]

this thread proves that two tone is officially played out now that /fa/ laggards are obsessed with it

what a shame :(

[Anonymous No.18084663]

>>18084647
this stupid

[Anonymous No.18084665]

>>18084653
What is this one? I've never seen this one before. Looks like a Zenith Santos.

[Anonymous No.18084667]

>>18084640
>>18084647
I don't think these are actually meant to be worn. They're just collector pieces intended to be hoarded.

[Anonymous No.18084670]

>>18084662
The fuck your talking about cunt?

[Anonymous No.18084671]

>>18084662

[Anonymous No.18084672]

>>18084661
He lives!

[Anonymous No.18084674]

I fucking love boring watches. Give me the time and the date and that's all i need.

Post boring watch kino ITT.

[Anonymous No.18084676]

watches with only day, no date. any examples out there?

[Anonymous No.18084685]

>>18084676
I can't imagine why anyone would make one

[Anonymous No.18084687]

>>18084651
>Tudor
sounds like you should have gone into the rolex boutique instead

[Anonymous No.18084689]

>>18084685
the fact it would be very easy to make one and there still aren't any proves this is the case. it just doesn't add enough useful information

[Anonymous No.18084692]

>>18084651
why did you buy the watch? a watch makes you happy if you adore looking at it. which watch did you get btw?

[Anonymous No.18084701]

>>18084671
bittercel lmao

[Anonymous No.18084721]

so now that poors have "discovered" small watches, what's the correct size for normal non-fuckups with taste, and why is it 53mm lug to lug?

[Anonymous No.18084722]

>>18084721
its time for the diesel watch to shine

[Anonymous No.18084725]

>>18084635
>thread splitting again
Well, this just means that the real thread will be alive for much longer.

[Anonymous No.18084727]

>>18084721
>what's the correct size for normal non-fuckups with taste
36mm for dress watches (if round)
40mm for sports watches

[Anonymous No.18084731]

>so now that poors have "discovered" small watches, what's the correct size for normal non-fuckups with taste, and why is it 53mm lug to lug?

[Anonymous No.18084733]

>>18084692
Pretty sure it was just a shit post.

[Anonymous No.18084734]

[Anonymous No.18084735]

>casually destroys minimalist design
heh nuthin perzonnel kid

[Anonymous No.18084739]

>>18084734

[Anonymous No.18084742]

>>18084674
>tissot
>silicum
lmao even...

[Anonymous No.18084745]

>>18084735
>buying a watch designed by a commie jew
No thanks.

[Anonymous No.18084747]

>>18084742
I don't know why Tossit puts that shit on the dial.

Did Swatch tell them to make the watch just slightly shittier?

[Anonymous No.18084749]

After careful meditation and thorough consideration I've finally arrived to the conclusion that quartz watches are shit.
Even if it's radio sync, haq, has a jeweled serviceable movement etc, it doesn't matter.
Quartz in it's very essence goes against western watchmaking tradition and values. If you own a quartz watch or support the general notion of owning quartz timekeepers you are part of the problem. Do not enable hate.

[Anonymous No.18084751]

>whoretadello made a thread before this one
>everyone decided to ignore him and post here instead

[Anonymous No.18084752]

>>18084751
who asked you lmfao
just post and discuss watches
fuck this meta shit

[Anonymous No.18084754]

>>18084721
you know after some bottom feeder poorfag like teddy / tgv start shilling small watches it's over for them.
the future is unironically big 90s or 00s style watches. it's up to you to accept it and embrace the status maxxing or fade away into obscurity with the rest of your gutter incel buddies.

[Anonymous No.18084756]

[Anonymous No.18084757]

>>18084754
>the future is unironically big 90s or 00s style watches.
90s watches were still pretty small.

[Anonymous No.18084758]

>>18084756

[Anonymous No.18084759]

>>18084754
This guy is right.

[Anonymous No.18084760]

>>18084758

[Anonymous No.18084761]

>>18084756
That's pretty odd-looking. Got any info on it?

[Anonymous No.18084762]

>>18084749

[Anonymous No.18084764]

>>18084760

[Anonymous No.18084766]

>>18084764

[Anonymous No.18084768]

Speaking of quartz, I really want a Seiko Dolce but it bothers me that it's quartz. Should I do it?

[Anonymous No.18084769]

>>18084754
>caring about what others think of your watch
ishygddt

[Anonymous No.18084771]

>>18084761
Cyril Brivet-Naudot

uses a non swiss escapement system, as are all the watches i just posted

[Anonymous No.18084772]

>>18084762
love how the chud basedface single handedly killed /pol/ and prevented a trump reelection. They can't even buy watches without talking about how muh west has fallen and that was their undoing.

[Anonymous No.18084774]

>>18084762
seethe more poorfag lmfao

[Anonymous No.18084775]

>>18084752
>fuck this meta shit
No, fuck whoretadello.
I'm tired of seeing him spamming his two shitters in every threads.
Fuck you too btw, faggot.

[Anonymous No.18084776]

Watches like the Ploprof are coming back in a huge way. Omega just remade them. In a few years time you will see hipster cunts wearing oversized pieces to fit in. Rolex is doing it with their ridiculous solid gold Deep Sea.

[Anonymous No.18084778]

>>18084771

[Anonymous No.18084779]

>>18084768
noooooo buy a mass produced mechanical watch, otherwise your watch wont have souuuuul

[Anonymous No.18084780]

>>18084778

[Anonymous No.18084781]

>>18084775
kys latinx fag

[Anonymous No.18084782]

Is it considered normal that my Seamaster bracelet has lost some of the finish it has on pictures of when it was new? It's a brushed bracelet but it has become kind of duller than it should be, like the texture has changed with years of rub against skin, clothes and everything else.

[Anonymous No.18084784]

>>18084782
>"is normal wear and tear normal?"

[Anonymous No.18084785]

>>18084782
I compared it to the spare links that have likely never been worn and they still have that original finish to them

[Anonymous No.18084788]

>>18084784
I was asking myself if such rub would cause steel to change its finish I guess. Given it is steel I thought maybe not.

[Anonymous No.18084789]

[Anonymous No.18084790]

Looks like fucking dogshit and you know it. Just fuck off to your containment zone faggot. Nobody fucking cares.
>uses a non swiss escapement system
Piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.18084791]

>>18084789
"hey bro what time is it?"
>uh.. Dubai.. Halifax
KEK

[Anonymous No.18084792]

>>18084790
its pretty cool

[Anonymous No.18084794]

>>18084789
>no poo cities
BASED

[Anonymous No.18084795]

>>18084789
what city is zoozol?

[Anonymous No.18084796]

>>18084789
How do you use a World Timer? Does the city ring rotate too?

[Anonymous No.18084797]

>>18084795
LONDON
O
N
D
O
N

[Anonymous No.18084803]

>>18084751
>It's just him schizoposting and calling everyone else in the thread bittercel
>Not a single watch posted

I think his mind has finally succumbed to syphilis.

[Anonymous No.18084808]

>>18084782
>Is it considered normal that my Seamaster bracelet has lost some of the finish it has on pictures of when it was new? It's a brushed bracelet but it has become kind of duller than it should be, like the texture has changed with years of rub against skin, clothes and everything else.
Yes, that kind of wear is normal Steel may be hard, but it is not indistructible and over the course of time, pretty much anything can create microscopic scratches. All those scratches add up to dulling the finish.

[Anonymous No.18084810]

>>18084796
the numbered ring rotates

[Anonymous No.18084814]

>bittercel again got called out and has a meltdown over the "accusations" of him being bitter
oh am laffin'

[Anonymous No.18084817]

>>18084810
Oh, so you set the 24 hour ring to a known city like your own timezone and then you can see the time in all the other time zones?

[Anonymous No.18084818]

what are the best cope watches?

[Anonymous No.18084819]

>>18084803
>>18084814
again, fuck off with the meta shit.
last thread was the drama thread.
let's actually talk about watches in the watch thread this time.

>>18084817
Yes, that's basically it.

[Anonymous No.18084822]

>let's actually talk about watches in the watch thread this time.

[Anonymous No.18084823]

>>18084733
damn, it seems obvious now that you said it

[Anonymous No.18084830]

>>18084818

[Anonymous No.18084836]

Wine me up

[Anonymous No.18084843]

>>18084836
Baseddddd

[Anonymous No.18084851]

Thoughts on the alpinist gmt? I have mental illness and have both a seiko 5kx gmt and nu alpinist but I want to buy another seiko. I have no divers so maybe one of those but the blue gmt looks good, worried it will be way too thick though

[Anonymous No.18084852]

>>18084851
Not a true GMT and the bracelet is kind of shitty. They did get rid of the cyclops, though, so that's nice.

[Anonymous No.18084853]

It’s noon boys. Let’s get dirty.

[Anonymous No.18084858]

>>18084853
>>18084836
Are you bittercel?

[Anonymous No.18084877]

>>18084858
only when hes sober

[Anonymous No.18084881]

>>18084852
It comes with a strap and not a bracelet unless you get the white one I think

[Anonymous No.18084884]

Speedmaster guy, if you're here. How often do you wear that piece, and what else do you have in your collection? Feel like I'd probably want to make it my main edc

[Anonymous No.18084889]

>>18084884
If you're thinking of OmegaDrunk, I'm not him, but I do own a Speedmaster.

I probably wear it half the time, swapping it out for my other casual watch. It could very easily be my only daily watch. It's quite comfortable and accurate. The only minor issue is that the crown guards make winding it a little bit of a pain, but not so much that the watch is unuseable.

[Anonymous No.18084895]

>>18084889
Cool watches anon.
I have a somewhat similar collection.

[Anonymous No.18084907]

>>18084889
>>18084895
nice collections bros

[Anonymous No.18084916]

>>18084889
>>18084895
Shiiiieeeeet these are nice collections you guys should post more often

[Anonymous No.18084920]

is there any autistic watch collector website like myfigurecollection with a database of watches and tags for different complications, design elements etc

[Anonymous No.18084924]

>>18084920
No, instead you have to rely on whatever is on watchbase and calibercorner and get books from vintage collectors and curators for several hundred per book.

[Anonymous No.18084925]

>>18084889
Okay good to know, official site has the sapphire as unavailable now so thinking about pulling the trigger on this new $6700 chrono listing instead. Sucks omega pulled out of their AD dealers in my state leaving only their official boutique

[Anonymous No.18084930]

>>18084889
>>18084895
Beautiful collection, three pieces is the perfect balance.

[Anonymous No.18084937]

>>18084925
get this one instead

[Anonymous No.18084946]

>>18084889
>>18084895
It's nice to see a watch different from the Overseas and the Grand Seiko snowflake, in recent days only those two have been seen.

[Anonymous No.18084949]

>>18084889
NPC Taste, to be quite honest

[Anonymous No.18084962]

>>18084949
Personally i think it is a fantastic collection, these are iconic watches, it is a small collection, in a larger collection you can add fun and extravagant watches.

[Anonymous No.18084965]

>>18084851
I like the different number dial as opposed to the usual Alpinist fare. It's a bit thick if you ask me though.

[Anonymous No.18084966]

>>18084949
post yours

[Anonymous No.18084968]

>>18084949
Have to agree with this. Good for dabbing on mid level normies, but not for much else.

[Anonymous No.18084969]

Is there anything like a Daydate that doesn't have the day written in that manner at 12? I really dislike the look.

[Anonymous No.18084973]

>>18084966
Here's my collection.

[Anonymous No.18084976]

>>18084973
sell all four and buy something better

[Anonymous No.18084982]

>>18084973
get rid of the n*to strap it looks and feels like shit.

[Anonymous No.18084984]

>>18084973
All these watches look like the same watch but different size and color. The Seiko 5 with the nato looks great, keep this one and sell the others.

[Anonymous No.18084985]

Anyone want to comment on >>18084329

[Anonymous No.18084987]

>>18084920
theseikoguy

[Anonymous No.18084990]

>>18084985
I really don't think it's worth it under like 10000

[Anonymous No.18084996]

>>18084973
kek

[Anonymous No.18084997]

>>18084990
okay thats kinda of what i figured, some pieces im considering are msrp close to the 10k mark but still 1-2k lower at least.

[Anonymous No.18085001]

>>18084973
anon definitely has a type.

[Anonymous No.18085004]

Has a watch ever made you cry?

[Anonymous No.18085012]

>>18085004
men do not cry

[Anonymous No.18085014]

Is jomashop more reputable than verified dealers on chrono or is it a pretty similar experience?

[Anonymous No.18085015]

>>18084949
>>18084968
It's a very safe but perfect collection. These watches are icons for good reasons.

[Anonymous No.18085025]

Instead of adding a hand for fucking GMT (no one cares about that shit), why not add a hand for an alarm, like those cricket watches they used to make?

[Anonymous No.18085034]

>>18085025
Probably cost. Alarm is not a complication that the market really demands, so sales wouldn't be great. A GMT complication is also much cheaper to engineer and manufacture than an alarm complication.

[Anonymous No.18085044]

>>18084925
Which watch exactly? Share the link.

[Anonymous No.18085059]

>>18084734
what phenotype is this

[Anonymous No.18085060]

So when did you take the smallwatchpill?

[Anonymous No.18085061]

>>18085060

[Anonymous No.18085062]

>>18085061

[Anonymous No.18085063]

>>18085044
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-speedmaster-moonwatch-professional-co-axial-master-chronometer-chronograph-42-mm-31030425001002
I think i'd get it from jomashop or chrono24 instead. Chrono especially is calculating way less in taxes. I'm still a bit torn on the hesalite vs sapphire version though. Im considering getting the hesalite from joma at $5800 (they have the sapphire for $6650). I didnt notice a huge difference in person between them but i didnt look at them much at very off angles and some pics/videos ive seen of that the sapphire warps the view a lot. Nice to see the movement but not sure its a thousand dollars nice

[Anonymous No.18085068]

>>18085062
Man I wish Cartier remade Delon's Tank.

[Anonymous No.18085082]

Found a bracelet for my seiko, thin and jangly but at least it fits the lugs

[Anonymous No.18085085]

what did you service recently?

Currently working on this helvetia 838

[Anonymous No.18085086]

>>18085063
Okay, slow the fuck down. First, the sapphire version is an idiot filter. You buy it when you don't know much about watches because "look at the movement" and "it won't get scratched when I hit my wife with it".

Second, buy the previous model that comes in the big NASA box. That one is collectible. Never before or since did you get such a collectors edition box in a normal production model under 5k. The new model is a sad joke by comparison.

Finally, buy it used on C24 and aim for a good condition unpolished piece around $5k.

[Anonymous No.18085090]

>>18084889
Based collection brother. Have a speedy, tt dj, and wanting to get an explorer 36. "on the list," or so they tell me

[Anonymous No.18085098]

>>18085086
The old movement was not hackable. For me not being accurate down to the second at least for a few hours ruins a watch for me

[Anonymous No.18085099]

>>18085086
Sapphire version comes with the box too as seen here https://www.chrono24.com/omega/omega-new-2024-speedmaster-moonwatch-co-axial-master-chronometer--sapphire-sandwhich--id22271363.htm
>Finally, buy it used on C24 and aim for a good condition unpolished piece around $5k.
This being my first nice watch and something id probably not get rid of id prefer new. There are new hesalites for under $6k like https://www.chrono24.com/omega/omega-speedmaster-moonwatch-hesalite-new-2024-cal-3861-31030425001001--id19386295.htm

Unless youre saying the 310.30.42.50.01.001 in general is to be avoided but i dont see why.

[Anonymous No.18085101]

>>18085025
Most sane people just set alarms on their phone because you can type text telling you what the alarm is for and you can set more than one. Most people don't need to track more than 2 or 3 timezones and a watch can do that. Only cheap quartz shitters have multiple alarms

[Anonymous No.18085105]

It's so perfect bros

[Anonymous No.18085109]

>>18085098
>The old movement was not hackable.
And that's exactly why it's more interesting. Was the 321 hackable when it landed on the moon? No. You don't need this watch to hack. The modern Moonwatch is an homage to the vintage piece of shit that was the Moonwatch. It's a leaky, inaccurate manual wound non hacking bastard. You have to understand this watch or you will regret it.

>>18085099
Again, slow the fuck down. You haven't researched at all. That "box" looks like the old one to fool people like you into thinking it's the same deal. Here is the difference between them. Now tell me which watch says "vintage homage" better between the two.

>first watch should be new
Totally the opposite. You need a fine used piece to get into the hobby.

[Anonymous No.18085110]

>>18085085
Finished a basic bitch 2892 today. I have another one with a pants-shittiingly awful DD chrono module on top coming in. Then depending on test result, a 40s Rolex movement of questionable authenticity and maybe an ETA autoquartz that I'm praying will be okay now that I've changed the capacitor.

[Anonymous No.18085112]

>>18085105
>water resistant
that's just sad..

[Anonymous No.18085125]

>>18085109
did the speedmaster on neil armstrongs wrist have some pointless coaxial movement?

[Anonymous No.18085127]

>>18085125
No... and neither does the one I recommended. It's the 80s movement just rhodium plated. No fancy cuck axial bullshit, just pure classic manual wind movement without the column wheel.

[Anonymous No.18085133]

How did Genta have such a prolific career selling half a dozen different manufacturers effectively the same watch?

[Anonymous No.18085136]

I want an aquanaut but I'm not made of money. What are some similar more affordable watches?

[Anonymous No.18085139]

>>18085136
Royal Oak, Overseas, Nautilus.

[Anonymous No.18085143]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.18085147]

>>18085136
it looks a bit like a pilot watch, surely you can find something affordable with similar looks.

[Anonymous No.18085151]

KEK

[Anonymous No.18085152]

>>18085109
I'm not buying it for the box desu. It seems hard to find a very good condition used one with that. Is the hesalite version I linked not worth the money? Both were nice when I saw them in shop

[Anonymous No.18085156]

>>18085151
sky dweller chads what's going on here?

[Anonymous No.18085157]

>>18085152
>It seems hard to find a very good condition used one with that.
Well yes it's more desirable and discontinued. But it's still cheaper than the new model. Why do you want to pay more for the new updated cuck axial Speedmaster? I don't get it.

The outgoing model arguably has a nicer case shape with longer lugs that suit it better. The new one has some weird design cues to it.

>worth the money
When you buy the new one at $6000, it's worth $5000 the moment you take it out of the box. Not true for the older model. It is worth what you paid for it.

[Anonymous No.18085158]

>>18085151
Notice how the Rolex guy absolutely dominates the quartz shitter guy.

[Anonymous No.18085162]

>>18085151
>The Sky-Dweller is the worst Rolex! It's way too big and way too th--ACK!

[Anonymous No.18085166]

>>18085143
Tudor gmt mogs it. Better design, probably built better, known brand. Same gilt vintage feel. Does cost twice as much though so there is that

[Anonymous No.18085171]

>>18085139
>Nautilus
Don't worry, you don't need that expensive Patek they won't sell you, you can just get that other expensive Patek they won't sell you.

[Anonymous No.18085188]

>>18085082
did you fingered your wife?

[Anonymous No.18085191]

Fuck I'm dnuk bros.

[Anonymous No.18085204]

saw a bus driver wearing a rolex, what's your excuse for not having one?

[Anonymous No.18085210]

>>18085112
It's very not intrusive tho

[Anonymous No.18085222]

>>18085109
>Totally the opposite. You need a fine used piece to get into the hobby
I have inherited vintage pieces, breitling and movado from 20-30 years ago. This is part of the reason i now want to buy a new nice watch, as i have bought a few $500 or less automatics previously. I had found pic related interesting but this is a totally different category and i cant just find it to see in person whereas i know i really liked the omega on my wrist.

>>18085157
>>18085127
What specific model number are you talking about? Hard to find vintage ones with a box but i do see this one. I really liked the feel of the new one on my wrist, felt and looked very nice. The previous models also dont have any quick micro adjusting on the clasps which i have come to really enjoy.
https://www.chrono24.com/omega/speedmaster-professional-moonwatch--id33075195.htm

[Anonymous No.18085225]

6 Months on the waitlist for a Submariner and a Fluted Jubilee Mint Green Datejust 36 mm.

No purchase history. Still waiting. Is there any hope or should I just go grey?

[Anonymous No.18085230]

>>18085125
>vintage piece of shit that was the Moonwatch. It's a leaky, inaccurate manual wound non hacking bastard. You have to understand this watch or you will regret it.
This feels like some kind of bitterness. I have yet to see anyone online that owned any model of this watch and did not like it. It was accurate enough for them to use it to time their 14 second burn when the onboard mission timer failed so they could actually make it back to earth.

[Anonymous No.18085232]

>>18085225
Have you bugged the ad about it since? I got on the list a month ago and already followed up with them about it but I'm just looking for an explorer which should be easier to get

[Anonymous No.18085238]

>>18085232
I have texted her every month. She has offered watches that I don't really care for. Two tone datejusts 41 mm. She seems responsive but not getting what I want.

[Anonymous No.18085243]

>>18084877
This

[Anonymous No.18085259]

>>18085157
>When you buy the new one at $6000, it's worth $5000 the moment you take it out of the box. Not true for the older model. It is worth what you paid for it.
If you were to buy something like the one >>18085222 linked unless it recently underwent servicing you would be needing to get it serviced as it's going on twenty years old and who knows when it was last serviced (if ever). That's going to run you $900 (from omega at least). Youre right its a more collectable box and such but if you can get a new hesalite with better bracelet for that same price that will have a warranty and wont need servicing for a decade seems hard to say youre losing that much money or value in general.

[Anonymous No.18085275]

good evening saars

[Anonymous No.18085283]

>>18085275
Sir please, do the needful.

[Anonymous No.18085297]

>>18085283
>>18085275
Which specific model is this (or at least year). I'd like some opinions from someone civil like yourself on the stuff >>18085109 has been saying trying to dissuade me from getting a new model

[Anonymous No.18085303]

>>18085275
>>18085283
Is this the sapphire or does the omega logo on the hesalite just not come through in pics?

[Anonymous No.18085305]

>>18085303
sorta visible in 2nd image

[Anonymous No.18085308]

>>18085305
Ah okay i wasnt sure if that was just photo blur or not. Based on bracelet looks like its not the newest version? How long have you had it

[Anonymous No.18085316]

>>18085297
I bought this at the Scottsdale Omega Boutique last month, it's the Hesalite Moonwatch 3861. My opinion is: for your first luxury watch to buy new, so that every scratch is yours, and you know the exact status of the service life and story. Do not buy with investment in mind, buy with the full intent to wear it to your own funeral, for the first one. Yes you "lose" 1k walking out the door, but this shouldn't be about return on investment.

I prefer the Hesalite as a domed crystal gives a warmth and vintage feel to the dial that works very well with a 1960s design. Sapphire sandwich is also 1k more.

The other user is recommending you to buy a used previous model (1861) which is a fine watch, but objextively "worse" in features. Aesthetics are up to you, but unless you're buying a copper plated "pre-moon" movement you're not buying an actual moonwatch regardless. In my opinion the 3861 is the best speedmaster yet produced: most accurate, longest service life, most magnetic resistance, and most features.

Tldr, I recommend you save and buy from a Boutique if you can, and AD if you can't because warranty matters on these, the debate over "what is a true moonwatch" isn't winnable unless it's a pre 1968. Don't rush your first nice watch, unlike other brands, Omega will always have a moonwatch in stock.

[Anonymous No.18085318]

>>18085297
>>18085303
Also fysa we are two different owners, >>18085316
Is the guy with the 80s pinup

[Anonymous No.18085321]

>>18085316
>My opinion is: for your first luxury watch to buy new, so that every scratch is yours, and you know the exact status of the service life and story. Do not buy with investment in mind, buy with the full intent to wear it to your own funeral, for the first one.
This was my thought process as well. Once youve lost your luxury virginity so to speak that matters less, but the first one seems like it should be special and wholly yours.
>I recommend you save and buy from a Boutique if you can, and AD if you can't because warranty matters on these
No ADs besides the boutique. I contacted professional dealer on chrono24 for new ones and they said they are full 5 year warranties just like from an AD, they have real photos of the watch and warranty cards so seems like thats still 'new'. I dont want to buy from the physical store here for tax reasons, if you really think it's that worth getting directly from omega i would order from their site. Honestly new from an online seller seems more new than from a store where who knows how many people have handled it, but maybe im wrong there.

[Anonymous No.18085325]

>>18085321
Unless that warranty is the Factory Omega Warranty that is valid in your region, it is not "just like from an AD". Secondary "seller warranties" aren't worth the paper they are printed on when the only people that can service this movement to spec are Omega themselves.

If you can't buy in person for tax reasons, wait until you're traveling somewhere with lower taxes to buy in person. If you absolutely must, order from Omega itself online, but do not trust an online dealer who will not promise a full, valid, Omega warranty.

[Anonymous No.18085326]

they dont know

[Anonymous No.18085329]

>>18085325
>Unless that warranty is the Factory Omega Warranty that is valid in your region
for the ones i contacted they said it is the factory omega 5 year warranty. All the chrono sellers i've contacted are US based so same region as me. It's not that i can't buy from the boutique in my area for tax reasons, it just seemed like a complete waste to pay 2-3x more in taxes on a high priced item as it saves me close to $500.

[Anonymous No.18085337]

>>18085329
My opinion: the experience of going to the boutique, having champagne, browsing and looking and talking, and then buying your exact watch is worth the 500 bucks. I paid $7583 out the door, after taxes.

But they really do try to make is a special occasion, and usually they will give you a gift (a bottle of Champagne, a NATO strap if you express interest, chocolates, etc) as well.

Is it work 500 bucks, objectively no. But getting your first luxury watch which is hopefully a personal reward for hard work and success is worth a little more ceremony than an Amazon package. All my opinion and objectively without logic, but luxury watches are not logical.

[Anonymous No.18085342]

>>18085337
To tldr my own post: it is a very cool experience to finally buy your first really nice watch and you should maximize that experience. Think back to the time and effort and work it took to get to the place where you could spend 7k on a watch, and spend some time celebrating that. I don't feel like getting a brown box on your doorstep does that, it's just another transaction.

[Anonymous No.18085343]

>>18085337
Champagne, didn't get that impression from the omega store I was at. The tax at my omega store location is like 10% too compared to maybe 4-5% where my house is. Maybe I didn't express enough interest in it to start to get them to express that sort of treatment of an actual buyer. It's in a mall and after seeing it and looking at few other pieces from other shops like gs I came back and expressed more interest and it really seemed like if I had bought it all they were going to do was ring it up, run my card and send me on my way.

[Anonymous No.18085347]

>>18085337
just a bitter piece of shit here but this is pretty embarrassing. You willingly overpaid for a watch just so you can have your figurative dick sucked by someone who gives zero fucks about you other than how much they jewed you for. Just buy your watch online anon. save your money and do something else you want. avoid wasteful faggotry like this.

[Anonymous No.18085348]

>>18085342
>Think back to the time and effort and work it took to get to the place where you could spend 7k on a watch,
To be fair, my monetary situation is very unusual. I could have bought a watch like this in college if I felt like it. Both times I've bought a house I did so in cash. It more just feels like an appropriate time to buy my first new luxury watch now that I'm 30

[Anonymous No.18085352]

I love cushion cases so much bros..

[Anonymous No.18085354]

>>18085343
Huh. It was an actual Omega Boutique correct? That's very different from my experience having gone there a few times. You might have to be a little more bold "I'd really like to sit down with these watches and spend some time before a purchase" is a good way to show you're serious. If they're in a mall they get a lot of "browsers" and they're not going to roll the tray out unless they are sure you're a serious buyer. They have a full drinks menu.

The best way to ensure you get great service is actually make an appointment the day beforehand.

[Anonymous No.18085359]

>>18085347
Different strokes. The 500 bucks didn't hurt me either way, but I enjoyed the "experience". You're objectively correct, but again this isn't an objective purchase by any measure.

[Anonymous No.18085360]

fuck you I like it

[Anonymous No.18085362]

>>18085348
So you're coming at it from a different angle than me and that's fine. If the "symbol" of attainment in buying your first luxury piece isn't important to you, the right answer is get the cheapest deal you can with a factory warranty.

[Anonymous No.18085365]

Your kino sir.

[Anonymous No.18085367]

>>18085347
I can see both sides. It's like losing your virginity. In the end does it really matter if you lost it to a girl you really cared about or just some drunk slut, not really. But when you look at it on your wrist all the time one of those experiences will have much more fond memories. I guess it's a question of if those memories are actually worth another $500-1500.

>>18085354
Yes it was an official omega store, the only one in my state from what I've seen. When I came back the second time I had started asking about any wiggle room on price or taxes as it's literally the highest tax rate area in my state (I wasn't aware boutiques don't do any haggling like that), I just said that's unfortunate because I really like this watch and they pretty much just shrugged so I left. Perhaps I didn't express enough interest. The watches I saw weren't even running until I asked if we could get one running so I could see the movement and such. They felt very indifferent so I figured fuck you I can buy directly from omega cheaper I just don't get to wear it today. It has been on my mind since though to the point where I have considered just going back in and getting it.

[Anonymous No.18085371]

>>18085362
I still like the symbol of attainment, and again having just turned 30 few months back it seems like a very appropriate time for that symbol to come and have that experience, it just didn't seem like I was getting any experience worth the money at the time. I hadn't though of the getting an appointment thing that was mentioned. I had initially gone to a ben bridge store that said they were an omega AD as it's closer but guess their site wasn't up to date anymore.

[Anonymous No.18085376]

>>18085365
Weird dial color.

[Anonymous No.18085380]

>>18085365
I think mark might be colorblind because he cannot pick good colors for his watches to save his life

[Anonymous No.18085384]

>>18085380
Might look good on a negro

[Anonymous No.18085385]

>>18085376
>>18085380
No it is beautiful it is perfect. Stop overseething at everything.

[Anonymous No.18085387]

>>18084652
I thought I had one of these working on ebay for like sixty bucks but the last couple of hours the bids shot up to like over $500

[Anonymous No.18085392]

Am I the only one here that just doesn't like square watches? Something about them seems off-putting

[Anonymous No.18085400]

>>18085392
No, they are definitely an acquired taste.

[Anonymous No.18085406]

>>18085297
me -> >>18085275
1861 movement, 311.30.42.30.01.005 hesalite. from my quick research the sapphires have an open caseback and a stepped crystal among other things. full disclosure i'm a watch noob and this is was a gift from my consoomer father so i don't have autism when it comes to movements like him and you guys.

if its your first luxury watch and you can responsibly dump your disposable income on it just buy one new, fuck it. my "first" luxury watch was dropped on my lap but for a watch i'd like to get myself, i would probably get it new and as a celebration of a personal life milestone/achievement.

im gonna start talking about cars now because thats where my autism truly lies and it kinda contradicts what i just said: if i had the opportunity to buy any porsche i wanted i would lean towards a 997 GT2/3 or an aircooled one instead of a brand new one. these cars are older, slower, and have been likely passed around by insanely rich old fucks who have each farted in the seats. i don't give a shit though, because air cooled porsches aren't being made anymore and the 997 GTs have mezger engines in them. on top of this they can be cheaper than a brand spankin new gt3 so its pretty much a win-win for me.

so maybe you could research all the past speedy models inside and out to find certain quirks that you highly desire but can't find in the current ones and decide based on that

[Anonymous No.18085420]

>>18085406
>im gonna start talking about cars now because thats where my autism truly lies
We have very similar tastes, although my grail car is a 911 gt3 (not sure on rs or non rs) in purple. I do love a lot of their older models though. I'm pretty much decided i want a new speedmaster. Like the other anon said unless you go truely vintage its not the exact watch that went to the moon and while that is part of the appeal to me theres more to it than that. I dont even remember what made me want an omega as my first real watch purchase back when i was younger. Maybe it was seeing bond in a seamaster or just the look of them or that they werent just a standard rolex. Having worn the new speedmaster in person i can't get it off my mind. The new bracelet is very nice
even if its not the best ive seen. I worried about getting another black dial watch especially one without a date but something about it just really won me over when i had it in hand. They very easily could have sold me the watch when i was there yesterday, they just made no attempt to. I had honestly planned on buying something in that range.

[Anonymous No.18085422]

>>18085068

[Anonymous No.18085437]

>>18085365
what was he thinking with the minute track?

[Anonymous No.18085460]

>islander haters can't handle the beach vibes

[Anonymous No.18085461]

tudor is the costume jewelry for rolex owners while their rolex sits in the vault the tudor does the real heavy lifting

[Anonymous No.18085469]

>>18085461
Tudor and rolex just don't have any special look to me. For rolex at least you have the value retention on an otherwise bland watch. Having tried them both in person they didn't seem close anything special at all.

[Anonymous No.18085521]

>>18084635
I am actively ignoring threads that feature that bald bitch's wrist
simple as

[Anonymous No.18085552]

>>18085318
its patrick nagel you pleb

[Anonymous No.18085555]

>>18085329
c24 charges tax, so whats the deal

[Anonymous No.18085561]

>>18085555
they do but it seems like they where just charging the minimum state tax regardless of the entered address. Unless they somehow charge you more after you order.

[Anonymous No.18085564]

I want to see this beauty in person.

[Anonymous No.18085576]

>>18085564
When will this obsession with the Royal Oak end?

[Anonymous No.18085578]

>>18085576
>When will this obsession with the Royal Oak end?
i dont even know royal oak, i'm just a slut for purple

[Anonymous No.18085579]

>>18085552
I know that, it's one if two period Nagel prints I own, but I didn't expect anyone else to have a fucking clue who that was.

[Anonymous No.18085589]

>>18085564
>$3000 for temushit
lmao

[Anonymous No.18085590]

>>18085589
Nice mens purple is hard to find.

[Anonymous No.18085592]

All of these Speedmasters that the anons have posted look really nice, i appreciate the design of the watch. But do you use the chronograph function? i will be honest with you, i can't think of a single occasion where i need a chronograph, except when i train at the gym and in that case i use a digital watch and not a watch that costs more than 8k. The same with the Rolex GMT Coke, i appreciate the design of the watch, but, honestly, i can't buy a watch with a function i'll barely use. I guess my autism runs deep. I'm relegated to wearing field watches and dress watches, of course, i don't need a diver.

[Anonymous No.18085593]

>>18085191
What's that decoration from?

[Anonymous No.18085596]

>>18085592
I'm the anon that's been about to buy one an partially i want a chronography because i do not have one. I have a vintage moonphase, i have various dive watches and a dress. I usually wear a dive watch do i use the bezel to time when i started working out as i have a home gym so chronograph can replace that. I do similar with cooking sometimes. I bet it'd start fucking around with timing random stuff, like telling people exactly how late they are.

[Anonymous No.18085604]

>>18085151
Pt.2

[Anonymous No.18085610]

>>18085596
Well, I wouldn't wear the Omega in the gym, these watches were born as tools but today these watches are very expensive toys.

[Anonymous No.18085619]

>>18084982
What 5 model is this?

[Anonymous No.18085621]

>>18085610
If I buy it will probably be my primary watch. The tool aspect is one of the reasons I like watches. This is a watch that is beautiful, historic, and yet is still a tool.

[Anonymous No.18085657]

>>18085564
On the one hand, they look really cool.
On the other hand, they permanently discontinued the porcelain dial watches to make this instead and that's unfortunate.

[Anonymous No.18085671]

>>18085337
I kind of agree with you but I'm scared of interacting with people, especially since I'm not rich.
I'm afraid the dealer is going to act haughty and all...

[Anonymous No.18085684]

>>18085671
>I'm afraid the dealer is going to act haughty and all...
If you had mentionned other brands then it could have been a concern but Omega's policy is specifically not to do this kind of gatekeeping and be welcoming for all types of buyers. It's part of Swatch's general policy of making the brand a more "accessible" brand, not so much in terms of pricing but in terms of process. ESPECIALLY since the Moonswatch has helped put them on a lot of less wealthy people's map.

[Anonymous No.18085686]

>>18085684
I'm another Anon, not the guy who wants to buy the speedmaster.

[Anonymous No.18085689]

>>18085360
I kind of like too. The sapphire bezel is a nice touch.
I really hate the 4:30 date window though. Also I know it's a reedition of 1970s watch but it has that "micro-brand" vibe that's off-putting for me (at least for 7k eurobucks).

[Anonymous No.18085702]

>>18084889
nice collection, we have very similar tastes

1. that looks to be a cordovan strap on your speedmaster. mine is on brown cordovan as a more casual watch. decided against the rally version as the perforations did not seem as verstaile. how do you like yours?

2. thought I would love the explorer, but after trying it for a while, it seems a lot like a "submariner light." how do you decide between speedmaster and explorer on any given day?

3. tank is great, but I decided it should go to my wife and instead contemplating a calatrava. do you only wear it for dress occasions?

[Anonymous No.18085722]

>when your favorite release from W&W is a model nobody is talking about and even hands-on reviewers are glossing over

I'm gonna be able to get it for so cheap on chrono24 in like a year, aren't I?

[Anonymous No.18085725]

>>18085722
what is it?

[Anonymous No.18085728]

>>18085725
Pic.
Teddy just did a sit-down interview with the Vacheron guy, and when this watch was presented he never even touched it lmao.

[Anonymous No.18085730]

>>18085728
Very few modern Vacheron hold their value. The American 1921's retail price is 36k and they sell around 25k second hand.

[Anonymous No.18085731]

>>18085728
>>18085730
Too big, expensive watches look chep

[Anonymous No.18085732]

>>18085728
At first I felt like the movement was too small for the case, but really it makes perfect sense when you know the dial itself is dramatically domed, meaning the outer circumference of the watch is very thin. So there's only enough place for the movement in the middle of the watch.

>>18085730
Exactly, and the 1921 is a model that is very much talked about.
So this Patrimony will likely depreciate even more.

[Anonymous No.18085734]

>>18085722
You talk about this one, right?

[Anonymous No.18085735]

>>18085730
So much for muh holy trinity timepiece

[Anonymous No.18085737]

>>18085730
>>18085732

Looking at chrono24, it seems like most patrimony models tend to go for about half the retail price.

[Anonymous No.18085740]

>>18085732
>>18085737
I'll be honest with you, they are too expensive, they are not PP or AP, they are not independent watchmakers, they belong to a Holding. I love the 222, but would i pay 80k? of course not.

[Anonymous No.18085745]

>>18085740
PP was bought and sold a long-ass time ago, and while AP may still be in the original family's hands, they only have one popular model line and the rest is hot unsellable trash.

[Anonymous No.18085746]

>>18085745
>PP was bought and sold a long-ass time ago
Patek is independent.

[Anonymous No.18085748]

>>18085746
It was sold to a former business partner. The names on the dial have basically no meaning anymore.

[Anonymous No.18085751]

>>18085748
Yeah since 1932, and every models the brand is famous for (Calatrava, Ellipse, Nautilus, Aquanaut, their complications) were made under the Stern ownership.

[Anonymous No.18085752]

>>18085745
>>18085748
I'll tell you, you're right. But at the end of the day, PP belongs to a family, although it is not the original family, the son is stupid, but with the father's direction great watches were made. AP is independent, even though everything is RO. All this is not perfect, but he is much better than Richemont. Also, I'll tell you, VC no longer belongs to the trinity, cool watches, but the trinity belongs to the past

[Anonymous No.18085753]

>>18085752
> but he is much better than Richemont
But they are much better than Richemont

[Anonymous No.18085755]

>>18085751
So?
They could've changed the name to Stern, but they didn't. They bought the name of the company and added it to their other holdings like their dial company.

[Anonymous No.18085762]

>>18085755
What kind of special needs retard are you? They bought the Patek Philippe name and operations, they can do whatever the fuck they want with it.

[Anonymous No.18085766]

>>18085752
>AP and PP are much better than Richemont

The Richemont group kicked PP's ass with Lange's in-house chronograph caliber that was finished miles better than PP's outsourced chronograph movements at the time.
Pic very related.
Patek as we know it today with its in-house calibers and high-end finishing was largely shaped by this humiliation

[Anonymous No.18085767]

>>18085762
>They bought the and operations, they can do whatever the fuck they want with it.
Yes, which is exactly what holdings like Richemont did with brands like Vacheron Constantin.

[Anonymous No.18085782]

>>18085702
>nice collection, we have very similar tastes

Thanks. Like the other anon said, it is NPC taste and I'm fine with that. I bought all those watches a long time ago when I knew a lot less about all the other brands in the world. Still, while I'm interested in watches, there's nothing out there interesting enough for me to actually buy.

To your questions:
1. That's a Fluco Rally strap in shell cordovan. It does make the Speedmaster very casual but I like the look of it better than on the bracelet.
2. There's no real rhyme or reason, I wear the one I feel like. (I usually feel like wearing the one that's currently running.) Both are casual, but the Explorer can be worn more easily as clothes get closer to formal.
3. I wear the Tank more than I thought I would. Certainly, when I first bought it, I only wore it for formal occasions, but I got over that and realized it can be worn casually too, though not tee-shirt-and-jeans casual.

[Anonymous No.18085799]

>>18085460
This watch is amazing. During the eclipse they had a sale on the fireball version and I almost got one, it's hard to find good red and orange watches.

[Anonymous No.18085800]

>>18085766
KEK, i like VC and AL&S, at no point have i said they make bad watches, but you are just pissed off because i said i think VC is currently overrated. Enyway, disdaining PP and AP is not a valid argument to praise VC.

Ok, my friend, buy Richemont stock.

By the way, in a very good book, "Capital Returns", Richemont is described as a magnificent company and a great investment. When you're rich remember me, you know, i always wanted to have a Daniel Roth from the 90s, preferably the ultra-thin watch.

[Anonymous No.18085801]

>>18085460
This would look a lot nicer without the black markings on the bezel.

[Anonymous No.18085803]

>>18085762
Well, let's be real, Patek Philippe stopped being """real""" Patek Philippe when Antoni Patek and Adrien Philippe stopped personally working on watches, sometime in the mid-1850s. (Sarcasm)
Patek's son didn't want to join the watch business and Philippe's children managed the business but didn't actually know how to work on a watch.

[Anonymous No.18085804]

>>18085799
>>18085801
>Miyota Movement

[Anonymous No.18085805]

Hans Wilsdorf is dead, today's Rolex watches are not real Rolex... wait a minute he didn't put his name on the dial... are they real Rolex?

[Anonymous No.18085806]

>>18085800
>Daniel Roth
Mort has one i believe.

[Anonymous No.18085809]

>>18085803
>Patek's son didn't want to join the watch business
Many uch cases. Sad!
>A.L. Breguet insisted so much on his sons becoming watchmakes just like him, he made them hate everything about it and when he died they tried to abandon watches entirely and turn the Breguet workshop into a maker of scientific instruments
>J.J. Blancpain's son would rather keep working as a schoolteacher than take up his father's business as he hated the image of the BP workers of pretentious nouveaux-riches and showoffs who gentrified the area despite being peasants at heart, and it was his own son that ended up reluctantly running the business on the condition he would only manage sales and not be in the workshop
>Edouard Bovet introduced his watches and clocks to China and made a fortune that way but his sons would rather focus on silks and tea import than deal in watches

[Anonymous No.18085812]

>>18085806
This is actually where "a real X" comes to play.

His Roth is actually a Bulgari, made entirely by them long after Roth retired, and they just licensed his designs. It was not made by the company that Roth founded and operated.

[Anonymous No.18085814]

>>18085809
even in the 19th century, watch nerds were considered obnoxious?

[Anonymous No.18085819]

>>18085804
Yes, and?

[Anonymous No.18085825]

>>18085812
>and they just licensed his designs.
Octo Finissimo is a Gerald Genta

[Anonymous No.18085836]

>>18085825
>Octo Finissimo is a Gerald Genta
I think Genta might have actually designed the Octo, though.

Genta was a contract worker for most of his career.
>Yo, Jerry, draw up a design for a thin sports watch for us
>Here you go, that will be 50,000 Euro, plus tip

With Roth, they literally just bought the rights to his name and his designs after he retired. He never worked for them or designed anything for them.

[Anonymous No.18085846]

>>18085825
At this point any new octagonal watch is a Genta.

[Anonymous No.18085847]

>>18085812
>His Roth is actually a Bulgari,
oh yeah, i forgot, i had this nagging feeling i missed something

[Anonymous No.18085852]

>>18085825
>>18085836
>>18085846

[Anonymous No.18085866]

>>18085684
Is it normal for a boutique to sell you a speedmaster in a plastic package like this?

[Anonymous No.18085870]

>>18085866
>Is it normal for a boutique to sell you a speedmaster in a plastic package like this?
Yes. The boxes, papers, accessories and all that are shipped separately. The watches are just in plastic shells and the assembly of the presentation is done by the workers at the boutique.

Some buyers actually want to be able to take the watch out of the shell themselves to they can be the first people to touch the watch after it left the factory.

[Anonymous No.18085880]

>>18085870
Oh so when you buy popular watches like a speedmaster the one on display that you first see isn't the watch you're getting? If so that's nice

[Anonymous No.18085894]

>>18085800
If anything, VC is the most underrated out of the holy trinity.
Let's use the Genta-esque models as comparison:

PP Nautilus:
>high-level external finish
>high-level movement finish
retail price: 35k

AP Royal Oak:
>high-level external finish
>LOW-level movement finish
retail price: 25k

VC Overseas:
>high-level external finish
>high-level movement finish
retail price: 27k

The Patek and VC have the same level of finish inside and outside, but the Patek costs nearly 10k more.
The AP and VC cost about the same, but the AP's movement finish is vastly inferior.

[Anonymous No.18085899]

>>18085894
>Genta-esque
That's a slightly disingenuous way to put it.
The Nautilus and Royal Oak actually were designed by Genta. The Overseas was designed by some Italian twenty years afterwards.

Price is one way to look at it, but we are talking about luxury goods. Pricing does not always make sense and you cannot deliberately ignore the prestige afforded by the Nautilus and Royal Oak that the Overseas simply cannot match.

[Anonymous No.18085902]

>>18085899
>price doesn't matter
>Nautilus and RO have more prestige
So how is VC "overrated".

[Anonymous No.18085908]

>>18085899
>The Nautilus and Royal Oak actually were designed by Genta. The Overseas was designed by some Italian twenty years afterwards.
That's exactly why people use terms like "Genta-esque", sperg

[Anonymous No.18085909]

>>18085894
No.
First, you should compare the Royal Oak and the Nautilus to the 222. The Overseas is a much later watch.
Secondly, originally all three watches had the same movement, the JLC 920.
Third, AP has designed a new movement for the Jumbo, it is an ultra-thin movement of the highest quality. But it doesn't matter, the JLC 920 is an admirable movement, one of the most important in history. I hope you learned something today.

[Anonymous No.18085911]

>>18085902
>So how is VC "overrated".
Simple. The Overseas is often mentioned in the same breath as the Nautilus and Royal Oak, but does not deserve that honor.

The Overseas should be more accurately grouped in with the other Johnny-come-lately integrated sports watches like the Piaget Polo.

[Anonymous No.18085912]

>>18085894
>>18085909
I forgot, fourth, the AP Royal Oak Jumbo is the most affordable of the three because it can be purchased in steel but the Nautilus and 222, at the moment, are only sold in precious metals.

[Anonymous No.18085913]

>>18085912
>most affordable of the three because it can be purchased
Can it? How long is the waitlist?

[Anonymous No.18085914]

>>18085909
>>18085912
The comparison is between the basic steel Genta(-esque) models of the three.
Apples to apples.

>>18085911
>Simple. The Overseas is often mentioned in the same breath as the Nautilus and Royal Oak, but does not deserve that honor
People seem to think it does. Since they often mention it in the same breath.

[Anonymous No.18085917]

ID on the watch?

[Anonymous No.18085918]

>>18085899
>That's a slightly disingenuous way to put it.
>The Nautilus and Royal Oak actually were designed by Genta. The Overseas was designed by some Italian twenty years afterwards.
>Price is one way to look at it, but we are talking about luxury goods. Pricing does not always make sense and you cannot deliberately ignore the prestige afforded by the Nautilus and Royal Oak that the Overseas simply cannot match.

This. There's only one Genta-'''esque''' watch on that list.

[Anonymous No.18085919]

>>18085731
they have a 36mm version, sweety

[Anonymous No.18085920]

>>18085914
>People seem to think it does. Since they often mention it in the same breath.
They do that out of habit since they've been conditioned to think PP = AP = VC. They're not retarded, just ignorant.
Those of us who actually understand the watch industry and its history know that the three companies cannot be compared since, especially today, they are all very different companies in nearly every way.

[Anonymous No.18085922]

>>18085918
If you want to get autistic, Genta hasn't designed any of the three current watches. Both the basic Nautilus and the RO steel models have different dimensions and proportions compared to the original designs.

>>18085920
>They do that out of habit
And on the merits of the watches.
The basic RO is nowhere near the level of the Overseas in terms of movement finishing, for instance.

Or is the name more important than the finishing?

[Anonymous No.18085925]

>>18085914
It is more appropriate to compare the Overseas with the Aquanaut and the RO Concept, watches from another era, the late 90s and early 2000s, the period to which the Overseas belongs. Anon you can do better, why do you think VC brought back 222?

[Anonymous No.18085929]

>>18085925
All three have basic steel Genta(-esque) models.
Those are the ones being compared.

[Anonymous No.18085931]

>>18085922
In another post i mentioned the JLC 920 which is a fantastic movement, on the other hand the new Royal Oak Jumbo has a new high quality movement designed by AP.
But if you despise the JLC 920, you don't know anything about watches.

[Anonymous No.18085933]

>>18085929
Yes VC 222

[Anonymous No.18085934]

>>18085931
Wrong reply quote?
Because that has nothing to do with anything.

[Anonymous No.18085937]

>>18085933
The 222 is the equivalent to AP’s jumbo, which is not AP’s basic steel Genta.
The 15510 is.

[Anonymous No.18085942]

>>18085934
>>18085937
We're talking about Royal Oak Jumbo from the beginning, you damn retarded autistic fagot, why the hell do you think I've mentioned the JLC 920 movement?

[Anonymous No.18085952]

>>18085942
>We're talking about Royal Oak Jumbo from the beginning
The comparison was always about the basic models, from the beginning.

And even if you want to use the jumbo instead, it’s 32k so you need to pay like 5k more for movement finish compared to the basic Overseas.
So again, VC is underrated.

[Anonymous No.18085954]

>another Nautilus vs RO vs Overseas debate
They all look like shit.

[Anonymous No.18085955]

>>18085925
>why do you think VC brought back 222?

I think it was to split the range in the same way that AP has the Royal Oak and the Offshore. People still have a taste for the slim, understated sports watches like the original Royal Oak, in addition to the large flashy pieces like the Offshore.

Resurrecting the 222 would allow them to have a subtle piece and let the Overseas be the larger, gaudier 90s piece it's always been.

Imagine the 222 as slim, simple, in steel and precious metals, few, if any complications; alongside the Overseas which can now be big, made of ceramic, carbon fiber and gold with a rubber strap and a double tourbillon.

[Anonymous No.18085959]

>>18085954
>another Nautilus vs RO vs Overseas debate
Of course. The guy who started the last 50 of them didn't go anywhere. It's no different than Whoretadello insisting we talk about his Grand Seiko.

[Anonymous No.18085966]

>>18085955
Well, we finally agree

[Anonymous No.18085969]

>>18085955
>to split the range in the same way that AP has the Royal Oak and the Offshore
Except in the other direction: the Offshore to the bigger side and the 222 towards the smaller side.

[Anonymous No.18085972]

>>18085954
That's the point, all of these watches are pretty and ugly at the same time.
By the way, what do you think of 222?

[Anonymous No.18085974]

>>18085955
>let the Overseas be the larger, gaudier 90s piece it's always been
It’s the same size as the 1550 dumbass

[Anonymous No.18085977]

>>18085969
>Except in the other direction: the Offshore to the bigger side and the 222 towards the smaller side.
Yes, you're right. I wasn't clear.

222: simple and classic
Overseas: fun and flashy

[Anonymous No.18085987]

>>18085972
>That's the point, all of these watches are pretty and ugly at the same time.
I get why people like them but that whole Genta aesthetic has been overdone to me. Every brand from shit tier to top tier have its own integrated bracelet sports watch now. I kinda like it when Moser does it, because they have this unique organic approach to their design, but overall I find this trend tiresome and I'm happy it's dying.
The turning point for me was that Christopher Ward / Czapek episode. The two watches were designed by the same dude and were released around the same time. One is under 2k, the other is above 20k. They're pretty much the same. Granted the finishing of the Czapek is miles ahead, but c'mon... When cheap brands are starting to copy the designs of luxury brands you know it's time to do something else.
>By the way, what do you think of 222?
I don't care for it. It's fine I guess but if I had that kind of money there's a million watches I would buy before this one.

[Anonymous No.18085988]

Morning fags

[Anonymous No.18085991]

What is a good diver watch for wristlets? Seems like the only choices are a used skx, an old omega 36mm, Christopher ward 36, Oris diver 200, or some other microbrand shit 36 to 38mm

6.25 inch wristlet

[Anonymous No.18085995]

>>18085619
SRPE61
Anons in the past have complained that it looks like a dive watch without the bezel. Which it is. I always thought dive bezels looked fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.18085996]

>>18085991
Or the black bay 54

[Anonymous No.18085997]

>>18085988
Nice watch!!!
>>18085991
Tudor Black Bay 37mm

[Anonymous No.18085999]

>>18085988
>morning
>23:52
Good morning I guess. Hope you're having a lovely day.

[Anonymous No.18086000]

>>18085995
I would say that this Seiko is a field watch, which is my favorite type of watch.

[Anonymous No.18086002]

>>18085999
Go back to your containment thread. We'll join you. We swear.

[Anonymous No.18086003]

>>18086000
Yeah, but it's obvious how they made these. Look at the SRPD55 for comparison. I just like how the versions without bezels look more.

[Anonymous No.18086008]

>>18085991
I enjoy

[Anonymous No.18086010]

>>18085999
Those are very long fingers

[Anonymous No.18086013]

>>18085999
Nice trips.
Is this bitteranon?

[Anonymous No.18086016]

NEW THREAD
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>>18086014
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[Anonymous No.18086017]

>>18086013
whoretadello. That's a tudor black bay ceramic

[Anonymous No.18086826]

>>18084749
lol.
western in an elegant fragile way?
or western in a robust superior war like way?

[Anonymous No.18086857]

any watches with a face design this with day or day-date complications?

[Anonymous No.18086898]

Because I'm drunk. Buy your grails...don't have a 'watch journey'. Just save up and buy your grails, and you'll be happiest, longest, without wasting money. Buy it for you, and no one else.

[Anonymous No.18087012]

>>18086857